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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so

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Speaker 2: many players say, well I want to be happy. You

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Speaker 1: Ato State?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Whoa?

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Speaker 1: Whoa?

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Speaker 2: And down and tie Dan Rubinstein On Thursday. If you recall,

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Speaker 2: we dubbed college football Week four as sock them in

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Speaker 2: the mouth Saturday. And the reason for that was we

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Speaker 2: was you, We was We were all expecting that some

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Speaker 2: of test, get punched in the mouth in a different

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Speaker 2: sort of way. We didn't really get upsets in Week four,

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Speaker 2: but we did sort of get that, did we not?

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Speaker 2: We did see some different tests. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: we were fully equipped and ready for. But now on

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Speaker 2: the flip side of it, as we speak to the

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Speaker 2: verbawler hood here at midnight Eastern time, live on the

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Speaker 2: at home, I think we got a little bit of

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Speaker 2: sock them in the mouse Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Did we not? I think so? I mean, how is

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Speaker 1: Utah going to respond when it's Will Hammond time? And

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Speaker 1: the answer is not great? The answer was Utah struggled

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Speaker 1: with Will Hammond. It was a good game until Big

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Speaker 1: succeeding downfield, So that kind of counts. Obviously, there's a

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Speaker 1: ton of games there are unexpected results, not huge upsets

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Speaker 1: so we consider that to be a moderate upset. I

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Speaker 1: guess is how we could phrase that. But no, I

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Speaker 1: think we got a little bit like I think Michigan

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Speaker 1: State went up early on USC and then USC just

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Speaker 1: bounced back. That game is happening as we speak, because

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Speaker 1: streaming this live and recording this. But no, I think

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Speaker 1: in various capacities like Florida's defense once again came to play.

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Speaker 1: Sure we can question Florida's ability to get up and

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Speaker 1: to win football games against quality teams, that's not the problem.

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Speaker 1: So there is something sock a me that a word

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Speaker 1: Florida's defense that you know that was a game against

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Speaker 1: Miami because of the defense. So yeah, we can look

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Speaker 1: across this great land in this great sport and say like,

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Speaker 1: how did a specific element or beginning or first half

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, look on today's episode, we're going to go through

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Speaker 2: the usual stuff like reverbs. I cut the reverbs earlier,

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Speaker 2: got a great batch here. We're going to go through

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Speaker 2: your doodl alerts as well. But tonight we're going to

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Speaker 2: half of the show. We're going to take some live questions.

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Speaker 2: We figure the people who are up lift and fully

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Speaker 2: plugged into college football and still unable to unwind enough

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Speaker 2: is for you. Get those questions in now. We'll pick

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Speaker 1: Do we have somebody collecting curating or I'm on the

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Speaker 1: fly you're curating?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try to do. I got like gate screens

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Speaker 2: deal with you and the games and people yelling at

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Speaker 2: me because I predicted Illinois, or because I predicted a

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Speaker 2: potential loss for BYU, all these things. Yes, I was wrong. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's the way this works. But we are happy to

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Speaker 2: moving forward, Dan, let me start here, please, And I

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Speaker 2: asked the same of the people who are watching live

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Speaker 2: want to hear from everybody, Dan Rubinstein, on which game,

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Speaker 1: North Texas scored three points against Army last year, right,

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Speaker 2: Or leading this off with the mean green of North Texas?

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Speaker 1: Ty, I'm keeping you on your toes, brother, Okay, there's

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Speaker 1: Okay. So my general thought going into the season about

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Speaker 2: Going away to your point, there were two elements of

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Speaker 2: think it's wrong to draw a loose comparison to Will Howard.

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Speaker 2: So Will Hammond stepping in, as you said on the road,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's something to play with with the word

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Speaker 2: Made an absolute ton of plays, especially upfront. But I

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Speaker 1: But they have, they've had good defensive players, they've had

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Speaker 2: Never really looked to Texas Tech as this team that's

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Speaker 2: ten was your final score in that one.

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Speaker 1: I came away with the fourth quarter of Texas Tech offense.

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Speaker 1: The Baron Morton version, and I hope he heals up

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Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that absolutely. Why don't we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough schedule, Dan, it is, but everybody

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Speaker 2: I could not agree more. And then, of course, the

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Speaker 2: This was a better sam Levit game. It was a

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Speaker 1: Which just means Baylor's offense has to be that. You know,

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Speaker 2: Much, such a slim margin, and Sawyer Robertson was fine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Colorado's playing right now. Iowa State, I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've eliminated Kansas State from the contending tier right now.

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Speaker 2: Holy crap, what happened? Sixty three to ten?

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Speaker 2: Good? Hell?

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Speaker 1: So I tried, like I told you offline, I said,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have that, but I think Illinois is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is what I like about Kurt Signetti. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Who cares, that's old news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kurtzignetti knew that he had to go out there

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Speaker 2: They could be better this year. For all we know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is absolutely true. But I think there is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I think I woke up the Illinois

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, implied that their wins last year

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Speaker 1: The South Carolina Bowl when ha ha, you elite guys,

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Speaker 2: They got annihilated, they got I like Illinois Like, I

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Speaker 1: They have asked c next week. By the way, they

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Speaker 2: But this this was if we're talking of week four

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Speaker 2: sixty three points was was getting close to that second

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Speaker 1: Yeah, between the block punts and the big plays both

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Speaker 2: Let's stay in the Big ten while we're here, and

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Speaker 2: out to you the most in Michigan's thirty to twenty

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Speaker 1: A lot of slop on both sides. What stood out

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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't compare our notes before we do this.

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Speaker 1: I just felt like fine.

438
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Speaker 2: I just felt like watching this game that Michigan was

439
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: far and away the better team. And maybe it was

440
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: because they had more of a sense of self. They

441
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: had that yeah, they had that vision for what they

442
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: wanted to be. The truth is that Michigan had early opportunities,

443
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: but their receivers let them down through the air. You know.

444
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: They had one drop pass or the beauty throw from

445
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood to I think it was Channing Goodwin in

446
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: the corner of the end zone, which is there, and

447
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: he just he couldn't bring it in. And there was

448
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: another one where it was wide receiver pass where they

449
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: had a guy wide.

450
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: Open, correct and he was under throw.

451
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: And he shorted it.

452
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

453
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: So like you can see the potential as a thrower

454
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: from Bryce Underwood, but he's not a finished product by

455
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: any means. I think he threw for like one oh five,

456
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: had a fumble, right.

457
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had. They had like a misque eor. Two

458
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: guys were going deep in the same exact area down

459
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: the sideline and it was It's very much a work

460
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: in progress.

461
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: It's a work in progress. He's very green. You can

462
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: clearly see the tools. He's going to be good. We

463
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: can acknowledge that much. I don't think this is a

464
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: great offense at Michigan, but I think they've got the

465
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: personnel to be good at doing what they did today.

466
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: If they can play this style football, against you, there's

467
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: a pretty good chance that they're gonna win or they're

468
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: going to be within the number. Right, the game plan

469
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: here was to try and bully Nebraska, which is what

470
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: they did. On both sides of the ball. They were

471
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: able to get some really big runs. Justice Haynes another

472
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: like huge game. Michigan ended up running for almost three

473
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: hundred yards. They averaged close to nine per carry, but.

474
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: They weren't getting touched on some of those lots.

475
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: No, and this goes back to one of the things

476
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: we talked about on the preview where we talked about

477
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: Nebraska yards allowed before contact.

478
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: Right.

479
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: I was quick to bring that up with about other teams,

480
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: and it didn't really apply in the way that Indiana.

481
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: Right, you're Indiana, You're like, okay, hear me out, Indiana

482
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: is gonna struggle in a very specific note, we're not.

483
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: We're not, We're not going there. But in this one,

484
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: you were right to bring it up because it did

485
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 2: come back to bite Nebraska. Matt Rule even brought it

486
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: up when he talked to our friend Jenny Dell that

487
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: they couldn't stop the chunk plays on the ground. It

488
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: was killing him. And then on the flip side, One

489
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: of the things that I think we could really hang

490
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 2: our hat on with respect to Michigan coming into the

491
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: season was we knew they were going to be good upfront,

492
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: or at least in the front seven. Right, like lost

493
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: a lot, but still enough back that we felt like

494
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: they would be pretty formidable. They owned Nebraska's front, yeah,

495
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: seven sacks. They held Nebraska to two of thirteen on

496
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: third downs. It's really tough to mount the charge against

497
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: a team that can bully you like that. It just

498
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: is despiriting, to say the least. So I give Michigan

499
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: a lot of credit for the way they went in

500
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: there and won. This was a game that I thought

501
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: there was a ton of pressure on Nebraska, and I

502
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: don't know. If I don't know, I need to go

503
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: back and rewatch this one, I think to fully develop

504
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: my feelings. Maybe we can talk about that on Tuesday,

505
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: But for now, I come a way feeling the same

506
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: as you like. This wasn't as close as the final

507
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: score indicates. Nebraska did get one on a hail Mary,

508
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: and it felt to me for the overwhelming majority of

509
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: this game like Michigan was the dominant side.

510
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: Michigan also almost gave it away with a dumb taunting penalty,

511
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: a sideline taunting penalty. Yeah, and also like if you

512
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: just look forward, Michigan has like one and a half

513
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: all the defenses left on their schedule. Like you got

514
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: to give a lot of people the benefit of the

515
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: doubt that it's more than one and a half. And

516
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: that's Ohio State and USC in my eyes right now,

517
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: and so they might be able to get away with

518
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: this for a while, which is kind of crazy.

519
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: Oklahoma twenty four Auburn seventeen Dan This was sort of

520
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: the headliner of the week. There were a couple headliners.

521
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: I guess it depends who you're into and where you live.

522
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 2: But for all intents and purposes, I thought Oklahoma Auburn

523
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: was the one that had the most star power. And

524
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: this game had a little bit of everything too. You

525
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: had some curious calls, you had some big plays, you

526
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: had a safety at the end, like you name it.

527
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: This game had a little bit of everything. There was

528
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 2: a play very early on and this is the moment

529
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: when I said to my wife, who did not care

530
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: about this game whatsoever, but I just had it. I

531
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: had to speak it. I said, this is how I

532
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: know that oklahol Is winning this game because there was

533
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: a replay review that overturned an Auburn scoop and score

534
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: big break for Oklahoma. There was also a touchdown pass

535
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: to Isaiah Setana that may have been illegal per ESPN rules.

536
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Analyst Matt Austin. One of those deals where the receiver

537
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: looks like he's running out of bounds getting subbed off

538
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: stops before he gets there, everybody forgets about him. Before

539
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: you know what, he's running free for a touchdown. That

540
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: was the twenty four yard pass that ended up making

541
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: it ten to three in the early part of this

542
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: game from Johnny.

543
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: To be fair to that analysis, everything may or may

544
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: not be something when Matt Austin weighs in during.

545
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 2: Matt Matt Austin, Yeah, always defense sitter, but alas look,

546
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: it worked out for Oklahoma. They end up winning a

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: big one for them to get to four and oh.

548
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: They'll be five and oh after next week. Going into

549
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: the rivalry with Texas in week six, I think the

550
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: defense looks incredible. They were in the backfield all night.

551
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: They set a school record with ten sacks in this kiss.

552
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: They had seven sacks in the first half.

553
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: The end of the game out of safety right with

554
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: a sack that was the tenth one Yeah safety say

555
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

556
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: So like I'm not sure about the offense. I think

557
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: there's probably an offense question outside of job Matier. Like

558
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: they didn't run all they still can't run. But Mattier

559
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: is great. Provided they're able to keep putting him in

560
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: a situation to do what he does, they're going to

561
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: be fine. But right now, this is for as much

562
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: I think of the headlines will be dominated by John Matier,

563
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: this is still right now to me, a team that's

564
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: dominated about a really good defense.

565
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: And as much as we think it's a good defense,

566
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: because Auburn might just have a garbage offensive line tendency,

567
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a horrible offensive line. I think

568
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a two things true. At the

569
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: same time, where Jack Snarld was holding onto the ball

570
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: way too long at time, we're just like, make a decision, dude,

571
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: throw it away, scramble, do something. Because he when he

572
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: did have opportunities to just pull the trigger quickly, right

573
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: he hit Cam Coleman down the sideline out of his

574
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: own end zone. They're like, okay, he saw one on one,

575
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: he hit one on one and it was just there

576
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: was that there was an extra second, an extra second

577
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: and a half, an extra two seconds. We were just like,

578
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: do something.

579
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Listen and let me pause you right there.

580
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say, are Mason Thomas coming

581
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: into the second halms? Did do something? Did do something?

582
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: What I was gonna say about Jackson Arnold. I had

583
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: been rooting for Jackson Arnold since he first came to

584
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: college for whatever reason. And everybody who listens to this

585
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: is probably the same way I know you are.

586
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: It kind of looks like you with a mustache. I

587
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: get it.

588
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: Continue you find a recruit that, for one reason or another,

589
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: you're just really interested in seeing how they progress the

590
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: next level. And for me, that quarterback was Jackson Arnold.

591
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: And so when he came up and when he got

592
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: a couple early reps with Oklahoma and we had Oklahoma

593
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: people riding in and telling us, seems like he sees

594
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: the game, he processes it quickly, he can make the throws.

595
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: He's still green, but it seems like he might be

596
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: the guy. Yeah, last year it didn't work out. He

597
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: didn't end up being the guy. Ma Tea is much

598
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: more the guy. But now Jackson Arnold gets his fresh

599
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: start at Auburn. As he said at the at the

600
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: kind of start of the season, Auburn isn't typically where

601
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: you go to seek out stability, but correct we hope

602
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: it works for him. I remain unimpressed by Jackson Arnold,

603
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: and it hurts me to say that, but he looks

604
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 2: slow to process. He had throws that were there that

605
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: he either didn't see or was inaccurate trying to deliver

606
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, it just hurts my heart because I

607
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: really wanted this to work. He's still a very gifted runner.

608
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: Auburn is still probably going to be a pretty good team.

609
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: And this isn't to say that the whole Jackson Ronald

610
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: experiment is going to be a disaster. Yet it's still

611
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: pretty early and he did, I think, go up against

612
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: a pretty good defense here. But we are seeing some

613
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: of what we saw a year ago. And that's just

614
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: troubling to me because I'm still rooting for the kid.

615
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: Right here is just a pasa for parents out there.

616
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: If at some point Ty's like I watch this tape

617
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: of this prospect he plays quarterback and I don't know,

618
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: I just think he has it.

619
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: We can go to the Iowa stuff later. Don't bring

620
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: up market advance.

621
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: Well, we can talk about my leagu's I hear, we

622
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: can talk about Mark Ronowski, we can talk about Jackson Arnold.

623
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: Don't talk about whoever you want. It's just one of

624
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: those fork in the road moments that you're gonna have

625
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: to make peace with because your son has just been

626
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: cursed by the Lehigh Valley cursor.

627
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the occult forces of the tie cursor.

628
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Out and out. Just say the leads, like you know

629
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: when when people just have that eye for like the

630
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: most toxic possible relationship. Tye has the eye for the

631
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: most toxic possible five star wars.

632
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's incredible, and it is now seeped out

633
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: into my weekly picks because my weekly picks have been

634
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: trash to the point now where if anybody wants to

635
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: sponsor me to pick the team opposing your team.

636
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: That'd be fun.

637
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: Solidverbo at gmail dot com. We could probably work something out.

638
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Financial terms need to remain confidential, but.

639
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: So instead of the Lock of the week, it would

640
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: be like the key of the week, Like I open

641
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: up a win for your team.

642
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: We got to call it a lock. We gotta do all.

643
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: We got to do the show like it's a real thing.

644
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: But I agree, I'm willing to be bought off. Let's

645
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: be real. We're all trying to make a living here.

646
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma twenty four Auburn seventeen Oklahoma. Interestingly enough, nice little

647
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: front door cover. I won't play the sound. I don't

648
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: want to annoy the dogs out there with the doorbell,

649
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: but little front door cover on that safety. They were

650
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: favored by seven. I think it closed at seven. They

651
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: were up by five. Auburn had that one last down

652
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold taken down to the end zone for his

653
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: safety to get to seven to get the push.

654
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Sorry about that.

655
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: Miami twenty six Florida seven, Dan m h What do

656
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: you think of this one?

657
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I think about this one. I think

658
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: Miami's a really good team. I think Miami has really

659
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: good players. I really liked I think because Game Day

660
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: was there right in the morningtime show and Pat McAfee

661
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: got an espiedo and jumped off of like a ten

662
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: meter high dive platform. Something right. I only watched a

663
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: few minutes, but they did something on Corey Hatherman and

664
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: it was like violent, like swarming. Violence is his like

665
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: mo and I love that because it's also the initials

666
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: of this show. He's like a big sv guy. Yeah,

667
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: And there was something very fun about watching Miami tonight.

668
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: Even though they weren't pouring on the points with the

669
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: majority of this game, they're still playing with that energy

670
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: in an in state rivalry type spot on both sides

671
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: of the ball. And even though it was a slopping

672
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: night at times for this offense, I just the defense

673
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: is super fun to watch. And again I talk about

674
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: sympathy for Nebraska fans sympathy for Florida fans in that

675
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: you watch the Florida offense and it's very clear that

676
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: they have good players on this offense. But it's also

677
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: very clear they're like, Okay, what's your plan here for

678
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: Vernell Brown or Jaden Ball? What's your plan here for

679
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: DJ Lagway? Like the line isn't there, what's the plan?

680
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: The deep threat isn't consistently there? Okay, what's the plan?

681
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: And like the word back from Gainesville is just like

682
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine, And I just

683
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: I feel bad because DJ Lagway seems to have all

684
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: the talent in the world. But with as many bad

685
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: decisions as he made last week, the worst decision seems

686
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: to be that he committed to Florida. Like he could

687
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: have gone somewhere and be developed and have an offensive

688
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: coordinator in a system and turned into what he potentially

689
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: could be. Florida's not that place, and it doesn't seem

690
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: like it's going to be that place for a little while.

691
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: One of the interesting, I guess sides of the whole

692
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: Florida thing right now is I think back to last

693
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: year when they put DJ Lagway in as a true freshman.

694
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: Of course billiy Napier was on the hot seat. Then

695
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: this isn't a new thing. He's been on the hot

696
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: seat for a while. But you put in a true

697
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: freshman quarterback, you tend to buy yourself a little bit

698
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: of grace. You know, you can experience some of those

699
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: growing pains, and I think people will give you They'll

700
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: give you a bigger safety net, let's say.

701
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Sure, especially if you can't afford the buyout.

702
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: Especially if you can't afford the buyout. And that's the

703
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: other side of it here, if you want to be

704
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: super cynical about it. But it's something that Florida was

705
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: a conscious choice that Florida made instead of buying him out.

706
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: They're going to reinvest in the program. They're going to

707
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: put better players around Lagway, which I think was a

708
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: good idea. Sure, Billion Napier's out of excuses at this point, though,

709
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: and one of the reasons why he's out of excuses

710
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: is not just because he has the players, but because

711
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: he remains insistent on calling these offensive plays. And this

712
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: has been, like I think, a real source of contention

713
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: among the Florida people that write in to us week

714
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: in and week out, but especially in a game like

715
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 2: this that like they were there, they were kind of there.

716
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: This was thirteen to seven, and they had a lot

717
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: of momentum in the third quarter of this football game,

718
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: and it subsequently vanished. The deeper we got into this thing,

719
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: Miami started to assert its will a little bit more.

720
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: But like I just I'm thinking throughout the course of

721
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: this game, watching, as you said, an offense that doesn't

722
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: seem to have much of a philosophy or a plan

723
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: or just just a vision. I don't know, and I'm

724
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, could Billy Napier have purchased a little

725
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: bit more grace for himself by assigning the play calling

726
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: to somebody else or getting a different offensive coordinator or

727
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: a different setup. It's not all on him to do this,

728
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: and then they can blame somebody else if it doesn't

729
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: work for whatever reason. They're still sort of doing the

730
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: same thing, banging their head against the wall, driving Florida

731
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: people insane, knowing as you said that there's a lot

732
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: of talent on this offense, but not really knowing what

733
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: to do with it. It's truly like a where do

734
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: I put my hands moment? Yeah, with this Florida offense,

735
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: and it's a bummer. It's a bummer because this one

736
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: was there. They went zero for twelve on third downs.

737
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Their defense played lights out, I thought, for the majority

738
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: of this game.

739
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: But they can't. They played lights out all year. They

740
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: played lights out against US, against USF you name it. Yeah,

741
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: you know.

742
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: And the other thing is I would add this, we

743
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: did see a little bit of Mario mode at the

744
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: end of this one, didn't we.

745
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Miami did tighten up a bit, they pulled away, they

746
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: did score, but it was very conservative and tight light.

747
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw we saw a little bit of him

748
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: going into that mode. I got the sound on the

749
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: board at the ready firm now until forever.

750
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: If Miami's defense continues to look as legit as it

751
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: appears to be, it's kind of a one game season.

752
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 1: It's in two weeks against Florida State, Farta State. Yeah,

753
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: because there's no team on this schedule that has that

754
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: seems to have the talent and the speed and the

755
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: aggression on both sides of the ball. It doesn't mean

756
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna go twelve and oh eleven and one, but

757
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: I'd much rather be a Miami guy than a Field

758
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: guy right now.

759
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Well, they're lucky too because they don't have to play Clemson,

760
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, Clemson being my preseason number one national championship contender,

761
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: not on not on the schedule either, So that really

762
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: works to their favor.

763
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: You really know how to pick them, you really know

764
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: how to do it.

765
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: I'm fearful for what this means for Penn State since

766
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: they were my national championship pick. But alas, okay, Clemson

767
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: lost to Syracuse Dan.

768
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: They did, and they didn't just lose. It took us

769
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: like a six hour stretch of time.

770
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: This is kind to have been the longest game in history,

771
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: or at least feel that way. If you were a

772
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: Clemson fan. Because there was a lengthy weather delay, it

773
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: just sort of delayed the inevitable. I guess, I don't know.

774
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: They got picked apart by Steve Angeli before he got hurt,

775
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 2: So Angelly and Syracuse were moving the ball way better

776
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: than you would expect against what I thought would be

777
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: a better defense. And he goes down in the third

778
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: quarter with a non contact injury on his left leg,

779
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: had to be helped off. Ricky Collins comes in the

780
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: rest of the way, wasn't great, but did throw a

781
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: touch up pass, a huge touchdown pass that extended the

782
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: lead to twenty thirty four to fourteen, which was kind

783
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: of a dagger in the second half of this one.

784
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 2: But obviously, like the Syracuse thing, is exciting. I'm glad

785
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: Syracuse got to win. The schedule is harder this year.

786
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: It was always a question of are they going to

787
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: find a way to get back to six wins. I

788
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: think they're going to get the six wins. The bigger

789
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: question that was Clemson, Man, are they still a question? Well,

790
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: no one question. The questions different now. The question before

791
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: was well, are they just playing good teams? Are they

792
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 2: going to find a way to get this together. What's

793
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: taking so long for them to get this together? That

794
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: was a question before They're one and three. Now, man,

795
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: this is the worst start in Dabo Sweeney's career at Clemson.

796
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: And this is after he went to the podium earlier

797
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: in the week and went on that crazy rant. So

798
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: the question now is not how is Clemson going to

799
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: get back to where many of us thought they would go?

800
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: The question I think is more existential now. Honestly, I'm

801
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: not going to advocate for getting rid of Dabo Sweeney.

802
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's even a possibility. But honestly,

803
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: what is this team now? That's the question for me.

804
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know.

805
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Can a full program have the yips. I've talked about

806
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: specific players because I still think we're fairly certain there

807
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: are many good players on this team.

808
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: They should be better than this. That is what I

809
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: come out of every Clemson game feeling they should be

810
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: better than this. We know the talent that brought everybody back, right,

811
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: they made the roster even better. They should be better

812
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: than this. Why aren't they?

813
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't think their passing game is that good. I

814
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: don't think they can stop the run. I don't think

815
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of confidence on either side of

816
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: the ball. And to me, truly, the story here is Syracuse. Oh,

817
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: because as much as it's like what's going on with Clemson,

818
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: like we've said this, this is like a full month

819
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: of it, so at a certain point you just sort

820
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: of are what you are Like Clemson. People are now

821
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: in the mode of like, are we twenty twenty four

822
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: Florida State? Is that what's happening right now? Can you

823
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: tell me if that's what's happening so I can mentally

824
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: and emotionally and spiritually prepare myself for a two and

825
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: ten season as everything collapses around me. Just let me know,

826
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: just please let me in on the secret here. Syracuse

827
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: does not and does not ever appear to be the

828
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: type of program that's like, well, we're big underdogs here,

829
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: we might as well like pack it in and play

830
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: slow and really limit possessions like friendmals, like let's go

831
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: straight at him, that's his entire mo is. Let's run

832
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: straight at them, let's throw down the field, let's make

833
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: them stop us, because we believe we are good enough

834
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: to inflict a lot of damage on this team, and

835
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: that's what they did from the start with Steve Ageli,

836
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: with John Tey Cook, with the running game like they were.

837
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: They played fearlessly because if you watch Clemson this year,

838
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: what is there to fear? And so they didn't try

839
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: that tactic of an overmatch team or a quote unquote

840
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: overmatch team. They struggled with Yukon mightily. I think Yukon

841
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: just barely beat Ball State. I want to say this

842
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: is not going to be an incredible Syracuse team, but

843
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: they were not intimidated at all by going to Clemson

844
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: and playing the Tigers.

845
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: And that's coming from the head coach. Yeah you know,

846
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean you will get their hardest effort for sixty

847
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: minutes and they might lose by forty, but they might

848
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: also beat you. Yeah, the way they did Clemson in

849
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 2: Clemson after a lengthy weather delay, when you know, who

850
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: knows what happens, right, It's I think a real success

851
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: story for fran Brown.

852
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you.

853
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean I don't want to see him leave Syracuse

854
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's gonna if you believe any

855
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: of his past statements.

856
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: But.

857
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: Indicators are that this is going to be a much

858
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: more active coaching carousel this year. You at least got

859
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: to make him say no, at least got to consider him,

860
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: make him say no, because he's proven he can attract talent,

861
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: He's proven he can build a culture quickly. He's proven

862
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: he can go and beat a school like a Clemson. Again,

863
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to see him leave, but you wouldn't

864
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: blame any of the major programs for giving a call

865
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, Fran, how are you feeling updarre in Syracuse.

866
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: He's from the northeast, though, which is nice. I mean

867
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's going to stay in the Northeast, from

868
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: like the Philly area. I want to say so. Yeah,

869
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean he's an acquired taste. I happen to have

870
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: acquired it. Yeah, I'm a fan. But yeah, we'll see

871
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: how that sort of like fun brashness plays everywhere. If

872
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: he is going to look for something more prestigious in

873
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: the college football world. I'm having fun with him at Syracuse.

874
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: Memphis thirty two, Arkansas thirty one. Memphis was a seven

875
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: point home dog at kickoff. You were pretty interested in

876
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: this game.

877
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I called this from Memphis. I believe you called

878
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: it from Memphis.

879
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: I also bet Memphis because I believe in you, Dan,

880
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: Thank you. And one of the things that I think

881
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: we have seen in the early going, though not much

882
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: in this game, is that the Memphis defense was a

883
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: little bit better than we had seen in recent memory

884
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: and now after the beginning, yes, after the beginning. And

885
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: that's important because this is a team that was pretty

886
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: much all offense. It's been an infamous half team for

887
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: the last five years or so.

888
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: But to play a little bit more.

889
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Defense and not drop off too much on offense after

890
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: a guy like a Seth Hennikan graduates off the program,

891
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: that's significant. And it's especially significant in twenty twenty five

892
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: because whoever is making it from the G five ranks

893
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: into that playoff G six six.

894
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Excuse me sort of, I mean PAC twelve is sorry,

895
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: Yah'll continue.

896
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: But that team at this point feels like it's very

897
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: much in flux, and so Memphis has just sort of

898
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: been lurking, and this is a game that they obviously

899
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: could use to kind of catapult themselves into that conversation

900
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: a great and I think they did that. I need

901
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: to go back and watch this one closer, but from

902
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: what I could gather, Arkansas ran it pretty effectively early.

903
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: Then stopped doing it, and Memphis came back, then started

904
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: back up and ran to the point where they were

905
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: trying to go for a game winning field goal and

906
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: then they fumbled it. Basically for the second straight week,

907
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: fumbled away an opportunity to win the game, and then

908
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Memphis ran out the clock, and that was the story

909
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: of this one.

910
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also that the I mean you mentioned the G five,

911
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: G six, you know, hierarchy at the top. They had

912
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play an SEC team and add to

913
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: their resume, as did Tulane, and Tulane got absolutely picked

914
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: apart bones and all by Trinidad Chambliss and so all

915
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: of this and they're playing each other. Yeah, and I

916
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: think I think Memphis plays both Tulane and USF. So

917
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: that's kind of fascinating down the stretch to see how

918
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: this all unfolds. But yeah, you want that feather. You

919
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: absolutely want to need that feather. If Memphis is gonna

920
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: say consistent and in that resume conversation, looking at.

921
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: Their schedule, they've got a monster matchup with Tulane in

922
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: week eleven, So if all holds right now, and as

923
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: you said, Tulane didn't do much against Ole Miss but

924
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily eliminate any of these teams from contention.

925
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: That matchup with Memphis is going to be pretty big,

926
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: so we'll look forward to that. Thankfully you got a

927
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: couple of weeks before we get to that point, but

928
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: definitely one to keep on your radar. Generally speaking, though,

929
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: if we kind of turn our focus to what else

930
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: went down in the SEC, I think we covered most

931
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: of the action. I did plan on playing the crock

932
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: potting sound. Yeah, I wanted to play that for the

933
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: old miss win. You kind of beat me to the punch,

934
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: but thank you. Forty five to ten over tu Lane. Yeah.

935
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss, who played in plays of Austin Simmons, was incredible.

936
00:47:59,640 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: Yep.

937
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: The other big one that went down tonight was Missouri

938
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: twenty nine, South Carolina twenty Super fun. It's a really

939
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: fun game. We previewed this one on Thursday. My curiosity

940
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: was the game plan, like, what's that going to look like?

941
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: I was hoping we would see what we did end

942
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: up seeing tonight, which was find a way to get

943
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: Bouprabuele a little bit more on the move with his legs. Obviously,

944
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: lean on a guy like an mad Hardy, who's been

945
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: very very good since transferring over agree and you know,

946
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: find ways to find ways to make South Carolina relatively

947
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: one dimensional. You know, don't let him run it, force

948
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: Lenora's sellers to throw it. Just limit the ways that

949
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: he can kill you when they've got the football right.

950
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: They did an awesome job on all that stuff. And

951
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: to boot, they outrushed South Carolina by a two to

952
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: eighty five to negative nine margin.

953
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: Dan, that's a helpful, hellul place to be.

954
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. So Miszoo another one of these teams, right, you

955
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: talked about Michigan earlier. Michigan plays one and a half

956
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: real defenses at time of recording. Miszoo relative to their

957
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: peers in the SEC, has a pretty advantageous schedule. So

958
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: maybe just a team to keep your eye on. I

959
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: don't know what people think of South Carolina at this juncture,

960
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: but something to be aware of.

961
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean, South Carolina has an absolute star of a

962
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: quarterback who can make plays that nobody else in this

963
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: conference or probably America can make, just in terms of

964
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: buying time with no offensive line and delivering something beautiful

965
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: into the awaiting hands of somebody. Thirty eight yards downfield.

966
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: He's incredible. They have really good players. He is not

967
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: behind a line that can be depended on for anything

968
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: over the course of four quarters, and he cannot do

969
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: it himself. As much as we like to call him

970
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: the creator, he is the biggest part of a team

971
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: that is struggling to play consistent offense and get off

972
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: the field on defense. At times, I don't mind this defense.

973
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: I think the South Carolina defense can do enough to

974
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: win games. Bo Barbule is kind of interesting to me. Yeah, man,

975
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: He's not amazing, no, And I don't think if somebody

976
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: makes Miszoo one dimensional and forces a bunch of three

977
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: and three and eight third and eights and stuff like that,

978
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the greatest. But like, is there

979
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of John Mattier in Bo Brabula or

980
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: vice versa. There's something there. And I like Missoo's ability,

981
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: and I like their schedule moving forward, They're gonna win

982
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of games. I like them. Yeah, bou Bbuela

983
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: looked good.

984
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: He's looked really good since coming over for Penn State,

985
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna see a lot more of

986
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 2: the game plan that we saw today, where they try

987
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: to use him as a runner, but even as a passer,

988
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: he's been pretty good when he's had the opportunity to

989
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: do so. So I think, you know, MISSOO is a

990
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: team that people should just be aware of. We ask

991
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: you a very pointy question about a different conference, though,

992
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Please when you and I next record our next episode

993
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: of the podcast, okay, which I guess would be Monday afternoon. Yeah,

994
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: is Luke Fickle still going to be the coach at Wisconsin?

995
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: So he got like the dreaded vote of confidence right

996
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: there were chants in the stadium like fire Fickle chants

997
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: right after. They did not look competitive at all against Maryland,

998
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: which you gotta look competitive against Maryland. The defense has

999
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: looked good this year for the Terps. Malik Washington's an

1000
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: interesting talent. You gotta look competitive at this point Luke

1001
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: Fickle's career at Wisconsin, they were not. I'm gonna say yes,

1002
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: but it's hard to see him wearing a Wisconsin pull

1003
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: over next season.

1004
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: So crazy to me that this hasn't worked. Yeah, I mean,

1005
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: he's a good coach. He's been a good coach for

1006
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: a long time, and not every good coach is able

1007
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: to transform every situation he steps into.

1008
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Right, I am.

1009
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: Confounded by the fact that this hasn't worked. And I

1010
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: think what's probably most frustrating if you're a Wisconsin fan,

1011
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: each season has kind of felt the same. They've had

1012
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: issues with quarterback luck and injuries right since he got there,

1013
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: and they're actively trying to make the offense better, but

1014
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's any better. It kind of

1015
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: feels like most of the Wisconsin teams that we've seen

1016
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: over the last few seasons, and that's just damn frustrating.

1017
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how else to put it. So I

1018
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: don't know how he even if he makes it through.

1019
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: You know, this wave of frustration that I'm sure is

1020
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 2: going to wash over Madison in light of a twenty

1021
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: seven to ten loss to Maryland. Right, I don't like,

1022
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: there's no way this can be a longer term thing

1023
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: at this point.

1024
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the worst possible explanation is that he is

1025
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good coach and Wisconsin is not a place

1026
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: built for these times that when they were in the

1027
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Big Ten West and the way that they approached nil

1028
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: as a school, and the way the Big Ten is

1029
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: currently built in terms of the teams at the top

1030
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: and how they're spending that Wisconsin is the expectations of

1031
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: Wisconsin as a program aren't necessarily realistic if they're in

1032
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: line with where they were ten years ago.

1033
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame fifty six perdue thirty. I'm not going to

1034
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: spend a whole lot of time talking about this.

1035
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: It was closed for like fourteen minutes.

1036
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: There was another weather delay in this. Are all these

1037
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: weather delays all of a sudden driving us all crazy?

1038
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: Fifty six to thirty was your final. Notre Dame ran

1039
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: for two fifty and five touchdowns on the ground. It

1040
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: was never really in doubt. But yes, there was a

1041
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 2: moment first half where it's like, hmm, this is closer

1042
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: than we expected. There were many text messages I can

1043
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: tell you going back and forth with Mama H and

1044
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: I about Notre Dame's defense. And I can tell you

1045
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: right now, if they don't find a way to fix

1046
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: this defense quick, and that probably involves getting rid of

1047
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: Chris Ash or reassigning him to some sort of administrative function, well,

1048
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: Luke Fickle might be available, Brent Price is available. Like,

1049
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: if they don't come up with some way, some better

1050
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: way to use Chris Ash at this stage of the game.

1051
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: This could well be a four loss team.

1052
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: You mean like in catering or something. What do you mean?

1053
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: Whatever?

1054
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: To use him?

1055
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever, Just don't let him call the defense because

1056
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: based on what we're seeing, even though they yes got

1057
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: better in the second half, this version of Notre Dame

1058
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: with him calling that defense and whatever they're trying to do,

1059
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: it's four lost team. They're going to lose two more

1060
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: games if they keep playing the style of defense.

1061
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so.

1062
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: Put that down right, it in stone, whatever, hold me

1063
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: to it. But I'm telling you right now, they got

1064
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: to fix that, and they got to do it quick.

1065
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me if he is not the defensive

1066
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: coordinator the next time we record.

1067
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Real like in two days. Yeah, it would step in.

1068
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: Just run ass Becus Freeman could step in, Mike Mickens

1069
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: could step in. They can come up with some other

1070
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: way to run that defense and scheme that defense. It's

1071
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: not to say that he can't have a hand in it.

1072
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: But whatever they're doing right now, we're like a month

1073
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: into this thing.

1074
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: Man, what if Ryan Brown is just a fun wild

1075
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: card tie and he's gonna be that way all season long.

1076
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's been bad. It's been bad. They

1077
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: got I guess a little bit more pressure in this game,

1078
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: but there's still miscommunication issues. They're still i think soft upfront,

1079
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: softer than we've seen the last couple of years.

1080
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot there.

1081
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this is an offense at scoring points, and

1082
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: so to waste that offense because the defense can't get

1083
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: it sacked together. There's still a lot to play for

1084
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: if you're Notre Dame. But they got to get it

1085
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: together quick and fair again. If they don't make a

1086
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: pretty serious change here quickly, it's four lost team.

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00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: But listen, he is the defensive coordinator for a team

1088
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: on a current winning streak. There's that.

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00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of coaching strife, Oklahoma State lost at home to

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: Tulsa on Friday night, nineteen to twelve. Yeah, the first

1091
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: time that Tulsa has won in still Water since nineteen

1092
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: fifty one. Not great, Dan rubinste this might be it

1093
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: for Gundy, right, Oh it is. I think it's got

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00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Yeah, the question is is he there

1095
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: on Monday?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's earned, you know, the benefit of

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: like going out on a very respectful turn. I just

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: he'll be fine in terms of how this all ends.

1099
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're not gonna get rid of a midseason,

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: there's no point.

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00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: And then last but not least. Of course, there are

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00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: games that we are not going through. Many of them

1103
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: were outs. But uh, the ACC is kind of interesting, man,

1104
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: got some interesting stuff going on the ACC. That Duke

1105
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: n C State game was a ton of fun, lot

1106
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: of offense. NCC couldn't overcome four turnovers, but a good

1107
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: game from CJ. Bailey.

1108
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: Not a good game for CJ. Bailey. He threw three interceptions.

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00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: He threw three interceptions, but also through for three hundred

1110
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: and sixty four yards. So I'm trying to fill out

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00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: a positive Dan I don't.

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00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't think if somebody stopped him on the street

1113
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: tonight and said do you have a good game, be like, yeah,

1114
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that. Okay, fair enough, fair enough, continue

1115
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: through for a lot of yards.

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Let's leave it there. Sure h forty five to thirty four, though,

1117
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: Duke with a nice win, nice little second half rally.

1118
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech got off the schneide, finally got to win

1119
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: over Wafford.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: There was this game though, between UCF and North Carolina.

1122
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch it yet. But it seemed entertaining

1123
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: from this game.

1124
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: Was an absolute mess for North Carolina.

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it was so bad.

1126
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: Two hundred and seventeen yards that's all they got against

1127
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: this team. I don't know, man, that's a problem. That's

1128
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: a real problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the problem bigger picture is that North Carolina

1130
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: is using this year to broadcast what they can be

1131
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: in terms of an attractive program to recruits and potential

1132
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: portal editions, and it's not a great broadcast in this moment,

1133
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: especially when like now you're gonna start having like the

1134
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: social media teams dunk on North Carolina if they're beating them,

1135
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: like UCF's did. They had like the what the Knight

1136
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: holding up a w with the Knight's legs mimicking the

1137
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson Bill Belichick picture on the beach. You're just

1138
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of fodder where like if you're

1139
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna ask like is this guy even there? At this point,

1140
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: You're like, this doesn't seem like it's a fun experience

1141
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick in this moment. Okay, I don't know.

1142
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: We'll say there's time.

1143
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: There is time before we move on to our next segment,

1144
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: which will be the reverbs.

1145
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't want to talk Platypus Cup. I was

1146
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: Apple Cup.

1147
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the Platypus Cup

1148
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: and the Apple Cup because these are two name brand

1149
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: right win the platty name brand rivalries. Oregon wins forty

1150
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: one to seven. Washington had a little bit of trouble

1151
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: with Wazoo, but then pulled away late.

1152
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: The Oregan start was pretty sluggish too.

1153
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: What what are we feeling on the Oregon side now

1154
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: going into this big one against Penn State next week?

1155
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: Did you see anything at all in this game that

1156
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: you think is going to be relevant? On Tuesday when we.

1157
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: Recorded the run defense for like a quarter and a half,

1158
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: wasn't great for Oregon. It seemed like sort of a lethargic,

1159
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: sluggish forty one to seven win at times. But then

1160
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: they opened it up and uh, We're able to get

1161
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: stops on the ground. They completely limited Malik Murphy through

1162
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: the air. He was at some point it was like

1163
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: three of fifteen or something. I think Oregon State basically

1164
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: had one drive Oregon may have has. Oregon allowed like

1165
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: their starting defense I think has allowed a touchdown this season,

1166
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: So I'm not terribly worried that there's anything super concerning

1167
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: about this Oregon team. They're just gonna play what could

1168
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: be a very very good Penn State team and that's worrisome.

1169
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: But no, I think outside of maybe the run defense,

1170
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: Oregon seems to be in a good spot. You know,

1171
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: Decoryan Moore was there and playing well. There was some

1172
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: question about his health. Dante More looked for the most

1173
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: part pretty excellent, and defense is making place. It's a

1174
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: good game for Oregon in kind of a sad situation

1175
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: where Oregon State is is a program right now. And

1176
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned Washington Washington State and the Apple Cup being

1177
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: close for.

1178
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: A stretch, Yeah, three quarters, so it was close.

1179
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: Washington is just there's a lot of quality speed to

1180
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Washington like that a relief pitcher from nineteen eighty one

1181
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: would be interested in. Are those Greenies are? Yeah, there's

1182
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: like I just they're a fun offensive team, which a

1183
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: team coached by Jedfish generally seems to be. I think

1184
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be really good and they have Do they

1185
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: have Ohio State next week? Is that what's happening? Are

1186
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: they coming up with Ohio? Ohio State comes town next week.

1187
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun and weird, hopefully for my entertainment eyes.

1188
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, Washington took care of business. A lot of

1189
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: it was just like generating those chunk plays on the ground,

1190
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: and it was with zeb eck House is the Wazoo quarterback.

1191
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: He's making plays for a stretch of that game. He

1192
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: has to do arety admirable for them? He has to

1193
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: do everything.

1194
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has to do everything. But he scored three touchdowns,

1195
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: two through the air, one on the ground, also turned

1196
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: it over three times, had two picks in a fumble.

1197
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: Demon Williams is my dude.

1198
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: He's good. He's not huge, No, no, he runs. He

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: puts his body on the line, which is admirable. He's

1200
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: not a big guy.

1201
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: He is not a big guy. All right, right in

1202
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: salverbogmail dot com. Let us know what we got right,

1203
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: what we got wrong. Of course, if you are listening,

1204
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: if you are watching, if you can comment, please do so.

1205
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: Let us know your thoughts on all the action. Of course,

1206
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: there are many other games that we could get into.

1207
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: I will not talk about my possible upset alert of

1208
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: the BYU Cougars because they annihilated East Carolina. Yes, yes,

1209
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: and that was another one that I was wrong about again.

1210
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 2: More to the point, if you want me to bet

1211
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: on your opponent, just let me know again that email

1212
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: address is Severble at gmail dot com.

1213
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: That email address, of course, is Fadraham Lincoln at gmail

1214
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: dot com.

1215
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we did get a bunch of your

1216
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: voice messages at eight five five verbal three. It is

1217
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: perhaps a slim down version because I had to cut

1218
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: them our normal reverb guy Sha has been out of

1219
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 2: town the last two weeks.

1220
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: So where is he at? Parts unknown?

1221
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 4: Man?

1222
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: He did a Japan trip relatively recently. He did? He

1223
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: did it? Is he back to Asia? I don't. I

1224
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: don't you know. Is he in the Yukon territory.

1225
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: I believe he's in the greater forty eight States, but oh, okay,

1226
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't, or the lower forty eight states, but I don't.

1227
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where. Man of like a specialized

1228
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: dungeon of some kind.

1229
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever he's into. Yeah, I don't he's he's not

1230
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: doing the reverbs.

1231
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: Okay, he'll be doing him next week. Provided you and

1232
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: I could find a place to record and play the reverbs,

1233
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: we'll be fine.

1234
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: But uh, I cut this version. Okay, I heard all

1235
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: the ones that came in. I could not go as

1236
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: late waiting for reverbs because I had to do all

1237
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: this and study for the show. But here's what we

1238
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 2: got for a week four. Have a listen.

1239
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 4: So this is Cody from Madison, Wisconsin.

1240
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: This is a dirty mic from backline.

1241
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 4: This is Cameron calling from Wisconsin.

1242
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: Hey, it's a pectil pet and stillwater.

1243
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just worrying if you could tell me how

1244
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: a buy out working for a friend.

1245
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 4: That was the most pitiful ending to a game I've

1246
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 4: ever watched. Auburn gave up a block in the back,

1247
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: then two fall start in three sacks in a row,

1248
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: and then to a safety to end the game.

1249
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: These reps today have been so bad that Hugh Freeze

1250
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: actually can blame their loss on someone. The reps from

1251
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: the Auburn Oklahoma game need to be left at the tarmac, fired,

1252
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: or at a minimum driven to Pearl Vision. Not a

1253
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: sponsor could be.

1254
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: This might be Sehr's Clemson team in a decade and

1255
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: QB one might be out for a while. But I

1256
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: just want to say, Coach Frankins Shower, it's a great day, folks.

1257
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: You baby.

1258
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 3: I can't say a lot of good about what happens today.

1259
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: But you got to understand that Bo just figured this

1260
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: coaching thing out. In sixteen years, we'll be back on top.

1261
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: It would appear that maybe Dabo Twinty is the Nick

1262
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Sabit of Mike Gundies.

1263
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: Is Kyle Whittingham the James Franklin of kirk Farncis.

1264
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm calling to report a bakery explosion in Salt Lake City,

1265
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: turnovers everywhere.

1266
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 4: I just watched one of the worst quarters of Badger

1267
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 4: football and I wanted to say, Ty, I forgive you

1268
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: for locking up Wisconsin.

1269
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: Just please lock up Minnesota in.

1270
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 4: The X game. Talk to your kids about foreign o Maryland.

1271
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: They should make every.

1272
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: Game from Maryland in September.

1273
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Dylan Riola might be cause playing as Patrick Mahomes, but

1274
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: after that Hill Mary is it safe to say that

1275
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: Royola has a little bit of Aaron Rodgers in him?

1276
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: Does Dante Moore have a little bit of Darren Thomas

1277
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: at him?

1278
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: And I have one question for you, do you believe

1279
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: in the mean Green? I'm in a tunnel at Notre

1280
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: Dame Stadium because there's lightning. Chris Ash is a problem.

1281
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: Rid Alert wondering if Chris Ash could get fired during

1282
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: a three minute halftime. Look, I'm not saying that Scott

1283
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: Frock is going to continue to win every game that

1284
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: he coaches for UCF. All I'm saying is that you

1285
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: can't prove that you won't. Right now, I'm watching Ties

1286
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: Indiana Hoos put.

1287
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: A whooping on Illinois.

1288
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: Watch out, Big ten coach Digg is about to smoke

1289
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 4: the competition.

1290
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: Wind Bonding. You cowards, Rank Vandy, You cowards.

1291
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

1292
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: I like that.

1293
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: If you are interested in voting over a Baller Top

1294
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: twelve poll, you can go on out to forballers dot

1295
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: com sign up for the Certified or Premium tier. The

1296
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: pole will be posted to our Patreon bright and early

1297
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday morning. You got about a day to get

1298
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: that in before you and I record and make it

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Speaker 2: live for the public. We did get a comment in there.

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01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you paid much attention to the

1301
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame game, but because of the weather delay, right,

1302
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: it was a long weather delay before they got the halftime,

1303
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: and so what they ended up doing was basically making

1304
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: that the halftime.

1305
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: I saw that they just rolled over second to the

1306
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: third quarter. That's right, they just rolled over the I

1307
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: did see that, yeah, which actually was cost to myself.

1308
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: I was watching the game when they came back and

1309
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: there was like thirty nine seconds left in the second quarter.

1310
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: I was like, they're not going to take a break

1311
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: right now after they just three hours or whatever. I

1312
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: don't know how long the break was, but I was

1313
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: very happy to see that they went. They just went

1314
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: second to third. It's good for them.

1315
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: We don't normally take questions on the Saturday night live stream,

1316
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: right because this was I think a different kind of

1317
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: week than we had seen in the previous three, I

1318
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: thought it would be the right time to do it.

1319
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: So let's go to this one here from Joshua, who says,

1320
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: do you have a favorite in the Big twelve after

1321
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: this wild week?

1322
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, a favorite in the Big Twelve after this

1323
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: wild week? I'd have to look at all of the

1324
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: schedules together and like some sort of matrix formation. I'm

1325
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm not gonna be a prisoner of the moment.

1326
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Iowa State right now?

1327
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Iowa State in Texas Tech

1328
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: for me, Yeah, I think that's my favorite, not favorites.

1329
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: I think that's how I'm feeling right now. I mean, okay,

1330
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: Texas Tech really showed me something today. There's a reason

1331
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: that you and I both let off with Texas Tech

1332
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: beating Utah. Utah is not an easy place to play,

1333
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 2: right and this is not, again a Texas Tech squad

1334
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: that is accustomed to being in defensive struggles for three

1335
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: and a half quarters.

1336
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: Right.

1337
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: So, whether that's because of the talent they brought in

1338
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: or the mentality that Joey maguire has put in place,

1339
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not on the ground, I don't know,

1340
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: but that to me is again the most impressive singularly,

1341
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: the most impressive thing that we saw in week four.

1342
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: And I'd be hard pressed to put anybody other than

1343
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: Texas Tech in that game right now, if you're asking

1344
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: me now after week four, you know, I was really

1345
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: really impressed by what I saw.

1346
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: By the way, ASU coming up just on the topic

1347
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: of the Big twelve, after this Baylor win TCU at

1348
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: home at Utah, Texas Tech Houston, who might be a

1349
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: decent defense at Iowa State. That's their media middle, Okay,

1350
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: So if they start out that media middle in an

1351
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: impressive way, I reserve the right to say, oh, as

1352
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: he was doing it for me. I love this question

1353
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: from a different only answering josh questions. Is that the

1354
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: big thing tonight?

1355
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just a good questions from Josh. Yeah,

1356
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: It's a question that we talked a lot about when

1357
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: we previewed the Big ten. Yeah, but the ACC in

1358
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: the preseason did not have this same tenor to it. Okay,

1359
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: Joshua says who is the fourth best ACC team? He

1360
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 2: says a clear top three, but it feels like a

1361
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: mess after that, So I guess his top three would

1362
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: probably be Miami Yeah, Florida State, James Yeah, Florida State,

1363
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 2: and Georgia Tech.

1364
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: Sure, who would you put forth?

1365
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: Uh?

1366
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: Is Clemson fourth?

1367
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: No?

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01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: Not right now? Uh, they just lost to a different

1369
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: ACC team today? Is Syracuse?

1370
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: No? I would?

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01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: I would right now? I think the conversation is around

1372
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: Louisville almost three and oh it hasn't been a crazy

1373
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: impressive season, but the three and no, uh, Duke, I'm

1374
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna need to see more consistency. I don't know what

1375
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: the score of the Cal game is, but I'm gonna

1376
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: need to see more from Cal after last season. We

1377
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: like JKS. But who are they playing tonight at San

1378
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: Diego State? I believe yep. Uh yeah, I'm gonna say

1379
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: for fourth, I'll plant my flag right now and I'll

1380
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: say Louisville. Okay, don't love it, but it's tough. I

1381
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: still gotta.

1382
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: Believe that Clemson can get their act together.

1383
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: Why, I don't know what is their act exactly after

1384
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: the last fifteen games.

1385
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's it. I would love to say Cal,

1386
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: but I think Cal is still a little too flawed,

1387
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,959
Speaker 2: even though they're really fun at quarterback.

1388
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: I just they don't have the skill talent to me.

1389
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: I think my default answer would probably end up being

1390
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: Duke Duke over Louisville or smuu an interesting case as well.

1391
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: But to the point here, yeah, it is a mess

1392
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: after that top three. I think that's that's a given.

1393
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: Josh Nick Sooner junior once could Josh with Oklahoma beating

1394
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: Auburn and Jackson Arnold, have they taken all the steps

1395
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: to get the monkey off their back from last year?

1396
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: So the monkey on the back question for Oklahoma is

1397
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: an interesting one. Yeah, so far, I think they've gotten

1398
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: the monkey off their back, improving that they can have

1399
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 2: a productive offense or at least a product to quarterback.

1400
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: Because we didn't see that at all last year. So

1401
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: that part is definitely better. But I still have questions

1402
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 2: about the overall plan on offense. How much can you

1403
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: put on one guy John Mattier. Will they be able

1404
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 2: to run the ball as they get into some of

1405
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: the better teams on their schedule. This is ultimately a

1406
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: very very limited sample size with Oklahoma, and I think

1407
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: the quote unquote monkey on the back is going to

1408
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: be against the better schools here. This is a program

1409
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 2: that's used to winning. So to go four and oh,

1410
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: to start five and oh, as they will be after

1411
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: next week, that's all well and good. And Illinois almost

1412
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: say Illinois don't know why it's late Oklahoma was going

1413
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: to find a way into a bowl game. I think

1414
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: that much is certain. Oklahoma is better than I thought

1415
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: they were going to be. I'm already willing to acknowledge that.

1416
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 2: But the question of what is the monkey on the

1417
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: back is I think nuanced and kind of interesting in

1418
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 2: and of itself.

1419
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just a question of offensive pop.

1420
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: You talk about the running game, we talk about the

1421
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the monkey on their back from

1422
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: last season, it's down four or five of their best

1423
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: receivers last year, and so it's not only having guys healthy,

1424
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: but having a viable complete offense would probably go a

1425
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: long way. They have Texas, South Carolina, Ole, Miss Tennessee, Pama, Missoo,

1426
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: and LSU. They're gonna need to score thirty points in

1427
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: some of those games. Yeah, and that is when I

1428
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,480
Speaker 1: will feel confident that, like, oh, this is an evolved,

1429
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: really fascinating winning team. Yeah.

1430
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Final question here from Mason, how

1431
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: are we feeling about the Heisman Trophy?

1432
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: Pretty good? I think they should have it again this year,

1433
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: probably in New York the Downtown Athletic Club.

1434
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 3: Ah.

1435
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: How am I feeling about the Heisman Trophy? We just

1436
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: haven't seen level of competition that extensively. So I think

1437
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: we can eliminate from the top of the conversation a

1438
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: couple of guys that were there and Kate club Nick

1439
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: and Arch Manning. Although he we'd have mentioned it, but

1440
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: he did perform really well against Sam Houston tonight. Who's

1441
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: in that conversation right now, Well.

1442
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean John Mattier is definitely in that conversation. I

1443
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: think coming into the week, Carson Beck was actually the

1444
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: prohibitive favorite favorite to win, but I just don't feel

1445
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: that strongly about Carson Beck.

1446
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: I'd put Justice Haynes there.

1447
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: Justice Haines with the way that he has played. We

1448
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: didn't see Julian saying this week, but Julian Sayan has

1449
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: I think every possibility of being in that conversation. I

1450
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 2: would also add a guy like get Dante Moore.

1451
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Dante More. We need to see the competition this week.

1452
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: I think he has extraordinary ability and his receivers tight

1453
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: ends look really good. That should be a complete offense.

1454
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: He should be able to put up big numbers and

1455
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: big games. I can tell you who my dark horse

1456
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: is right now.

1457
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: I just set up a moda Hardy by the way,

1458
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: Mott Hardy. Mott Hardy is a great selection as well.

1459
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: My dark horse is Tommy Castellanos from Florida State because.

1460
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: He would have a narrative point of view. Yeah, he

1461
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: would absolutely have an error.

1462
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 4: Now.

1463
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: I think he hurt his leg in the game today

1464
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: against Kent. It looks like he's gonna be fine. He'll

1465
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: be back in time for the Miami game. I'm sure.

1466
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: But right now he's at twenty five to one. The

1467
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: acc to the previous point is a certifiable mess. After

1468
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: that top three or four. I mean, it's just a

1469
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 2: lot of teams that feel the same, and so Florida

1470
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 2: State if they're seventy five percent as good as they've

1471
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: looked so far, once they get into some of the

1472
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 2: meat of their schedule, Tommy Castellanos is going to have

1473
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: every opportunity to show out and the offense is going

1474
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: to run through him based on what we've seen so far.

1475
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: So they're not that far away at this point with

1476
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: the state of the conference from being one of those

1477
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: teams that you know, again, we're talking about them as

1478
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: a top three team now, but it's not going to

1479
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: take much for them to stay there and get into

1480
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 2: that ACC title game a couple of weeks down the line.

1481
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: If they're there, it's because of him. And if they're

1482
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 2: there because of him, there's a pretty good chance that

1483
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: he's in this conversation. At a minimum, his odds are

1484
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: going to go down.

1485
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: They have to.

1486
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: So that's the name that I'm looking at right now.

1487
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: That I don't hate buying low, by the way, Okay,

1488
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't hate buying low with Ty Simpson in this moment. Yeah,

1489
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: I don't hate the idea of looking at favorable numbers

1490
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: for the Bulldoza Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, there's a ton because

1491
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: you do have to look at opportunities against top flight

1492
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: teams that are going to be on like Network TV

1493
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: at night or on Big newon or whatever. There's a

1494
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: lot of really fun names right now. Mess to maker,

1495
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: is that how you pronounce it?

1496
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: I don't think Drew Mestemaker is gonna win the Heisman

1497
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: from North Texas, but he's looked really good.

1498
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: Good Heisman caliber.

1499
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: Okay caliber, let's close this thing out some doodle words.

1500
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 3: Okay.

1501
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,759
Speaker 2: We put a call out on social media every Saturday

1502
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 2: night we ask you for your dudes. Who were your

1503
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: top performers from the week? That was dan? Who do

1504
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: we got for week four?

1505
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: Obviously? Eric McAllister. When you catch two hundred and fifty

1506
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: four yards worth of passes, that's going to just do

1507
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: it for me.

1508
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1509
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: There were a lot of like really interesting performances. Cam

1510
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: Edwards at Yukon went for about two hundred yards. I

1511
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Chan Moo at Virginia kind of a fun

1512
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: offensive like Bengal Branson threw for a bunch of yards

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: against Virginia. Okay, and Chandler Morris had a bunch for Virginia.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to fully dedicate a time

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Speaker 1: to your guy, Mark Gronowski for Iowa, but he's improving.

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Speaker 2: You mean, the winningest quarterback in the history of college football, Markronowski?

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Speaker 1: Well, on multiple level.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this if you combine everything all levels

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Speaker 2: of college football? Okay, Mark Ronowski with their win over

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Speaker 2: Rutgers on Friday night, thirty eight, twenty eighty at three

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Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns. If you consider all of the wins over

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Speaker 2: the course of his career, he is fifty two. His

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01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: career record is fifty two and seven. That is the

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Speaker 2: most career wins of anyone to ever play college football.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Mark Ronows, Congratulations to him.

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Speaker 1: I got Sutton Smith for Memphis, had a terrific game

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Speaker 1: against the Arkansas defense. Dylan Riley for Boise very quietly

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Speaker 1: against in a sort of fun shootout against air Force,

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Speaker 1: had a big night, four touchdowns, nine yards per carry.

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Speaker 1: Who else did I really like here?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: The receiver from Rutgers Ian Strong in a losing effort.

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Speaker 1: That was a fun back and forth on hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, Okay, back on the board. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of anybody's anybody you have. Jeremiah Love had a

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: good game because he had a not so great opponent.

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Speaker 1: Went probably one hundred and fifty yards, right, Jeremiah Love.

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Speaker 2: Jadarian Price, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you mentioned not Hardy earlier.

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Speaker 2: Mott Hardy I think is Oh, he's ridiculous. Is going

1540
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: to be a perennial dude? But not Will Hammond, big

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Speaker 2: Bill h big Bill h Man Yep. Absolutely for Texas,

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: tech stepped in performed admirably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The big one for me is Eric Callister two hundred

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01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: and fifty through the air. But yes, right in again,

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Speaker 2: sliverbogimail dot com. If you've got any dudes that we

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Speaker 2: missed that you think should feel slighted by us not

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Speaker 2: mentioning them, here.

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Speaker 1: You go, Jeremy in the comments. Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker for Texas,

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01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: tacking eleven tackles, sack, force, fumble and a pick and

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Speaker 1: a fumble.

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Speaker 2: Recude, he was everywhere. Yes, a lot of great performances

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Speaker 2: a week four. Please do let us know who we missed.

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01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are many that we missed. Of course,

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Speaker 2: wherever it is you are listening or watching, if you

1556
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,799
Speaker 2: want to drop us a comment that helps it obviously

1557
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 2: helps us keep in tune with what's going on in

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: the Verballer hood and what you guys think and feel

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: about what we just saw in the world of college football.

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01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: Check us out at verballers dot com if you want

1561
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: to further support what Dan and I do again, the

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Speaker 2: Verballer Top twelve poll in advance of Week five will

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Speaker 2: be posted bright and early on Sunday morning if you're

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: a certified or Premium member. I would also remind people

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01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 2: that the plan for next week is that you and

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Speaker 2: I are going to try and do this show from

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Speaker 2: Parts unknown in State College, Pennsylvania after the Penn State

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01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: Oregon game. Yes, so we've got a way into the stadium.

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 2: We're going to make sure that work. It's yeah, we're

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01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: primed and ready to go to talk about all things

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01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: college football at this hour next week, but the setting's

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01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: going to look a little bit different. Will be in

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01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: the same spot. If there are any changes for whatever

1574
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: reason to the schedule, we'll make sure we'll let you know.

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01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 2: But at time of recording here, the plan is to

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Speaker 2: go off without a hitch and do the normal thing

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01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: on a Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Truly my favorite part of the season. Anytime I get

1579
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: to be at college football. Yes, yes, on that note.

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Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: for myself, Tie hilden Brandt, For everybody out there supporting

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01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: the cause, watching, listening along at home. Thank you as

1583
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 2: always for being here with us and being part of

1584
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: the community. We'll catch you all on Tuesday. In the

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Speaker 2: meantime to day soft peace