Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 3: Here's Bobby that hey welcome. You know, sometimes you just
Speaker 3: go too hard and our guy here just went too hard.
Speaker 7: I didn't. Yeah, I think Vegas caught up Tony from
Speaker 7: last week.
Speaker 3: Vegas always catches up with everybody, and it's a mix
Speaker 3: because you get out there in that heat and those
Speaker 3: sand allergies what I call them so dry. It just
Speaker 3: kills you.
Speaker 8: And my lips were so chapped, and it's almost embarrassing
Speaker 8: because you guys sit.
Speaker 7: Down and talk to people and you're going like this,
Speaker 7: You're like, don't like your lips again, don't like.
Speaker 3: And it also feels weird to put on chapstake, Like
Speaker 3: I don't claim to be the most mass skilling guy ever.
Speaker 7: I am not.
Speaker 3: However, putting on chapstick feels like I'm putting on lipstick.
Speaker 3: It does, and if I do it, I try to
Speaker 3: do it when no one's looking at me, and so yeah, well.
Speaker 7: You know what you look good. Yeah, I feel fine. No,
Speaker 7: I don't. I feel awful.
Speaker 8: I've been up coughing all night, trying to get the
Speaker 8: demons out, as I like to say. But at the
Speaker 8: same time, you know, you know what's better than chapstick?
Speaker 8: And I tried this just because it was the only
Speaker 8: thing that I found in my wife's saying lip bomb.
Speaker 7: They've got like that glossy.
Speaker 3: Lip bomb that you mightst say, tampons, Well, never tried
Speaker 3: one of those.
Speaker 7: I thought that would have been interesting.
Speaker 3: I've had a yes many times. Yeah, And the kind
Speaker 3: that works are the because you have to like break
Speaker 3: the stick. Yes, you got to get the phone out,
Speaker 3: the foam up there. Yeah, I've done that a few times. Okay,
Speaker 3: look we're here.
Speaker 7: We sure are.
Speaker 3: Not only that you came back from Vegas went right
Speaker 3: to training camp.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 3: So we're outside sweating our face off there.
Speaker 7: Man, it was hot out there, wasn't it was.
Speaker 3: It was brutal, and so we're going to actually go
Speaker 3: back and play some of the cool off. We did
Speaker 3: a training camp first, we'll do us sitting with Ian Rapp,
Speaker 3: report of the rap Sheet of NFL Network, really one
Speaker 3: of my favorite insiders, and so let's start with us.
Speaker 3: I would say backstage, but I guess it's not really
Speaker 3: a stage.
Speaker 7: That was not a stage that was a mini like
Speaker 7: Janitor's classm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we're like underneath the stadium because it was
Speaker 3: so loud on the stadium. This is us with Ian Rapport.
Speaker 3: I feel like if I were to watch Cosso paint,
Speaker 3: that'd be pretty cool. I'm watching Ian Rapport tweet right now.
Speaker 9: I know it is it is too.
Speaker 10: Yes, finish your tweet, because you know we see it
Speaker 10: from the other side.
Speaker 9: We see it from the other side, and we're always.
Speaker 11: Be tweeting it. I'm just I'm just getting ready prepared
Speaker 11: because you know, you get the ghost sign and you
Speaker 11: got to be ready to hit the sends. I'm getting ready,
Speaker 11: so you guys can talk and I'll keep typing.
Speaker 7: You're seeing a professor at work.
Speaker 3: We are at Titans camp today, so if you're watching this,
Speaker 3: one of the bowels of the stadium. We thought we'd
Speaker 3: be on the football field, but they wouldn't turn the
Speaker 3: music off, which I guess a little a little much
Speaker 3: for us to ask to turning music down.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it.
Speaker 6: Also was family day, so everybody's out there. You got
Speaker 6: kids running around. It's a little bit chaotic. So yeah,
Speaker 6: we're back here.
Speaker 3: I would like for you to tell the story because
Speaker 3: we were out and I'd asked you if you'd ever
Speaker 3: held before, meaning uh, on field on special team?
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you had, you have a history of holding.
Speaker 10: Did you ever do it in high school?
Speaker 8: Though? No?
Speaker 6: I actually kicked Pat's in high school, no way, And
Speaker 6: I punted, believe it or not.
Speaker 10: And you played quarterback and safety. Did you ever play
Speaker 10: d for you?
Speaker 7: Did?
Speaker 9: I was you knows?
Speaker 10: Never came off firstatile in college? Did you ever hold?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 9: College, I was always the backup holder.
Speaker 6: I didn't have to, But I actually didn't have to
Speaker 6: hold because I actually was on a special team's unit.
Speaker 6: I played on kickoff and kickoff return my junior year.
Speaker 6: So myself in linear battled out long story short. Midway
Speaker 6: through that season, Lineard's doing pretty well, you know, heading
Speaker 6: up the Heisman Trophy race and all that stuff, and
Speaker 6: so we had some injuries. They switched me to tight end.
Speaker 6: Well they when you switch a tight end, you don't
Speaker 6: just play tight end. You are on all the special
Speaker 6: teams units. So I'm on special teams kickoff, I'm in
Speaker 6: the wedge on the return team and just getting.
Speaker 11: So listeners are like, what's the wedge.
Speaker 6: The wedge is like when you you're the last line
Speaker 6: of defense before you actually get to the returner. So
Speaker 6: that means everybody that from that kickoff line coming at
Speaker 6: you gets the full head of steam because nobody touches
Speaker 6: them by the time they.
Speaker 9: Reach you, and you just get blown up.
Speaker 10: You're sacrificial wedge buster, sacrificial lee.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It was brutal, but in terms of holding, it was
Speaker 6: my second year in New England. Josh Miller goes down.
Speaker 6: He's our punter who's also our primary holder. He gets
Speaker 6: his shoulder hurt. I'm thrown into holding. Well, this is
Speaker 6: during like now our playoff runt our. First game right
Speaker 6: before playoffs was in Jacksonville. It's downpour. I just put
Speaker 6: the ball down, laces toward the kicker, Steven Goaskowski kicks
Speaker 6: it in laces in, No laces out right, O, no
Speaker 6: laces in laces in so like it was a hunter. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and I've worked it, but look when it's storming, you know,
Speaker 6: you just to do what you gotta do.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 6: I ended up holding throughout the playoffs, go all the
Speaker 6: way through the AFC championship against the Colts, and that
Speaker 6: year was a year that Romo mess and fubbed up
Speaker 6: that one in.
Speaker 9: Set lost the playoff game.
Speaker 6: So that's in the back of my mind the entire
Speaker 6: time during playoffs, just more more stressful than even playing quarterback.
Speaker 11: Well here here's what's interesting to me. So like holder
Speaker 11: is a great job because you really don't have to
Speaker 11: do anything. Like you do it enough. It's probably pretty easy.
Speaker 11: You get to have like the celebratory handshake or headbutt
Speaker 11: with the kicker. Oh yeah, maybe they jump into your
Speaker 11: arms like there's some great moments. But on the off chance,
Speaker 11: you you know, Romo it like, that's bad. So I
Speaker 11: feel like risk reward, that's worth it to do it,
Speaker 11: but not a slam dunk it is.
Speaker 6: Luckily it was an opener, and I actually they started
Speaker 6: a year off the next year with me as the holder.
Speaker 6: First one exactly what you're saying. Came in hot Lonnie
Speaker 6: Paxson had through a heavy ball and I fumbled it.
Speaker 6: I yell, so you yell fire right. It was a release,
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to run outside the pocket. I get
Speaker 6: absolutely lambasted. Like coaches like what happened. I was like
Speaker 6: I think it was a little low. They watched the film.
Speaker 6: It's like hitting me right there.
Speaker 9: He's like, you're out.
Speaker 10: I was like, yes, I have a buddy who was
Speaker 10: a deep snapper.
Speaker 3: And two years ago the Cowboys picked Hm up last
Speaker 3: minute and so he goes in I like three days notice,
Speaker 3: and so we're excited because he's the guy. And first
Speaker 3: snap right over the head, first snap, The risk was
Speaker 3: much heavier than the award on that.
Speaker 10: To no, he stayed next and had a good season.
Speaker 9: Oh good for him.
Speaker 3: They had to have a deep snapper, so I guess,
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of don't go to three or
Speaker 3: four after that.
Speaker 6: I mean, but that is a tough position, man, because
Speaker 6: you only get noticed as if you mess up. If
Speaker 6: you just do your job the normal way, nobody's ever
Speaker 6: going to say anything to you. It's you're not gonna
Speaker 6: get any of the limelight unless you kick the game
Speaker 6: winning field goal. But the long snapper's not for the
Speaker 6: sequencing before that, right, it's just the kicker that's going
Speaker 6: to get the glory.
Speaker 10: And thanks for coming by.
Speaker 11: How many of these do you see you?
Speaker 9: Sorry?
Speaker 11: I thought you were saying goodbye.
Speaker 10: You know, it's been fine.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 10: For the time. How many of these camps do you do?
Speaker 11: I think it'll be like sixteen.
Speaker 10: And do you stay on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like an artist. You're like a like a
Speaker 3: rock artist, not even like a country artist. Or if
Speaker 3: like I'm touring, if I'm doing stand up, I come
Speaker 3: home during the week and I do Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 11: No, it's it's I got my suitcase over there. I
Speaker 11: got like six changes of clothes. I will I got
Speaker 11: some washer sheets if you got to wash something in
Speaker 11: the sink, but you try to find like a washing
Speaker 11: fold where you can go, like stop by before practice,
Speaker 11: wash all your stuff, pick them up after practice, go right.
Speaker 11: I go from here, I'm going right to the airport.
Speaker 11: Like that's what it's like.
Speaker 10: You're like Green Day and ninety five touring.
Speaker 11: Just create out the talent, just out the talent.
Speaker 10: Well, let's talk about a couple of things here.
Speaker 3: Cam Ord I had mentioned earlier the expectation the last
Speaker 3: couple of years has changed with rookie quarterbacks because.
Speaker 10: We saw c. J.
Speaker 3: Stroud do it, we saw Jade and Daniels do it,
Speaker 3: but again they had pretty good supporting casts.
Speaker 10: What is the ceiling for cam ord this year.
Speaker 11: You know, I look at this place and I look
Speaker 11: at the Commanders last year, and I think the Commanders
Speaker 11: probably were a little more stable and had a little
Speaker 11: more talent than this team, but like not not significant,
Speaker 11: you know, like in the ballpark, and maybe you have
Speaker 11: some players who play a little better than are being expected,
Speaker 11: so maybe the talent is somewhat similar, like if Jade
Speaker 11: Daniels can come in and lead that team to the playoffs.
Speaker 11: Then considering the expectations of cam Wood, considering what I've
Speaker 11: heard today talking to coaches, players, people who are around them
Speaker 11: all the time, executives, like you know, the expectations are
Speaker 11: really high, and they have been more than pleased with
Speaker 11: what they've seen. Like you know, this team will have
Speaker 11: the chance to win some games, will it. I don't know.
Speaker 11: Commanders needed a bunch of help too, needed a hell
Speaker 11: Mary and a lot of stuff. But like, I don't like,
Speaker 11: I'd be surprised if this team is at least not
Speaker 11: a lot better than last year.
Speaker 9: As a number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 6: With when you think about Cam wod, is he the
Speaker 6: least talked about number one draft pick.
Speaker 11: That he's boring?
Speaker 6: Yeah, in recent history, like there's not not any excitement
Speaker 6: or on a movie in the city there is, but everybody.
Speaker 7: Nobody talks about cam Morton.
Speaker 11: I get it. I covered him extensively in the draft.
Speaker 11: I had a lot of conversations about cam Ward, and
Speaker 11: when it came time to really report on him, there
Speaker 11: wasn't a ton to say. It's a great kid who's
Speaker 11: raised right it she met his dad out here on
Speaker 11: the field, he works incredibly hard. He's a great student,
Speaker 11: He's really smart. He's kind of cold blooded on the field.
Speaker 11: Teammates love him. He wakes up early, he stays late.
Speaker 11: He organized his own meetings. Like there's not like a
Speaker 11: lot of discussion that he had, Like what's to talk about?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we need him to do something bad.
Speaker 3: The only thing that made the news was him being
Speaker 3: on a live stream talking about how really was like
Speaker 3: his favorite receiver of all time. Like he was even
Speaker 3: saying the things right while he was on a live stream.
Speaker 11: And like knowing that now, like that makes sense, Like
Speaker 11: nothing is by accident, everything is calculated. He has seems
Speaker 11: to have incredible awareness on the field. You knew you
Speaker 11: could see it today. There's a couple of plays you're like,
Speaker 11: oh boy, and then off the field obviously too, so
Speaker 11: like that's some good awareness. That's like, that's real stuff.
Speaker 3: Let's do five questions with the end. We'll just rotate.
Speaker 3: I'll go first. Aaron Rodgers. I watched him throw today
Speaker 3: just on Twitter. What's the ceiling for Pittsburgh this year?
Speaker 11: I mean, if Rogers is the same Aaron Rodgers he
Speaker 11: was at the end of last year for the Jets,
Speaker 11: they could be really good. Now. Like you know, older quarterbacks,
Speaker 11: you get lower leg injuries, Like those things don't go away.
Speaker 11: So like if he tweaks an anko or hurts a
Speaker 11: hamstring or a calf, like you know, he's old, He's
Speaker 11: like us. He's old, so you know, those things take
Speaker 11: a while to heal. But if he's healthy, they could
Speaker 11: be as good as they could be good. I mean,
Speaker 11: because that defense is good. They got some weapons, like
Speaker 11: they could be good.
Speaker 6: Expectations for Ben Johnson his first year with Chicago and
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams going into his second season.
Speaker 11: I mean, for Caleb Williams, it is going to be
Speaker 11: a challenge, like he is going to be coached very hard.
Speaker 11: I think he wants it, which a lot of people
Speaker 11: can say, but you know, you don't you've been coached hard,
Speaker 11: Like it's not the most fun thing of all the time.
Speaker 9: You don't sometimes want to hear it.
Speaker 11: Right, So that's what it's going to be. Like, I
Speaker 11: think they'll be better, you know, could they be a
Speaker 11: playoff team?
Speaker 12: Like?
Speaker 11: I think they could, but it's gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones does this thing mostly preseason. He's
Speaker 3: talking a lot. It's not just after games, He's talking
Speaker 3: pretty much every day. He says he thought about for
Speaker 3: a second and not being the general manager. There's no
Speaker 3: chance of that happening while he's alive, right, No.
Speaker 11: Nope, I mean he bought the team to be the GM. Now.
Speaker 11: It's funny you say that though, because like they're an
Speaker 11: incredibly well run football team. They really are, Like Stephen
Speaker 11: Jones and Will McLay have done an incredible job of drafting, developing,
Speaker 11: setting it infrastructure, having a place where players can come
Speaker 11: in and contribute to media. Like, I know, last year
Speaker 11: was bad. Coaching wise, last year was not good. They're
Speaker 11: a very well run organization. So like do they take
Speaker 11: extra time to do contracts? Like, yeah, they do, But otherwise,
Speaker 11: like I think they're I think Jerry being the GM
Speaker 11: or not, They've actually done a pretty nice job for
Speaker 11: the Patriots.
Speaker 6: Mike Rabel, is this a team that could potentially push
Speaker 6: to get a wild card spot or push into the
Speaker 6: playoffs this year?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would think so, because like the best thing
Speaker 11: Vrabel's gonna do is he's gonna make sure, like the
Speaker 11: bottom thirty guys are better. They're all gonna get a
Speaker 11: little bit better. They're gonna work a little harder, they
Speaker 11: can know what they're doing. They're all gonna get.
Speaker 3: A little bit better.
Speaker 11: And like that's how you that's how you have a
Speaker 11: good special teams. That's how you have good depth. So
Speaker 11: like in November, when the fifth linebacker's playing like he's
Speaker 11: gonna know what he's doing, you know. So, like I
Speaker 11: think they'll be a little bit better, and the quarterback
Speaker 11: could be really good, like really good. So that's you know,
Speaker 11: they should be like competing for a playoff spot and
Speaker 11: then when it comes down to it, we'll see if
Speaker 11: they get.
Speaker 7: It or not.
Speaker 3: Last question, most most years is a team that doesn't
Speaker 3: make the playoffs that ends up doing really well. Who's
Speaker 3: that team this year that's probably gonna jump?
Speaker 11: You know, the Raiders. I think have a chance. They
Speaker 11: got a quarterback now who's who's good is more than good.
Speaker 11: And I think Pete Carroll, you know, based on the
Speaker 11: way he'll help the culture there and you know the
Speaker 11: way he'll kind of just get him going in the
Speaker 11: right direction with a little bit of optimism and excitement.
Speaker 11: I mean, I think they have a chance to be
Speaker 11: much better than last year.
Speaker 10: And appreciate the time. Another shirt to watching the scene.
Speaker 10: Yes they're fans.
Speaker 11: Thank you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 3: All right after we finished with the end. We were
Speaker 3: lucky enough that Tony Pollard came by. Antony Pollard had
Speaker 3: his first year with Titans. Last year before that was
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, split some time with Zeke you know,
Speaker 3: not big of a dude.
Speaker 8: It wasn't that big a deal, dude, But what a
Speaker 8: cool story, right, Yeah, because the story about him going
Speaker 8: being recruited to college as a wide receiver and making
Speaker 8: that trendes into running back his junior year in college
Speaker 8: and then going to the Dallas Cowboys backing up Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 8: getting some time and just working his way into being
Speaker 8: the number one guy, and then finally coming to the
Speaker 8: Tennessee Titans. Really cool story and really good player gives
Speaker 8: hope to a guy like me. I can still make it.
Speaker 7: You can still make it.
Speaker 3: Like when I say not big, mostly I just mean
Speaker 3: like not he's not super tall, but he's definitely you
Speaker 3: would see him and think that's an athlete in something.
Speaker 7: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Running backs now have to take so much abuse that
Speaker 3: I expected. I guess another forty pounds on just any
Speaker 3: generic NFL running.
Speaker 8: Back, right, But I think that part of his game
Speaker 8: too is he's making people miss.
Speaker 3: And why I can do it.
Speaker 7: I think he's making people miss.
Speaker 8: He's got value in the past game because he obviously
Speaker 8: can be a guy that comes out of the backfield,
Speaker 8: catches the and get.
Speaker 7: You yardage there.
Speaker 8: But he's also one of those guys the last two
Speaker 8: seasons head over a thousand yards, so he's proven that
Speaker 8: he can run inside the tackles.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: Here he is. I actually loved hanging out with him.
Speaker 3: Here is Tony Pollard. What happens out there today a
Speaker 3: day like today, because you guys didn't have pads on,
Speaker 3: but it looked like you were making a little bit
Speaker 3: of contact, Like what's the stop rule?
Speaker 13: I mean today is pretty much how we've been doing
Speaker 13: it at the facility of practicing. You know, we're not
Speaker 13: in past yet, so it's just it's pretty much like
Speaker 13: a light tap off. You know, we had the spiders
Speaker 13: on that were kind of padded, so yeah, just just running,
Speaker 13: trying to get yourself a position and then tag off
Speaker 13: on help if you can, and.
Speaker 9: Then just let the guy run by.
Speaker 6: When you go through these practices, like you said, you're
Speaker 6: in shells and doing all this stuff, when do you
Speaker 6: really finally start to feel that contact.
Speaker 9: Is it not until week one or you know, preseason.
Speaker 6: Obviously you get a little bit of that, but it's
Speaker 6: a different scenario when somebody's actually trying to tackle you.
Speaker 13: I would say, count, you know, count. Once we get
Speaker 13: into pasts, that's when you know we're really playing football.
Speaker 13: Like today, it's really hard to you know, just to
Speaker 13: run the ball on the day like today without pass
Speaker 13: everybody slippery, sweaty. But once we get in camp, you know,
Speaker 13: once we get to traveling, you know, playing other teams
Speaker 13: scrimmage and other teams like that, that's when we're really
Speaker 13: getting into playing football.
Speaker 10: Getting ready for the year.
Speaker 3: When do you start training hard and then do you
Speaker 3: taper off before you get started again? Like what is
Speaker 3: preparation like before the year starts.
Speaker 13: I mean, after the season, it's probably best to take
Speaker 13: a few weeks off, probably take like a month off,
Speaker 13: you know, just let your body recover from whatever injuries
Speaker 13: you were dealing with, and uh, once you're feeling healthy
Speaker 13: to get back to it, get back to working out.
Speaker 13: Then you got OTAs, you got mini camp. Then after
Speaker 13: that you get a month. So I would say like
Speaker 13: during that month, you probably take like a week off,
Speaker 13: week and a half, and then you're back to it
Speaker 13: getting to the ground. So when you come in for camp,
Speaker 13: you know you want to hit the.
Speaker 10: Ground rolling, Like what do you do for your body?
Speaker 7: Red light?
Speaker 3: You're doing?
Speaker 10: Cry out, Like what is it? That's what I want
Speaker 10: to do, and you're trying to steal yourself.
Speaker 13: Actually, I'm a I'm an old school type of guy.
Speaker 13: Like I love cold hot tub, you know, I love
Speaker 13: doing contrast, you know, getting in their treatment. You know,
Speaker 13: I've I've been doing a lot of prehab, you know,
Speaker 13: not waiting until I get an injury, you know, just
Speaker 13: just working things before, you know, doing ankle mobility things
Speaker 13: like that, you know, just working little things. You know,
Speaker 13: I'm big on the cold, hot tub. I feel like
Speaker 13: that's the biggest.
Speaker 7: Thing for me.
Speaker 6: You've got a new offense coordinator, Nick Holts. How much
Speaker 6: does this offensive scheme change from what you guys are
Speaker 6: doing last year?
Speaker 13: Honestly, it hasn't changed much, just just certain ways that
Speaker 13: you know, we want to just do what we're good at.
Speaker 13: You know, we're gonna run a lot of play action,
Speaker 13: you know, with the quarterback that we have, you know,
Speaker 13: cam Ward, a guy that is able to you know,
Speaker 13: get the ball all around the field, make all types
Speaker 13: of plays that you know aren't called in the playbook. So,
Speaker 13: you know, just trying to not do too much different,
Speaker 13: but just just stick to what we're good at and mastered.
Speaker 10: You have Cartoon Network totch you on your knee?
Speaker 7: Is that that?
Speaker 8: This is?
Speaker 3: I see?
Speaker 13: I do it was It's pretty much like a legs
Speaker 13: leave of everything I used to watch growing up.
Speaker 10: What what else do you have? I see Cartoon Network.
Speaker 9: I got Dragon ball Z. I got Tom and Jerry.
Speaker 13: Don't go up, John, that's awesome, dude, I got the
Speaker 13: Ruts Scooby Doo on the back.
Speaker 10: What was the first one?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 10: What started that?
Speaker 9: Actually?
Speaker 13: It was it was I got it when I was
Speaker 13: in Dallas, and uh, that was like, you know, it
Speaker 13: was a big thing going around with guys. We're getting
Speaker 13: you know, the big tattoos and you know, getting put
Speaker 13: down so they could just get it all done.
Speaker 9: Andy want. So that was kind of how.
Speaker 10: Wait did you go to they put you down?
Speaker 9: Like they put you to sleep? I was gonna ask
Speaker 9: you what was paint for one or there?
Speaker 7: You even know?
Speaker 3: I woke They did all that in one Wow.
Speaker 10: How long were you asleep?
Speaker 9: Eighteen hours?
Speaker 13: Yeah, something like that, about about twelve wow, twelve fourteen hours?
Speaker 3: And then you could you take a shower for like
Speaker 3: a week after that? It was a wrapped in cellophane
Speaker 3: because I have something I showered.
Speaker 13: It just was like a yeah, just let the water
Speaker 13: run on the David to I.
Speaker 6: Love watching you play cause I think you're one of
Speaker 6: these dynamic backs that not just can do it as
Speaker 6: a runner, but you take a lot of pride in
Speaker 6: the past game.
Speaker 9: And I saw that.
Speaker 6: You grew up and you actually went to college as
Speaker 6: a receiver, right, and you made that transition to running
Speaker 6: back your junior year. Yeah, talk to me about that
Speaker 6: and was that a tough transition or is that just
Speaker 6: something because of your experience in the return game and
Speaker 6: carrying the ball, that that was an easy transition for you.
Speaker 9: It wasn't tough at all.
Speaker 13: I grew up my whole life playing running back, you know,
Speaker 13: so running back is pretty much it's second nature to me.
Speaker 13: You know, it's natural for me. It was my twelfth
Speaker 13: grade year in high school. That's when I went to receiver,
Speaker 13: my first time playing receiver. Then when I got to college.
Speaker 13: When I came to college, I was I was playing receiver.
Speaker 13: My first coach was justin for wine my red search year,
Speaker 13: and then he left. And then that next year, coach
Speaker 13: Mike Norvel came in and he moved me back to
Speaker 13: running back. And then I would meet with the running backs,
Speaker 13: you know in the meeting rooms and things like that.
Speaker 9: But once we got the practice and we did like
Speaker 9: one on.
Speaker 13: One one as I would go down with the receivers
Speaker 13: and do it all the one on ones with the receivers,
Speaker 13: and like, depending on the weeks, I switch. Sometimes I
Speaker 13: go through the you know, the box reels, you know,
Speaker 13: do the inside run down there with the running back,
Speaker 13: O line, D line.
Speaker 9: Sometimes I go through the one on ones with the
Speaker 9: receivers and.
Speaker 3: Wow, last question, you had three thousand yard seasons in
Speaker 3: a row. When you look at goals, is a yardage
Speaker 3: game based? Yardage season based? Like what are goals for you?
Speaker 13: I want to get better every year, no numbers wise,
Speaker 13: you know, just trying to up the numbers every year.
Speaker 13: You know, I'm I don't feel like I'm on the dcline,
Speaker 13: you know, honestly, I feel like I came in like
Speaker 13: I didn't. I wasn't the normal back that you know,
Speaker 13: get the normal wear and tear to get their body
Speaker 13: beat up my first few years, so I had a
Speaker 13: chance to you know, sit behind a great back, but
Speaker 13: also get a good amount of experience and you know,
Speaker 13: get a feel for the game without just getting my
Speaker 13: body into a beat up. So now I'm at the
Speaker 13: point of where, you know, I feel like I'm I'm
Speaker 13: my prime when I'm ready to keep people.
Speaker 10: I'm trying to appreciate everything the time I.
Speaker 9: Appreciated man, Thank you, You'll get.
Speaker 3: Next up. We talked with Special Teams coordinator Coach Fossil
Speaker 3: aka bones as they call them, which makes sense because
Speaker 3: the fossil is the bone.
Speaker 8: Yes, it does make sense, and he does look like
Speaker 8: a lot of skin and bones.
Speaker 3: He does, but he's very tall.
Speaker 7: He is tall, isn't he?
Speaker 3: And his dad is.
Speaker 7: Who Jim Fossil?
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you know that Kevin?
Speaker 10: I did just because the research I did.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad that you do your research.
Speaker 3: His dad is coach Jim Fossil, so here. He is
Speaker 3: the special teams coordinator for the Titans.
Speaker 6: Coach Fossil so regarded by many as one of the
Speaker 6: best special teams, if not the best special team coach
Speaker 6: in the entire NFL. Coach John Fossil, thank you for
Speaker 6: being with us today on the Bobby Bone Show.
Speaker 9: How was it out there, Bobby Bones back Castle?
Speaker 12: Lots of same Yeah, Hey, anything for a Bones yeah
Speaker 12: and other bones.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Talk to me about So you got here, and obviously
Speaker 6: special teams was an issue for this team and you
Speaker 6: probably went and evaluated what's some of the main things
Speaker 6: that you're focused on this year with your units?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Great, call, mat.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, so I got hot in January
Speaker 12: and I was a new guy, so in OTA's you know,
Speaker 12: I'm introducing and acclimating myself to the guys that we're
Speaker 12: already here. And I watched the little tape and you know,
Speaker 12: last year. I knew some things that happened, the good
Speaker 12: and the not so good. But what I've tried to
Speaker 12: just really work hard on so far in OTA's and
Speaker 12: training camp is just honestly the base fundamentals pump protection,
Speaker 12: block destruction, blocking, penalty free, trying to create a super
Speaker 12: competitive environment where the goal is just make sure, fellows,
Speaker 12: we're winning or one on ones, and here's the tools
Speaker 12: to do that. And if we all do that, then
Speaker 12: we're gonna have good plays.
Speaker 2: But that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Are you ever in the head coach's ear when he's
Speaker 3: debating on what going for that sixty four yarkfield goal?
Speaker 10: Like, I know we got this coach, I know, Like,
Speaker 10: are you a part of that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Yeah, So the last couple of years in Dallas, you know,
Speaker 12: we had a couple of strong lady kickers, especially the
Speaker 12: last two years, and you know, we always come out
Speaker 12: pregame and say, hey, are yard line is the forty
Speaker 12: or the forty one, forty two? We gotta get to
Speaker 12: that yard line for the field goal, and then you
Speaker 12: know it's fourth down or on the forty four yard
Speaker 12: line and I'm like, let's kick a field goal, and
Speaker 12: they're like that's not the why we agreed to, you know,
Speaker 12: and then we kick it remake and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 12: so it's talked about before, but in game there's always
Speaker 12: a little bit of adjustment. And I always like to
Speaker 12: keep the field goals for points, you know, knowing the
Speaker 12: cost of a miss, but still trying to worry about that.
Speaker 12: Just look at three points on the board and big
Speaker 12: plays and you know, big field goals are a great
Speaker 12: momentum us when the sideline sets, your kicker knock it
Speaker 12: in from sixty three.
Speaker 2: Like it's a big play.
Speaker 6: You've been coaching for a really long time, obviously, there's
Speaker 6: been a lot of rule changes that have taken place
Speaker 6: over your time coaching. Probably the most significant recently is
Speaker 6: the kickoff. Or have you been in favor of that?
Speaker 6: Is that something that you like or is it just
Speaker 6: something that you think that the game has evolved?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I love it, And yeah before it went in
Speaker 12: about a year two before it went in, when the
Speaker 12: XFL started running it and we were kind of like,
Speaker 12: you know, put the fair catch in on kick return.
Speaker 2: We didn't like that.
Speaker 12: So there's a kind of a small committee special teams
Speaker 12: coaches that we're kind of talking with the NFL about well,
Speaker 12: what can we do to make the play safer and better?
Speaker 12: And so we thought we had a good model with
Speaker 12: the XFL used and we kind of tweaked it to
Speaker 12: make it our own.
Speaker 2: But I love it for multiple reasons.
Speaker 12: I think it's a better play, and it's definitely a
Speaker 12: safer play. It's a lot better play to practice because
Speaker 12: you don't have the length of running the high speeder running,
Speaker 12: and the collisions are a little bit lower because it's
Speaker 12: just immediate five yard combat, so.
Speaker 2: It just gets right to the action a lot faster.
Speaker 12: I think the players love it, and as a coach,
Speaker 12: I'm a huge fan of it because it's gonna put
Speaker 12: the ball and play a little bit more and it's
Speaker 12: just it's just action right now. So it's going to
Speaker 12: be really healthy for the league as I think everybody
Speaker 12: kind of grows on it.
Speaker 3: Do you look for different players now, different types of
Speaker 3: players to actually be on let's take the kickoff unit,
Speaker 3: because earlier Matt was talking about being in the wedge.
Speaker 10: In college, you had to be in the wedge.
Speaker 2: And there was a wedge buster, which you put me
Speaker 2: in the wedge.
Speaker 10: But there's no wedge now, right like you're looking for,
Speaker 10: you would not be a wedge guy, but.
Speaker 6: Thank you coach Carrol put in the wedge. And I
Speaker 6: was on kickoff at like number three in my junior
Speaker 6: area and I was like, what, coach, are you evaluating
Speaker 6: evaluating me wrong?
Speaker 9: I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 2: That'd be just practice. I'm sure you any the.
Speaker 3: Same kind of maniacs running down or are you looking
Speaker 3: for a different type of player?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 12: And we thought that putting this new kickoff in you
Speaker 12: would need a little different body type, whether it's the bigger,
Speaker 12: longer pass rusher type body that might be kind of
Speaker 12: does away with maybe the smaller, faster penetrator. But as
Speaker 12: we found out over this past year, it still applies
Speaker 12: for everybody. And so you're still at the mercy of
Speaker 12: the forty eight guys you dress on game day, but
Speaker 12: the same body types that were in the old kickoff
Speaker 12: and kickoff return you still use them equally the same
Speaker 12: because there's still strength and weaknesses. There's there's still room
Speaker 12: for the penetrators, uh, and there's definitely still room for
Speaker 12: the big guys that they don't have to run maybe
Speaker 12: like they used to. So It's been a really cool
Speaker 12: evolution over one year to kind of think of what
Speaker 12: we thought was going to be good, and then after
Speaker 12: a year's worth of doing it, like what, it's not
Speaker 12: exactly what we thought. This is a little bit better,
Speaker 12: a little bit of a change. So long answer to
Speaker 12: a simple question is it's built for every body type
Speaker 12: and every player if they got the mindset and kind
Speaker 12: of a little bit of that reckless attitude.
Speaker 2: With a little bit of technique involved.
Speaker 6: You Can you talk about the mindset of these guys
Speaker 6: on special teams because I played with some great ones
Speaker 6: Matthew Slater, Larry Is of some of these guys that were.
Speaker 9: Lifetime special teams. That's how they made their money.
Speaker 6: But it takes a particular mindset and human to run
Speaker 6: down a field full blast, put their body in harm's
Speaker 6: way every single time. Can you talk about how you
Speaker 6: teach that or do you have to find that in
Speaker 6: those guys and how how do you go to the
Speaker 6: head coach and said, we got to keep this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because the value that he adds will be on special teams,
Speaker 6: but that's going to be very valuable going down the road.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's awesome, So of course I coach special teams.
Speaker 12: I'm super biased, but I just love and have such
Speaker 12: a respect for guys that come in and really embrace
Speaker 12: the role of being on special teams, mostly young guys,
Speaker 12: undrafted guys, you know, middle to the late round picks,
Speaker 12: and just how can I carve out a role on
Speaker 12: the football team, and of course the avenues through special teams.
Speaker 12: But we watch a lot of tape on the best players.
Speaker 12: You know, we watched Chery McMahons, guys don't know about
Speaker 12: Matt Slater, Cody Davis, Jayden Reeves made you know a
Speaker 12: lot of guys that are still active or former. And
Speaker 12: when you watch the best guys, they're not the fastest,
Speaker 12: they're not the biggest, they're not the strongest, they're just
Speaker 12: absolutely relentless.
Speaker 2: Like Matt Slater.
Speaker 12: He was fast, he was agile, he was strong, but
Speaker 12: probably not any of those things. But his motor and
Speaker 12: his relentlessness was so different.
Speaker 2: Like how do you stop that?
Speaker 12: And so sometimes that just comes to you and sometimes
Speaker 12: that can be developed, you know, through through some tools
Speaker 12: and some confidence. So love the guys that love the
Speaker 12: game and they come in all shapes and sizes.
Speaker 3: Final question, who are the more interesting kickers you've worked
Speaker 3: with interesting, Like you.
Speaker 7: Know, I'm only yea is.
Speaker 3: I feel like even the ones I've got to know
Speaker 3: even in college, like at times they're set, they separate
Speaker 3: themselves because they need to be separated.
Speaker 10: Who are the more interesting beers he worked with.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that.
Speaker 12: I've been really lucky to be with some great kickers.
Speaker 12: Probably the most interesting in all great ways with Sebastian Janakowski.
Speaker 12: I was with him for four years and when I
Speaker 12: got there, he might have been like his eighth year,
Speaker 12: so he was already established. But he wasn't, you know,
Speaker 12: probably even halfway through his career. And I learned a
Speaker 12: ton from him, you know, he he was super passionate.
Speaker 12: He was a very big guy, but loved the weight room,
Speaker 12: in the fitness. He didn't overthink anything, and that was
Speaker 12: really I came from Baltimore, was messed over for a
Speaker 12: couple of years, but Sebastian really taught me a lot,
Speaker 12: to be honest with you. And then when you know,
Speaker 12: I went to the Rams, it was Greg Zerlin and
Speaker 12: then you know, Brandon Aubrey and some great kickers and
Speaker 12: now Joey Slide. But Sebastian, maybe just because it was
Speaker 12: one of the first ones I was really around and
Speaker 12: I was a coordinator for was just a very interesting
Speaker 12: man in a lot of great ways, and a great
Speaker 12: football player and one of the best teammates I've been around.
Speaker 2: So shout out to see Bass. He's an all the timer.
Speaker 6: Can I just followed with that, You know, when you're
Speaker 6: dealing with your place kicker and you're you're a kicker
Speaker 6: that's going to win you ballgames, how delicate is that situation?
Speaker 6: Like do you have to learn that personality of when
Speaker 6: to push? And also because it's such a mental game,
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, somebody that's golf standover putt, you
Speaker 6: either get the yips or whatever, and then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden it goes downhill. How do you how do
Speaker 6: you go about navigating that relationship with some of those guys.
Speaker 12: Yeah, now that's cool. I think it's built off of
Speaker 12: trust for sure. And that's a that's a great question
Speaker 12: and a hard answer because if it's a younger guy,
Speaker 12: I think they need some reassurance and some confidence building. Hey,
Speaker 12: come on, man, you know, pick it back up. Some
Speaker 12: of the veteran guys, they don't need to be talked
Speaker 12: too too much. And sometimes the more you say, the
Speaker 12: worst it would be, you know, because they know what
Speaker 12: they did wrong and they don't need to hear about
Speaker 12: it and over analyze what happened. But there is there
Speaker 12: is a balance of the mental part for a kicker.
Speaker 12: Like when we had Brandon Aubrey first year in Dallas
Speaker 12: two years ago, his very first kick of his career,
Speaker 12: he chanks the pat like geez, you know, So he said,
Speaker 12: hey man, you know a little bit wet, you know,
Speaker 12: just keep yourself locked in make sure you swing it
Speaker 12: the next one, And that's kind of the simple message
Speaker 12: without overdoing it. And he goes off and rattles off
Speaker 12: like twenty something kicks in a row. So there is
Speaker 12: a balance and the relationship developed kind of lets me
Speaker 12: know kind of how to approach the tough situations for
Speaker 12: sure with the guys. But you got to get to
Speaker 12: know him before before you handle that. So that's a
Speaker 12: part of the coaching job is such a mental game.
Speaker 12: You know that there's tools and there's competitiveness in one
Speaker 12: on ones, but then there's the mindset game that's so
Speaker 12: delicate that you just I think as a coach, you
Speaker 12: just got to get to know the guy.
Speaker 7: Coach.
Speaker 10: We appreciate the time. I hope you like Nashville.
Speaker 12: Been great so far, but I'm still new and uh
Speaker 12: I'm looking forward to, you know, moving in and making
Speaker 12: my community.
Speaker 10: Stay away from Broadway. Other than that, nothing else experience.
Speaker 9: I'm going everywhere.
Speaker 10: Coach, Thanks for the time, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Something else I want to get to here is me
Speaker 3: you and Sarah Walsh. We were on NFL network. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna play this clip and it's like five minutes long,
Speaker 3: and at the beginning, you know, she's tossing the softballs, right.
Speaker 3: But the thing is I can't really hear her.
Speaker 7: I couldn't hear anything, and we.
Speaker 3: Had ear pieces, but they did not work. They were fake,
Speaker 3: that makes sense.
Speaker 7: I think they were fake. I was hearing like radio
Speaker 7: in my ear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was hearing Paul Harvey. That's the
Speaker 3: rest of the story. While we were doing our deal
Speaker 3: and the music was up very loud in the stadium,
Speaker 3: and they were doing play by play of practice, so
Speaker 3: is NonStop talk. So it was so much to take
Speaker 3: in and I couldn't hear her because the seating arrangement
Speaker 3: was Sarah far right, Matt in the middle, me on
Speaker 3: the left, So I'm having to like look across and
Speaker 3: watch her lips, and all I know is that she
Speaker 3: says something about quarterbacks in Nashville and goes to me, so, okay,
Speaker 3: I can go off that camp. And we talked about
Speaker 3: cam wore and until I compare it to other rookie quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: what you'll hear. At the end of this clip, she
Speaker 3: says to me, no idea what.
Speaker 8: I was right next to her and I could hardly hear,
Speaker 8: and I was like, there's no way, no way without
Speaker 8: this year he's working, that Bobby's getting any.
Speaker 3: Of this, heard none of it. So having screwed up
Speaker 3: a bunch and done a bunch of live television, what
Speaker 3: you do is you just go. If you can't hear,
Speaker 3: the worst thing you can do is be like what
Speaker 3: you just go whatever direction that you can go with
Speaker 3: a purpose. So I'm like, I don't know what you
Speaker 3: just said, but here's what I'm seeing. And the problem
Speaker 3: is what I was seeing was and he had a
Speaker 3: really great practice was Treylon Burks, Yes, except like five
Speaker 3: minutes after this segment he breaks his collarbone out for
Speaker 3: the year.
Speaker 7: Then waved, then waved then wave. It was like the
Speaker 7: curse of Bobby Bones.
Speaker 8: Like the guy, the guy, he's gonna have a big year,
Speaker 8: he's gonna come out, he's gonna ball out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then boom boom done. Done for the year.
Speaker 7: Felt bad for that young guy.
Speaker 3: I know he's been injured every year.
Speaker 7: It's like when you play golf, keep your mouth off
Speaker 7: my ball.
Speaker 3: I don't I've never said that.
Speaker 8: You never like when somebody's like, oh, good putt and
Speaker 8: then you just miss it and.
Speaker 3: You're like, I've never heard that saiding like that.
Speaker 6: I like that.
Speaker 7: You know you can use it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. Here we are. This is me,
Speaker 3: Sarah Walsh and Matt.
Speaker 7: Hey Rot.
Speaker 10: We're so happy to be here.
Speaker 4: The Titans are hosting their first and only practice at
Speaker 4: Nissan Stadium, and then they'll go back over the practice facility.
Speaker 4: Brian Callahan told it's just a little while ago. Just
Speaker 4: being in this building or being in this stadium, it
Speaker 4: ups the intensity, obviously, breaks up the monotony. And there's
Speaker 4: two guys that live in Nashville and Bobby I'm going
Speaker 4: to start with you here. This is a franchise that
Speaker 4: has long been looking for a long term solution here
Speaker 4: at quarterback, they get cam Ward number one. Overall, just
Speaker 4: talk to us, as someone who's lived in Nashville now
Speaker 4: for a while, what this guy means, what this opportunity
Speaker 4: means for this city.
Speaker 3: I think anytime you get the number one pick, that's
Speaker 3: exciting for a franchise. It sucks how you got the
Speaker 3: number one pick, but now that you have it, like
Speaker 3: that's cool.
Speaker 10: He gives us here a reason to be excited.
Speaker 3: And I think there's been precedent said to in the
Speaker 3: last couple of years with CJ. Straud with the Texans,
Speaker 3: even jayde Daniels last year, that a rookie quarterback doesn't
Speaker 3: have to come in and just kind of suck your one.
Speaker 3: They can actually do big things if they're trusted upon.
Speaker 3: And I think in Callahan's offense and with cam Ward
Speaker 3: being so great at Miami, like he's dynamic.
Speaker 10: It's not just that he put up numbers. He's dynamic
Speaker 10: highlight clips. And I think that's what the.
Speaker 3: Fans here need, like a reason to see something dynamic
Speaker 3: and have hope that next year is going to be a.
Speaker 4: Change Matt there could be a quarterback competition there is
Speaker 4: I mean they can say that there is, but Will
Speaker 4: Levis now is not going to be available this season,
Speaker 4: so he was the number two here. We've gotten the
Speaker 4: sense from the second that took this guy that he
Speaker 4: was going to be starting Week one. Let's just start
Speaker 4: with mentally, what is this dude? This guy walks out here,
Speaker 4: he's obviously young, it's his rookie season, but he is
Speaker 4: known from the moment that he has stepped on the
Speaker 4: field that this is his team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he knows that this is his team, and that's
Speaker 6: why they drafted and he came here and Brian Callahan
Speaker 6: and talked about it all offseason. He's just been so
Speaker 6: impressed with this leadership. He understands what is being asked
Speaker 6: of him. And I think that they've also done a
Speaker 6: good job with this young quarterback of understanding.
Speaker 9: They got to surround him with talent.
Speaker 6: They've got to go out Calvin Ridley, right, they have
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley, they needed somebody opposite of him.
Speaker 9: They went out and got Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 6: They brought in Van Jefferson, and then they need to
Speaker 6: shure up that offensive line.
Speaker 9: They're able to do that.
Speaker 6: So cam Ward is in a better position to succeed
Speaker 6: than probably most people believe that he did originally coming to.
Speaker 9: The Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 4: We're taking a look at him at practicing. We've watched
Speaker 4: him here. What is going on in his head right now?
Speaker 4: I mean you're trying to absorb so much information. Callahan
Speaker 4: told us today, they're going to be working a lot
Speaker 4: on third down sets and maybe the most important thing
Speaker 4: they're going to do in terms of him being able
Speaker 4: to see different things get him prepared for the season,
Speaker 4: which kicks off with the Broncos. And you and I
Speaker 4: have talked about it. This is not an easy start
Speaker 4: for this Tennessee Titans team. He's going to open with
Speaker 4: the Broncos. He's going to get the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 4: If you're him in this progression of what this career,
Speaker 4: but where is he at right now?
Speaker 6: Well, sometimes your head spinning as a rookie quarterback. I
Speaker 6: don't care who you are, how much time you've had
Speaker 6: in college with different systems, when you come to the
Speaker 6: professional professional in the NFL, what eventually ends up happening
Speaker 6: as you hit that little rut in the road, right
Speaker 6: And it's that mental capacity.
Speaker 9: It's the processing because.
Speaker 6: You're learning and trying to absorb so much and so
Speaker 6: every day is important.
Speaker 7: But what I would do if.
Speaker 6: I'm the coach and I'm the defensive coordinator, I'm going
Speaker 6: to challenge them each and every day, particularly in what
Speaker 6: we call blitzdrill blitztroll is where you show a lot.
Speaker 9: Of different looks.
Speaker 6: You're gonna bring it from all different angles. Because protection
Speaker 6: for young quarterbacks is going to be key. Knowing how
Speaker 6: to protect yourself, get yourself out of trouble, and get
Speaker 6: the ball out of your hands.
Speaker 4: Their team president Chad Branker said that young guys are
Speaker 4: going to have to carry this team. And you hear
Speaker 4: that and I think, guys, what is realistic for the
Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans this year?
Speaker 3: Bobby, Yeah, it's so loud, I can hear nothing except
Speaker 3: I'm watching Calvin Ridley on the screen make freaking plays.
Speaker 3: We're in the middle of global warming here in Nashville,
Speaker 3: and it's extremely loud. But on the screen here, it's
Speaker 3: cool to see Calvin Ridley. It's also cool to see
Speaker 3: Trey long Burk's healthy again, because Traylon Brooks is a dog.
Speaker 3: There's a reason they traded it for him the first round.
Speaker 3: Last couple years have been injury prone.
Speaker 10: He's been heard, but I.
Speaker 3: Think the offense at Tennessee will have a lot of
Speaker 3: YouTube highlights, and that's what the fans need first of all,
Speaker 3: because we.
Speaker 10: Haven't had a winner here in a long time.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure your question was nothing like that, but
Speaker 3: I can hear nothing.
Speaker 10: Because they're so loud.
Speaker 4: Look, he didn't answer my question at all, but that's
Speaker 4: because the podcast is called lots to say. He had
Speaker 4: other things to say. And also to that point of
Speaker 4: it being loud in here, Brian Callian said today they're
Speaker 4: going to work on the silent count, So apparently in
Speaker 4: the stadium just jumps.
Speaker 10: Want to hear what I just jumped off side, It's
Speaker 10: not the.
Speaker 3: Matter, lent count day.
Speaker 6: Crank up the music, crank up the sound. Make sure
Speaker 6: everybody's operating mentally focused.
Speaker 9: While we were off sides.
Speaker 3: On that point, they're doing practice play by play over
Speaker 3: our head too, which I've never quite heard before.
Speaker 10: But yeah, super exciting here in Nashville.
Speaker 4: Lots to say, They got more to say. You can
Speaker 4: listen to it on the podcast.
Speaker 3: Rest And now we're going to go over to and
Speaker 3: I missed this, but you got to talk with cam Orrick.
Speaker 3: We did, and so we'll play this and then I
Speaker 3: ask some questions about Cam once this is over.
Speaker 10: Are excited to be here, Cam.
Speaker 14: It's fun to watch practice today.
Speaker 3: I want to start first of all the big throws.
Speaker 14: We'll get to all the other topics, but walk me
Speaker 14: through the big throw down the field, a big touchdown
Speaker 14: to to Ridley today.
Speaker 5: Look close, scrambling drill. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 5: real play. Might have been a sack. Got to see
Speaker 5: it on film. But that's just meeking quality, working on
Speaker 5: my guys, them, letting them, letting them know how I
Speaker 5: think in Scramma dril. So it's good that we have
Speaker 5: to get one of those plays.
Speaker 9: Camp.
Speaker 6: From an install standpoint, I know that every day there's
Speaker 6: probably an emphasis talk to us about your processing ability
Speaker 6: and learning this offense, and every day some new reality
Speaker 6: comes up that you're trying to learn.
Speaker 5: Uh, just get used to the terminology. It's not different
Speaker 5: from college and stand up routes and concepts everything.
Speaker 9: It's all the same.
Speaker 5: Just getting used to the NFL terminology, to formations, and
Speaker 5: they also just staying the long play called the third down,
Speaker 5: play calls the cans that checks out to mate. But
Speaker 5: I mean it's been fun. I've been getting bet every day.
Speaker 5: I'm running something new every day. I got a good
Speaker 5: group of guys around me, the offensive line, wid receiving, corner,
Speaker 5: running back, so i'mxcided to see.
Speaker 7: What we can do well.
Speaker 14: I talked to a bunch of coaches and a bunch
Speaker 14: of personnel guys, and the one thing they said that
Speaker 14: stood out to me was they can't beat you into
Speaker 14: the office. What time are you getting in the facility
Speaker 14: every day, and who have you been bringing with you?
Speaker 5: I get there, I get there about five thirty. Just
Speaker 5: the process what I need to do to try to get,
Speaker 5: you know, be able to play my best ball in
Speaker 5: a couple weeks, and then just also getting my receivers
Speaker 5: up there. Really, He's always up there, Emily can Chimney's
Speaker 5: always up there with shovels up there. We got so really,
Speaker 5: all the young guys, we really stay up there because
Speaker 5: you know, we're behind the eight ball. We're playing a
Speaker 5: game seven year and ten year events, and we got
Speaker 5: to be ready to play from day one.
Speaker 9: So I'm excited though.
Speaker 5: That's why we have emphasis on getting there, learning everything,
Speaker 5: and you know, just trying to get bet every day.
Speaker 6: Cam Where's that leadership quality come from, because you know,
Speaker 6: you come in you're gonna be the face of this
Speaker 6: franchise for a long period of time.
Speaker 11: But it's got to be something that you.
Speaker 6: Grew up as a born leader, right But at the
Speaker 6: same time to come into a new group of grown
Speaker 6: men in the professional setting, where does that leadership come from?
Speaker 5: And you're I just think just understanding your teammates, learning
Speaker 5: more about them, where they're from, their background, how they
Speaker 5: get to this point because I had a different journey
Speaker 5: to get into it. You know where I am now,
Speaker 5: and I just think I don't separate from what the
Speaker 5: outside world sees the quarterback position as to what our
Speaker 5: position as is on the team. That's really being a
Speaker 5: good teammate, leading guys when you need to, and also
Speaker 5: not being a selfish player. We have a locker room
Speaker 5: full of unselfish players. Who are they want to do
Speaker 5: is way? And I'm sorry that I'm about the team.
Speaker 9: Etcter.
Speaker 2: You have a veteran offensive line, you go.
Speaker 14: Out and get a guy like Kevin Zitler, You go
Speaker 14: out and get Dan Moore. Have guys who've been in
Speaker 14: this league for quite a while.
Speaker 5: I'm really excited and they hold me to a hogh standard,
Speaker 5: and I'm holding up to Houstin as well. But I
Speaker 5: mean guys like Kevin and Dan, they teach me little
Speaker 5: things even when they don't think.
Speaker 9: They teach me something.
Speaker 5: They played football for a longer period than I am,
Speaker 5: and I just gotta I gotta learn stuff on the floor.
Speaker 5: I gotta learn stuff as fast as they did when
Speaker 5: they first got into the league. But I'm decided that
Speaker 5: you know the GM, Mr Mike, and you know missus Chattan,
Speaker 5: this's day surrounding me around guys like that to help
Speaker 5: me with my journey.
Speaker 11: And talk to us about your wide receiver room.
Speaker 6: Obviously Calvin Ridley, who's coming back as your number one,
Speaker 6: but you go out, you get Tyler Locke, and you
Speaker 6: ring a guy like Van Jefferson who's played a lot
Speaker 6: of quality football over his time, and Tyler Tyron Burks
Speaker 6: is coming back and he's a guy that you're hoping
Speaker 6: for big things. But that room looks a lot different
Speaker 6: than what it did in the past.
Speaker 7: We got to unbelieve we receive the corper.
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing we have from when watching
Speaker 5: them last year this year is that we just have
Speaker 5: a lot of speed, special young guys with elk Chim
Speaker 5: when we drafted but Calvalta lock I just think those
Speaker 5: three of the best receivers in the league. They helped
Speaker 5: me just understanding when they need the ball, why they
Speaker 5: eat the ball, and just when and how they get
Speaker 5: in out of breaking breaks. I think the biggest thing
Speaker 5: that I'm learnning from them. We've had to get some
Speaker 5: good work end this summer. Colin today Lockett knowing it
Speaker 5: was covered.
Speaker 11: Two sitting up for me and me hitting him in
Speaker 11: that window. So we learned at each other on the fly.
Speaker 5: But I can for sure say you getting better every day.
Speaker 14: Have you thought about some type of a present for
Speaker 14: Jeffrey Simmons and kind of calm him down a little
Speaker 14: bit on the defensive line, just slowed down just a
Speaker 14: little bit.
Speaker 5: That's that's a big man right there.
Speaker 7: Man like dad.
Speaker 11: We slided his way every time we play him.
Speaker 5: I'm Finna, I'm Finn the running back in the in
Speaker 5: the A gap, and I'm chipping him every time I can.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 5: I mean, j jeff he's a he's a He's an
Speaker 5: ultimate competitor. He's somebody that you know, I wake up
Speaker 5: and I'm ready to get to work, to get to
Speaker 5: work and go get so but it's fun. I never
Speaker 5: played with a defensive lineman that big, who can move
Speaker 5: like him. But I mean, he's the reason why our
Speaker 5: defense is going to be so good. He can pressure
Speaker 5: the quarterback. He's a great team player, he's a great
Speaker 5: locker room guys on the side there, you know.
Speaker 6: Having by myself, I think one of the most important
Speaker 6: relationships for any quarterback is a relationship with their offensive coreator.
Speaker 9: You've got a new offensive coordinator with Nick Colts.
Speaker 6: Talk to me about that process and learning to get
Speaker 6: to know each other and the collaboration that really takes
Speaker 6: place to get to know you as a player.
Speaker 5: Uh, just good. I think the first time me finally
Speaker 5: being in coach hose, just throughout the whole free draft process.
Speaker 11: But to now is that he.
Speaker 7: Really understands me.
Speaker 5: He understands you know, wildlight, certain players. I'm not used
Speaker 5: to doing a five step from Gunn, but I'm starting
Speaker 5: to love now, especially getting the balled out on Tom
Speaker 5: getting to early. Hey, I think does Coach Hols, you know,
Speaker 5: Coach Callaha and coach vote quarterback coach, They're gonna really dillard.
Speaker 11: Up for us this year last one.
Speaker 14: As we wrap it up, look at the two of us,
Speaker 14: Me and Mass sweating like crazy. You don't have a
Speaker 14: beat of sweat on you know, how is that here possible?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm from Texas, lovely like Texas hot our
Speaker 5: here playing on from the South. So I'm glad I
Speaker 5: was able to stay in the South and being Tennessee.
Speaker 14: Camp Woard's prepared. He's prepared for the weather, He's prepared
Speaker 14: for what's going on out there.
Speaker 2: On the field. Thanks buddy, the Starry appreciate you.
Speaker 3: They got to sit with Cam Wore there. I don't
Speaker 3: know what were your takeaways after meeting him.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's very mature, He's got a great grasp
Speaker 8: of who he is.
Speaker 7: He's confident. You could tell that right away.
Speaker 8: He talked about his leadership, he talked about this transition
Speaker 8: into the pros, and you could tell like there's something
Speaker 8: about him. He's got some moxie to him. He's a
Speaker 8: natural leader, and I'm excited for the young man. I
Speaker 8: think he knows that this season is going to be
Speaker 8: one of those that they're still rebuilding. But it's he's
Speaker 8: got the keys of the car right. He knows that
Speaker 8: he's the franchise. He knows that he's the face of
Speaker 8: this franchise and that it's going to be an uphill battle.
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I think he embraces that,
Speaker 8: understands it. And you look at the history of what
Speaker 8: he went through in his college career, going to JC,
Speaker 8: going to Washington State, having to prove himself every step
Speaker 8: along the way, and then to get that shot at
Speaker 8: Miami become the number one draft pick. He understands what
Speaker 8: it's going to take, and I don't think he's phased
Speaker 8: by any of it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna come back. We're going to talk about I
Speaker 3: have questions about Caleb Williams and Bears Camp. We'll do that.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about the Hall of Fame. And I bought
Speaker 3: something that came in the mail today and I'm curious
Speaker 3: if you have one of these, We'll do all that.
Speaker 3: On the other side of this, I got a package
Speaker 3: from Amazon today and it was very long. It looked
Speaker 3: like golf clubs. It was that long of a box. Okay,
Speaker 3: so you can picture it, And I'm like, what did
Speaker 3: I order that's long like that? Because I knew I
Speaker 3: didn't order a single golf club. I knew I didn't
Speaker 3: order golf clubs.
Speaker 7: You order golf clubs of famous.
Speaker 3: No, well it looked like that title. I was just asking,
Speaker 3: I've ordered like a one of those weighted ones, like
Speaker 3: the ball you swing to get loose. Yeah, so no,
Speaker 3: but no, because I've been lucky enough to have like
Speaker 3: sponsorship deals. I'm not even not gonna a golfer, but
Speaker 3: can I get some of that? I think I will
Speaker 3: sponsor you. I will sponsor you. So I open it up,
Speaker 3: and I forgot that I had bought this also. I
Speaker 3: didn't know it'd come this long. But I bought one
Speaker 3: of those big, long wooden things you put over your
Speaker 3: bathtube and you take a bath, so you can work
Speaker 3: while you take a bath.
Speaker 8: Are you a big bath guy, big bath guy, big
Speaker 8: bath guy, bath guys, depending.
Speaker 3: On what you really Yeah, because if something's wrong with me,
Speaker 3: epsin sauce, for sure. If nothing's wrong with me, because
Speaker 3: epsin sauce sometimes in the bath bomb or the bubbles
Speaker 3: don't mix. Well, okay, the chemistry doesn't work. Big bath guy,
Speaker 3: big bath guy. And so I bought me a new
Speaker 3: It holds like my computer. I can stand in the longer,
Speaker 3: I can like watch some tiktoks. Yeah, you have bath
Speaker 3: guide all.
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 8: This is the God's honest truth. Because I wasn't feeling
Speaker 8: great this last week. I took my first first bath
Speaker 8: in about five years, just because I had like the shivers,
Speaker 8: wasn't feeling good.
Speaker 7: I was like, it was relaxing.
Speaker 3: You enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: It was relieving. Yeah, but I couldn't say that I'm
Speaker 7: a bath guy. I probably don't have time for that.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't either. But you make time for
Speaker 3: things you love. And you know what, I love a bat.
Speaker 3: You love a good bath, and I can't.
Speaker 7: Just like my seven year old daughter.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we probably are many ways.
Speaker 7: Do you have like little Barbies and duckies in there too?
Speaker 3: It depends am my bath bombing it or my EPs
Speaker 3: in salting it? Barbiees is bath bomb got it? EPs
Speaker 3: and salts like sore muscles.
Speaker 7: Muscles have been working hard.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, about happenings. Because I'm hurt right now,
Speaker 3: I have a muscle or a physical therapist coming over. Okay,
Speaker 3: any injury that I get at this point in my life,
Speaker 3: I just live with it. I just assume it's going
Speaker 3: to be there the rest of his life.
Speaker 7: Man, that's a bad way to go through thet.
Speaker 3: Like I heard my ankle tor from cartilage my ankle
Speaker 3: like a year ago. Doctors like, it's never going to heal.
Speaker 7: You can just it'll never heal.
Speaker 3: Carlage is gone.
Speaker 7: I mean, what a bad doctor.
Speaker 8: Well no, hope, I messed some bedside manner to you,
Speaker 8: for God's sake.
Speaker 3: Messed up my shoulder.
Speaker 7: To use it, never going to use it. Can't swing
Speaker 7: a pickleball.
Speaker 3: Tweaked my back in a pickleball tournament. It hurts, yes,
Speaker 3: And now I just assume my back is always going
Speaker 3: to be hurting the rest of my life.
Speaker 8: Did you, like, are you one of those guys that
Speaker 8: have to go, like, get the MRI, maybe a cat scan.
Speaker 7: Figure it out right away.
Speaker 3: I'm the guy that puts it off. As a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, I was playing in this tournament and I hurt.
Speaker 3: I felt it, and I fell on my knee and
Speaker 3: I cut my knee up. But this dude was talking
Speaker 3: so much garbage and he was cheating, and so I
Speaker 3: was like, screw this. I was down a point or so,
Speaker 3: and I knew I needed to stop playing or it
Speaker 3: was gonna get worse. But I could not quit until
Speaker 3: I won that and beat that guy. Wasn't about the match,
Speaker 3: It's about beating that year I did. I beat him
Speaker 3: and then I had to retire from the tournament after that.
Speaker 3: But I think I heard it worse by continuing to play.
Speaker 3: But I would do it again. That dude was cheating
Speaker 3: his face off.
Speaker 7: So when you say cheating, are you calling your own points?
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what I was doing.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I looked at him, and I think I told
Speaker 3: the story. I said, are you doing a bit? But
Speaker 3: I have a physical therapist coming over to day to
Speaker 3: work on my back and then I plan to get
Speaker 3: back in the bath with my brand new back in
Speaker 3: the bath, my my bath desk. Yeah, desk anybody out there,
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude. If you don't have a bath desk,
Speaker 3: you ain't living.
Speaker 7: You ain't living.
Speaker 8: And it's and it's specifically for taking baths and to
Speaker 8: do desk work on and desk work, that's right. And
Speaker 8: if you do or so you do more desk work
Speaker 8: on there, you're actually watching Netflix or what.
Speaker 3: I don't watch Netflix there, but I do. I'll do
Speaker 3: some tiktoking, you'll do some TikTok. I some tiktoking, and
Speaker 3: I will work a little bit, but it's how I
Speaker 3: manage my time to get in the same place. If
Speaker 3: you decide you want to be more of a bath guy,
Speaker 3: I have the perfect bath desk and I will I
Speaker 3: will get you one.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that you just let me know. I still
Speaker 7: know if I'm going to go down that path yet
Speaker 7: you may not. But you're gonna have to tweak a
Speaker 7: few things.
Speaker 3: I am the expert you call you are. I have
Speaker 3: questions about quarterbacks. I ask you if you have a
Speaker 3: questions about bats, I'm going to hit you up. Yes.
Speaker 7: Now, speaking of.
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, I've been watching just through clips and reading about it,
Speaker 3: especially from the local beat writers about the Bears camp
Speaker 3: and Kayleb Williams, and obviously Ben Johnson is there now
Speaker 3: as the head coach, who is the offensive coordinator in Detroit,
Speaker 3: and apparently Kayleb Williams is struggling. They even gave Caleb
Speaker 3: Williams I said they Ben Johnson, the offensive staff gave
Speaker 3: a bunch of homework before camp because he struggled at Ota.
Speaker 3: Is a bit how common is that for a quarterback
Speaker 3: with a entire new philosophy to struggle at this part
Speaker 3: of the year. Is it much ado about nothing?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there is obviously a process to this
Speaker 8: whole deal, and it's probably even when you listen to
Speaker 8: Ben Johnson's comments and some of the pressers, he's like,
Speaker 8: this is brand new terminology. We're putting more on his plate,
Speaker 8: and right now they're going to continue to push him
Speaker 8: and see how far he can elevate, how much he
Speaker 8: can take in, how much he can process now, because
Speaker 8: then you can always pull back. But until you expose
Speaker 8: him to the entirety of that playbook, then you'll never
Speaker 8: know what he's capable of. Now, you can take the
Speaker 8: baby step approach where it's, hey, we're going to start
Speaker 8: really slow and just kind of introduce common concepts. But
Speaker 8: if Ben Johnson knows that that offense is going to
Speaker 8: operate at its best, it's going to have the motions,
Speaker 8: the pre staff shifts, it's going to have the elaborate,
Speaker 8: sophisticated layers to it that they want Caleb William to
Speaker 8: be able to retain and understand why they're doing it.
Speaker 8: So I understand why there's going to be struggles because
Speaker 8: even when I got to New England and I was
Speaker 8: a rookie quarterback coming in learning a new terminology.
Speaker 7: That I thought was sophisticated. But there was a lot
Speaker 7: of check with me.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of two plays in the huddle getting
Speaker 8: to the right, but you're also shifting during those you're
Speaker 8: using double cadence, and that's probably more than he's ever
Speaker 8: done in his entire career. So it's a learning curve,
Speaker 8: and it's a steep learning curve. But I think what
Speaker 8: Ben Johnson's really do and is pushing him to try
Speaker 8: to see how much he can take in because they
Speaker 8: can always pull back.
Speaker 3: He may need a bath desk.
Speaker 8: He made me need a bath desk in the computer
Speaker 8: so he can go through it.
Speaker 3: So while he's in the bath, he can still So
Speaker 3: you guys are like, oh, you take baths. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: you're doing two things at once. He's a little little
Speaker 3: aps and salt, a little bath desk.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Watch the place, watch the place. Rehearse the place. I mean,
Speaker 8: every time I went into a new offense. It's the
Speaker 8: funniest thing because I used to have my wife literally
Speaker 8: goes down the play sheet and give me the calls
Speaker 8: so that I would rehearse saying them out loud because
Speaker 8: There's something to be said about knowing the terminology but
Speaker 8: then visualizing it. And when sometime when you're in a
Speaker 8: new system and even you hear the play call coming
Speaker 8: to your helmet, you don't always process that. You're just
Speaker 8: regurgitating what you're hearing. So you have to practice those.
Speaker 8: As small as that sounds, it makes all the difference
Speaker 8: in the world to go into a huddle and have
Speaker 8: confidence and be able to visualize that play and say
Speaker 8: it confidently.
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. We got four members going in. Antonio Gates.
Speaker 3: First thing that comes to mind, Antonio Gates, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go basketball player, because that's all they used to say.
Speaker 3: Now that's been done a couple of times, like Jimmy
Speaker 3: Jimmy Graham was a basketball player. Those guys have happened before.
Speaker 3: But for me, Antonio Gates basketball player that turned into
Speaker 3: a tight end. He was extremely dominant, but he was
Speaker 3: just so much taller than everybody too.
Speaker 8: I mean, he was dominant and he never looked like
Speaker 8: he was running extremely fast, but nobody could cover this
Speaker 8: guy within that five to ten yard range, and then
Speaker 8: he would explode out and just get open down the field.
Speaker 7: He had a great feel.
Speaker 8: Obviously Hall of famer, and we've played against him a
Speaker 8: bunch when I was with the Chiefs, and I used
Speaker 8: to just throw fits on the sideline anytime it was
Speaker 8: clutch time, third down.
Speaker 7: Philip rivers would just find him over. You could try
Speaker 7: to double them.
Speaker 3: Doing it, and I knew they were going on well,
Speaker 3: you knew they were going to him.
Speaker 7: He had sure hands catch everything. Just a freak of nature.
Speaker 3: Jared Allen your boy.
Speaker 7: I'm going actually, I'm going up this my new friend.
Speaker 7: Really yeah, he I got invited two.
Speaker 8: Jared Allen's having something after and so obviously we played
Speaker 8: together at Minnesota. Good friend of mine. I'm going to
Speaker 8: go up and celebrate him this week, and so it'll
Speaker 8: be fun.
Speaker 3: That's super cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Eric Allen. Do you ever play against Erek Allen?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 8: I did not, Yes, I did it play against Eric Allen?
Speaker 8: Great player as well.
Speaker 3: Did you play with them at all?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: Fifty four career interceptions, that's a.
Speaker 7: Lot of a lot of interceptions.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of interceptions. And then Sterling Sharp.
Speaker 7: Way before you, way before me.
Speaker 3: And I remember Sterling Sharp as a young kid because
Speaker 3: that was Farv's dude in the first generation FARV that
Speaker 3: I remember. Sterling Sharp was a dude.
Speaker 7: Sterling Sharp was the dude bighead. Did you yeah, good player?
Speaker 3: No? No, fine, fine player, fine player, talked a lot,
Speaker 3: smoked a lot of cigars.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But Sterling Sharp gets in six hundred catches, different time, though,
Speaker 3: different time. Five time pro bowler, NFL All Decade Team
Speaker 3: of the nineties. Now, those are the four going in.
Speaker 3: Have you seen the list of the folks that are eligible,
Speaker 3: because I want to read you some of these and
Speaker 3: you tell me, well, let's pick who we think should
Speaker 3: go in. Okay, Now, I think the rule is minimal
Speaker 3: for maximum eight, right.
Speaker 8: I think that they went four too because they had
Speaker 8: the year after COVID, right where they had a bunch
Speaker 8: go in like full eight.
Speaker 3: That you mean this year for yeah, yeah, So why
Speaker 3: don't we do six? Let's just do it in the middle.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough because i'll read you someone and
Speaker 3: you can say absolutely yes, or we'll come back to them.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 3: Drew Brees absolutely yes, absolutely yes, put him down, absolutely yes.
Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald absolutely yes, absolutely yes, agree, Jason Witten absolutely yes. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back to Jason Whitton. I think it's
Speaker 3: yes too, but I purposefully didn't go to the whole
Speaker 3: list because I wanted to play with you as I
Speaker 3: read them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Come back to Jason Witten.
Speaker 7: I played with I played with Witt. Yeah, gotta love
Speaker 7: I mean, I love that guy.
Speaker 3: Really why just a.
Speaker 8: Unbelievable professional, but a guy that had played with grit,
Speaker 8: great leader, played hurt. I mean, he tells the story
Speaker 8: where he had his jaw like full on, had to
Speaker 8: get realigned and had to go see the special doctor
Speaker 8: and came out still made it out for opening day.
Speaker 8: He played with me with cracked ribs and he had
Speaker 8: fluid in his lungs and then we were at the
Speaker 8: end of the season. Game didn't matter. Should have protected himself.
Speaker 8: No was out there on Thursday practice, got his lung
Speaker 8: drain like just a guy that could get open in
Speaker 8: a phone booth, understood how to play the position, could
Speaker 8: block at the end of the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 7: Just an absolute stud.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I've now switched. I'm now a Yes. After that,
Speaker 3: he just gave me the one one for the Gipper speech.
Speaker 3: You're a sponsor now is does he live here?
Speaker 7: He's in Texas, got it. There were rumors that he
Speaker 7: was going to come coming.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I wondered if you Yeah, Okay Frank Gore,
Speaker 3: He's a yes for me too, so I'm going to
Speaker 3: come back. Frank Gore extremely dominant, but played a long, long,
Speaker 3: long time and what he played eighteen seasons And sometimes
Speaker 3: people will devalue the link to someone's career, But do
Speaker 3: you know how hard it is that you do? But
Speaker 3: I'm saying it is very hard to stay healthy. Yes,
Speaker 3: Like there's as much much upkeep in work at staying
Speaker 3: healthy as there is being great, especially at running back. Yeah, Edelman.
Speaker 7: Not yet?
Speaker 3: Okay, Olsen, do you think his career has been helped
Speaker 3: by what he's been able to do at a high
Speaker 3: level after the game, because I think he's probably not
Speaker 3: there in this class.
Speaker 7: But I how many were you taking in this class? Six?
Speaker 3: I think we have three so far, and I think
Speaker 3: but his profile and that does it sho, but it
Speaker 3: does count.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But also his stats speak for themselves.
Speaker 3: Like guy was dominant, he also played at times for
Speaker 3: a team that was not good, right with the Panthers.
Speaker 7: Which sometimes makes you overlook how great he.
Speaker 3: Was, the same thing has happened with Keighley. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he is probably one of the greatest linebackers to ever
Speaker 3: play football. But I think people at times don't have
Speaker 3: the full understanding of how Greaty was because at times
Speaker 3: he played with the Panthers.
Speaker 8: He played with the Panthers. Panthers, And the other thing
Speaker 8: is his career was shortened because of injury. Lashawn McCoy, Mmm,
Speaker 8: he's on the cuss for me too, Bryant. No, okay,
Speaker 8: I'm with you. Still three for sure, unless you put
Speaker 8: Gore in there.
Speaker 3: For sure, you can come back to Gore. Uh uh.
Speaker 7: Marquise Pouncy gosh, how many years did he play?
Speaker 3: Years? I don't know, but I think I would put
Speaker 3: him in.
Speaker 8: Really and s I mean, all these guys have you
Speaker 8: can make an argument for all these guys. I think
Speaker 8: the thing the hard part for offensive lineman is they're
Speaker 8: not as visible. That's the yes, the fact that we
Speaker 8: know who he is, Yeah, that you know who Marquis
Speaker 8: Poncey is. How many Another thing is how many Super Bowls,
Speaker 8: sacks given up, whatever it might be. That kind of
Speaker 8: comes into play when you're talking about offensive line.
Speaker 7: Eleven years, eleven years?
Speaker 3: Uh, Okay, I'm gonna I'll come back. Philip Rivers.
Speaker 7: Oh, he's another guy.
Speaker 3: Only have two more? Well one more, and then we
Speaker 3: can go and insert three others. Uh, Steven Goskowski? Who Goskowski?
Speaker 3: Who didn't get in this this year?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: M But I thought he would have got in this year.
Speaker 3: But he's he's also on the list. Did you play
Speaker 3: with I didn't. Stephen was with me for three years
Speaker 3: in New England. So we have to pick three from Gore,
Speaker 3: Lashawn McCoy, Pouncey, Rivers, Gaskowski.
Speaker 8: All right, I'm gonna go with Gore. Graskowski played a
Speaker 8: long time. He had what how many super Bowl championships?
Speaker 7: Did he have four?
Speaker 3: That's a that's a Kevin question.
Speaker 7: No, he was. He was posted the first three, so
Speaker 7: he's at least has three.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Pouncey for sure, So that'd be my fourth.
Speaker 3: You know what, you can convince me on Gore, that'd
Speaker 3: be on my five.
Speaker 7: Hey, this is a tough less man.
Speaker 3: And Gus Kalski, I'm gonna go him to I think
Speaker 3: he should have got in last year. He's got three
Speaker 3: three super bowls?
Speaker 7: Is Venetia already in the Yeah?
Speaker 3: He went this year.
Speaker 7: This last year, last year, Yes, sorry, that's right.
Speaker 3: This year I went to the NFL Honors and he
Speaker 3: was there being honored for getting in it.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, he's all Jack now right, Oh yeah, Oh.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh yeah, he's like a big weightlifting guy.
Speaker 7: Peptides for sure.
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't, maybe you don't put six in.
Speaker 7: I'll go Steven for sure.
Speaker 8: I know Steven, and dude, the guy is rock solid,
Speaker 8: kicked as efficiently and effectively for as good as anybody
Speaker 8: for his duration.
Speaker 7: Of his career.
Speaker 3: Okay, then who do you think, without your personal opinion
Speaker 3: or bias, who do you think for sure gets in?
Speaker 7: I think the top three that we said.
Speaker 3: So Breeze for sure, Fitzgerald for sure, and.
Speaker 7: I don't think that if they I don't think they'd
Speaker 7: take another quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think Written to me is about eighty five percent center.
Speaker 3: I think he gets in.
Speaker 7: I think Witten is another one witting to me, he's
Speaker 7: going in.
Speaker 3: So Breeze, Fitzgerald and Whitten where universally those guys are in.
Speaker 7: And then I think Frank Worr is going in.
Speaker 3: Man, you almost have to permit for being that active
Speaker 3: for that long at a high level for that long
Speaker 3: sixteen years, and the high level thing is important. You
Speaker 3: can't just be that active for that long and get
Speaker 3: in or would be the hall of being Well, well, I'm.
Speaker 8: Sure he's got a million different stats, how many thousand
Speaker 8: yard seasons, everything else that go along with it.
Speaker 3: It's a good class, good class. I think it's a
Speaker 3: good class, really good class. What are you going to
Speaker 3: do to pict yourself? Just go lay, take a bath.
Speaker 8: I'm probably going to take multiple guys Jared all party,
Speaker 8: go to Jared Allen's party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get so you can get back at it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it'll just get back on the horse.
Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta gotta get ride that horse. Get well
Speaker 3: so you can get I get bucked off.
Speaker 7: But you know what, little hair of the dog.
Speaker 3: Hey, Now, I was gonna see if you're going to
Speaker 3: play golf on Thursday, but I think you just need
Speaker 3: a hill up.
Speaker 7: It's my wife's birthday on Thursday. Baby, I'm asked.
Speaker 3: Them to play golf. I don't know anywhere from two
Speaker 3: to seventy times. I'm not sure. It's aways a family
Speaker 3: and so well, when you have five kids and a wife,
Speaker 3: it's always my yes.
Speaker 8: But it was my way it is my wife's birthday,
Speaker 8: it would be kind of hard bread.
Speaker 7: Then. I love you so much.
Speaker 3: I always want to say, get your mouth off my
Speaker 3: balls out there. So all right, all right, that's it.
Speaker 3: I hope you feel better.
Speaker 7: No, thank you.
Speaker 8: I'm already feeling better just seeing you and knowing that
Speaker 8: a bath is my way to healing.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 3: No, it literally is it is? You think I'm kidding.
Speaker 7: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going I'm going to give you a listen
Speaker 3: as someone who speaks for a living every day for
Speaker 3: at times for seven or eight hours a day. Right,
Speaker 3: this is my this is my instrument.
Speaker 7: That's your instrument.
Speaker 3: So if you do some like I guess they don't
Speaker 3: really do bing gay anymore. Did you have been gay
Speaker 3: back in your day? Oh yeah, okay, now what is
Speaker 3: it? It's like icy hot if you do any of the
Speaker 3: icy hot stuff in the bath. Yeah, it's like times three.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 7: I remember there's stuff called atomic bomb.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that like b A L MBALLM.
Speaker 7: Dude. Did you used to rub it on? It was
Speaker 7: like fire?
Speaker 3: Can you can you get it? Though?
Speaker 7: Now I'm sure you can. They have it in every
Speaker 7: training room.
Speaker 3: But if you take a bath. With that stuff on
Speaker 3: your chest, It's like it lifts the devil out of you.
Speaker 7: I didn't know that you were pre med when you
Speaker 7: went to college.
Speaker 3: I am not. However, I am a doctor.
Speaker 7: I am a doctor.
Speaker 3: I am a doctor. I have a Doctor of Letters
Speaker 3: in the University of Arkansas.
Speaker 7: Did they give that to you? They did? Doctor.
Speaker 3: I'm still if I wanted to call myself doctor doctor.
Speaker 7: I legally could the good doctor mister Bell.
Speaker 3: When I'm on campus, they have to refer to me
Speaker 3: as doctor doctor. It's hilarious. Come on, Yes, I'm an
Speaker 3: honorary doctor, except I could like Bill Cosby.
Speaker 7: I hate to reference him, but he's he.
Speaker 3: He was always doctor William Cosby, and he put that
Speaker 3: in his actual name. But he was just an honorary doctor.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 8: If you're an honorary you can go around floating the
Speaker 8: doctor term have a diploma.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but guys went to I mean people.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not saying a medical doctor for twenty years.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm a medical doctor. But my deeds
Speaker 3: and my service to my stay true have allowed them
Speaker 3: to honorarily give me a doctor. I will not. I
Speaker 3: can't prescribe anything, but I do prescribe. You do some
Speaker 3: icy hot in your chest.
Speaker 7: Icy hot.
Speaker 3: Take it back as sauce. Hey, pleasure back.
Speaker 7: I'm good, I'm Ready're good.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for being here. Thanks to the Titans
Speaker 3: for having us out.
Speaker 7: Hope you have a good.
Speaker 3: Trip this weekend.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 7: Let's go Jered.
Speaker 3: That is Matt Castle. Let's kick off, Kevin. That's Brandon Ray.
Speaker 3: I'm Bobby Bones. We've had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody.
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