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Speaker 3: Today we preview the Dallas defense up against the Arizona
Speaker 3: Cardinals offense.
Speaker 4: Are they ever going to be challenged? Is really the
Speaker 4: question today?
Speaker 3: Are they ever going to see a worthy opponent? They
Speaker 3: haven't seen one through the first two weeks of the season.
Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that more as we go along.
Speaker 3: We've got Isaiah stand Back, Nick Harris, John Machoda, Chris
Speaker 3: Beam in the back.
Speaker 4: Isaiah, How you doing good?
Speaker 5: How doing I'm good? Good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're doing all right?
Speaker 5: I'm good man.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What are you?
Speaker 4: You're looking at your highlights again over here?
Speaker 5: Highlights.
Speaker 4: You're doing some.
Speaker 3: Work work, putting in PFF. You're you're you're getting all
Speaker 3: the tabs open.
Speaker 5: That's all I do.
Speaker 4: All you do, that's fair.
Speaker 5: You don't get to play. All I do is work
Speaker 5: another day, another dog, another couple.
Speaker 4: Since you got the button up rocking today.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of a lot of shows today. So
Speaker 6: I figured, you know, i'd come out, come out, come
Speaker 6: out worthy. But went to the Dallas Wings game last night.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 6: By the way, they're heading to the semi finals. So
Speaker 6: you guys, get out there, get out there to Arlington.
Speaker 5: Everybody was there last night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was loaded last night. There was a lot
Speaker 6: of people there.
Speaker 5: I went on Friday last week.
Speaker 6: There we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what is the semi final?
Speaker 5: Is it? Like at of what?
Speaker 6: Best of five? But they're going against my favorite team,
Speaker 6: the Aces.
Speaker 4: So they go Dallas. That was so, so very much
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 3: So we talked through really a significant about amount of
Speaker 3: this defense and we're going to preview that the Cardinals
Speaker 3: offense in the second segment. But with everything that's been
Speaker 3: going on defensively to this point for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 3: I mean, is have we seen the ceiling yet?
Speaker 4: I mean, have we really gotten to the.
Speaker 3: Point where we're looking at this defense and saying Okay,
Speaker 3: that's as good as it's gonna get, and the health
Speaker 3: will takes its toll as a seventeen.
Speaker 4: Game season goes on. Or are we just seeing the
Speaker 4: beginning of something that's growing.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of hard to think it could
Speaker 6: be better than what it's been the first two weeks. Right,
Speaker 6: it's just turn one way I can think, But go ahead,
Speaker 6: I'm curious.
Speaker 7: Go hell, it's play like this.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying it's score total, but played defensively like
Speaker 8: this weeks against the Niners, against the Sure takes it
Speaker 8: to another.
Speaker 6: Level, for sure, I guess more so stacking up what
Speaker 6: they've had to go up against versus you know, the
Speaker 6: product of input on the field. It's it's been hard
Speaker 6: to imagine anything getting better than that. Obviously better competition,
Speaker 6: for sure, You're right, But yeah, I mean it's the
Speaker 6: all three levels have been playing pretty well. I guess
Speaker 6: you could look at a couple of guys that maybe
Speaker 6: I expected to, you know, have a bigger first couple
Speaker 6: of weeks, like de Mont Clark. You know I expected
Speaker 6: him to be, you know, a double digit tackle guy
Speaker 6: in each week, and he hasn't been. I mean, there's
Speaker 6: just there could be a couple of reasons for those
Speaker 6: kind of things, but it would be really nippicking finding
Speaker 6: any negatives in this defense right now. And then with
Speaker 6: Arizona coming up, I think it's just gonna be another
Speaker 6: opportunity to feast.
Speaker 3: With kind of going to what you said there, I mean,
Speaker 3: d'mont Clark late in Vanderesh, those are names that we
Speaker 3: haven't really talked about a whole lot because, I mean,
Speaker 3: the secondary is doing what they're doing with the interceptions,
Speaker 3: the takeaways and the coverage. You you look at what
Speaker 3: the front seven, or not even in front seven, but
Speaker 3: just the defensive line in general and what they're doing
Speaker 3: from a pressure standpoint, haven't had to do a whole
Speaker 3: lot because there has been so much success on the
Speaker 3: front end and the back end. The middle of that
Speaker 3: defense really hasn't been super active.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think that there'll be games where they
Speaker 8: have to have bigger games than they've had so far.
Speaker 8: But if you just tell me right now that Damount
Speaker 8: Clark and Leyton vandersh are going to stay healthy all season,
Speaker 8: I have no concerns at linebacker at all. It actually
Speaker 8: makes me sit there and think of just like what
Speaker 8: it could be if overshow never got hurt, you know,
Speaker 8: So Yeah, I never looked at the linebacker corps as
Speaker 8: having to be like these big time playmakers on this team,
Speaker 8: just because there's so many playmakers on the back end
Speaker 8: and on the defensive line. But I just if you
Speaker 8: can just tell me the health is there, those linebackers
Speaker 8: are more than good enough to get this team to
Speaker 8: where they need to go.
Speaker 4: Have you liked what you've seen from LV and Dmoon
Speaker 4: so far?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been fine.
Speaker 9: I mean, when your defensive line is being dominant, you know,
Speaker 9: there's not much that you have to do at the
Speaker 9: second level.
Speaker 5: I mean, we talked about it last week. The Jets.
Speaker 9: They're doubleheaded monster that they had at the linebacker position.
Speaker 9: These guys are just simply just playing off of the
Speaker 9: guys that are running around like crazy in front of them,
Speaker 9: So there hasn't been a lot of demand on them.
Speaker 9: I think they probably had the most action last week
Speaker 9: because of their the tempting rushing attack of the Jets,
Speaker 9: but that got ship down relatively early.
Speaker 6: Yeah, late vand rush was really good in the run
Speaker 6: game on Sunday specifically, So it's it's not not as
Speaker 6: much the whole second level more so just to moon,
Speaker 6: you know, I'd like to see him get a double
Speaker 6: digit tackle game and fly across the field like we
Speaker 6: saw in that preseason game against Jacksonville. I felt like
Speaker 6: that was like the most of what his potential could
Speaker 6: look like, just making plays in the backfield, making plays
Speaker 6: and coverage, getting sidelined to sideline. I'd like to see
Speaker 6: that a couple of times.
Speaker 3: And we're not necessarily throwing Michael Parsons into linebacker conversation here, right, He's.
Speaker 6: An edge rusher, He's a d the end.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that that's not the case. I like your
Speaker 3: nickd night. I read it this morning the you can
Speaker 3: find it on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Michah Micah Parsons
Speaker 3: is making my job hard, is what uh Nick Harris
Speaker 3: wrote about. I mean, tell me why that's the case.
Speaker 3: Why is he making it tough?
Speaker 4: On?
Speaker 6: Yeah? So you could think of any word in the
Speaker 6: book to describe Michael Parsons, and I'm running out of
Speaker 6: words to use. So it was kind of like an
Speaker 6: exercise of using, you know, different words describe Michael Parsons
Speaker 6: and why why those things apply? So I had a
Speaker 6: little fun with it. It was kind of a funny concept
Speaker 6: and I just ran with it.
Speaker 4: What would you what would be your one word?
Speaker 5: Just relentless? Okay, yeah, that's my word for him.
Speaker 4: Relentless is good. I'm looking at all of them. I'm
Speaker 4: scrolling down.
Speaker 3: As we keep rolling, What do you think, what's your
Speaker 3: one word?
Speaker 8: H I mean, dominant is the first one that comes
Speaker 8: to mind, but I know it's two words. But coaches
Speaker 8: always love to throw around the term game wrecker, you know,
Speaker 8: whether you talk like college football going into a you know,
Speaker 8: a big game. Someone's got like a dominant edge rusher
Speaker 8: in the NFL, and I feel like it's thrown around,
Speaker 8: probably a little too much. But he is absolutely like
Speaker 8: the definition of what a game wrecker is, especially with
Speaker 8: the way that he can just move around in so
Speaker 8: many different places. It's not like he just dominates from
Speaker 8: one edge. It's just that constant. I mean, the way
Speaker 8: he's sitting there doing like juke moves at the line
Speaker 8: over the center and over guards like you think I'm.
Speaker 5: Coming, maybe I'm not.
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm coming, I'm not, and then he just like
Speaker 8: blows by them, like I don't know. There's just not
Speaker 8: a lot of comparisons to what he's done, but I
Speaker 8: still think he can go to another level too. To
Speaker 8: be honest with you, again, make those same plays against
Speaker 8: you know, the Niners in some of those bigger games.
Speaker 8: I mean, he has the potential to be a guy
Speaker 8: that does some of that stuff and almost single handly
Speaker 8: wins you a playoff game.
Speaker 7: I do think he's on that type of a level.
Speaker 7: So again, just like I.
Speaker 8: Said about Damoon Clark and Lane vander ash not to
Speaker 8: beat this to death, but just if he stays healthy,
Speaker 8: everything will take care of himself with.
Speaker 5: Him, Yeah, it will all work out.
Speaker 3: Here are the words that Nick threw out here and
Speaker 3: tell me so the column serves as an exercise, so
Speaker 3: that way he doesn't end up or that way Nick
Speaker 3: doesn't end up.
Speaker 4: On the wrong side of Michael Parson's impact. You know,
Speaker 4: that was kind of the way you set it up.
Speaker 3: Disruptive, electrifying, captivating, generational, and then I saw you sneak
Speaker 3: that one in at the end and more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the one he has left to accomplish.
Speaker 6: That's the one word in the bag that he does
Speaker 6: not quite have yet. A Super Bowl ring would would
Speaker 6: kind of give him that title. A Super Bowl MVP,
Speaker 6: So that's that's kind of how that led.
Speaker 4: Into would you say generational is still?
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so, just because I've spoke in
Speaker 6: that paragraph to what John just said about how he
Speaker 6: could single handedly win a playoff game. What was the
Speaker 6: last time the Cowboys had a guy like that?
Speaker 4: Where Yeah, Dowear probably, and that's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so like once every ten years type type
Speaker 6: talent is Would you consider that generational? That's kind of
Speaker 6: how I think about That's how I thought about it,
Speaker 6: And I thought it was a little heavy when I
Speaker 6: put it on the paper, but I was like, nah,
Speaker 6: I mean it is. It's It's truly right. He's a
Speaker 6: guy that can go in a game and single handedly
Speaker 6: change it himself and impact all twenty two players on
Speaker 6: the field. There's not many people in football that could
Speaker 6: do that.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else that you want to see from Micah?
Speaker 3: Like at this point in the season, two games in,
Speaker 3: do you want to see anything else? What else can
Speaker 3: he get to? What else can he go to other
Speaker 3: than of course increase his sack total and increasing pressures
Speaker 3: and just doing more of what he's doing. But what
Speaker 3: else do you want to see from him.
Speaker 9: If I had to say anything, I would just be
Speaker 9: able to drop out in coverage. I think the linebacker
Speaker 9: ESH type type characteristics simply just from a standpoint of
Speaker 9: right now, they can't really can because of how smart
Speaker 9: dan Quinn is. But if dan Quinn did want to
Speaker 9: mix things up and drop him off into coverage, he
Speaker 9: has that ability to. That's not to say that he
Speaker 9: can't right now, but I don't think that Michael Parsons
Speaker 9: is great out in space by himself, So I think
Speaker 9: that'd be one aspect of his game if he needed
Speaker 9: to add something to his arsenal, that'd be the one
Speaker 9: that I would point out.
Speaker 8: That was the first thing I was going to say,
Speaker 8: was just the The only thing he's really missing from
Speaker 8: the stack column is that he hasn't had an interception yet.
Speaker 8: And to your point, yeah, playing out there, because the
Speaker 8: one play that stands out to me would be last
Speaker 8: year up in New York when he I think was
Speaker 8: on a third down in the red zone and he
Speaker 8: dropped off and picked up Kenny Galladay on a throw
Speaker 8: that he ended up it end up being incomplete, but
Speaker 8: he was in good position and all that.
Speaker 7: But I feel like there would be more of those opportunities.
Speaker 8: But I think he's even exceeded everybody in this buildings
Speaker 8: expectations on the pass rush side. I mean not just Billity,
Speaker 8: everybody in everybody in Happy Valley must be too because
Speaker 8: of the.
Speaker 7: Fact that he wasn't doing all of this there.
Speaker 8: So no, I just I think that I think that
Speaker 8: he is certainly capable of doing that. I just don't
Speaker 8: know if they even want to put him in that
Speaker 8: many positions right now, just because he's doing so much
Speaker 8: disruption within I don't know, two seconds at the on
Speaker 8: the line.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we illustrated that with the one and a
Speaker 3: half seconds last wee week just start stop, starts, tup.
Speaker 4: I mean, the way that he gets in the backfield
Speaker 4: is tremendous.
Speaker 3: You wrote another article Nick, by the way, I mean
Speaker 3: Nick just writes articles like crazy, but it was it
Speaker 3: was about what Dan Quinn said that you haven't seen
Speaker 3: at all from Parsons yet.
Speaker 4: You haven't seen exactly what his ceiling looks like. And
Speaker 4: I think, of.
Speaker 3: Course, hearing that from from anybody is like, okay, like
Speaker 3: Mike is doing those types of things like we've probably
Speaker 3: seen in the ceiling.
Speaker 4: But then it's Dan Quinn saying it, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: now I kind of believe you. I kind of think
Speaker 4: this is a legitimate thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, go through what exactly he said and how
Speaker 3: he's trying to utilize Micah in those ways.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thinking back to trying to think back to what
Speaker 6: exactly he said, but I think it was more so
Speaker 6: in line with the training that he got over the
Speaker 6: offseason and how much it's already been translated to the field,
Speaker 6: and the fact that he hasn't even had only more
Speaker 6: than two games to show what he's improved on over
Speaker 6: the offseason. With speed. Training was a big part of
Speaker 6: his off season. Boxing was a huge part. I mean,
Speaker 6: he's gotten a lot of guys on the defensive line
Speaker 6: involved in that area as well, So whether it be power, speed,
Speaker 6: body training as well, just getting more physical but also
Speaker 6: staying lean, all of those things have played in a
Speaker 6: big factor into him coming out in these first two
Speaker 6: games and looking like the game record that he is.
Speaker 6: I mean, you can see the step forward that he's taken,
Speaker 6: and you could see it in Oxnard when we were
Speaker 6: out there. It was immediate. So yeah, I think we're
Speaker 6: going to have more than thirteen sacks from Michael Parsons
Speaker 6: this year, so that would be more than he's gotten
Speaker 6: in each of his first two.
Speaker 8: It's always interesting how people that I really respect that
Speaker 8: either played the game or coach the game, anytime there's
Speaker 8: like a really dominant pass rusher, everyone's kind of shy about, like,
Speaker 8: all right, he's really good.
Speaker 7: Don't don't say that. Don't say the Lawrence Taylor thing.
Speaker 4: Don't I mean, we don't.
Speaker 8: Nobody should ever go there, you know, and uh, that's
Speaker 8: that to me, would be would be the ultimate step
Speaker 8: for him, as if people were just not even shying
Speaker 8: away from Romo mentioned it on the broadcast, you know,
Speaker 8: but even you know when he said, it's like, you know,
Speaker 8: that would be that's like the you know, you don't
Speaker 8: you don't want to mention that because people it's just
Speaker 8: like he's on such a level. It's almost like with
Speaker 8: the comparing any NBA player to Jordan, you're just like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I don't know, like I don't know if I want
Speaker 8: to do that, but that that'll be. That'll be interesting
Speaker 8: to see if he ever gets to that point where
Speaker 8: everyone's just like, oh, yeah, no, he's he's he's like
Speaker 8: Lawrence Taylor of this of this generation. He certainly has
Speaker 8: the ability to get to that level, but you obviously
Speaker 8: have to play for a long time, and like you
Speaker 8: mentioned Super Bowl when you know, probably multiple defensive players
Speaker 8: year probably have to be in an MVP conversation. So
Speaker 8: I mean, it's a lot, But I only say that
Speaker 8: because he does.
Speaker 7: Have just such rare, rare potential.
Speaker 6: And we're in an era right now with so many
Speaker 6: elite pass rushers. It feels like we haven't had this
Speaker 6: many elite edge guys in a while, at least in
Speaker 6: my lifetime. When you look at the bosas TJ. Watt, Micah,
Speaker 6: I mean, all these guys are in the upper echelon,
Speaker 6: and it's crazy to look at a talent like Micah
Speaker 6: like we have over the course of the last three
Speaker 6: months and know that there are probably three, four or
Speaker 6: five other guys that could compete with him on a
Speaker 6: week tweek basis, which is just crazy to say. So
Speaker 6: I guess first thing would be first is to go
Speaker 6: ahead and notch a Defensive Player of the Year before
Speaker 6: Lawrence Taylor discussions start coming around. But that would be
Speaker 6: like one final stone and what he's got going on
Speaker 6: early on.
Speaker 4: See, and that's the thing that's wild.
Speaker 3: Is that not just Cowboys media is having this conversation though,
Speaker 3: I mean it's national.
Speaker 4: Media that's happening.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at an article here from Pro
Speaker 3: Football Talk and they say, Micah park this is the headline,
Speaker 3: Michah Parsons could be first defensive MVP since Lawrence Taylor
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six was the last time a defensive MVP
Speaker 3: was named.
Speaker 6: I thought Jay Ja won one. Okay.
Speaker 8: I mean there's some with the Cowboys that nationally overrates
Speaker 8: things and it also can be beaten a death that
Speaker 8: doesn't need to be beat Yeah, no doubt. I liked
Speaker 8: to Being from Michigan. I like to give it the
Speaker 8: Lions thing. I always I always compare things to the Lions,
Speaker 8: and it's just because they're so opposite organizations in terms
Speaker 8: of you have to be Barry Sanders or Calvin Johnson
Speaker 8: again the level.
Speaker 7: But so I use this as if.
Speaker 8: Michael Parsons with the Lions, he's being talked about as
Speaker 8: much as he is right now, and this is not
Speaker 8: a Cowboys only thing. He is playing on that type
Speaker 8: of a level where you if you're not talking about
Speaker 8: him nationally, then you're probably not doing your job because
Speaker 8: of just the things he's doing. It's not like you
Speaker 8: can sit there and say, oh, this looks exactly like
Speaker 8: this guy, or this looks like just something like it's
Speaker 8: pretty rare what he's and and here's everything, like he
Speaker 8: hasn't won the Defensive Player Year, but these are runner
Speaker 8: ups the last two years. It's not like you're just like, oh,
Speaker 8: this is a third breakout season. It seems like he's
Speaker 8: really No, he's had really good seasons. Yes, did he
Speaker 8: not win Defensive Player of the yearor no, but even
Speaker 8: be runner up two years in a row, and then
Speaker 8: going to this third year, I'd be shocked if he
Speaker 8: doesn't get it. And even if he doesn't, he probably
Speaker 8: will be second or third.
Speaker 5: Word.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So it's not like this is just some coming out.
Speaker 8: Of nowhere thing. He's been doing this now like oh
Speaker 8: wait till everybody gets tape on him. No, everybody has
Speaker 8: the tape on him, and there's really no answer for
Speaker 8: him right now.
Speaker 3: Can he win the MVP Award, and I'm not talking
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, that's of course within reach,
Speaker 3: well within reach at some point in Michael Parsons's career.
Speaker 3: But if he continues on the trajectory that he's on
Speaker 3: right now. Can he be that? Can he be an
Speaker 3: MVP Award winner?
Speaker 9: I don't see why not you give MVP. You give
Speaker 9: MVP to guys that are just dominant, That's what I mean.
Speaker 9: I mean, I know it's a quarterback awards supposedly, but
Speaker 9: if you're dominant twenty thirteen, Yeah, if you're a dominant
Speaker 9: then you deserve it. I mean, I truly believe that.
Speaker 9: I think there's been some dominant performances from quarterbacks, obviously
Speaker 9: because of the amount of times they touched the ball, right,
Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes saying, you know pretty much in that Cindgor
Speaker 9: every year. But Michael Parsons, he just destroys your game plan.
Speaker 9: So if he's able to continue this, which I mean
Speaker 9: is a very long season and we got with fifteen
Speaker 9: more games, so he has to to sustain this for
Speaker 9: the rest of the year. And it makes it really
Speaker 9: really difficult for a defensive player to win because if
Speaker 9: you have one or two off games, it throws off
Speaker 9: your numbers. So drastically versus, if you're a quarterback, you
Speaker 9: can have a you know, a couple four of your
Speaker 9: passing games and all of a sudden, you know, you're
Speaker 9: right back to the top. So it makes it difficult
Speaker 9: from that regard, just because you know you're playing those
Speaker 9: guys had what forty forty somewhat snaps. He had two
Speaker 9: sacks and however many pressures. So when they start looking
Speaker 9: at the percentages of plays that he affected, you know,
Speaker 9: it just is skewed.
Speaker 5: Is skewed towards offense.
Speaker 8: I think it would be tough for him to get
Speaker 8: in that conversation without the Cowboys having the best record
Speaker 8: in the NFC. I mean, it's a regular season award,
Speaker 8: so I think that would have to be where you started.
Speaker 8: They have to be the one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 8: And then the other part of it is is you
Speaker 8: kind of need those other you know, Mahomes and Burrow
Speaker 8: and some of those other quarterbacks just have I mean,
Speaker 8: they're going to have good years, but just not have
Speaker 8: anything crazy. Because if they have one of those has
Speaker 8: like a crazy season, like Joe Burrow bounces back from
Speaker 8: this start and has just this you know, outstanding season,
Speaker 8: it's not probably fair, but it probably will go to
Speaker 8: another quarterback.
Speaker 3: But the only two active players that have won the
Speaker 3: MVP Award are Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: It was the only two because Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Of course he's won four of those things, but uh,
Speaker 3: he's he's out for the year.
Speaker 5: Yeah four ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what were we gonna say?
Speaker 9: He's Aaron Rodgers is absolutely ridiculous. It's just funny how
Speaker 9: people don't put enough respect on him because they just
Speaker 9: don't care for his personal aspect.
Speaker 5: But he's a dog.
Speaker 9: But I was laughing at at Tyreek Hill and him
Speaker 9: kind of trolling Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5: Yelse that Michael.
Speaker 9: So they're talking back and forth. I guess on Micah's
Speaker 9: podcast that he has or whatever he does on the side.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 9: He was talking about how Tyreek Hill said that you know,
Speaker 9: I don't know, man, I might not be a Cheatah,
Speaker 9: I might be a lion, and Mike had told him, well,
Speaker 9: you know, you might want to stay with that cheatah
Speaker 9: stuff and you'll be a cub over here. Tyre Hill
Speaker 9: posted a video of him having a seal block on
Speaker 9: the edge. I guess the defensit in for of New
Speaker 9: England Patriots and Tyreek Hill said this is how MA
Speaker 9: do Micah and Chris Jones.
Speaker 5: I'm just too much on that edge.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's another guy that he can he can
Speaker 8: say every once because he backs it up everything day.
Speaker 7: So I do I enjoy stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: His everybody tried to get on him in the in
Speaker 3: the training camp. Yeah, whenever he was saying that he
Speaker 3: was doing film work on Madden instead.
Speaker 4: Of actually watching Yea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, all right, Tyreek Hill, you can do that,
Speaker 3: but any of you other young receivers you cannot do that, Like,
Speaker 3: do not do that.
Speaker 8: It's funny to me, just because not to get too
Speaker 8: far off topic, but it's just funny because I thought
Speaker 8: him and Hoomes together were what made both of them
Speaker 8: to that to the level that they were, and then
Speaker 8: to see them both separate and both stay on that
Speaker 8: incredible level, uh, in a way.
Speaker 7: Make sure you just kind of wish like they would
Speaker 7: have still together.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with them splitting up. I think it's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm good keep.
Speaker 3: Both of them in the AFC too, because that certainly helps. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor last one to win it on the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the football. Michael Parsons, I think if there
Speaker 3: was a year to do it. That's kind of going
Speaker 3: back to what I was just saying, only two guys
Speaker 3: that are active currently of won MVP awards.
Speaker 4: If there was a year to do it, it would be
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 5: It would be the.
Speaker 3: Year where there's no Tom Brady, there's no Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 3: there's no Peyton Manning. Yes, you do have Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 3: who's one and one to start, Joe Burrow zero and
Speaker 3: two to start. Josh Allen doesn't look like he could
Speaker 3: even be in that conversation, at least through the first
Speaker 3: two weeks of the season. I mean, there's ways that
Speaker 3: he can sneak up there, but he's got to continue
Speaker 3: the dominance through all seventeen games this season.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you were going to show off the graphic.
Speaker 8: The other thing that helps you, speaking of the Tyreek
Speaker 8: Kill thing is that Patrick Mahomes is there.
Speaker 4: It is maybe I'm not a cheetah, I'm a lion.
Speaker 3: That was Tyreek Hill, and Michael Parson says, stick to
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Speaker 5: You'd be a cup.
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Speaker 8: Mahomes also doesn't have the weapons that he's had in
Speaker 8: previous years, so maybe that'll hurt his numbers a little bit.
Speaker 7: He's still Mahomes.
Speaker 8: You know, he's to me, still the best player in
Speaker 8: the league, but the weapons around him aren't his great.
Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like every year they've gone down
Speaker 8: a little bit, so maybe still makes it up.
Speaker 6: He would need like a four SAT game at some point.
Speaker 6: He would need like one of those like Heisman moments.
Speaker 9: So so Mooch on coach Mooch on NFL Network made
Speaker 9: a comment I believe it was yesterday, and I totally
Speaker 9: agree with him, and it might be something we had
Speaker 9: to take into another segment, but it was a conversation
Speaker 9: regarding sacks versus pressures, which one is more important, and
Speaker 9: Mooch argued, and I agree with him that pressures are
Speaker 9: more impactful than sacks.
Speaker 8: Okay, so you're saying if it's an even number, like
Speaker 8: it like you would take an even number of because
Speaker 8: it's always you know, there's more. It seems like there's
Speaker 8: more pressures than you actually get sexs what it's.
Speaker 9: Been more impactful for the Dallas Cowboys this year, sacks
Speaker 9: or pressures.
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna say sacks only because of the fact
Speaker 8: of if you're just saying the individual play, but pressures.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I give it to it because the number is higher.
Speaker 7: That's the only thing.
Speaker 8: What happens off for Preyre if you told me that
Speaker 8: the pressures were tame.
Speaker 5: What happens off pressures? Turnover? What happens on a sect
Speaker 5: sometimes lost shortage?
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I'm gonna tell us right now.
Speaker 8: Those some of those Micah Parson sacks that he's had
Speaker 8: in his career early in games set the tone.
Speaker 7: For the rest of the day.
Speaker 6: We're just like, yeah, I know it's true.
Speaker 3: It is true, and I think they hold different weight.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is something we take it. Let's take this
Speaker 3: in this second segment.
Speaker 4: I like this idea.
Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about that sacks versus pressures, which one holds more weight
Speaker 3: in certain scenarios.
Speaker 4: And also we're going to take a look at the
Speaker 4: Cardinals offense.
Speaker 3: What does Joshua Dobbs bring to the table since Kyler
Speaker 3: Murray is not available for Arizona when we come back
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Speaker 3: Isaiah posed the question from somebody else, who'd you say, mooch, mooch? Yeah,
Speaker 3: So Isaiah posts the question from Mooch in the first segment,
Speaker 3: which one is more impactful for this Dallas defense? And
Speaker 3: that's why we're gonna we're gonna narrow it in for
Speaker 3: the Dallas defense. Turnovers or excuse me, pressures or sacks.
Speaker 3: Pressures or sacked is the question. I think here's the one.
Speaker 3: This is why I think it's even the first game,
Speaker 3: you would say the sacks were more impactful.
Speaker 4: Against the Jets.
Speaker 3: The sacks were there, they are excuse me, against the Giants,
Speaker 3: the sacks were there, The loss of yardage was there.
Speaker 3: Giants never played in front of the chains. They never
Speaker 3: really had a chance to get their offense going because
Speaker 3: they were always playing behind the chains. The Jets, on
Speaker 3: the other hand, I think the pressures were more impactful
Speaker 3: because he had four takeaways and most of them, or
Speaker 3: three of those four takeaways came off of Zach Wilson
Speaker 3: having to avoid pressure, roll out and throw it in
Speaker 3: a coverage.
Speaker 4: So it is even. I think it's very close.
Speaker 3: I still think I would give it to sacks, because
Speaker 3: if you're equaling the pressures and the sacks number together,
Speaker 3: ten sacks is far more impressive than ten pressures. That's
Speaker 3: just how it looks for me. But they are impactful
Speaker 3: as a part of the game.
Speaker 6: I think it's situational and circumstantial, like just like you said,
Speaker 6: like sacks were more important than the Giants game. Pressure
Speaker 6: is more important than the Jets game. Because if you
Speaker 6: have a quarterback that can operate really well under pressure,
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, then not getting to him doesn't
Speaker 6: really do anything, you know. So I think it's circumstantial,
Speaker 6: and it depends on who's who's back there at quarterback.
Speaker 6: You know, for example, you know, Joshua Dobbs coming up
Speaker 6: probably probably pressures. You know, a young quarterback who doesn't
Speaker 6: have a lot of experience or quote unquote young but
Speaker 6: doesn't have a lot of experience, pressures will probably be
Speaker 6: more important there. But sacks are huge momentum shifters, and
Speaker 6: especially we've seen that with Michael Parsons and adding that
Speaker 6: little lion celebration that's just that just adds another layer
Speaker 6: of like momentum and intrigue to it. I think that's
Speaker 6: just been really cool.
Speaker 4: It's pretty accurate lion crawl that he does too, kind of.
Speaker 8: You think, just like recording himself a few times at practice,
Speaker 8: so I know he's gotten some reps in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got it down.
Speaker 3: So you do think it's sacks though, and it's not
Speaker 3: even necessarily close. No, it's close for sure.
Speaker 8: I just think the number of pressures, you know, like,
Speaker 8: if you're gonna get ten pressures in four sacks, i'd
Speaker 8: really have the ten pressures. But if you tell me
Speaker 8: I can get four pressures four sacks, the four sacks,
Speaker 8: I guess that's where it's in. And if it's a
Speaker 8: Micah Parson sack, and I know that it's not like
Speaker 8: they're undefeated when he gets a sack. But man, especially
Speaker 8: early in the games, it just seems like it's such
Speaker 8: a tone setter for the rest of the defense.
Speaker 9: I agree, if you if you put them side by side,
Speaker 9: obviously sacks are going to be it. However, that's not
Speaker 9: how it works out right, there's always going to be
Speaker 9: for the most part, at least with this defense is
Speaker 9: gonna be more pressures then there will be sacks. Okay,
Speaker 9: because as a quarterback you're trying to get the ball
Speaker 9: out of your hands to avoid the sack. Okay, so
Speaker 9: you're pressured to not have the sack, you guys.
Speaker 3: Are saying, So you're talking about the totality of the
Speaker 3: pressure impact versus the totality of the sex.
Speaker 9: What's the result, right, if you get if you get
Speaker 9: it's call it call it five and ten, right, five sacks,
Speaker 9: ten pressures. Okay, you're probably gonna have more impact off
Speaker 9: of the pressures than you would off the sacks.
Speaker 4: That's five.
Speaker 9: That's five sacks though, Like that's all the five sacks,
Speaker 9: so you have five tackles for loss.
Speaker 6: Well, the reason those pressures and.
Speaker 9: Those pressures might because of the threat of a set
Speaker 9: of the absolutely, but what happens off of this pressures?
Speaker 5: What's happened off pressures this year?
Speaker 6: Takeaways?
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 8: I just how many takeaways have we had off of
Speaker 8: sacks this year on those pressures?
Speaker 7: I would like.
Speaker 6: One, right, I think there was one.
Speaker 4: There was one, Yeah, we got one of the on
Speaker 4: the pressures.
Speaker 7: I would also like to hit the quarterback there.
Speaker 5: I mean usually they get hit.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just talking about the ones where like they
Speaker 8: close in to be here.
Speaker 7: I just something that I need your heads on.
Speaker 9: The quarterback throws happen off of pressures, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 9: and because of that, we've seen we've seen get an
Speaker 9: interception this year, We've seen Gilmore get an interception this year,
Speaker 9: We've seen Trayvon almost did Yeah, I mean is.
Speaker 7: Happening Yeah, especially with this defense, no question. Now, it
Speaker 7: is interesting.
Speaker 3: That is an interesting concept because yeah, I think what
Speaker 3: maybe one turnover for off of a sack.
Speaker 4: I think Daniel Jones stripsack.
Speaker 6: I think it was Chauncey Golson in the first game.
Speaker 4: Man that that.
Speaker 5: There's a lot not hard to think about what the
Speaker 5: pressures have done, has it?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: Point man?
Speaker 6: I like the conversation about him.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Fisher from Moore's Town, New Jersey asked us on
Speaker 3: the text line, said the defense hasn't necessarily been tested
Speaker 3: in its.
Speaker 4: Totality, is what he says here.
Speaker 3: The game against the Cardinals, though, could be a little test,
Speaker 3: especially the way that they're able to run the football
Speaker 3: with Joshua Dobbs and James Connor. So with those two
Speaker 3: running the ball quite well, what do you think of
Speaker 3: that comment that they haven't been tested yet in terms
Speaker 3: of the two teams that they've faced. I think there's
Speaker 3: been decent amount of tests. I don't think the Jets
Speaker 3: nor the Giants are a bad team by any stretch
Speaker 3: of the imagination. Of course, Aaron Rodgers wasn't playing for
Speaker 3: the Some of the Cowboys haven't been tested, correct, That's
Speaker 3: what in this regard, it would be correct.
Speaker 9: Why is that because this style of offense is more
Speaker 9: like a Philadelphia style offense Arizona. That's when I'm speaking
Speaker 9: to okay, in terms of the zone read, in terms
Speaker 9: of the actual real threat of the running back being
Speaker 9: able to carry the ball in a real threat of
Speaker 9: the quarterback hurting you as well if he decides to
Speaker 9: keep the ball, their ability to move, move the pocket,
Speaker 9: get out the pockets, throw on the run, in terms
Speaker 9: of sprint outs, get down the edge. You know, the misdirection.
Speaker 9: They do a ton of misdirection, a ton of misdirection.
Speaker 9: So in terms of this defense being challenged in the
Speaker 9: way that they have been hurt in the past, this
Speaker 9: will be the greatest challenge from the strategy standpoint and
Speaker 9: a discipline standpoint, because Dallas has only really struggled with
Speaker 9: one office and has been Philly. And that's because what
Speaker 9: Philly does. Philly does misdirection. Philly does a lot of
Speaker 9: smoke over here, right and thenber fire over here. Philly
Speaker 9: gets their quarterback out on the edge. Philly runs zone
Speaker 9: read offense.
Speaker 5: Right. So a lot of the things that Philly.
Speaker 9: Does, this Arizona offense does, and a lot of people
Speaker 9: are not gonna put respect on him because it's not
Speaker 9: the typical starter.
Speaker 5: It's Arizona. The Cardinals organization has been.
Speaker 9: Trashed for a while, you know, all the things, but
Speaker 9: you better put some respect on it because this dude
Speaker 9: is smart as all get out.
Speaker 5: He dabs at it. As a quarterback.
Speaker 9: You got Connor who's running the ball really well. He's
Speaker 9: been doing so for some years. You have Ertz that's
Speaker 9: out there. You have Rondel Moore, you have freaking Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 9: You have some dudes that can get over the top
Speaker 9: of your coverage. You have their concepts that they're running
Speaker 9: offensively is a lot of switch releases. So they either
Speaker 9: they're either going to flood the zones and really make
Speaker 9: it hard for you in terms of your responsibilities and
Speaker 9: zone defense, or if you play man to man, it's
Speaker 9: going to be really difficult because these guys are going
Speaker 9: to do a lot of reb routes and they have
Speaker 9: the speed to get beyond you. So this is not
Speaker 9: just a walk over you type of offense. You know,
Speaker 9: I know defense has been killing it as of late,
Speaker 9: but this will be their greatest challenge in terms of
Speaker 9: the responsibilities and they're discipline based upon things that they've
Speaker 9: struggled with in the past.
Speaker 8: I get all that, but I don't think it will.
Speaker 8: The only thing for me it would be is that
Speaker 8: they overlook them and they don't show up. Because I
Speaker 8: agree with you on and I think that's great insight too,
Speaker 8: especially comparing to the Eagles, and just they just don't
Speaker 8: have to excuse me, they don't have it close to
Speaker 8: the players that the Eagles do.
Speaker 7: That's only I mean, there's the generic brand version even
Speaker 7: the Eagles.
Speaker 8: If you just take away one of those receivers, I
Speaker 8: don't know that the Eagles have as much success, but
Speaker 8: the fact that they have all the weapons that they
Speaker 8: have on top of it, if the Cardinals had a
Speaker 8: you know, one hundred percent healthy Kyler Murray and you know,
Speaker 8: one hundred percent healthy DeAndre Hopkins obviously is not there anymore.
Speaker 8: Like what they were building towards totally different. I just
Speaker 8: I look at and I'm probably I probably shouldn't do this,
Speaker 8: but I just look at that the way that the
Speaker 8: Titans played, it's one of the worst games I've seen.
Speaker 8: I hated watching that game against the Cowboys last year
Speaker 8: with God and it was just so awful. And I'm
Speaker 8: just like, this is not the guy to do it.
Speaker 8: So maybe I'll be proven wrong on Sunday. But if
Speaker 8: they don't overlook them, they're blowing them out.
Speaker 3: Dallas got up ten to nothing early in that game,
Speaker 3: and then a couple of field goals before halftime touchdown
Speaker 3: right at the start of the second or the third quarter.
Speaker 3: It was seventeen thirteen going into the fourth, and then
Speaker 3: Dallas put up some.
Speaker 8: Points and they were also trending with the Cowboys are
Speaker 8: not trending in a good direction though. That's something that
Speaker 8: will definitely be monitoring during this season because they're clearly
Speaker 8: on the op. Everybody's healthy, everything's great, you know, not
Speaker 8: turning the ball over, Mike's recking every game. Osa is
Speaker 8: emerging and all that, But how are they going to
Speaker 8: be after you take some you know, getting beat up
Speaker 8: and then you know, you could have a couple of
Speaker 8: losses that you shouldn't have, like the Packers game, like
Speaker 8: the jag game, and then you start trending in a
Speaker 8: direction where then all of a sudden, you have that
Speaker 8: Washington game that left me scratching my head, like one
Speaker 8: of the most bizarre games I've ever seen. The Cowboys play,
Speaker 8: but that Titans game. If I can erase one game
Speaker 8: from having to go to in my life, it's that
Speaker 8: that game was so terrible. Yeah, it's when it's on Prime.
Speaker 8: It's one of the biggest reasons why I'm not a
Speaker 8: fan of Thursday night football.
Speaker 7: It was so bad.
Speaker 6: I'm not super worried about the running game with Joshua
Speaker 6: Dobbs specifically because I think this is one of the worst,
Speaker 6: if not the worst offensive line they'll see all year,
Speaker 6: and I think it's more important to keep Dobbs healthy
Speaker 6: than it even was for Tennessee last year, just because
Speaker 6: Clayton Tune is not going to be ready to come
Speaker 6: in that game if he has to and you know,
Speaker 6: perform against that defensive line. So I mean, he's rushed
Speaker 6: the ball six times so far through two games, a
Speaker 6: little bit more action against New York than he had
Speaker 6: in Week one, but he's already fumbled three times. I
Speaker 6: find it hard to believe that they're really going to
Speaker 6: put him in situations where he's going to be in
Speaker 6: those read options. I think we could see two or three,
Speaker 6: but I don't think it's going to be a predominant
Speaker 6: part of the offense. Now the tight end usage, I
Speaker 6: think that will be I've cracked it down this morning.
Speaker 6: I think it was forty five percent of his completion
Speaker 6: so far have been to either Zach Ertz or Trade McBride.
Speaker 6: They're tight end du well, so it's gonna be quick stuff,
Speaker 6: you know, in the seams as well, so we'll get
Speaker 6: we'll see that second level get active in coverage too,
Speaker 6: so maybe even some opportunities for mikeet getting coveraged as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree in some regards, but I do think
Speaker 9: that respect should be placed on shots because I think
Speaker 9: that I do think they're going to give Dallas some
Speaker 9: a handful of problems.
Speaker 5: I truly do.
Speaker 9: I really believe that they're going to cast some headaches.
Speaker 9: I think that Dobbs has over seventy five yards Russia
Speaker 9: in this game. Because if I'm the coach, and what
Speaker 9: I've seen on film from Dallas this year, what's hurt
Speaker 9: Dallas this year?
Speaker 6: Zach Wilson escaping on that one drive?
Speaker 5: What else happened? Go back the week before that, Danny
Speaker 5: dimes back. So as soon as they.
Speaker 9: Read one, as soon as they run a stunt thing,
Speaker 9: as soon as they ran a stunt, what did Danny
Speaker 9: Dimes do off, took off?
Speaker 5: Right? Why would you not do that? If I'm seeing
Speaker 5: it the.
Speaker 8: Last times, that's Jay run Curs laid the wood on them.
Speaker 4: I hear you, I hear you do that.
Speaker 5: I hear times. Dobbs has wheels, Dobbs has a cannon.
Speaker 6: Let's go fifty, he has a I this is my
Speaker 6: just my no, I'm not and obviously we like, I'm
Speaker 6: still stuck on seventy five here.
Speaker 5: I think he runs for seventy five.
Speaker 6: Okay, that would be wild.
Speaker 3: His career high in rushing yards in a single game
Speaker 3: happened in Week two of the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 5: Away.
Speaker 3: This was last week. He had forty one yards. That
Speaker 3: was his career high.
Speaker 5: Yep, thirty.
Speaker 3: Here's just rushing totals and games that he has played
Speaker 3: in forty one, thirty two, twenty fifteen, twelve zero zero,
Speaker 3: negative one, negative three, negative three.
Speaker 8: I gotta be fair, what's something I gotta I completely
Speaker 8: left this out people.
Speaker 7: People need to know this too.
Speaker 8: Okay, if I'm gonna hate it on that Thursday game,
Speaker 8: let's also remember he's coming off of it being a
Speaker 8: practice squad quarterback with the Lions, and like in one week.
Speaker 8: So it's not like it's not going to be no, no,
Speaker 8: he did. He did, for sure, But I also think
Speaker 8: that I don't know, I did not think that that
Speaker 8: was the normal Cowboys team that played that there was
Speaker 8: they were just looked terrible Negg.
Speaker 7: But anyway, I think.
Speaker 9: I'm not going to write it off because Dallas had
Speaker 9: a bad day, right, I'm not gonna write.
Speaker 7: That if the Dallas has a good day, it won't
Speaker 7: matter what your.
Speaker 5: You got to make a point if your your your
Speaker 5: job as an.
Speaker 9: Offensive coordinator is to take what the defense is not
Speaker 9: doing well with, okay, and highlight your players and put
Speaker 9: them in the best position possible. So if you already
Speaker 9: have a zone read offense, which Arizona has, right, and
Speaker 9: you have proof and evidence that Dallas struggles with that
Speaker 9: make him think why would you not make that the
Speaker 9: premiere part of your offense. It's not like you're adding
Speaker 9: that to your offense. It's already this is what you do.
Speaker 9: So I don't care what you've done in the past, Dobbs,
Speaker 9: this is what I need you to do this week,
Speaker 9: and that's what that's your strategy, and you cause headaches
Speaker 9: and guess.
Speaker 7: What, how can we slow Mica down?
Speaker 9: Only time we've ever seen Michael slow down and stop
Speaker 9: his feet is on zone read and you go back
Speaker 9: to the Philly game. Every Philly game he has to
Speaker 9: stop his feet and figure out what direction do I go?
Speaker 5: Every time.
Speaker 7: But you think that they can do that enough to
Speaker 7: keep the game close.
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm saying. I'm not saying that the game
Speaker 9: is going to be closed. I didn't say that.
Speaker 5: But what I say is I think.
Speaker 9: They are going to cost some headaches for the defense
Speaker 9: and that you have not seen this year different.
Speaker 5: It's going to be completely different challenge because.
Speaker 4: I think we were getting in to say it with
Speaker 4: your chest right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying aler this.
Speaker 9: One of my statements is this will be the greatest
Speaker 9: challenge in terms of discipline, right in strategy that Dallas's
Speaker 9: defense has faced so.
Speaker 5: Far this year.
Speaker 3: At this point, yes, that that makes more sense, but
Speaker 3: still seventy five rushing yards.
Speaker 5: I will say this on one carry.
Speaker 6: If Joshua Dobbs rushes for seventy five yards, I will
Speaker 6: comment on Monday, all.
Speaker 5: Pink and to to to let's do it.
Speaker 6: I'm so serious that ship.
Speaker 4: You didn't even have like a return bet on.
Speaker 9: Okay, you ready, sugar, it's for I'm going to to shopping.
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Speaker 9: My business is right next door to a joy in,
Speaker 9: So I'm going to get you to I'm going to
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Speaker 7: I'm tagging Dobs on Twitter right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Please, Yeah, let's just go and do it.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I have never rooted for another player to hit a
Speaker 3: certain mark.
Speaker 6: Because you're a hater. I'm sorry you've learned from me.
Speaker 4: I know I've spent too much time with you.
Speaker 8: He's gonna have one runner for seventy five yards exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: Quarter. I would be like, no, I'm gonna up and
Speaker 6: jump out the press box.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be rocking.
Speaker 8: It's just gonna be He does that in the first carrying,
Speaker 8: so it's like it's very early in the game whatever
Speaker 8: I get.
Speaker 7: So you're just sweating the whole entire time.
Speaker 8: But like in the fourth quarter he does like a
Speaker 8: run and then loses like four yards and you're just like,
Speaker 8: how exciting.
Speaker 6: It's It was like seventy three Yeah you heard it here.
Speaker 3: First, ladies and gentlemen, Nick Harris and all Pink Antitude too.
Speaker 5: Are these the fastest receivers that Dallas is faced.
Speaker 6: Yes, I will say that I was looking at that
Speaker 6: this morning between Hollywood Brown, Greg derch Rondell Moore. I mean,
Speaker 6: they have some speed guys. My only thing is who
Speaker 6: do they put on the outside? You know, who do
Speaker 6: they put in the slot? Who do they maximize? I
Speaker 6: guess it would be Hollywood, You're trying to maximize. But
Speaker 6: I mean all three of those guys have speed and
Speaker 6: they have catching ability.
Speaker 4: Let's answer that question. Who do you put on the
Speaker 4: outside against the speed from the Arizona Cardinals offense? When
Speaker 4: we come back with more talking Cowboys right after this.
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Speaker 3: smile of America's team. All right, we asked the question
Speaker 3: going in to break Nick Harri's posset, that is this
Speaker 3: the quickest wide receiving core that the Dallas Cowboys defense
Speaker 3: has seen to this point? I think all four of
Speaker 3: us probably look at it and say, yes, this is
Speaker 3: the quickest that they are going to face. Why why
Speaker 3: does that present a challenge Nick in terms of coverage
Speaker 3: and who's going to be on the outside, who's going
Speaker 3: to cover on the perimeter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you have guys that are multiple, multiple guys
Speaker 6: that are multiple meeting, guys that can play inside, guys
Speaker 6: that can move outside, and still you know, give you
Speaker 6: a developed route tree and show some things. But I
Speaker 6: think when you're talking about Marquise Brown, Rondell Moore, Greg Dorts,
Speaker 6: these are guys that are maximized in the slot because
Speaker 6: they have more space to operate. But you're gonna have
Speaker 6: to move one of them out. I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 6: have Michael Wilson probably on a boundary, so that's six
Speaker 6: to two frame you would want out there. You also
Speaker 6: have the option of putting zach Ertz out out wide,
Speaker 6: which you know they've done a couple of times through
Speaker 6: the first couple of weeks as well. But I think
Speaker 6: with Marquise Brown, just given his experience in playing outside
Speaker 6: both at Oklahoma and then early on with Arizona, I
Speaker 6: think you probably you probably want him out there lined
Speaker 6: up against Gilmore and then Wilson lined up against Trayvon.
Speaker 6: With Trayvon being more of the bigger physical corner, you'll
Speaker 6: want your bigger physical receiver on him. I think it's
Speaker 6: gonna be tough for either of those guys, especially with
Speaker 6: Michael Wilson on Trayvon Diggs. But I think it'll be
Speaker 6: an interesting test for Gilmore if he's lined up against
Speaker 6: the speed guy that they do put on the outside.
Speaker 6: Just because Gilmore he didn't look great against the Jets.
Speaker 6: If I had to pick one defensive player that I
Speaker 6: would have liked to see more from, it would have
Speaker 6: been Gilmore. We saw it on the slant, but we
Speaker 6: take away the slant that Garrett Wilson had where he
Speaker 6: broke away from Stefan Gilmore. There were a couple couple
Speaker 6: of opportunities where it was just bad balls from Zach Wilson,
Speaker 6: where if they were on the money, it was ten
Speaker 6: fifteen yard games. And I didn't love the performance from
Speaker 6: from Gilmore in Week two. So I would like to
Speaker 6: see him matched up against a speed guy, a guy
Speaker 6: that will force him to stay with him, stay a
Speaker 6: step for step.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you have to have big play from
Speaker 8: these receivers for Arizona.
Speaker 7: Even to say in this game.
Speaker 8: I just do not see Arizona just meticulously going you know,
Speaker 8: ten twelve, fifteen play drives up and down the field
Speaker 8: on this defense.
Speaker 7: So that's one way that they could stay in it.
Speaker 8: The Josh jabs running, getting some big runs or hitting
Speaker 8: off some big plays down the field like that. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's that's one way they can stand to it for sure.
Speaker 3: James Connor and Marquise Brown are the only Cardinals with
Speaker 3: eighty plus scrimmage yards through the first two regular season games.
Speaker 3: Connor has been great thirty seven carries, one hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy rushing yards and rushing touchdown.
Speaker 4: He has one hundred and seventy six yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Brown nine receptions eighty two yards in a touchdown, so
Speaker 3: he's just right over the top of that threshold. So
Speaker 3: they've been limited to this point, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that you can't break the big play. That's the one
Speaker 3: time Dallas has given up a touchdown was the big
Speaker 3: play to Garrett Wilson. So it certainly could happen.
Speaker 7: And this offense will look a lot better with Kayleb
Speaker 7: Boyans next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might.
Speaker 6: Honestly, it might be.
Speaker 7: I just wanted to see what I just want to see.
Speaker 4: It's the best quarterback in the Pac twelve for sure.
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is going to get a little bit of
Speaker 6: an introduction. He's going to be in Tempee on Saturday night.
Speaker 7: So it doesn't have to be Kleb Blames could be
Speaker 7: Shedar Sanders.
Speaker 9: You that's the second beat quarter who Phoenix, who's only
Speaker 9: leading the country in passing.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about that.
Speaker 4: For a second year in a row.
Speaker 9: For a second year in a row, I will say
Speaker 9: the receiver to throw for five hundred yards a game.
Speaker 6: The lad receiver for Washington, Jalen Polk from Lufkin Texas
Speaker 6: hashtag Beast Texas has been doing.
Speaker 4: The best receiver.
Speaker 7: Washington recruits taxes.
Speaker 6: They have to very hard. Actually, they got a defensive
Speaker 6: lineman last year that was pretty solid. It's it's the
Speaker 6: campus and the c appeal of Seattle. They'll be able
Speaker 6: to recruit is.
Speaker 7: It is a cool stadium, cool vibe.
Speaker 9: Ninety three yards passing per game, number one in the nation.
Speaker 9: Six hundred and fourteen total offensive yards per game.
Speaker 5: That's number two in the nations.
Speaker 9: Thirteen hundred passing yards through the first handful of games,
Speaker 9: that's number one in the nation.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about it. Yeah, just second year in a row.
Speaker 6: Put some respect, really good office.
Speaker 7: Want to get out of Texas heat and go southall too?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can see it can easy.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, say many put some respect on him. They won't
Speaker 5: even boot, they won't bump us up into ratings. They
Speaker 5: just keep them at number eight over world. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: You would think you would get a massive boost in
Speaker 3: the ratings after beating Boise State.
Speaker 4: Big We got.
Speaker 9: To go because listen, we scheduled greater opponents for our
Speaker 9: quote unquote preseason.
Speaker 4: We have now coming up.
Speaker 9: No, no, no, we had Ohio State on our schedule.
Speaker 9: We were supposed to play Ohio State this year, but
Speaker 9: they backed out. Ohio State paid a three million dollar penalty.
Speaker 9: They paid a three million dollar penalty because they backed
Speaker 9: out of playing US.
Speaker 5: I wonder why they backed out.
Speaker 6: Not a great year for the for the Buckeyes. You
Speaker 6: played it so you got a head coach lists Michigan
Speaker 6: State and in return.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, hey, we can't.
Speaker 4: We can't control.
Speaker 9: We scheduled, We schedule good games, but we can't control
Speaker 9: top Supposedly tip programer is back out because they're scared
Speaker 9: to take the ail early in the year and.
Speaker 6: You can only play what's in front of you.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be five and oh going into that October
Speaker 3: fourteenth matchup against.
Speaker 5: Oregon were dont they don't want that.
Speaker 4: Oregon gonna beat you bag.
Speaker 7: Does not want our work and beat them by.
Speaker 6: I think Washington gets them.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I actually really do like Washington.
Speaker 4: I just like giving Isaiah.
Speaker 5: I hope, I hope we face Colorado in a PAC
Speaker 5: twelve championship.
Speaker 6: That won't happen.
Speaker 5: I know, I know what happen. It's gonna be sc
Speaker 5: versus you does.
Speaker 6: But it would be fun though.
Speaker 5: Oregon quarterback showdown.
Speaker 4: Baby, don't hate on the Ducks.
Speaker 5: Ducks. I hate ducks.
Speaker 7: I hate the Ducks more than the Trojans.
Speaker 5: Hate the ducks that Oregon.
Speaker 9: I hate the Tropan songs, legit, hate the Trojan song,
Speaker 9: but I hate the Ducks. Like them in Washington State
Speaker 9: are like even Keel in terms of me and my.
Speaker 3: Dis I have an Oregon snap back from throw way
Speaker 3: back in the garbage, and I've.
Speaker 4: Got to I've got a Washington Washington State T shirt.
Speaker 4: I will burn it in studio while with a fire.
Speaker 6: Ext You should wear the Oregon pink out jersey. If
Speaker 6: Joshua Dobs is not.
Speaker 2: Kissing, oh, I like.
Speaker 6: Done.
Speaker 5: It's on.
Speaker 6: There's no way we can find that anyway.
Speaker 5: That does it for us.
Speaker 4: You're on Talking Huskies, I mean Cowboys. Glad you joined
Speaker 4: us today.
Speaker 3: Will be back tomorrow, Isaiah will maybe make the shot tomorrow,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe you hit it. You gotta a full breakdown
Speaker 3: of the Cardinals defense tomorrow coming right. Oh yeah, a
Speaker 3: little film room action coming tomorrow night. But we'll have
Speaker 3: that nine am Central time. Be sure to get your
Speaker 3: calls in right now eight eight eight eight five five
Speaker 3: two two ninety seven for Cowboys storyline with Nick Heatman.
Speaker 3: But that does it for us on Talking Cowboys today
Speaker 3: and for Chris Beam, Isaiah stand back, John Matchoda, Nick Harris,
Speaker 3: and Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Star and Frisco.
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