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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. I'm Mark vander Meer here on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access and we have the General John McClain with

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Speaker 1: us tonight and also John Harris joining us a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. And the big news today about NFL owners

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Speaker 1: meeting and approving of the extension of the collective Bargaining Agreement.

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Speaker 1: Now that's one side of things. The players still have

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Speaker 1: to approve this, so that's the big part of it. Actually,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is the big part of it, and the

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Speaker 1: players have already been well informed as to what this

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Speaker 1: is all about. But it's very exciting stuff. Seventeen games,

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Speaker 1: seven playoff teams per conference among the highlights. So general,

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Speaker 1: here we are the CBA. It's coming around the bend. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the Johnny Cash frame of mind because I've

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Speaker 1: been watching that Ken Burns country music documentary on PBS

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Speaker 1: on demand stuff. Anyway, how are you doing. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you weren't trying to be one of those guys on

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Speaker 1: there who is yodeling back in the forties. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. I don't yodel, but I can

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Speaker 1: fake Johnny Cash for about three seconds. And then because

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Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix did it in the movie and he actually

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Speaker 1: did a he didn't imitated. I mean, he did a

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Speaker 1: good job, and he's a good actor. He did a

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Speaker 1: nice job. Anyway, So it's coming around the bend and

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Speaker 1: here we go, seventeen games and another playoff team per conference.

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Speaker 1: And we've been talking about this for a few years,

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Speaker 1: but now that it is really here, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: here officially soon enough. What are your thoughts? I am

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Speaker 1: so tired of hearing all his whining by media people

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Speaker 1: and some players about having to play an extra game.

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Speaker 1: The NFL used to play twelve games. They went to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: They went from fourteen to sixteen. Somehow, the players survived. Somehow,

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Speaker 1: the game grew and became the most popular sport in

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Speaker 1: the country. And now you would think they've asked them to,

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Speaker 1: you know, play with one arm tied behind their back.

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Speaker 1: Are these national media people, Oh my god, how are

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Speaker 1: they going to play an extra game? Players play for

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Speaker 1: two reasons. They play to win, and they play for

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Speaker 1: it to get paid. And the fact is if they

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Speaker 1: worried about the health issues, they wouldn't be playing football.

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Speaker 1: You know, nothing good comes out of playing football for

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Speaker 1: your health. And in this deal that's been proposed by

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Speaker 1: the owners, if indeed they agree to the seventeenth game,

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Speaker 1: and they will, is that would mean over the life

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Speaker 1: of the deal ten years, five billion more to the players.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a lot of players, and that's you divide

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Speaker 1: it up by years. I don't know how much it

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Speaker 1: comes out to or where it would go, but every

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Speaker 1: time they've gone up in games, the players have made

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Speaker 1: more money. And that's why I know they're going to

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Speaker 1: do it. Kids, Do we have two buys guessing we will?

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Speaker 1: Do they play that seventeenth game at neutral sights, which

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Speaker 1: they want to do, which I think would create a

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Speaker 1: lot of interest. Play in Toronto, Vancouver, China, play another

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Speaker 1: in Germany, play another game in Mexico City where ninety

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Speaker 1: five thou show up. The NFL's not going to go

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Speaker 1: somewhere if they don't know that game is going to

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Speaker 1: be sold out in a record amount of time. That's

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Speaker 1: why there's been NFL International for decades. At the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: they bring in all this international media to cover it,

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Speaker 1: and they treat those media people like royalty things that

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Speaker 1: we don't do. Maybe they did in the old days,

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Speaker 1: but they treat them like royalty, and then they go

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Speaker 1: back all over the world and write and broadcast glorious

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Speaker 1: things about the NFL. And I think this seventeenth game

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Speaker 1: is going to be tremendous anything that gets rid of

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Speaker 1: preseason games, and I'm all for it and I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see it implemented. The only thing that hurts

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Speaker 1: the teams in the last year of a CBA you

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Speaker 1: get to use the franchise and transition tag if indeed

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Speaker 1: they tore up the last year and started to the

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Speaker 1: new when immediately you wouldn't get to use the franchise

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Speaker 1: and the transition. It'd be like every other year either

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Speaker 1: or but a small price to pay. Yeah, and there

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Speaker 1: are ways around everything, really, as the union will have

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Speaker 1: to vote on this sort of thing. I kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Pro Football Talk take on. Hey, the owners

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Speaker 1: got together in a big hurry today, but the players

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Speaker 1: them a little bit longer to get together. The player

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Speaker 1: they don't they playing player reps, not any other executive board,

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Speaker 1: and most of the rank and file whatever my union

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Speaker 1: leader says, right, and they have to sign off on it.

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Speaker 1: But it's only like fifty one percent something like that.

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Speaker 1: And once he gets to the executive board, after the

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Speaker 1: player reps, if signed off, it's a done deal. They're

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Speaker 1: really close to an extension. And remember when Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: paid for it. He's something million a year, No, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Most of that was in bonus. And the biggest bonus

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Speaker 1: a strike and we're unable to get this deal done,

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Speaker 1: obviously they're gonna get it done and he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: a monster bonus. Well, I think not only not losing games,

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Speaker 1: work stoppage at all, because in twenty eleven, and I

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Speaker 1: was explaining this to my fourteen year old son, and

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Speaker 1: but there was a big work stoppage and you didn't

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Speaker 1: lose games. You only lost a Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: But it was a real huge story because the players

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Speaker 1: what that meant in a labor situation, there was a draft.

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Speaker 1: Watt came in, got his playbook, but went right back

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Speaker 1: kids after their tragic family accident and all of that.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't see anybody until late July, and that

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Speaker 1: was a fun free agency blitz right after they settled

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Speaker 1: lockout two eleven, let him learn about the strike and

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Speaker 1: scab football in nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, scab football. Look

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Speaker 1: at you, a union man saying that it's replacement football. Jot.

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Speaker 1: They used to tell us that because I covered it,

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Speaker 1: union for the scabs because they put them through three

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Speaker 1: wild and crazy. I can't hope it never goes to that.

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Speaker 1: I know me too, but I get it from the

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Speaker 1: player's perspective. You don't want to see that because they're

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Speaker 1: taking your spots and they're going to broadcast and put

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Speaker 1: these games on. And they did, and it was such

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Speaker 1: a unique time in NFL history that so many people

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Speaker 1: the games. Poor Kurt Goudy was the radio announcer for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots that year, very late in his career. He

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Speaker 1: And Kurt Goudy, who comes in at that stage of

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Speaker 1: so none of it really mattered. But the players harassing

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Speaker 1: their dream. You put on an NFL uniform and just

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Speaker 1: a joy for them. But John, you remember that time.

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Speaker 1: I just want to go down. Remember that time. You know,

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the league was, who was that?

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Speaker 1: Keanu Raves. Yeah, yeah, fictionally he was well. Numerous guys

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Speaker 1: crossed the picket line. Doug Flutie was one of them

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Speaker 1: for that, a lot of people. I talked to Jim Bowman,

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Speaker 1: He did color commentary for me when I was the

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Speaker 1: voice of you Mask, and he said, I said, how

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's incredible stuff right there. And numerous guys did.

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Speaker 1: They started to come in as they felt like this

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Speaker 1: And for the players that got to stay and play

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Speaker 1: with the when the strike was over, they weren't accepted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did with the scabbed players who were kept. What

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Speaker 1: about the playoff situation here, as you'll have fourteen teams

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Speaker 1: instead of twelve you have one per each conference extra

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. In the c for instance, the

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Speaker 1: As you have triple headers on Saturday and Sunday of

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Speaker 1: wild card weekend. What's wrong with that? More football? Every

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Speaker 1: many people and wind and cried because it's watered down

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Speaker 1: all about change, and going to a seventeenth game and

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Speaker 1: adding another team in the playoffs will be tremendous well,

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Speaker 1: and more money. Again, you know, not only the seventeenth

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Speaker 1: is that worth to a network to have one of

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Speaker 1: those windows where you're just getting colossal numbers in January?

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Speaker 1: That's huge. They want to get this deal done before

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Speaker 1: the new network TV deal comes down, right, They all

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Speaker 1: make like two hundred twenty five million each per each

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Speaker 1: This will be the first time that streaming rights will

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Speaker 1: have multiple teams competing. And you know, if you end

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Speaker 1: TV's kind of their deal is about to come up

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Speaker 1: in another year. The NFL is a money making machine.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna guess since B's is a big sports fan,

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Speaker 1: streaming rights. You know, Bill Gates never cared. So Bill

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Speaker 1: Gates his partner Paul Allen, was But if Bill Gates.

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Speaker 1: I always wondered those two guys grew up best friends.

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Speaker 1: One didn't know what a football or baseball was, the

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Speaker 1: other one was fanatic about sports when they were young

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Speaker 1: and everybody was playing sports. What I guess Bill Gates

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Speaker 1: just fiddled with his computer and make Yeah, Biggins and Bagas.

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Speaker 1: That's right he did. And look how it worked out

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Speaker 1: Back into early days, did you go watch the workouts

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Speaker 1: move Derek Carr. What's the market like for Derek Carr?

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Speaker 1: Can't be that great? Oh not again, it's a buyer's market.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want Derek Carr, you can get

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Speaker 1: him on the cheap relatively, you think, yeah, And if

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Speaker 1: you want Brady, what's he gonna cost? If you're the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: if you're the cults of your whoever, and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to go get if you're New England. Is he gonna

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Speaker 1: go back to New England for a discount? No, he

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Speaker 1: wants the gigantic money. I would imagine, Hey, where's my

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Speaker 1: balloon payment at the end of my career, mortgages due,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Would you pay him thirty five forty million

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Speaker 1: a year? I wouldn't. If I'm who am I? Well say,

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Speaker 1: you're the Raiders and you think he'll help you because

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Speaker 1: the Raiders don't need a big name quarterback to sell tickets.

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Speaker 1: The one that needs Brady the most Chargers. Their offensive

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Speaker 1: lines awful, and I can't imagine Brady would subject himself

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Speaker 1: to a poor offensive line. Cults, they couldn't protect anybody.

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Speaker 1: I think the cults are gonna get Rivers, so Rivers

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Speaker 1: and Frank Reich can be reunited. Oh, interesting point. Then

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Speaker 1: they'll use their first pick on a fast receiver like

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Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs the third to go with t Y Hilton

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Speaker 1: and Paris Campbell, all of them running the four threes. Well,

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Speaker 1: John Harris was asking me what in Tennessee, for instance,

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Speaker 1: would I rather see Rivers or Tannehill or Brady of

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Speaker 1: those three? As a Texan, which would I'd rather see?

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Speaker 1: I'm saying Tannehill, I don't want to. You're gonna see Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: There's other guys that are not. He doesn't hit the market. No,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get Ryan Tannehill signed, or they'll tag him,

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Speaker 1: or they'll tag him with that. I'd be nice for Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: him and Derrick Henry. If I'm Tannahill, I'm finding tag.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather get the contract they get it,

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna be a lot of money. You'll end

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Speaker 1: up with like a three year deal. So Brady has

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Speaker 1: got New England. I don't think Indianapolis and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis might offer him some preposterous deal like you

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Speaker 1: did John Gruden, an unprecedented deal so he can hang

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Speaker 1: out with him, and then Rivers goes to be reunited

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Speaker 1: with Frank right behind a great offensive line with a

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Speaker 1: good tidy and good receivers and a good running back.

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Speaker 1: And that If I'm Brady, I'm trying to go there.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, pick me, pick me over Rivers. What does

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Speaker 1: New England do if Brady leaves? I read it, and well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I saw a thing. Their long time

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Speaker 1: media people think that he will resign there. But there

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Speaker 1: was a thing that they their second year quarterback, Jared Stidham.

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Speaker 1: That remember Tom Brady was didn't do squad as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and then he had to play the second year and

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Speaker 1: the rest is history. That they liked Jared Stidham a lot.

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Speaker 1: It could be Stidham with a sign of another veteran

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Speaker 1: to come in there like Mariota. Here's the problem. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe Stidham is that guy. But you don't know until

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean you gotta see it. And it

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Speaker 1: didn't for Brady. Happened right away. I mean, the leadership

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Speaker 1: was there and they were winning games. They had a

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Speaker 1: really good team, great defense. You look at guys like

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Speaker 1: Brady and Roethlisberger really early in their career, go look

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Speaker 1: at the numbers, and the numbers got a lot better

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Speaker 1: as they played more. And that doesn't happen with everybody,

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Speaker 1: So be careful what you asked for New England. And

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Speaker 1: then there's Patrick Mahomes in his second season. Well there

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Speaker 1: his filt first season playing. I mean he got that

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Speaker 1: one appearance. Yeah, that's that's a good point. That's a

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Speaker 1: good point. So yeah, that is not of course, that's

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Speaker 1: the exception. Yes, you think Tannehill hits, doesn't hit the market,

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Speaker 1: he gets signed before the year begins. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these people are going to sign. I keep seeing these

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Speaker 1: lists of unrestricted free agents, and they all start with

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Speaker 1: guys who are not going anywhere. Well, but that's his

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Speaker 1: according to you, and they're projecting. They're projected. It is

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Speaker 1: the wrong word. They are in line to hit the market,

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Speaker 1: but they won't hit the market if they resign with

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Speaker 1: their printing one of those lists till we get to

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Speaker 1: till we see who gets resigned. Okay, little wasting space,

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Speaker 1: let's bring it in the building. Brandon Donne signs an

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Speaker 1: extension with people. Tell well, they resigned Brandon. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean they've given up on DJ Reader. No, they haven't

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Speaker 1: given up on DJ. They just haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: sign him, right. They tried to sign him last offseason,

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Speaker 1: during the season, after the season. And DJ's a nose tackle,

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Speaker 1: he's not a pass rusher. Nose tackles don't get paid

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Speaker 1: monster bucks. But he's so valuable, he's such a good guy.

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Speaker 1: I think, JJ, why I start crying if DJ Reader left? Well?

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Speaker 1: I love Reader, and so did all the players, so

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Speaker 1: did the media. We I you know, I hate it

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Speaker 1: when they don't when they're good talkers leave. So I

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Speaker 1: gotta think they're bringing DJ back. They got the money

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Speaker 1: to do it, because if you let him go, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Dunn's not stepping in there to be a regular starter.

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Speaker 1: And then you got to go find somebody else, right,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they would. And look, they've got blacks, and

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Speaker 1: if they had to line up this week, for instance,

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Speaker 1: without Reader, then Dunn's playing. You have just started on

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Speaker 1: the those ten games when JJ was at right, you

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Speaker 1: have done JJ blacks and who You've got guys like

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Speaker 1: they've got all our guys back. But they need to

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Speaker 1: get better, right, they need to get better. But that's

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Speaker 1: a position group that looks pretty solid. I hesitate to say,

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Speaker 1: even without Reader, you're a whole lot better with Reader.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is a reason not to

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Speaker 1: sign Reader, because he's a really good player. You'd love

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Speaker 1: to have him. But I think they'll look at it, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this for sure, but they'll look

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Speaker 1: at it as we have other needs, like in their

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Speaker 1: hierarchy of needs, John where is resigning DJ Reader versus

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Speaker 1: some other things that they feel they might need. And again,

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Speaker 1: not that that means you wouldn't take care of that

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Speaker 1: on the d line. But they have some other needs

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean they want to add to the

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Speaker 1: pass rush. I would think they better start with cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Can already mentioned the wide receiver. Truth is they don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of needs on offense. Assuming Carlos Hide's

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Speaker 1: going to be resigned. They've tried to sign him at

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Speaker 1: adn't worked, tried to sign Darren Fells. They got four

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Speaker 1: tight ends. But of the guys on the team with

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Speaker 1: nineteen unrestricted free agents, I think Reader is at the

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Speaker 1: top of the list. I don't expect Robie back, but

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Speaker 1: I think Reader will be And I think they'll try

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Speaker 1: to resign Our Graves if he'd take less money. They

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Speaker 1: didn't want to pick up a fifth year option for

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Speaker 1: ten million for him. That was a financial deal, and

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Speaker 1: so I think I think that that they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have any contract issues they don't want to have. They

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Speaker 1: don't lose a lot of guys that they're dying to keep.

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Speaker 1: Let me go full on media speculation with you, do

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Speaker 1: you think Bill O'Brien makes a trade before the draft

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Speaker 1: of any kind? Before the draft. There's a reason he's

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Speaker 1: named trader Bill, you named him, if you go back,

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Speaker 1: I have people wondering why I call him that they

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Speaker 1: don't remember trader Jack and a baseball lord. And I

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Speaker 1: think people are asking you about this. I have based

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Speaker 1: on what we saw Bill O'Brien do so far, all

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Speaker 1: those trades he's made, I'd be shocked if he's not

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Speaker 1: trading right, but at least during the draft to turn

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Speaker 1: what should be eight picks after compensed story picks into

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Speaker 1: more picks. And also, I think he'll be aggressive in

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Speaker 1: free agency. And I don't think he's gonna sign anybody

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Speaker 1: to a record contract, but I think he's gonna spend

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Speaker 1: some money. Okay, now, a couple of minutes left. I

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Speaker 1: know that we're going to Endie next week and Florida

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Speaker 1: the next month. The owners meetings in West Palm or

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach at the breakers. I'll be down between those

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Speaker 1: for another trip to Florida. I'm going to West Palms.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're not allowed to see the name. No,

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Speaker 1: you are allowed to see the leagues not using the

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Speaker 1: name Astros. Look, this is this is tough. I know

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Speaker 1: in this market it's it's unfathomable. But in other markets

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Speaker 1: that name has really taken a few dents in this

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Speaker 1: whole ordeal. I think the Astros are gonna face what's

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Speaker 1: been unprecedented in baseball history. They're gonna have to have

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Speaker 1: extra security and their dugout around their dugout. I think

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be fights on the field. I think fans

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Speaker 1: are gonna be getting fights in stadiums, including Minute Made

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Speaker 1: Park when louthmouse come in from other teams, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to watch. And you hope if you're

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Speaker 1: an Astros fan, they kick some serious butt and shut

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Speaker 1: people up. I mean, if their name is banned in

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Speaker 1: this country for a little league. You already have the

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Speaker 1: Rockets banned in China, you have the Astros banned in

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Speaker 1: the United States. Hey, the Texans, We're not banned, not banned.

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Speaker 1: That's the new slogan for twenty twenty. Not banned, We're

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Speaker 1: We're not We're legal. I mean, but ye, Jamie, I

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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna catch on really, but you know, it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's really weird. It's a weird time in Houston sports history.

590
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: And all the teams are good. That's another thing. It's

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Speaker 1: not like if they're all bad nobody would care about

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Speaker 1: the Astros. But all the teams are still good. They're competitive,

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Speaker 1: and that's what makes it even more interesting. I did

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Speaker 1: say on the air last week that the Astros made

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Speaker 1: it a bigger problem by actually winning the championship. This

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Speaker 1: is going on, but they lost it last year, lost

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Speaker 1: four games at home. Yes, everybody still thinks they cheated. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you bring it out. You lose four games

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Speaker 1: at home, and if you're cheating, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: They don't have a response. They were close games. They've

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Speaker 1: been blaying for everything. Yeah, it's true. They've been blaying,

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00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Bobal warming and you know, but that's that's what happens.

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: When you know you're you're caught with one thing, a

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00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: lot of things get brought in with that, and people

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Speaker 1: don't give you a benefit of that bottom line mark,

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Speaker 1: and you know it, they brought it on themselves. You

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Speaker 1: don't do that. We're not going through anything right exactly, John,

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Speaker 1: What do you have going on on the Chronicle? I've

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Speaker 1: got Aaron Wilson and I have a two podcasts on

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Speaker 1: the Texans and our mock draft, and who we have

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Speaker 1: in our third mock draft of Texans taking in this one.

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Speaker 1: We try to change it around for need position. Every week.

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Speaker 1: I have a chat on Texas Sports Nation dot com.

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Speaker 1: I have a story about how June Jones influenced Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes's career, and then I'll have a column Sunday on

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Speaker 1: the Texans offense. It's a beautiful thing. Thank you, John,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Mark. There's John McClain from the

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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle. John Harris coming up next, and there's going

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Speaker 1: to be a historical precedent next year at a certain

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Speaker 1: Texans game. We'll get to that, among other things on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. It's been a chili Thursday, but it's

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Speaker 1: nice and warm here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio

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Speaker 1: and hopefully in your car or wherever you're listening right now.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermayer with you with John Harris in studio. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing well, Mark, I have been,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I have been in the Harris one hundred

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Speaker 1: all day long. Oh I am in the thicket. I

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Speaker 1: am just how close are we to having this thing?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh? I just I mean, Mark, I should show

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Speaker 1: you what number are you on? I kind of don't

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Speaker 1: go in order. I'm on fifty two and a half. No,

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Speaker 1: I wish I I try to watch positions at a

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Speaker 1: time because it's just easier because if you watch Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow and then you watched two a Tongue of Ylo

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Speaker 1: right afterwards, and you watch Jordan Love, you sort of

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Speaker 1: have kind of a basis of comparison, like, Okay, here's

637
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Speaker 1: some of the things that you forget, don't you not forget?

638
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: But you have to refresh your memory certain things. Absolutely,

639
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Speaker 1: And I mean if guys that have studied, and a

640
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of these guys have studied during the summer, but

641
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Speaker 1: I wish I could show you what one of my

642
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: I just finished my Jordan Love report. I've just finished

643
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: the written part of it, and it's enormous. Uh. I mean,

644
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Speaker 1: it's like I just kept going, I kept going, don't

645
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: these have to be uniform? And they got to fit

646
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Speaker 1: in a box ft of thing? Their capsules. Here in

647
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Speaker 1: my Justin Herbert and you're gonna need your glasses for this,

648
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: but these are my Justin Herbert and Jordan Love ones.

649
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I'll show you and you can, oh my gosh, Magna carta,

650
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Speaker 1: oh gosh. But that's the way you have to do it.

651
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: If you see things on film. You put it down

652
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: two thousand words on each guy. Yeah, pretty much. So

653
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the thicket, so I'm trying to

654
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to work my way out. I'm trying to

655
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Speaker 1: work my way out of the weeds. Yeah, and get

656
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Speaker 1: get to a point where it can be ready after

657
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: they come. My goal has been and is a week

658
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Speaker 1: after the combine that it'll be ready to at least

659
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Speaker 1: i'd be ready for me to submit it. So hopefully, uh,

660
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Speaker 1: probably around March eighth, March ninth, somewhere around that time,

661
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: because I want to update with all the combine times.

662
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: And then you've got one hundred and how many hundred

663
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: and twenty players that declared early, so you're getting official

664
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Speaker 1: measurements on them. It's a lot of guy that's a

665
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: lot of rounds of players declaring early, and you know

666
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some broken hearts in that group. Oh,

667
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: there's no question, I mean, no matter what I mean,

668
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Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a first round or

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Speaker 1: you go on the fourth round, and then you got

670
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Speaker 1: those guys that are like, oh I'm going in the

671
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: second round that they don't get drafted. Yeah, so they

672
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: have to be self aware of self awareness and good

673
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: advice from people. And look, I know that some of

674
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: those guys, some might not be on target for graduation exactly,

675
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: and they're thinking, well, I gotta get whatever I can

676
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: right now. It's time to come out and try to

677
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: be a professional football player and play however long I can.

678
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I can go back and get my degree. Maybe

679
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, but this is the time

680
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: to be a pro. And I just think it's a

681
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: tough job. It's a tough sport because other sports you're

682
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: able to earn pro earlier in life. Yes, you know,

683
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: you can be a golfer, soccer player or whatever. You

684
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: can turn pro. Not that it's easy there either, but

685
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: it's it's not allowed in the National Football League until

686
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: three years after your high school class graduates. Quick thoughts

687
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: before I get to that Texans history making moment this

688
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: upcoming season. Your thoughts on seventeen games. We've talked about

689
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: this a lot, seven playoff teams per conference. If this

690
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Speaker 1: does indeed go through, I do like this. I think

691
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: it's good for the league. Seventeen games to me still

692
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: feels like a lot. But if you cut down a

693
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: preseason and reduce the wear and tear. Who knows what

694
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: they do with the rosters. I do think it's a

695
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: better deal. Yeah for the fans. Yeah, I think it's

696
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Speaker 1: gonna be I mean, to have a third playoff game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it in OH nine in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. I saw somebody posted in fourteen, I think

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00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: we would have played the Stabroncos at Denver, which would

700
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: have been interesting because the Colts went to Denver and

701
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: beat Denver in that divisional round after the bye week.

702
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: That was not a great That was not a great

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00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 1: Denver team. And we have been case Keenum starting at Denver.

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Speaker 1: How about that? For the Houston Texans in the playoffs? Case?

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00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: Why not? He played well in those last two games,

706
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: especially against the Raven. Yeah. So to have an additional

707
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: playoff game, I think it's gonna be fun. Look, is

708
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: it gonna be perfect? No? How about O nine? But

709
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Speaker 1: O nine? Who do we have played? I forgot I

710
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: saw this because San Diego, I think, all right, and

711
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: it was San Diego. I think it was San Diego

712
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: that we would have played and match shop and you

713
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: know what that would have been. That team could have

714
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: gone on a little something there yet could have got

715
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: at the right time. They got hot. They had a

716
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: defense that was thirteenth in the league with Mario Demko,

717
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Brian Cushing as a rookie smoking hot, and match Shop

718
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: playing well. Arian Foster just burst out of the scene.

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Speaker 1: Nobody would have Oh yeah, that would have been interesting.

720
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: And I'd like how Florio was very quick to point

721
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: out with this new format last decade, you have no

722
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: losing teams making it. I saw somebody's tweet and I

723
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was. I wish you could give credit.

724
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Speaker 1: You're not getting a bunch of seven and nins in there.

725
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: But he said, well, it'd have to be eight and

726
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: nine now, he said. He basically was recounting a conversation like, hey, congratulations,

727
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: number two seed, thirteen and four team, you're gonna get

728
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: a visit from the eight and nine Jets one o'clock

729
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Cracked up. But you know it would have

730
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: been it would have been interesting to see what would

731
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: have happened. Boy, these records, you know, it's kind of

732
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: like with college football we're used doing now with the

733
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: twelve games season. We have gotten used to twelve, but

734
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: we have time. It was eleven games and then six

735
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: and five winning season. That was it exactly. It's like,

736
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Speaker 1: you get the six wins. You wait a second, you

737
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: get the six wins now, Yeah, So it's a it's

738
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: a little different, will it Just you know, we're too

739
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: young to remember or maybe we weren't born yet for

740
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: the fourteen games season in the National Football League. You know,

741
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: now you have sixteen. I felt very bruck oswilery and

742
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: saying National Football League that way. I know I say

743
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: it sometimes, but it just felt that way. Well, sometimes

744
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: it's for emphasis, and I'm sure that's why Brock did

745
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: it as well, was to emphasize it is hard to

746
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: win games in the National Football League. He was trying

747
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: to emphasize things. So I'm I'm all about more football.

748
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I mean, but I'm not.

749
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm not playing at games. I'm curious to hear from

750
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: the guys when they get back. Well, look, you're gonna

751
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: produce the preseason, You're gonna add to the regular season.

752
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: That from a fan perspective, is in gold. Very things

753
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: I heard Mike Garafalo talking about in this New CBA

754
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: is that. And in this he was not saying this

755
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: was gospel, but he was saying this is what he

756
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: had heard from multiple channels. I eat multiple people that

757
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: knew what the was it. What is in the proposed

758
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: term sheet that they're going to send to the players

759
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: was that training camp would have a longer acclamation period,

760
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: which in Houston I think is massively important before hitting. Right,

761
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: So that would mean what that means is you would

762
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: have now now now I think there's two days, you

763
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: have to go two days without pads. This it sounds

764
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: like you'd go five days about pads. I know who,

765
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: I know one individual in this billy who's not going

766
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: to be a fan of that one. Yes. And then

767
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: apparently they're going to reduce the hitting a training camp

768
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: as well, which my point that was not a fan right.

769
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: My point that was, well, when are you gonna hit?

770
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: Because you're not hitting during the season, you have plenty

771
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: of time to hit, Johnny when you got plenty of

772
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: times if you're a training camp and you're practicing once

773
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: a day. One rules colleges are different. It's funny, you know,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Perry's brother James, is the head coach at Brown, right,

775
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: and the IVY League has sort of been at the

776
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: forefront of this non contact thing. So we were at

777
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: a dinner with James, his brother, who's the head coach

778
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: now at Brown, and we were asking about hitting in

779
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: practice and he said, no, he said, we don't even

780
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: don't do it ever, don't do it. Wait what He's like,

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00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: we don't hit ever? Ever? Why they wait till game

782
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: data hit They wait till game day to hit. He's

783
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: and and I looked at him and I was like,

784
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I was like, coach, so how do you And he said, Look,

785
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: it's the it's the rule, it's the way that we

786
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: go about it. It's what we have even in camp.

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00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: And what I loved about what he said was, yeah,

788
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: he said this I will never use as an excuse.

789
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: This will never mean any everybody's in the same boat.

790
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: Everybody's in the same boat. But they do not. But

791
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: if you are a more physical team, if physicality, for

792
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, is your thing or would

793
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: be your thing, I think it's tougher. I think it's tougher.

794
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a high, high powered, high flying

795
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: offense and you're wonderfully financed at throwing the football, you're

796
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna have a big advantage in this situation. Look, remember

797
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl the thud the wrap up, we were

798
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: talking about this. This is where I'm not saying the

799
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: league is going to thud, but it's going more toward

800
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: thud than the other way. Dick but gets with the

801
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: bloody uniform. It's not going to direction anyway. The historic moment,

802
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: you might have to get to it tomorrow. I think

803
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: you and Drew might have talked about it. But the

804
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: fact that you'll have all three head coaches of this

805
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: franchise in the building at once, it's kind of a

806
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: it's neat Tom Capers, Gary Kubiak for the Vikings, Kubiak

807
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, Bill O'Brien for the Texans, and they've

808
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: all faced each other. There's been a big round robin

809
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: we've been given to some of the matchups. But I

810
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: think that's notable. I think it's pretty cool to have

811
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: them all in the same building. I wonder if they'll

812
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: get a picture before the game, you know what, I'm

813
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: gonna ask Johnny and we'll see if they do. It

814
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: could be pretty cool, to be honest, it'd be pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, tomorrow, we'll have more of this stuff. I'm

816
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: sure there are gonna be developments every step of the way,

817
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: So thanks for listening tonight, don't forget Texans three sixty

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Speaker 1: ABC thirteen Saturday Night at what time eleven pm, and

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