1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: M Bridgewater is a production of I Heart Radio three 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: D audio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Monkey. For 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: a full exposure, listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. And 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm trapped here. I've been trapped. The things are fitting out. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: It's it's opening again. And I'm trapped here. I've been trapped. 6 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: The things are fitting out. It's it's opening again. What 7 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: are you trying to tell me? Thomas Nana, Hey, morning baby? 8 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: What was that? Mm hmm just a message? Why did 9 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: it sound like that? Mm hmmm? Bad connection? I guess 10 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: may used that you've been using the same machine for 11 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: like a hundred years. You really need to get a 12 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: real phone, Nana. Okay, I have a real phone. Well, 13 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean like an iPhone or something. Ethan, I have 14 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: a cell phone. It just doesn't work out here, whatever, whatever. Okay, 15 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: do you sleep Okay? Yeah, kind of. I don't know. 16 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: The cell is kind of always freaks me out, it does. 17 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: It's just so quiet, it's peaceful. Yes, Well, plus you 18 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: love the quiet. That's what camping is. Aren't you spending 19 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: all of next weekend sleeping in the woods. First quiet 20 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: is way different than house quiet. Got it? High game 21 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: was fun though, right, Yeah, yeah, can can we go 22 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: home now? Of course, m Um. I just wanted to 23 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: say thank you for agreeing to do this, and I'm 24 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry about yesterday. No, I'm sorry. I should never 25 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: have snapped at you like that. It's just I don't know. 26 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I guess it's been a very long, very strange week. Yeah, 27 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: you can say that again. I've had to think about 28 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: so many things that I haven't thought about in years. 29 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: It's jarring, I know, And I never want to treat 30 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: this all so callously, you know, finding your dad's badge, 31 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: it just it must have been traumatic, and I'm sorry 32 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: for making it into fodder for work so stupid. No, honestly, 33 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: you didn't. It's I'm right there with you. Really. It's 34 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: opened up some interesting avenues areas of research that we 35 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: haven't been looking at before. And you're not wrong. A 36 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: nonfiction book is probably going to be a lot more 37 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: appealing to people if there's some kind of central story, 38 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. At the very least, the 39 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: police files are going to be very useful primary sources. Still, 40 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for getting carried away. Honestly, I was just 41 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: the same when I was your age. Fascinated and excited 42 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: about the uncannyness of America and you're not. Now, no 43 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: I am. It's just, you know, you get old, some 44 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: of the luster gets lost. I have to say, it's 45 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: been nice to have someone to talk to about all 46 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: this though. Honestly, thank you, of course. I'm I'm always 47 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: here you. I appreciate that. I don't really have well, 48 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: you know me, you know, I'm a consummate bachelor. So 49 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: but you have people to talk to, like, um, you know, 50 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: there's uh, there's your mom. I'm sure she has a 51 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: lot to say about all of this. Yeah, not really not. Actually, 52 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: we've just never never been that close. I can't believe 53 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: that I let you talk me into this on a Saturday. 54 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: I just think that if we have an opportunity to 55 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: find out about those symbols, then you know, we know 56 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: what they are. They're not sense from a cult, yeah, 57 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: but but if you figure out what it means, then 58 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: we can find out where they're gathering. Yeah. It's really 59 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: not the best name for a group, is it. No? 60 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: Not really, Although I wouldn't expect much from a group 61 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: of people that believes there are spirits on the other 62 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: side of some veil. I think you just offended anyone 63 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: who believes in any religion. Well, probably wouldn't be the 64 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: first time. So how do you know this girl? This girl, well, 65 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: she goes to the college. We were in the same 66 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: statistics class a few years ago. Um, I think she's 67 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: a senior now. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she's a senior now. 68 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: And she speaks Wapanah Pretty sure, Yeah, you're pretty sure. Well, 69 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, her dad is Wapanag and I think she 70 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: learned some when she was younger. She's really really smart, 71 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: and she seemed totally up to help us out. And 72 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: I figured we could explain the whole thing in person, 73 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, just really look at each other and just 74 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: explain it. I see, got it. Oh, here we are, 75 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: m What did you say? Her last name was why God, 76 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: come in, Come in out of the rain, Jeremy Bradshaw, 77 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: as I live and breathe. How have you been, Joe 78 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: good good? What the hell are you doing here? Well? Um, 79 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Olivia said it might be okay if I came by. Oh, oh, 80 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: I didn't realize she was dating anyone. No, No, I'm not, 81 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm not we're not. No, we just we went to 82 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: college together. The college you teach at yes, yeah, and 83 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: I never I don't. I don't think I ever had 84 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Olivia as student. So what are you doing here? How 85 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: do you two? Well, it's a it's a bit random, 86 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I know, but um a vipen here's my t A 87 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: and I'm working on a book about the Bridgewater Triangle. 88 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: That's right, you're a folklore professor. Come on, let's sit down. 89 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: We wanted to ask Olivia about some wampanock symbols we found. 90 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, liv knows a little bit of the language. 91 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: She's upstairs working. Let me go grab her. Please sit down? 92 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: S it? Um, So you guys were friends in high school? No, 93 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: I know, Um, I wouldn't say we were friends. A 94 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: friend friend might be putting a little strong. Joe and 95 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: I were what do you guys call it? We were 96 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: a friend of mis I think, I promise you no 97 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: one calls it that. I love that you're training me 98 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: to be cool. It been, um, well, whatever you want 99 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: to call it. I guess we were kind of school rivals, 100 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and keikot valedictorian over me, and then I scored better 101 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: on the S A T S. And then we both 102 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: went to Harvard. Gotcha one of those rivalries. That never 103 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: has a winner. I don't know. If Joseph has a 104 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: lovely wife and two kids and this big house, I U, 105 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there wasn't a winner. She'll be down 106 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: in a few That girl works harder than anyone in 107 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the family. She's still a student, isn't she h? But 108 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: she also works freelance doing cybersecurity for some local businesses. 109 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Of course she does very impressive. But how about you. 110 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: You're writing a book. Yeah, I'm about halfway through the manuscript. 111 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: It's all about the legend and folklore of the Bridgewater Triangle. 112 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, I would have thought you had a WAPAG 113 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: contact already. If you're writing a book on the region. Oh, 114 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I do you know you should talk to Layard. She's 115 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: my contact. Of course. I should have never doubted your 116 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: academic fastidiousness. So what can Olivia do for you that 117 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: Layard can't. Do you recognize this rock? Should I recognize 118 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: a rock? It's in Freetown Forest. I don't spend much 119 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: time there, not since we were kids. Anyway, do you 120 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: recognize any of the symbols on it? The second photo 121 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: right here is zoomed in. AH, looks like maybe a 122 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:57,119 Speaker 1: word for water, and this might be sunrise or sunset, 123 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: so it is in wa a knock. I don't know. 124 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: It's not any grammar structure I recognize, and it doesn't 125 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: seem to be wholly accurate. But then again, I don't 126 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: speak the language. No, one does, not really, not until 127 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Laird started bringing it back, which again leads to the question, 128 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: why are you here instead of talking to her? Well, 129 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: this isn't really something that I wanted to bother her. 130 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: When why Well, um, I guess it's not strictly speaking, 131 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: a scholarly pursuit. What's going on, Jeremy. I know this 132 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: is going to sound a little crazy, but we think 133 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: that there might be a cult in the woods and 134 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: that they're using these symbols to communicate with each other. 135 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: What have you heard of the gathering? No? I haven't. Wow, 136 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: that's that's the name of the cult. These symbols have 137 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: appeared near asson at Ledge in the last few days, 138 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: and we're just we're trying to figure out what they say. 139 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: And you didn't want to show on actual linguist a 140 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: bastardized version of her language that a bunch of cultists 141 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: are using to talk to each other. Yeah, something like that. 142 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't blame you the people that tell stories about 143 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: the woods, that believe something mystical is there. Half the 144 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: time it's a bunch of white people taking our legends 145 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: and turning them into ghost stories. M hmm. Do you 146 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: know why we even have any of our language left? 147 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: Why didn't it die with the last Natives speaker a 148 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years ago? There's a Christian Bible written 149 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: in Wampanog. Colonizers wrote it so they could convert us 150 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: to their religion, civilize us. Yikes, that sounds like the 151 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: early settlers already. I'm assuming the gathering isn't a Native 152 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: American group. No, no, not not that I know of. Well, 153 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: then this looks like more of the same non native 154 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: folks using our culture to promote their own. Well I'm 155 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for it and not trying to do 156 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: any co opting here or just trying to figure out 157 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: what it says. But why, Joe, are you lecturing somebody 158 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: on Algonquin history again? Oh? M Jeremy, Hi, Shelly, I 159 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't know you were coming over. I would have Oh god, no, no, no, 160 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was coming over either. I just 161 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: dropped in unexpectedly. I'm so glad to see you though. Yeah, 162 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: me too, Helles have been ah geez, five years at 163 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: least the last high school reunion probably right. Yeah, yeah, 164 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: that's right. So how are you? I'm good, I'm good. Um, 165 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: this is my t a Vippin. Hi. It's nice to 166 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: meet you. I went to college with your daughter or ma'am. Oh, 167 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: how nice? Yeah, I I didn't realize that Professor Bradshaw 168 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: went to high school with her parents only in a 169 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: small town. Huh, I'm sorry, I'm I'm sure Olivia has 170 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: mentioned your she just oh I doubt it. I really 171 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: doubt it. Oh, hey, hippen right, yes we have you 172 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: remember Professor Bradshaw, don't you. I'm not sure we ever met. Actually, 173 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: I went to high school with your dad. Cool so 174 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: hippin Yeah, I'm hipp whipping coroner from yes Statistics. I know. 175 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: Also email yesterday right right from yesterday? You still work 176 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: at the college, right? Yeah? Wow? Yeah, I am actually 177 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Professor bradshaw'st t Heny. You guys have some kind of 178 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: project do you want my help on? Yeah? If you 179 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: have time to spare, would appreciate it. Sure I can. Hello. Hey, 180 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: we're all in here. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know 181 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: that you were having guests. We can No, it's all right, 182 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: it's it's just my mother. Hi, sweetie, how is hiking? 183 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: It was good? This is our youngest. Nice to meet you. 184 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Ere you ready for the big camping trip next weekend? Definitely? 185 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Nana didn't tell you any scary stories, did she No, 186 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: Nana did not. Oh, this is my mother and mom 187 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: this is that's okay, Shelly. We already know each other. Bradshaw. 188 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: He an you do how well? AND's been helping me 189 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: with some local research for my book, crime statistics, paranormal 190 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: reports and that sort of stuff. Right, and Hi, it's 191 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: so nice to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. 192 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: You must be Vivin that's right. So that means you're 193 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Olivia's grandmother. I can't believe you have grandkids. Well, no 194 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: need to sound so surprised, Bradshaw. No, it's just I 195 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: thought you said you weren't good with kids. She's not well. Listen, 196 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: should we do this thing? Or what? What thing? We 197 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: were hoping Olivia could help us translate some symbols? Would 198 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: these happen to be the symbols you found on a 199 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: rock near San at Ledge. He don't tell me that 200 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing here. I'm dropping off my grandson. Actually, kid, 201 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: I was hoping you could help me with a little something. 202 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Is it weird? Isn't it always? No? Mhmm oh, I'm 203 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: just teasing, Shelly. I've put all that paranormal business behind me. 204 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: So you like computers, sorry, just you've got a lot 205 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: of computers. And yeah, I'm a computer science major, remember right, right, Yeah, 206 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm more of a book guy myself. That's not why 207 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: you're carrying around actual photos. Yeah, I like to be 208 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: able to mark them up, and you know you can 209 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: do that on your phone, right. So what do you 210 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: need Olivia's help with? Why the hell do you care? Well, 211 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to actually find out real information and not 212 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: dig up supernatural skeletons. Neither, am I. But explain to 213 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: me why exactly Petrick lifts carved this week? Would be 214 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: good information for your history book because it shows the 215 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: hold that these old legends have on this area's consciousness. 216 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: The same could be said for Thomas's badge, a forty 217 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: year old disappearance was able to catch the attention of 218 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: the Internet. A very tiny portion of the Internet. Still, 219 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: that's why I'm here the reddit post. I want to 220 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: know who made it, what else they might know? Do 221 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: you think they'd actually be useful, more useful than me? 222 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: This isn't Wampanock, is not really. It's like whoever wrote 223 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: it has seen some Wapanock before, but it's just doing 224 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: it by memory. I'm not sure it really translates to anything. 225 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Your dad said that it um maybe said something about 226 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: water or sunrise, could be those symbols there could be 227 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: for curtain and beginning, but it's not the actual Wampanock language. 228 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: It looks like it's taken from a couple of different cultures, 229 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm not an expert, and whoever 230 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: carved these clearly isn't either onto what I know. You know, 231 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: your dad was always good at computers too. He took 232 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: it up before it was cool, Yeah, and he loves 233 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: lording it over me being the o G hacker. I 234 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: don't want to go into cybersecurity like him, though. I 235 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: thought that's what you were doing now, yeah, just to 236 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: pick up some extra cash. It's not long term. May 237 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: I ask Olivia, what do you want to do? I 238 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Something more interesting. That's why I like helping 239 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: Ann out with her weird little projects. So you're into 240 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: this Bridgewater Triangle stuff like an No, not really, at 241 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: least not the weird old myths in this town. People 242 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: used to create narratives about people like me. But Internet 243 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: myth that stuff I can get into. What's internet myth? Yeah? 244 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: You know slender Man, Polybius, oh, the elevator game, Momo. 245 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're saying. You have to 246 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: keep up with the times, Bradshaw. Are you telling me 247 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: that you know what? Momo is a half bird, half 248 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: woman who tells you to kill yourself. Are you serious? 249 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: Is she serious? The Internet is a very dark place. Okay. 250 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: The author of the Reddit post about your dad's badge 251 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: is one Katie Frank's. Of course, anyone know who that is? 252 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: No no idea? Is she local? Yep? Wait, you know her, 253 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: professor Bradshaw does, and you do too, Miss Becker. What 254 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: it's that hiker you scared with the missing friend? That 255 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: that's Katie Frank's. Uh yeah, it all makes sense now. 256 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Mike said that there was a frequent poster who had 257 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: a partner on the force. What are you talking about? 258 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: Officer Batista. What. Yeah, she came to me the other 259 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: night to tell me about her girlfriend, Katie, and as 260 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: symbols on the rock, she says, it's some kind of 261 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: communication for the cult, and it's a way they tell 262 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: each other where they're going to meet up. The cop 263 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: isn't a cult. Oh, we don't know it's a cult. 264 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: Well it is a cult, but I don't think the 265 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: cop is in it. It's her girlfriend. It's all very complicated. 266 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: Katie Frank's the hiker. Then why are you talking to 267 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: me if you know someone who knows the code? No, no, 268 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Katie doesn't know the code. She's not Inner Circle. Oh 269 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: that's creepy. Why didn't you call me? And this really 270 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: isn't any of your business. I've been poring over the 271 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: same files for the past forty years and this just 272 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: gets dropped into your lap and you don't even bother 273 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: to tell me. I don't see why this is important 274 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: to you. If the gathering is back, that's extremely important. 275 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: You said they were harmless. That doesn't mean they're clueless. 276 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: They could have information. Um, guys, this doesn't look very 277 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: harmless to me. What is it is that Katie's private 278 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: email is that ethical? Is human sacrifice ethical? What this 279 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: isn't Katie's email? It's a protected account. What does that mean? 280 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: It just means it's anonymous and really hard to trace. 281 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I p F anyone can buy one. They're not inherently suspicious. 282 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: I think having an untraceable anonymous email is pretty suspicious. 283 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: I have one why But the point is I went 284 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: into Katie's email, scant her contact for addresses from certain 285 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: email providers once that sell protected accounts, and found a 286 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: center who I think might be in the inner circle. 287 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: This is their inbox. Wait wait, so so you did 288 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: all of that just now? Yep? Wow? So does that 289 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: mean that you know who's in the inner circle? Now? No? 290 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: But I think I know how you can find out how. 291 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: This email is talking about a meeting of the gathering, 292 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: one that is preparing for the ultimate sacrifice. And you 293 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: think that means human sacrifice. Kind of sounds like it, 294 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: don't you think? But you know how? People aren't Reddit though, right, 295 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: They talk a lot of crap. This isn't Reddit. This 296 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: is several anonymous people communicating about meeting. There are specifics, 297 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: what specifics The meeting is happening in Hackamox Swamp tonight. 298 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: It really is a small world, isn't it. That is 299 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: the night time you've said that in the past hour. 300 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: It's just strange. That's all strange that I have a family. Well, okay, 301 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't spend as much time with them as i'd 302 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: like my daughter and I won't. It's complicated. You and 303 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Olivia seem close though. M Yeah, we've come to an agreement. 304 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: She's a real good kid, as smart as a whip, 305 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: but motivated. I think it's because she's bored. I tried 306 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: to give her projects and hacking into our reddit posters, 307 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: private email as a productive project. Does this far? Didn't 308 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: it this far? And what we're grasping at straws, we're 309 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: chasing down what's probably a group of benign weirdos. If 310 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: you think they're so benign, then while the nervous chatter nor, 311 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I don't do that right. Okay. 312 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Your dad was the same way. When he wasn't sure 313 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: what to expect, he just talk and talk and talk 314 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: and talk, like controlling what he said meant that he'd 315 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: be able to control everything else too. I don't try 316 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: to control everything. No, you just dedicate your entire profession 317 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: to explaining the unexplainable because you hate being right. Just 318 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: because I like being right doesn't mean I have control issues. 319 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: I can't help that I'm right. Surely a professor of 320 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: folklore understands that the truth is a matter of perspective. 321 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: What what does that? Even? My dear? It sounds like chanting? 322 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: Come on, you think that's a gathering? I don't know something? 323 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: Oh man? And are you're right? Ship? Are you hurt? What? What? What? 324 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: What was that? No? Idea? The wind out of me? 325 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: Was that a deal? As it's one of their six 326 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: ft tall deer? It was a person? What's that? They stopped? Quiet? 327 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: There's somebody here know what? Come on, come on, we 328 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: need to do now, we need to follow them? What? Yeah, honey, 329 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: this way? How can you? I can't see a tempting 330 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: and ship. Bridgewater was created by Aaron Manky and written 331 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: and directed by Lauren Shipping, with executive producers Aaron Manky, 332 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: Misha Collins, Matt Frederick and Alex Williams, supervising producer Trevor Young, 333 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: editing and sound designed by Trevor Young and Matt Stillo, 334 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: and music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, 335 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Karen Sony as Vipen Corona, 336 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: Lori Allen as Nancy Collins, Cheryl Umania as Officer Bautista, 337 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Victoria Grace as Katie Frank's Will Wheaton as Captain Haddock, 338 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Jonathan Joss as Joseph Hoskins, 339 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: Sabra May as Olivia Hoskins, Samuel Marty as Ethan Hoskins, 340 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: Kristin Bauer as Celeste, and Nathan Fillion as Thomas Bradshaw, 341 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: with additional voice acting by brigand Snow, Andrew Nowak, Julia Maurizawa, 342 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: Jarvis Johnson and Brielle Bresnan, Kristen dim Curio, James Oliva, 343 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: and Leron Amil. 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