1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl matchup is set and we're going to 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: party like it's twenty fifteen Seahawks Patriots. Thankfully for Seattle, 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: no Malcolm Butler this time. Our team of analysts and 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: reporters will be here tonight to break down a super 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: showdown in Santa Clara. There's a new head coach in 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and it's a homecoming for Mike McCarthy. We will 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: break down why the Steelers tab the Pittsburgh native to 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: coach the team he beat in Super Bowl forty five, 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: and what it could mean for Pittsburgh's plans at quarterback. 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: The NFL Draft now, believe it or not, just three 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: months away, which means we have officially entered mock draft season. Yes, 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza gotta come off the board pretty quickly, but 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: we'll dive deep on the rest of Daniel Jeremiah's first 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: round projection for a whole lot more. Welcome inside with 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: the insiders alongside Mike Garafalo. 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: I am Tom Pellicero. 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Here at the epicenter of the pre draft process. It 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty six Hanini Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: There were well the players actually all walked by me 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: as did a marching band out there on the street. 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: A lot of festivities around this place tomorrow, though, we've 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: got live practices right here on NFL Network. Not one, 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: not two, but three episodes of The Insiders will get 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: into all that as teams try to find well. Frankly 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: there Drake may Is. Two years ago, the Patriots drafted 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: him at number three overall. He's now going to be 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: the second youngest quarterback ever to start in a Super Bowl. 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold meanwhile in the Seahawks first remember the vaunted 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen quarterback class to start a Super Bowl. It 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: took him aways to get here, but when it mattered, 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: he stepped up on the biggest stage. Let's get into it. 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: The NFC Championship games started off in the late second quarter. 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Twenty five seconds left Darnold looking for a wide open 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jagba Bold strategy not covering JSN in 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: the end zone. That is a touchdown. Seahawks take the lead, 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen. Third corn Now, Seahawks still up seventeen thirteen. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Michael Dixon with the punt, and Xavier Smith makes a 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: meal of this one. This is like me catching pop 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: flies in like the sixth grade in baseball. So I 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: didn't play outfield a whole lot longer. Sean McVay cannot 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: believe it. That is Smith's first career fumble ensuing Seahawks drive, 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Donald once again going for who Jake Bobo with one 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: of the nastier roats you're going to see. Fourth catch 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: for Bobo all season long. Darnald pumped up Seahawks making 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: twenty four to thirteen. Next Seahawks drive after a Rams touchdown, 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Donald this time for the former Ram Cooper cup underneath. 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: We've seen him do this so many times. You know 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: that one felt good right there, Cup into the end zone. 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: Thirty one twenty Seahawks and suing Rams drive now Matthew 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Stafford stepping up and away from pressure right here looking 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: deep for Pooka Nakua, nearly picked off by Rieke Woolan. 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: What a moment for Woolan. 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Just walk off the field and go ahead and just 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: celebrate with your teammates. No, don't talk to the Rams sideline. 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: That's a taunting penalty. Would have been fourth and twelve. Well, 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: when you have a shot to say something to Dave, 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: were going, why not take it fifteen yard penalty, automatic 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: first down. Very next play, McVeigh goes, now, let's throw 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: at the guy while his head's not in the game. 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Hookinakua against Riek Wolan. This is not a fair fight. 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: In that moment, touchdown Rams. They cut it two thirty 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: one to seventeen. Rookie nick Emon warri By the way, 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: there's some leadership from the rookie right there. Get in 64 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the face of Woolen on the sideline. They calm things down. 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter now, Rams still down by four points. Matthew 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Stafford with some time on fourth and four, there's just 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: nothing doing. Tries to jam it in there. Tremendous coverage 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: by Devin Witherspoon. That's a turnover on downs. McVeigh frustrated. 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I have been there, although not in the same circumstances. 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Late fourth quarter, now ten seconds to go, last gas 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: for the Rams. 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: Stafford firing deep down the field. 73 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: They got a chance to get up and at least 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: giving themselves a chance for a hail Mary. There's Pooga 75 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: of the fifty, but he goes down in bounds, his 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: thigh hit the ground. That's the game. The clock runs out. 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: The Seahawks celebrate the Rams go home one step short. 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: As we now welcome in our Mark Ross and Jeffrey 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Chidia to the conversation. Mark, you watched this game unfold. 80 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: It was exactly as good as you might have thought 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: when you broke this down from your front office perspective. 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: What was the difference here for Seattle going on to 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: Well, besides being the most complete team, I've been saying 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: this for weeks, they're the most complete team on both 86 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: sides of the ball. You can't just talk enough about 87 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold and what he's done and the way that 88 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: he has escalated his game, the way that he has 89 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: raised the level of everybody on that team on that 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: offense and has not turned the ball over. And the 91 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: thing that was the most striking yesterday was usually those 92 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: situations where there's pressure, big third downs, that's when Sam 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: kind of faltered in the year's pass even somewhat this 94 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: year in some games. But if you look at those 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: touchdowns he threw today, he's got people. 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: In his face. 97 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: The Rams were close to him, they were in his face, 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: they were around him. So it wasn't like he was 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: sitting back in clean pockets making throws against air he 100 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: was making these plays against pressure, with people in his face, 101 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: with bodies around him, and that's been the most impressive 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: for me. It really was after that second Rams game 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: where he had the early turnovers, and then it was 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: like that second half, I unlocked something. 105 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: You know. It's like Neo and the Matrix where he 106 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: just start. 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: Feeling it all Jeff, And now that's really scary for 108 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: the Patriots going into the super Bowl because a confident 109 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Sam Donald that doesn't turn the ball over as hard 110 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: to stop that offense. 111 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: I love a Matrix reference from Mark here because I'm 112 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: old school like that too when it comes to movies. 113 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 5: But I got to tell you, I'm right with you 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: with Sam Darnald the way he played. I was happy 115 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 5: for the guy because of the way he was able 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: to slay one more demon. A lot of people when 117 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 5: he got to Seattle were thinking about what happened at 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 5: the end of his Minnesota career and how it went 119 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 5: south for him in the playoff game and when they 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 5: were trying to win the NFC North. But to me, 121 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: not just quarterback play here, Mark, but Roster building. 122 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: You're the GM here. 123 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 5: And I've had a number of gms talk to me 124 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: about just how we're entering into a new phase of 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 5: the NFL where it used to be you go find 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: your big time franchise quarterback around for ten fifteen years 127 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 5: and take all these runs. And I thought now was 128 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: about windows. It's two three four year windows and making 129 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: the most of that with a nice roster, with a 130 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 5: great roster. And so you saw the Eagles to that 131 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 5: last year with Jalen Hurts. Sam Donald is well positioned 132 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 5: to do that with this team because he's the perfect 133 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 5: fifth of what they want to have and they have a. 134 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: Great roster around him. 135 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Certainly for Sam Donald, one of the nicest guys that 136 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: you are going to meet in the NFL. A big moment, right, 137 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: There's still time for all those analysts who got on 138 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: social media back in March and said huge mistake trading 139 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Gino Smith to sign Sam Donald. You can go back, 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: you can delete that. That's the thing that you can 141 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: do on social media. Worked out pretty well for Seattle 142 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: and their GM at John Schnyder. Mean, while on the 143 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: other side, there was a lot of drama at this 144 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: time of year ago about Matthew Stafford in his future. 145 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: All he did was go out and if he doesn't 146 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: win the MVP at minimum played MVP caliber football. So 147 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: it struck Sean McVay as perhaps a little off when 148 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: someone asked if he expects Stafford to be back next season. 149 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: Don do you. 150 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 6: Expect Matthew Stafford to be back next season? 151 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's I mean, if he still wants 152 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 7: to play. The whole kind of question is that. Yeah, 153 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 7: you have to ask him, and we've been totally present. 154 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 7: I know that if he wants to, he's still playing 155 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 7: at a PREVIM good clip. 156 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 6: I mean, he's the MVP of the league. And if 157 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 6: he's not, you know that. I got respect for everybody. 158 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 7: Else, but this guy played at a level it's just different. 159 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys. 160 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: And ship thank you, all right, Sean McVay certainly not 161 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: wanting to hear that Jeffrey moments after his season end. 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: It's never did not play like his age through the 163 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: course this season. Fair though, anytime that the guy gets 164 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: at this stage to wonder how much longer does he 165 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: want to do it? What say you about the possibility 166 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: if any of Matthew Stafford saying this is the time 167 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: to walk away, Well, it's. 168 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: Going to be thirty eight in February, so that's a 169 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: factor here, and he had some back problem at the 170 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 5: start of the year, but the way he played this season, 171 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: it's hard for me to think he's going to walk away. 172 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: He had a chance to win his first MVP, He's 173 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 5: won a championship with Sean mcfay. He loves being with 174 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: this franchise. They're still going to have a lot of 175 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: the key pieces there for next year, a lot of 176 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: these young players around him. I just feel like, yeah, 177 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: it's I don't see him walking away when he's that close. 178 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: This team was a fourth down away from winning this game. 179 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 5: He has some tough grades with one for right on 180 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 5: third downs, but as Big Big said, the way he's playing, Mark, 181 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 5: you just cannot walk away from that. 182 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: When you're that talent of a player. 183 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: One percent agree. You know, a player two away from 184 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: being in the super Bowl, you know, possibly win it 185 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: if they get in. And usually with older quarterbacks, they're 186 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: just hanging on. I'm not going to mention Anna Aaron Rodgers, 187 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: but older quarterbacks, whenever they get aged, they just want 188 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: to get the ball out of their hand as quick 189 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: as possible. 190 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: They don't like pressure. 191 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: They can't move around as much and the Matthew Stafford 192 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: I saw this year is almost a spry Matthew Stafford, 193 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: where yesterday he even saw plays where he's moving around. 194 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: Pressure doesn't bother him. 195 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: He looks like a prime or even better Matthew Stafford, 196 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: not showing those signs of which you usually see in 197 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: older quarterbacks. So I would fully expect that he looks 198 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: at the table, he looks at the film. 199 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I still got it. 200 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: I'm playing at an MVP level which he should win, 201 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: and let's run this thing back if if my body holds. 202 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Up for me there, Tom only fitting that in the 203 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: year of the NFC West was clearly the best division 204 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: in football, that the Seahawks had to go through the 205 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and the Rams both for a third 206 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: time to get into the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, Mike over 207 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: on the AFC side, we had a familiar matchup with 208 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: an interesting end. 209 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 4: We did. 210 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 6: Tom. This was the AFC Championship Game one eleven years ago. 211 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 6: I believe it was ten years ago. 212 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 8: Jared Stidham zero passed the steps in two seasons. Bo 213 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 8: Nicks out for the postseason with that broken ankle looking 214 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 8: like a three to four month recovery so Drake May saying, 215 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 8: all right, what are we gonna do to win this 216 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 8: football game? 217 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 6: Well, jareded Stidham gets. 218 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 8: The ball and the confidence from Sean Payton on fourth 219 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 8: and one, when a field goal would have made it 220 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 8: a two score game incomplete, Peyton saying after the game 221 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 8: felt like this was the chance to really put the 222 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 8: dagger in again. That three points going to prove to 223 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 8: be costly. Next Broncos drive up seven to nothing, third 224 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 8: and four from the thirty three. Stidham tries to put 225 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 8: the ball away and it's on the ground. Elijah Ponder 226 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 8: scoops it up into the end zone for what he 227 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 8: thinks of the touchdown, but they have blown the whistle. However, 228 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 8: upon further review, it is ruled that it was a 229 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 8: backwards pass. I love that Seahawks rams game from late 230 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 8: in the season. So it's a fumble, no touchdown, but 231 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 8: it is New England ball at the twelve. A couple 232 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,359 Speaker 8: of plays later, second and four from the six, Drake 233 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 8: May called his own number six yard touchdown. Patriots tie 234 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 8: the game at seven to seven. Again, it would have 235 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 8: been ten to seven with that field goal late in 236 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 8: the fourth quarter. A much different weather scenario At this point, 237 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 8: there's the snow that had come in. Bronco was down 238 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 8: ten to seven at the time. Will Latt's lining up 239 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 8: for a forty six yard field goal with the wind. 240 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 6: The kick is no good, wide lifts. 241 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 8: Four missfield goals in the game between the two teams, most. 242 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 6: Ever in an AFC Championship game. Take it out of 243 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: the look kick blocked. 244 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 8: Leonard Taylor, the third call up from the practice squad 245 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 8: last night, gets his hand on. 246 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 6: The night before excuse me, alters the King. Broncos have 247 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 6: it back. 248 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 8: After a Patriots three and up Stidham from Marvin Mems 249 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 8: intercepted by Christian Gonzalez. 250 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 6: Stidham with a touchdown. 251 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 8: And that interception on the daily enter in thirty thirty 252 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 8: three yards passing now one fifty seven left. 253 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 6: Broncos need to stop. Drake May on the caper. 254 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 8: Gets to the first down line after that foot race 255 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 8: with Jonah Ellis. The Patriots are going back to the 256 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 8: Super Bowl, and so is Cardi b with our Camon 257 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 8: Wolf party. 258 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: We just talked to Staff and he was super emotional. 259 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 9: About the journey to get back to that, to watch 260 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 9: him achieve this. 261 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 10: What are you feeling, I'm feeling very excited, very happy 262 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 10: for him, very proud of him. You know, he just 263 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 10: came back from my acl and me seeing the progress 264 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 10: and the process of him going through the air for 265 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 10: the first time he started running back, and now joining 266 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 10: the Patriots and then actually going to the Super Bowl. 267 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 10: I'm just very excited for him, very excited for the 268 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 10: whole team. Didn't working date. 269 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: You see, you've seen a lot of the hard moments. 270 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 9: Can you maybe painting a picture of what that's been 271 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 9: like to get back for him? 272 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 10: Discipline, discipline and work. It's not like, oh, you wake 273 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 10: up and you're great. Is disciplined? Is going to bed early, 274 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 10: is going waking up early? Is not missing one day 275 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 10: of work? 276 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: Nothing. 277 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 10: It's disciplined, simple, hard discipline. 278 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 9: And last one for me, I know, he talked about 279 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 9: getting you into football. 280 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: He said, you are really a football girly before. 281 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 9: But now you're joining the brigade and the Patriots are 282 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 9: going to Super Bowl. 283 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, not a bad start as a football fan, not 284 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: at all. 285 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 10: I mean, I'm a big baseball fan. You know, I'm 286 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 10: a res Sox fan. Everyone knows I'm a rest Sox fan. 287 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 10: So it's kind of cool that we keep an it 288 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 10: s yeah, and Nicole, not too bad for you for 289 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 10: New York. 290 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Carter, enjoy it. 291 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 6: Big baseball fan Cardi B. Campwolf was a machine. 292 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 8: The number of one on one interviews he was getting 293 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 8: down on the field post game, including Cardi B. He's 294 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 8: now joining us, Steve Wiss, Welcome. 295 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 6: You were obviously there. 296 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 8: You saw the game, you covered the game leading up 297 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 8: to it, the Patriots defensive line and how they were 298 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 8: able to dominate such a big part of this game. 299 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 9: First of all, forever moment for me, I thought, hello, 300 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 9: it's me, you know am I. The drama is what 301 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 9: I was thinking throughout that Cardi B. 302 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: Interview. 303 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 9: You know, I will say this, the Patriots defense is 304 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 9: well beyond the fact of needing their respect. And I'll 305 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 9: forever remember moment in postgame right before I talked to 306 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 9: Milton Williams. 307 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: He is literally shaky. 308 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 9: He can't wait to express all that he's had pent up. 309 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 9: He said, what are they going to say now? What 310 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 9: are they going to talk about now? He said, All 311 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 9: throughout the playoffs it was about the other defense, the Chargers, Texans, 312 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 9: the Broncos. This week we heard about a number one 313 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 9: offensive line. He said, I bet this week they're going 314 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 9: to talk about we played a backup quarterback. They will 315 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 9: not give us our respect until we win the Super Bowl, 316 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 9: and then they're going to have to. And so I 317 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 9: want to give the Patriots their respect because they deserve it. 318 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 9: The last eight drives of the game, the Broncos had 319 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 9: they had fifty six yards, they probably could have had 320 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 9: another eight drives and they might not have scored another point. 321 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 9: They were dominant, dominant, dominant. And it starts up front 322 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 9: with those two defensive tackles, Milton Williams Christian bar where 323 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 9: Williams had eight pressures, Barmore had a sack and had 324 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 9: a big day against a all Pro guard. And those 325 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 9: guys make that engine go. They are the engine that 326 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 9: the Seahawks are going to have to deal with in 327 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 9: the Super Bowl. You go a step back. Is Christian 328 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 9: Ellis the linebacker there, and I talked to him after 329 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 9: the game. 330 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 6: He said, I will die for these dudes in this 331 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 6: locker room. 332 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 9: I've never set that for anyone else team wise that 333 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 9: I've had to play. And then Christian Gonzalez another name 334 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 9: you need to watch. I talked to him before the 335 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 9: game about his relationship with ty Law. Ty Law told 336 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 9: him there's going to be two or three plays in 337 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 9: a game where you have to make the play, and 338 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 9: he makes the game changing interception. People may not know 339 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 9: the Patriots defense yet, but you better know them the 340 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 9: next two weeks because they are the reason the Patriots 341 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 9: are headed into the Super Bowl. 342 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 8: Take cam single, shout again, how do you already have 343 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 8: these pictures up there? And they're so crystal clear they 344 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 8: look like they're almost on our end? 345 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 6: See are they real pictures? How are they so clear? 346 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: So they are real pictures? Shout out to Anthony Biassi. 347 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 9: My producer. Took them in the five degree snowy weather. 348 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 9: I went to Walgreens. Just got back four thirty pm. 349 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 9: Went to Walgreens, printed them out and they're back there. 350 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 9: So I wanted to get you guys. Take you guys 351 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 9: into Denver and I'll put it right behind me. 352 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 8: We all got to get Biazzi's cameras camera phone. 353 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 6: That is unbelievably clear. 354 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 8: Good job, play, good hustle having them ready to. 355 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 6: Go for today's show. 356 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 8: Steve Weisch, what will the Broncos be thinking about all 357 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 8: off season? 358 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: And I did a rant on Good Morning Football. 359 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 8: A couple of weeks ago where it's like not enough 360 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 8: coaches are taking the. 361 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: Points, the three points that are right in front of them. 362 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 6: I'd imagine that's gonna be some of what they're thinking 363 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: about all off season. 364 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 11: First of Mike, you and I are not dripping with 365 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 11: finesse like Cam is with the card to B stuff 366 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 11: going on. 367 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: But look the Broncos going. 368 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 11: Back on this, say, there's a couple plays where if 369 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 11: we would have just played it safe, it could have 370 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 11: been us going to the super Bowl instead of the 371 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 11: New England pages. First off, let's start with Jared Stidham, 372 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 11: and you saw the strip sack fumble, but before he 373 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 11: even got Elvis got looking off our back, he drops. 374 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 11: How do you just take and knee relied on that 375 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 11: great defense, this turnover likely wouldn't happen. Now, let's go 376 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 11: to the other thing, playing it safe. Fourth down, they 377 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 11: drive down the field, but instead of kicking the field goal, 378 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 11: they run this play. And on that drive, Mike, they 379 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 11: were running the ball very well. To run that play, 380 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 11: to not execute it absolutely something that Sean Payton, head. 381 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: Coach in the second guess himself about. 382 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 11: But the determining factor, though, is coming out of halftime 383 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 11: the New England Patriots doing a sixteen play drive that 384 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 11: ended with the game deciding field goal. Two big third 385 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 11: down conversions won a twenty eight yard run by Drake 386 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 11: may Mike that took nine and a half minutes off 387 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 11: the clock, but in real time it was more than 388 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 11: thirty minutes. 389 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: When Jared said, you got. 390 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 11: A backup quarterbacks trying to get going has to sit 391 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 11: for more than thirty minutes of real time. That is 392 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 11: tough for the offense to come back and get into 393 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 11: a rhythm. And once the weather came back into play, 394 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 11: that was an issue. And speaking of weather, Will Lutz, 395 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 11: we showed the deflected block field goal. They're right here 396 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 11: the blockfield goal Lut set after the game. Because of 397 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 11: the snow, they might have actually been a yard short 398 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 11: in the spot of the kick, which may not have 399 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 11: given him the full distance to get the height to 400 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 11: get the ball through leading to the deflection. Now Lutz 401 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 11: came back on social media today, so look, that was 402 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 11: on me. We spotted the ball properly. I don't want 403 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 11: to put the blame on anybody else, but again that 404 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 11: is something that could have come into place. So again, 405 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 11: to some minor factors, football is a game of inches, 406 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 11: and that's something that hurt Denver in a game where 407 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 11: the conditions were far more significant than they looked on television. 408 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe if Sean Payton had known how bad it 409 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 8: would get late in the game, that he may have 410 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 8: taken that field goal earlier in the game. But easier 411 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 8: easier for us to say twenty twenty hindsight Cam Wolf 412 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 8: Steve Weisch get comfortable because you're hanging around. You're coming 413 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 8: back later in this program. 414 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy hired as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, 415 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: his third head coaching opportunity coming with his hometown team. 416 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: A celebration in Pittsburgh, unless you're getting your information from 417 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: local sports talk radio. 418 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 12: One of the worst days in Pittsburgh Steeler's history. I 419 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 12: totally agree with you. You have to give this a grade 420 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 12: of an F. For this reason, we have the opportunity 421 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 12: for change. It was a big deal to get rid 422 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 12: of Iron Mike after his success here, and so I 423 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 12: think everybody was super excited about the fact that change 424 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 12: was coming. 425 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 13: I hope we're all prepared to continue to trend to 426 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 13: mediocrity for the next five years minimum. I have a 427 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 13: PSA and a message for Steeler Nation what we need 428 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 13: to do on Draft night with We need to let 429 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 13: Art Nunning. 430 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 12: The second know exactly how we feel. 431 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 13: Sell the team, chance, sell the team shirts, sell the 432 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 13: team everything, because we need to see it on a 433 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 13: national scale. 434 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 6: How sickened we are by this hire. 435 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: You want to hear what a spoiled brat sounds like. 436 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Just keep tuning in to calls like that. I've got 437 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: plenty of thoughts, okay on the reaction to the Mike 438 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy hierber Mark first, a warant. 439 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: Tom I got some of my closest friends in Pittsburgh. 440 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: I'll have them call you instead of them blowing up 441 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: my phone about. 442 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 4: There to being distraught about this hire. 443 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: So so look, hey, look in a vacuum. I think 444 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy probably would have been better fit for like 445 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: an organization like Tennessee that needed an established coach that 446 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: has won. But I think the Pittsburgh fans it's just 447 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: I think it's more of the same. Some fantastic memes 448 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: going around on the internet comparing McCarthy to Mike Tomlin. 449 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: But look, you can't argue with what he has done, 450 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: and he has had a success, but can he take 451 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: the organization to another level or is this just more 452 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: treading water. 453 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: And it's almost what we've seen from. 454 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh over the last what ten years or so, of 455 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: that being stuck in the middle. And you know, with 456 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: the success of the Mike McDonald's there in the Super Bowl, 457 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: the Liam Cohens, the Demico Ryans, the Ben Johnson's who 458 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: have instantly come in bringing that young, fresh perspective, I 459 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: think that's what most Pittsburgh fans really wanted, something different 460 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 3: and not to just be stuck there in the middle. 461 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: So definitely understand the frustration there and it's just good coach, 462 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: but can he take them to the next level. 463 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 8: He's won a lot of games, Mark, I mean, he's 464 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 8: won a lot of games in the regular season and 465 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 8: making the playoffs and getting yourself in what football people 466 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 8: like to call the tournament. 467 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 6: It's not a bad thing. 468 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 8: And Mike McCarthy coming in and maybe it's not the 469 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 8: boom of you could hire your fourth coach since as 470 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 8: Tom has been quick to put it out the moon 471 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 8: landing and have that guy there for twenty years or 472 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 8: fifteen years or whatever you want to talk about. You know, 473 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy's probably not going to be there for fifteen years. 474 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 8: But to me, of all the coaches that are on 475 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 8: the market, this is the one I'm maybe most confident 476 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 8: is going to come in and win games and get 477 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 8: you in the playoffs and get you to do that. 478 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 8: There are other issues besides head coaching. This team needs 479 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 8: to figure out at some point when they're going to 480 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 8: find themselves a franchise quarterback, and it's hard to do 481 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 8: that when you've won as many games as Mike Tomlin. 482 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: I haven't been eyeing up in the draft order. 483 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 8: It's time to get creative in Pittsburgh and figure out 484 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 8: a way to give Mike McCarthy a franchise quarterback in 485 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 8: the way that he's had in the two previous stops 486 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 8: as well. Could be Aaron Rodgers potentially at least for 487 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 8: one more year here as they start to figure that out. 488 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 6: But they've got to find a way. 489 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 8: To get aggressive and find themselves a franchise quarterback for 490 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy. 491 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 3: To coach, Mike, you're one hundred percent right. That has 492 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: been the problem the aging Big Ben. They never really 493 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: properly addressed it and didn't identify the quarterback situation when 494 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: they had a chance either because you want to hold 495 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: on a big ben too long. Lamar Jackson was a 496 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: thirty second pick in that first round. Jalen Hurts the 497 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: second round pick. So they did have a chances to 498 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: not just take a quarterback that didn't go in the 499 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: top five or top ten. But they just didn't fail. 500 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: They just failed to have addressed that. And you know, really, 501 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: this shows the power of relationships. Why he's there. Of course, 502 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: the GM there, Omar Kahn assistant GM Andy Widel, and 503 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy worked together in the Saints. 504 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: Back in the day. 505 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: And just like I talked about with the Miami his 506 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: with a two Green Bay person people and the head coach. 507 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: This to me seems like that as well shows you 508 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: the power of relationships. Always keep those release relationships in tech. 509 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say to the people calling into 510 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh talk radio, to the Steelers fans watching this right 511 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: now and getting deep. Yeah, give me the single, Come 512 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: in real close here. I want to tell you something. 513 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: You you're asking every word I hear there is you 514 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: want something different? This is more of the same. Why 515 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: don't we do something different? This is different? You have 516 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: consistently hired for fifty plus years the young, rising defensive coach, 517 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: and it's worked out very well for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 518 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: What the league is telling you right now, with all 519 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: the hires you're seeing from John Harbaugh to the Giants, 520 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski to the Falcons, Robert solid to the Titans, 521 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: is that that young, up and coming group has been 522 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: picked over for so many years that those candidates right 523 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: now are not available. 524 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: So what do you do? 525 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: This is not more of the same in Pittsburgh. For 526 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: the first time in all those years since the moon landing, 527 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: since the Beatles broke up, whatever metric you want to indicate, 528 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, they've hired an offensive minded head coach. 529 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: You know how many consecutive years it's been that the 530 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Steelers have been one of the least effective offenses in 531 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. Eight years in a row they have ranked 532 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: twenty third or worse in yards per game, a. 533 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: Single metric, how much are moving in the football? 534 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: They're in the. 535 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Bottom third eight years in a row. Mike McCarthy's been 536 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: a head coach for eighteen years in the NFL. He's 537 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: in a top five scoring offense ten times. Over half 538 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: the time. They've been number one five times, including two 539 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: years when he was in Dallas and made Dak better, 540 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: when he made Aaron Rodgers better in Green Bay and 541 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: won four NFL MVPs from a guy who's just coming 542 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: to the league. 543 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: And edd and started. 544 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: Brett Favre was practically done in his second year with 545 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, he's the runner up. 546 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: For the MVP. They go to the NFC Championship game. 547 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: You go back to rich Gannon in the nineties. 548 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Everywhere mcmike McCarthy has been, he has elevated the level 549 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: of the offense. He has elevated the level of the 550 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: quarterback play. Whether this is Will Howard, Bason Rudolph, Is 551 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: there another quarterback coming in or maybe one more run 552 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. The track record here is not mediocrity, 553 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: to steal the word for Pittsburgh Talk Radio. The track 554 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: record here is you're competing every year. Mike McCarthy has 555 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: more playoff wins than any active coach except Andy Reid 556 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: and John Harbaugh. And if you blind resume McCarthy, Sean Payton, 557 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: John Harbaught and Mike Tomlin. 558 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: They're extremely similar. All I'm saying, I'm not saying. 559 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 6: He gotta love the hire. 560 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: I understand it. 561 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: You want the long term answer as your head coach, 562 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: but give it time and trust that are Earnie the 563 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: Second and Omar Kahn, who went through this process and 564 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: interviewed some of those young coaches, interviewed the defensive coaches, 565 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: came to the conclusion for a reason, you will actually 566 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: see the Steelers scoring points this season for the first 567 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: time since. 568 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown was running routes. 569 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: Let's see how it works out, and then we'll find 570 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: a way for you to call into this show. If 571 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm completely wrong with this, this entire thing ends up 572 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: face planning here, all right. A lot more to talk 573 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: about here as we roll on in this show, and 574 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate the producers really staying on that 575 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: single for you know, as long as as long as 576 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: we possibly could. We still have other head coaching vacancies 577 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: across the NFL right now. There's four of them, the Bills, Browns, Cardinals, 578 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: and Raiders still looking for their head coach. Mike and 579 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: in the case of the Cleveland Browns, they have been 580 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: looking and looking and looking some more. 581 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 8: Philip Rivers has withdrawn from that coaching search. It sounds 582 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 8: like he enjoyed the process and that he interviewed. 583 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 6: Well, it's just not. 584 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 8: The right timing for him and his family right now, 585 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 8: so rivers withdrawals. He did gain some head coaching interview experience, 586 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 8: and I do expect him to be on the radar 587 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 8: for NFL head coaching jobs in years to come. In 588 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 8: the meantime, the Bills interviewed Davis Webb of the Broncos 589 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 8: as well as Nate Sheelhouse this evening of the Rams. 590 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 6: Who's house not the Rams House? Sealhouse? 591 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Tom, that was coming. I've been waiting for the Rams. 592 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: She loves joke the entire week. A lot of these 593 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: same names in the four remaining searches. Davis web also 594 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: interviewing tonight with the Las Vegas Raiders, who spent time 595 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: earlier today with Bill zovinsive coordinator Joe Brady. Meanwhile, the 596 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals interviewed Anthony Weaver on Sunday, into today, tonight, 597 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: and into tomorrow. They also are speaking with Rams offensive 598 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Lafleur about that job. We will be with 599 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: you all week long as things continue to develop on 600 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: the coaching front. We'll be with you all night long, 601 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: right here on the Insiders to talk about the matchup 602 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl sixty Seahawks Patriots. 603 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: We'll go deep on it next on the Insiders. 604 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 6: All right, super Bowl, I see now I'm looking. 605 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 8: I'm gonna be looking at all these graphics for hints 606 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 8: about who's going to win the Super Bowl based on 607 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 8: that preseason one that had Drake May and Sam Darnold 608 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 8: out in front of all the other quarterbacks and players. 609 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 8: But here you go super Bowl sixty in the May 610 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 8: area where Super Bowl fifty was played. 611 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 6: Seahawks Patriots. We're gonna be talking about this for the 612 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: better part of two weeks. 613 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 8: But Jeffrey Jenia says, I'm going to get right to 614 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 8: the points, all five of them. The five biggest factors 615 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 8: that will determine super Bowl sixty. You can find it 616 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 8: at NFL dot com slash first read. Let's start with 617 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 8: a big one. Let's start with Sam Dartle. 618 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, an obvious one, because can he saved the best 619 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 5: for last. He had a great game and the Nantcy 620 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 5: Championship game win, and you saw him slay some demons. 621 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: I said earlier, but he's been a gay manager for 622 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: most of the second half of the season, and playing conservatively, 623 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 5: letting that defense take over. I want to see if 624 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: he's going to come in against his Patriots defense, which 625 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: you know with Mike Rabel is going to be ready 626 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 5: for him, is going to come after him and try 627 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 5: to make life hard for him. He's going to be 628 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: able to do what he did this past Sunday and 629 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: win a championship. And secondly, the other side of the coin, 630 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 5: looking at Drake May, is he going to return to 631 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: regular season four because we haven't seen that this entire postseason. 632 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 5: This is the guy who led the league a completion 633 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 5: percentage led the league and passer ready and he's at 634 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: fifty five percent. He's got fifteen sacks, he's got five turnovers. 635 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: They're winning in spite of him. He's done some great 636 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 5: things with his legs. He's made some plays, but he's 637 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: had to make them. But he's going against the best 638 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 5: scoring defense in the league. He's going to have to 639 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: make played with his arm to beat the Seattle Seahawks. 640 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: And then finally Kena Newland Patriots contained. 641 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigma. 642 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: He's been the best receiver in the league all season, 643 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: led the league at receiving yards, blew up against the 644 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 5: Rams once again with ten catches, one hundred and fifty 645 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 5: three yards and a touchdown. He is impossible to stop 646 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 5: when he gets going. I love the matchup with Christian 647 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: Gonzalez taking him on. Carlton Davis third has been a 648 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: good quarterback for the Patriots. This will be a great 649 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: matchup to see if you can handle him. 650 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 8: About the coaching matchup here, you've got Mike Rabel, who 651 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 8: has Super Bowl experience as a player, but not as 652 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 8: a head coach here and you've got Mike McDonald on 653 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 8: the other side. 654 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 6: How do you break this one down? 655 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 5: I love him both and it's hard to find an 656 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: heads here because there are a lot they're the same 657 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: guy in a lot of ways. The way our teams 658 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: play their physical detail oriented. Both teams play like they 659 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: have the answers to all the tests they take, and 660 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: so you know that they're going to have something stored away, 661 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: a little rinkle, a little detail, a little play they've. 662 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: Been storing up for this moment. 663 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: But I love this matchup because as much as we 664 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: talk about quarterbacks, this is about the coaches. Then finally, 665 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: the next factor I want to a touch on is Rashishi. 666 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: One of the best trade deals of the deadline. He's 667 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 5: been a big play machine for this team, special teams players, 668 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 5: kick returns, he had the huge catchers against the Rams. 669 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: It's hard to think he's not going to be a 670 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: big factor in this game. 671 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: It's going to be a close game. He could be 672 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: the difference. 673 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about it the trade deadline. 674 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 8: We said the Seahawks that was a position of strength 675 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 8: for them, and they said, we're going to move to 676 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 8: make it stronger. We're going to add another dimension there, 677 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 8: and also a dimension added to the return game as well. 678 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 8: One of the best in season trades that we have 679 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 8: seen in recent NFL memory, and basically a reason for 680 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 8: teams to be aggressive at the trade deadline again next year. 681 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: So tune in for that. 682 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 8: But in the meantime, you know we're going to play 683 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl, So check out NFL dot com Slash 684 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 8: first Read. We're all of Jeffrey's insight on the game 685 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 8: that you will overadalyze over the next couple of weeks. 686 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Tom Pilisero here at the twenty twenty six Panini Senior Bowl, 687 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: joined now by Cam Wolf, who was at that game 688 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: as well as their front office analyst Mark Ross. Cam 689 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: there was snow, there were conditions, There were a lot 690 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: of different challenges in that game, but so not the 691 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: performance the Patriots wanted to have offensively. How do they 692 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: get this thing back on track knowing that they might 693 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: have to match fire with fire against Seattle. 694 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 9: Tom One of the coolest nuggets I learned postgame was 695 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 9: that last play the Patriots had third and five, the 696 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 9: key play two minutes left, Drake May takes the naked 697 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 9: boot leg. That was a dummy call in the huddle. 698 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 9: They were going to hand the ball off. They told 699 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 9: the huddle to the running back. Drake May takes it 700 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 9: himself with his legs, gets the first down, clinches the game. 701 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 9: And it's those simple plays, those plays what Mays legs 702 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 9: that took the Patriots over That is not going to 703 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 9: be enough against the Seahawks. He was banged in, bruised 704 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 9: running the ball throughout the game, but they're going to 705 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 9: need his arm. They made a decision at halftime, with 706 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 9: the weather conditions getting the way they were, they were 707 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 9: going to protect the ball and protect their quarterback. The 708 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 9: one thing they really have to figure out, how do 709 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 9: we protect Drake May. He's been sacked fifteen times in 710 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 9: three playoff games, five times each. They were doing kind 711 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 9: of this unique cup blocking thing with Will Campbell all 712 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 9: game because he was struggling with Nick Benito. They have 713 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 9: a tough challenge with Biron Murphy, Leonard Williams, DeMarcus Lawrence 714 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 9: in this front. They've got to find ways to protect 715 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 9: their quarterback to get that pass game going. That's something 716 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 9: they're already getting to work on. They did enough against Denver. 717 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 9: But Drake May is the most important player in the 718 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 9: Super Bowl because he has to get that regular season 719 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 9: mode back for this Patriots offense to win the Super Bowl. 720 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: Just like everyone predicted back in September, We've got a 721 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Drake May's Super Bowl mark. 722 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: Who's got the ende of this Well. 723 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: It's got to be the Seahawks and been saying it 724 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: for the while, just because the overall talent where they 725 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: have not just good players, they have absolute playmakers in 726 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: just about every position group on the field on both 727 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: sides of the ball and special teams. And that's what 728 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: makes them so scary is that most of the season 729 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: you could rely on some games where the defense goes 730 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: and shut teams, shuts teams down, or hey, they just 731 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: go score points and put the offensive position to go 732 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: score points and then the offensive side of the ball. 733 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: It was really the explosive plays that got them through 734 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: the downfield, explosive plays from donald to JSN. Well, now 735 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 3: you bring this guy in here, Rashid Shihed and I 736 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: always thought the Sleeping Giant was the run game with 737 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker really not breaking out. Well, now Kenneth Walker 738 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: is finding his groove over the last four games or so, 739 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: which makes that offense even more balanced and scary, because 740 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: now Seattle can either beat you methodic league with this 741 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: guy right here or with the explosive plays, or a 742 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: little bit of both. 743 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: So that's what makes them so good. 744 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: Is that they have playmakers everywhere and are well coached team. 745 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: So don't turn the ball over, Sam Donalds. Could be 746 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: a nice victory in Seattle. Redeem those demons from these 747 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: highlights you'll see of Malcolm Butler all two weeks. 748 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: Can we run highlight one more time? Talk about it? 749 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just kidding. We'll get to that other time. 750 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl sixty thirteen days away, cam Mark, Thank you 751 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: both very much. This is how the Patriots sealed their 752 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: spot in Super Bowl sixty in a second half where 753 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the footing was awfully rough, the snow was coming down, 754 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: the lines on the field were fake, Drake May this 755 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: is like running across a patch of ice right there. 756 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: Sean Payton had a lot to think about a couple 757 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: of things. 758 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: Obviously, man disappointment. 759 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 14: You know, you hurt for every one of those players 760 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 14: in that locker room. You don't know that it's going 761 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 14: to be like this three point game, but it became 762 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 14: apparent that with each possession a field goal, that type 763 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 14: of thing was going to be real important. 764 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: Sean, you mentioned the field goal. 765 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: What was the decision making on the fourth and one 766 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: early in the second quarter to go for it? 767 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 14: Yeah, just like, man, we had momentum to get up 768 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 14: fourteen and felt like we had a good call and 769 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 14: where we at yard line wise there? Yeah, ron point, Yeah, 770 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 14: I think I think the feeling was, man, let's let's 771 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 14: be aggressive. 772 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the insiders, Tom Pilisero, Mike Girafolo, joined 773 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: once again by our Steve White. Steve will never know 774 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: what the AFC Championship game might have looked like if 775 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: they had their quarterback in bow knicks. But from a 776 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: bigger picture, perspective. If there's a hump the Denver needs 777 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: to get over in twenty twenty six, how do they 778 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: do it? 779 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 11: Well, a couple things, Mike, I mean, Boonix has to 780 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 11: come back. 781 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: And continue to improve. 782 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 11: I'm the high wire act of them winning games late 783 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 11: week after a week. That's a dangerous road to travel, 784 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 11: especially with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs likely to retool 785 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 11: and be back and play as a playoff contender. So 786 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 11: that's one thing Bonnicks again, continue to improve. Maybe he 787 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 11: sits down with Drew Brees in the offseason it gets 788 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 11: more or the idiosyncrasies of this offense down together. 789 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: But they also have to give him some weapons. 790 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 11: They've got to give him a secondary receiver besides Courtland Sutton, 791 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 11: and that might come in the form of a tight end. 792 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 4: You know, the Evan Ingram acquisition. 793 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 11: We thought before the season was going to give him, Hey, 794 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 11: this is his Jimmy Graham that Drew Brees had down 795 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 11: in New Orleans, but that didn't quite materialize. But they 796 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 11: do have to give another receiving option, if not a 797 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 11: second one, maybe at a little depth in the backfield. 798 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 11: JK Dobbins, his contract is going to be expiring. They've 799 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 11: also got a fortify their offensive and defensive material lines 800 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 11: with depth and potential starters. Jonathan Franklin Meyers defensive tackle, he's, 801 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 11: you know, a good player. His contract is up. Both 802 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 11: inside linebackers contracts are up, so fortify there, but not 803 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 11: a lot to retool on the roster. They just got 804 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 11: to understand they're going to be, even though they were 805 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 11: the number one seed, gonna be a lot more of 806 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 11: the hunted next season. 807 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 4: Week to week. 808 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 8: They've got to figure out a way to be what 809 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 8: Sean Payton's Saints teams were over the years. You look 810 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 8: at the rankings for his. 811 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 6: Teams right now. 812 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 8: The Broncos tenth in offense this season actually climbed up. 813 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 6: They were middle of the pack for much of the season. 814 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 8: Just really not explosive in the way that Peyton and 815 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 8: Breeze had those Saints teams humming, where they were number 816 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 8: one for a number of years, top five basically a 817 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 8: year in a year out, definitely top ten consistently for 818 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 8: like fifteen sixteen seasons in a row. 819 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 6: We just haven't seen that with the Broncos. 820 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 8: And look, the defense has been tremendous and I'm sure 821 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 8: they played a lot of these games into well, we 822 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 8: know what our defense is going to be, so we 823 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 8: don't have to necessarily be that explosive and maybe make 824 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 8: some decisions along the way to play that way. We've 825 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 8: seen it in spurts and they were explosive for some 826 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 8: fourth quarter. 827 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 6: Go back to that game that. 828 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 8: They won against the Giants where they had that comeback, 829 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 8: and need to see that more consistently from the Broncos. 830 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 6: In twenty six, the. 831 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: Draft starts in Mobile, Alabama. Set of the twenty twenty 832 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: six Panini Senior Bowl. Full coverage starting tomorrow right here 833 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Daniel Jeremiah's going a new mock draft out. 834 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: We'll invil it right after this of the insiders Daniels 835 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: Heeremiah unleashed is mock Draft one point zero today, Fernando 836 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: Mendoza up there at the top, rvel reset number two, 837 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: and then a bunch of guys that I will be 838 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: learning right here with you over the next three months 839 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: leading up to the NFL Draft. Pre draft process continues 840 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: at the Combine. You can catch live coverage right here 841 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: on NFL Network starting on February twenty six. Quarterbacks, the 842 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: much anticipated throwing session one pm Easter time on February 843 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: twenty eighth. Meanwhile, East West Shrine Bowl is this week 844 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: the game Tuesday Night. 845 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: Here's Mike Yam. 846 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 15: Guys, when it comes down to the East West Shrine Bowl, 847 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 15: there's some names that certainly have been popping for us. 848 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 15: But take me through this process. How important is for 849 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 15: these guys to ball out? 850 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 6: Well? 851 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 4: It is huge. I mean you talk about the ability 852 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 4: to work. 853 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 16: With some of these NFL coaches throughout the week, be 854 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 16: able to sit in the meeting rooms, adapt to what 855 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 16: their schemes are and then take it to the game 856 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 16: right and go out there and do your best, put 857 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 16: your best foot forward so that all the thirty two 858 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 16: teams have opportunity to see what you're up. 859 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: Kabo off as. 860 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 17: Your final job interview in pass. So this is what 861 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 17: it means. Can you show up and show out? That's 862 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 17: what everyon wants to see when you come these games. 863 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, and there's a lot of accomplished players who've done 864 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 15: a whole lot on Saturdays trying to make a name 865 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 15: for themselves on Sundays. 866 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 6: Who's the quarterback that stood out to you? Haines King. 867 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 17: Hayes came from Georgia Tech, scored over one hundred touchdowns 868 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 17: during his tenure in the collegiate game. And he's a 869 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 17: duel three at playmaker who has a lot of ability. 870 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 17: But what I love about him, I love his toughness, 871 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 17: his resilience. He's going to show somebody gritty play here, 872 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 17: and how he performs here will give guys a better 873 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 17: understanding of how he can play at the next level. 874 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on the flip side. 875 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 16: I'm gonna go with the Jaylen Daniels quarterback out of Kansas, 876 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 16: somebody who necessarily doesn't have the stature that you're looking for, 877 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 16: six foot tw hundred, twenty pounds, but throws one of 878 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 16: the prettiest balls that you can ever imagine. Twenty two touchdowns, 879 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 16: seven interceptions. He makes good decisions, He's done well in practice. 880 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 16: Will to show up in the game. 881 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 15: Yeah, looking forward to seeing the four time captain at 882 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 15: Kansas certainly ball out and we are certainly looking forward 883 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 15: to bringing you the one hundred and first edition of 884 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 15: the East West Shrine Ball. You can catch it tonight 885 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 15: at seven Eastern time right here on NFL Network. 886 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeahm Er Bucky Brooks, Isaiah standback on the Call of 887 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: the East West Shrine Bowl seven pm Eastern Time on Tuesday. 888 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: Right here, Tom Peliser, Mike Garrafalo, We've got live insiders, 889 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: a couple of them. Tomorrows was live practice coverage. All 890 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: starts at two pm Eastern time. Assuming Mic that you 891 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: get through the winter storm and actually make it here 892 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: on time, should be fine. 893 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 6: Tom. 894 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 8: I'm gonna take that flight tomorrow, gonna be down there. 895 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 8: Got insiders from Mobile. What is this off season that 896 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 8: you speak of, I know nothing about it. 897 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: Nope, we call it the pre draft process. That's the 898 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: off season. At least that's what my wife says. All right, 899 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: lot to come stick around to my practices. It's football. 900 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: Be here, see you