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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We Got Lots.

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Speaker 3: Just we got lots.

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Speaker 4: Were here and we hope you say because we got lost.

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Speaker 5: Just say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got lots.

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Speaker 6: Just say.

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Speaker 3: Here's Bobby that hey welcome. You know, sometimes you just

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Speaker 3: go too hard and our guy here just went too hard.

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Speaker 7: I didn't. Yeah, I think Vegas caught up Tony from

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Speaker 7: last week.

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Speaker 3: Vegas always catches up with everybody, and it's a mix

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Speaker 3: because you get out there in that heat and those

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Speaker 3: sand allergies what I call them so dry. It just

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Speaker 8: And my lips were so chapped, and it's almost embarrassing

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Speaker 8: because you guys sit.

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Speaker 7: Down and talk to people and you're going like this,

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Speaker 7: You're like, don't like your lips again, don't like.

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Speaker 3: And it also feels weird to put on chapstake, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't claim to be the most mass skilling guy ever.

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Speaker 7: I am not.

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Speaker 3: However, putting on chapstick feels like I'm putting on lipstick.

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Speaker 3: It does, and if I do it, I try to

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Speaker 3: do it when no one's looking at me, and so yeah, well.

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Speaker 7: You know what you look good. Yeah, I feel fine. No,

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Speaker 8: I've been up coughing all night, trying to get the

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Speaker 8: same time, you know, you know what's better than chapstick?

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Speaker 8: And I tried this just because it was the only

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Speaker 8: thing that I found in my wife's saying lip bomb.

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Speaker 7: They've got like that glossy.

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Speaker 3: Lip bomb that you mightst say, tampons, Well, never tried

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Speaker 7: I thought that would have been interesting.

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Speaker 3: I've had a yes many times. Yeah, And the kind

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Speaker 7: We sure are.

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Speaker 3: Not only that you came back from Vegas went right

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Speaker 3: So we're outside sweating our face off there.

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Speaker 7: Man, it was hot out there, wasn't it was.

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Speaker 3: It was brutal, and so we're going to actually go

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Speaker 3: a training camp first, we'll do us sitting with Ian Rapp,

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Speaker 3: report of the rap Sheet of NFL Network, really one

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Speaker 3: of my favorite insiders, and so let's start with us.

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Speaker 3: I would say backstage, but I guess it's not really

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we're like underneath the stadium because it was

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Speaker 10: Yes, finish your tweet, because you know we see it

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Speaker 9: We see it from the other side, and we're always.

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Speaker 11: Be tweeting it. I'm just I'm just getting ready prepared

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Speaker 7: You're seeing a professor at work.

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Speaker 3: We are at Titans camp today, so if you're watching this,

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Speaker 10: Never came off firstatile in college? Did you ever hold?

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Speaker 6: The wedge is like when you you're the last line

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Speaker 9: Reach you, and you just get blown up.

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Speaker 10: You're sacrificial wedge buster, sacrificial lee.

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Speaker 6: during like now our playoff runt our. First game right

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Speaker 6: and I've worked it, but look when it's storming, you know,

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Speaker 6: I ended up holding throughout the playoffs, go all the

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Speaker 11: Well here here's what's interesting to me. So like holder

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Speaker 11: You get to have like the celebratory handshake or headbutt

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Speaker 11: with the kicker. Oh yeah, maybe they jump into your

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Speaker 11: arms like there's some great moments. But on the off chance,

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Speaker 6: Luckily it was an opener, and I actually they started

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Speaker 6: a year off the next year with me as the holder.

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Speaker 6: First one exactly what you're saying. Came in hot Lonnie

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Speaker 6: Paxson had through a heavy ball and I fumbled it.

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Speaker 6: I yell, so you yell fire right. It was a release,

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Speaker 6: So I'm trying to run outside the pocket. I get

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Speaker 6: It's like hitting me right there.

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Speaker 9: He's like, you're out.

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Speaker 10: I was like, yes, I have a buddy who was

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Speaker 10: To no, he stayed next and had a good season.

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Speaker 9: Oh good for him.

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Speaker 3: They had to have a deep snapper, so I guess,

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Speaker 6: I mean, but that is a tough position, man, because

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Speaker 6: you only get noticed as if you mess up. If

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Speaker 10: And thanks for coming by.

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Speaker 11: How many of these do you see you?

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Speaker 9: Sorry?

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Speaker 11: I thought you were saying goodbye.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's been fine.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 10: For the time. How many of these camps do you do?

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Speaker 11: I think it'll be like sixteen.

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Speaker 10: And do you stay on the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like an artist. You're like a like a

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Speaker 11: No, it's it's I got my suitcase over there. I

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Speaker 11: some washer sheets if you got to wash something in

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Speaker 11: fold where you can go, like stop by before practice,

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Speaker 11: wash all your stuff, pick them up after practice, go right.

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Speaker 11: I go from here, I'm going right to the airport.

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Speaker 11: Like that's what it's like.

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Speaker 10: You're like Green Day and ninety five touring.

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Speaker 11: Just create out the talent, just out the talent.

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Speaker 10: Well, let's talk about a couple of things here.

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Speaker 3: Cam Ord I had mentioned earlier the expectation the last

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Speaker 10: What is the ceiling for cam ord this year.

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Speaker 11: You know, I look at this place and I look

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Speaker 11: probably were a little more stable and had a little

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Speaker 11: more talent than this team, but like not not significant,

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Speaker 11: Daniels can come in and lead that team to the playoffs.

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Speaker 11: Then considering the expectations of cam Wood, considering what I've

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Speaker 11: what they've seen. Like you know, this team will have

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Speaker 11: the chance to win some games, will it. I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Commanders needed a bunch of help too, needed a hell

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Speaker 11: Mary and a lot of stuff. But like, I don't like,

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Speaker 11: I'd be surprised if this team is at least not

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Speaker 11: a lot better than last year.

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Speaker 11: That he's boring?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in recent history, like there's not not any excitement

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Speaker 3: I'll go first. Aaron Rodgers. I watched him throw today

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Speaker 11: I think he wants it, which a lot of people

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Speaker 11: Right, So that's what it's going to be. Like, I

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Speaker 11: I think they could, but it's gonna be a challenge.

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones does this thing mostly preseason. He's

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Speaker 11: It's funny you say that though, because like they're an

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would think so, because like the best thing

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Speaker 3: A little bit better.

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Speaker 11: And like that's how you that's how you have a

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Speaker 11: good special teams. That's how you have good depth. So

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Speaker 3: Last question, most most years is a team that doesn't

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Speaker 11: You know, the Raiders. I think have a chance. They

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Speaker 11: And I think Pete Carroll, you know, based on the

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Speaker 10: And appreciate the time. Another shirt to watching the scene.

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Speaker 10: Yes they're fans.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: All right after we finished with the end. We were

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Speaker 7: You can still make it.

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Speaker 3: Like when I say not big, mostly I just mean

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Speaker 7: But I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Back, right, But I think that part of his game

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Speaker 7: I think he's making people miss.

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Speaker 8: But he's also one of those guys the last two

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Speaker 3: Here he is. I actually loved hanging out with him.

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Speaker 3: Here is Tony Pollard. What happens out there today a

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Speaker 9: Then just let the guy run by.

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Speaker 13: I would say, count, you know, count. Once we get

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Speaker 13: Like today, it's really hard to you know, just to

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Speaker 10: Getting ready for the year.

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Speaker 13: Then you got OTAs, you got mini camp. Then after

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Speaker 10: Ground rolling, Like what do you do for your body?

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Speaker 7: Red light?

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Speaker 10: Cry out, Like what is it? That's what I want

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Speaker 10: You have Cartoon Network totch you on your knee?

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Speaker 7: Is that that?

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Speaker 8: This is?

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Speaker 10: What what else do you have? I see Cartoon Network.

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 10: What started that?

442
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Speaker 9: Actually?

443
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Speaker 13: It was it was I got it when I was

444
00:18:25,975 --> 00:18:28,255
Speaker 13: in Dallas, and uh, that was like, you know, it

445
00:18:28,336 --> 00:18:30,176
Speaker 13: was a big thing going around with guys. We're getting

446
00:18:30,215 --> 00:18:32,576
Speaker 13: you know, the big tattoos and you know, getting put

447
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Speaker 13: down so they could just get it all done.

448
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Speaker 9: Andy want. So that was kind of how.

449
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Speaker 10: Wait did you go to they put you down?

450
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Speaker 9: Like they put you to sleep? I was gonna ask

451
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Speaker 9: you what was paint for one or there?

452
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Speaker 7: You even know?

453
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Speaker 3: I woke They did all that in one Wow.

454
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Speaker 10: How long were you asleep?

455
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Speaker 9: Eighteen hours?

456
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Speaker 13: Yeah, something like that, about about twelve wow, twelve fourteen hours?

457
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Speaker 3: And then you could you take a shower for like

458
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Speaker 3: a week after that? It was a wrapped in cellophane

459
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Speaker 3: because I have something I showered.

460
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Speaker 13: It just was like a yeah, just let the water

461
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Speaker 13: run on the David to I.

462
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Speaker 6: Love watching you play cause I think you're one of

463
00:19:06,016 --> 00:19:08,095
Speaker 6: these dynamic backs that not just can do it as

464
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Speaker 6: a runner, but you take a lot of pride in

465
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Speaker 6: the past game.

466
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Speaker 9: And I saw that.

467
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Speaker 6: You grew up and you actually went to college as

468
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Speaker 6: a receiver, right, and you made that transition to running

469
00:19:18,376 --> 00:19:21,176
Speaker 6: back your junior year. Yeah, talk to me about that

470
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Speaker 6: and was that a tough transition or is that just

471
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Speaker 6: something because of your experience in the return game and

472
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Speaker 6: carrying the ball, that that was an easy transition for you.

473
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Speaker 9: It wasn't tough at all.

474
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Speaker 13: I grew up my whole life playing running back, you know,

475
00:19:32,856 --> 00:19:35,176
Speaker 13: so running back is pretty much it's second nature to me.

476
00:19:35,256 --> 00:19:37,936
Speaker 13: You know, it's natural for me. It was my twelfth

477
00:19:37,936 --> 00:19:40,055
Speaker 13: grade year in high school. That's when I went to receiver,

478
00:19:40,256 --> 00:19:43,256
Speaker 13: my first time playing receiver. Then when I got to college.

479
00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:46,336
Speaker 13: When I came to college, I was I was playing receiver.

480
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Speaker 13: My first coach was justin for wine my red search year,

481
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Speaker 13: and then he left. And then that next year, coach

482
00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:56,416
Speaker 13: Mike Norvel came in and he moved me back to

483
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Speaker 13: running back. And then I would meet with the running backs,

484
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Speaker 13: you know in the meeting rooms and things like that.

485
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Speaker 9: But once we got the practice and we did like

486
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Speaker 9: one on.

487
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Speaker 13: One one as I would go down with the receivers

488
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Speaker 13: and do it all the one on ones with the receivers,

489
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Speaker 13: and like, depending on the weeks, I switch. Sometimes I

490
00:20:12,656 --> 00:20:14,495
Speaker 13: go through the you know, the box reels, you know,

491
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Speaker 13: do the inside run down there with the running back,

492
00:20:17,096 --> 00:20:17,975
Speaker 13: O line, D line.

493
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Speaker 9: Sometimes I go through the one on ones with the

494
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Speaker 9: receivers and.

495
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Speaker 3: Wow, last question, you had three thousand yard seasons in

496
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Speaker 3: a row. When you look at goals, is a yardage

497
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Speaker 3: game based? Yardage season based? Like what are goals for you?

498
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Speaker 13: I want to get better every year, no numbers wise,

499
00:20:36,616 --> 00:20:38,296
Speaker 13: you know, just trying to up the numbers every year.

500
00:20:38,336 --> 00:20:40,776
Speaker 13: You know, I'm I don't feel like I'm on the dcline,

501
00:20:40,816 --> 00:20:43,455
Speaker 13: you know, honestly, I feel like I came in like

502
00:20:43,735 --> 00:20:45,696
Speaker 13: I didn't. I wasn't the normal back that you know,

503
00:20:45,816 --> 00:20:47,896
Speaker 13: get the normal wear and tear to get their body

504
00:20:47,936 --> 00:20:49,535
Speaker 13: beat up my first few years, so I had a

505
00:20:49,656 --> 00:20:52,015
Speaker 13: chance to you know, sit behind a great back, but

506
00:20:52,096 --> 00:20:54,975
Speaker 13: also get a good amount of experience and you know,

507
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Speaker 13: get a feel for the game without just getting my

508
00:20:56,936 --> 00:20:58,416
Speaker 13: body into a beat up. So now I'm at the

509
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Speaker 13: point of where, you know, I feel like I'm I'm

510
00:21:01,136 --> 00:21:02,576
Speaker 13: my prime when I'm ready to keep people.

511
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Speaker 10: I'm trying to appreciate everything the time I.

512
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Speaker 9: Appreciated man, Thank you, You'll get.

513
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Speaker 3: Next up. We talked with Special Teams coordinator Coach Fossil

514
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Speaker 3: aka bones as they call them, which makes sense because

515
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Speaker 3: the fossil is the bone.

516
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Speaker 8: Yes, it does make sense, and he does look like

517
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Speaker 8: a lot of skin and bones.

518
00:21:22,616 --> 00:21:23,975
Speaker 3: He does, but he's very tall.

519
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Speaker 7: He is tall, isn't he?

520
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Speaker 3: And his dad is.

521
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Speaker 7: Who Jim Fossil?

522
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Speaker 3: That's right.

523
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

524
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Speaker 3: Did you know that Kevin?

525
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Speaker 10: I did just because the research I did.

526
00:21:32,176 --> 00:21:33,656
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm glad that you do your research.

527
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Speaker 3: His dad is coach Jim Fossil, so here. He is

528
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Speaker 3: the special teams coordinator for the Titans.

529
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Speaker 6: Coach Fossil so regarded by many as one of the

530
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Speaker 6: best special teams, if not the best special team coach

531
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Speaker 6: in the entire NFL. Coach John Fossil, thank you for

532
00:21:47,975 --> 00:21:49,776
Speaker 6: being with us today on the Bobby Bone Show.

533
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Speaker 9: How was it out there, Bobby Bones back Castle?

534
00:21:53,296 --> 00:21:56,136
Speaker 12: Lots of same Yeah, Hey, anything for a Bones yeah

535
00:21:57,296 --> 00:21:57,896
Speaker 12: and other bones.

536
00:21:59,495 --> 00:21:59,696
Speaker 10: Yeah.

537
00:21:59,975 --> 00:22:03,455
Speaker 6: Talk to me about So you got here, and obviously

538
00:22:03,735 --> 00:22:05,815
Speaker 6: special teams was an issue for this team and you

539
00:22:05,816 --> 00:22:08,696
Speaker 6: probably went and evaluated what's some of the main things

540
00:22:08,696 --> 00:22:10,656
Speaker 6: that you're focused on this year with your units?

541
00:22:10,936 --> 00:22:11,976
Speaker 2: Yeah? Great, call, mat.

542
00:22:12,016 --> 00:22:14,616
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, so I got hot in January

543
00:22:14,696 --> 00:22:17,136
Speaker 12: and I was a new guy, so in OTA's you know,

544
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Speaker 12: I'm introducing and acclimating myself to the guys that we're

545
00:22:20,616 --> 00:22:22,696
Speaker 12: already here. And I watched the little tape and you know,

546
00:22:22,856 --> 00:22:25,016
Speaker 12: last year. I knew some things that happened, the good

547
00:22:25,056 --> 00:22:27,416
Speaker 12: and the not so good. But what I've tried to

548
00:22:27,416 --> 00:22:29,255
Speaker 12: just really work hard on so far in OTA's and

549
00:22:29,296 --> 00:22:32,896
Speaker 12: training camp is just honestly the base fundamentals pump protection,

550
00:22:33,336 --> 00:22:38,455
Speaker 12: block destruction, blocking, penalty free, trying to create a super

551
00:22:38,495 --> 00:22:41,576
Speaker 12: competitive environment where the goal is just make sure, fellows,

552
00:22:41,616 --> 00:22:44,095
Speaker 12: we're winning or one on ones, and here's the tools

553
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Speaker 12: to do that. And if we all do that, then

554
00:22:45,975 --> 00:22:46,936
Speaker 12: we're gonna have good plays.

555
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Speaker 2: But that's what it is.

556
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Speaker 3: Are you ever in the head coach's ear when he's

557
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Speaker 3: debating on what going for that sixty four yarkfield goal?

558
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Speaker 10: Like, I know we got this coach, I know, Like,

559
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Speaker 10: are you a part of that?

560
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

561
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Speaker 12: Yeah, So the last couple of years in Dallas, you know,

562
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Speaker 12: we had a couple of strong lady kickers, especially the

563
00:23:01,056 --> 00:23:03,816
Speaker 12: last two years, and you know, we always come out

564
00:23:04,215 --> 00:23:06,815
Speaker 12: pregame and say, hey, are yard line is the forty

565
00:23:07,056 --> 00:23:08,575
Speaker 12: or the forty one, forty two? We gotta get to

566
00:23:08,576 --> 00:23:10,856
Speaker 12: that yard line for the field goal, and then you

567
00:23:10,856 --> 00:23:12,896
Speaker 12: know it's fourth down or on the forty four yard

568
00:23:12,936 --> 00:23:14,735
Speaker 12: line and I'm like, let's kick a field goal, and

569
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Speaker 12: they're like that's not the why we agreed to, you know,

570
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Speaker 12: and then we kick it remake and I'm like, yeah,

571
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Speaker 12: so it's talked about before, but in game there's always

572
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Speaker 12: a little bit of adjustment. And I always like to

573
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Speaker 12: keep the field goals for points, you know, knowing the

574
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Speaker 12: cost of a miss, but still trying to worry about that.

575
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Speaker 12: Just look at three points on the board and big

576
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Speaker 12: plays and you know, big field goals are a great

577
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Speaker 12: momentum us when the sideline sets, your kicker knock it

578
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Speaker 12: in from sixty three.

579
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Speaker 2: Like it's a big play.

580
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Speaker 6: You've been coaching for a really long time, obviously, there's

581
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Speaker 6: been a lot of rule changes that have taken place

582
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Speaker 6: over your time coaching. Probably the most significant recently is

583
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Speaker 6: the kickoff. Or have you been in favor of that?

584
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Speaker 6: Is that something that you like or is it just

585
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Speaker 6: something that you think that the game has evolved?

586
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I love it, And yeah before it went in

587
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Speaker 12: about a year two before it went in, when the

588
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Speaker 12: XFL started running it and we were kind of like,

589
00:24:01,656 --> 00:24:03,296
Speaker 12: you know, put the fair catch in on kick return.

590
00:24:03,376 --> 00:24:04,016
Speaker 2: We didn't like that.

591
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Speaker 12: So there's a kind of a small committee special teams

592
00:24:06,975 --> 00:24:09,696
Speaker 12: coaches that we're kind of talking with the NFL about well,

593
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Speaker 12: what can we do to make the play safer and better?

594
00:24:12,936 --> 00:24:14,615
Speaker 12: And so we thought we had a good model with

595
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Speaker 12: the XFL used and we kind of tweaked it to

596
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Speaker 12: make it our own.

597
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Speaker 2: But I love it for multiple reasons.

598
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Speaker 12: I think it's a better play, and it's definitely a

599
00:24:21,616 --> 00:24:24,576
Speaker 12: safer play. It's a lot better play to practice because

600
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Speaker 12: you don't have the length of running the high speeder running,

601
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Speaker 12: and the collisions are a little bit lower because it's

602
00:24:30,296 --> 00:24:32,336
Speaker 12: just immediate five yard combat, so.

603
00:24:32,696 --> 00:24:34,455
Speaker 2: It just gets right to the action a lot faster.

604
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Speaker 12: I think the players love it, and as a coach,

605
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Speaker 12: I'm a huge fan of it because it's gonna put

606
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Speaker 12: the ball and play a little bit more and it's

607
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Speaker 12: just it's just action right now. So it's going to

608
00:24:43,455 --> 00:24:45,576
Speaker 12: be really healthy for the league as I think everybody

609
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Speaker 12: kind of grows on it.

610
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Speaker 3: Do you look for different players now, different types of

611
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Speaker 3: players to actually be on let's take the kickoff unit,

612
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Speaker 3: because earlier Matt was talking about being in the wedge.

613
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Speaker 10: In college, you had to be in the wedge.

614
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Speaker 2: And there was a wedge buster, which you put me

615
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Speaker 2: in the wedge.

616
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Speaker 10: But there's no wedge now, right like you're looking for,

617
00:24:59,016 --> 00:25:00,376
Speaker 10: you would not be a wedge guy, but.

618
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Speaker 6: Thank you coach Carrol put in the wedge. And I

619
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Speaker 6: was on kickoff at like number three in my junior

620
00:25:06,056 --> 00:25:08,376
Speaker 6: area and I was like, what, coach, are you evaluating

621
00:25:08,576 --> 00:25:09,536
Speaker 6: evaluating me wrong?

622
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Speaker 9: I don't I don't understand.

623
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Speaker 2: That'd be just practice. I'm sure you any the.

624
00:25:12,296 --> 00:25:14,816
Speaker 3: Same kind of maniacs running down or are you looking

625
00:25:14,816 --> 00:25:15,856
Speaker 3: for a different type of player?

626
00:25:15,896 --> 00:25:17,255
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's a great question.

627
00:25:17,296 --> 00:25:19,616
Speaker 12: And we thought that putting this new kickoff in you

628
00:25:19,616 --> 00:25:22,255
Speaker 12: would need a little different body type, whether it's the bigger,

629
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Speaker 12: longer pass rusher type body that might be kind of

630
00:25:24,936 --> 00:25:28,055
Speaker 12: does away with maybe the smaller, faster penetrator. But as

631
00:25:28,096 --> 00:25:31,016
Speaker 12: we found out over this past year, it still applies

632
00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:34,256
Speaker 12: for everybody. And so you're still at the mercy of

633
00:25:34,296 --> 00:25:37,255
Speaker 12: the forty eight guys you dress on game day, but

634
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Speaker 12: the same body types that were in the old kickoff

635
00:25:40,215 --> 00:25:43,215
Speaker 12: and kickoff return you still use them equally the same

636
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Speaker 12: because there's still strength and weaknesses. There's there's still room

637
00:25:46,416 --> 00:25:49,056
Speaker 12: for the penetrators, uh, and there's definitely still room for

638
00:25:49,096 --> 00:25:51,015
Speaker 12: the big guys that they don't have to run maybe

639
00:25:51,136 --> 00:25:53,656
Speaker 12: like they used to. So It's been a really cool

640
00:25:53,696 --> 00:25:57,016
Speaker 12: evolution over one year to kind of think of what

641
00:25:57,056 --> 00:25:59,455
Speaker 12: we thought was going to be good, and then after

642
00:25:59,495 --> 00:26:01,336
Speaker 12: a year's worth of doing it, like what, it's not

643
00:26:01,416 --> 00:26:03,336
Speaker 12: exactly what we thought. This is a little bit better,

644
00:26:03,376 --> 00:26:06,215
Speaker 12: a little bit of a change. So long answer to

645
00:26:06,256 --> 00:26:08,975
Speaker 12: a simple question is it's built for every body type

646
00:26:09,016 --> 00:26:11,616
Speaker 12: and every player if they got the mindset and kind

647
00:26:11,616 --> 00:26:15,255
Speaker 12: of a little bit of that reckless attitude.

648
00:26:14,936 --> 00:26:16,496
Speaker 2: With a little bit of technique involved.

649
00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:18,296
Speaker 6: You Can you talk about the mindset of these guys

650
00:26:18,336 --> 00:26:20,136
Speaker 6: on special teams because I played with some great ones

651
00:26:20,176 --> 00:26:23,136
Speaker 6: Matthew Slater, Larry Is of some of these guys that were.

652
00:26:23,296 --> 00:26:25,656
Speaker 9: Lifetime special teams. That's how they made their money.

653
00:26:26,696 --> 00:26:29,896
Speaker 6: But it takes a particular mindset and human to run

654
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Speaker 6: down a field full blast, put their body in harm's

655
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Speaker 6: way every single time. Can you talk about how you

656
00:26:36,776 --> 00:26:38,495
Speaker 6: teach that or do you have to find that in

657
00:26:38,536 --> 00:26:40,536
Speaker 6: those guys and how how do you go to the

658
00:26:40,656 --> 00:26:42,336
Speaker 6: head coach and said, we got to keep this guy. Yeah,

659
00:26:42,376 --> 00:26:45,056
Speaker 6: because the value that he adds will be on special teams,

660
00:26:45,056 --> 00:26:47,176
Speaker 6: but that's going to be very valuable going down the road.

661
00:26:47,215 --> 00:26:49,656
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's awesome, So of course I coach special teams.

662
00:26:49,656 --> 00:26:52,776
Speaker 12: I'm super biased, but I just love and have such

663
00:26:52,816 --> 00:26:56,616
Speaker 12: a respect for guys that come in and really embrace

664
00:26:56,696 --> 00:26:59,376
Speaker 12: the role of being on special teams, mostly young guys,

665
00:26:59,455 --> 00:27:01,775
Speaker 12: undrafted guys, you know, middle to the late round picks,

666
00:27:02,136 --> 00:27:04,615
Speaker 12: and just how can I carve out a role on

667
00:27:04,656 --> 00:27:07,455
Speaker 12: the football team, and of course the avenues through special teams.

668
00:27:07,856 --> 00:27:10,856
Speaker 12: But we watch a lot of tape on the best players.

669
00:27:10,856 --> 00:27:13,456
Speaker 12: You know, we watched Chery McMahons, guys don't know about

670
00:27:13,495 --> 00:27:17,096
Speaker 12: Matt Slater, Cody Davis, Jayden Reeves made you know a

671
00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:19,776
Speaker 12: lot of guys that are still active or former. And

672
00:27:19,816 --> 00:27:23,736
Speaker 12: when you watch the best guys, they're not the fastest,

673
00:27:23,776 --> 00:27:25,896
Speaker 12: they're not the biggest, they're not the strongest, they're just

674
00:27:25,975 --> 00:27:27,136
Speaker 12: absolutely relentless.

675
00:27:27,136 --> 00:27:27,775
Speaker 2: Like Matt Slater.

676
00:27:28,056 --> 00:27:30,575
Speaker 12: He was fast, he was agile, he was strong, but

677
00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:32,735
Speaker 12: probably not any of those things. But his motor and

678
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:35,455
Speaker 12: his relentlessness was so different.

679
00:27:35,176 --> 00:27:36,096
Speaker 2: Like how do you stop that?

680
00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:39,976
Speaker 12: And so sometimes that just comes to you and sometimes

681
00:27:40,016 --> 00:27:42,736
Speaker 12: that can be developed, you know, through through some tools

682
00:27:42,735 --> 00:27:46,295
Speaker 12: and some confidence. So love the guys that love the

683
00:27:46,336 --> 00:27:48,136
Speaker 12: game and they come in all shapes and sizes.

684
00:27:48,536 --> 00:27:51,536
Speaker 3: Final question, who are the more interesting kickers you've worked

685
00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:54,056
Speaker 3: with interesting, Like you.

686
00:27:53,975 --> 00:27:57,936
Speaker 7: Know, I'm only yea is.

687
00:27:58,016 --> 00:27:59,455
Speaker 3: I feel like even the ones I've got to know

688
00:27:59,495 --> 00:28:01,656
Speaker 3: even in college, like at times they're set, they separate

689
00:28:01,696 --> 00:28:03,296
Speaker 3: themselves because they need to be separated.

690
00:28:03,735 --> 00:28:06,295
Speaker 10: Who are the more interesting beers he worked with.

691
00:28:06,376 --> 00:28:07,295
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that.

692
00:28:07,656 --> 00:28:09,656
Speaker 12: I've been really lucky to be with some great kickers.

693
00:28:10,336 --> 00:28:14,056
Speaker 12: Probably the most interesting in all great ways with Sebastian Janakowski.

694
00:28:14,256 --> 00:28:16,295
Speaker 12: I was with him for four years and when I

695
00:28:16,296 --> 00:28:17,896
Speaker 12: got there, he might have been like his eighth year,

696
00:28:17,936 --> 00:28:20,576
Speaker 12: so he was already established. But he wasn't, you know,

697
00:28:20,856 --> 00:28:23,775
Speaker 12: probably even halfway through his career. And I learned a

698
00:28:23,776 --> 00:28:26,816
Speaker 12: ton from him, you know, he he was super passionate.

699
00:28:27,336 --> 00:28:30,176
Speaker 12: He was a very big guy, but loved the weight room,

700
00:28:30,336 --> 00:28:34,015
Speaker 12: in the fitness. He didn't overthink anything, and that was

701
00:28:34,096 --> 00:28:36,936
Speaker 12: really I came from Baltimore, was messed over for a

702
00:28:36,975 --> 00:28:40,536
Speaker 12: couple of years, but Sebastian really taught me a lot,

703
00:28:40,576 --> 00:28:42,376
Speaker 12: to be honest with you. And then when you know,

704
00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:44,216
Speaker 12: I went to the Rams, it was Greg Zerlin and

705
00:28:44,216 --> 00:28:46,176
Speaker 12: then you know, Brandon Aubrey and some great kickers and

706
00:28:46,176 --> 00:28:49,016
Speaker 12: now Joey Slide. But Sebastian, maybe just because it was

707
00:28:49,016 --> 00:28:50,936
Speaker 12: one of the first ones I was really around and

708
00:28:51,056 --> 00:28:54,736
Speaker 12: I was a coordinator for was just a very interesting

709
00:28:55,416 --> 00:28:57,456
Speaker 12: man in a lot of great ways, and a great

710
00:28:57,496 --> 00:29:00,576
Speaker 12: football player and one of the best teammates I've been around.

711
00:29:00,736 --> 00:29:03,496
Speaker 2: So shout out to see Bass. He's an all the timer.

712
00:29:03,616 --> 00:29:05,336
Speaker 6: Can I just followed with that, You know, when you're

713
00:29:05,496 --> 00:29:08,056
Speaker 6: dealing with your place kicker and you're you're a kicker

714
00:29:08,096 --> 00:29:11,336
Speaker 6: that's going to win you ballgames, how delicate is that situation?

715
00:29:11,496 --> 00:29:13,696
Speaker 6: Like do you have to learn that personality of when

716
00:29:13,776 --> 00:29:16,576
Speaker 6: to push? And also because it's such a mental game,

717
00:29:16,976 --> 00:29:19,576
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, somebody that's golf standover putt, you

718
00:29:19,576 --> 00:29:21,096
Speaker 6: either get the yips or whatever, and then all of

719
00:29:21,096 --> 00:29:23,856
Speaker 6: a sudden it goes downhill. How do you how do

720
00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:26,496
Speaker 6: you go about navigating that relationship with some of those guys.

721
00:29:26,576 --> 00:29:29,096
Speaker 12: Yeah, now that's cool. I think it's built off of

722
00:29:29,976 --> 00:29:33,416
Speaker 12: trust for sure. And that's a that's a great question

723
00:29:33,456 --> 00:29:35,616
Speaker 12: and a hard answer because if it's a younger guy,

724
00:29:36,016 --> 00:29:39,656
Speaker 12: I think they need some reassurance and some confidence building. Hey,

725
00:29:39,656 --> 00:29:41,376
Speaker 12: come on, man, you know, pick it back up. Some

726
00:29:41,496 --> 00:29:43,576
Speaker 12: of the veteran guys, they don't need to be talked

727
00:29:43,576 --> 00:29:45,336
Speaker 12: too too much. And sometimes the more you say, the

728
00:29:45,696 --> 00:29:47,736
Speaker 12: worst it would be, you know, because they know what

729
00:29:47,776 --> 00:29:49,896
Speaker 12: they did wrong and they don't need to hear about

730
00:29:49,896 --> 00:29:53,496
Speaker 12: it and over analyze what happened. But there is there

731
00:29:53,536 --> 00:29:56,336
Speaker 12: is a balance of the mental part for a kicker.

732
00:29:56,376 --> 00:29:58,456
Speaker 12: Like when we had Brandon Aubrey first year in Dallas

733
00:29:58,456 --> 00:30:00,416
Speaker 12: two years ago, his very first kick of his career,

734
00:30:00,416 --> 00:30:04,376
Speaker 12: he chanks the pat like geez, you know, So he said,

735
00:30:04,376 --> 00:30:06,136
Speaker 12: hey man, you know a little bit wet, you know,

736
00:30:06,216 --> 00:30:07,856
Speaker 12: just keep yourself locked in make sure you swing it

737
00:30:07,896 --> 00:30:10,056
Speaker 12: the next one, And that's kind of the simple message

738
00:30:10,056 --> 00:30:12,496
Speaker 12: without overdoing it. And he goes off and rattles off

739
00:30:12,536 --> 00:30:15,536
Speaker 12: like twenty something kicks in a row. So there is

740
00:30:15,536 --> 00:30:20,416
Speaker 12: a balance and the relationship developed kind of lets me

741
00:30:20,576 --> 00:30:23,496
Speaker 12: know kind of how to approach the tough situations for

742
00:30:23,496 --> 00:30:24,856
Speaker 12: sure with the guys. But you got to get to

743
00:30:24,856 --> 00:30:26,896
Speaker 12: know him before before you handle that. So that's a

744
00:30:26,936 --> 00:30:29,176
Speaker 12: part of the coaching job is such a mental game.

745
00:30:29,216 --> 00:30:31,176
Speaker 12: You know that there's tools and there's competitiveness in one

746
00:30:31,216 --> 00:30:34,696
Speaker 12: on ones, but then there's the mindset game that's so

747
00:30:34,856 --> 00:30:36,736
Speaker 12: delicate that you just I think as a coach, you

748
00:30:36,776 --> 00:30:37,856
Speaker 12: just got to get to know the guy.

749
00:30:38,736 --> 00:30:38,976
Speaker 7: Coach.

750
00:30:38,976 --> 00:30:41,576
Speaker 10: We appreciate the time. I hope you like Nashville.

751
00:30:41,936 --> 00:30:44,056
Speaker 12: Been great so far, but I'm still new and uh

752
00:30:44,136 --> 00:30:46,376
Speaker 12: I'm looking forward to, you know, moving in and making

753
00:30:46,536 --> 00:30:47,536
Speaker 12: my community.

754
00:30:47,176 --> 00:30:51,335
Speaker 10: Stay away from Broadway. Other than that, nothing else experience.

755
00:30:51,496 --> 00:30:52,296
Speaker 9: I'm going everywhere.

756
00:30:52,616 --> 00:30:54,976
Speaker 10: Coach, Thanks for the time, Thank you very much.

757
00:31:10,136 --> 00:31:11,976
Speaker 3: Something else I want to get to here is me

758
00:31:12,576 --> 00:31:15,856
Speaker 3: you and Sarah Walsh. We were on NFL network. I'm

759
00:31:15,856 --> 00:31:18,056
Speaker 3: gonna play this clip and it's like five minutes long,

760
00:31:18,096 --> 00:31:22,056
Speaker 3: and at the beginning, you know, she's tossing the softballs, right.

761
00:31:22,136 --> 00:31:23,896
Speaker 3: But the thing is I can't really hear her.

762
00:31:24,136 --> 00:31:25,815
Speaker 7: I couldn't hear anything, and we.

763
00:31:26,136 --> 00:31:28,856
Speaker 3: Had ear pieces, but they did not work. They were fake,

764
00:31:29,976 --> 00:31:30,656
Speaker 3: that makes sense.

765
00:31:30,896 --> 00:31:33,056
Speaker 7: I think they were fake. I was hearing like radio

766
00:31:33,136 --> 00:31:33,616
Speaker 7: in my ear.

767
00:31:33,736 --> 00:31:36,416
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was hearing Paul Harvey. That's the

768
00:31:36,456 --> 00:31:38,656
Speaker 3: rest of the story. While we were doing our deal

769
00:31:39,496 --> 00:31:42,136
Speaker 3: and the music was up very loud in the stadium,

770
00:31:42,256 --> 00:31:45,296
Speaker 3: and they were doing play by play of practice, so

771
00:31:45,496 --> 00:31:48,976
Speaker 3: is NonStop talk. So it was so much to take

772
00:31:49,056 --> 00:31:52,056
Speaker 3: in and I couldn't hear her because the seating arrangement

773
00:31:52,256 --> 00:31:55,856
Speaker 3: was Sarah far right, Matt in the middle, me on

774
00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:58,056
Speaker 3: the left, So I'm having to like look across and

775
00:31:58,136 --> 00:32:00,376
Speaker 3: watch her lips, and all I know is that she

776
00:32:00,416 --> 00:32:04,616
Speaker 3: says something about quarterbacks in Nashville and goes to me, so, okay,

777
00:32:04,616 --> 00:32:06,656
Speaker 3: I can go off that camp. And we talked about

778
00:32:06,696 --> 00:32:08,855
Speaker 3: cam wore and until I compare it to other rookie quarterbacks,

779
00:32:08,856 --> 00:32:11,056
Speaker 3: what you'll hear. At the end of this clip, she

780
00:32:11,176 --> 00:32:14,536
Speaker 3: says to me, no idea what.

781
00:32:14,896 --> 00:32:16,776
Speaker 8: I was right next to her and I could hardly hear,

782
00:32:16,816 --> 00:32:20,216
Speaker 8: and I was like, there's no way, no way without

783
00:32:20,256 --> 00:32:22,976
Speaker 8: this year he's working, that Bobby's getting any.

784
00:32:22,856 --> 00:32:25,696
Speaker 3: Of this, heard none of it. So having screwed up

785
00:32:25,736 --> 00:32:28,376
Speaker 3: a bunch and done a bunch of live television, what

786
00:32:28,416 --> 00:32:30,456
Speaker 3: you do is you just go. If you can't hear,

787
00:32:30,456 --> 00:32:31,816
Speaker 3: the worst thing you can do is be like what

788
00:32:32,496 --> 00:32:35,016
Speaker 3: you just go whatever direction that you can go with

789
00:32:35,056 --> 00:32:36,575
Speaker 3: a purpose. So I'm like, I don't know what you

790
00:32:36,696 --> 00:32:39,136
Speaker 3: just said, but here's what I'm seeing. And the problem

791
00:32:39,256 --> 00:32:41,856
Speaker 3: is what I was seeing was and he had a

792
00:32:41,896 --> 00:32:45,376
Speaker 3: really great practice was Treylon Burks, Yes, except like five

793
00:32:45,416 --> 00:32:47,936
Speaker 3: minutes after this segment he breaks his collarbone out for

794
00:32:47,976 --> 00:32:48,216
Speaker 3: the year.

795
00:32:48,296 --> 00:32:51,815
Speaker 7: Then waved, then waved then wave. It was like the

796
00:32:51,856 --> 00:32:53,016
Speaker 7: curse of Bobby Bones.

797
00:32:53,056 --> 00:32:56,456
Speaker 8: Like the guy, the guy, he's gonna have a big year,

798
00:32:56,536 --> 00:32:58,096
Speaker 8: he's gonna come out, he's gonna ball out.

799
00:32:58,256 --> 00:33:01,496
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then boom boom done. Done for the year.

800
00:33:02,576 --> 00:33:03,696
Speaker 7: Felt bad for that young guy.

801
00:33:03,736 --> 00:33:05,176
Speaker 3: I know he's been injured every year.

802
00:33:05,376 --> 00:33:07,176
Speaker 7: It's like when you play golf, keep your mouth off

803
00:33:07,216 --> 00:33:07,656
Speaker 7: my ball.

804
00:33:08,536 --> 00:33:09,815
Speaker 3: I don't I've never said that.

805
00:33:09,856 --> 00:33:12,336
Speaker 8: You never like when somebody's like, oh, good putt and

806
00:33:12,336 --> 00:33:13,456
Speaker 8: then you just miss it and.

807
00:33:13,416 --> 00:33:15,536
Speaker 3: You're like, I've never heard that saiding like that.

808
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:15,976
Speaker 6: I like that.

809
00:33:16,056 --> 00:33:16,976
Speaker 7: You know you can use it.

810
00:33:17,016 --> 00:33:19,096
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. Here we are. This is me,

811
00:33:19,336 --> 00:33:20,936
Speaker 3: Sarah Walsh and Matt.

812
00:33:25,296 --> 00:33:25,696
Speaker 7: Hey Rot.

813
00:33:25,736 --> 00:33:26,656
Speaker 10: We're so happy to be here.

814
00:33:26,656 --> 00:33:29,615
Speaker 4: The Titans are hosting their first and only practice at

815
00:33:29,736 --> 00:33:32,976
Speaker 4: Nissan Stadium, and then they'll go back over the practice facility.

816
00:33:33,216 --> 00:33:35,776
Speaker 4: Brian Callahan told it's just a little while ago. Just

817
00:33:35,816 --> 00:33:38,136
Speaker 4: being in this building or being in this stadium, it

818
00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:41,656
Speaker 4: ups the intensity, obviously, breaks up the monotony. And there's

819
00:33:41,696 --> 00:33:43,456
Speaker 4: two guys that live in Nashville and Bobby I'm going

820
00:33:43,496 --> 00:33:46,216
Speaker 4: to start with you here. This is a franchise that

821
00:33:46,296 --> 00:33:49,656
Speaker 4: has long been looking for a long term solution here

822
00:33:50,016 --> 00:33:53,656
Speaker 4: at quarterback, they get cam Ward number one. Overall, just

823
00:33:53,696 --> 00:33:55,896
Speaker 4: talk to us, as someone who's lived in Nashville now

824
00:33:55,936 --> 00:33:58,896
Speaker 4: for a while, what this guy means, what this opportunity

825
00:33:58,976 --> 00:34:00,216
Speaker 4: means for this city.

826
00:34:00,696 --> 00:34:02,335
Speaker 3: I think anytime you get the number one pick, that's

827
00:34:02,376 --> 00:34:04,736
Speaker 3: exciting for a franchise. It sucks how you got the

828
00:34:04,816 --> 00:34:06,936
Speaker 3: number one pick, but now that you have it, like

829
00:34:06,976 --> 00:34:07,456
Speaker 3: that's cool.

830
00:34:07,456 --> 00:34:09,536
Speaker 10: He gives us here a reason to be excited.

831
00:34:09,776 --> 00:34:11,456
Speaker 3: And I think there's been precedent said to in the

832
00:34:11,496 --> 00:34:14,296
Speaker 3: last couple of years with CJ. Straud with the Texans,

833
00:34:14,336 --> 00:34:17,016
Speaker 3: even jayde Daniels last year, that a rookie quarterback doesn't

834
00:34:17,056 --> 00:34:19,656
Speaker 3: have to come in and just kind of suck your one.

835
00:34:19,736 --> 00:34:22,256
Speaker 3: They can actually do big things if they're trusted upon.

836
00:34:22,456 --> 00:34:25,016
Speaker 3: And I think in Callahan's offense and with cam Ward

837
00:34:25,216 --> 00:34:26,936
Speaker 3: being so great at Miami, like he's dynamic.

838
00:34:26,976 --> 00:34:28,896
Speaker 10: It's not just that he put up numbers. He's dynamic

839
00:34:29,496 --> 00:34:31,536
Speaker 10: highlight clips. And I think that's what the.

840
00:34:31,456 --> 00:34:34,256
Speaker 3: Fans here need, like a reason to see something dynamic

841
00:34:34,496 --> 00:34:36,136
Speaker 3: and have hope that next year is going to be a.

842
00:34:36,136 --> 00:34:39,856
Speaker 4: Change Matt there could be a quarterback competition there is

843
00:34:39,936 --> 00:34:41,496
Speaker 4: I mean they can say that there is, but Will

844
00:34:41,576 --> 00:34:43,936
Speaker 4: Levis now is not going to be available this season,

845
00:34:43,976 --> 00:34:46,056
Speaker 4: so he was the number two here. We've gotten the

846
00:34:46,056 --> 00:34:47,856
Speaker 4: sense from the second that took this guy that he

847
00:34:47,936 --> 00:34:50,216
Speaker 4: was going to be starting Week one. Let's just start

848
00:34:50,256 --> 00:34:52,896
Speaker 4: with mentally, what is this dude? This guy walks out here,

849
00:34:52,936 --> 00:34:55,016
Speaker 4: he's obviously young, it's his rookie season, but he is

850
00:34:55,056 --> 00:34:56,616
Speaker 4: known from the moment that he has stepped on the

851
00:34:56,616 --> 00:34:58,136
Speaker 4: field that this is his team.

852
00:34:58,456 --> 00:35:00,136
Speaker 6: Yeah, he knows that this is his team, and that's

853
00:35:00,136 --> 00:35:02,256
Speaker 6: why they drafted and he came here and Brian Callahan

854
00:35:02,336 --> 00:35:04,736
Speaker 6: and talked about it all offseason. He's just been so

855
00:35:04,776 --> 00:35:08,496
Speaker 6: impressed with this leadership. He understands what is being asked

856
00:35:08,496 --> 00:35:10,336
Speaker 6: of him. And I think that they've also done a

857
00:35:10,336 --> 00:35:12,416
Speaker 6: good job with this young quarterback of understanding.

858
00:35:12,416 --> 00:35:13,776
Speaker 9: They got to surround him with talent.

859
00:35:14,056 --> 00:35:16,296
Speaker 6: They've got to go out Calvin Ridley, right, they have

860
00:35:16,336 --> 00:35:18,176
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley, they needed somebody opposite of him.

861
00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:19,496
Speaker 9: They went out and got Tyler Lockett.

862
00:35:19,496 --> 00:35:21,416
Speaker 6: They brought in Van Jefferson, and then they need to

863
00:35:21,496 --> 00:35:22,816
Speaker 6: shure up that offensive line.

864
00:35:22,856 --> 00:35:23,736
Speaker 9: They're able to do that.

865
00:35:23,816 --> 00:35:26,736
Speaker 6: So cam Ward is in a better position to succeed

866
00:35:27,136 --> 00:35:30,056
Speaker 6: than probably most people believe that he did originally coming to.

867
00:35:29,976 --> 00:35:30,776
Speaker 9: The Tennessee Titans.

868
00:35:30,856 --> 00:35:33,176
Speaker 4: We're taking a look at him at practicing. We've watched

869
00:35:33,256 --> 00:35:36,016
Speaker 4: him here. What is going on in his head right now?

870
00:35:36,056 --> 00:35:38,656
Speaker 4: I mean you're trying to absorb so much information. Callahan

871
00:35:38,696 --> 00:35:40,016
Speaker 4: told us today, they're going to be working a lot

872
00:35:40,016 --> 00:35:41,976
Speaker 4: on third down sets and maybe the most important thing

873
00:35:42,176 --> 00:35:43,936
Speaker 4: they're going to do in terms of him being able

874
00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:46,056
Speaker 4: to see different things get him prepared for the season,

875
00:35:46,096 --> 00:35:47,696
Speaker 4: which kicks off with the Broncos. And you and I

876
00:35:47,736 --> 00:35:49,896
Speaker 4: have talked about it. This is not an easy start

877
00:35:49,976 --> 00:35:51,936
Speaker 4: for this Tennessee Titans team. He's going to open with

878
00:35:51,976 --> 00:35:54,656
Speaker 4: the Broncos. He's going to get the Los Angeles Rams.

879
00:35:54,976 --> 00:35:57,496
Speaker 4: If you're him in this progression of what this career,

880
00:35:57,496 --> 00:35:58,816
Speaker 4: but where is he at right now?

881
00:35:59,016 --> 00:36:01,176
Speaker 6: Well, sometimes your head spinning as a rookie quarterback. I

882
00:36:01,176 --> 00:36:03,056
Speaker 6: don't care who you are, how much time you've had

883
00:36:03,096 --> 00:36:05,416
Speaker 6: in college with different systems, when you come to the

884
00:36:05,536 --> 00:36:10,176
Speaker 6: professional professional in the NFL, what eventually ends up happening

885
00:36:10,216 --> 00:36:12,136
Speaker 6: as you hit that little rut in the road, right

886
00:36:12,176 --> 00:36:13,456
Speaker 6: And it's that mental capacity.

887
00:36:13,536 --> 00:36:14,736
Speaker 9: It's the processing because.

888
00:36:14,496 --> 00:36:17,376
Speaker 6: You're learning and trying to absorb so much and so

889
00:36:17,536 --> 00:36:18,896
Speaker 6: every day is important.

890
00:36:19,136 --> 00:36:20,736
Speaker 7: But what I would do if.

891
00:36:20,656 --> 00:36:22,736
Speaker 6: I'm the coach and I'm the defensive coordinator, I'm going

892
00:36:22,776 --> 00:36:24,776
Speaker 6: to challenge them each and every day, particularly in what

893
00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:28,416
Speaker 6: we call blitzdrill blitztroll is where you show a lot.

894
00:36:28,176 --> 00:36:29,016
Speaker 9: Of different looks.

895
00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:31,416
Speaker 6: You're gonna bring it from all different angles. Because protection

896
00:36:31,536 --> 00:36:34,136
Speaker 6: for young quarterbacks is going to be key. Knowing how

897
00:36:34,136 --> 00:36:36,696
Speaker 6: to protect yourself, get yourself out of trouble, and get

898
00:36:36,696 --> 00:36:37,616
Speaker 6: the ball out of your hands.

899
00:36:37,776 --> 00:36:40,816
Speaker 4: Their team president Chad Branker said that young guys are

900
00:36:40,816 --> 00:36:42,736
Speaker 4: going to have to carry this team. And you hear

901
00:36:42,816 --> 00:36:45,536
Speaker 4: that and I think, guys, what is realistic for the

902
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:46,656
Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans this year?

903
00:36:46,696 --> 00:36:49,816
Speaker 3: Bobby, Yeah, it's so loud, I can hear nothing except

904
00:36:49,896 --> 00:36:52,416
Speaker 3: I'm watching Calvin Ridley on the screen make freaking plays.

905
00:36:53,136 --> 00:36:55,136
Speaker 3: We're in the middle of global warming here in Nashville,

906
00:36:55,336 --> 00:36:58,576
Speaker 3: and it's extremely loud. But on the screen here, it's

907
00:36:58,616 --> 00:37:00,576
Speaker 3: cool to see Calvin Ridley. It's also cool to see

908
00:37:00,576 --> 00:37:03,376
Speaker 3: Trey long Burk's healthy again, because Traylon Brooks is a dog.

909
00:37:03,376 --> 00:37:04,936
Speaker 3: There's a reason they traded it for him the first round.

910
00:37:04,976 --> 00:37:06,856
Speaker 3: Last couple years have been injury prone.

911
00:37:06,976 --> 00:37:08,056
Speaker 10: He's been heard, but I.

912
00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:10,016
Speaker 3: Think the offense at Tennessee will have a lot of

913
00:37:10,056 --> 00:37:12,096
Speaker 3: YouTube highlights, and that's what the fans need first of all,

914
00:37:12,136 --> 00:37:12,536
Speaker 3: because we.

915
00:37:12,456 --> 00:37:13,976
Speaker 10: Haven't had a winner here in a long time.

916
00:37:14,296 --> 00:37:15,896
Speaker 3: So I'm sure your question was nothing like that, but

917
00:37:15,936 --> 00:37:16,816
Speaker 3: I can hear nothing.

918
00:37:16,576 --> 00:37:17,616
Speaker 10: Because they're so loud.

919
00:37:17,856 --> 00:37:19,815
Speaker 4: Look, he didn't answer my question at all, but that's

920
00:37:19,816 --> 00:37:22,216
Speaker 4: because the podcast is called lots to say. He had

921
00:37:22,256 --> 00:37:24,776
Speaker 4: other things to say. And also to that point of

922
00:37:24,776 --> 00:37:26,776
Speaker 4: it being loud in here, Brian Callian said today they're

923
00:37:26,776 --> 00:37:29,056
Speaker 4: going to work on the silent count, So apparently in

924
00:37:29,216 --> 00:37:30,416
Speaker 4: the stadium just jumps.

925
00:37:30,816 --> 00:37:32,216
Speaker 10: Want to hear what I just jumped off side, It's

926
00:37:32,216 --> 00:37:32,416
Speaker 10: not the.

927
00:37:32,456 --> 00:37:33,456
Speaker 3: Matter, lent count day.

928
00:37:33,536 --> 00:37:36,256
Speaker 6: Crank up the music, crank up the sound. Make sure

929
00:37:36,336 --> 00:37:38,216
Speaker 6: everybody's operating mentally focused.

930
00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:39,256
Speaker 9: While we were off sides.

931
00:37:39,256 --> 00:37:41,336
Speaker 3: On that point, they're doing practice play by play over

932
00:37:41,376 --> 00:37:43,296
Speaker 3: our head too, which I've never quite heard before.

933
00:37:43,376 --> 00:37:45,256
Speaker 10: But yeah, super exciting here in Nashville.

934
00:37:45,536 --> 00:37:46,976
Speaker 4: Lots to say, They got more to say. You can

935
00:37:47,016 --> 00:37:48,656
Speaker 4: listen to it on the podcast.

936
00:37:48,216 --> 00:37:52,656
Speaker 3: Rest And now we're going to go over to and

937
00:37:52,696 --> 00:37:55,296
Speaker 3: I missed this, but you got to talk with cam Orrick.

938
00:37:55,376 --> 00:37:57,256
Speaker 3: We did, and so we'll play this and then I

939
00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:00,136
Speaker 3: ask some questions about Cam once this is over.

940
00:38:05,456 --> 00:38:06,776
Speaker 10: Are excited to be here, Cam.

941
00:38:06,896 --> 00:38:08,456
Speaker 14: It's fun to watch practice today.

942
00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:10,216
Speaker 3: I want to start first of all the big throws.

943
00:38:10,496 --> 00:38:12,616
Speaker 14: We'll get to all the other topics, but walk me

944
00:38:12,616 --> 00:38:14,656
Speaker 14: through the big throw down the field, a big touchdown

945
00:38:14,736 --> 00:38:15,616
Speaker 14: to to Ridley today.

946
00:38:16,376 --> 00:38:19,176
Speaker 5: Look close, scrambling drill. I don't know if it's a

947
00:38:19,336 --> 00:38:21,336
Speaker 5: real play. Might have been a sack. Got to see

948
00:38:21,336 --> 00:38:23,736
Speaker 5: it on film. But that's just meeking quality, working on

949
00:38:23,776 --> 00:38:26,056
Speaker 5: my guys, them, letting them, letting them know how I

950
00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:27,736
Speaker 5: think in Scramma dril. So it's good that we have

951
00:38:27,776 --> 00:38:28,856
Speaker 5: to get one of those plays.

952
00:38:29,216 --> 00:38:29,456
Speaker 9: Camp.

953
00:38:29,496 --> 00:38:31,855
Speaker 6: From an install standpoint, I know that every day there's

954
00:38:31,856 --> 00:38:35,976
Speaker 6: probably an emphasis talk to us about your processing ability

955
00:38:36,016 --> 00:38:38,816
Speaker 6: and learning this offense, and every day some new reality

956
00:38:38,896 --> 00:38:40,256
Speaker 6: comes up that you're trying to learn.

957
00:38:40,736 --> 00:38:43,936
Speaker 5: Uh, just get used to the terminology. It's not different

958
00:38:43,936 --> 00:38:47,136
Speaker 5: from college and stand up routes and concepts everything.

959
00:38:47,136 --> 00:38:47,656
Speaker 9: It's all the same.

960
00:38:47,776 --> 00:38:51,296
Speaker 5: Just getting used to the NFL terminology, to formations, and

961
00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:54,656
Speaker 5: they also just staying the long play called the third down,

962
00:38:54,696 --> 00:38:57,576
Speaker 5: play calls the cans that checks out to mate. But

963
00:38:57,616 --> 00:38:59,496
Speaker 5: I mean it's been fun. I've been getting bet every day.

964
00:38:59,696 --> 00:39:01,815
Speaker 5: I'm running something new every day. I got a good

965
00:39:01,816 --> 00:39:04,736
Speaker 5: group of guys around me, the offensive line, wid receiving, corner,

966
00:39:04,816 --> 00:39:06,216
Speaker 5: running back, so i'mxcided to see.

967
00:39:06,016 --> 00:39:06,976
Speaker 7: What we can do well.

968
00:39:07,016 --> 00:39:08,416
Speaker 14: I talked to a bunch of coaches and a bunch

969
00:39:08,456 --> 00:39:10,256
Speaker 14: of personnel guys, and the one thing they said that

970
00:39:10,296 --> 00:39:12,416
Speaker 14: stood out to me was they can't beat you into

971
00:39:12,416 --> 00:39:15,096
Speaker 14: the office. What time are you getting in the facility

972
00:39:15,096 --> 00:39:16,736
Speaker 14: every day, and who have you been bringing with you?

973
00:39:17,096 --> 00:39:19,256
Speaker 5: I get there, I get there about five thirty. Just

974
00:39:19,336 --> 00:39:21,176
Speaker 5: the process what I need to do to try to get,

975
00:39:21,296 --> 00:39:22,696
Speaker 5: you know, be able to play my best ball in

976
00:39:22,896 --> 00:39:25,896
Speaker 5: a couple weeks, and then just also getting my receivers

977
00:39:25,976 --> 00:39:29,256
Speaker 5: up there. Really, He's always up there, Emily can Chimney's

978
00:39:29,256 --> 00:39:32,176
Speaker 5: always up there with shovels up there. We got so really,

979
00:39:32,176 --> 00:39:33,855
Speaker 5: all the young guys, we really stay up there because

980
00:39:33,896 --> 00:39:36,056
Speaker 5: you know, we're behind the eight ball. We're playing a

981
00:39:36,096 --> 00:39:38,616
Speaker 5: game seven year and ten year events, and we got

982
00:39:38,616 --> 00:39:40,096
Speaker 5: to be ready to play from day one.

983
00:39:40,576 --> 00:39:41,456
Speaker 9: So I'm excited though.

984
00:39:41,536 --> 00:39:44,576
Speaker 5: That's why we have emphasis on getting there, learning everything,

985
00:39:44,616 --> 00:39:46,096
Speaker 5: and you know, just trying to get bet every day.

986
00:39:46,576 --> 00:39:49,416
Speaker 6: Cam Where's that leadership quality come from, because you know,

987
00:39:49,936 --> 00:39:51,896
Speaker 6: you come in you're gonna be the face of this

988
00:39:51,976 --> 00:39:53,496
Speaker 6: franchise for a long period of time.

989
00:39:53,536 --> 00:39:56,216
Speaker 11: But it's got to be something that you.

990
00:39:56,216 --> 00:39:58,336
Speaker 6: Grew up as a born leader, right But at the

991
00:39:58,376 --> 00:40:00,656
Speaker 6: same time to come into a new group of grown

992
00:40:00,696 --> 00:40:04,816
Speaker 6: men in the professional setting, where does that leadership come from?

993
00:40:04,856 --> 00:40:08,176
Speaker 5: And you're I just think just understanding your teammates, learning

994
00:40:08,176 --> 00:40:10,296
Speaker 5: more about them, where they're from, their background, how they

995
00:40:10,336 --> 00:40:12,696
Speaker 5: get to this point because I had a different journey

996
00:40:12,696 --> 00:40:14,496
Speaker 5: to get into it. You know where I am now,

997
00:40:14,576 --> 00:40:17,896
Speaker 5: and I just think I don't separate from what the

998
00:40:17,896 --> 00:40:20,656
Speaker 5: outside world sees the quarterback position as to what our

999
00:40:20,696 --> 00:40:23,016
Speaker 5: position as is on the team. That's really being a

1000
00:40:23,056 --> 00:40:26,056
Speaker 5: good teammate, leading guys when you need to, and also

1001
00:40:26,136 --> 00:40:27,856
Speaker 5: not being a selfish player. We have a locker room

1002
00:40:27,856 --> 00:40:30,016
Speaker 5: full of unselfish players. Who are they want to do

1003
00:40:30,096 --> 00:40:31,616
Speaker 5: is way? And I'm sorry that I'm about the team.

1004
00:40:32,016 --> 00:40:32,496
Speaker 9: Etcter.

1005
00:40:32,696 --> 00:40:34,456
Speaker 2: You have a veteran offensive line, you go.

1006
00:40:34,416 --> 00:40:35,856
Speaker 14: Out and get a guy like Kevin Zitler, You go

1007
00:40:35,856 --> 00:40:37,376
Speaker 14: out and get Dan Moore. Have guys who've been in

1008
00:40:37,416 --> 00:40:38,335
Speaker 14: this league for quite a while.

1009
00:40:38,416 --> 00:40:41,216
Speaker 5: I'm really excited and they hold me to a hogh standard,

1010
00:40:41,256 --> 00:40:43,216
Speaker 5: and I'm holding up to Houstin as well. But I

1011
00:40:43,256 --> 00:40:46,176
Speaker 5: mean guys like Kevin and Dan, they teach me little

1012
00:40:46,176 --> 00:40:47,416
Speaker 5: things even when they don't think.

1013
00:40:47,256 --> 00:40:48,216
Speaker 9: They teach me something.

1014
00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:51,016
Speaker 5: They played football for a longer period than I am,

1015
00:40:51,456 --> 00:40:53,536
Speaker 5: and I just gotta I gotta learn stuff on the floor.

1016
00:40:53,536 --> 00:40:55,336
Speaker 5: I gotta learn stuff as fast as they did when

1017
00:40:55,336 --> 00:40:57,496
Speaker 5: they first got into the league. But I'm decided that

1018
00:40:57,576 --> 00:41:00,176
Speaker 5: you know the GM, Mr Mike, and you know missus Chattan,

1019
00:41:00,176 --> 00:41:02,056
Speaker 5: this's day surrounding me around guys like that to help

1020
00:41:02,096 --> 00:41:03,096
Speaker 5: me with my journey.

1021
00:41:03,136 --> 00:41:04,856
Speaker 11: And talk to us about your wide receiver room.

1022
00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:08,456
Speaker 6: Obviously Calvin Ridley, who's coming back as your number one,

1023
00:41:08,496 --> 00:41:10,096
Speaker 6: but you go out, you get Tyler Locke, and you

1024
00:41:10,176 --> 00:41:12,416
Speaker 6: ring a guy like Van Jefferson who's played a lot

1025
00:41:12,456 --> 00:41:16,576
Speaker 6: of quality football over his time, and Tyler Tyron Burks

1026
00:41:16,736 --> 00:41:18,856
Speaker 6: is coming back and he's a guy that you're hoping

1027
00:41:18,896 --> 00:41:21,976
Speaker 6: for big things. But that room looks a lot different

1028
00:41:21,976 --> 00:41:23,016
Speaker 6: than what it did in the past.

1029
00:41:23,496 --> 00:41:25,016
Speaker 7: We got to unbelieve we receive the corper.

1030
00:41:25,096 --> 00:41:28,496
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing we have from when watching

1031
00:41:28,536 --> 00:41:30,136
Speaker 5: them last year this year is that we just have

1032
00:41:30,216 --> 00:41:33,096
Speaker 5: a lot of speed, special young guys with elk Chim

1033
00:41:33,136 --> 00:41:36,176
Speaker 5: when we drafted but Calvalta lock I just think those

1034
00:41:36,256 --> 00:41:38,456
Speaker 5: three of the best receivers in the league. They helped

1035
00:41:38,456 --> 00:41:40,576
Speaker 5: me just understanding when they need the ball, why they

1036
00:41:40,656 --> 00:41:43,896
Speaker 5: eat the ball, and just when and how they get

1037
00:41:43,896 --> 00:41:46,136
Speaker 5: in out of breaking breaks. I think the biggest thing

1038
00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:48,216
Speaker 5: that I'm learnning from them. We've had to get some

1039
00:41:48,296 --> 00:41:51,736
Speaker 5: good work end this summer. Colin today Lockett knowing it

1040
00:41:51,856 --> 00:41:52,456
Speaker 5: was covered.

1041
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,816
Speaker 11: Two sitting up for me and me hitting him in

1042
00:41:53,856 --> 00:41:56,336
Speaker 11: that window. So we learned at each other on the fly.

1043
00:41:56,456 --> 00:41:58,496
Speaker 5: But I can for sure say you getting better every day.

1044
00:41:58,976 --> 00:42:01,096
Speaker 14: Have you thought about some type of a present for

1045
00:42:01,176 --> 00:42:03,335
Speaker 14: Jeffrey Simmons and kind of calm him down a little

1046
00:42:03,336 --> 00:42:06,256
Speaker 14: bit on the defensive line, just slowed down just a

1047
00:42:06,256 --> 00:42:06,656
Speaker 14: little bit.

1048
00:42:07,136 --> 00:42:08,496
Speaker 5: That's that's a big man right there.

1049
00:42:08,576 --> 00:42:09,736
Speaker 7: Man like dad.

1050
00:42:09,776 --> 00:42:11,776
Speaker 11: We slided his way every time we play him.

1051
00:42:12,016 --> 00:42:13,736
Speaker 5: I'm Finna, I'm Finn the running back in the in

1052
00:42:13,776 --> 00:42:15,815
Speaker 5: the A gap, and I'm chipping him every time I can.

1053
00:42:16,336 --> 00:42:16,496
Speaker 6: So.

1054
00:42:16,616 --> 00:42:18,376
Speaker 5: I mean, j jeff he's a he's a He's an

1055
00:42:18,416 --> 00:42:21,216
Speaker 5: ultimate competitor. He's somebody that you know, I wake up

1056
00:42:21,256 --> 00:42:22,896
Speaker 5: and I'm ready to get to work, to get to

1057
00:42:22,936 --> 00:42:25,376
Speaker 5: work and go get so but it's fun. I never

1058
00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:27,456
Speaker 5: played with a defensive lineman that big, who can move

1059
00:42:27,576 --> 00:42:30,216
Speaker 5: like him. But I mean, he's the reason why our

1060
00:42:30,216 --> 00:42:31,856
Speaker 5: defense is going to be so good. He can pressure

1061
00:42:31,896 --> 00:42:34,576
Speaker 5: the quarterback. He's a great team player, he's a great

1062
00:42:34,616 --> 00:42:36,016
Speaker 5: locker room guys on the side there, you know.

1063
00:42:36,016 --> 00:42:38,456
Speaker 6: Having by myself, I think one of the most important

1064
00:42:38,496 --> 00:42:42,056
Speaker 6: relationships for any quarterback is a relationship with their offensive coreator.

1065
00:42:42,216 --> 00:42:44,256
Speaker 9: You've got a new offensive coordinator with Nick Colts.

1066
00:42:44,416 --> 00:42:46,616
Speaker 6: Talk to me about that process and learning to get

1067
00:42:46,656 --> 00:42:49,096
Speaker 6: to know each other and the collaboration that really takes

1068
00:42:49,096 --> 00:42:50,616
Speaker 6: place to get to know you as a player.

1069
00:42:50,976 --> 00:42:53,816
Speaker 5: Uh, just good. I think the first time me finally

1070
00:42:53,856 --> 00:42:56,856
Speaker 5: being in coach hose, just throughout the whole free draft process.

1071
00:42:56,976 --> 00:42:57,976
Speaker 11: But to now is that he.

1072
00:42:57,936 --> 00:42:58,736
Speaker 7: Really understands me.

1073
00:42:58,776 --> 00:43:02,896
Speaker 5: He understands you know, wildlight, certain players. I'm not used

1074
00:43:02,896 --> 00:43:05,096
Speaker 5: to doing a five step from Gunn, but I'm starting

1075
00:43:05,096 --> 00:43:07,696
Speaker 5: to love now, especially getting the balled out on Tom

1076
00:43:07,736 --> 00:43:10,456
Speaker 5: getting to early. Hey, I think does Coach Hols, you know,

1077
00:43:10,536 --> 00:43:13,776
Speaker 5: Coach Callaha and coach vote quarterback coach, They're gonna really dillard.

1078
00:43:13,616 --> 00:43:15,016
Speaker 11: Up for us this year last one.

1079
00:43:15,056 --> 00:43:17,216
Speaker 14: As we wrap it up, look at the two of us,

1080
00:43:17,216 --> 00:43:18,736
Speaker 14: Me and Mass sweating like crazy. You don't have a

1081
00:43:18,736 --> 00:43:21,136
Speaker 14: beat of sweat on you know, how is that here possible?

1082
00:43:21,256 --> 00:43:24,656
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm from Texas, lovely like Texas hot our

1083
00:43:24,736 --> 00:43:26,616
Speaker 5: here playing on from the South. So I'm glad I

1084
00:43:26,656 --> 00:43:28,176
Speaker 5: was able to stay in the South and being Tennessee.

1085
00:43:28,456 --> 00:43:30,816
Speaker 14: Camp Woard's prepared. He's prepared for the weather, He's prepared

1086
00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:31,736
Speaker 14: for what's going on out there.

1087
00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:33,416
Speaker 2: On the field. Thanks buddy, the Starry appreciate you.

1088
00:43:34,576 --> 00:43:36,136
Speaker 3: They got to sit with Cam Wore there. I don't

1089
00:43:36,136 --> 00:43:37,576
Speaker 3: know what were your takeaways after meeting him.

1090
00:43:38,016 --> 00:43:43,096
Speaker 8: I mean, he's very mature, He's got a great grasp

1091
00:43:43,136 --> 00:43:43,856
Speaker 8: of who he is.

1092
00:43:43,976 --> 00:43:45,936
Speaker 7: He's confident. You could tell that right away.

1093
00:43:46,416 --> 00:43:49,336
Speaker 8: He talked about his leadership, he talked about this transition

1094
00:43:49,416 --> 00:43:53,016
Speaker 8: into the pros, and you could tell like there's something

1095
00:43:53,016 --> 00:43:55,376
Speaker 8: about him. He's got some moxie to him. He's a

1096
00:43:55,456 --> 00:43:58,496
Speaker 8: natural leader, and I'm excited for the young man. I

1097
00:43:58,576 --> 00:44:01,096
Speaker 8: think he knows that this season is going to be

1098
00:44:01,136 --> 00:44:05,136
Speaker 8: one of those that they're still rebuilding. But it's he's

1099
00:44:05,136 --> 00:44:07,136
Speaker 8: got the keys of the car right. He knows that

1100
00:44:07,176 --> 00:44:09,416
Speaker 8: he's the franchise. He knows that he's the face of

1101
00:44:09,456 --> 00:44:11,816
Speaker 8: this franchise and that it's going to be an uphill battle.

1102
00:44:11,816 --> 00:44:14,056
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I think he embraces that,

1103
00:44:14,176 --> 00:44:17,056
Speaker 8: understands it. And you look at the history of what

1104
00:44:17,176 --> 00:44:19,016
Speaker 8: he went through in his college career, going to JC,

1105
00:44:19,176 --> 00:44:22,256
Speaker 8: going to Washington State, having to prove himself every step

1106
00:44:22,296 --> 00:44:24,416
Speaker 8: along the way, and then to get that shot at

1107
00:44:24,416 --> 00:44:27,456
Speaker 8: Miami become the number one draft pick. He understands what

1108
00:44:27,496 --> 00:44:30,056
Speaker 8: it's going to take, and I don't think he's phased

1109
00:44:30,096 --> 00:44:30,736
Speaker 8: by any of it.

1110
00:44:31,296 --> 00:44:33,416
Speaker 3: We're gonna come back. We're going to talk about I

1111
00:44:33,456 --> 00:44:36,256
Speaker 3: have questions about Caleb Williams and Bears Camp. We'll do that.

1112
00:44:36,296 --> 00:44:39,696
Speaker 3: We'll talk about the Hall of Fame. And I bought

1113
00:44:39,696 --> 00:44:41,696
Speaker 3: something that came in the mail today and I'm curious

1114
00:44:41,696 --> 00:44:43,096
Speaker 3: if you have one of these, We'll do all that.

1115
00:44:43,216 --> 00:45:00,296
Speaker 3: On the other side of this, I got a package

1116
00:45:00,296 --> 00:45:02,016
Speaker 3: from Amazon today and it was very long. It looked

1117
00:45:02,056 --> 00:45:04,296
Speaker 3: like golf clubs. It was that long of a box. Okay,

1118
00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:05,896
Speaker 3: so you can picture it, And I'm like, what did

1119
00:45:05,936 --> 00:45:07,896
Speaker 3: I order that's long like that? Because I knew I

1120
00:45:07,936 --> 00:45:09,776
Speaker 3: didn't order a single golf club. I knew I didn't

1121
00:45:09,816 --> 00:45:10,696
Speaker 3: order golf clubs.

1122
00:45:10,896 --> 00:45:12,616
Speaker 7: You order golf clubs of famous.

1123
00:45:13,136 --> 00:45:16,136
Speaker 3: No, well it looked like that title. I was just asking,

1124
00:45:16,856 --> 00:45:21,216
Speaker 3: I've ordered like a one of those weighted ones, like

1125
00:45:21,256 --> 00:45:24,776
Speaker 3: the ball you swing to get loose. Yeah, so no,

1126
00:45:24,976 --> 00:45:26,936
Speaker 3: but no, because I've been lucky enough to have like

1127
00:45:27,016 --> 00:45:29,176
Speaker 3: sponsorship deals. I'm not even not gonna a golfer, but

1128
00:45:30,376 --> 00:45:33,896
Speaker 3: can I get some of that? I think I will

1129
00:45:33,936 --> 00:45:37,856
Speaker 3: sponsor you. I will sponsor you. So I open it up,

1130
00:45:38,216 --> 00:45:39,736
Speaker 3: and I forgot that I had bought this also. I

1131
00:45:39,736 --> 00:45:41,776
Speaker 3: didn't know it'd come this long. But I bought one

1132
00:45:41,816 --> 00:45:44,296
Speaker 3: of those big, long wooden things you put over your

1133
00:45:44,336 --> 00:45:45,776
Speaker 3: bathtube and you take a bath, so you can work

1134
00:45:45,776 --> 00:45:46,536
Speaker 3: while you take a bath.

1135
00:45:47,256 --> 00:45:49,416
Speaker 8: Are you a big bath guy, big bath guy, big

1136
00:45:49,456 --> 00:45:54,016
Speaker 8: bath guy, bath guys, depending.

1137
00:45:53,616 --> 00:45:56,336
Speaker 3: On what you really Yeah, because if something's wrong with me,

1138
00:45:56,736 --> 00:45:59,696
Speaker 3: epsin sauce, for sure. If nothing's wrong with me, because

1139
00:45:59,696 --> 00:46:01,736
Speaker 3: epsin sauce sometimes in the bath bomb or the bubbles

1140
00:46:01,736 --> 00:46:06,216
Speaker 3: don't mix. Well, okay, the chemistry doesn't work. Big bath guy,

1141
00:46:06,536 --> 00:46:08,496
Speaker 3: big bath guy. And so I bought me a new

1142
00:46:08,696 --> 00:46:10,616
Speaker 3: It holds like my computer. I can stand in the longer,

1143
00:46:10,656 --> 00:46:12,856
Speaker 3: I can like watch some tiktoks. Yeah, you have bath

1144
00:46:12,896 --> 00:46:13,296
Speaker 3: guide all.

1145
00:46:13,696 --> 00:46:14,096
Speaker 7: You know what?

1146
00:46:14,536 --> 00:46:16,896
Speaker 8: This is the God's honest truth. Because I wasn't feeling

1147
00:46:16,896 --> 00:46:19,976
Speaker 8: great this last week. I took my first first bath

1148
00:46:20,016 --> 00:46:23,496
Speaker 8: in about five years, just because I had like the shivers,

1149
00:46:23,576 --> 00:46:24,376
Speaker 8: wasn't feeling good.

1150
00:46:24,856 --> 00:46:26,136
Speaker 7: I was like, it was relaxing.

1151
00:46:26,176 --> 00:46:26,656
Speaker 3: You enjoyed it.

1152
00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:28,856
Speaker 7: It was relieving. Yeah, but I couldn't say that I'm

1153
00:46:28,856 --> 00:46:30,696
Speaker 7: a bath guy. I probably don't have time for that.

1154
00:46:30,896 --> 00:46:33,056
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't either. But you make time for

1155
00:46:33,136 --> 00:46:35,656
Speaker 3: things you love. And you know what, I love a bat.

1156
00:46:35,856 --> 00:46:37,976
Speaker 3: You love a good bath, and I can't.

1157
00:46:37,816 --> 00:46:39,216
Speaker 7: Just like my seven year old daughter.

1158
00:46:39,296 --> 00:46:41,536
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we probably are many ways.

1159
00:46:41,536 --> 00:46:43,576
Speaker 7: Do you have like little Barbies and duckies in there too?

1160
00:46:43,696 --> 00:46:46,096
Speaker 3: It depends am my bath bombing it or my EPs

1161
00:46:46,096 --> 00:46:49,456
Speaker 3: in salting it? Barbiees is bath bomb got it? EPs

1162
00:46:49,496 --> 00:46:50,776
Speaker 3: and salts like sore muscles.

1163
00:46:51,576 --> 00:46:52,736
Speaker 7: Muscles have been working hard.

1164
00:46:52,936 --> 00:46:55,176
Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, about happenings. Because I'm hurt right now,

1165
00:46:55,416 --> 00:47:01,816
Speaker 3: I have a muscle or a physical therapist coming over. Okay,

1166
00:47:02,656 --> 00:47:04,576
Speaker 3: any injury that I get at this point in my life,

1167
00:47:04,616 --> 00:47:06,736
Speaker 3: I just live with it. I just assume it's going

1168
00:47:06,776 --> 00:47:07,896
Speaker 3: to be there the rest of his life.

1169
00:47:08,416 --> 00:47:10,176
Speaker 7: Man, that's a bad way to go through thet.

1170
00:47:09,896 --> 00:47:11,656
Speaker 3: Like I heard my ankle tor from cartilage my ankle

1171
00:47:11,696 --> 00:47:13,616
Speaker 3: like a year ago. Doctors like, it's never going to heal.

1172
00:47:13,776 --> 00:47:15,136
Speaker 7: You can just it'll never heal.

1173
00:47:15,296 --> 00:47:16,016
Speaker 3: Carlage is gone.

1174
00:47:16,096 --> 00:47:17,296
Speaker 7: I mean, what a bad doctor.

1175
00:47:17,656 --> 00:47:21,496
Speaker 8: Well no, hope, I messed some bedside manner to you,

1176
00:47:21,616 --> 00:47:22,496
Speaker 8: for God's sake.

1177
00:47:22,416 --> 00:47:23,696
Speaker 3: Messed up my shoulder.

1178
00:47:24,976 --> 00:47:27,256
Speaker 7: To use it, never going to use it. Can't swing

1179
00:47:27,256 --> 00:47:27,736
Speaker 7: a pickleball.

1180
00:47:27,776 --> 00:47:31,696
Speaker 3: Tweaked my back in a pickleball tournament. It hurts, yes,

1181
00:47:32,096 --> 00:47:33,896
Speaker 3: And now I just assume my back is always going

1182
00:47:33,896 --> 00:47:34,976
Speaker 3: to be hurting the rest of my life.

1183
00:47:35,056 --> 00:47:36,696
Speaker 8: Did you, like, are you one of those guys that

1184
00:47:36,816 --> 00:47:39,776
Speaker 8: have to go, like, get the MRI, maybe a cat scan.

1185
00:47:39,736 --> 00:47:40,816
Speaker 7: Figure it out right away.

1186
00:47:41,176 --> 00:47:42,856
Speaker 3: I'm the guy that puts it off. As a matter

1187
00:47:42,896 --> 00:47:46,136
Speaker 3: of fact, I was playing in this tournament and I hurt.

1188
00:47:46,256 --> 00:47:48,616
Speaker 3: I felt it, and I fell on my knee and

1189
00:47:48,656 --> 00:47:50,496
Speaker 3: I cut my knee up. But this dude was talking

1190
00:47:50,536 --> 00:47:53,536
Speaker 3: so much garbage and he was cheating, and so I

1191
00:47:53,576 --> 00:47:55,256
Speaker 3: was like, screw this. I was down a point or so,

1192
00:47:55,776 --> 00:47:57,936
Speaker 3: and I knew I needed to stop playing or it

1193
00:47:57,976 --> 00:48:01,656
Speaker 3: was gonna get worse. But I could not quit until

1194
00:48:01,656 --> 00:48:03,576
Speaker 3: I won that and beat that guy. Wasn't about the match,

1195
00:48:03,576 --> 00:48:06,536
Speaker 3: It's about beating that year I did. I beat him

1196
00:48:06,736 --> 00:48:08,336
Speaker 3: and then I had to retire from the tournament after that.

1197
00:48:08,376 --> 00:48:10,256
Speaker 3: But I think I heard it worse by continuing to play.

1198
00:48:10,256 --> 00:48:12,016
Speaker 3: But I would do it again. That dude was cheating

1199
00:48:12,016 --> 00:48:12,576
Speaker 3: his face off.

1200
00:48:12,616 --> 00:48:14,416
Speaker 7: So when you say cheating, are you calling your own points?

1201
00:48:14,496 --> 00:48:15,616
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what I was doing.

1202
00:48:15,936 --> 00:48:16,136
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1203
00:48:16,136 --> 00:48:18,016
Speaker 3: And I looked at him, and I think I told

1204
00:48:18,056 --> 00:48:19,776
Speaker 3: the story. I said, are you doing a bit? But

1205
00:48:19,856 --> 00:48:21,736
Speaker 3: I have a physical therapist coming over to day to

1206
00:48:21,736 --> 00:48:23,376
Speaker 3: work on my back and then I plan to get

1207
00:48:23,376 --> 00:48:25,696
Speaker 3: back in the bath with my brand new back in

1208
00:48:25,736 --> 00:48:29,496
Speaker 3: the bath, my my bath desk. Yeah, desk anybody out there,

1209
00:48:29,696 --> 00:48:32,016
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude. If you don't have a bath desk,

1210
00:48:32,416 --> 00:48:33,176
Speaker 3: you ain't living.

1211
00:48:33,296 --> 00:48:33,896
Speaker 7: You ain't living.

1212
00:48:33,936 --> 00:48:39,256
Speaker 8: And it's and it's specifically for taking baths and to

1213
00:48:39,336 --> 00:48:41,616
Speaker 8: do desk work on and desk work, that's right. And

1214
00:48:41,656 --> 00:48:44,216
Speaker 8: if you do or so you do more desk work

1215
00:48:44,256 --> 00:48:46,616
Speaker 8: on there, you're actually watching Netflix or what.

1216
00:48:46,736 --> 00:48:48,976
Speaker 3: I don't watch Netflix there, but I do. I'll do

1217
00:48:49,016 --> 00:48:51,976
Speaker 3: some tiktoking, you'll do some TikTok. I some tiktoking, and

1218
00:48:52,096 --> 00:48:53,576
Speaker 3: I will work a little bit, but it's how I

1219
00:48:53,616 --> 00:48:55,576
Speaker 3: manage my time to get in the same place. If

1220
00:48:55,616 --> 00:48:57,216
Speaker 3: you decide you want to be more of a bath guy,

1221
00:48:57,296 --> 00:48:59,936
Speaker 3: I have the perfect bath desk and I will I

1222
00:48:59,976 --> 00:49:00,616
Speaker 3: will get you one.

1223
00:49:01,016 --> 00:49:03,256
Speaker 7: I appreciate that you just let me know. I still

1224
00:49:03,256 --> 00:49:04,736
Speaker 7: know if I'm going to go down that path yet

1225
00:49:04,936 --> 00:49:06,936
Speaker 7: you may not. But you're gonna have to tweak a

1226
00:49:06,976 --> 00:49:07,456
Speaker 7: few things.

1227
00:49:07,576 --> 00:49:09,576
Speaker 3: I am the expert you call you are. I have

1228
00:49:09,696 --> 00:49:11,776
Speaker 3: questions about quarterbacks. I ask you if you have a

1229
00:49:11,856 --> 00:49:14,256
Speaker 3: questions about bats, I'm going to hit you up. Yes.

1230
00:49:14,456 --> 00:49:15,016
Speaker 7: Now, speaking of.

1231
00:49:15,056 --> 00:49:18,936
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, I've been watching just through clips and reading about it,

1232
00:49:19,016 --> 00:49:21,496
Speaker 3: especially from the local beat writers about the Bears camp

1233
00:49:21,496 --> 00:49:24,256
Speaker 3: and Kayleb Williams, and obviously Ben Johnson is there now

1234
00:49:24,256 --> 00:49:26,576
Speaker 3: as the head coach, who is the offensive coordinator in Detroit,

1235
00:49:26,976 --> 00:49:30,936
Speaker 3: and apparently Kayleb Williams is struggling. They even gave Caleb

1236
00:49:30,936 --> 00:49:33,696
Speaker 3: Williams I said they Ben Johnson, the offensive staff gave

1237
00:49:33,736 --> 00:49:36,496
Speaker 3: a bunch of homework before camp because he struggled at Ota.

1238
00:49:36,616 --> 00:49:39,456
Speaker 3: Is a bit how common is that for a quarterback

1239
00:49:39,536 --> 00:49:43,696
Speaker 3: with a entire new philosophy to struggle at this part

1240
00:49:43,736 --> 00:49:45,576
Speaker 3: of the year. Is it much ado about nothing?

1241
00:49:46,656 --> 00:49:49,536
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there is obviously a process to this

1242
00:49:49,576 --> 00:49:52,216
Speaker 8: whole deal, and it's probably even when you listen to

1243
00:49:52,256 --> 00:49:55,016
Speaker 8: Ben Johnson's comments and some of the pressers, he's like,

1244
00:49:55,056 --> 00:49:57,576
Speaker 8: this is brand new terminology. We're putting more on his plate,

1245
00:49:57,896 --> 00:50:00,256
Speaker 8: and right now they're going to continue to push him

1246
00:50:00,816 --> 00:50:03,096
Speaker 8: and see how far he can elevate, how much he

1247
00:50:03,136 --> 00:50:06,256
Speaker 8: can take in, how much he can process now, because

1248
00:50:06,296 --> 00:50:09,696
Speaker 8: then you can always pull back. But until you expose

1249
00:50:09,776 --> 00:50:13,176
Speaker 8: him to the entirety of that playbook, then you'll never

1250
00:50:13,256 --> 00:50:15,256
Speaker 8: know what he's capable of. Now, you can take the

1251
00:50:15,896 --> 00:50:18,736
Speaker 8: baby step approach where it's, hey, we're going to start

1252
00:50:18,776 --> 00:50:22,376
Speaker 8: really slow and just kind of introduce common concepts. But

1253
00:50:22,976 --> 00:50:26,736
Speaker 8: if Ben Johnson knows that that offense is going to

1254
00:50:26,776 --> 00:50:29,696
Speaker 8: operate at its best, it's going to have the motions,

1255
00:50:29,736 --> 00:50:32,696
Speaker 8: the pre staff shifts, it's going to have the elaborate,

1256
00:50:33,376 --> 00:50:38,296
Speaker 8: sophisticated layers to it that they want Caleb William to

1257
00:50:38,296 --> 00:50:41,216
Speaker 8: be able to retain and understand why they're doing it.

1258
00:50:41,576 --> 00:50:44,376
Speaker 8: So I understand why there's going to be struggles because

1259
00:50:44,416 --> 00:50:45,896
Speaker 8: even when I got to New England and I was

1260
00:50:45,936 --> 00:50:49,176
Speaker 8: a rookie quarterback coming in learning a new terminology.

1261
00:50:48,536 --> 00:50:51,096
Speaker 7: That I thought was sophisticated. But there was a lot

1262
00:50:51,136 --> 00:50:51,696
Speaker 7: of check with me.

1263
00:50:52,216 --> 00:50:54,456
Speaker 8: There's a lot of two plays in the huddle getting

1264
00:50:54,496 --> 00:50:56,856
Speaker 8: to the right, but you're also shifting during those you're

1265
00:50:56,936 --> 00:50:59,376
Speaker 8: using double cadence, and that's probably more than he's ever

1266
00:50:59,416 --> 00:51:01,976
Speaker 8: done in his entire career. So it's a learning curve,

1267
00:51:02,176 --> 00:51:04,416
Speaker 8: and it's a steep learning curve. But I think what

1268
00:51:04,456 --> 00:51:07,136
Speaker 8: Ben Johnson's really do and is pushing him to try

1269
00:51:07,136 --> 00:51:09,736
Speaker 8: to see how much he can take in because they

1270
00:51:09,736 --> 00:51:10,656
Speaker 8: can always pull back.

1271
00:51:11,416 --> 00:51:12,656
Speaker 3: He may need a bath desk.

1272
00:51:13,136 --> 00:51:15,176
Speaker 8: He made me need a bath desk in the computer

1273
00:51:15,256 --> 00:51:16,136
Speaker 8: so he can go through it.

1274
00:51:16,456 --> 00:51:17,976
Speaker 3: So while he's in the bath, he can still So

1275
00:51:18,096 --> 00:51:20,136
Speaker 3: you guys are like, oh, you take baths. Yeah, but

1276
00:51:20,176 --> 00:51:22,336
Speaker 3: you're doing two things at once. He's a little little

1277
00:51:22,336 --> 00:51:23,736
Speaker 3: aps and salt, a little bath desk.

1278
00:51:23,936 --> 00:51:24,176
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1279
00:51:24,376 --> 00:51:27,376
Speaker 8: Watch the place, watch the place. Rehearse the place. I mean,

1280
00:51:27,856 --> 00:51:29,456
Speaker 8: every time I went into a new offense. It's the

1281
00:51:29,456 --> 00:51:32,336
Speaker 8: funniest thing because I used to have my wife literally

1282
00:51:32,376 --> 00:51:35,016
Speaker 8: goes down the play sheet and give me the calls

1283
00:51:35,416 --> 00:51:38,696
Speaker 8: so that I would rehearse saying them out loud because

1284
00:51:38,816 --> 00:51:41,376
Speaker 8: There's something to be said about knowing the terminology but

1285
00:51:41,456 --> 00:51:44,576
Speaker 8: then visualizing it. And when sometime when you're in a

1286
00:51:44,616 --> 00:51:47,696
Speaker 8: new system and even you hear the play call coming

1287
00:51:48,096 --> 00:51:50,296
Speaker 8: to your helmet, you don't always process that. You're just

1288
00:51:50,336 --> 00:51:53,815
Speaker 8: regurgitating what you're hearing. So you have to practice those.

1289
00:51:54,416 --> 00:51:57,896
Speaker 8: As small as that sounds, it makes all the difference

1290
00:51:57,936 --> 00:51:59,376
Speaker 8: in the world to go into a huddle and have

1291
00:51:59,416 --> 00:52:02,656
Speaker 8: confidence and be able to visualize that play and say

1292
00:52:02,656 --> 00:52:03,456
Speaker 8: it confidently.

1293
00:52:04,176 --> 00:52:07,776
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. We got four members going in. Antonio Gates.

1294
00:52:07,976 --> 00:52:11,376
Speaker 3: First thing that comes to mind, Antonio Gates, I'm gonna

1295
00:52:11,376 --> 00:52:13,256
Speaker 3: go basketball player, because that's all they used to say.

1296
00:52:13,376 --> 00:52:16,056
Speaker 3: Now that's been done a couple of times, like Jimmy

1297
00:52:18,216 --> 00:52:21,656
Speaker 3: Jimmy Graham was a basketball player. Those guys have happened before.

1298
00:52:21,656 --> 00:52:24,616
Speaker 3: But for me, Antonio Gates basketball player that turned into

1299
00:52:24,616 --> 00:52:27,616
Speaker 3: a tight end. He was extremely dominant, but he was

1300
00:52:27,656 --> 00:52:29,216
Speaker 3: just so much taller than everybody too.

1301
00:52:29,696 --> 00:52:32,616
Speaker 8: I mean, he was dominant and he never looked like

1302
00:52:32,696 --> 00:52:36,416
Speaker 8: he was running extremely fast, but nobody could cover this

1303
00:52:36,496 --> 00:52:39,536
Speaker 8: guy within that five to ten yard range, and then

1304
00:52:39,576 --> 00:52:43,616
Speaker 8: he would explode out and just get open down the field.

1305
00:52:43,736 --> 00:52:45,176
Speaker 7: He had a great feel.

1306
00:52:46,416 --> 00:52:48,496
Speaker 8: Obviously Hall of famer, and we've played against him a

1307
00:52:48,496 --> 00:52:50,816
Speaker 8: bunch when I was with the Chiefs, and I used

1308
00:52:50,856 --> 00:52:52,816
Speaker 8: to just throw fits on the sideline anytime it was

1309
00:52:52,856 --> 00:52:54,256
Speaker 8: clutch time, third down.

1310
00:52:54,296 --> 00:52:56,176
Speaker 7: Philip rivers would just find him over. You could try

1311
00:52:56,176 --> 00:52:56,736
Speaker 7: to double them.

1312
00:52:56,656 --> 00:52:57,696
Speaker 3: Doing it, and I knew they were going on well,

1313
00:52:57,776 --> 00:52:58,856
Speaker 3: you knew they were going to him.

1314
00:52:58,976 --> 00:53:02,376
Speaker 7: He had sure hands catch everything. Just a freak of nature.

1315
00:53:02,616 --> 00:53:03,776
Speaker 3: Jared Allen your boy.

1316
00:53:03,936 --> 00:53:06,016
Speaker 7: I'm going actually, I'm going up this my new friend.

1317
00:53:06,056 --> 00:53:08,456
Speaker 7: Really yeah, he I got invited two.

1318
00:53:09,136 --> 00:53:13,016
Speaker 8: Jared Allen's having something after and so obviously we played

1319
00:53:13,056 --> 00:53:15,856
Speaker 8: together at Minnesota. Good friend of mine. I'm going to

1320
00:53:15,896 --> 00:53:17,536
Speaker 8: go up and celebrate him this week, and so it'll

1321
00:53:17,576 --> 00:53:17,856
Speaker 8: be fun.

1322
00:53:17,896 --> 00:53:18,496
Speaker 3: That's super cool.

1323
00:53:18,616 --> 00:53:19,456
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited.

1324
00:53:19,816 --> 00:53:21,376
Speaker 3: Eric Allen. Do you ever play against Erek Allen?

1325
00:53:21,496 --> 00:53:21,576
Speaker 7: No?

1326
00:53:21,656 --> 00:53:24,416
Speaker 8: I did not, Yes, I did it play against Eric Allen?

1327
00:53:24,576 --> 00:53:25,456
Speaker 8: Great player as well.

1328
00:53:25,536 --> 00:53:26,496
Speaker 3: Did you play with them at all?

1329
00:53:26,736 --> 00:53:26,816
Speaker 9: No?

1330
00:53:28,056 --> 00:53:29,856
Speaker 3: Fifty four career interceptions, that's a.

1331
00:53:29,776 --> 00:53:31,256
Speaker 7: Lot of a lot of interceptions.

1332
00:53:31,456 --> 00:53:34,256
Speaker 3: That's a lot of interceptions. And then Sterling Sharp.

1333
00:53:34,256 --> 00:53:35,816
Speaker 7: Way before you, way before me.

1334
00:53:35,976 --> 00:53:38,616
Speaker 3: And I remember Sterling Sharp as a young kid because

1335
00:53:38,616 --> 00:53:42,176
Speaker 3: that was Farv's dude in the first generation FARV that

1336
00:53:42,256 --> 00:53:44,016
Speaker 3: I remember. Sterling Sharp was a dude.

1337
00:53:44,056 --> 00:53:48,056
Speaker 7: Sterling Sharp was the dude bighead. Did you yeah, good player?

1338
00:53:48,736 --> 00:53:52,976
Speaker 3: No? No, fine, fine player, fine player, talked a lot,

1339
00:53:53,056 --> 00:53:54,016
Speaker 3: smoked a lot of cigars.

1340
00:53:54,216 --> 00:53:55,376
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah.

1341
00:53:55,416 --> 00:53:58,576
Speaker 3: But Sterling Sharp gets in six hundred catches, different time, though,

1342
00:53:58,696 --> 00:54:02,216
Speaker 3: different time. Five time pro bowler, NFL All Decade Team

1343
00:54:02,216 --> 00:54:04,376
Speaker 3: of the nineties. Now, those are the four going in.

1344
00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:07,376
Speaker 3: Have you seen the list of the folks that are eligible,

1345
00:54:07,416 --> 00:54:08,576
Speaker 3: because I want to read you some of these and

1346
00:54:08,616 --> 00:54:10,856
Speaker 3: you tell me, well, let's pick who we think should

1347
00:54:10,896 --> 00:54:13,816
Speaker 3: go in. Okay, Now, I think the rule is minimal

1348
00:54:13,976 --> 00:54:16,536
Speaker 3: for maximum eight, right.

1349
00:54:16,656 --> 00:54:18,336
Speaker 8: I think that they went four too because they had

1350
00:54:18,336 --> 00:54:20,256
Speaker 8: the year after COVID, right where they had a bunch

1351
00:54:20,336 --> 00:54:21,536
Speaker 8: go in like full eight.

1352
00:54:22,856 --> 00:54:25,576
Speaker 3: That you mean this year for yeah, yeah, So why

1353
00:54:25,616 --> 00:54:28,696
Speaker 3: don't we do six? Let's just do it in the middle.

1354
00:54:29,616 --> 00:54:31,696
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough because i'll read you someone and

1355
00:54:31,736 --> 00:54:34,296
Speaker 3: you can say absolutely yes, or we'll come back to them.

1356
00:54:34,336 --> 00:54:34,776
Speaker 7: Okay.

1357
00:54:35,456 --> 00:54:40,136
Speaker 3: Drew Brees absolutely yes, absolutely yes, put him down, absolutely yes.

1358
00:54:40,856 --> 00:54:49,256
Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald absolutely yes, absolutely yes, agree, Jason Witten absolutely yes. Well,

1359
00:54:49,296 --> 00:54:51,736
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back to Jason Whitton. I think it's

1360
00:54:51,816 --> 00:54:54,536
Speaker 3: yes too, but I purposefully didn't go to the whole

1361
00:54:54,576 --> 00:54:56,336
Speaker 3: list because I wanted to play with you as I

1362
00:54:56,376 --> 00:54:56,736
Speaker 3: read them.

1363
00:54:56,896 --> 00:54:57,496
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to.

1364
00:54:57,496 --> 00:54:58,456
Speaker 3: Come back to Jason Witten.

1365
00:54:58,536 --> 00:55:01,696
Speaker 7: I played with I played with Witt. Yeah, gotta love

1366
00:55:01,856 --> 00:55:03,056
Speaker 7: I mean, I love that guy.

1367
00:55:03,216 --> 00:55:04,976
Speaker 3: Really why just a.

1368
00:55:06,576 --> 00:55:10,256
Speaker 8: Unbelievable professional, but a guy that had played with grit,

1369
00:55:10,416 --> 00:55:13,736
Speaker 8: great leader, played hurt. I mean, he tells the story

1370
00:55:13,736 --> 00:55:16,656
Speaker 8: where he had his jaw like full on, had to

1371
00:55:16,656 --> 00:55:19,056
Speaker 8: get realigned and had to go see the special doctor

1372
00:55:19,096 --> 00:55:21,456
Speaker 8: and came out still made it out for opening day.

1373
00:55:21,456 --> 00:55:23,216
Speaker 8: He played with me with cracked ribs and he had

1374
00:55:23,456 --> 00:55:25,256
Speaker 8: fluid in his lungs and then we were at the

1375
00:55:25,336 --> 00:55:28,296
Speaker 8: end of the season. Game didn't matter. Should have protected himself.

1376
00:55:28,496 --> 00:55:31,496
Speaker 8: No was out there on Thursday practice, got his lung

1377
00:55:31,616 --> 00:55:34,616
Speaker 8: drain like just a guy that could get open in

1378
00:55:34,656 --> 00:55:37,616
Speaker 8: a phone booth, understood how to play the position, could

1379
00:55:37,656 --> 00:55:39,256
Speaker 8: block at the end of the line of scrimmage.

1380
00:55:39,416 --> 00:55:40,336
Speaker 7: Just an absolute stud.

1381
00:55:40,416 --> 00:55:43,656
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I've now switched. I'm now a Yes. After that,

1382
00:55:44,736 --> 00:55:46,416
Speaker 3: he just gave me the one one for the Gipper speech.

1383
00:55:46,456 --> 00:55:49,256
Speaker 3: You're a sponsor now is does he live here?

1384
00:55:49,616 --> 00:55:52,056
Speaker 7: He's in Texas, got it. There were rumors that he

1385
00:55:52,096 --> 00:55:52,816
Speaker 7: was going to come coming.

1386
00:55:53,456 --> 00:55:56,576
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I wondered if you Yeah, Okay Frank Gore,

1387
00:55:58,336 --> 00:56:00,176
Speaker 3: He's a yes for me too, so I'm going to

1388
00:56:00,216 --> 00:56:03,016
Speaker 3: come back. Frank Gore extremely dominant, but played a long, long,

1389
00:56:03,056 --> 00:56:06,056
Speaker 3: long time and what he played eighteen seasons And sometimes

1390
00:56:06,056 --> 00:56:08,216
Speaker 3: people will devalue the link to someone's career, But do

1391
00:56:08,216 --> 00:56:09,576
Speaker 3: you know how hard it is that you do? But

1392
00:56:09,656 --> 00:56:11,896
Speaker 3: I'm saying it is very hard to stay healthy. Yes,

1393
00:56:12,216 --> 00:56:15,096
Speaker 3: Like there's as much much upkeep in work at staying

1394
00:56:15,096 --> 00:56:19,416
Speaker 3: healthy as there is being great, especially at running back. Yeah, Edelman.

1395
00:56:20,776 --> 00:56:21,216
Speaker 7: Not yet?

1396
00:56:21,256 --> 00:56:25,256
Speaker 3: Okay, Olsen, do you think his career has been helped

1397
00:56:25,256 --> 00:56:27,096
Speaker 3: by what he's been able to do at a high

1398
00:56:27,176 --> 00:56:31,736
Speaker 3: level after the game, because I think he's probably not

1399
00:56:31,936 --> 00:56:33,136
Speaker 3: there in this class.

1400
00:56:33,736 --> 00:56:36,456
Speaker 7: But I how many were you taking in this class? Six?

1401
00:56:37,336 --> 00:56:39,216
Speaker 3: I think we have three so far, and I think

1402
00:56:39,376 --> 00:56:41,816
Speaker 3: but his profile and that does it sho, but it

1403
00:56:41,856 --> 00:56:42,456
Speaker 3: does count.

1404
00:56:42,696 --> 00:56:45,976
Speaker 7: Yeah, But also his stats speak for themselves.

1405
00:56:46,016 --> 00:56:49,256
Speaker 3: Like guy was dominant, he also played at times for

1406
00:56:49,296 --> 00:56:52,256
Speaker 3: a team that was not good, right with the Panthers.

1407
00:56:51,816 --> 00:56:55,856
Speaker 7: Which sometimes makes you overlook how great he.

1408
00:56:55,856 --> 00:56:59,056
Speaker 3: Was, the same thing has happened with Keighley. Yeah, and

1409
00:56:59,096 --> 00:57:01,216
Speaker 3: he is probably one of the greatest linebackers to ever

1410
00:57:01,216 --> 00:57:04,176
Speaker 3: play football. But I think people at times don't have

1411
00:57:04,216 --> 00:57:06,136
Speaker 3: the full understanding of how Greaty was because at times

1412
00:57:06,176 --> 00:57:07,096
Speaker 3: he played with the Panthers.

1413
00:57:07,256 --> 00:57:09,336
Speaker 8: He played with the Panthers. Panthers, And the other thing

1414
00:57:09,496 --> 00:57:14,976
Speaker 8: is his career was shortened because of injury. Lashawn McCoy, Mmm,

1415
00:57:16,336 --> 00:57:22,856
Speaker 8: he's on the cuss for me too, Bryant. No, okay,

1416
00:57:23,016 --> 00:57:26,336
Speaker 8: I'm with you. Still three for sure, unless you put

1417
00:57:26,336 --> 00:57:26,776
Speaker 8: Gore in there.

1418
00:57:26,776 --> 00:57:31,376
Speaker 3: For sure, you can come back to Gore. Uh uh.

1419
00:57:32,256 --> 00:57:36,416
Speaker 7: Marquise Pouncy gosh, how many years did he play?

1420
00:57:37,376 --> 00:57:39,856
Speaker 3: Years? I don't know, but I think I would put

1421
00:57:39,936 --> 00:57:40,496
Speaker 3: him in.

1422
00:57:41,256 --> 00:57:44,976
Speaker 8: Really and s I mean, all these guys have you

1423
00:57:45,016 --> 00:57:47,176
Speaker 8: can make an argument for all these guys. I think

1424
00:57:47,216 --> 00:57:49,416
Speaker 8: the thing the hard part for offensive lineman is they're

1425
00:57:49,416 --> 00:57:51,696
Speaker 8: not as visible. That's the yes, the fact that we

1426
00:57:51,816 --> 00:57:54,216
Speaker 8: know who he is, Yeah, that you know who Marquis

1427
00:57:54,296 --> 00:57:57,696
Speaker 8: Poncey is. How many Another thing is how many Super Bowls,

1428
00:57:58,576 --> 00:58:02,296
Speaker 8: sacks given up, whatever it might be. That kind of

1429
00:58:02,416 --> 00:58:04,616
Speaker 8: comes into play when you're talking about offensive line.

1430
00:58:04,736 --> 00:58:06,656
Speaker 7: Eleven years, eleven years?

1431
00:58:07,896 --> 00:58:10,736
Speaker 3: Uh, Okay, I'm gonna I'll come back. Philip Rivers.

1432
00:58:11,896 --> 00:58:13,416
Speaker 7: Oh, he's another guy.

1433
00:58:16,936 --> 00:58:18,976
Speaker 3: Only have two more? Well one more, and then we

1434
00:58:19,016 --> 00:58:23,216
Speaker 3: can go and insert three others. Uh, Steven Goskowski? Who Goskowski?

1435
00:58:23,256 --> 00:58:24,416
Speaker 3: Who didn't get in this this year?

1436
00:58:24,496 --> 00:58:24,656
Speaker 7: Right?

1437
00:58:24,816 --> 00:58:27,496
Speaker 3: M But I thought he would have got in this year.

1438
00:58:27,856 --> 00:58:29,576
Speaker 3: But he's he's also on the list. Did you play

1439
00:58:29,576 --> 00:58:32,416
Speaker 3: with I didn't. Stephen was with me for three years

1440
00:58:32,416 --> 00:58:35,416
Speaker 3: in New England. So we have to pick three from Gore,

1441
00:58:38,416 --> 00:58:41,896
Speaker 3: Lashawn McCoy, Pouncey, Rivers, Gaskowski.

1442
00:58:42,456 --> 00:58:47,816
Speaker 8: All right, I'm gonna go with Gore. Graskowski played a

1443
00:58:47,816 --> 00:58:50,776
Speaker 8: long time. He had what how many super Bowl championships?

1444
00:58:50,816 --> 00:58:51,496
Speaker 7: Did he have four?

1445
00:58:52,616 --> 00:58:53,896
Speaker 3: That's a that's a Kevin question.

1446
00:58:54,096 --> 00:58:56,536
Speaker 7: No, he was. He was posted the first three, so

1447
00:58:57,576 --> 00:58:58,696
Speaker 7: he's at least has three.

1448
00:58:59,816 --> 00:59:03,296
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Pouncey for sure, So that'd be my fourth.

1449
00:59:03,456 --> 00:59:05,576
Speaker 3: You know what, you can convince me on Gore, that'd

1450
00:59:05,616 --> 00:59:06,096
Speaker 3: be on my five.

1451
00:59:08,496 --> 00:59:09,656
Speaker 7: Hey, this is a tough less man.

1452
00:59:09,656 --> 00:59:11,176
Speaker 3: And Gus Kalski, I'm gonna go him to I think

1453
00:59:11,176 --> 00:59:12,656
Speaker 3: he should have got in last year. He's got three

1454
00:59:13,616 --> 00:59:15,376
Speaker 3: three super bowls?

1455
00:59:16,096 --> 00:59:17,456
Speaker 7: Is Venetia already in the Yeah?

1456
00:59:17,456 --> 00:59:18,136
Speaker 3: He went this year.

1457
00:59:18,536 --> 00:59:21,696
Speaker 7: This last year, last year, Yes, sorry, that's right.

1458
00:59:22,216 --> 00:59:25,456
Speaker 3: This year I went to the NFL Honors and he

1459
00:59:25,536 --> 00:59:27,416
Speaker 3: was there being honored for getting in it.

1460
00:59:27,736 --> 00:59:30,336
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, he's all Jack now right, Oh yeah, Oh.

1461
00:59:30,296 --> 00:59:32,176
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh yeah, he's like a big weightlifting guy.

1462
00:59:32,256 --> 00:59:33,296
Speaker 7: Peptides for sure.

1463
00:59:33,456 --> 00:59:35,056
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't, maybe you don't put six in.

1464
00:59:36,176 --> 00:59:37,416
Speaker 7: I'll go Steven for sure.

1465
00:59:37,496 --> 00:59:40,336
Speaker 8: I know Steven, and dude, the guy is rock solid,

1466
00:59:40,656 --> 00:59:46,736
Speaker 8: kicked as efficiently and effectively for as good as anybody

1467
00:59:46,776 --> 00:59:48,136
Speaker 8: for his duration.

1468
00:59:47,856 --> 00:59:48,376
Speaker 7: Of his career.

1469
00:59:48,536 --> 00:59:51,536
Speaker 3: Okay, then who do you think, without your personal opinion

1470
00:59:51,616 --> 00:59:53,096
Speaker 3: or bias, who do you think for sure gets in?

1471
00:59:54,616 --> 00:59:56,496
Speaker 7: I think the top three that we said.

1472
00:59:56,656 --> 00:59:59,816
Speaker 3: So Breeze for sure, Fitzgerald for sure, and.

1473
01:00:00,096 --> 01:00:01,656
Speaker 7: I don't think that if they I don't think they'd

1474
01:00:01,656 --> 01:00:02,616
Speaker 7: take another quarterback.

1475
01:00:03,096 --> 01:00:05,656
Speaker 3: I think Written to me is about eighty five percent center.

1476
01:00:05,696 --> 01:00:06,496
Speaker 3: I think he gets in.

1477
01:00:06,576 --> 01:00:09,096
Speaker 7: I think Witten is another one witting to me, he's

1478
01:00:09,216 --> 01:00:09,776
Speaker 7: going in.

1479
01:00:09,816 --> 01:00:13,176
Speaker 3: So Breeze, Fitzgerald and Whitten where universally those guys are in.

1480
01:00:14,616 --> 01:00:16,056
Speaker 7: And then I think Frank Worr is going in.

1481
01:00:16,856 --> 01:00:20,416
Speaker 3: Man, you almost have to permit for being that active

1482
01:00:21,056 --> 01:00:23,656
Speaker 3: for that long at a high level for that long

1483
01:00:23,896 --> 01:00:26,056
Speaker 3: sixteen years, and the high level thing is important. You

1484
01:00:26,056 --> 01:00:27,776
Speaker 3: can't just be that active for that long and get

1485
01:00:27,816 --> 01:00:30,616
Speaker 3: in or would be the hall of being Well, well, I'm.

1486
01:00:30,416 --> 01:00:32,536
Speaker 8: Sure he's got a million different stats, how many thousand

1487
01:00:32,616 --> 01:00:34,856
Speaker 8: yard seasons, everything else that go along with it.

1488
01:00:34,856 --> 01:00:36,856
Speaker 3: It's a good class, good class. I think it's a

1489
01:00:36,856 --> 01:00:38,496
Speaker 3: good class, really good class. What are you going to

1490
01:00:38,536 --> 01:00:41,056
Speaker 3: do to pict yourself? Just go lay, take a bath.

1491
01:00:41,376 --> 01:00:45,056
Speaker 8: I'm probably going to take multiple guys Jared all party,

1492
01:00:45,176 --> 01:00:46,376
Speaker 8: go to Jared Allen's party.

1493
01:00:46,416 --> 01:00:48,856
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get so you can get back at it.

1494
01:00:48,976 --> 01:00:51,176
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it'll just get back on the horse.

1495
01:00:51,256 --> 01:00:54,016
Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta gotta get ride that horse. Get well

1496
01:00:54,096 --> 01:00:55,936
Speaker 3: so you can get I get bucked off.

1497
01:00:55,696 --> 01:00:57,136
Speaker 7: But you know what, little hair of the dog.

1498
01:00:57,336 --> 01:00:58,976
Speaker 3: Hey, Now, I was gonna see if you're going to

1499
01:00:59,056 --> 01:01:00,616
Speaker 3: play golf on Thursday, but I think you just need

1500
01:01:00,656 --> 01:01:01,216
Speaker 3: a hill up.

1501
01:01:01,536 --> 01:01:04,496
Speaker 7: It's my wife's birthday on Thursday. Baby, I'm asked.

1502
01:01:04,296 --> 01:01:07,176
Speaker 3: Them to play golf. I don't know anywhere from two

1503
01:01:07,216 --> 01:01:09,216
Speaker 3: to seventy times. I'm not sure. It's aways a family

1504
01:01:09,456 --> 01:01:11,536
Speaker 3: and so well, when you have five kids and a wife,

1505
01:01:12,536 --> 01:01:14,696
Speaker 3: it's always my yes.

1506
01:01:14,336 --> 01:01:16,136
Speaker 8: But it was my way it is my wife's birthday,

1507
01:01:16,136 --> 01:01:16,936
Speaker 8: it would be kind of hard bread.

1508
01:01:17,136 --> 01:01:18,256
Speaker 7: Then. I love you so much.

1509
01:01:18,256 --> 01:01:19,856
Speaker 3: I always want to say, get your mouth off my

1510
01:01:19,896 --> 01:01:24,816
Speaker 3: balls out there. So all right, all right, that's it.

1511
01:01:25,296 --> 01:01:26,176
Speaker 3: I hope you feel better.

1512
01:01:26,336 --> 01:01:26,856
Speaker 7: No, thank you.

1513
01:01:26,936 --> 01:01:29,016
Speaker 8: I'm already feeling better just seeing you and knowing that

1514
01:01:29,376 --> 01:01:31,136
Speaker 8: a bath is my way to healing.

1515
01:01:31,296 --> 01:01:31,816
Speaker 7: That's it.

1516
01:01:32,096 --> 01:01:35,496
Speaker 3: No, it literally is it is? You think I'm kidding.

1517
01:01:35,576 --> 01:01:36,056
Speaker 7: No, I'm not.

1518
01:01:36,136 --> 01:01:39,296
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going I'm going to give you a listen

1519
01:01:39,376 --> 01:01:41,456
Speaker 3: as someone who speaks for a living every day for

1520
01:01:42,936 --> 01:01:44,576
Speaker 3: at times for seven or eight hours a day. Right,

1521
01:01:44,616 --> 01:01:46,536
Speaker 3: this is my this is my instrument.

1522
01:01:46,936 --> 01:01:47,736
Speaker 7: That's your instrument.

1523
01:01:48,136 --> 01:01:51,656
Speaker 3: So if you do some like I guess they don't

1524
01:01:51,656 --> 01:01:53,656
Speaker 3: really do bing gay anymore. Did you have been gay

1525
01:01:53,656 --> 01:01:55,856
Speaker 3: back in your day? Oh yeah, okay, now what is

1526
01:01:55,896 --> 01:01:58,896
Speaker 3: it? It's like icy hot if you do any of the

1527
01:01:59,056 --> 01:02:01,896
Speaker 3: icy hot stuff in the bath. Yeah, it's like times three.

1528
01:02:02,696 --> 01:02:02,816
Speaker 8: Man.

1529
01:02:02,896 --> 01:02:04,776
Speaker 7: I remember there's stuff called atomic bomb.

1530
01:02:04,896 --> 01:02:06,296
Speaker 3: Oh no, that like b A L MBALLM.

1531
01:02:06,736 --> 01:02:08,336
Speaker 7: Dude. Did you used to rub it on? It was

1532
01:02:08,376 --> 01:02:08,816
Speaker 7: like fire?

1533
01:02:09,136 --> 01:02:10,296
Speaker 3: Can you can you get it? Though?

1534
01:02:10,336 --> 01:02:12,336
Speaker 7: Now I'm sure you can. They have it in every

1535
01:02:12,336 --> 01:02:12,856
Speaker 7: training room.

1536
01:02:12,856 --> 01:02:14,056
Speaker 3: But if you take a bath. With that stuff on

1537
01:02:14,056 --> 01:02:17,856
Speaker 3: your chest, It's like it lifts the devil out of you.

1538
01:02:18,016 --> 01:02:19,696
Speaker 7: I didn't know that you were pre med when you

1539
01:02:19,816 --> 01:02:20,616
Speaker 7: went to college.

1540
01:02:22,096 --> 01:02:23,976
Speaker 3: I am not. However, I am a doctor.

1541
01:02:24,136 --> 01:02:24,896
Speaker 7: I am a doctor.

1542
01:02:25,016 --> 01:02:26,616
Speaker 3: I am a doctor. I have a Doctor of Letters

1543
01:02:27,016 --> 01:02:28,136
Speaker 3: in the University of Arkansas.

1544
01:02:28,176 --> 01:02:29,936
Speaker 7: Did they give that to you? They did? Doctor.

1545
01:02:32,296 --> 01:02:35,736
Speaker 3: I'm still if I wanted to call myself doctor doctor.

1546
01:02:35,536 --> 01:02:37,776
Speaker 7: I legally could the good doctor mister Bell.

1547
01:02:37,976 --> 01:02:39,816
Speaker 3: When I'm on campus, they have to refer to me

1548
01:02:39,936 --> 01:02:45,696
Speaker 3: as doctor doctor. It's hilarious. Come on, Yes, I'm an

1549
01:02:45,736 --> 01:02:48,896
Speaker 3: honorary doctor, except I could like Bill Cosby.

1550
01:02:48,976 --> 01:02:51,016
Speaker 7: I hate to reference him, but he's he.

1551
01:02:51,896 --> 01:02:55,256
Speaker 3: He was always doctor William Cosby, and he put that

1552
01:02:55,296 --> 01:02:57,896
Speaker 3: in his actual name. But he was just an honorary doctor.

1553
01:02:58,376 --> 01:02:59,136
Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't know.

1554
01:02:59,136 --> 01:03:01,616
Speaker 8: If you're an honorary you can go around floating the

1555
01:03:01,616 --> 01:03:02,976
Speaker 8: doctor term have a diploma.

1556
01:03:03,336 --> 01:03:05,456
Speaker 7: Yeah, but guys went to I mean people.

1557
01:03:05,216 --> 01:03:07,416
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not saying a medical doctor for twenty years.

1558
01:03:07,456 --> 01:03:09,856
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm a medical doctor. But my deeds

1559
01:03:09,896 --> 01:03:12,936
Speaker 3: and my service to my stay true have allowed them

1560
01:03:12,976 --> 01:03:15,656
Speaker 3: to honorarily give me a doctor. I will not. I

1561
01:03:15,656 --> 01:03:18,176
Speaker 3: can't prescribe anything, but I do prescribe. You do some

1562
01:03:18,376 --> 01:03:19,096
Speaker 3: icy hot in your chest.

1563
01:03:19,256 --> 01:03:19,656
Speaker 7: Icy hot.

1564
01:03:19,696 --> 01:03:22,256
Speaker 3: Take it back as sauce. Hey, pleasure back.

1565
01:03:22,336 --> 01:03:23,536
Speaker 7: I'm good, I'm Ready're good.

1566
01:03:23,896 --> 01:03:25,656
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for being here. Thanks to the Titans

1567
01:03:25,656 --> 01:03:26,536
Speaker 3: for having us out.

1568
01:03:26,816 --> 01:03:27,496
Speaker 7: Hope you have a good.

1569
01:03:27,376 --> 01:03:27,976
Speaker 3: Trip this weekend.

1570
01:03:28,136 --> 01:03:28,416
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1571
01:03:28,656 --> 01:03:29,096
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

1572
01:03:29,176 --> 01:03:29,776
Speaker 7: Let's go Jered.

1573
01:03:30,216 --> 01:03:33,456
Speaker 3: That is Matt Castle. Let's kick off, Kevin. That's Brandon Ray.

1574
01:03:33,456 --> 01:03:36,136
Speaker 3: I'm Bobby Bones. We've had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody.

1575
01:03:41,216 --> 01:03:43,416
Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is

1576
01:03:43,456 --> 01:03:47,016
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01:03:47,056 --> 01:03:50,936
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