1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance since since since don't worry, 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: your speakers have not broken and I am not crazy 7 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: just yet. That noise you here is the beginnings of 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: a party. What I like to deem an elk party. 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: It's a calling sequence that I've used over the years 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: with a lot of success. It's one that creates this 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: illusion of building a harem of cows with a lot 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: of excitement. Possibly a hot cow and a bull is 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: running stirred him up. What this does is it draws 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: attention from another group of elk to bring satellite bulls 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: to your location. But not only that, it's a great 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: technique and tactic to use to draw that herdable away 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: from the cow's he's with to come investigate what's going 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: on where you're at. In my opinion, it's one of 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: my most deadly tactics when it comes to calling elk 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: during the peak rut. But before I share those tactics, 21 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: let's go into a story where this worked really well 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: in southwestern Montana. I really like to tell guiding stories 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: on this podcast. I think one reason because I have 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: an unlimited supply of good stories just because of all 25 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: the times I've been out guiding and a lot of 26 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: interactions with elk that you might not get while you're 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: just hunting for yourself. But another reason, especially when it 28 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: comes to talking about elk calling, is because as the guide, 29 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I really get to interact with the elk and be 30 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: a caller in the way that I think is the 31 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: most appropriate to drawing a bull in, and that generally 32 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: means setting the hunter up, moving back, and doing my 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: call sequence out of the way where I can try 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: to draw that bull closer in to the hunter or 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: the shooter. Now, on this particular day, we woke up 36 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: and I told my client. I looked him straight in 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: the face and I said, today you're shooting an elk. 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: He's like, why is that? I said, because my brother 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Jason is done with his hunter and we are both 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: going to take you out. So what that means is 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: I get to do the calling. I get to drop 42 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: back and do the calling, and my brother Jason gets 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: to be with a guy that's drawing back and shooting, 44 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and so many times I'll be drawn back calling, but 45 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to direct the person when to move whatever. 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: And me and my brother have just hunted so much 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: together and hunted a lot in general for elk. I mean, 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: he's he's guided with me for years as well, and 49 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: so we both know how to move and how to call, 50 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: and when to get into position and where to go, 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: and we can read how the elks react thing and 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: just that kind of little bit of knowledge, it just 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: makes you so much more successful. So if I'm calling 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: and he's the shooter, or vice versa, I'm the shooter 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: and he's calling, I mean, generally we'll go out and 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: we can get in a bull or maybe it's the 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: one we're gonna pass or whatever, but we understand when 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: to move, and it just makes it so much easier, 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: so much more successful. So this guy just like struck 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: out on this one because you know, I was gonna 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: be calling. My brother was gonna help him get into 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: position and tell him when to draw. Okay, let's move, 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: and then throw out a cow call and stop him. 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: And you also, I had a video camera and figure 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: it out. Might as well film this too. So we 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: went out that morning. It was like a really good 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: morning peak rut pre daylight. We get a bunch of 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: elk fired up. It's just like a big group down below, 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: and there's this nice bowl in the area that I've 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: been watching. I was hoping, okay, man, this might be 71 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: that elk that we've been looking at, his big six 72 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: by seven. And this is just a general elk area. 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Fairly low success rate at the time, so any bowl 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: is a good bull but and if you can get 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a decent one, that's awesome too. So we get in 76 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: there and the elk is just firing off and we 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: get into position, and it's one of those scenarios where 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: there's enough bulls in the group that they're kind of 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: on the move, like the horrid bull. It has nothing 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: to do with what we're doing. This is just the 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: elk doing their things. So the elk are kind of 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: pushing each other around and you can tell that there's 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: maybe three or four bulls in the group, and it's 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: just like getting chaotic with bugling, and we're throwing in 85 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: our bugles and we get into position and we've got 86 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: the herdable screaming right behind these small pines, and I 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: moved back and start raking a tree. Jason takes him 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: up to get into position, and the bull just never 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: breaks the plane of those pines to where we can 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: get a shot. At that point, the cows start moving 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: down past us, and we're just surrounded by elk. I mean, 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: we've got cows coming in. So that bull goes down 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: and I can hear there's just like this one hot 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: cow and there must be something crazy going on. So 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of myself, man, how are we going to pull? 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Almost got that bull to commit, but there's just so 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: much chaos in here. So then I started thinking, why 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: don't we just create our own chaos. Why don't we 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: create a party that sounds like what's going on down 100 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: there up here and see if that might in this 101 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: confusion cause this other bull to come in and if 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, definitely one of these satellite bowls will 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: come check us out. But we did get a glimpse 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: of the herd bull, and I'm thinking, man, we really 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: really want to get this bull, so let's just try this. 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: So we get in and that herd bulls below us, 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: and we're bugling, and every time we bugle. He bugles back, 108 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: but he's at that point now where he's just not 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: going to come in. So I tell Jason, why don't 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you guys get set up above this little goalie in 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: there down below us. I'm gonna draw back and I'm 112 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: just gonna create this party. So I draw back, and 113 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: I just started throwing out cow calls, and then I'm 114 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: starting to do throw out some estrus wine calls. And 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: then I've got this scenario where I'm playing as two 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: bulls and I'm far enough back where if the elk 117 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: comes to me or whatever, you would have to draw 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: past them before it gets to me. So I'm moving 119 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: around a lot. I'm running from one position to another, 120 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: calling over here, calling over there, calling in different directions, 121 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: throwing out a lot of different cow calls, all bugle 122 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: in this one spot. And then I run over literally 123 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: sprinting and breaking branches and bugling over here. I've got 124 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: the bugle too, and I'm sprinting and bugling at the 125 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: same time and doing the same thing with cow estras. Call. 126 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: Just it's like that sound when a bulls chasing a 127 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: cow down the mountain and she's in heat. But it's 128 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: like a younger bulls hot on her tail, and I'm 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: trying to entice this herd bull away from real cows, thinking, 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: oh man, those satellite bulls just picked up a hot 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: cow and I better go investigate. So I'm doing that. 132 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm just going off on the calls, running around, breaking stuff, 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: smashing trees, just literally having the best time you can 134 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: have on the mountain. I mean that to me is 135 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: just like the epitome of September. And sure enough, my 136 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: brother he could hear that bull bugling, and then it 137 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: was that running while doing an extrous cow call, and 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: then just running and screaming and bugling, and that was 139 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: just enough to make that herdable come check us out. 140 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: He starts walking up is just perfect, like walked right 141 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: into twenty yards. My brother Jason gives him up. Bull 142 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: stops broadside, thump, bull down, nice big six by seven, 143 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: just on a public land, general area, and we were 144 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: pretty much stoked. There was just the whole fired up 145 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: scenario was we went from calling elk to essentially becoming 146 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: this massive herd of elk. And even when I was 147 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: throwing out those cow calls, I had Jason throwing cow 148 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: calls as well. And what we really did, is we 149 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: just created this what I like to call Elk party. 150 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Since then, most of the herd bulls that I've called 151 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: in have been called in using that same tactic, where 152 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: at create a party and draw that bull just out 153 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: of curiosity to our location. And of course it works 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: really well for getting those other satellite bulls interested as well. 155 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: If you watch any movie that has a good party, 156 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: there's always a few things that are universal, and we're 157 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna take those few things that are universal to any 158 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: party and we're gonna convert it into calling elk. So 159 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: my three universal party moves chicks, loud music, breaking stuff. 160 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: How often do you see a movie where there's a 161 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: party and something isn't just getting completely thrashed. So we're 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna go through the setup for creating a massive Elk 163 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: party and then the times that it works the best, 164 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: as well as the calls to use and when to 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: use them. The first set up creating the chicks. What 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: we're doing is we're trying to make the think that 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: we've got a harem of cows, or we are a 168 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: harem of cows. Now, if you're in the peak rut 169 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: and you've got a hot cow, really what happens is 170 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: this scene of pandemonium breaks out where the herd bull 171 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: is trying to keep tabs on that cow, but the 172 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: other satellite bulls in the area start trying to run 173 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: cows off for themselves. There's this like rift of confusion, 174 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: and you can capitalize on that by essentially taking what 175 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: those elk are doing naturally and creating it somewhere else 176 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: in very close proximity that's gonna draw the elk to 177 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: your location. I've done this technique so many times when 178 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: I've encountered a scenario very similar to this and maybe 179 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: called in three to seven bulls in a single morning. 180 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Many times it's I end up passing up even some 181 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: good bulls just trying to get that herdable to my location. 182 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll end up coming in other times I kick 183 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: myself for not shooting one of the other bulls that 184 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: comes in. A couple of years ago, I did the 185 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: same thing and ended up passing on a big six 186 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: by six and shooting a little raghorn bull after I 187 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: knew I wasn't gonna get the herd bull. Every scenario 188 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: is a little bit different, However, this is a really 189 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: good calling tactic when the time is right for it, 190 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: and this generally pertains to peak rut when there's a 191 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: high likelihood that a cow is going to go into 192 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: estrus and you've found a herd of elk that might 193 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: have multiple bulls that are trying to steal cows away 194 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: from the herd bull So the first step in this 195 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: tactic is creating an illusion that there's a large group 196 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: of cows where you're at, and that involves throwing out 197 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: multiple cow calls. So what I'm gonna do is I'm 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna start by making cow calls in multiple directions and 199 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: kind of like this call and response where it's like 200 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: the herd of cows kind of got separated somehow and 201 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing this call and response thing. So I've got 202 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: to call here, and I'll just kind of demonstrate it 203 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: just like a few mew me just all over in 204 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: different directions. Yea, yeah, yeah, and then we'll do at 205 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the end there, I throw in a few of these long, 206 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: drawing out sounds. They can be made with pretty much 207 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: any out call, but open reads work really well for this. 208 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: And then just like your standard diaphragm call, I got 209 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: an open read right here, I'll do it to might 210 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: blow the speakers out, but we'll give it a try. 211 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: So it's just this like high low high, like more 212 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: long drawn out. Imagine if a cow ward a bugle. 213 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: That's kind of the way that I see this estrus 214 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: wine going. So it's it's the sound that a cow 215 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: makes when she gets into heat. M I'll start building 216 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: that up with those cow sounds, and then I'll grab 217 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: my bugle too, and I'll throw in some bugles in 218 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: there as well. Now it could be any kind of bugle. Really, 219 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: it could be more younger bull bugle, or it could 220 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: just be like an also another really good dominant bugle, 221 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: kind of like we talked about last week that more 222 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: display called throwing some of those out there, or even 223 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: just maybe a more immature bowl that's like, hey, there's 224 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: some satellite bowls, some raghorns getting up in some business 225 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: that they probably shouldn't be in. So I'll throw out 226 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the cow calls and then I'll mix in some bugles 227 00:12:39,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: with that. Yeh. The key here is to just create 228 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: this illusion of multiple cows. Now, if you've got two people, 229 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe a shooter and a caller, having them throw out 230 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: cow calls as well, what you'll start to notice is 231 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: you should be close enough to the herd where that 232 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: herd's actually starting to talk back and forth to you 233 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: as well, and create confusion amongst the cows. You want 234 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: to make every elk think that the real party is 235 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: happening right where you're at now. The second ingredient to 236 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: creating a good elk party is lots of noise. I've 237 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: heard so many things of oh, don't overcall, you bogle 238 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: too much, you do this too much. I believe that 239 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: when you're creating this elk party, there's no such thing 240 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: as too much noise. And I've only learned that because 241 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: over the years I've been in real scenarios where elk 242 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: are doing this and they're just going ape ship. And 243 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to create. We're creating this illusion 244 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: that something really really exciting is going on, and we're 245 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna make lots of noise while we do it. So 246 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: that means throwing out an excessive amount of bugles where 247 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: you're acting as two bulls or more, maybe doing more 248 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and easier like smaller bowl bugle and then just a 249 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: bull that's doing a display call. I think that adding 250 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: in some really aggressive bugling into this mix or maybe 251 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: you've got one bowl that you're bugling away from the 252 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: elk and then another bowl that you're bugling toward the 253 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: elk that you're trying to call in, and creating this 254 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: scenario where it's like there's two bowls over here fighting 255 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: over something. Mixing that in with a frenzy of the 256 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: cow calls is a really good way to just build 257 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: this up. You'll really know if the elk are responding 258 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: to it, if the other bulls around are lighting off. 259 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: You'll also know that if you're trying to call in 260 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: that herd bull, he's going to be the one that 261 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: is probably making all the other noise, whereas the other 262 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: bowls around are now going to switch into this mode 263 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: of hearing you bugle really dominant and displaying towards that 264 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: herd bull that's also displaying, and maybe one other bull 265 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: sounding off, and what the other satellite bulls are gonna 266 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: do is they're just gonna kind of maybe quiet down 267 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: and investigate. This is where when you're set up, you 268 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: got to make sure you're you're watching, because it's really 269 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: likely that you're gonna have another elk come into your setup. 270 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: A lot of times I get spikes coming in. But 271 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I've had some really good sized bowls, even some bigger 272 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: than what we term the herd bull come into this 273 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: setup quiet just to investigate and see, like what the 274 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: heck is going on, because the other bowl might actually 275 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: be starting to take his cows away from where you're at. 276 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: So I like to make a lot of noise, and 277 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: then I like to keep that noise going as I'm 278 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: following that herd bulls bugle. So I want to stay 279 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: within a certain amount of distance and just keep that 280 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: volume up and keep that elk in earshot where it 281 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: sounds like, okay, I'm within a certain distance of the herd, 282 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and the other elk around are gonna be coming in 283 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: check king out my location. But it really involves in 284 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: some ways overcalling, because you're just building up this hype. 285 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: You're building up a real scenario that happens, and you'll 286 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: start to see that this scenario, if it hasn't already 287 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: started to happen where you're at. With the elk that 288 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: you're calling at, you can kind of build up a 289 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: frenzy amongst some elk that might be near you along 290 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: with the making noise. I mentioned this in the story, 291 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: but I just really want to explain how I do 292 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: it is there's a little bit of running around when 293 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: it comes to creating this elk party. It's very hard 294 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: to successfully create this elk party as well when you're 295 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: just by yourself trying to call a bull and solo. 296 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: That's why I actually really like this tactic when I'm 297 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: hunting with someone else, but if you're both hunting and 298 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: you've got a bow. There's so many times where I've 299 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: been the caller and it's like, oh, crap, here comes 300 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: a nice bowl. I'm just gonna hold still for a second, 301 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: let him saunter by but he's within bow range, and 302 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: then continue to keep calling. One of the tactics that 303 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: I think works really well in this particular are set 304 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: up is this tactic where it's like a bull is 305 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: fired up and he's chasing a hot cow, and you 306 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: really get the correct sound. You you literally have to 307 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: run around, and that's like a cow leaving this extrus 308 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: wine as she's running, and then doing some bugles while 309 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: you're running as well. The bull can hear that that 310 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: noise traveling down the mountain as you're bugling, and that 311 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: really kind of gets him fired up, and that gets 312 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: that herd bull thinking, oh, another dominant bull is on 313 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: a cow and I need to go investigate that. I 314 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: need to forget what I'm doing right now, so long 315 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: as he's not on his own hot cow, and then 316 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: come investigate what's going on. If that herd bull does 317 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: have a hot cow with him, per chance, while this 318 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: is going on, you're probably more likely to be calling 319 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: in satellite bulls and other bulls at this particular time. 320 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: But it's a really good tactic to get those other 321 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: bulls to kind of think, oh, what's going on over here? 322 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: This is where the noise is at. This is where 323 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: the party's at. You want to try to keep it 324 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: louder and more interesting than the real elk that are 325 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: just nearby. M Now, just like any good movie party, 326 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: stuff is always getting broken, and it's the same way 327 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: when you create this illusion of an elk party. One 328 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: of the things that I noticed new elk callers do 329 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: wrong is they're afraid to make natural sounds. So you 330 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: think of it like this. You sneak into a herd 331 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: of elk and you're throwing out twenty cow calls and 332 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: aggressive bugles, and yet you're standing in one position and 333 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: it's dead quiet all the other time. If you've ever 334 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: been into a herd of actual elk that are running 335 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: and making those noises, it sounds like you trains just 336 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: went off the tracks, going off the rails through a 337 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: bunch of deadfall, and so you really have to kind 338 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: of create those sounds. Don't be afraid to break branches, 339 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: to break a tree, to throw out other sounds that 340 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: que those elk into thinking, oh man, there is definitely 341 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: a herd of large undulance running around having a good 342 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: time over there. So what that might mean for me 343 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: is I'll pick a spot that's kind of thicker and 344 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: where I've got sticks and other things that i can 345 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: break this sound like elk walking through. Maybe when I'm running, 346 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: i might pick a spot that's gonna sound like breaking 347 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: branches and other things. If you've actually been in a 348 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: herd of elk, that's what it sounds like, and so 349 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: recreating that is really really important to kind of rounding 350 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: out this illusion. There's been times where I've noticed that 351 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: a bowl will hang up and I'm just just calling 352 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: back and forth, but I'm sounding like this massive party, 353 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: and then I realized, oh, yeah, well, there's a lot 354 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: of stuff around here, and he's not hearing any of 355 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: these other sounds. So maybe I'll make X in going 356 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: over to a tree and just raking a tree. Um 357 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: that raking noise. Not only is it a good display 358 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: of dominance and can infurate other bulls, it has this 359 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: audio queue to them that is more than just the 360 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: calling that sounds like okay, there's something going on over there, 361 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: especially if you start to hear another bull rake back. 362 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: Like the raking, the breaking the sticks, the moving around 363 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: can be really important into adding realism to creating this 364 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: elk party. Now, as an additional bonus to helping this 365 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: tactic work, you really have to keep this tactic mobile. 366 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: So there's a specific scenario where it works really well, 367 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: and that's when you find a really fired up bull 368 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: and you get into a group of elk that are 369 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: probably going to start talking. And one of the main 370 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: reasons that elk start talking is when they're moving. They're 371 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: trying to stay together as a unit. As these bulls 372 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: are coming around and just messing up their groove. They're 373 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: going in there, they're breaking up the party, trying to 374 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: steal some cows away and do their thing, and you'll 375 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: start hearing elk talking back and forth. You can actually 376 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: start building that elk cow elk chatter yourself by using 377 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: the cow call and calling to the cows. Once you 378 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: do that, it's very likely that the herd bull or 379 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: maybe some of the other bulls will actually start doing 380 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: what you're kind of making an illusion of creating, where 381 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna start driving other cows away and splitting things 382 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: up in that herd will keep moving. One thing I 383 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: like to do is I like to set up and 384 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: get set up for a while. But if I start 385 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: to hear that main bull that's bugling towards me move off, 386 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep dogging him. Last year I talked about 387 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: dogging bulls, So we're gonna gonna keep going after him 388 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: and keep setting up that cow party at a distance 389 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: where I'm sure I won't be seen or scare him away, 390 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: but also not so far away that the rest of 391 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: the elk are just going to continue with those live 392 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: elk they're chasing. Now, if you've lost the herd or 393 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: whatever wherever that main action was going, it might not 394 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: be a bad idea to just hunker down for a 395 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: little bit and like if you all of a sudden, 396 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: the other elks, stop shut up, everything quiets down, keep 397 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: the party going for a little bit longer where you are. 398 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: You probably won't draw a herd bull in that way, 399 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: but it's very likely that you'll draw one of the 400 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: other satellite bowls that might be late to the party, 401 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: the old late comer to the party, the one that 402 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: was across the canyon and hero all this crap going on, 403 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: and now he's going to show up. So just because 404 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: everything quiets down or maybe you've lost the herd, doesn't 405 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: necessarily mean that this tactic won't still work. But you're 406 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: gonna be looking for an elk that's probably gonna sneak 407 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: in silently, probably gonna be a less dominant bull, which 408 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: in many instances is all I'm really looking for anyway. 409 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: So that's a great tactic to actually just getting a 410 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: bull anyway. So those are some things to think about 411 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: remember when you are creating this party. Another thing that 412 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: I will throw in there every once in a while 413 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: is just some my candy. I'll use a Montana decoy 414 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: and use that as some kind of visual aid or 415 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: visual cue that kind of distracts them from the crazy 416 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: stuff that me is the caller is doing, and focuses 417 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: their attention somewhere else. This technique really works best in 418 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: thick timber, so it's kind of situational. But when you 419 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: find the right situation, it works really good. So you're 420 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: looking for more peak rut as opposed to pre rut, 421 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit this will work. Creating a 422 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: like a large group of cows and making a lot 423 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: of noise kind of works all the time. But primarily 424 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: this tactic is a percent money when it's peak rut, 425 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: when cows are starting to jump into that extrus cycle, 426 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and then you you hone in on a group where 427 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: that might be likely. And by doing those things and 428 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: by creating that party, I would say that you're probably 429 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: most definitely gonna call it bull in in that scenario. 430 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying a little of this elk action. 431 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: Get y'all fired up for September. I mentioned towards the 432 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: end they're adding a decoy for realism. So next week, 433 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: why don't we just talk about a little bit of 434 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: elk decoying. I think that that's one thing that I've 435 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: I've found over the years, I've had a lot of 436 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: success with you see a lot more guys with these decoys. 437 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of options out there right now, but 438 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: there's certain ways. I mean, I've used them for a 439 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: long time, and sometimes they work good and sometimes they 440 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: just are more pain than anything. But I'm gonna give 441 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: you a couple of setups where I've I've used them 442 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of success, and then we'll go into 443 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: a little more of a recap on just some of 444 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: the best Elk tips, pulling together some stuff from last 445 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: year and some stuff from this year, and really just 446 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: build out kind of a final scene before the Elk 447 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: season kicks off. So I hope you enjoy it. Just 448 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: as a reminder, shoot me some questions. I want to 449 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: do another Q and A here pretty quick, So I 450 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: like to get those ahead of time because generally when 451 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: that Q and A is, that next Q and A 452 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: is gonna come out, you know where I'm gonna be. 453 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm hopefully gonna be just screaming at a bull and 454 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: a bull screaming back in the Elk woods for sure. 455 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping. Maybe, I don't know, I'm gonna be hunting 456 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: with a friend. I don't know what I'm gonna hunt with. 457 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: I might actually just hunt with my longbow. I think 458 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring his recurve. I might bring my long 459 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: bow in my recurve. Maybe I'll just bring my regular bow. 460 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm excited. I'm just getting fired up. 461 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of good spots I'm gonna check out. 462 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: Did quite a bit of preseason scouting this year because 463 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: some of my trips were canceled or whatever, so I 464 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: had a little bit of time. But I think all 465 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: this stuff is just going to be key to understanding 466 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: elk and get you more successful. And maybe you don't 467 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: have an elk count planned this year, but learning these 468 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: tactics now is the key if you're if you're a 469 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: guy that's listening. I get a lot of messages from 470 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: people like, hey, I haven't gone all my first Western 471 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: big game hunt yet, but just listening to these things 472 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: and then getting some calls and practicing and just understanding 473 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: how to use them, because I think the stuff that 474 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, I don't know. At least when I 475 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: got started, there wasn't this kind of information out there, 476 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: and I really felt like all the calling elk stuff 477 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: just never really all the information never really worked for me, 478 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: So I had to develop my own ways of doing things, 479 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: and over the years doing that, I found a lot 480 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: of success. And there's a lot of things that I've 481 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: learned about elk and elk behavior. And I know I 482 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: said it last week, but really understanding elk behavior blends 483 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: itself a lot more to calling in a bowl than 484 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: how good your bugle is. So if you're new to it, 485 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, don't don't get scourged. If you aren't the 486 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: best bugle on the planet, you know you'll always be 487 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: number two to the elk. And I've heard elk make 488 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: some real shitty bugles too, where you're like, that's definitely 489 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: a dude. It ends up being like a really nice bowl. 490 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: But outside of that, you know, just think of these things, 491 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: get some practice in, and I will see you all 492 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: next week right here on cutting the distance. So until then, 493 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: party on guard.