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Speaker 1: That I am big steal shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was my eight invitation right this Since he

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Speaker 4: there Sor and Baker once again sitting in with us.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, sure, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So what's going on, fellas?

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Speaker 3: Shiit? What's the what's cracking? Shit? That ain't good?

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Speaker 6: We ain't doing nothing, you know what I'm saying, same

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Speaker 6: on Wednesday night, seeing what the HAP says?

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Speaker 3: What's cracking? What's the word?

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Speaker 4: I see you over there, man, getting you some good

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Speaker 4: R and R and man, some good relaxation. You know

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Speaker 4: a lot of people at be complimenting you on the

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Speaker 6: Get in man, people sending me they shit, Man, I

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Speaker 3: So you see shit.

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Speaker 6: That I got on, Man, just go to the whatever

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Speaker 6: it say, Man, just go to their Instagram page.

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Speaker 3: You know I need money. I try to.

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Speaker 6: Support you know, independent or you know, businesses, whatever it

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Speaker 6: is man, black, you know, white, whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know you independent and you into the culture of

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Speaker 3: So that's what it do. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of.

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Speaker 4: People was asking about the Swiss that you had on

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Speaker 3: Own personal shit.

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Speaker 6: You know, I dip and dab every now and then

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Speaker 6: I get ideas of shit, so I try to throw

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Speaker 6: I prototype a lot of my shit, you know, I

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Speaker 1: Okay, what can they order this stuff? A?

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Speaker 6: Uh shit, we got to sit up, man, Just go

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Speaker 6: to go to Official eight Clothed and go to my

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Speaker 6: it said if we got their Instagram page up, so

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Speaker 4: the Chronicle clothes designed by m Cate, some of his

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Speaker 1: You know your brothers didn't have to make that drive. Man.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people seem to think that Dion was

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Speaker 6: How can you call me outside the system when I

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Speaker 6: But I guess because, like you said, the path that

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Speaker 5: And plus they probably don't like that he did have

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to call it jealousy either, but let's

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Speaker 6: And some coaches might feel but hurt behind that. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't work my way up the hard word ladder.

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Speaker 3: He was an industry. He was a he was an industry.

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Speaker 3: He was a fucking plant. You get me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure, man, you have a number of coaches

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Speaker 4: He may come back to g then he may usually

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Speaker 4: I think Dion is doing an excellent service for those kids,

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Speaker 1: Kids come from. Because see Dion.

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Speaker 4: As a coach, he's out there setting the high expectation

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Speaker 4: But that's the exception, that's not the rule. Not seeing

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all about your connections man, inside or outside

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Speaker 4: we haven't really seen a black owner.

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Speaker 4: You know, you got people to own pieces of the team,

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Speaker 4: Man. You might have people that may own a small

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Speaker 5: I thought Bob Johnson owned the Charlotte Bobcat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I ain't gonna say everybody is racist because

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Speaker 4: I heard he's notorious for helping black people out, you

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Speaker 4: He really like, he really goes out of his way

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Speaker 4: I just know, man, it's not perfect. Man, it's gotten

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Speaker 4: You had Patrick Mahomes, who's the MV League MVP. That

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Speaker 4: of Fame quarterbacks we would have if they didn't moved

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Speaker 1: Back, be a whole lot we probably have. We probably

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Speaker 4: You know, I was thinking, man, that we fifty years

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Speaker 4: deep in the hip hop. Man, what do you think

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Speaker 4: the most significant change in the business has been. Man,

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Speaker 4: you just coming from the journalistic side. So what is

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Speaker 6: I think it's I've seen artists get a gang of

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Speaker 3: They used to.

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Speaker 6: It's easily to you know, have your financial status. As

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Speaker 6: the significant changes the way a motherfucker can eat today

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Speaker 6: I'm myself for one artist who really questions how motherfuckers

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Speaker 3: It's just amazing to me how.

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Speaker 6: Outside entities can make more money than motherfuckers who are

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Speaker 4: You know, well, I would say, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: then that we you know, we didn't have the information

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Speaker 4: gonna go do a situation where select Or hit some Memphis,

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Speaker 5: I think that's the difference still is that as rap

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Speaker 6: They wouldn't let you do a motherfucking thing, man, just

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Speaker 6: barely get to peer on another motherfucker's record. You get

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Speaker 3: And you see twenty you see twenty grand of the shit.

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Speaker 6: But they asking the motherfucking company for a half a

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Speaker 3: I went to school with this nigga.

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Speaker 6: Get on this.

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Speaker 3: Round now, you can't you? It's just so crazy.

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Speaker 6: How the times have you fall off when it comes

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Speaker 5: And the h point two they would try to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some crazy shit.

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Speaker 4: Well you want to hear you want to hear something

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Speaker 4: real crazy man, you know me and Jeane Deal is

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Speaker 4: that Biggie you know, got murdered, right and he told

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Speaker 4: for his group, you know, to put out Junior Mafia

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Speaker 1: Think about that dog. Now this is his group.

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Speaker 4: He don't put this time and effort in there, writing

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Speaker 5: That's so crazy, that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because I guess motherfuckers felt like back then, like

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Speaker 6: We don't want those projects to blow up more than

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Speaker 6: six seven eight, all the records. We don't benefit from

441
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 6: that because all those proceeds are going to that record label.

442
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: It ain't coming to us.

443
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: But you don't think that would have been just righteous business? Okay,

444
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: I got this artist who is pretty much made my

445
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: label right, he's made me a legitimate label. Wouldn't you

446
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: say the biggie was the man over a bad boy?

447
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 4: Of course, you know he was the man. He was

448
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 4: the cream of the crap. If that's my and that's

449
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 4: just me, if that's my number one artist year. I

450
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: would probably have over rides in places to where, yeah,

451
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: we're gonna make a little bit of money off of

452
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 4: this too, But man, I want to keep this doing

453
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: with happy because eventually he's going to get out of

454
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: that contract. One thing people I think need to get

455
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: out the mindset of thinking that they gound have artists

456
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 4: for perpetuity. I think every artist man is going to

457
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 4: eventually go out. I think the business is designed that

458
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: way to where eventually, as you get older, you want

459
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 4: to start reaping more of the rewards. You can't stay

460
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 4: over here, even if a mother fully decide to give

461
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: you a sixty forty deal, you may decide what, man,

462
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: shit I need about seventy eighty percent of my shit.

463
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: Man ain't gonna telling how long this train go keep riding.

464
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: You know.

465
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: I would want to keep him happy and keep a

466
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: good relationship with him, so I would have let him

467
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: be on as many records as he wanted to be on.

468
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 6: I mean, at one given point in time, you gotta

469
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 6: feel that a motherfucker gonna want to go be his

470
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 6: own boss. You know, at one point in time, especially

471
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 6: if they watching a nigga just like themselves, you get me.

472
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 6: Are you just you the nigga who couldn't rap or

473
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 6: do no beats? You just a nigga who had the pocket?

474
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: You get me?

475
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 6: So, you know, in a desperation time in my life

476
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 6: where I don't feel like I'm going anywhere, I'm trying.

477
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 6: You know, nobody knows about me as an artist. You

478
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 6: know I'm struggling, starving, doing whatever. I'll sign a little

479
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 6: contract to you and motherfuckers. I think people sometimes forget

480
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 6: like you know, I'm in the same situation. You get me,

481
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 6: because without the talent, there's nothing really I can do

482
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 6: with you know what I'm saying. I could be a

483
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 6: record label or a production company or whatever, and I

484
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 6: could start off with. But you know it's gonna be

485
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 6: that one time where you're gonna have to feel like

486
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 6: a motherfucker should get his just due. You get me,

487
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 6: at one point time, I should, you know, because it

488
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 6: just works like that. You fair with a motherfucker, then

489
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 6: you ain't gonna havever have no business problems.

490
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: Just think about it.

491
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 6: If you unfair with a motherfucker, you can have a

492
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 6: nigga signed to ten albums. You get me, But one day,

493
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: eventually that contract is gonna run out. And if you

494
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 6: not and if you're not fair, and I'm not gonna

495
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 6: even necessarily put it on that you could be fair

496
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 6: as a motherfucker, it's still gonna come a time where

497
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 6: motherfucker don't want to go. I'm finna go start my

498
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 6: own shit. You get me, and you just got to

499
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 6: cheer a nigga on. But most of the times that

500
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 6: don't work.

501
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: You get me.

502
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 6: Most of the time you don't get you're gonna get.

503
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 6: You're gonna get hate and restriction and and you know,

504
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 6: and that's where the problems usually come from, because.

505
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: Niggas don't want to learn.

506
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: They just don't want to let you go.

507
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: But there's some sorry song, but that's some power shitt though.

508
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 5: Well that's what I wanted to know. For eight in particular.

509
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: I guess, after Priority, when you started putting out a

510
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 5: lot of independent stuff and doing collaborative albums and all

511
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: these different things, what did you see business wise the

512
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: change that that freedom gave you.

513
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: I was able to control my own shit.

514
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 6: That's why I just kept going independent and doing independent

515
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 6: projects and collaboration albums and releasing my own shit, because

516
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 6: I had the freedom of doing what I wanted to

517
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 6: do when I wanted to do it and I controlled

518
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 6: my own money, you give me, I didn't have to

519
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 6: go through this motherfucking and oh can I do this?

520
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 3: Can I do that?

521
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 6: Or I want to do a project with so and

522
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 6: so and know and then, like I said, most of

523
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 6: the time, when you sign.

524
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: Deals, you get fucked. You know what I'm saying.

525
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: So after seeing so many major label disappointments, I just said,

526
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 6: fuck it. If I'm a disappointed guy, I might as

527
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 6: well do it on my own. Then that way I

528
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 6: know what I can do. You feel me, I know

529
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 6: the limitations of my own sec of my own self,

530
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 6: or I know you know, I'm not finna go press

531
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 6: up fucking a million records. You get me, I'm gonna

532
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 6: go press up five thousand records, ten thousand records, twenty

533
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 6: thousand records. Knowing that a nigga ain't finna hit me like,

534
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 6: oh you got returns and all this other, all the

535
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 6: motherfucking mumbo jumbo that a label could put you through.

536
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: I just got sick of that shit.

537
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 6: And I said, if a motherfucker, if a motherfucker trying

538
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 6: to see me fail, then fuck that shit. I need

539
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 6: to take control of my own motherfucking destiny. You feel me,

540
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 6: so to speak, in that way, I won't have no

541
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 6: more stress about Hey, I know I only sold forty

542
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 6: thousand records because that's all I pressed up. You get me,

543
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 6: there is no more or I know that if a nigga,

544
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 6: if I'm gonna get paid fucking forty thousand, thirty thousand,

545
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 6: a nigga ain't finna try to swindle me out of

546
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 6: half of it to only give me a quarter of it.

547
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: That you know, I'm dealing directly with motherfuckers, And it

548
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 6: was just a blessing, that's all.

549
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the funniest thing I ever heard.

550
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: And I'm and I might have mentioned this before, but

551
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: if I had, or it might have been off air.

552
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: I knew a guy who was an executive man and

553
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: a well known label, like they were well known, especially

554
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: in the early two thousands, remember when everybody started getting deals,

555
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: like all the gangster rappers around the country starting getting

556
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: all these groups getting deals. Right, these people were over

557
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: there signing people of deals to where they knew they

558
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't gonna never put the album up of what they was.

559
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: If I'm a manager and I knew that people had

560
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: to flood with them. I would go to them with

561
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: the artists. They'll say, Okay, we gonna give them a deal.

562
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: We gonna give them a quarter million dollars. But out

563
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: that quarter million, we go keep half of it and

564
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: they get the other. Alf.

565
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: You know, the artist is happy because he got a deal.

566
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: He busted his ass to put a record out that

567
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: ain't gonna never come out because they just chopping up money.

568
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 4: And they did a number of these deals until they

569
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: eventually came and shut down the division. Because what happened

570
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: is when they go to their meetings or whatever, well,

571
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: what's the status of this project or it's just not

572
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: coming together by that time. Man, they don't already spent

573
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: all the money yet. Man, they did this. Man, they

574
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: must have ran up maybe thirteen to fifteen twenty million dollars. Dog,

575
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: all them dudes living in big ass house. Now, dog wow, I'm.

576
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: Bere Just money that'll do it.

577
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: But just think about that dynamic man, thinking about all

578
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: the people. And I'm pretty sure someone you heard about

579
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: those same type of situations too, to where hey, man,

580
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: if you deal with this one guy, he gets you

581
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: a deal, but she would to come up off.

582
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Some of that money.

583
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 5: I heard that many times, but I didn't. I didn't

584
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 5: hear though that the albums would just be shlved. I

585
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 5: heard it was you can get a deal if you

586
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 5: got all the criteria, but you do got a chip,

587
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 5: dude off. But it was never like, but it's never

588
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 5: gonna come out.

589
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: I never heard that.

590
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: Well, a few of these guys did come out with records,

591
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: but they didn't have no push behind him because it

592
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: wasn't no.

593
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 7: Money, right, because they spent it all. They took you

594
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 7: by the damn album come out and don't be no

595
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 7: money man. They doing stuff like they doing promo. You

596
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 7: remember how the cards was real big.

597
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: You know, if you come and do the pos, you

598
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: know the pos and a record store, they come in

599
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: and stay with you, you know, stay for you.

600
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Up.

601
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 4: They had dudes with two sides on the poster, man,

602
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: one artist be on one side and another artist be

603
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: on the other side.

604
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Man, if I was an artist, that would piss me

605
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: the fuck off man.

606
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 6: Well, a lot of that happen to a lot of artists.

607
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: And I don't know if niggas were naive to it,

608
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 6: but shit me, being a veteran to ship by the end,

609
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 6: you knew what it was, you know what I'm saying,

610
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 6: Like you said, a lot of those were snatching grab deals.

611
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: You get me.

612
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 6: You get a budget set up, you know, you might

613
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 6: can pull about sixty seventy thousand off the budget where

614
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 6: the rest of it goes who knows? Like you said,

615
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 6: they get the piecing up and you turn the record

616
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 6: in and looking forward back in and they say, hey,

617
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: money all gone.

618
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: So a lot of niggas was doing that, you feel me.

619
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 6: But back then, if you had a platinum or double

620
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: platinum record, you could easily get that cracking. You know,

621
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 6: it wasn't nothing back then for labels who felt like

622
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 6: you know, because let's face it, hip hop wasn't supposed

623
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 6: to be, you know, as lucrative or popular as it was.

624
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 6: So when you got these cats coming out selling millions

625
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 6: and two millions and three million records, it's easy for

626
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 6: the label to go, yeah, give him five million dollars

627
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 6: so he can go put all his boys out and

628
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: you know, so they can do this and do that.

629
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 6: And some of the times that money got ate up

630
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 6: by you know, the nigga who you know was the

631
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 6: was the man at the time at the label.

632
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: You get me.

633
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 6: You know, those hip hop labels love giving out money

634
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 6: to niggas who they felt like was carrying their labels.

635
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 6: You get me, and hip hop was doing that for

636
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 6: a lot of motherfuckers. So if he was one of

637
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 6: those niggas at the time where you got a record

638
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 6: and they dropped in you got a platinum record. Shit,

639
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 6: you can walk into the motherfucking A and R or

640
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 6: the motherfucking whoever and be like, nigga, I want a

641
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 6: label deal. Nigga, I need five I got like six

642
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 6: artists and whatever. They'll be like, hey, here you go,

643
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 6: and shit, you know a lot of those times, you know,

644
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 6: a lot of niggas was in business man, you know,

645
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: because let's face it, you know, I'm just an artist myself,

646
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 6: so to go into that that executive role, you know

647
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: that sometimes that was just the name on the back

648
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 6: of a record you feel me executive produced by because,

649
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 6: like you said, a lot of those times, those artists

650
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 6: didn't get the same promotion or love that the motherfucker

651
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 6: who got them the deal is getting you're getting.

652
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you too, what happened man back

653
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: in the day. And I saw this as a retailer

654
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: because I happened to have I happened to be one

655
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: of the earlier stores to get sound skinned in my

656
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: store because I remember when that first came up. I

657
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: had a record store in Paramodt called Flavored for Your

658
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: Ear Records right now. I remember when they first came out.

659
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: I was excited about it. They came out and hook

660
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: this stuff up. I was like, man, we actually be

661
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: reporting and stuff because before, when I first started becoming

662
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: a reporting store, we would have to call in, you know,

663
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: we could fact the sheet in. You know at the

664
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 4: end of the week, right.

665
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: You're talking about Paramount out here still yeah, Paramount out here, yep, Okay,

666
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: you didn't know that, man, Like.

667
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

668
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 4: Had a record store, man. Actually, that's how I met

669
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 4: big A. Man at big A had Underworld Records in Compton.

670
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: Off, yep, you remember that.

671
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: That's the first time I ever went to Confident was

672
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 5: to go to that store with him.

673
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he had Underworld Records in Compton.

674
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: We had like a little coalition because the Calvin Anderson

675
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: and Cletus and all of them. Cleta's actually owned the

676
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 4: one Stop Music Merchandisers and Lamar Park. They had.

677
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: They were a powerful change of stores. You know.

678
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: They had the VIP Records in Compton. They had a

679
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 4: bunch of record stores, right, so they had a lot

680
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: of buying power. Man. They would get records like they

681
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: was getting records for the same price that Warehouse Music

682
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: was getting.

683
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: For, you know what I mean, because they had so

684
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: many people.

685
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: So me and Big A got together, you know, enterprise

686
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 4: as Big A man, we gonna run us a thing.

687
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, he was coming over putting light

688
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: boards on my store and he's like, Yo, you can

689
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: get five hundred dollars a month from this, you know.

690
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: So we started making money. And that's how I got

691
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: the sound scan stuff. Man. I remember, I would get

692
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: like boxes of CDs in the main one. I would

693
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: get all the no limit stuff. Dude, I would get

694
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: like boxes of that shit.

695
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: Man.

696
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: I would come come to the store and have like

697
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: like two three thousand pieces of waiting out back, and

698
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: some of them had them little holes dream in them,

699
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, to say they promous. I was selling all

700
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: the motherfuckers five dollars a pop, and I just thought

701
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: about it. All of them motherfuckers steal scanned. I was

702
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 4: reporting every last one of that shit. Next thing, you know,

703
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: you see Master Peagle like this, he become fucking one

704
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: the biggest artists in the fucking country. Yeah, and I'm

705
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: not gonna go in too much detail, man, but we

706
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: had a lot of other opportunities to do stuff to

707
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: where people would come by and say, hey, Man, can you,

708
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: you know, hook some stuff up. I'm gonna tell you

709
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: some of these guys really sold records though. Some of

710
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: these dues really sold records. But I saw people actually

711
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: start supporting Master to people without even hearing his music,

712
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 4: dog because they heard about him.

713
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: Let me hear that.

714
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: It was a real movement though, man, because people a

715
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 5: movement like a motherfucker. He put out so many records,

716
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 5: he had so many artists. I remember the first time

717
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: I saw him. I was in Dayton, Ohio. I went

718
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 5: to a show and saw him there. Man, it was crazy.

719
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe a that there was that many people

720
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 5: at the show since they're not from they Ohio. But

721
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: they knew a lot of the records too. I was shocked.

722
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: Yeh was definitely his marketing. See you know what I'm

723
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 4: a tell you what really took off. What really took

724
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: off for him, man, was when he started putting out

725
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 4: those little compilations yeah, down South West Boys, down South

726
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: Hustles and all that stuff.

727
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: And he just said he had a movement going.

728
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: I think too that.

729
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: I looked on one of those compilations.

730
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 5: I think was the first level.

731
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: I got a plaque for one of those for that compilation.

732
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 6: I forgot what it was, West Coast Bad Boys, I

733
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 6: think number two. Yeah, yeah, well, I know he wanted

734
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 6: to fuck with you. Yeah, I mean he was. He

735
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 6: was good people's I mean, you know, but uh, you know.

736
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: He was.

737
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 6: He was about his business if you want to you know,

738
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 6: if anything, you get me.

739
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: And he was that's what that's what you gotta be.

740
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 6: As far as you know, people think hip hop is

741
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 6: just some fad type of shit, but you know, there's

742
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 6: been there's been a few niggas who really been about

743
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 6: their business when it comes to this motherfucker shit as

744
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 6: far as running successful labels and knowing how to promote

745
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: and entertain and uh, you know, taking that road to

746
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: where you know it gets you to that status of

747
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: becoming a top notch executive or whatever.

748
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: So you know, hip I wasn't to be played with.

749
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: You know, it wouldn't.

750
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: And I saw it firsthand by me getting to work

751
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: all fastest, just from like being a rapper on the

752
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 4: retail That's how I learned about me have an actual

753
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: retail store. So it wasn't the weather option for me, man,

754
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: than to put my own stuff out, you know. Just

755
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: when I learned it, and dealing with the different distributors,

756
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: like the alliances, of learning what a one stop was,

757
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: I actually developed a really good system throughout the country

758
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: of being able to release records man, even overseas, like

759
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: to a lot of young artists out there. If you

760
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: want to, if you're really serious about selling your music,

761
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: it's still going on today. Fuck going down to the

762
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 4: Southwest with what's the shit they got down there south

763
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: by Southwest? Fuck going all that shit. Put you a

764
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: few dollars together and go out the Middle MISS held

765
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: in con France every year every year in January. I'm

766
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: going down there this year and eight. When I tell you,

767
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: you go over there, man, it's every distributor that's in

768
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: the world that's out there. I went out there and

769
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: did like six different licensing deals. I did one for

770
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: the United Kingdom, I did one for Germany. I did

771
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: one that was for Amsterdam and one Amsterdam. I was

772
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 4: making like twenty dollars a record, twenty US dollars a record.

773
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: I didn't sell number three hundred CDs out there, but

774
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: I was making twenty dollars a record though I showed

775
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: glass to Malone because I still got the statements. Year

776
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: I was showing glass to Malone statements. I said, this

777
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: is how much I used to make off my stuff.

778
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 4: He's one out the middle of Miss January because he's saying, bro,

779
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: if that changed your life like that, it did. I

780
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: was selling all of the dog Pound. I could talk

781
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 4: about it now because it's so long ago. We were

782
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 4: selling big able to drop off three or four thousand

783
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: dog Pound CDs to my house man, different CDs man.

784
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: You know they was getting their money too though. All

785
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: these c's and even some of the major artists. Hey man, still,

786
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: I need you to get this out. We had a

787
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 4: plug man that we were selling CDs to Japan. We

788
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: was getting cood. I would ship out to Japan, I

789
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: would ship out to Germany, all these places, cod Andy.

790
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: If I knew your ass back then, we'd have made

791
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: a bag. Because after came to you and said, hey,

792
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: go get as many promote promo CDs as you can,

793
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: we go sell off of thet motherfucker's over there and

794
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: cod out with Sony.

795
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 6: Wasn't playing that shit, Sony be like, I mean you

796
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 6: taking oh here, we'll give you thirty that shit.

797
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: They wasn't going for that. Oh no, they wasn't going

798
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: with that.

799
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 6: Come up there and get Stay five on the CDs now.

800
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: Today, like niggas you crazy?

801
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: You know the DJA We went to the studio.

802
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: We went to the studio to say it, man, go

803
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: tell Slip to make you eight beats to ten beats.

804
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: We just needed enough to call it out eight beats, man,

805
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: go in there and make a project. We'd have put

806
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: took a picture of that motherfucker out and took it.

807
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: That sent it down to the pen of pick some motherfucker.

808
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 6: This nigga talking about he talking about going to Japan

809
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: and this fucking soady.

810
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: Nigga right there. The niggas would have.

811
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 6: Been waked or you trying to sell product over that

812
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 6: nigga signed to Sony?

813
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: Is you crazy?

814
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Man?

815
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: But man, when I tell you, dog, that was my

816
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 4: first mistake in business. We got paid CEO d right

817
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: and I never will forget man. We had just shipped off.

818
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: It was almost it was probably December twelfth, we had

819
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: shipped out the girl that hit me and said, hey,

820
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 4: I need eight hundred of these, five hundred of these

821
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 4: and a thousand of these. So we shipped the shit off, right.

822
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: She tells me that because you know their time of

823
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: a year over there, right, that all the banks were closed.

824
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: You know they running shipping a little different schedule, right.

825
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: But she was good, she had always paid us.

826
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 3: I know this story. You want to tell that.

827
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Story story, but I ain't gonna tell who it.

828
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 4: Is, Okay, So man, I send the email off, just

829
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: trying to do good business because we beginning paid Ceod

830
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: the whole time. These motherfuckers is looking at me like,

831
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: still you sure you know what I mean? That's a

832
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: big ship.

833
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro.

834
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: I send the email off, and she see them on there,

835
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: one of the dudes on there, one of the artists

836
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 4: respond back like, bi, schwhere the fuck the money at? Man?

837
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: When I tell you and you know over an angel,

838
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: they real calm.

839
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: She just responded back and said, I apologize, I will

840
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: pay with my own credit card.

841
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: She paid us dog. She never responded. No more of

842
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: our emails again though, so just.

843
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 4: That they fucked up plug And when I tell you

844
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: that we had probably made about four hundred thousand dollars

845
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: off that plug. Dog, and I say, y'all tripping off

846
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: this little bit of money. I was so fucking mad.

847
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 4: I didn't talk to dude for a whole year.

848
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

849
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: I was so fucked. Where the fuck was you at

850
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: back man? I needed to be doing business with a

851
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 4: mob man and motherfucker like.

852
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: You, Beckon.

853
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 6: I wasn't my miner back then. I'd have been the

854
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 6: same way where fucked my money at nigga. I'd have

855
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 6: been all on that bitch head too. Bitch sitting my

856
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 6: mother fucking bread Christmas time. God damn it. Understand me.

857
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 6: Niggas around here starving and shit while y'all there eating

858
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: shrimp full youngs this shit real quick, send me my

859
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: bread man with the starget.

860
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: You know what's so cold about that, though?

861
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: Man, We just got a wire from them for about

862
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: like eighteen recks about a week before, like about a

863
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: week and a half.

864
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: Money was coming in like that. You wouldn't have been tripping,

865
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: dog because it was so much money.

866
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: Amaze John Man.

867
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 6: Man, some nigga's just like when they know it's there. Man,

868
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 6: I wanted you give me that's just like, that's just

869
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: like right now, man, we know it's there, right, Nigga,

870
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 6: I want this shit right now.

871
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right there.

872
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: These companies that make the motherfucker what's so cold?

873
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 6: Dog?

874
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: You know what I saw the publishing company I was

875
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: working for a dude. Dog, it was this group man

876
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: over England. Dude was about to lose his house. He

877
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: got divorced, right and his wife took his ass to

878
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: the cleaners. He had a publishing check coming for about

879
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: like it wasn't a whole bunch of money, but it

880
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 4: was for like forty thousand, right, like forty forty five

881
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: thousand dollars.

882
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: He was gonna get that. What was his check?

883
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: Dude needed like fifteen thousand to save his house and

884
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 4: he was.

885
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: Gonna get paid like two or three weeks later. It

886
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: was like two or three weeks. Did you know they

887
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't give him the money?

888
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: Man? Wow, They just said no, you get paid at

889
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: this time. And I saw this same and I started

890
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: looking at them different back things. I thought these motherfuckers

891
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: was my friends. I realized at that point, with all

892
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: this dude, this plain that he done made, these motherfuckers,

893
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: they won't do him a silad.

894
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: See, I'd have did that shit. Hey, you'd have been good.

895
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: He'd have been good for that. You know what I mean.

896
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: I got your one year right here, but because your

897
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: contract says you get paid at this time.

898
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: And you know what's so cold? I saw this brawl.

899
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: She went and bought a house, and she bought a

900
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: house in Hollywood Hills, and I remember she had the

901
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: people coming over there. She was remodeling her kitchen, the

902
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: marble that she already had in her kitchen.

903
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: I saw the dude that was do it. He refused

904
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: to do the job.

905
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: He said, this marble is like he said, this is

906
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: something like eight hundred dollars a foot of some shit

907
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: like that. He said, she wants to break it. And

908
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 4: I saw her grab a hammer. Yes, I want you

909
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: to break it, and she started hitting that motherfucker like this.

910
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: She had that much wain. That's when I realized, I said,

911
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: the part of the game where the money iss in

912
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: the music publishing, Dog music publishing. But I saw her

913
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 4: do that. Man and that cat, by the way, wound

914
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: up committing suicide. Dog to do the lost this house, Yeah, dude,

915
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: the Lost's house committed suicide.

916
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 5: Bro.

917
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: Wow, I've seen some shipping the music business man, and

918
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: really it made me decide during that time that I

919
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: wanted to be a certain kind of businessman.

920
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't now. I don't get me wrong.

921
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make money, I ain't gonna take no losses.

922
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna be a piece of shit businessman

923
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: to where if I owe you a nickel, I'm gonna

924
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: give you a nickel. I'm not gonna be trying to

925
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: be slicking and do all this and that. I've always

926
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: believed you supposed to pay your motherfucker what they what

927
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 4: they get, But now I do know that there are

928
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: several artists with the mentality that that just don't understand business.

929
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 4: You may pay them, but it's some artists that just

930
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: don't understand. Like whenever I hear artists say that they

931
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: got over, I say, yeah, you probably did. Everybody gets

932
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: fucked over. A record deal in itself is very criminal

933
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: anytime the company is allowed to make this much but

934
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 4: they recoup up the little bit of thing like this,

935
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's like, Okay, we made

936
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: two million dollars, but you haven't recouped enough of your

937
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: twenty cent to pay your debt back, but I'm gonna

938
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: go buy a boat. I'm gonna put my kids through college.

939
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: That's just the way the contract is structured. Because for

940
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 4: every person, for every MC eight they got in the

941
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: building and companies most warned it's gonna be bankable and incredible,

942
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: you're paying for maybe twelve other artists that at flopped

943
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: up in that motherfucker eight.

944
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 5: And that's the thing though, I think people don't understand that.

945
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 5: On the one hand, it is shady, shaky, bad, but

946
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: on the other hand, they got to cover all those

947
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 5: other losses, and there's a lot of them. Most of

948
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 5: them are losses.

949
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to make it as a successful artist. I've

950
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: seen that. Oh yeah, for sure, it's hard. But that's

951
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

952
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 4: Even if you got a radio play and this ain't

953
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: at disc because Shave shis is actually my man Shaved,

954
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: She do save.

955
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Shaved.

956
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shane was getting about three thousand spins a week.

957
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: Dog that album came out. Dog, they gave me that deal. Man,

958
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: my boy sold like one hundred and fifty records. Dog,

959
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 4: that record was playing everywhere.

960
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: That was what happened.

961
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 3: What happened.

962
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Didn't nobody want to buy that ship Dog, That's what happened.

963
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had the nice song with Nate. Was

964
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: he what was he signed to?

965
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: I think he m c A. I think mc A Records.

966
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: They had to Miss had a deal over there, Dog,

967
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: and that was a jam and ass record Dog.

968
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Beat by Timberland.

969
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 5: Dog.

970
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: I think that record man proudly and we would have

971
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 4: to have Miss on the show one day if he

972
00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 4: had come out.

973
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: MS actually a real good dude. That's a sad part

974
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: about it.

975
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: I think that signaled the end of his radio career

976
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: kind of because he put so much time and effort

977
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: into that project Dog, and then he got he convinced,

978
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: you know, all the mother people up there, Jimmy Steele

979
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 4: and all of them to get behind it. He kind

980
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: of gave up his seat at the radio station to

981
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: do that, because if he'd stayed up there and you know,

982
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 4: did all that, it it looked like it was some

983
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: kind of it looked like it was some.

984
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: Kind of game going on, you know what I mean.

985
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: So he kind of gave that up, man, But that

986
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: kind of signaled the end of his career because I

987
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: that scared me.

988
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: I said, this dude with all that radio player and

989
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: they ate that song wasn't what.

990
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: So it was okay for you know.

991
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 6: From the you know, the the side that was coming from.

992
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 3: It was a nice party jam.

993
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a cool record. Dog, It was a

994
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: cool record.

995
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 4: It wasn't not like because you know, I was always

996
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 4: a confidence, most wanting scarface type of dude nas and

997
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: all them. You know, I was more into the hardcore

998
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: edgy and stuff. But I thought that was a good

999
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: record though.

1000
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 6: So both of y'all, you know, being you know, connoisseurs

1001
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 6: of hip hop and especially knowing the ins and outs

1002
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 6: of so called gangster rap, what you say that gangster

1003
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 6: rap today is more of gang banging rap than gangster

1004
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 6: rap of yesterday.

1005
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: I would say so definitely, yeah, because they talk about

1006
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: stuff that y'all could. You got to think about it. Eight,

1007
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: If you would have been on your records prag knew

1008
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: this and talk about who you was beefing with, man

1009
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: you had every show you went through, shut up they

1010
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: shot that shit up, you'd have probably been in prison

1011
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: right now for shooting somebody or possitively even worse from

1012
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: the alternative. You know, you just say that type of stuff.

1013
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: You couldn't do that type of stuff. Because I remember

1014
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: even me hanging out with black because you know, I

1015
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: ran with Black Tone and High Seat and all of

1016
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 4: them real tough.

1017
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: Back then. I was riding with RBX one night and Long.

1018
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: Beach and he was like, Cuz, listen, he said, my bad, dog,

1019
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: I forgot you a beat.

1020
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: Dog.

1021
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: I said, Bro, I don't bang. He said, for real,

1022
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: you didn't. I thought you was a blood. I said, Bro,

1023
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: I am not no blood. Bro. These are just my homeboys.

1024
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 4: I just do shit with them. They I'm not no blood, don't.

1025
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: But it was that thick back then to where just

1026
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: by affiliation, you know how much shit I got into

1027
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: it with with niggas man thinking that I was from

1028
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: the other side dog or I was from here, especially

1029
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: when I would go back to Long Beach the Chicken

1030
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 4: with the homies. Oh man, we seeing you just don't

1031
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: switched up, nigga. You you know what's this? And I'm like, Bro,

1032
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 4: I am not no game, Bro, I'm not so for sure.

1033
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 4: It's damn it's for damn sure. More more gangs to

1034
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 4: the day. Man.

1035
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 5: Look at all the u because even with the Bloods

1036
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: and Crypts album, which was so blatant, look at all

1037
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 5: the albums and singles and stuff now and the songs

1038
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 5: they're just everybody's dropping, Like still was saying, they're dropping

1039
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 5: specific sets, neighborhoods, streets, beefs, none, that one going on

1040
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: near to the magnitude. I mean, look, Carti has one

1041
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 5: of the biggest songs, She's a blood dope shall now

1042
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: blood on a commercial single that had never nobody had

1043
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 5: a song like that, nobody ever?

1044
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: And why do you think that is accepted now?

1045
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 6: Because of Uh? Our records are put out with no restrictions,

1046
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: no as far as labels are concerned, because even if

1047
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 6: you are signed to a label, you can pretty much

1048
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 6: you know, I'm from this block, ducky killed so and

1049
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: so from from that block.

1050
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: Uh, we don't give a fuck.

1051
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 6: We represent like you said, bloods, we represent crips. Uh

1052
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 6: so coming from that era of where you know, we

1053
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 6: got labeled gangster rap. Why isn't it so much restriction

1054
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 6: of those artists like we got? Is it because uh

1055
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 6: the financial gain that company make?

1056
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: What is its commercialized right now? I think game baning

1057
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: is to the point now eight to where it's almost

1058
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: like a cultural aspect of the It's a cultural aspect

1059
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: of the himpop right now.

1060
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: I think it's been it's been so commercialized that the

1061
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 5: the quote unquote, even though it's obviously super still super dangerous.

1062
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 5: I think to the outside person, they're like, oh, justin

1063
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: Timberlake and see walking in the video with Snoop Dogg.

1064
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: It must be cool to do it.

1065
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: It must That's what I'm saying. And you just said

1066
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: the main Cooper.

1067
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: I think Snoop came out and Snoop was so mainstream

1068
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 4: with his cripping dog it took away the uncomfortable aspect

1069
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: of people, I think, and I think it's just a

1070
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: part of the culture now. Like you know, even going

1071
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: back to Shade Sheist, I believe the reason Shade Shist

1072
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 4: didn't say on the records was because he wasn't from nowhere.

1073
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: Wasn't the Australia song huh, I think Australia song.

1074
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: No, he wasn't from Australia. He was from out here.

1075
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: But he was just a regular dude man. I think

1076
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: if he'd have been from Drag New or Rolling twenty

1077
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: Crip or or anything, it wasn't no point of reference.

1078
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: And I think on the West Coast, if you can

1079
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: come out as a rapper out here, I think you

1080
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: definitely have to at least have some kind of a

1081
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 4: alligation with somebody.

1082
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 3: It's because out here.

1083
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 6: We've had successful nine gang banging rappers.

1084
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: You get the.

1085
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 5: Still who far Side for instance.

1086
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: Well, you know far Side, that's a whole that's like

1087
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: going to the hip hop side of things.

1088
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's what we're there. There have been ras cast.

1089
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 4: Them making the type of music, making the type of

1090
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: music like when you start the moment you start talking

1091
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: about and see even though Shade was he wasn't talking

1092
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: about necessarily no rock rock ship.

1093
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: I think at Laurene and all of them, you.

1094
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: Know, do you think you're do you think you.

1095
00:55:52,520 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 6: Get you think you get a uh a better shot

1096
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 6: at becoming a successful artist from the West Coast if

1097
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 6: you are representing a neighborhood.

1098
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe so.

1099
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 6: Now he's as far as just I mean, because that's

1100
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 6: you know, even Kendrick represented you know, a neighborhood.

1101
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: You feel me.

1102
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 4: Perfect example, even though he really wouldn't gain banged out

1103
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: like that, you still had a point of reference for

1104
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 4: him to where people be like, okay from there, you

1105
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean exactly, because.

1106
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 6: I mean, you knew he affiliated with the Bloods. I

1107
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 6: mean you knew that. I mean everybody you know, I

1108
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 6: think like like uh like glasses and them said to.

1109
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 3: A certain point.

1110
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 6: As far as the outside world concerned, they probably were like,

1111
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 6: oh he did.

1112
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: He was a film you know.

1113
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 6: But to niggas like us, we already knew he was associate,

1114
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 6: you know, where he grew up from, who he hung around,

1115
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 6: where his neighborhood was. So that was no you know,

1116
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 6: big secret. But I'm just saying, do you think it

1117
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 6: helps your success as far as any artist from because nowadays,

1118
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 6: let's face it, shit and it's representation of gang shit everywhere.

1119
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: Do you feel that do you feel that as.

1120
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 6: A journalist and as a hip hop kind of seword,

1121
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 6: do you think that helps with your career as an

1122
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 6: artist if you're representing poverty and drive by killings and

1123
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 6: oppression and all of that.

1124
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: I think so, because.

1125
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 6: That's far as the motherfucker who just comes out talking about,

1126
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 6: you know, hey, let's party, get drunk, spend money whatever, whatever.

1127
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1128
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 5: I think there's two things with that eight. One, they

1129
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 5: got to have good music because you could be rapping up.

1130
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: I mean, look at Dayla Soul. They had potholes in

1131
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 5: my lawn launched their career before me myself and I so.

1132
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you could rap about whatever, but I think

1133
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 5: when the time comes then people want to know about

1134
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 5: who is this.

1135
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: Dude, who are these people?

1136
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 8: And then that's where talking about your background, that's where

1137
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 8: the legend is born of Oh he's a real dude,

1138
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 8: for real dude because he's from so and so, and

1139
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 8: that's that's where I think the music's got.

1140
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: The music is far and away the most important thing.

1141
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 5: But I think when especially from really any major city Chicago, LA,

1142
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 5: even New York, now, of course they want to know

1143
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 5: that street stuff.

1144
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. It becomes a part of your

1145
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 4: It becomes a part of your dust. He ain't so

1146
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: to speak, because you think about when Game first came out.

1147
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: Even if Game got shot one time in the ankle.

1148
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: It just made his story sound that much exciting.

1149
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: He got shot while he was in there selling crack

1150
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 4: and he this big blood from over there. That just

1151
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: brought an air of mystery to him. Man, the air

1152
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: of excitement to where it's like, okay, this big blood

1153
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: dude trade back of the month. He down with fifty cent,

1154
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: who was the most powerful brand and hip hop at

1155
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: the time, he was just set up, man, Like the

1156
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: whole setup was.

1157
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: If he'd have been a dude from just Belflower.

1158
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: Some damn where, it wouldn't have been nowhere nearest Captain

1159
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: Vaka right, Nobody wouldn't nobody had called him to that shit, And.

1160
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 5: Think about it to that very point. Still, this has

1161
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 5: been going on since eighty seven with boys in the hood,

1162
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 5: of all that, all that progression of Compton, since eighty seven,

1163
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 5: of building up Compton, building up Compton to where, oh game,

1164
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 5: he's from that lineage. He can point to everybody that's

1165
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 5: from Compton. The fans, Oh man, I love this dude

1166
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 5: from Compton. It all matters. It all matters, that what

1167
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

1168
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 4: That's why I think you would never have a rapper

1169
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: from Compton that's not affiliated with no Game blow up.

1170
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: Like the Far Side.

1171
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 4: I think they was accepted because they were from somewhere else,

1172
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: like ras Cast from Carson and all them dudes could

1173
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: very well be from somewhere like I don't know, you know,

1174
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 4: raz the Homyshoder Rasin.

1175
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think Rads is no game banger. You see,

1176
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the difference.

1177
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: Look at exhibit for example, even though exhibit don't claim

1178
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: no game, look at exhibit when he was doing a

1179
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 4: ship with ras Cast and all them dudes margs, no

1180
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 4: career at best, had dope records, The foundation was dope

1181
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 4: as hell. All that stuff was dope. What you see

1182
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: is what you get. Incredible. But when he linked up

1183
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: with Dray and started talking about low lows and start

1184
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: crip walking, motherfucker blew up?

1185
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: Am I right? Someone in my line?

1186
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 5: No? I mean, he definitely sold way more records, but

1187
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 5: I think too. The main factor is he went from

1188
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 5: affiliation of alcoholics and King T to affiliation with Dray

1189
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 5: and Snoop and being on there gangster shoot. He was

1190
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 5: doing that before, not to the magnitude per se, but

1191
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 5: he was definitely not talking soft by any means. He

1192
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 5: was a hardcore artist all the time.

1193
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm thank some of some forty days and nights

1194
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 6: and ship.

1195
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. I don't know if I.

1196
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 6: Necessarily looked at exhibit as.

1197
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 5: Hmmm.

1198
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 6: I don't know if I necessary. I don't know if

1199
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 6: I necessarily ever took him for the alcoholics.

1200
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,959
Speaker 3: You get me from what you're from.

1201
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 6: What you see is what you get now, I thought

1202
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 6: he was an La nicker, you get me.

1203
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: I never was like, where is nigga from?

1204
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 6: Because usually that usually comes out when you uh uh

1205
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 6: fucking with La rappers or Compton rappers.

1206
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 3: Thus I found out he.

1207
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 6: Was from somewhere else, not a not a from California

1208
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 6: so to speak. But I don't know the mannerisms of

1209
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 6: of who he was was all day West Coast, even

1210
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 6: before even even before the even before the Dre and

1211
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 6: Snoop dang. I just thought that getting with Dre basically

1212
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 6: planted him as an official West Coast artist because of

1213
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 6: I don't want to necessarily say like because Snoop and

1214
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 6: Dre and them was on gangster shit, because like you said,

1215
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 6: I did not know he wasn't from La, so I

1216
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 6: just automatically assumed he was from somewhere you know, from

1217
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 6: you know, and that sometimes it works out like that too,

1218
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 6: you know, especially if you from one side or one

1219
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 6: section and you didn't venture out too much to different

1220
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 6: niggas neighborhoods.

1221
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: You did me so well.

1222
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 5: Let me also say this still one of the other

1223
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 5: early dudes, even though he's from Compton that blew up

1224
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 5: as king t he wasn't gang banging like that.

1225
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, King T was huge man.

1226
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: But King T, even though he wasn't a gang banger,

1227
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: he talked gangster shit like his early shiit like whenever

1228
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 4: you come to Butter bring Gun. He was talking about

1229
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 4: a street relatable shit. So in this Laura course them

1230
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 4: w he still was talking about gangster ship.

1231
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: King T affiliated with a lot of neighborhoods in Compton

1232
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 6: and he knew a lot of gang bang niggas and

1233
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 6: you know, from those walks of life.

1234
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: So again, Uh, that was a pure comptent nigga to me.

1235
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 3: You feel me?

1236
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 4: You could you know he wasn't from company. I just

1237
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 4: found out he wasn't from Compton maybe like two years ago.

1238
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: He was from the Valley. I always thought. I always

1239
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: thought Tether was from Compton.

1240
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 6: Like I said, his representation, his representation to me has

1241
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 6: always been official Compton. I don't give a fuck.

1242
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1243
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 6: He was always one of those niggas who represented the town.

1244
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 6: Like I said, he was one of the first niggas

1245
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 6: I listened to coming up when I first got into

1246
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 6: hip hop. Uh, being a gang banging and ship, he

1247
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 6: was the epitted me of a Campting nigga. To me, suits,

1248
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 6: you know, no widers and ship. Uh his affiliation with

1249
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 6: Spade you feel me? Uh, Spade's affiliation with Toddy T.

1250
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, like that was the appitted me of

1251
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 6: compt and gangster ship to me.

1252
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. And I always saw Tela is against

1253
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: the repper.

1254
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: I never thought of Tila as nothing else, and I

1255
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 4: knew he was a spinner, like when he put the

1256
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 4: alcoholics on and all of them see King T. He

1257
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: never get the credit that King T started a lot

1258
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: of people's careers. Man, Oh definitely, he jump started ganging

1259
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 4: people's careers. Man. Tela was that dude man, and I

1260
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 4: really wish his situation with Drake would have worked out

1261
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 4: a little bit better. But Tela was shot the DJ Bobcat.

1262
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: He looked up with Drake. He he wound up getting

1263
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 4: hooked up with Ray through said Bobcat. Because when Drave

1264
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 4: was first starting after Man, he asked Bobcat who he

1265
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 4: should go get, and he said, man, you should fuck

1266
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: with King T.

1267
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: He went and found King T.

1268
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: King T was somewhere drinking forties and Bob literally scooped

1269
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 4: him up and took him to preak true story. We

1270
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 4: gotta get you one to hear Bob we I'm gonna

1271
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 4: tell all the stories though I can't keep holding him in.

1272
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, but uh, king T, he did represent it and

1273
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 5: wrapped about it a lot. I mean, I've interviewed him

1274
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 5: and talked to him about that on Unique Access. But

1275
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 5: he also had so much other stuff that he did

1276
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 5: that wasn't that, And most of his music wasn't that,

1277
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 5: even though some of it was. He had a lot

1278
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 5: of super political stuff that wasn't gang bang related. But

1279
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 5: he also trying to take.

1280
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: The gangst the edge away from Tea. Everybody thought King T.

1281
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 4: Was against the rapp, not me. You the only one

1282
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: I thought he was. I thought he spicks. Now he

1283
01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 4: wasn't one dimension.

1284
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: Though, That's what I'm saying.

1285
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: That was the Brothers like one dimensional every song.

1286
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't about shooting bang No.

1287
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 3: That's one thing about Teyla.

1288
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 6: His representation wasn't always about the music. To me, Uh,

1289
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 6: I just thought he was a gangster nigga from Compton, because,

1290
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 6: like I said, he hung with the gangster niggas. He

1291
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 6: knew a lot of niggas from the streets in the neighborhoods,

1292
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 6: the low riding car, the crips. Uh you know, he

1293
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 6: he was just associated with that foundation. You know, like

1294
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 6: I said, when you when you're building through Compton, you

1295
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 6: better bring a gun and all that type. All the

1296
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 6: earlier works that he did with Spade and all of them.

1297
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 6: I knew that he wasn't always uh or didn't speak

1298
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 6: on neighborhood. Ship a lot of records, Uh. For instance,

1299
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 6: YE had a lot yeah bass play at your own

1300
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 6: rough ferens.

1301
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 7: Uh.

1302
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 6: Some of them still flirt the coolest, uh.

1303
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean ship.

1304
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 6: He had a lot of records with with unknown in them.

1305
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 6: That wasn't about you know, he was just rapping, you

1306
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 6: get me. But he was to us he was a

1307
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 6: gangster nigga because you know he had that he was.

1308
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 6: He was in the streets. You know what I'm saying.

1309
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 6: It was about Compton. He spoke on Compton and gang

1310
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,480
Speaker 6: bang situations.

1311
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 3: And you know.

1312
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 4: I would say, man, your ship ate y'all ship music

1313
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 4: to drive by with y'all sitting in the thing, y'all

1314
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: got the gets in the bank.

1315
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: I think that and qt's album covers two of the.

1316
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: Hardest album covers in hip hop, Heating the Suit with

1317
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 4: the Games.

1318
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 3: I thought that was the hardest album cover ever just.

1319
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah with.

1320
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 6: Pool kneeling down and they got the Caddy on the

1321
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 6: Dayton's nigga, and my nigga got the great khaki suit

1322
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 6: on and he dragging the twelve gauge nigga.

1323
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: That was like, that was the epitome of hood ship

1324
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: right there.

1325
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,440
Speaker 1: Niggas you thought, like, damn.

1326
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 6: Man, gangster ship, right you immediately thought, oh, there's some

1327
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 6: gangster ship nigga, the Cadillac Dayton's twelve gauge in the

1328
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 6: khaki suit and then the homie kneeling down nigga with

1329
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 6: the stars on or something like, oh yeah, these niggas

1330
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 6: is from the hood somewhere.

1331
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: Think about that time period, though, how many niggas did

1332
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 4: you know that really failed through the.

1333
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: Hood like that.

1334
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 6: I mean, I was every day attire, we know, ship,

1335
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 6: but either five ones or khaki suits, that's it. Fucking

1336
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 6: T shirts and fucking Nike Cortez. You you know, you

1337
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 6: try to represent your your your hood with your hat.

1338
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 6: If you couldn't, it was a Raiders hat or Keeens

1339
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 6: hat nigga, and and that was it. And just from that,

1340
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 6: niggas knew you was from a game period. Whatever whatever color,

1341
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 6: whatever you seeing with that, you know you might have

1342
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 6: on some blue Cortez or some some some some some

1343
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 6: tan khakis with a red belt. You know, you you you,

1344
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 6: you slid your color in there. But that was the

1345
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 6: everyday dresser tire man. I don't give a funny. I

1346
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 6: owned every color pair of khakis. So, nigga, I'm telling

1347
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 6: you that was That was the every day attire. And

1348
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 6: even when your mom tried to get you to wear

1349
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 6: some different, nigga, you went, please you you.

1350
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 4: Brought up you talk about MC and against rappers. Right

1351
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 4: before we get up out of it, I gotta tell

1352
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 4: this story. Jayo Felony is an EMC dog. Everybody know

1353
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 4: Jao is cripping all day at Cripple, But that motherfucker

1354
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: can wrap his ass off. I'm gonna tell you a story.

1355
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: We was at Underworld Records in Compton. Big A used

1356
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 4: to have this thing like the little block party.

1357
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: Jail was perform.

1358
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jail was there. Did you see him start lighting

1359
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,520
Speaker 4: motherfuckers up in the middle of the concert.

1360
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 5: I might not have seen that part.

1361
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: No, he up there rapping.

1362
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 4: Ain't doing this song, you know how niggas it be

1363
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 4: MC's and all these talking shit. Jo looked out there

1364
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: and said, oh, y'all motherfucker's rappers, bring y'all ass up

1365
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 4: there eight one motherfucker up, two motherfuckers up, three motherfuckers,

1366
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 4: four motherfuckers. I saw Jayo Felony served about five to

1367
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 4: eight niggas. And when I tell you, dog that these

1368
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't booble ass MC's, they had some shit. He was

1369
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 4: letting go first and shit, and I was like, okay, okay,

1370
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 4: Jail was freestyle. He told this one motherfucker, bust a

1371
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 4: nut on your curly top. And he was freestyling talk

1372
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 4: about the motherfucker's curly top. And he pulled a zipper

1373
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 4: down and did he like, I bust a nut on

1374
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 4: your curly top. I was like, oh my god, this

1375
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 4: nigga is ridiculous. So it's plenty of rappers, dog, gainst

1376
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 4: the rappers that can spit, Ain can spit, so you.

1377
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 6: Just have to. It was some of us who, even

1378
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 6: though we was neighborhood affiliated, there was still artists out

1379
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 6: here who made you want to prove your worthiness of

1380
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 6: being an MC and grabbing a mic. You get me.

1381
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 6: And they didn't have nothing to do with gangs and shit.

1382
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1383
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 6: Niggas like Cube niggas like Rock Kim, niggas like Big

1384
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 6: Daddy Kane, you know, niggas like KRS One.

1385
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1386
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 6: It was niggas, you know, a scar face. You know

1387
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 6: it was niggas who grabbed the microphone that you was like,

1388
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 6: oh my god, these niggas is like, what is it?

1389
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 3: Because you, as an artist, nigga, you be sitting uphing

1390
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 3: like how the fuck that nigga come up with that ship?

1391
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: Wouldn't think of you know who nigga think.

1392
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 3: Of that ship?

1393
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 6: Because that I'd be sitting up like nigga, I would

1394
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 6: have never thought of that ship.

1395
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 5: He let me ask you this because I remember the

1396
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 5: first time I heard going back to Cali. First of all,

1397
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 5: the concept threw me off, but then he wasn't rhyming

1398
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: and he was kind of whispering about Cali. Do you

1399
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 5: remember what speaking of that? What was your first time

1400
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 5: when you heard that or remember hearing that early on?

1401
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 6: Honestly, I didn't like it, Okay, not because I loved

1402
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 6: LEL cool J. I just thought it was too different

1403
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 6: from me, you getting me. I was I was a

1404
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 6: I was a motherfucking rock the bells fucking I need

1405
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 6: a beat. Ll cool J.

1406
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 3: You getting me.

1407
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 5: I I was.

1408
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: I was a mama said knock you out ll cool J.

1409
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 6: I was never the I need love LLL cool J,

1410
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 6: you get me. So I didn't as a as a

1411
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 6: as a motherfucker who bought hip hop records too.

1412
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 3: I was like, man, what is this because you know

1413
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 3: that's that I don't know.

1414
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 6: I guess that trends, that's that. That's that beginning of

1415
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 6: the transition of hip hop. You know, like you could do,

1416
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 6: you could do all kinds of ship when it comes

1417
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 6: to hip hop, you know what I'm saying. I was

1418
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 6: just like, I just expected it to be something, you know.

1419
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 6: Going back to Cali, I was like, but you know something,

1420
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 6: they keep it real the more I listen to it.

1421
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 6: And then I saw the video and then I always

1422
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 6: liked to depart at the end when my nigga skirted

1423
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 6: off in the court vet and ship, I said, Man,

1424
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 6: this motherfucker hard here.

1425
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 3: Man, it's nig he was on some different shit.

1426
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 6: Man.

1427
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna tell you what I did. I'm

1428
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 4: gonna tell you I like the hard l and I'm

1429
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 4: gonna tell you the story. Dog Bob, he go another one.

1430
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 4: If you don't come out and start telling these stories.

1431
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna steal my guts from all of them. The

1432
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 4: world need to hear them. So Bob gets a call

1433
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 4: from his attorney one day, right talk about Michael Jackson

1434
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: want to work with l L.

1435
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: He wants you to do the beat. So Bob get excited.

1436
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: He pull all his disk uff and he go over this,

1437
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, bail up there where Mike is at right,

1438
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 4: and he said, he going there. Michael sitting at the board.

1439
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 4: He said, el L coming there and he started, you know,

1440
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 4: doing his ship and start doing it when them simmonth

1441
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 4: and living in and he said that. Mike said, Todd,

1442
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 4: I want something a little bit more impressive, you know,

1443
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 4: like I won't like how you did a mom said,

1444
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: knock you out. So he started doing a thinle thunb

1445
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 4: at the time, and so Mike just let him finish,

1446
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 4: and Bob said, man, I can read people. Once he

1447
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 4: started doing other shit in the studio, he knew he

1448
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: lost his thing. So Bob kind of just hung out,

1449
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: he said, a couple of hours later, Heavy d walked

1450
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,440
Speaker 4: up and that motherfucker went in there, jam.

1451
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: Jam he comes to man and Mike was a little

1452
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: fucker dance from and everything else. He wanted some hard, rough,

1453
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: gangster shit, So I think anything with it first.

1454
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 4: Of all, man, and see, I think the West Coast

1455
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 4: and gangster rap go together like hen and glove. And

1456
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 4: that's why the West blew up so hard because hip

1457
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: hop is all about aggression.

1458
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Hip hop is all about aggression.

1459
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 4: Even though you know you got the dudes that's like,

1460
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: you got dope records like the Young Seas and all

1461
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 4: that stuff done, don't nobody liked no soft marshmallow ass

1462
01:16:59,240 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 4: shit dog.

1463
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 6: It's a given It's a given taste, you know, I said.

1464
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 6: Hip hop nowadays, you know it's a different pattern. You

1465
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 6: got everybody doing whatever they feel like, you know they

1466
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 6: want to do. As far as hip hop concern, got

1467
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 6: a lot of different sounds.

1468
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: And what you think about Drake, I don't know.

1469
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 6: I don't have to.

1470
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 3: I don't have an opinion of Drake.

1471
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 4: I think hes motherfucker that can rep I think he definitely.

1472
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 4: I don't think people give him a lot enough credit.

1473
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 4: I think at this point he's a pop artist for real.

1474
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 4: But I noticed that he still goes out and gets

1475
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 4: down with the twenty one Savages.

1476
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 3: And.

1477
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 6: Like I said, I don't have too much. I don't

1478
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 6: have an opinion on Drake. You know, he's he's an artist,

1479
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 6: he's a you know, he's one of those you get me.

1480
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 6: I call him one of those because, uh, you fall

1481
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 6: into a different category when when when you can be

1482
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 6: in the position that he's in as far as music

1483
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 6: is concerned. You know, he's a he's a gifted music

1484
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 6: or artist. You know, I don't think. I don't think

1485
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 6: you can put a motherfucking hip hop tag on somebody

1486
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 6: who you know, you know falls into that category.

1487
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 4: Hisself, didn't he someone I think he said that he's

1488
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 4: not really a hip hop artist no more.

1489
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 6: He think.

1490
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 3: I heard that a lot of people.

1491
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if a lot of people got his

1492
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 6: approach to music because of you know who we came

1493
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 6: in the game with, with Lil Wayne and them and

1494
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 6: Nicki Minaj and all of them, and he was a

1495
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 6: part of the crew.

1496
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,520
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, he's always been a different motherfucker.

1497
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 3: You get me.

1498
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 6: And you can see that if you you know, watch

1499
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 6: the little program.

1500
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: He used to act on.

1501
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 6: You know, he was he was a different motherfucker, you

1502
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 6: get me, and you know he he was able to

1503
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 6: get into this music game and he had a couple

1504
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,480
Speaker 6: of you know, nice good songs that you know, attracted

1505
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 6: the youth.

1506
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 3: You get me.

1507
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 6: Uh, the younger generation really fell in love with him,

1508
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 6: and and he took that route where he could he

1509
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 6: could cater to a lot of the female audience, of

1510
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 6: of of of music. And you know, when you when

1511
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 6: you get that, man, you you out of here. You

1512
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 6: know a lot of some of us, you know, some

1513
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 6: of us just too hardcore for a motherfucker. You get me,

1514
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 6: you know, but some some when it comes to entertainment,

1515
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 6: you get. You get those motherfuckers. You get me, You

1516
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,879
Speaker 6: get those Kendricks, you get those Drakes, you get those

1517
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 6: uh little Oozzi's, you get me. You get those people

1518
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 6: who just they jumped to they jumped the planet Pluto.

1519
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 6: They are not they are not of Earth anymore. You

1520
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 6: get me. And so I don't like to put them

1521
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 6: in the category of you know, I don't know regular

1522
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 6: hip hop, you feel me, I don't.

1523
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 3: I don't put them.

1524
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 6: In a in a rock him category, Big Daddy Kane,

1525
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 6: Ice Cube, Uh.

1526
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 4: Scar real quick, bro, since you got to work with

1527
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 4: a man on Kendricks album, Man, because I know that

1528
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 4: you taking a while to put this one out man,

1529
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 4: and Kendrick is a rapping motherfucker. Shout out at the homeboy, KO,

1530
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 4: I don't knew that motherfucker since he was fifteen. He's

1531
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 4: an incredible artist. Man, do you think it's gonna be even?

1532
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 4: He got a task ahead of him, man, trying to

1533
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 4: come up with another album. Man, this motherfucker don't want

1534
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 4: Politzer Prizes and Grammy's and shit. Though, can you imagine

1535
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 4: the pressure? If any knowing doubt, he probably somewhere just

1536
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 4: chill him right now. How do you think he goes?

1537
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: I bet you he come up with some hardcore shit

1538
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 4: the next album. So I bet you come up with

1539
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 4: some shit that's gonna be crazy.

1540
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 6: He gonna have some songs on there that niggas can't

1541
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 6: even relate to, because, like I said, when you jumped

1542
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 6: to when you jumped to Planet Venus and Pluto and shit,

1543
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 6: and you kind of put yourself on a different plateau.

1544
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of niggas don't understand the

1545
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 6: musical concept, if feel me, And I think a lot

1546
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 6: of niggas who felt that Kendrick belonged to the streets

1547
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 6: or the hoods kind of took them on a different direction.

1548
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 6: And so you got a lot of You got a

1549
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:22,440
Speaker 6: lot of niggas who fell off the Kendrick train because

1550
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 6: they felt that he went to a different you know,

1551
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 6: you know, music or musical I kind of knew that

1552
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 6: from the front when I worked with him. You know,

1553
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 6: it's just niggas who are different. Man, you give me,

1554
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 6: It's just motherfuckers who are different. And people don't understand that,

1555
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 6: especially if you kind of simple nigga. You know, I'm

1556
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 6: a hood nigga. I grew up with that nigga. We

1557
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 6: went to school together. It wasn't even you know, And

1558
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 6: when you reach a certain status and a plateau, some

1559
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 6: niggas kind of not understand, especially when you're saying you

1560
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 6: from coming you hit me.

1561
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 4: He is he always got some eggs to a man.

1562
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed this episode. It's always good just to

1563
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 4: sit up a conversation with your brothers.

1564
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: Man.

1565
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I about you know, chill out, you know

1566
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 3: how I do.

1567
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 6: Holidays is coming, so everybody be safe out there, and

1568
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 6: I just want to.

1569
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about doing a Christmas, very Christmas thing and

1570
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 4: actually bringing some food in and then sit around. I'll

1571
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 4: probably ask short of somebody to come by a tell

1572
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 4: too short to come by something. Man, we actually drinking

1573
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 4: some cognact somewhere, dude, out of a restaurant somewhere.

1574
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 1: What y'all think about that?

1575
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 5: That'd be dope.

1576
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1577
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 4: Especially as when we somewhere just recording, just chilling, man,

1578
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 4: just eating an ate. You get the crack and your jokes,

1579
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 4: because the fans seemed of love when you be tearing me.

1580
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: You see, I ain't got my bag hanging up. Now

1581
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: you made me take my bag down.

1582
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 6: Fans, man, you got you gotta keep on me though

1583
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 6: into a little you know, let the lighter side down, man,

1584
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 6: because you know they be thinking the nigga just be

1585
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 6: ready to pull gats and ready to be you know,

1586
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 6: just hood on the nigga all the time. But you

1587
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 6: know we some normal niggas, man, We can sit up

1588
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 6: and crack jokes and ship. A lot of people seem

1589
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 6: to be uh really really happy with that little air

1590
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,839
Speaker 6: and with my little singing debut.

1591
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 4: Man.

1592
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Man, you know what I'm saying.

1593
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 6: Don't fuck around, man, Real hood niggas know what we

1594
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 6: do it here. Don't play around.

1595
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: You want to get an a be singing next out.

1596
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, doing me some recreations and some classics and ship.

1597
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 3: Don't trip there you go, don't trip.

1598
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Sure, And on that note, y'all make sure y'all gonna

1599
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 1: visit eight site.

1600
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 4: Man.

1601
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: We're getting against the Chronicles.

1602
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 4: Dot Com rebuilt right now, just for them clothes and stuff. Man,

1603
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 4: y'all make sure y'all checked out so and on unique access,

1604
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 4: so on who you have on it this week.

1605
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: Man, I got a.

1606
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 5: Playbon sloan, I got staying the guitar, man, I got

1607
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 5: battle Cat coming up, I got Caviar, I got a

1608
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 5: lot of people.

1609
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 4: Something be going up, getting motherfuckers I can't get.

1610
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, all the motherfucking niggas out there and

1611
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 6: females too, we don't want to take lose sight of, uh,

1612
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 6: the problems and the poverty and the real niggas that's

1613
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 6: in the neighborhoods.

1614
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 3: Shout out to all the niggas out there in the hoods. Still.

1615
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 6: You know it's Christmas time coming up, so you know

1616
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 6: how they can get stay safe politic with your homies, man,

1617
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 6: try to find a safer way out of shit. We

1618
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 6: know niggas beef and niggas got problems, but try to

1619
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 6: find some positive in these neighborhoods and these communities.

1620
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 5: Men.

1621
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 6: I'm how y'all start hitting me up too, so we can,

1622
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 6: you know, figure out, you know, just give shout out

1623
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 6: to niggas who doing positive shit in their neighborhoods as

1624
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 6: far as gogster shit is, you know, because we are

1625
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 6: the gangst the chronicles, man, and we don't want to

1626
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 6: forget about the real gangster the niggas and the real

1627
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 6: niggas that's trying to do something positive out there in

1628
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 6: their neighborhoods. Of course, of course, we know niggas are

1629
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,839
Speaker 6: still warring because like I said, I come from that faction,

1630
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 6: So of course we know niggas beefing and the hoods

1631
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 6: gone war and shit gone whatever. But we need to

1632
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 6: start trying to recognize the positivity in these communities, in

1633
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 6: these neighborhoods, because there's a lot of homies and homegirls

1634
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 6: out there that's trying to do good and bring positive

1635
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 6: notes to they neighborhoods. So on that note, man, y'all

1636
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 6: just stay the fuck up and we're gonna see y'all

1637
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 6: next week.

1638
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 4: Before you go. I know one thing I wanted to

1639
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,799
Speaker 4: do top of the year man. I wanted to get together,

1640
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 4: man and get the kids some book bags. You know,

1641
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 4: kids had the book bags drives where they get book

1642
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 4: bags at to.

1643
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 6: Want to go to go to a couple of you know,

1644
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 6: one of the schools or something hook up with.

1645
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Looking up the actual school man and making sure schools.

1646
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 6: You know, you got paramount out there. I'm Compton. We

1647
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 6: got some ship you know, we know some of these

1648
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 6: what you say, I went to Jordan. I went to

1649
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 6: the meanest I went. You know, I went to Walton

1650
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 6: Junior High School. So we just need to you know,

1651
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 6: we know a couple of uh political people and a

1652
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 6: couple of neighborhood oh geez. So we need to, uh,

1653
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 6: you know, start giving back to the neighborhoods uh as

1654
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 6: much as we can. You know, we we normal motherfuckers,

1655
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 6: you get me. But uh, just to stay positive, man,

1656
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 6: and try to keep shit you know in these in

1657
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 6: these you know, you know how it happens when these

1658
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 6: holidays come in. Niggas get on they click clacks and

1659
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 6: they jackson and whatever they can do to make money.

1660
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 3: So watch your backs out there. You always said you're none,

1661
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: you know.

1662
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 4: Sylvia Nun Yeah, she had hit me up man. So

1663
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about some things off again.

1664
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 6: Sure we don't get it cracking, but y'all know what

1665
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 6: it is against the Chronicles for sure.

1666
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Jill got here. Well.

1667
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,799
Speaker 4: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

1668
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 4: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to

1669
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 4: The Gangst Chronicles podcast. For Apple users, find a purple

1670
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 4: Michael on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show,

1671
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 4: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst

1672
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 4: Chronicles podcast Norman Stell, Aaron M c a Tyler. Our

1673
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 4: visual media director is Brian Whatt, and audio editors tell

1674
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 4: It Hayes. The Gainst Chronicles is a production of iHeartMedia

1675
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,559
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1676
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,839
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