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Speaker 1: Hi. So I've been thinking about talking about dating and

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Speaker 1: dating apps. Of course, being single, I've been thinking about this,

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Speaker 1: um but I've thought about this in the past. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a very interesting space, and the dating apps

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Speaker 1: space is fascinating. I had a friend who was it

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Speaker 1: to three over three years ago, that is in her forties,

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Speaker 1: and she asked me if I had ever been out

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Speaker 1: a dating app, and I said no, and not like judging,

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Speaker 1: but maybe a little judging, and just thought I would

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Speaker 1: never do that. That's just not me and not even

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Speaker 1: really totally is a public person as a person from

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Speaker 1: a different generation, and just I don't know, it just

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Speaker 1: did not feel like it applied to me. It's like

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Speaker 1: I don't eat fish. I'm allergic to fish, so I

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Speaker 1: just never even look at it on the menu. So

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Speaker 1: I just thought no. And she said, well, I'm on

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Speaker 1: and they look like real, like they were walking upright,

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Speaker 1: they had all their teeth, like they were cute. I

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Speaker 1: just like, well, and they had jobs. I was just like, wow,

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Speaker 1: they're real human beings online dating and so she said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you have to make time for it. It becomes

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Speaker 1: sort of like a job. You can't just be in

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Speaker 1: a time when you you don't have any time to

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Speaker 1: do anything, which is a lot of my life by

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Speaker 1: the same token, if you don't have any time to

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Speaker 1: do anything, and I'm very antisocial, I'm very much a homebody.

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Speaker 1: I'm very surprisingly insular. And so online dating is great

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Speaker 1: because I think that nobody on there knows who I am,

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Speaker 1: just because I'll put like just be as my name,

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Speaker 1: and there's never anything. There's just like three pictures and

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Speaker 1: no profile. The only thing I ever would say was

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Speaker 1: I only swept the small stuff. But now I've taken

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Speaker 1: it down to the sticks, where if I was online dating,

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Speaker 1: it says nothing. And so you think, like, then no

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Speaker 1: one's ever gonna like you, because like other people are

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Speaker 1: like have kids, don't want more, smoke, don't smoke Jewish

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Speaker 1: if you like Trump, swipe to the left. If you

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Speaker 1: you know fucking five eleven, you know I'm an a

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Speaker 1: wine like long walks to the bar, short strolls on

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Speaker 1: And I don't read any of that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I just look to see where someone lives,

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Speaker 1: try to get a sense of their job, and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe look at a watch, like look at you know,

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Speaker 1: to see if they're like some of them were those

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Speaker 1: like sort of glasses that look very like that just

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Speaker 1: in a fleece. They're in just like a fleece in

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Speaker 1: a college sweatshirt and they're like fifty two. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's not for me, you know. Just you try to

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Speaker 1: get a sense, and then you know, you could take

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Speaker 1: it to the next level where I'm thinking, Okay, there's

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Speaker 1: no way this person is being able to handle my

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Speaker 1: whole program. So you start thinking all these things and

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Speaker 1: then you're just like, funk, why would I even do this?

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Speaker 1: And then you'll realize that someone knows who you are,

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Speaker 1: and then they a lot of people think I'm punking

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Speaker 1: that is this really? Bethany Frankel and I know a

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Speaker 1: couple of really famous people that do apps. Some do

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Speaker 1: like the mass apps like I'm talking about, and then

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Speaker 1: they're so many like there are ones that are like

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Speaker 1: hinge and I don't know what that means hinge. I

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Speaker 1: think it means like you know somebody that they know

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Speaker 1: somebody and okay, cupid. I remember I know somebody who

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Speaker 1: he was going to marry her. And those seem like

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Speaker 1: more granular and you've gotta be some sort of an

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Speaker 1: you've probably heard about, which is um like quote unquote

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Speaker 1: for famous people and um a lot yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of green juice, a lot of yoga poses, a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know, meditating on their One person said to

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Speaker 1: me two people two people on Riyah said, you're the

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Speaker 1: women aren't dressed. They're not wearing clothing, so it was like,

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Speaker 1: not that big of they're wearing fucking bikinis, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of skull caps in August,

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Speaker 1: ashtray department of Barney or their home department used to

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Speaker 1: have like four candles and like shark skin backgam and

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Speaker 1: things are from Sweden and Europe. Oh by the way,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole fucking international section. So you're like scrolling

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Speaker 1: in RYA and then all of a sudden, just like

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Speaker 1: for for days, everybody's from Stockholm in Germany and Australia. Like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I had a fucking problem with Boston. I don't need

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Speaker 1: to be dating something from Stockholm. I'm not even good

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Speaker 1: but at Sweden. But like, is that what nine hours

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Speaker 1: on a plane I've been to Australia. It's fucking far. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can plan that once every fucking millennium. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: there's a whole multiple day fucking you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: small world. After all, Epcot adventure that happens, I'm RYA.

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Speaker 1: That's really fucking frustrating. Figure out your fucking geography. But

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Speaker 1: also you run through the RYA and so fast, like

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Speaker 1: real fast. So and you're like, all right, so famous

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Speaker 1: people have a very small selection like that section of Barney's.

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Speaker 1: Then if you're on Bumble that's like Macy's, there could

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Speaker 1: be you know, there could be some gems in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's also some crap in there too, Like

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Speaker 1: you gotta lead through a lot of ship you know,

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Speaker 1: that are like growing out with me and my buddies

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Speaker 1: like that type, and that's like not for me. But

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Speaker 1: then you'll have like there's like a dangling shiny I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're like billionaires there, but there's

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Speaker 1: like a dangling shiny successful banker in there. But you've

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Speaker 1: So that's a challenging thing. And then there's another one

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Speaker 1: that's League, which is like I guess the concept is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be that everybody's educated. I would say ivy

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Speaker 1: league educated. I guess that's their goal, But then they

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Speaker 1: something's not enough. So the league is like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like Brooks Brothers, you know, like a little dorky and stodgy,

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Speaker 1: And there's a world of matchmakers, and there's a world

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Speaker 1: of matchmakers for richer people. And then there are like

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Speaker 1: but like a more affordable matchmakers have heard of. But

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Speaker 1: some of them, some of them like they're basically hooker wranglers,

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Speaker 1: Like they've got a bunch of billionaires, but they don't mind,

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Speaker 1: you know, throwing them some bimbos to to to make

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Speaker 1: And then are the ones who can't be in their

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Speaker 1: schlocky version. They're just like sort of narrowing down what's

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Speaker 1: on these apps I've just described to you or yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a lot of Then there's like the Sancho

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Speaker 1: that are over on riots. They should sort of cross promote.

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Speaker 1: So dating is just a fucking dream. Let's just put

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Speaker 1: it that way. I'm excited to do it. Sounds de wifeful, alright,

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about online dating? Have you

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Speaker 1: it intimidating? Does it seem counterintuitive? I was a dinosaur

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Speaker 1: something that is just current and a sign of the times.

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Speaker 1: She likes to cook crazy food. She is just wild

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Speaker 1: So Chelsea has a new special on HBO, Max Chelsea

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Speaker 1: Handler Evolution. She is the author of several books, including

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Speaker 1: her latest New York Times bestseller, Life Will Be the

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Speaker 1: Death of Me. So Chelsea and I discussed online dating, politics,

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Speaker 1: done already? You really, if you live, it lives inside

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Speaker 1: sitting on my little pedestal that from who from me?

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Speaker 1: And the entertainment industry awards bad behavior, so no one's

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Speaker 1: telling you it's working for You're on television, you're being opinionated.

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Speaker 1: and why would you stop at that time? You know,

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Speaker 1: I was doing my show, I was writing my books,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to deal with that. I was like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not in this whole manifestation gratitude yoga retreat, Kale

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Speaker 1: remember this Malcolm Gladwell podcast. I listened to that talking

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Speaker 1: about like how people remember themselves in different places than

425
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Speaker 1: they actually were on traumatic occasions. But it's the same

426
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: with comedy because I'm always adding a line here or

427
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: there that's not necessarily true, but you know, makes it

428
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: even funnier, or makes it sharper, or makes or is

429
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: a callback. So but I would say, I mean, listen,

430
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: I just came home from a vacation in Maine. That

431
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: is going to be the first chapter of my next book,

432
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: and it all comes from real experiences. Like I literally

433
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: went on this vacation. I was like, well, after I left,

434
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: I go, well, here we go. This is chapter one.

435
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 1: I've got a whole new book in me, and my

436
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: sister is like, yeah, yeah, you do, because they come

437
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 1: from real experiences. But of course there's there's there are

438
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: embellishments and little you know, little extra comedic flair bits

439
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: for comedic flair. It's amazing. And your callbacks are hysterical.

440
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean hysterical. I mean just your referencing. Kal She's

441
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: she's talking about a salesperson comparing them to a koala

442
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: because they're just moving so cuddly and slowly, and I'm

443
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: like fucking crying because it's just the references are just

444
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: good and random. All right, So you've always loved the

445
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: cannabis space. I'm getting into the acnnabis space. But I

446
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: like where you're coming from with it, because you're coming

447
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: from a place of health and anti opioids and anti

448
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: you know, ambient and and what's the other klonopin And

449
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: you're saying like there are issues that people have with

450
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: sleeping and anxiety, et cetera, and you're talking about cannabis,

451
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: and I like, I like the way you're doing or

452
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: like the message. Well, I like listen, I really like

453
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals as well. I'm like, I consider myself to be

454
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: a pharmacological into it, and a lot of people depend

455
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: on me for this knowledge because I can seriously look

456
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: at someone's body and talk to them for five minutes

457
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, you're not gonna be able to

458
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: handle an edible like a strong one. You're gonna need

459
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: something lighter, or you're gonna just need CBD, or you're

460
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna survive. You know, like you're gonna have the personality

461
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: that's gonna do great on ayahuasca. You're the type of

462
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: personality who should never do ayahuasca. I don't even know

463
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: what that is. What's ayahuasca? Hold on, you haven't even

464
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: seen me. You're just talking to me, and you could

465
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Speaker 1: tell that I shouldn't do ayahuasca. No, you don't. You

466
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't do iowascar you. It would be too it would

467
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: be too intense for you because you're already at a

468
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: very high vibration. So no cancel, So right, No iolas

469
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: it's like a constant cocaine or something. It's like special

470
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: K and one of those like ones. Ago. No, No,

471
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's psychedelic. No, no, no time, no

472
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: thank you. I just want you to know that I

473
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: took my shirt off and put it back on during

474
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: this podcast because I was so hot. Some air you

475
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: run always always. That's why I hate room temperature. Fucking

476
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: water too. Okay, sorry, I keep going with your drugs.

477
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 1: So the drugs, with the with the edibles. I just

478
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: like once I was able to pivot from first of all,

479
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: from alcohol to two pharmaceuticals. I still drink, I just

480
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: my drinking was cut in a half a minute. I

481
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: discovered edibles because now we're in a situation where you

482
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: take two and a half milligrams, you micro dose. It's

483
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: like it's just a little sans. It's not. It's not

484
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: a doughnut. It's a way to make everybody a little

485
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: bit less annoying. Yes, and you are so right by

486
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: the way, I have my entire life, I've had chronic constipation,

487
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean my whole life. So your thing about magnesium

488
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: taking magnesium, no one ever told us this, Like milk

489
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: of magnesia is not just taking magnesias. Everyone's got all

490
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: these like mirror ax and citr cell and fiber and magnesium.

491
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: It is amazing for constipation. If you take it. Regularly,

492
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: as you said, Yeah, I had no idea, Like I

493
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: just thought all girls didn't go to the bathroom for like,

494
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: you know that we went to the bathroom like twice

495
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: a week. You know. I didn't know that that I

496
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: had a problem. And then I was just like, this

497
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: can't be. You know when you hear people my best

498
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: friend Mary's like, I had no problem going to the bathroom, like, well,

499
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Speaker 1: that's great, you're annoying exactly, You're an anomaly and most

500
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: women do. But instead she instead of sympathizing with my play,

501
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: all she does is bragged about how easy it is

502
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Speaker 1: for her and magnesium most seven. I take three of

503
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: those every single night. Absolutely it helps me. Oh my god. Yeah,

504
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: And now I'm regular keep saying this OH seven. In

505
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: my cabinet. There's one that's called like Malatte or something

506
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: m A L A T E. And I gotta say

507
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: you the bottle because that's the one I took that.

508
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try the OH seven now. But I

509
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: didn't know by the way, I think any magnesium will

510
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: work this way. But you have a very specific OH seven.

511
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: It's like a James Bond formula. Yeah, it's a James

512
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: bond formula, and you start out with I'm not And

513
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: this isn't a paid endorsement or anything. This is a

514
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: true customer review. If you start out with four for

515
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: people who are listening, if you take those, you start

516
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: out with four, and then once you go to the

517
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: bathroom one morning, from then on you would go and

518
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: you reduced to three per day. Broke the sea, and

519
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: then yes, and then you're and then you're It's an

520
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: easy stream. Even if I miss a day. Now, I've

521
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: been doing it for like two years, and I used

522
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: to not be good about taking my supplements until I

523
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: started getting older, and I'm like, oh, this is desperation. Um,

524
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: I have to take stuff. But if you if you now,

525
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: even if I don't take it a night, like if

526
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: I miss a night, I'm still regular the next morning.

527
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: So I'm on a real system. And I would encourage

528
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: everybody who has trouble going to the bathroom to get

529
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: on my system. And I feel like we should record

530
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: this to be on a like an audio dating app

531
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: for our profile. So I think this is very sexy. Um,

532
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: this is one of the first things I bring up. Yeah,

533
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: same same. I I ordered spinach and just say sautet

534
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: oily vegetables and magnesium O seven will be a great

535
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: morning tomorrow. So so wait we just you just said

536
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: something about that you said about the magnesium is gonna

537
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: remind me something. Oh, I'm gonna send you my supplements

538
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: because I have supplements not for this thing, but send

539
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: them for collagen for intimacy that really actually work for intimacy, hair, skin,

540
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 1: and nails. I'm gonna send you. Yeah, I know. Um,

541
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: all right, So how important is sex really to you?

542
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: Because I just feel like you make me feel like

543
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm not masturbating enough or like having sex with people

544
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: in foreign countries enough, and I just want to understand

545
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: how important great sex is to you. I don't have Listen,

546
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of sex either. I'm trying

547
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: to get something going, like I need to start having

548
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: sex before it becomes a year or that I haven't

549
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: had it, you know what I mean. I like, I

550
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: think I had sex last March, right before COVID struck.

551
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: So like I'm trying to get something going. So yeah,

552
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm on Riya. I sometimes have hookups on Riya. That's

553
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: been my best way to like get sex without you know,

554
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: being going on dates. So you're a very sexual being

555
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: because you can. I'm that loser that needs to like

556
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: connect with someone and would not won't have sex because

557
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: of my childhood. I've seen some pretty bad like a

558
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: sex following abuse, so I have weird issues of sex.

559
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: But if I don't trust someone or if I connect

560
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: with them, like I, I would like to sort of

561
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: have goals of just like having sex and be like

562
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: it's cool, like you're like a sex person that I like,

563
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: and you're my friend, and like I would love to

564
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: maybe have a friend with benefits. I've just never been

565
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: able to do that. And you sound like a professional

566
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: at that, like you can really detach emotionally. Uh No, No,

567
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: I have problems with you know, the superficial ship like

568
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: belts and shoes, like if I see a belt, even

569
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: if I mean, this guy came over here the other

570
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: night and I was like, Okay, this is good. He

571
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: seems reasonable. I could have sex with him. We talked

572
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. I do need to

573
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: have a connection. I just can't just have sex with anybody.

574
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that part. I don't maybe need

575
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: it as much of a connection as you do, but

576
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: I definitely need to be like, they can't be stupid,

577
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, hold on to just have

578
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: sex with them. I can't be stupid if I were

579
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: able to just have sex and mute who cares. Well.

580
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: This guy said that he doesn't think masks work, So

581
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: that is a book. That's a boater killer. I agree,

582
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: that's a I can't fox. I can't sux somebody who

583
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: says masks don't work. That's I can't suck that. I

584
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: get it. But you can't have sex if somebody has

585
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: a bad belt or shoes. Yeah, that's a problem for me.

586
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm just having sex with them. Like, you're not gonna

587
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna is this because you're interviewing a regular won't

588
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: even get that far. It won't get that far if

589
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: they're wearing an airma's belt. I'm not Yeah, no, I'm

590
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: not gonna. No, it's not happening. I can't forget that

591
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: you wore that. Wait, someone came to your house at

592
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: an H belt on the actual like the h It

593
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: wasn't at my house. It was a date that I

594
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: went on. Like a couple of years ago, I met

595
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: this guy at a hotel bar and he walked in

596
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: with so much cologne and an h belt and I

597
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: had one cocktail. He's like, should we order some food.

598
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not going to be necessary. And I

599
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: lacked because I can't have sex with somebody like that.

600
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: I just am turned off and then I can't turn

601
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: back on. Wow. No, that that No, that that I get,

602
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: but I get. I'm dying to know what the rest

603
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: of the alph it was. And it sounds like he

604
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: was on the show's Shaws of Sunset because they all

605
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: have all Yeah, it sounds like it, and maybe he was.

606
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: And I hadn't seen that show, so I didn't know

607
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: better because they all have like big ages and cardier. Wow.

608
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think you're great. I just think

609
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: you're fun and honest, and I'm happy that you're in

610
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: the best place. And you know what, you came from

611
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: a place of yes, you've used the pandemic. You know

612
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: that people are like starving and homeless and unwell. But

613
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: and it's a stressful year. But you've used the pandemic

614
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: from a place of yes, saying let me get my

615
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: my mental health and my physical health together. And I

616
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: think that's admirable because I've been saying to people self care.

617
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: It sounds cheesy and callish like you were saying, but

618
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: the truth is, it's the time I'm to just say

619
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: there are things I can't control, but let me focus

620
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: on what I can control, you know, let me try

621
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: to just drink water if I could, which I won't,

622
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: or meditate or whatever your version is. And I like

623
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: that you've just embraced that and taken that, taken that on.

624
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for all of that. Thank you.

625
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: It was really fun to talk to you and do

626
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: your podcast, and I hope to talk to you again

627
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: sometime soon. And every next time in York, will go

628
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: for a drink and not drink water together. I would

629
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: love to go for a drink and take an edible

630
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: and not drink water together. The show continues to just

631
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: please me and surprise me, and I just never know

632
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: what I'm walking into with a conversation. I have had

633
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: the experience that everyone has come to play and just

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Speaker 1: conversation because it was a mix of humor and dating

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Speaker 1: and business and drive. I really liked her and we

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Speaker 1: have a lot in common and Chelsea's HBO Max special

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Speaker 1: is out now and it is so hilarious. It is

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Speaker 1: so unique and authentically her. But I mean, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: was crying laughing, So please go check it out. The

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Speaker 1: takeaway here is you'll keep making the same mistake until

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Speaker 1: you'll learn the lesson that could be in relationships, that

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Speaker 1: could be in business. You know, at some point we

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Speaker 1: all have to grow up. At some point we have

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Speaker 1: to sort of take care of ourselves and be aware

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Speaker 1: and the same thing doesn't work over and over. And

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Speaker 1: I think that that would be what Chelsea has really

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Speaker 1: really learned and taught me, and that she wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a leader, and she took a very circuitous route

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Speaker 1: to getting there. She's a leader through communicating, through humor,

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Speaker 1: through her own message. But there are many different ways

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Speaker 1: to lead or shine, or communicate or teach or you know,

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Speaker 1: be inspired, And so I think that's really interesting. And

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Speaker 1: you know, she had her drive early on, or at

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Speaker 1: least she was listening to what she wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: and she just made that happen. So you know, we

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Speaker 1: can learn and we can we can help our kids

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Speaker 1: with these situations. So thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: Please continue to rate, review and subscribe. It really helps.

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Speaker 1: It's making a difference to me, and it's keeping us

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Speaker 1: going and I really appreciate it, so thank you so much.

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