WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Micah for MVP? 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:21.439 Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, Screaming live from the Dallas 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.200 Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:34.720 Streaks, got Pinson touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:39.160 Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.560 It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.240 Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco and 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.080 the SWBC Studios. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.080 Welcome in everybody. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.240 Today we preview the Dallas defense up against the Arizona 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:57.280 Cardinals offense. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.880 Are they ever going to be challenged? Is really the 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:01.920 question today? 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.679 Are they ever going to see a worthy opponent? They 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.720 haven't seen one through the first two weeks of the season. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.959 But we'll talk about that more as we go along. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.880 We've got Isaiah stand Back, Nick Harris, John Machoda, Chris 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:14.520 Beam in the back. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.920 Isaiah, How you doing good? 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.399 How doing I'm good? Good? 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:18.560 Yeah, you're doing all right? 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.280 I'm good man. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:19.800 Yeah. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.520 What are you? 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.080 You're looking at your highlights again over here? 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:23.120 Highlights. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:24.400 You're doing some. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.440 Work work, putting in PFF. You're you're you're getting all 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:29.360 the tabs open. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:30.440 That's all I do. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:31.520 All you do, that's fair. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.320 You don't get to play. All I do is work 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.280 another day, another dog, another couple. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.639 Since you got the button up rocking today. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.800 Yeah, a lot of a lot of shows today. So 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.959 I figured, you know, i'd come out, come out, come 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.959 out worthy. But went to the Dallas Wings game last night. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:46.840 Time. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:48.480 By the way, they're heading to the semi finals. So 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.240 you guys, get out there, get out there to Arlington. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.400 Everybody was there last night. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.680 Yeah, it was loaded last night. There was a lot 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:54.200 of people there. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.240 I went on Friday last week. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:56.760 There we go. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.320 Yeah, so what is the semi final? 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:00.560 Is it? Like at of what? 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.200 Best of five? But they're going against my favorite team, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:03.960 the Aces. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:11.200 So they go Dallas. That was so, so very much 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:12.680 all right. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:18.040 So we talked through really a significant about amount of 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.840 this defense and we're going to preview that the Cardinals 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:25.320 offense in the second segment. But with everything that's been 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.400 going on defensively to this point for the Dallas Cowboys, 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.960 I mean, is have we seen the ceiling yet? 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.240 I mean, have we really gotten to the. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.240 Point where we're looking at this defense and saying Okay, 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.920 that's as good as it's gonna get, and the health 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.400 will takes its toll as a seventeen. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.320 Game season goes on. Or are we just seeing the 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.639 beginning of something that's growing. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.359 I mean, it's kind of hard to think it could 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.240 be better than what it's been the first two weeks. Right, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.480 it's just turn one way I can think, But go ahead, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:54.960 I'm curious. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.480 Go hell, it's play like this. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.120 I'm not saying it's score total, but played defensively like 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.000 this weeks against the Niners, against the Sure takes it 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:02.600 to another. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.640 Level, for sure, I guess more so stacking up what 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.360 they've had to go up against versus you know, the 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.560 product of input on the field. It's it's been hard 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.160 to imagine anything getting better than that. Obviously better competition, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:14.400 for sure, You're right, But yeah, I mean it's the 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.520 all three levels have been playing pretty well. I guess 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.240 you could look at a couple of guys that maybe 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.760 I expected to, you know, have a bigger first couple 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.480 of weeks, like de Mont Clark. You know I expected 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.280 him to be, you know, a double digit tackle guy 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.080 in each week, and he hasn't been. I mean, there's 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:29.880 just there could be a couple of reasons for those 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.880 kind of things, but it would be really nippicking finding 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.080 any negatives in this defense right now. And then with 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.520 Arizona coming up, I think it's just gonna be another 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:38.800 opportunity to feast. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.280 With kind of going to what you said there, I mean, 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.760 d'mont Clark late in Vanderesh, those are names that we 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.960 haven't really talked about a whole lot because, I mean, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.920 the secondary is doing what they're doing with the interceptions, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.080 the takeaways and the coverage. You you look at what 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.240 the front seven, or not even in front seven, but 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.160 just the defensive line in general and what they're doing 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.840 from a pressure standpoint, haven't had to do a whole 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.360 lot because there has been so much success on the 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.440 front end and the back end. The middle of that 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.560 defense really hasn't been super active. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.440 Yeah, and I think that there'll be games where they 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.640 have to have bigger games than they've had so far. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.839 But if you just tell me right now that Damount 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.560 Clark and Leyton vandersh are going to stay healthy all season, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.359 I have no concerns at linebacker at all. It actually 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:23.719 makes me sit there and think of just like what 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.480 it could be if overshow never got hurt, you know, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.520 So Yeah, I never looked at the linebacker corps as 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.680 having to be like these big time playmakers on this team, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.920 just because there's so many playmakers on the back end 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.800 and on the defensive line. But I just if you 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.599 can just tell me the health is there, those linebackers 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.200 are more than good enough to get this team to 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:43.839 where they need to go. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.719 Have you liked what you've seen from LV and Dmoon 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:47.120 so far? 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.039 Yeah, it's been fine. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.839 I mean, when your defensive line is being dominant, you know, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.159 there's not much that you have to do at the 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:52.640 second level. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.359 I mean, we talked about it last week. The Jets. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.000 They're doubleheaded monster that they had at the linebacker position. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.160 These guys are just simply just playing off of the 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.320 guys that are running around like crazy in front of them, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.440 So there hasn't been a lot of demand on them. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.280 I think they probably had the most action last week 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.680 because of their the tempting rushing attack of the Jets, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.240 but that got ship down relatively early. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.039 Yeah, late vand rush was really good in the run 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.760 game on Sunday specifically, So it's it's not not as 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.760 much the whole second level more so just to moon, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.719 you know, I'd like to see him get a double 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.640 digit tackle game and fly across the field like we 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.720 saw in that preseason game against Jacksonville. I felt like 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.200 that was like the most of what his potential could 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.400 look like, just making plays in the backfield, making plays 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.560 and coverage, getting sidelined to sideline. I'd like to see 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:35.320 that a couple of times. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:42.960 And we're not necessarily throwing Michael Parsons into linebacker conversation here, right, He's. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.640 An edge rusher, He's a d the end. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.880 Okay, so that that's not the case. I like your 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.640 nickd night. I read it this morning the you can 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.039 find it on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Michah Micah Parsons 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.880 is making my job hard, is what uh Nick Harris 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.920 wrote about. I mean, tell me why that's the case. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.880 Why is he making it tough? 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:00.080 On? 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.279 Yeah? So you could think of any word in the 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.640 book to describe Michael Parsons, and I'm running out of 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.320 words to use. So it was kind of like an 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.440 exercise of using, you know, different words describe Michael Parsons 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.720 and why why those things apply? So I had a 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.440 little fun with it. It was kind of a funny concept 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:16.200 and I just ran with it. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.000 What would you what would be your one word? 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.560 Just relentless? Okay, yeah, that's my word for him. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.800 Relentless is good. I'm looking at all of them. I'm 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.479 scrolling down. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.240 As we keep rolling, What do you think, what's your 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:27.760 one word? 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.880 H I mean, dominant is the first one that comes 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.800 to mind, but I know it's two words. But coaches 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.640 always love to throw around the term game wrecker, you know, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.160 whether you talk like college football going into a you know, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.360 a big game. Someone's got like a dominant edge rusher 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.440 in the NFL, and I feel like it's thrown around, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.400 probably a little too much. But he is absolutely like 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.000 the definition of what a game wrecker is, especially with 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.320 the way that he can just move around in so 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.080 many different places. It's not like he just dominates from 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.360 one edge. It's just that constant. I mean, the way 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.559 he's sitting there doing like juke moves at the line 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.040 over the center and over guards like you think I'm. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:05.680 Coming, maybe I'm not. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.120 Maybe I'm coming, I'm not, and then he just like 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.960 blows by them, like I don't know. There's just not 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.000 a lot of comparisons to what he's done, but I 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.600 still think he can go to another level too. To 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.640 be honest with you, again, make those same plays against 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.000 you know, the Niners in some of those bigger games. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.640 I mean, he has the potential to be a guy 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.360 that does some of that stuff and almost single handly 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:27.320 wins you a playoff game. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.239 I do think he's on that type of a level. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:30.800 So again, just like I. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.760 Said about Damoon Clark and Lane vander ash not to 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.280 beat this to death, but just if he stays healthy, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:36.480 everything will take care of himself with. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.760 Him, Yeah, it will all work out. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.520 Here are the words that Nick threw out here and 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.560 tell me so the column serves as an exercise, so 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.240 that way he doesn't end up or that way Nick 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:49.040 doesn't end up. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.800 On the wrong side of Michael Parson's impact. You know, 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.040 that was kind of the way you set it up. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:08:02.440 Disruptive, electrifying, captivating, generational, and then I saw you sneak 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:03.800 that one in at the end and more. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.920 Yeah, that's that's the one he has left to accomplish. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.440 That's the one word in the bag that he does 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.760 not quite have yet. A Super Bowl ring would would 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.960 kind of give him that title. A Super Bowl MVP, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:13.840 So that's that's kind of how that led. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.920 Into would you say generational is still? 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.080 No, I don't think so, just because I've spoke in 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.120 that paragraph to what John just said about how he 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.880 could single handedly win a playoff game. What was the 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.400 last time the Cowboys had a guy like that? 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.320 Where Yeah, Dowear probably, and that's a Hall of Famer. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.160 So yeah, so like once every ten years type type 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.120 talent is Would you consider that generational? That's kind of 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.679 how I think about That's how I thought about it, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.000 And I thought it was a little heavy when I 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.240 put it on the paper, but I was like, nah, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.000 I mean it is. It's It's truly right. He's a 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:41.680 guy that can go in a game and single handedly 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.679 change it himself and impact all twenty two players on 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.400 the field. There's not many people in football that could 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:46.679 do that. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.680 Is there anything else that you want to see from Micah? 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.760 Like at this point in the season, two games in, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.920 do you want to see anything else? What else can 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.400 he get to? What else can he go to other 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.000 than of course increase his sack total and increasing pressures 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.920 and just doing more of what he's doing. But what 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.800 else do you want to see from him. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.240 If I had to say anything, I would just be 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.160 able to drop out in coverage. I think the linebacker 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.840 ESH type type characteristics simply just from a standpoint of 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.000 right now, they can't really can because of how smart 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.040 dan Quinn is. But if dan Quinn did want to 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.200 mix things up and drop him off into coverage, he 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.560 has that ability to. That's not to say that he 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.880 can't right now, but I don't think that Michael Parsons 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.600 is great out in space by himself, So I think 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.800 that'd be one aspect of his game if he needed 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.760 to add something to his arsenal, that'd be the one 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:36.440 that I would point out. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:37.719 That was the first thing I was going to say, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.840 was just the The only thing he's really missing from 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.079 the stack column is that he hasn't had an interception yet. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.560 And to your point, yeah, playing out there, because the 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.520 one play that stands out to me would be last 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.880 year up in New York when he I think was 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.959 on a third down in the red zone and he 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.080 dropped off and picked up Kenny Galladay on a throw 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.360 that he ended up it end up being incomplete, but 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.000 he was in good position and all that. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.920 But I feel like there would be more of those opportunities. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.720 But I think he's even exceeded everybody in this buildings 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.680 expectations on the pass rush side. I mean not just Billity, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.480 everybody in everybody in Happy Valley must be too because 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:12.719 of the. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.640 Fact that he wasn't doing all of this there. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.880 So no, I just I think that I think that 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.240 he is certainly capable of doing that. I just don't 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:23.880 know if they even want to put him in that 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.880 many positions right now, just because he's doing so much 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:30.480 disruption within I don't know, two seconds at the on 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:31.000 the line. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.559 So yeah, we illustrated that with the one and a 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.800 half seconds last wee week just start stop, starts, tup. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.840 I mean, the way that he gets in the backfield 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:39.599 is tremendous. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.920 You wrote another article Nick, by the way, I mean 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.760 Nick just writes articles like crazy, but it was it 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.760 was about what Dan Quinn said that you haven't seen 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:48.920 at all from Parsons yet. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.720 You haven't seen exactly what his ceiling looks like. And 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.040 I think, of. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.120 Course, hearing that from from anybody is like, okay, like 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.960 Mike is doing those types of things like we've probably 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:00.840 seen in the ceiling. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.200 But then it's Dan Quinn saying it, it's like, Okay, 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.240 now I kind of believe you. I kind of think 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:06.800 this is a legitimate thing. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.080 I mean, go through what exactly he said and how 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.800 he's trying to utilize Micah in those ways. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:13.640 Yeah, thinking back to trying to think back to what 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.640 exactly he said, but I think it was more so 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.520 in line with the training that he got over the 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.240 offseason and how much it's already been translated to the field, 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.199 and the fact that he hasn't even had only more 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.559 than two games to show what he's improved on over 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.440 the offseason. With speed. Training was a big part of 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.120 his off season. Boxing was a huge part. I mean, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.800 he's gotten a lot of guys on the defensive line 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.440 involved in that area as well, So whether it be power, speed, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.880 body training as well, just getting more physical but also 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.480 staying lean, all of those things have played in a 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.240 big factor into him coming out in these first two 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.120 games and looking like the game record that he is. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.240 I mean, you can see the step forward that he's taken, 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.800 and you could see it in Oxnard when we were 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.920 out there. It was immediate. So yeah, I think we're 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.720 going to have more than thirteen sacks from Michael Parsons 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.200 this year, so that would be more than he's gotten 0:11:59.240 --> 0:11:59.920 in each of his first two. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:04.000 It's always interesting how people that I really respect that 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.800 either played the game or coach the game, anytime there's 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.040 like a really dominant pass rusher, everyone's kind of shy about, like, 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:12.319 all right, he's really good. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.400 Don't don't say that. Don't say the Lawrence Taylor thing. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.160 Don't I mean, we don't. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.320 Nobody should ever go there, you know, and uh, that's 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.280 that to me, would be would be the ultimate step 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.240 for him, as if people were just not even shying 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.240 away from Romo mentioned it on the broadcast, you know, 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.000 but even you know when he said, it's like, you know, 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.120 that would be that's like the you know, you don't 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.280 you don't want to mention that because people it's just 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:32.840 like he's on such a level. It's almost like with 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.760 the comparing any NBA player to Jordan, you're just like, yeah, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.120 I don't know, like I don't know if I want 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.360 to do that, but that that'll be. That'll be interesting 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:41.840 to see if he ever gets to that point where 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.320 everyone's just like, oh, yeah, no, he's he's he's like 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.800 Lawrence Taylor of this of this generation. He certainly has 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.440 the ability to get to that level, but you obviously 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.520 have to play for a long time, and like you 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.199 mentioned Super Bowl when you know, probably multiple defensive players 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.000 year probably have to be in an MVP conversation. So 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.160 I mean, it's a lot, But I only say that 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.199 because he does. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.959 Have just such rare, rare potential. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.480 And we're in an era right now with so many 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.839 elite pass rushers. It feels like we haven't had this 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.800 many elite edge guys in a while, at least in 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.240 my lifetime. When you look at the bosas TJ. Watt, Micah, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.280 I mean, all these guys are in the upper echelon, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.720 and it's crazy to look at a talent like Micah 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.440 like we have over the course of the last three 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.840 months and know that there are probably three, four or 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.679 five other guys that could compete with him on a 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.920 week tweek basis, which is just crazy to say. So 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.680 I guess first thing would be first is to go 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.320 ahead and notch a Defensive Player of the Year before 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.280 Lawrence Taylor discussions start coming around. But that would be 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.960 like one final stone and what he's got going on 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:39.439 early on. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.000 See, and that's the thing that's wild. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.280 Is that not just Cowboys media is having this conversation though, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.720 I mean it's national. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.120 Media that's happening. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.280 I mean, I'm looking at an article here from Pro 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.400 Football Talk and they say, Micah park this is the headline, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.600 Michah Parsons could be first defensive MVP since Lawrence Taylor 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.560 nineteen eighty six was the last time a defensive MVP 0:13:59.120 --> 0:13:59.559 was named. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.960 I thought Jay Ja won one. Okay. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.480 I mean there's some with the Cowboys that nationally overrates 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.440 things and it also can be beaten a death that 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.480 doesn't need to be beat Yeah, no doubt. I liked 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.120 to Being from Michigan. I like to give it the 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.920 Lions thing. I always I always compare things to the Lions, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.960 and it's just because they're so opposite organizations in terms 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.480 of you have to be Barry Sanders or Calvin Johnson 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:23.040 again the level. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.600 But so I use this as if. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.360 Michael Parsons with the Lions, he's being talked about as 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.680 much as he is right now, and this is not 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.320 a Cowboys only thing. He is playing on that type 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.680 of a level where you if you're not talking about 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.280 him nationally, then you're probably not doing your job because 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.360 of just the things he's doing. It's not like you 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.360 can sit there and say, oh, this looks exactly like 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.800 this guy, or this looks like just something like it's 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.360 pretty rare what he's and and here's everything, like he 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.680 hasn't won the Defensive Player Year, but these are runner 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.200 ups the last two years. It's not like you're just like, oh, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.440 this is a third breakout season. It seems like he's 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.800 really No, he's had really good seasons. Yes, did he 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.720 not win Defensive Player of the yearor no, but even 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.000 be runner up two years in a row, and then 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.480 going to this third year, I'd be shocked if he 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.120 doesn't get it. And even if he doesn't, he probably 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.000 will be second or third. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:02.400 Word. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.520 Yeah, So it's not like this is just some coming out. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.440 Of nowhere thing. He's been doing this now like oh 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.840 wait till everybody gets tape on him. No, everybody has 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.520 the tape on him, and there's really no answer for 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:11.000 him right now. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.960 Can he win the MVP Award, and I'm not talking 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.080 Defensive Player of the Year, that's of course within reach, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.760 well within reach at some point in Michael Parsons's career. 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.320 But if he continues on the trajectory that he's on 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.040 right now. Can he be that? Can he be an 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.080 MVP Award winner? 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.960 I don't see why not you give MVP. You give 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.200 MVP to guys that are just dominant, That's what I mean. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.320 I mean, I know it's a quarterback awards supposedly, but 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.600 if you're dominant twenty thirteen, Yeah, if you're a dominant 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.680 then you deserve it. I mean, I truly believe that. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.200 I think there's been some dominant performances from quarterbacks, obviously 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.160 because of the amount of times they touched the ball, right, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.560 Patrick Mahomes saying, you know pretty much in that Cindgor 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.680 every year. But Michael Parsons, he just destroys your game plan. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.560 So if he's able to continue this, which I mean 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.800 is a very long season and we got with fifteen 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.960 more games, so he has to to sustain this for 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.200 the rest of the year. And it makes it really 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.920 really difficult for a defensive player to win because if 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.520