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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's you're live on a sun kissed Monday. Oh baby,

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Speaker 2: seventy and sunny out there living. It's glorious. It really

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Speaker 2: is not going to Las Origin and ask for a

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Speaker 2: live there.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. I'm enjoying it as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: enjoying it as well.

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Speaker 4: We got this what for.

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Speaker 2: Grip's already on something. We got something wrong. What's luminaries around?

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Speaker 2: And we've got Griff is now fixing a camera. It's

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Speaker 2: probably the post now he's up a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 2: we don't see anything on the stream here.

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Speaker 5: Griff's working on it right now.

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Speaker 2: Right we're efforting, No Gibbe, he's on assignment this week.

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Speaker 2: The kids are running a muck. There we go. Now

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Speaker 2: you're on there you go. That's that's everything that you

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Speaker 2: need right there.

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Speaker 6: About this number right here from the Great.

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Speaker 2: Boil, Yeah, I like it ties in with the outfit.

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Speaker 2: It ties ties the room together.

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Speaker 6: My head is so tiny, you do I have such

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Speaker 6: a wee little melon it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd have to go one. Now you're at, Now

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Speaker 2: you're at. That's you. That's you right there. That'll come down.

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Speaker 2: That's a good spot for you right there. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, Yeah, how you doing great? Even better now?

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Speaker 2: Thank you to your kindness. Oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: oh gosh almighty. We've got a Gibby sat down with

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Speaker 2: Matt Miller coming. Yeah, we've got to give it and

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Speaker 2: give me interview.

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Speaker 6: He's giving us gifts, gifts. Gibby's down in Florida. I

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Speaker 6: think he's from, at least when I last checked in

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Speaker 6: with him. He is happy as a clam, as they say, which,

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Speaker 6: in my opinion, is a strange expression.

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Speaker 2: How do we know that clams are happy? I think

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Speaker 2: it's just the fact that they always look like they're smiling, right,

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Speaker 2: because of their natural disposition or their natural position, right,

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Speaker 2: But it kind of has the view of a smile.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a golden retriever like Buddy Garritty,

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Speaker 2: Like he always looks like he's smiling at you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just because his resting face is a jaw open and

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Speaker 2: it just looks like he's smiling. That's the thing that's.

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Speaker 6: Sad about Asa is Asa because I think she is

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Speaker 6: a you know, South of the border dog. She's used

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Speaker 6: to a certain level of heat that she does not

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Speaker 6: get here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So there are only maybe three months a year where

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Speaker 6: her resting face is an open mouthed smile.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The rest of the year she keeps her mouth closed

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Speaker 6: the whole time, just.

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Speaker 2: Pensive, just trying to get through the day. Dad, why

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Speaker 6: Then in summer she doesn't do the same thing, but

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Speaker 6: it's like and it's like, oh, now you're having a

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Speaker 6: great time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way that goes. Yeah, Oh that's good. No,

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Speaker 2: it's so we've got we had a great weekend at

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Speaker 2: a nice little Sunday, and now you've got today and

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Speaker 2: then tomorrow and then it's cools off. Right then we

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Speaker 2: think tomorrow is gonna rain quite a bit. Is it

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but I think some some I think

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Speaker 6: if you want to do something outdoor, got to.

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Speaker 2: Be done today, that's is that the objective?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think that's right. What do you like? I'd like

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Speaker 2: to see you that's just my back. Oh okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see you and the boys put some

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Speaker 2: shots up today.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of putting shots, it won't be quite the most

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Speaker 6: recent environment for which shots were put up.

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Speaker 2: But no, all right, oh forty six Wednesday, Oh yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: then it's it's done. Oh my god, in like middle

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Speaker 2: of March is like highs in the thirties. Oh you go, yeah, live,

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Speaker 2: tell the bosses, let the people live. Yeah, every let

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Speaker 2: them out. Everybody out by three today, no doubt. Get

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Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, yeah, you got to. Maybe we'll put

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Speaker 2: Matt Miller in the second hour and we'll I like,

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Speaker 2: where your head's at, Matt Miller? Who gets our Matt Miller?

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Speaker 2: Two forty right to right to two fifty, right to

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Speaker 5: Next levels next, somebody's got to outro it. If you're

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Speaker 5: fine with me doing it, I'm I'm you know.

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Speaker 6: We want to see you question yet you were the answer.

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Speaker 6: We want to see you spread your wings and fly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's who knows. Becaus got to stay here.

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Speaker 2: Who knows? Like it's a big day for Runo. What's

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Speaker 6: Making his Cleveland Browns Flag Football League debut.

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Speaker 2: There's a league here, that yes going on right and

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Speaker 2: now your greatness and that forever your cleat's set in there,

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Speaker 2: and now I don't think they are anymore.

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Speaker 4: Now I got it.

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Speaker 2: Now it's back.

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Speaker 6: I got a very nice conflict from Ashby. Okay, Ashley

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Speaker 6: came to me, He goes, why aren't you playing play football?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I'm old man, it's over. It's

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Speaker 6: He's like, I used to love to sit up there

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Speaker 6: and watch you like sling the ball around. And I

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Speaker 6: was like, Ashby, we had to have a hut. We

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Speaker 6: need an embrace now. Thank you very much. You guys

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Speaker 6: did even mention the Jeff George Jersey. I was like,

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Speaker 6: it was Doddy Goes. Actually a lot of us used

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Speaker 6: to watch when you guys would play in like the

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Speaker 6: big Gameses that a lot of us come up there

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Speaker 6: and watch because we liked watching you sling it. Ab

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Speaker 6: used to play. Ab was like Michael Vick and Ed

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Speaker 2: Probably tough to defend. Yeah, yeah, very much so.

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Speaker 6: But that was very nice as But Joe, so I'm

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Speaker 6: not playing, but the league is back. Uno is playing

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Speaker 6: and making his debut tonight. He's got good wheels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've actually never played like organized football in my life,

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Speaker 5: so I'm just going off there.

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Speaker 2: That's hard for me to understand. How did someone of

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Speaker 2: your speed not get like into because you ran track

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Speaker 2: at BW How did you someone with your speed not

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Speaker 2: get poached at some point to play some football.

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Speaker 5: My mom was not into me playing football as a

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Speaker 5: kid because I wasn't big enough, so she thought if

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Speaker 5: I got hit.

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Speaker 2: Mama, Uno, well this is flag, so don't we don't

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Speaker 4: So this be fine?

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Speaker 6: Can you run at uno speeds and catch at the

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Speaker 5: I think so. We're about to find out. But I

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 6: You can go far into the NFL in fact, being

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Speaker 6: able to run really quickly even if you can't catch

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Speaker 2: That's true. We know, we know, we've seen it. We've

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Speaker 2: seen it. If you will, well that's exciting. So the

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Speaker 2: debut for him is grip playing.

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Speaker 6: All right, run through, give us your give us your squad,

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Speaker 6: and then we're going to get to Bow's.

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Speaker 2: I mean, between the two.

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Speaker 6: Of us, fairy tale, a couple of fairy tale experiences.

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Speaker 2: All right, you know, give us your squad.

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Speaker 5: I'm pulling it up right now.

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Speaker 6: I know that it starts with Cory, who is taking

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Speaker 6: over the equipment from the great Brad Mellon, who is retiring.

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Speaker 6: But I know we're gonna I know we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: Before he is the first Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I'm on the Great Team Black.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 6: Start captain by Corey Cory Gillis. By the way, you

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Speaker 6: already have a quarterback and an elite one. He's he

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Speaker 6: can sling it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So they ask you on the questionnaire if you're

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Speaker 5: like willing to play quarterback. So I think a lot

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Speaker 5: of these captains are the people who said, hey, we

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Speaker 5: want to play quarterback, okay, Andrew Boyd.

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Speaker 2: So if you did that in the in the third grade,

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Speaker 2: like if you went into Bootsi's class and say are

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Speaker 2: you willing to play quarterback? You have twenty five people

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Speaker 2: going like this, yeah, all quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: I think that lessons as you get old. I have

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Speaker 2: That, all right, So Uno, Cory, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Andrew Boyd, Britt Anderson, kid Zelensky, Enzo Profeto.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of that. Yeah, same, You've got to.

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Speaker 5: Bring it Iansexton, Aman Warren Aman's good and then me

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, how many teams are there? Six six teams.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of guys. You go seven on seven

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Speaker 5: Six on six? Okay, we have Riley hex Lynsky, Oh,

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Speaker 5: Riley and Savannah Allen. That's the team.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people.

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Speaker 6: So you're gonna want to work Riley and Aman definitely

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Speaker 6: in the ad zone because if the rules are the same,

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Speaker 6: I think, yeah, a touchdown scored by a female accounts double.

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Speaker 5: I think it's one more point. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 5: it's double.

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Speaker 6: Okay, it's definitely bonus points.

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Speaker 2: An can play, and.

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Speaker 6: I have to imagine Riley can play, So I think

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Speaker 6: you've a pretty good shaped there.

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Speaker 5: I was told Riley can play.

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Speaker 2: Then are there any former NFL players playing in this league?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't see anyone else.

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Speaker 2: Don't think so Glenn is Glenn.

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Speaker 6: If Glenn Cook's playing, he's yeah, I didn't see I bet.

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Speaker 2: He's He's probably not now, but no, he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a dude. Tyson's formidable.

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Speaker 3: Abe.

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Speaker 6: So it's interesting. That's a great exercise there because I

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Speaker 6: know maybe four people.

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Speaker 2: I did a lot of I did a lot of

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Speaker 2: like oh uh huh, yeah, I know, like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: want to know Enzo. I need to know.

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Speaker 6: I think I do know. I feel like I feel

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Speaker 6: like I feel like I could identify Enzo.

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Speaker 2: Difference being though, like if if you just claim that

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Speaker 2: you only knew four and I bet you all of

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Speaker 2: them know you, whereas I'm not here all the time,

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Speaker 2: they know you so well, maybe just as to walk

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Speaker 2: by your your body is to walk by you know

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Speaker 2: Udo and Corey. Yeah so you know two. Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 2: and they all know you. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 2: they do. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't A lot of them know me.

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Speaker 2: That's also that's about to change. It's about to change. Kids,

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Speaker 2: what Okay, you better? I hope you can catch it.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, it's gonna be a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of go routes. It'll stop and stop and got ability

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Speaker 2: to catch. Okay. David Giuliani is a beast as well

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Speaker 2: in this league.

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Speaker 5: I was told it's not like an NFL sized ball.

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Speaker 6: Then he had on khaki looked like Khaki Jordan shorts.

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Speaker 2: It was a choice too, God bless him the greatest

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Speaker 6: But you wouldn't you think, like you, that's all that

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Speaker 6: I got three different things, three different manufacturers.

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Speaker 2: So it's a Kentucky Dunk, Jeff Ruby, Kentucky Dunk, like

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Speaker 2: looks and then it looks like it looks like a shoe. Yeah,

441
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 2: it looks exactly like it is a shoe. And it

442
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 2: served like and I don't know if I sent you

443
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 2: that one. It served in like that's how it comes

444
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 2: out like it says Kentucky. And then you pull the

445
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 2: glass off with dry ice and it's sitting underneath. So

446
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: like that happened. So it was nuts. And then the

447
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 2: next day next day we went to Keenland, which I

448
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 2: love Keenland. It's just spectacular. So went to Keenland, waffle house, breakfast,

449
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 2: went to Keenland, and then we went to the game.

450
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: And then the game they win the race track down there, Okay,

451
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: like it's it's if God created a place for horses

452
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 2: to run and to be watched run, it would be Keenland.

453
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 2: It's so majestic, it's just spectacular. So we did that

454
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: and we went to the game. And because of certain

455
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: things I was, I was able to get and this

456
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: this one, I just I just said, look, we're going once,

457
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna sit great. So we were first row. We

458
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 2: run TV the whole time because we were right to

459
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 2: the if you're looking at the screen, we were right

460
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 2: to the left of Calipari. Okay, so we were on

461
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: the screen the whole time, and we had great seats.

462
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 2: It was amazing how much Calipari and Muscleman like every

463
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: call they yelled at the officials. Every call it was

464
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 2: either you screwed that up, I want that at my end.

465
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 2: Every whistle they complained. It was unbelievable, both of them,

466
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 2: just John the whole time. But it's twenty thousand, and

467
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 2: it's it's honestly reminded me very much of like it

468
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 2: kind of felt like Ohigh State football, but even almost more.

469
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: Almost felt like it's hard to get more fanatical than

470
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 2: o Highest State football, but Browns is right there, like

471
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: just this twenty thousand, S's yeah, or twenty thousand Muni

472
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: lot and it's built straight up, so like you know,

473
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 2: the Q fans out a lot of these arenas fan out.

474
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 2: It's straight up so like the people who are seated

475
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: in front of you, your feet are at their heads.

476
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: Like if there were people there, weren't for us, but

477
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: if everybody else, it really isn't a bad seat because

478
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: their heads are at your feet, so everything's perfect, perfect

479
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: sight lines. Do they have people on the floor or no?

480
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: Because it's college, they've only got there was only probably

481
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: ten seats on the floor. Okay, that's it. But the

482
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 2: game was unbelievable. It's it went one eleven to one

483
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: oh two.

484
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 5: How nervy was that building because I know they.

485
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: Got down nine game, they got down nine with eight minutes,

486
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: nine minutes to go, and then they went and it

487
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: reminded me of like college basketball in our youth, Like

488
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: the scoring efficiency was crazy. It was crazy, and Arkansas

489
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: was into it, like they were playing hard and they ranked.

490
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: They're not they were a preseason they were a very

491
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: disappointing season, but they were in game.

492
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 5: They have a sun attack talented team too.

493
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but the other thing that was amazing

494
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: to me was because I went to Ohio State Indiana

495
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: game a month ago and the amount of talent Kentucky has,

496
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's stupefying. They have six of that. They

497
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: they had five kids in the top twenty five in

498
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: the country. They have three point guard freshmen, including Shepherd

499
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: and two others well uh Wagner, DJ Wagner, who's Dwon

500
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Wagner's kid, oh Man so and Milt Wagner's grandson. So

501
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: he's he starts, and then they got Shepherd and they

502
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: other this kid, Rod Dillingham, and they're they're all three

503
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: five star kids. They're just ridiculous. They're all freshmen. So

504
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: it was crazy and then we so then we went home.

505
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: I had to explain to him what hell is reel

506
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 2: is what that sign was down the way to Cincinnati,

507
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: and also had to explain He goes, Dad, what's a

508
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: Hooters because he don't have a point of reference on that,

509
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: and I said, well, we don't have. I don't is

510
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: there one even up here?

511
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't think. So that's where it's

512
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 6: where the alpha males go after it.

513
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: That's where the alpha males played golf. Yeah with the boys. Yes,

514
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: So I'm very thankful to you, and because I had,

515
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: it was a quick turn, like for me to be

516
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: off Friday, I wasn't planning on it. So thankful for

517
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: you and I had Wednesday Thursday, So I was happy

518
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: you did, very well. Happy to carry the load. I

519
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: told him on the way home, I'm like, dude, that

520
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: was like a make a wish weekend. And I I

521
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: told like the other two like I don't have any hookup.

522
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have a hook up here, like this is

523
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: just pure luck. But like I told Beamsy, I'm like, dude,

524
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: I got nothing at Kansas. I don't know anybody at Kansas.

525
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know a couple of people at Carolina,

526
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: but not to the point where I'm watching a practice.

527
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, hold on, you did not mention that, La.

528
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 6: Did you watch practice?

529
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? He did put some shots up. Oh yeah, you

530
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: got to shoot around. Yeah, I got to shoot around

531
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: in the practice facility. And then because of where our

532
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: seats were, like they gave him the ball to like

533
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: warm up the game ball. So he was like, I

534
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: got to bounce the game ball on ropp Arena, Like,

535
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: so you got to do that too. It's crazy, It's crazy.

536
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: All right, how did he shoot? He was nervy. So

537
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: Jack Gibbons was there, like a lot of First of all,

538
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: like the whole Kentucky team was there. It's not like

539
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: they were all watching him, but he was shooting on

540
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: his side hoop. And Jack Gibbons, who was the most

541
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: outstanding player I want to say in the seventy eight

542
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: final four, Okay, he was there and so like his

543
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: he's got a good stroke, yeah, and so like it

544
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: was just missing him a little bit. And then he

545
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: finally hit one. And then Jack went and got the

546
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: rebound and was like, he's like, you got a good stroke, man,

547
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: keep shooting it. And like that was I'm like, do

548
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: you know who that is? And then it was alumni weekend,

549
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: so Kenny Skywalker was there, Jamal mcglore, a bunch of

550
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: those guys were there. Jeff Shepard was sitting right with

551
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: Reckless there. Dude, I was on the lookout. I didn't

552
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: see him. I feel like if he would have. Here's

553
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: the most crazy thing. His numbers not retired. They've got

554
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: fifteen numbers retired or honored in the rafters. His is

555
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: not one of them, which is crazy to me. How

556
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: his would not be among them. He left real early,

557
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: didn't he sophomore year? Yeah, but still he was King

558
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: Rex like he was King Rex. Yeah, yeah, I don't

559
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: know what their rules are on retired players, but like

560
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: he's probably doing book tours.

561
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 6: He just his book just came out, which is supposed

562
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 6: to be.

563
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I was looking four was King Rex.

564
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 6: I just if you would take if you had sent

565
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 6: me a pick of you with your arm around Rex,

566
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 6: I would have probably.

567
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: Take that photo all the rest of the pheography. Yeah, yeah,

568
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: that's my guy man. But it was fun and it

569
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: made you like, like I love them as a kid

570
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: because of Rex. Same. Yeah, if you were of an

571
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: eight of our age like he was.

572
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 6: The day they have those, you could probably find him

573
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 6: when he gets bigger because they made Remember when they

574
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 6: made that throwback set Nike did it was the Nike

575
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 6: with the slush under it.

576
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: They made U n L V.

577
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 6: Larry Johnson, They made a Chrismal in Saint John's. They

578
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 6: made maybe a Morning Georgetown, and they made a Rex Kentucky.

579
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 6: But the weird thing about it was it's a gray.

580
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, and that's not what they wore.

581
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 6: No, but it's a Gray, Kentucky three. Yeah, I still

582
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 6: have I have one somewhere. I have one signed by him,

583
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 6: your basement.

584
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

585
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: I was on the look up for him everywhere. Yeah,

586
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: it was cool.

587
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: It was cool.

588
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: And but on the way back, I'm like, so there's

589
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: no question, like he's gonna want to go there, as

590
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: if he didn't want to anyway, like this is now.

591
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: It was just such a cool thing he's got to Yeah,

592
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: it was good. It was great. Rest in peace Chris

593
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: Mortenson over the weekend as well.

594
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 6: And Richard Lewis. Since you and I have done a

595
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 6: show together.

596
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: You and I have not done a show since Richie.

597
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: I thought the show last night was it was I

598
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: haven't watched it yet. This won't ruin it, but he's

599
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: in it, and I as you would be, because obviously

600
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: it was filmed a long time ago. I was so

601
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: sad every time I saw him that I didn't really

602
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: watch the episode the same way. Yeah, because every he

603
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: was in a lot and it was like you could

604
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: tell even more so how frail he was when they filmed.

605
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: But it was even exacerbated more in the episode from

606
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Sunday and then knowing that he had passed, So that

607
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: was Uh, well, and I think you'll see that pretty sure.

608
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: Episode two is the one where he's going back and

609
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: forth with Larry, or.

610
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 6: Episode three three when he's about about the percentages of

611
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 6: the estate.

612
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: Yes, well, they get in again, so it's kind of

613
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: distract it's distracting. I don't know what else you would

614
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: have done.

615
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 6: Did they have an in memoriam like open?

616
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: I didn't see. I flipped right as it was starting,

617
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: so I didn't. I didn't they I don't know if

618
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: they did something before, they did something. I'm sure they did.

619
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: They didn't do anything after. But yeah, I'll have to

620
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: give it another watch, just because I was every digest.

621
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't take it in because he was he was

622
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: all over it. As for more it, I I don't

623
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 2: have any time where I've ever crossed paths with him,

624
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: the universal I thought. The most moving thing I heard

625
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: was from Daniel Jeremiah though, for sure when he talked

626
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 2: about that impact that that he had on him and

627
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: moved to tears and that thought that was incredible, like

628
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: how much what a role he played in Daniel Jeremiah's life.

629
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: And it's rare that you see somebody who was just

630
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: universally said the best guy ever, and everybody says.

631
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 6: That, Yeah, I'd gotten to meet him a few times

632
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 6: and interview him a few times, and he was always

633
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 6: couldn't have been nicer, Yeah, could have been nicer, could

634
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 6: have been more gracious, zero air of arrogance, just.

635
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: A good nice guy. Yeah.

636
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's very sad, and it was one of

637
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 6: those things, you know, unfortunately, if you got to see

638
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 6: over the last it feels like six eight years, yeah,

639
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 6: kind of as he battled cancer and saw kind of

640
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 6: just the physical changes and just to the point where

641
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 6: he couldn't, you know, be on TV anymore because he

642
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 6: he battled through it. I think that tells you when

643
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 6: somebody is still put in those positions when clearly they

644
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 6: are they're struggling, it's because of the great respect that

645
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 6: people around them have for them that they're going to

646
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 6: go as long as it can.

647
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: Go, There's no doubt. Yeah, And Jeremiah said that he

648
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: was even texting him about Spencer Rattler look yesterday that

649
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: he passed on Sunday morning, and I guess on Saturday

650
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: he was texted with Jeremiah about how Rattler's going to throw.

651
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 6: Wow, Like, so that was still his Beau was Jeremiah

652
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 6: his wife.

653
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Who was the somebody I saw.

654
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: Gosh, somebody's wife also had cancer and he sent a

655
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Speaker 6: note to Mort and Mort sent him back like the

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Speaker 2: It was okay. Jeremiah. I think got with him when

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Speaker 2: little bit. It's quiet, man. We had this. You and

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Speaker 2: I talked Monday. Let's see no Tuesday at the combine

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Speaker 2: and then you headed back northbound. Just a very different

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Speaker 2: feel to the combine this year with the Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks not throwing, and then nothing got done business wise.

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Speaker 2: It was a very quiet in terms of what you

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Speaker 2: thought that the Fields thing would take momentum. The only

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Speaker 2: thing I can only dot I can connect on that

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Speaker 2: is if maybe there just isn't the market that the

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Speaker 2: Bears thought there would be for.

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Speaker 6: Him, And that was one of the reports that came out.

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Speaker 6: But then those times always feel dubious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it, But like when we were talking

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Chris Rose. I can't remember if

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Speaker 2: it was Tuesday or Wednesday. I was talking to Chris Rose,

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Speaker 2: and he brought up a very good point about, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Rams offense and who McVeigh likes, and the type

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Speaker 2: of quarterback Zach Robbinson, the new offensive coordinator and Atlanta

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Speaker 2: might like and it might not be Fields, that maybe

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Speaker 2: the guy that they would prefer would be cousins. You

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Speaker 2: and I had said that that that would be the

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Speaker 2: more apples, you know, put him right in there and

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Speaker 2: away you go, whereas Fields would take a little bit

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Speaker 2: of conforming from their from their standpoint, But I do

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Speaker 2: wonder if there just isn't the momentum, or the Bears

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Speaker 2: aren't getting back from Fields what they thought they could.

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Speaker 2: It's just poieable. It doesn't it is, and it needs

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Speaker 2: to be done soon. I mean we're eleven days eleven, yeah,

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Speaker 2: March thirteenth, and you haven't.

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Speaker 6: Russ has been quiet Cousins. It sounds like Kevin O'Connell said,

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Speaker 6: Quazy had said earlier in the week that you know,

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Speaker 6: we want to keep him. Kevin O'Connell said, he's going

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Speaker 6: to go to test free agency. He's earned that right

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Speaker 6: and we respect that and we hope to retain him,

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Speaker 6: but he'll be out there. And supposedly there was the report,

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Speaker 6: I think it was on Friday when you were in here,

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Speaker 6: that Arthur Blank had basically given the orders.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't care what it takes. I want Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Oh I missed that entirely. Yeah, where was that was Friday?

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Speaker 2: Was So I missed that entirely.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that would have been Friday.

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Speaker 2: So there's reporting Friday that Blank said I want Cousins somebody. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well that fits more with what they're trying to do offensively.

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Speaker 2: So then the market for fields becomes Raiders, pay Steelers, Patriots.

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Speaker 6: So if you're the Patriots, do you think, okay, we're

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Speaker 6: going to bring Justin fields in here. Yes, and we'll

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Speaker 6: draft Marvin Harrison, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, and here's to even for Butcher's your point. Further,

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Speaker 2: if it was going to be the convention, was them

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Speaker 2: over there was, it was going to take a second

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Speaker 2: day pick and a third day pick. So if that

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Speaker 2: was a two and a four, maybe now it's a

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Speaker 2: three and a five if you're New England, or even

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Speaker 2: if it's a two and a five, you throw that

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Speaker 2: their way to the Bears and then you draft Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Now you got a quarterback and a receiver. Stud let's go. Guy.

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Speaker 2: Should become a fun offense. Yeah, yeah, they could. So

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Speaker 2: that is something to pay attention to. But overall it

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Speaker 2: was quiet. We did get some news today Mike Evans

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Speaker 2: signing a two year extension with Tampa Bay two years,

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Speaker 2: fifty two million bucks. It leaves the tag open for Mayfield,

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Speaker 2: and Antwine.

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Speaker 6: Was gonna say, if you were won ring, they're not

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Speaker 6: attacking Maker. There's no way, no way, no. If you

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Speaker 6: were wondering why it had come out, Mike Evans was

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Speaker 6: going to test free agency, and Mike Evans wanted to

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Speaker 6: go play for a team that had an elite quarterback

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Speaker 6: and could win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 6: And then you say to yourself, but he didn't even

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Speaker 6: get to free agency and he signed his contract today.

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Speaker 6: Why two years fifty two million is the answer.

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Speaker 2: That's why I can't remember if you'd already left, But

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00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: that was we were talking about that in regard to

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Speaker 2: the Vikings, like how they really kind of messed up

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Speaker 2: not ditting the Justin Jefferson deal done last year before

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Speaker 2: the extra thirty million in cap space came in, because

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Speaker 2: what they could have gotten him for last summer versus

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Speaker 2: what they're going to have to pay now.

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Speaker 6: That's why the Browns did a good job getting Delpit

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Speaker 6: that early. But we've done a good job of getting

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Speaker 6: all of our guys kind of before market spikes at

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Speaker 6: their positions, which has been very good for the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very much.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins are not going to franchise tag defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins, making him one of the top free agents available.

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Speaker 2: He was a big price tag.

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Speaker 6: He will He's probably not on our radar, but talking

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Speaker 6: to some people at the time, I want. I had

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Speaker 6: my limited opportunity to talk to some people who knew

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Speaker 6: the Dolphins organization fairly. Well, that was the sense I

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Speaker 6: got that he was not coming back.

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Speaker 2: He was not coming back. Xavier Worthy ran a four

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Speaker 2: tow that's fast, the fastest, Yeah, beat Usain Bolt. But

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Speaker 2: I think didn't he do it in sweatpants? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: The bold stuff was was terrible to you saying he

786
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: was in like basketball shoes and sweatpants and like already retired.

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Speaker 2: He played around like a two eight.

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Speaker 5: He would be, well, faster track speed is different completely.

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Speaker 6: He Uh, what's interesting is so he has the fastest.

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Speaker 6: John Ross was one of the faster ones. Schwartz was

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Speaker 6: one of the faster ones. And that is not necessarily No.

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Speaker 6: Troy Williamson, you remember him way back too, He went

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Speaker 6: way back and then right then he went first round.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say I was Troy Williamson. I

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Speaker 2: was going to say, like Arkansas, I don't know why

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Speaker 2: that was in my mind. Well, that's all we're all

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Speaker 2: over the map on that. Get them t kids to

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Speaker 2: figure that out, I guess.

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Speaker 6: But he went that year because of that, he went

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Speaker 6: like eighth overall.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Williams South Carolina South for all over it.

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Speaker 2: I had you guys are got you had the colors.

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Speaker 2: You guys are at least in the right region. Who

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Speaker 2: the hell am I thinking of from Stanford? From Troy

805
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: they could fly? I don't know, Probably not anybody, honestly,

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Speaker 2: Colby Fleener, Yeah, at least, well, I guess I had

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Speaker 2: the colors sort of. Yeah, we're in the red. He

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00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: similar colors. Yeah, so there you go on that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean success. The kid was a he

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: was a big time recruit at Texas and did put

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Speaker 2: up some numbers there, So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: But it's the overwhelming thing that you kind of take

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Speaker 2: from the combine was that receiver and offensive line are

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Speaker 2: bountiful in this year's class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: That's what I was going to say, is you've got

817
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Speaker 6: If you want a receiver, you want an offensive tackle,

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Speaker 6: you're in.

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Speaker 2: A very good spot in this draft.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think for the Browns, you know, looking

821
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Speaker 6: at it, maybe it does mean instead of spending money

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Speaker 6: on a receiver you do draft one. I think you

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Speaker 6: can probably go into second third rounds and get a

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Speaker 6: good receiver tackle combo back to back and then maybe

825
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Speaker 6: you do spend on a defensive tackle. Yeah, maybe that's

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Speaker 6: the way that you look at it there as opposed

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Speaker 6: to drafting one. Because it wasn't You didn't get the

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Speaker 6: sense that it was a great draft for that position,

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Speaker 6: for the defensive tackle spot. There was some good talent early,

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Speaker 6: but not a ton of talent.

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Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite notes. There's a lingering

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Speaker 2: sense the NFL still wants to get to eighteen regular

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Speaker 2: season games. No, duh, you kidding. No, Yeah, of course

834
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Speaker 2: they're going. You're not gonna stay in a odd number games.

835
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get even as soon as you can. I

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Speaker 2: wish they'd go the other way, honestly, wish they would

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Speaker 2: go sixteen. I just think eighteen is. I like the

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Speaker 2: uniformity of a sixteen game season. From a record's standpoint,

839
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Speaker 2: of course, I just like it. I think sixteen was

840
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Speaker 2: a sweet spot. I think seventeen is. It's just a

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Speaker 2: two more regular season games. It's just a lot. I know,

842
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: we love our football, but man, that's a lot of ball.

843
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: It's a lot of ball to be played, and it's rosters.

844
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: It wreaks havoc on rosters.

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Speaker 6: By the way, for the Browns just to make sure

846
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Speaker 6: everybody's on the same page. Browns have a third a

847
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Speaker 6: second round pick, yeah, fifty fourth overall, a third round pick,

848
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Speaker 6: then two fifths, two sixth and a seventh, so the

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Speaker 6: no fourth round pick. So if you want to get

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Speaker 6: a tack and a I think it feels like almost

851
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Speaker 6: you're thinking receiver, tackle and maybe even running back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: With those first two picks, yeah, maybe you'll move into

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Speaker 6: the fourth round.

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Speaker 5: We've heard that sweet spot for running backs is like

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Speaker 5: third fourth round.

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Speaker 6: Maybe a fifth and a fifth for a fifth and

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Speaker 6: a sixth for a fourth.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that. All right, Coming up next, GiB

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Speaker 2: a one on one with ESPN Draft analyst Matt Miller.

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Speaker 2: Gibbe with Matt Miller here on.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns Daily. Jason Gibbs with you. Happy to be

872
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: joined by ESPN NFL Draft analyst. I'm sure it doesn't

873
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 3: get old when you hear that. It's weird though, it's

874
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: weird from from from the Bleacher Report to ESPN. Yeah,

875
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: your own website still for a little bit there. Yeah,

876
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean ESPN is time consuming. That's that's that's the

877
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: big thing, and super super fortunate. Like you said, I've

878
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: been this is my twelfth combine, so been doing it

879
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: a little while. The great Matt Miller joins us here

880
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: from ESPN NFL Nation and ESPN Draft Reporter for the NFL.

881
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: Follow him on Twitter at NFL Draft Scout. We're back

882
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: at it, man, it's hard to believe super Bowl just

883
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: three weeks ago and quickly turning the page. And what's

884
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: been the vibe here this week as you get ready

885
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: for the combine drills exercises. We're starting to see the

886
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: interviews trickle in. Early takeaways from you.

887
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's it's an exciting class. It really is

888
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 7: this is a year in which, you know, I I

889
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 7: do a top fifty list, I do a first round

890
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 7: prospect list, and it was there were so many guys

891
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 7: I wanted to get out top fifty, you know, like

892
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 7: I'll do conversations like this with you guys, and you

893
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 7: ask me about a player and I'm like, oh, yeah,

894
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 7: he's a top fifty player, and then you go to

895
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 7: make that list like I have seventy top fifty players.

896
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: That math doesn't work. Same with the.

897
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: First round this year, there are so many talented prospects,

898
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 7: great news for the Cleveland Browns, so many talented prospects

899
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 7: that you know, even we did Mel Kiper's mock draft

900
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 7: last night, did a show, you know, tearing it apart,

901
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 7: making fun of Mel, and it was like, man, there's

902
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 7: so many guys that weren't in there, But there was

903
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 7: no one in his first round that I didn't think

904
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 7: belonged there. So that goes to show, you know, I'm

905
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 7: sure fans get tired of us being like this guy's

906
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 7: a first rounder and that guy's you know, it's like.

907
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: Oprah giving away cars, but they are.

908
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 7: They're like thirty five forty players who you could realistically

909
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 7: see in the first round this year.

910
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there are super deep and I mean we've seen

911
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: everything from you know, five to six maybe even seven quarterbacks,

912
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: wide receivers, especially at the top end of that position,

913
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: or deep to maybe offensive linemen going in around number one.

914
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think four quarterbacks without a doubt,

915
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 7: maybe five wide receiver, six seven eight, maybe offensive tackle

916
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 7: same situation, six seven eight.

917
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: We might see a guard, we might see a center

918
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 4: or two. So even just on offense.

919
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 7: I mean we're talking twenty to twenty two picks in

920
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 7: the first round could just be on offense. So it

921
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 7: is a It just is a stacked draft, and it's

922
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 7: fun because when I think about the core positions you

923
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 7: want to build a team with, that's where this draft is.

924
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 7: Deep quarterback, left tackle, wide receiver, defensive end, corner, Like

925
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 7: those are your five positions you really need to nail

926
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 7: to build a winning team. That's what this draft is

927
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 7: great at all.

928
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 3: Right, So we'll get to the defensive side of things

929
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: here in just a minute. Talking with Matt Miller, ESPN,

930
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: NFL Draft analyst and you can catch him on ESPN,

931
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: dot com, all of their platforms. Here. As we get

932
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: closer to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. On the

933
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: offensive side of the football. You mentioned it the wide

934
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: receiver class. It's it's deep at the top, but how

935
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: deep is it throughout the entire draft.

936
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: It's really deep throughout the top.

937
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 7: Like I said, we might see six, seven or eight

938
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 7: go in the first round, we might see the same

939
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 7: number in the second round, and then even in the

940
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 7: third round. There are four or five players in the

941
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 7: third round who I really like and think, man, I

942
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 7: see a situation where that guy as a top three

943
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 7: wide receiver for an NFL team.

944
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 4: So it is really really deep at the top.

945
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 7: I think something you're gonna see with every position group

946
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 7: this year is there is a drop off on Day

947
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 7: three because we had a record low number of underclassman

948
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 7: enter because of the extra twenty twenty COVID year, a

949
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 7: lot of guys didn't enter the draft.

950
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: They opted for another year of college football.

951
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 7: And then also in il is allowing players the opportunity

952
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 7: to stay in college an extra year and have that

953
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 7: you know, financial support where it's not man, let me

954
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 7: get to the NFL and make real money, Like you

955
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 7: can stay you know, at your college and make real

956
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 7: money and continue to develop as a player.

957
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: You mentioned offensive line and wide receiver, and we talked

958
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: a little quarterback as well. We'll get into that as

959
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: we go through this, but the running back position, and

960
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: there's a lot of free agents obviously in the NFL

961
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: at the running back position at the top of their game,

962
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: but this is a running back position where maybe we

963
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: don't see a running back go in the first round,

964
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: and very well maybe not in the top fifty.

965
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

966
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 7: I would say if there's a prop bet on running

967
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 7: backs in the first round, hammer the under because.

968
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 4: I don't think there will be one.

969
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 7: And even in the top fifty, I think is fifty

970
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 7: one is the Dallas Cowboys. That's where I start to think, like, okay,

971
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 7: that could be our first running back. Jonathan Brooks from

972
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 7: Texas maybe would have been in that argument as a

973
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 7: first round guy, but he tours acl in November. That's

974
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 7: going to be a little bit of a delayed return

975
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 7: for him, so that factors into it.

976
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 4: You mentioned the free agent class.

977
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 7: It's interesting that the deepest running back for agency class

978
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 7: we've seen in a long time happens to coincide with

979
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 7: one of the weaker top end running back classes. So

980
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 7: this year at running back, I have six guys in

981
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 7: the third round. I have eight guys in the fourth round.

982
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 7: So like your sweet spot to get.

983
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: A running back this year is the third round or

984
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: the fourth round, and you could be looking at the

985
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: number two or number three running back in the entire

986
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 4: class being coming off the board in the third round.

987
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: On the tackle front and the offensive line, Fred you mentioned,

988
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: it could be ten offensive line, a number of tackles,

989
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: maybe a couple centers, or an interior alignment. Is there

990
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: a drop off after those ten though? I don't think so.

991
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, you know, the first round guys are

992
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 7: up in a category by themselves for good reason. The

993
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 7: second tier of linemen this year, especially on the interior,

994
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 7: is still really really good.

995
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: YEP.

996
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 7: Guys like Cooper BB from Kansas State, Zach Fraser from

997
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 7: West Virginia, they're gonna be second maybe third round picks

998
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 7: for BB. They're gonna start as rookies probably.

999
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 4: Like they're that talented.

1000
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 7: Oftentimes it's just like you got one thing, like maybe

1001
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 7: you're a little short, maybe you're just a touch slow,

1002
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 7: and that's why you're okay. Well, he's the second to

1003
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 7: third round pick instead of the first round here, but

1004
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 7: he's still fantastic. And I think you can look across

1005
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 7: the NFL right now, so many of the best interior

1006
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 7: players were not first round picks. You know, we were

1007
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 7: Kansas City Joe Tooney, create Humphrey, Tray Smith, like they

1008
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 7: built that line a little bit through fre agency, but

1009
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 7: second round pick create Humphrey, sixth round pick and Tray Smith.

1010
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 7: So I think on the interior you can find such

1011
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 7: great value throughout the draft.

1012
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: Talking with Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analysts, catch him

1013
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: on ESPN dot com and all the ESPN platforms. Follow

1014
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: him on Twitter at NFL Draft Scout. To the defensive

1015
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 3: side of the football we go and for the Browns,

1016
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: a lot of guys is an obviously free agent comes

1017
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: before the draft, and so we'll see if we can

1018
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: bring back some of the one year guys that we

1019
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: signed last year. But on the defensive line part of things,

1020
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: defensive tackle right now, there's only two guys coming back.

1021
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: Defensive end looks a little cleaner, a few more guys,

1022
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: but defensive tackle, when you take a look at that

1023
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: position strength, what do we see? Can you wait till

1024
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: day two or day three or is there a significant

1025
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: drop off?

1026
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: No?

1027
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: You should wait till day two.

1028
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 7: Honestly, Byron Murphy from Texas is going to come off

1029
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 7: the board way before the Browns are even on the radar.

1030
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 7: As picking after that, I think there's a drop off

1031
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 7: to his teammate Tovandre Sweat, who's more of your prototypical

1032
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 7: nose tackle. Then you would have Johnny Newton from Illinois

1033
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 7: kind of in that late first early second range, and

1034
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 7: then there is a drop off too. I think I

1035
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 7: have four defensive tackles ranked right around fifty overall, guys

1036
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 7: like Leonard Taylor from Miami, Michael Hall from Ohio State,

1037
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 7: Brandon Fisk from Florida State, who, again you might have

1038
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: one thing, might be a little bit undersized.

1039
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: But still a really really good player.

1040
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 7: Someone's going to factor in, and especially I think for Cleveland,

1041
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 7: it's exciting because you have a defensive coordinator who might

1042
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: be the best doing it, and that that makes you

1043
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 7: excited about let's get some young guys in here. You

1044
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 7: bring in the one year veterans so that you can

1045
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 7: run the system for a year, had a ton of

1046
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 7: success doing that, but I think now you get excited

1047
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 7: about let's start working in some of these young guys

1048
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 7: and again not to keep refforts in Kansas City, but

1049
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 7: they've won two straight Super Bowl so they're allowed to know.

1050
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 7: But that's what they did with Steve Spagnelo. They bring

1051
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 7: Spags in and they signed some you know, cheaper free

1052
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 7: agents to run his system, and then they've been slowly

1053
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 7: drafting building it up, and now you've got a situation

1054
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 7: where you have a great defense. This is mixture, but

1055
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 7: mostly it's young players that you have homegrown, and that's

1056
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 7: how you have to build a win.

1057
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: All right, defensive end. Normally we're talking about a star

1058
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: in the top ten or you know, a go to,

1059
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: can't miss prospect. Not hearing as much Cheddar at the

1060
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 3: defensive imposition. But it doesn't mean it's not deep.

1061
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 4: It's deep.

1062
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 7: This is you know, it's not a Miles Garrett, which

1063
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 7: there's only one of those, but you know there's not

1064
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 7: even there's not that guy. You know, there's not a

1065
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 7: Bosa out there this year. Dallas turn from Alabama is

1066
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 7: a really good player. It's two hundred and forty five pounds,

1067
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 7: so he's gonna become almost scheme specific for some teams

1068
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 7: where you know he's not gonna play, you know, head

1069
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 7: up on the left tackle every down. You know, as

1070
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 7: a true four to three defensive end, he's gonna have

1071
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 7: to play in space a little bit. Jared Verse from

1072
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 7: Florida State is two hundred and sixty pounds, but there's

1073
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 7: not always that great first step burst. So that is

1074
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 7: why we're talking about guys. You know, Dallas Turner maybe

1075
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 7: goes in that eight to twelve range, Jared Vers eleven

1076
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 7: to fifteen range. After that, you know, it goes to

1077
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 7: the depth where you're you're drafting guys like Teris Robinson

1078
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 7: from Missouri. I'm from Missouri. He's one of my favorite

1079
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 7: players in the draft. You know, he's sixty five, two

1080
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 7: hundred and ninety pounds, So it's okay, where do we

1081
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 7: play a guy that's that big? Do we kick him inside?

1082
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 7: Do we play him outside? He did all that from

1083
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 7: a zoo. But you're kind of left with the question of,

1084
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 7: all right, we love what you bring into the table.

1085
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Speaker 7: I haven't seen you do this at one spot consistently,

1086
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 7: so you know you're you're late first round pick at

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00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 7: that point.

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00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: Alright. You mentioned the corner room being very strong, and

1089
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: that's a position of strength. Although you can never have

1090
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: enough corners. What about the linebacker room. What are you

1091
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: seeing here as we get ready for really the big

1092
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: month push leading up for the NFL.

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00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 7: I'll be surprised if we see a first round linebacker.

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00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 7: I think Edrin Cooper from Texas A and M could

1095
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 7: test well enough here today when they work out to

1096
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 7: potentially put himself into that category. But after that, it's

1097
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 7: just a deep linebacker group. A lot of just really

1098
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 7: solid guys. Junior Colson from Michigan is just one of

1099
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 7: the like if we were all just going to sit

1100
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 7: down together and watch football, he's one of the players

1101
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 7: you want to watch. Just fun to watch him play.

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00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 7: You know, He's an attacking linebacker. Jalen Ford from Texas,

1103
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 7: he's great in coverage. There are a lot of guys

1104
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 7: like that. Peyton Wilson for North Carolina State is a

1105
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 7: three down player who's a little bit older and has

1106
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 7: some injury questions, which is why you know the combine

1107
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 7: is so important. But it's a good linebacker class. It's

1108
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 7: much better round two, round three, probably even round four

1109
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 7: than it is early, all right.

1110
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: Talking with Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst, safety position again,

1111
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: another one that maybe we're talking a whole lot about

1112
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: corners we know about, but safeties, what do you see?

1113
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 7: Safeties are hard to evaluate now because of the way

1114
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 7: the college game is played, like everything is attacking the

1115
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: perimeter or a deep shot, so safeties are just really

1116
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 7: putting no man's land. But I would say this year,

1117
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 7: we won't. I don't think we'll see a first rounder.

1118
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 7: I would almost say like, we won't, you know, but

1119
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 7: there's always that one chance. Sure we shouldn't see a

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00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 7: first round safety. We might not see one come off

1121
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 7: the board in the top fifty. It's a lot like

1122
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 7: running back and linebacker this year, where you know, Tyler

1123
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 7: Knuban from Minnesota is a good player, cam Kinchin's from

1124
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 7: Miami is a good player. Kylen Bullock USC is a

1125
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 7: good player. But they each have something in their game

1126
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 7: that makes you say, this is not a premium position anymore.

1127
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 7: It's been devalued to some degree in terms of salary cap.

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00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 7: Let's wait, let's just wait and get a safety. So

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00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 7: I think round two, round three is you're spot to

1130
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 7: do that.

1131
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: When you're prioritizing positions, you know, if you're going through

1132
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: and looking at things, and you do you look ahead

1133
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: to next year and who might be coming out when

1134
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: when you're prioritizing like a class, if you're a front office,

1135
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 3: where where's your level of prioritization?

1136
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: You have to you know, and especially you know at

1137
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: certain positions. You have to do that.

1138
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 7: You know, if you're a team that needs a quarterback,

1139
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 7: you better know what's coming down the pipeline, because if

1140
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 7: you don't take one this year and then you get

1141
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 7: stuck in a year without a top tier quarterback prospect,

1142
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 7: that's not great. And it's the same thing at those

1143
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 7: you know, core positions, left tackle, wide receiver, pass rusher positions,

1144
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 7: and corner.

1145
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: You want to peek ahead. The nice thing about twenty

1146
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 4: twenty five is there's really good wide receivers.

1147
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 7: Again, there's two corners who might be the two best

1148
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 7: players in the entire draft, and it looks like it'll

1149
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 7: be another good offensive tackle class. You have to be

1150
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 7: I think smart teams are looking ahead and preparing that way.

1151
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: No, you're never going to know.

1152
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 7: Like where you're at in the draft order, but you

1153
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 7: do want to know, like strength of the class, where's

1154
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 7: it going to be at, so that if you do

1155
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 7: bypass a defensive end this year, it's like okay, well,

1156
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 7: we feel pretty good we can get one next year.

1157
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: All right, One final one for you. Matt Miller, ESPN

1158
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: NFL Draft analyst kind enough with a few minutes of

1159
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: his time from way back when till till now here

1160
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: at ESPN mel kiper Jr. Best piece of advice you've

1161
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: gotten from me?

1162
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 7: Oh man, he is amazing and has helped my career

1163
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 7: so much. And the few years have been at ESPN,

1164
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 7: he actually told me to have write things down. You

1165
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 7: know that like our generation, everything we do we type,

1166
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 7: and so when you're studying for the draft, you need

1167
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 7: to be able to talk for about ninety seconds about

1168
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 7: five hundred players and you don't know when they're gonna

1169
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 7: get drafted. A producer is gonna come in your ear

1170
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 7: and say be ready this player, and so writing things

1171
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 7: down has been huge for my draft prep. My hands

1172
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 7: are probably getting a lot stronger than they were in

1173
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 7: the past, but it is it's nice to you know,

1174
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 7: when we do even things like this, it's a great

1175
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 7: test of all right, how much do you know about

1176
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 7: players that are gonna get drafted super late and you

1177
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 7: don't have much time to think about what you're gonna.

1178
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: Say or the big teleconference that put you on.

1179
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: That was great. Yeah, we got Yeah, you want to

1180
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 4: talk about practice. It's like speed dating, you know, it's

1181
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 4: like rapid fire.

1182
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 7: No, it's it's so much fun though, And you know,

1183
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 7: doing radio and podcasts really helped my career when I

1184
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 7: was coming up a Bleacher report of Hey, I'll hop

1185
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 7: on a podcast to talk football, and you know, getting

1186
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 7: your voice in your opinions out there more people is invaluable.

1187
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 3: I wish you all the best of luck, Man, continued success,

1188
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: family good, everybody get everyone's good.

1189
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 4: Can't complain. My son's a Chiefs fan, so it's like.

1190
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 7: He's life right right, Absolutely, Yeah, I told him I

1191
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 7: was a Bulls fan of the ninety so I get it.

1192
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 7: You know, we all were probably so it's fine.

1193
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: Exactly except for us in Cleveland because Michael was working

1194
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: our hearts out. Yeah, that's all right. Matt Miller and

1195
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: ESPN NFL Draft Anils appreciate the time. Man, all the

1196
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: best to you.

1197
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 4: Thank you, good.

1198
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Speaker 2: Stuff out of Gibbie and Matt Miller. There coming up

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Speaker 2: next second hour of the program. Our Free Agency, That's true.

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Speaker 2: Our our free agency primer for the Cleveland Browns. Listen

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Speaker 2: Free Agency starting what is it March thirteenth, We'll go

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Speaker 2: That's why it goes.

1209
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 6: It's yeah, we are, like you said, just ten days

1210
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 6: or so away. I think the tampering period begins. What

1211
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 6: that Monday like legal tamper. Yeah, so Monday at noon,

1212
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 6: which is the eleventh, will begin legal tampering. And then Wednesday,

1213
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 6: the thirteenth, at four pm, the new league year starts.

1214
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's that's how that goes, and then we

1215
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: will be off. Andrew Berry has been the general manager here.

1216
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: The plan that he puts in place versus the execution

1217
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: has been batting about a thousand. I don't how many

1218
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: guys has he has? He pointed in free agency that

1219
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: he wanted that he didn't get. It's it feels like

1220
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: every year it's like this is what we need. These

1221
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: are the targets and you go get them. Yeah, and

1222
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: he's done it. So we had last week at the Combine,

1223
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: we had the Denzel restructure. We could have more of

1224
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: those coming, I would assume in the next couple of weeks. Yes,

1225
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: from a free agency standpoint, this is all going to

1226
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: be part of that one big plan. We talked to

1227
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Abn Kevin last week and it's it was, they're not

1228
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: gonna You're not gonna put him down on anything. But

1229
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: like what you can do in free agency will counter

1230
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: what you do in the draft, right, I mean, there's

1231
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: gonna be some overlap.

1232
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 6: Right, Well, it changes it if you check, you know,

1233
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 6: a need off now not to say that they've done

1234
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: a very good job. And you even go back to

1235
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 6: those first years here, you know, you bring in Jack Conklin,

1236
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 6: you draft James Hudson, you bring in you bring in

1237
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 6: a veteran, and you drafted somebody as well. You brought

1238
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 6: in back then it was Austin Hooper and you drafted

1239
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 6: Harrison Bryant. You bought like they did a good job

1240
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 6: of you know, not only for the present, but then

1241
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 6: also looking to the future. So just because they do

1242
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 6: something in free agency doesn't necessarily take it off the list,

1243
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 6: But I do think I think that you're right. We

1244
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 6: have Now we're with our quarterback contract, we are in

1245
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 6: a finite resource period where decisions will be made. How

1246
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 6: are we going to attack certain things and with what resources?

1247
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 6: And the truth of the matter is you certainly want

1248
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 6: a wide receiver to end up being a stud that

1249
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 6: was a draft pick rather than when you're gonna have

1250
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 6: to pay. The likelihood is you know, Amari Cooper, You're

1251
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 6: not gonna be able to have forever. Elijah Moore if

1252
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 6: you are going to pay, has to be paid at

1253
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 6: some point after this season or after this season. And

1254
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 6: then you got, you know, some young guys that you're

1255
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 6: hoping continue to take steps forward. But yeah, there will

1256
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 6: be decisions that have you made about where resources are

1257
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 6: allocated visa the free agency and the draft, and as

1258
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 6: you kind of look at our roster right now, just

1259
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 6: to kind of set the stage for who's the status

1260
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 6: of various players Quarterbacks Deshaun's under contract, during Thomson Robinson's

1261
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 6: under contract, Flacco unrestricted free agent, PJ Walker unrestricted free agent,

1262
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 6: Jeff Driscoll unrestricted free agent, running back Jerome Ford still

1263
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 6: on his rookie deal, Pierre Strong's on his deal, John

1264
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 6: Kelly you have kind of on like a futures deal.

1265
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 6: And then Nick Chubb, who is probably a restructure candidate

1266
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 6: because you just don't know where he is and his

1267
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 6: number is very high.

1268
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's money that can be gotten back there. Yeah,

1269
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean here's the there's your full there's everybody yep

1270
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: from us from a free from a free agent standpoint, Yeah,

1271
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: everybody on that list. So yeah, I mean that's so

1272
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: all of these things. When we were talking to Abu

1273
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 2: and I were and we were talking like how many years,

1274
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: He's like he's three years. Yes, out is the way

1275
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: he's looking. So they were planning for.

1276
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: All of this for sure.

1277
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 6: So like receivers Elijah, Amari Tillman, David Bell are all

1278
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 6: under contract. You've got Darden, Mike Woods as well. The

1279
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 6: unrestricted's Goodwin who's on proche Jaqem Grant tight end. Everybody

1280
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 6: is back except Harrison Bryanton unrestricted free agent on the

1281
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 6: offensive line, Jared Christian is your only unrestricted free agent

1282
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 6: at the tackle position. On the interior, it's just Michael

1283
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 6: Dunn and Nick Harris. So you actually have a lot

1284
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 6: of stability there defensive tackle, This is where you run

1285
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 6: into some numbers issues. Shelby Harris is an unrestricted free agent,

1286
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 6: Maurice Hurs is an unrestricted free agent. Jordan Elliott is

1287
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 6: an unrestricted free agent. So that means you just have

1288
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 6: Dalvin and Ika. Something's got to be done there on

1289
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 6: the edge. Only Zadarius is not back, so Miles Alex, Ryan, Obo,

1290
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 6: karankor Back is your top three for sure, but I

1291
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 6: think they would like to have Zadarius back. Sam Kamara,

1292
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 6: who got some run for the Browns, is kind of

1293
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: a defensive end defensive tackle hybrid. He is an exclusive

1294
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 6: rights free agent, which means the Browns will have the

1295
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 6: ability to keep him if that's what they want to do.

1296
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 6: Linebacker a Walk, Kunashik, Phillips, Taki Taki, Matthew Adams all

1297
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 6: unrestricted free agents. Adams a big player on special teams,

1298
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 6: Taki and in Kunashik's good player on special teams. Taki's

1299
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 6: a stud. Awak's been kind of the leader of this defense.

1300
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 6: Corner's only Mike Ford junior, but again big special teams

1301
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 6: player and was your fourth corner for a lot of

1302
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 6: this season. Safeties Rodney McLoud and then of course Jaron

1303
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 6: Harmon who came on late in the year, and then

1304
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 6: Corey Bilhorkis. So those are your free agents this season

1305
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 6: and as you sit right.

1306
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: Now, So then that question becomes, all right, if we

1307
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: are going to be aggressive in free agency, and I

1308
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: think we look, you're gonna be aggressive in free agency.

1309
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're going to spend thirty million on

1310
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: a play. I mean, that's we can't do that. It's

1311
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: not the way. That's not work. So I would you

1312
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: tell me what I think there are you mentioned all

1313
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: those linebackers. I think there's some restructure, there's there's some

1314
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: of those guys will be back. Yeah, would be shocked

1315
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: if they weren't. I think defense, if I'm going to

1316
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: do need, it's defensive tackle, and its weapon weapon weapon weapons,

1317
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: So that's running back, slash receiver, and it's defensive tackle.

1318
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: Those are the major things. Because you did see some

1319
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: signs at defensive end, like sure you want to have

1320
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: Zidarius back, but you also saw something saw something from

1321
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: Obo and so right as well, So you you saw

1322
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: a little bit of that as as the season went along. Yeah,

1323
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: but that's it. It's going to be d tackle and receiver.

1324
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: So when when you look at let's just take a

1325
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: look at the dtackles for example, that are free agents

1326
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: at the top, it's I mean like Christian is gonna

1327
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: be back in Kansas City. Yes, you're not going to

1328
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: be in those waters. It's Chris Jones, it's DJ Reader. Now,

1329
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: Fletcher Cox knows Jim Schwartz, No, Schwartz thirty three years old,

1330
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: one year deal. As you look through that sports track, folks,

1331
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: if you if you want to, they can they do

1332
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: the best of this, Like you can break this down

1333
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: by age, by salary, who's available, who's free agents? You

1334
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: can quickly kind of go through it and see some

1335
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: of the names that are out there. Christian Wilkins who

1336
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: just was was not tagged by Miami, justin Mattabique. Yeah, yeah,

1337
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: so that there's some there's some names there who jumps

1338
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,479
Speaker 2: out to you in terms of that could make sense.

1339
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, uh, Fletcher Cox on a one year deal, Sheldon

1340
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 6: Rankins on a one year deal, Denico Autry on a

1341
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 6: one year deal. Maybe Javon Kinlaw as somebody that was

1342
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 6: a former first round pick young hasn't really kind of

1343
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: worked out, but yeah, that could be somebody as well,

1344
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 6: so those are those are some of the names that

1345
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 6: I think that you could be, uh, you could be

1346
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 6: looking at and then.

1347
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: You have that same conversation conversation at wide receiver and

1348
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: you're it's you're looking for burners, right, is what we

1349
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: need so.

1350
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 6: That you really Calvin Ridley is probably the best guy

1351
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 6: in terms of somebody who could become a number one

1352
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 6: for you. We're not getting T Higgins otherwise, yes, he would,

1353
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 6: it would be T Higgins. I think Calvin Ridley is

1354
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 6: probably going to be the best wide receiver that actually

1355
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 6: hits the market this year. Hollywood. Brown's got a ton

1356
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 6: of speed. Former first round pick Darnell Mooney was a

1357
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 6: thousand plus yard receiver a couple of years ago in Chicago,

1358
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 6: and then there's Gabe Davis. Beyond that, there's nothing that

1359
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 6: the Browns would be looking for. I think beyond maybe

1360
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 6: Ridley Brown, Davis, and perhaps Darnell Mooney, there's not there

1361
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 6: is anybody at the top but kJ Osbourne I would be.

1362
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 6: I wouldn't think Odell No, Tyler Boyd's a slot. Curtis

1363
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: Samuel's just not that's not what you're looking for. So

1364
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 6: you might have a better chance of getting somebody in

1365
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 6: the draft and eventually we got to hit on one

1366
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 6: of these guys.

1367
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: That's part of the thing.

1368
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 6: You drafted three third round receivers already and you really

1369
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 6: haven't gotten a ton of production out of them, so

1370
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 6: that something the Browns have to hit.

1371
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: That's something they have to hit on running backs.

1372
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 6: I do think that perhaps you know, like a a

1373
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 6: Zach Moss who showed pretty well in Indianapolis this year,

1374
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 6: could maybe make some sense. You're gonna need either Kareem,

1375
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 6: a rookie like Kareem, perhaps a kid out of Notre

1376
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 6: Dame what's his name?

1377
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: Who know?

1378
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 6: Sm estimate, Yeah, he ran slow, right, but he is

1379
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 6: His tape would say he is not slow, and he

1380
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 6: could be We need that hammer. He could be a

1381
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 6: hammer like that for the Cleveland Browns. But yeah, that's

1382
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 6: where you're That's kind of where you're looking. Tight end

1383
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 6: is an interesting one to me. My guess is you

1384
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 6: probably will draft a guy Noah fan to somebody that

1385
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 6: has a size speed thing that we might be interested

1386
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 6: in former first round pick again, as we kind of

1387
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 6: like that that look. But at the same time, I

1388
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 6: think we're gonna be a much more eleven personnel team

1389
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 6: this year, and you've got Aikens, who I think fits

1390
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 6: probably what this offense is going to be better than

1391
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 6: he fit what this offense was last year. Aikin's the

1392
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 6: guy that I want to get more production out of it.

1393
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 6: Every time he got an opportunity, he was pretty darn good.

1394
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: What did you make of because so much of this

1395
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver, you know, we didn't. It's funny like what

1396
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 2: we perceived our wide receiving group to be and what

1397
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: it actually was were two widely different things. Like we

1398
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: did not get the production out of Elijah other than

1399
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: an instances when Amari was out and then he really flashed.

1400
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: It was like, boy, we got to find a way

1401
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: to get some more people eating.

1402
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Good.

1403
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: One obviously was derailed by the injuries. He was spectacular

1404
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: in mini camp, but the health scare derailed him and

1405
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: he was I don't know if he was ever quite

1406
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: the same. And then Tilman's a guy who flashed and

1407
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: you saw the body, but it just it never clicked

1408
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: the way that you thought it would.

1409
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 6: No, it didn't, and that was I think, in many

1410
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 6: ways disappointing. So for Elijah career high in catches and

1411
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 6: yards this season, but to your in yards from scrimmage.

1412
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 6: But you're right, it felt like you only got to

1413
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 6: see it in the games when Amari wasn't featured. Yeah,

1414
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 6: which makes you think could he do it? I mean

1415
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 6: he did it against the Jets in a very very

1416
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 6: important game against one of the best pass defenses in

1417
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 6: the NFL. That was probably his best game. He only

1418
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 6: played what a half in that game before he got hurt,

1419
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 6: and he had I think six for sixty eight and

1420
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 6: a touchdown against Let's see, I'm pulled over Fess five

1421
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 6: for sixty one in a touchdown on six targets in

1422
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 6: the first half, so he can be that number one

1423
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 6: guy when he's featured that way. And the games where

1424
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 6: he got significant targets in the second half of the season,

1425
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 6: once they decided like, okay, we're going to give him

1426
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 6: some some targets five for forty four a touchdown, six

1427
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 6: for sixty, four for eighty three, five for sixty one

1428
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 6: in a touchdown. It was the games where he had

1429
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 6: the two targets, three targets, four targets that he didn't

1430
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 6: do much in those games. So maybe there is something

1431
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 6: to begin and I think this offense should suit him more.

1432
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 6: But yeah, our receiving group did not perform a career

1433
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 6: from Amari Cooper. But to your point, Tillman, you know,

1434
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 6: David All catches a touchdown uncovered against the Jags, and

1435
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 6: he hads two against the starters of the Bengals with

1436
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 6: Jeff Driscoll. But he had for the season fourteen for

1437
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 6: one sixty seven and three. Tillman had twenty one for

1438
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 6: two twenty four no touchdowns. You know, we weren't even

1439
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 6: getting anything out of DPJ, who had been proven to

1440
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 6: be at least a solid receiver in our system prior

1441
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 6: eight for ninety seven in his seven games.

1442
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: So it was weird.

1443
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 6: I think one of the things that we've got to

1444
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 6: be focused on right is how do we get the

1445
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 6: ball to more people. Now, Chief and Amari combined for

1446
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 6: over twenty one hundred yards and eleven touchdowns. We threw

1447
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: for four thousand yards and twenty four.

1448
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: Touchdowns, So half the production two guys who got more

1449
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: than more more than yardage wise. Yeah, that's not good to.

1450
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 6: And if you had Jerome Ford in as the top

1451
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 6: back that they combined, those three combined for sixteen of

1452
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 6: your twenty four touchdowns.

1453
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got you gotta get more diversifying offensively

1454
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: you and I'm sure that's something that Ken will bring

1455
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: to the offense. And I just talking to Kevin last week,

1456
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: like one of the things that he lit up was

1457
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: this notion of yes, we loved, we really loved working

1458
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: with the people who were here. But he is a learner,

1459
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: and so it sparks his curiosity to talk to others

1460
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: and ideas come. And you could tell that even in

1461
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: the early workings of the relationship with Ken, that there

1462
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: was going to be that that he's he's enjoying it.

1463
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: He's enjoying learning from somebody else and hearing somebody else's

1464
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: ideas and principles, and that has to be I think

1465
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: the things that you got to be to compete in

1466
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: this AFC. And we'll get into the defensive questions with

1467
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: the linebacker and tackles and free agency in a second,

1468
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: but I think the thing that you've got to be

1469
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: you got to be dynamic, and you've got to be diversified.

1470
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: You have to You think about Kansas City. Now they've

1471
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: got a wizard at quarterback to set that part aside,

1472
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: But you didn't know who was going to get you

1473
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: a given week, like there were a nightmare from a

1474
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: fantasy perspective, you could not play any of those guys

1475
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: because you had no idea than Pacheco and Kelsey who

1476
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: was going to be there every week. Everybody else it

1477
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: was pick your poison. Yeah, but no, no, no, not Crazy,

1478
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: not sky More No, not sky Moore Guru, he was not.

1479
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: So the question becomes, then, how do we get more dangerous?

1480
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: How do you get more diversified? Yes, that's the focus.

1481
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: So to me, you've got to have you need to

1482
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: have a hammer in that backfield, and then I'd like

1483
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: to have a home run hitter in the backfield. And

1484
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of those. We don't have

1485
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: home run hitters. We are we are a ten to

1486
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, like our scoring drives are ten plays, twelve plays,

1487
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: thirteen plays. You need a couple, you need plays eighty easy.

1488
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: You need a couple of those where let's get an

1489
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: easy one here. Everything for us takes a lot. So

1490
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: we have to get more dangerous. And I think my

1491
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: hunch is that's what this is going to be a

1492
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: lot of it. Now, some of that will come with DeShawn.

1493
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: A healthy DeShawn will give you that danger. Yes, but

1494
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: you need to have it at receiver, and I think

1495
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: both at receiver and it running back I think are

1496
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 2: exactly right. And I think that was one of the

1497
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: things that was lacking.

1498
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 6: Now we get sorted to get some of that with

1499
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 6: Flacco and our ability to kind of hit those shot plays.

1500
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 6: But I think Pierre Strong has the ability to be

1501
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 6: a dangerous running back.

1502
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: So is it, I really is it the pass pro

1503
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: that got him? Because he flashed more. You're right, Like

1504
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: the times that you would see him, you go, there's

1505
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: more there, there's a little something there, but then it

1506
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: never we never got to see it full time. So

1507
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: just so usually what what I've learned in all the

1508
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: years doing this, or even at the college level, is

1509
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: if a guy flashes and has physical skills but isn't

1510
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: getting the run the way you'd expect, it's usually trust.

1511
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 6: Trust, write something, assignments. He led the team in yards

1512
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 6: for carry four point six. You know, he was outside

1513
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 6: of Nick Chubb. He was the only guy who had

1514
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 6: fifty carries or more that averaged more than four yards

1515
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 6: per carry. The only one Nick Chubb obviously six yards

1516
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 6: of carry in his twenty eight that went for one

1517
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy but Pierre Strong was. Yeah, he was

1518
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 6: that guy that it felt like had the opportunity. Here's

1519
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 6: another thing. One of the things that stats they track

1520
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 6: at at a Pro Football Reference is success rate on runs.

1521
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb was fifty seven percent, Pierre Strong was fifty

1522
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 6: one percent. Yeah, Kareem was forty six percent, and Jerome

1523
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 6: Ford was thirty nine percent. So he had a success

1524
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 6: rate over fifty percent, which for a running back is

1525
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 6: very very good. You think about Nick Chobb average six

1526
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 6: point one his carry, he's at fifty seven. Piersar was

1527
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 6: at fifty one. So when it's he can play, and

1528
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 6: I wonder if we have in our mind a bigger

1529
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 6: role for him, which is why I think you might

1530
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 6: need a hammer compliment. That's something that I'll do a

1531
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 6: little digging on. But he is the answer. He was

1532
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 6: the fastest running back in the combine two years ago.

1533
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 6: He's the answer in terms of a scary prospect.

1534
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's so that so that's what you need.

1535
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: So I guess offensively, And this is why, because you

1536
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 2: have you could roll the team you have now. You

1537
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: don't have to get a starter stud or any of that.

1538
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: These are all luxury things. This is all, hey, let's

1539
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: try to go win the AFC things. So depending on

1540
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: so to answer this question of like more likely to

1541
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: acquire these things, I think you're going to try. You

1542
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 2: go out in free agency first and then you do

1543
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: the draft. But I think they're in concert. Yes, agreed,

1544
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: they are.

1545
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 6: It's all part of the plan and where you may

1546
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 6: be able to you know, think you're going in one direction,

1547
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 6: but then a free agent's value pops up to you

1548
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 6: that is better than you thought. You can make that

1549
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 6: move there. But the Browns are going to have to

1550
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 6: I'm with you, weapons for sure. And then they've got

1551
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 6: to figure out, you know, what they're going to do

1552
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 6: at the front in the interior and what they're going

1553
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 6: to do at the second level in the interior of

1554
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 6: the defense, the middle of the defense. You need another

1555
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 6: defensive tackle. Who you're going to bring back, who you're

1556
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 6: going to add is it a draft free agent or both?

1557
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 6: Who are you going to bring in a linebackers a

1558
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 6: draft free agent or both?

1559
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: Those are the only two now you bring to the

1560
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: defensive side. Those are things where you have to sign

1561
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: people or draft people to play. Are those as we

1562
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: stand right now? Because we just don't have we don't

1563
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: have enough linebackers. We don't have buse tackles, so you're

1564
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna have to sign people to be able to play there.

1565
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 2: If you were to put yourself in Andrew Berry's shoes,

1566
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: which what is your? What is his? What do you

1567
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 2: think his number one priority is?

1568
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 6: I would think weapons. I mean, this is an offensive league.

1569
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 6: It's about supporting your quarterback. That's what this is all about.

1570
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 6: So I would think weapons is probably the number one priority,

1571
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 6: and the next is probably I bet he's thinking weapons

1572
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 6: first and foremost. Second, bringing back Zadarius or another edge

1573
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 6: that they like a lot, Then probably shoring up the

1574
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 6: defensive tackle room. And I think you've got to have

1575
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 6: some type of planning for your offensive line.

1576
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, you can't. You can't keep having that

1577
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: type of IDA feels.

1578
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 6: To me, these are not scores. It just feels to

1579
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 6: me like we might have to make a move on

1580
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:00,959
Speaker 6: the offensive line.

1581
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: Soon.

1582
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 6: Because you're three Buttonio, Posik, and Teller multiple time Pro

1583
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 6: bowlers at both guards and postik. They're all being paid.

1584
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 6: Jed Wills is being paid, Conkline's being paid. Dewand is

1585
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 6: not really I mean, he's being paid as a fourth

1586
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 6: round or on the second year.

1587
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: Of dirrect and he has to start. Yeah, he might

1588
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: be your best tackle. He is your best tackle.

1589
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I don't think you pay a tackle twelve

1590
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 6: to thirteen million to not play. And so then the

1591
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 6: question becomes, do you just move a tackle?

1592
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: Now?

1593
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: We needed five this year.

1594
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 6: So it's a nice luxury to have, but at the

1595
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 6: same time, it's it's too expensive of a luxury. You wonder,

1596
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 6: could Dewand play left? Could Jed play right? Could Dwand

1597
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 6: play left? Jack play right? Could Jed if you had

1598
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 6: to make a different move? Could Jed play somewhere in

1599
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 6: the heior I think that I think understanding that puzzle

1600
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 6: and the finances because right now you're paying five offensive

1601
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 6: linemen good money, yes, and you're not paying one guy

1602
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 6: who's got to play, So that means you're paying somebody

1603
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 6: who's not gonna play barring injury. And now you have

1604
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 6: the luxury of waiting to see how that maybe somebody

1605
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 6: gets hurt in camp or something like that. Yeah, but

1606
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 6: I do think that is something that that's a position

1607
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 6: that should be monitored as potential a potential way to

1608
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 6: acquire an asset and take money.

1609
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 2: Off of the books.

1610
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 6: Like the Browns just and I'm not suggesting that they

1611
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 6: trade any of these people. This is purely for the

1612
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 6: sake of discussion, because we were just talking about it.

1613
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 6: On a pre June first trade, a pre it would

1614
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 6: be designated. Probably a pre June first trade you could save.

1615
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 6: You'd have to post June first as ignation. You would

1616
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 6: save with Jed Wills fourteen million dollars with Botonio, which

1617
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 6: I don't see happening, eight point five million, Conklin would

1618
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 6: be six point three million, White Teller be six point

1619
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 6: four million.

1620
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: So fourteen million is a big, big, big, big boy,

1621
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: big number.

1622
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 6: Yeah right now, And this is what I mean why

1623
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 6: it's not sustainable. So here are top cap numbers going

1624
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 6: into this season. Number one Deshaun Watson, number two, Amari Cooper,

1625
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 6: number three, Miles Garrett, number four Nick Chubb. That all

1626
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 6: makes sense, Nick job. Obviously the health is makes it less.

1627
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 6: But then here we go number five, Jed Wills six,

1628
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 6: Ward seven, Botonio eight, Conklin nine, Teller. Yeah, that's four

1629
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 6: of your top ten, our offensive line top nine. And

1630
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 6: then you have Chief Dalvin greg newsom Obo Thornhill Posik.

1631
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another alignment. So you got that's so one.

1632
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 6: Five of your top fifteen salaries are on the offensive line.

1633
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: That's four of which are in your top.

1634
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 4: Nine.

1635
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: Not tenable, bud, that's not tenable, not tenable. We'll do

1636
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: a little NFL combine stock up stock down coming up next,

1637
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Speaker 2: a time for little NFL combine stock Up stock Down

1647
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: VI the NFL dot COM's Chad Ryder. Uh, you know,

1648
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: how did it go? Once? Once I left on what

1649
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: was your?

1650
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 3: What was? What was I? Was it?

1651
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: Thursday?

1652
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 3: No?

1653
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: Wednesday? I left after Wednesday? Thursday? I was gone? Yes?

1654
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 3: How was that? Was it?

1655
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: Still busy over there?

1656
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1657
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 3: A lot of people.

1658
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, still out and about.

1659
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was dying down, man, a little bit dying down,

1660
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: but there were still some people hammering and then yeah.

1661
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,839
Speaker 6: But then on the weekend it was all the big position.

1662
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 6: I mean, it's long, it's too long, too long.

1663
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 5: I feel like more people probably got there as the

1664
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 5: weekend went on for all the workouts and stuff, because

1665
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys watched, there was like

1666
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 5: a ton of fans in the stands there. It was

1667
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 5: which felt new, like when Worthy ran that four to

1668
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 5: two to one the place with nuts. Yeah, Like the

1669
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 5: fans in the stands was a really cool thing.

1670
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 2: I think in the old day they used to have that.

1671
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: They used to have fans in the stands, and they

1672
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: went away from it, and now it looks like they

1673
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: brought it back. So all right, very good, all right,

1674
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: you know what do you have.

1675
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: For us.

1676
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 5: From Chad Ryder and NFL dot com?

1677
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 3: Uh?

1678
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he listed them four separate days, so we'll just

1679
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 5: have to go day by day.

1680
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: All right, that's good, We've got we got to Yeah,

1681
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 2: that's a good day.

1682
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,879
Speaker 5: Stop stock down for day one. That was the defensive

1683
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 5: lineman day. He had stock up from Brandon Fisk, Jay

1684
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 5: likes Hunt, Byron Murphy, Chop Robinson, Devandre Sweat, and Dallas Turner.

1685
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 5: The big ones there for me were Turner and Robinson.

1686
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: Robinson ran a four to four eight in the forty

1687
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 5: yard dash at defensive end.

1688
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: He's a kid out of Penn State. Penn State, Yeah,

1689
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: there player, he got hurt in the Ohio State game,

1690
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: was kind of unblockable for a little while. And really

1691
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: liked him as a prospect. So the fact that that

1692
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: didn't that's fast, really fast.

1693
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 5: Two hundred and fifty four is a great size for

1694
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 5: him too. And then to run four four eight, Yeah,

1695
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 5: those are the big ones. Dallas Turner has somebody called

1696
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 5: it like the Wemban Yama wingspan. For him, he had

1697
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 5: crazy long arms, so I think that was his biggest win.

1698
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 5: Like he ran a good time, but the arm length

1699
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 5: at defensive end, he's going to be.

1700
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 4: Able to just.

1701
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 5: Like take tackles over with his arm size. So that

1702
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 5: was the big win for Dallas. Yeah, and then that

1703
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 5: one of the guys. I got to talk to Jay

1704
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 5: Lixx Hunt from Houston Christian He's a converted safety. He

1705
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 5: started at Cornell as a safety, went to Houston Christian

1706
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 5: as a defensive end four to six for it.

1707
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: It was good for him.

1708
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 5: But I think it was the fact that when he

1709
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 5: was doing the drills, he looked like a defensive end,

1710
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 5: and he looked like the transition from him from safety

1711
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 5: to end was really coming into its own. And I

1712
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 5: think people think he's going to be a day two paygas.

1713
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: What did he weigh? You know, I can find it.

1714
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 6: My guess is just from reading the profile. My guess

1715
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 6: is he's more gonna be a fit for a three

1716
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 6: to four as a stand up yeah, six four, two fifty.

1717
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 6: He's probably an edge in like a three to four

1718
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 6: where it could be a stand up linebacker.

1719
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1720
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 5: I think he had to put on a lot of

1721
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 5: weight too. That was the key for him. Like moving

1722
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 5: from safety to end, you're gonna have to, yeah, to

1723
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 5: put on a lot. But him him really looking like

1724
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 5: a defensive end in the drills, that's a big win

1725
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 5: because that's a really not a transition that you see

1726
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 5: all too often.

1727
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's good.

1728
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 6: Some of the defensive tackles, obviously, those are people to

1729
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 6: uh to look at for the Browns.

1730
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, Griff and I were talking back here. Grift got

1731
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 5: to look at Braiden Fisk from Florida State and he's

1732
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 5: now all in on the braid and Fisk train super

1733
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 5: athletic tackle.

1734
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 2: Ask Griff if he thinks he'll be there at fifty four.

1735
01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 5: Griff, he says, probably not, And I think before the combine.

1736
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: Yes, That's why this is difficult from our vantage point

1737
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: because the people who are going to impress the most

1738
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 2: are going to be long gone by the time we pick. Also,

1739
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: they're all going to be gone, you know, for us,

1740
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 2: we actually need the losers. We need the combine losers

1741
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,480
Speaker 2: who have who are winners.

1742
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 6: With tape so that can fall the running back from

1743
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 6: Notre Dame.

1744
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: That's it. That's an example of somebody who was a

1745
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: combine loser but could be a big winner for us

1746
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: because we're just going to wait around.

1747
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1748
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: So that's that's why this is difficult.

1749
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 5: The one that I saw later on that was a

1750
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 5: loser who could be a winner as Troy Franklin from Oregon.

1751
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 5: They said he was a loser because his on field work.

1752
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah it wasn't good, it wasn't good, but still ran

1753
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 5: a four to four to one. The speed is still there,

1754
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 5: So I think I didn't see a lot when I

1755
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 5: watched him that he was, that he had drop issues

1756
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 5: and things like that. So keep an eye on those

1757
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: guys that like pay attention more to the tape than

1758
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 5: what they do at the combine. Those numbers are important,

1759
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 5: but just because you lose the combine does not mean

1760
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 5: you're a bad prospect.

1761
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: Here's one thing we know about Andrew Berry like in

1762
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 2: terms of what they've drafted. They like guys who are

1763
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 2: identified early as studs. Yes, they like guys who have

1764
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: huge measurable upside yes and huge talent upside, and they

1765
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 2: will throw the dice yes on the rest because you

1766
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 2: bring him into our culture. Our culture is great, our

1767
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: atmosphere is great, or leadership's great. It's not that's what

1768
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna say.

1769
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 6: It's not often that you get fortunate enough to have

1770
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 6: a Jok fall in the second round or a Delpit

1771
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 6: fall in the second round. We've done a very good

1772
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 6: job of taking advantage of that. But when you get guys,

1773
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 6: for example, in the third round and even sometimes into

1774
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 6: the second you're betting on a certain trait that you

1775
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 6: think is great.

1776
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 3: You know, M.

1777
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: J Emerson probably was available to the Browns and Thurn

1778
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: because he didn't have a ton.

1779
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 6: Of ball production at Mississippi State. Correct, but they believed

1780
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 6: he could play that press man corner and they liked

1781
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 6: his ability to do that or play in a cover

1782
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 6: three scheme to be kind of that tall outside guy

1783
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 6: in a cover three where you're basically man on the outside.

1784
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's what you have to do.

1785
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 6: Find that and then if you find the right trade

1786
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 6: and it comes to be, because everybody at that point

1787
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 6: has got some flaw, otherwise they'd be going in the

1788
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 6: first round.

1789
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, So that's what it is. Yeah, you know,

1790
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 2: what else do you have here?

1791
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 5: Some of the other things of note. A guy that

1792
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people have, he's kind of

1793
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 5: been put on the national stage.

1794
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 4: Now.

1795
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: Is Quinnon Mitchell from Toledo the cornerback. Yep, he ran

1796
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 5: a four three to three in the forty and he

1797
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 5: had a great Senior Bowl too.

1798
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: This is a guy that's in the first round, right,

1799
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 2: He's going in the first round.

1800
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's probably going to be the I would guess

1801
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 5: like the second corner off the board. He's going to

1802
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 5: be Arnold from Alabama and then him. But I think

1803
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 5: like he just put his name on the national stage

1804
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 5: for everybody now, like you see the forty time. Yeah,

1805
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 5: and good for him too. Like staying at Toledo, I

1806
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 5: know in this day and age, it's not easy to

1807
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 5: stay at the small school. That was something that stood

1808
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 5: out to me was there's a couple of guys who

1809
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 5: could be top one hundred players who are stayed in

1810
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 5: the MAC or stayed in their smaller school despite their

1811
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 5: talent and the nil and all that stuff.

1812
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's amazing is that that they weren't

1813
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: poached at some place and and brought in for money,

1814
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: that they were able to develop and that that's a

1815
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: testament to kid and it speaks to how much of

1816
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 2: an inexact science this is. Yes, you just don't know

1817
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: like how a kid is going to develop, what their

1818
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: work ethic is, what their giba damn is, all of

1819
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: those things. Distractions will be Yeah, yeah, yeah, all of it.

1820
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 2: Who do you got in the receiver room there? You

1821
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: know on the receiver day three? On day three on

1822
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: deeth give me the day three winners and losers. Xavier

1823
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: Worthy was the winner.

1824
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 5: He was the biggest winner. You know, four to four

1825
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 5: one is pretty impressive. Griff's guy, Lad McConkie coming in

1826
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 5: with a four three nine.

1827
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: So he's, uh, he's the kid out of Georgia. Yes,

1828
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 2: he's he is in the Hunter Renfro slot guy, like,

1829
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: that's that's his stick. He runs very very good routes.

1830
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: He gets some separation. It's I don't think it's a

1831
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: fit for.

1832
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 5: What we need, but it's I wouldn't have said, but

1833
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 5: with a four three nine. He was a lot faster

1834
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 5: than I thought he was going to be because he

1835
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 5: looked they were giving him Cooper Cup cops. Yeah, and

1836
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 5: then he ran three tenths faster than Cooper Cup.

1837
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1838
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 5: So he's an interesting one. I don't know that he's

1839
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 5: necessarily a burner, but that time yeah, that time.

1840
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: Flash a little bit.

1841
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, JJ McCarthy listed as a winner. He is probably

1842
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 5: the one play like, the one quarterback in this class

1843
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 5: nobody knows what to make of.

1844
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 2: So I liked him a lot at Michigan from the

1845
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: Santoll there. Yeah, and he's a gamer man, like when

1846
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 2: it came time to make a big throw, he made him.

1847
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: He made him in the Buckeye Games the last two years,

1848
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: he's made him in the playoff this year. He's a leader.

1849
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 2: They follow him, They they revolve around him. I could

1850
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: see him someone really really falling in love with him.

1851
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: I really could. Denver. I don't know if you'll get there.

1852
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: If he gets there though, because they're twelve.

1853
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Denver is eleven minutes eleven and Atlanta was the

1854
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 5: first spot. People were saying it at eight.

1855
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 2: So in Atlanta, if Atlanta did that, they I mean,

1856
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: they'd have to really love him because everything else is

1857
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: set up to win now, so that would you do,

1858
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: would have to not get cousins and you'd have to

1859
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: do that. Who knows. If he gets to eight, he

1860
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 2: his stock may improve that to point where it's over

1861
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 2: Jayden and Daniels or over Drake May. It could.

1862
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 5: There were there seemed to be some rumors about him

1863
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 5: being the third quarterback.

1864
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: There's always those rumors coming out of the combine because

1865
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: people are reactionary to what just happened. We stilept two

1866
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: months to the draft.

1867
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's plenty of the combine. Malik Willison was going

1868
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 6: in the top five. Yeah, and the third round.

1869
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 5: I would still personally take Drake May and Jayden and

1870
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 5: Daniels over him, but I could see why teams are

1871
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 5: starting to like him.

1872
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: I'll just tell you this on Jane Daniels and the

1873
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: big one. Here's the other thing on Daniels. Daniels stat

1874
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 2: padded the last month of the season at a tremendous rate. Tremendously.

1875
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 5: Yes, he played against what Campbell was.

1876
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 2: They played some garbage teams in the last month and

1877
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: and he benefited tremendously from that. JJ never did that

1878
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: at mission, and they run a totally different offense. I mean,

1879
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: there's gonna be two LSU receivers in the first round

1880
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: of this draft, so Michigan didn't have that type of

1881
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: weaponry at all. So I think I think that's something

1882
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: to to watch for on on JJ. The Drake may

1883
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: one is it's tough with him because you know what

1884
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: where where are the big time things where you go?

1885
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 2: My god, did you see what he just did? Like

1886
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 2: he was He's been identified young, incredibly athletic family. His

1887
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: brother's the one at North Carolina who hit that shot

1888
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 2: at the buzzer to beat Was it Kentucky in the

1889
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 2: final four the Elite Eight a few years ago en

1890
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 2: route to a national title. Luke Mays' brother, Yeah, that

1891
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: was Kentucky. I think that was Kentucky. So they there,

1892
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: He's a big time athlete, big time player. But it's

1893
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: silly season right now.

1894
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: It's what it is.

1895
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 5: And mayde in May not throwing was an interesting one

1896
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 5: for a lot of his didn't throw, and Daniels didn't throw.

1897
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: Well, the top three guys didn't. And I think what

1898
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: they're all saying is the tape. My resume is my tape,

1899
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: and I'll see it pro day. That's what they're doing.

1900
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, and and JJ goes out there and throws, and

1901
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 5: that was I think whether whatever he looked like on

1902
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 5: the field, the win was that he went out there

1903
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 5: and he did it and teams what he has for.

1904
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Now, it was a win. We'll see if it turns

1905
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: into anything.

1906
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 5: Yes, the other guy that was interesting for me on

1907
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 5: day three, they have him as a stock down. That's

1908
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 5: Keon Coleman. He's a big receiver.

1909
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: Liked I wouldn't be afraid of that.

1910
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 5: He's like a great jump ball target. And yes, four six' one,

1911
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 5: you can live with that in the NFL, in the

1912
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 5: right scheme and with the right player. And I think

1913
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 5: Keon's the kind of player who can succeed in that role.

1914
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 6: Like he also gives us a completely different body type

1915
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 6: of different ability to play above the rim, and he's

1916
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 6: somebody that, like, I don't remember what Mike Evans ran.

1917
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 6: Now I'm not suggesting that he's Mike Evans, but I

1918
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 6: bet he was probably mid four fives, four six. If

1919
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 6: he ran a four or five five, Ken Colman probably

1920
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 6: goes in the first round.

1921
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 5: Four five three for Mike Evans.

1922
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so faster but still not a blazer. But size. Yeah,

1923
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: the dude. His catch radius is incredible, his jump ball

1924
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: ability is incredible. There were many times as Florida State

1925
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: was in the run last year where he was the

1926
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: best player on the field. So I would have no,

1927
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: I would be very excited about that pick.

1928
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 5: He didn't seem like like that time to me. Didn't

1929
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 5: say you're slow, You're not gonna be able to make it.

1930
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 5: Their whole offense was throw it up to key On Coleman,

1931
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 5: yeah and go catch it. And he did that at

1932
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 5: an exceptional level.

1933
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Speaker 6: I'm I thought Roman Wilson was maybe going to get

1934
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 6: a shout out running a four to three nine. The

1935
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 6: kid out of michiganze pretty good player's he could be

1936
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 6: somebody in the second round the Browns look at.

1937
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Roman was a late Bloomer two in this class.

1938
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 5: I didn't think he was going to go high. Yeah,

1939
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 5: and then everybody's talking about him as like a second

1940
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 5: round guy now, which I'm fine with because he's good.

1941
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got we again. We got a couple of

1942
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: months before we get to the draft. All right, good

1943
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Speaker 2: joby to you and very good.

1944
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Speaker 3: All right.

1945
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1947
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1948
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1949
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1950
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Speaker 2: Hey Zee, I don't know if you know this, but

1951
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Speaker 2: you don't want to miss Billy Joel and Rod Stewart.

1952
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Speaker 2: Haven't heard about it? First time they're going to be together.

1953
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: This is the first time they're ever going to be together.

1954
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Speaker 2: Is it one night only? It's apparently for one night only.

1955
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Speaker 2: It is September thirteenth, It's a Friday. It's at Cleveland

1956
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Speaker 2: Brown Stadium. The tickets are on sale right now and

1957
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Speaker 2: if you want some, you can visit Cleveland Brown Stadium

1958
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Speaker 2: dot com. Slash Billion Rod twenty twenty four billion, Rod

1959
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. So it's Billy Jolns, Rod Stewart there

1960
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: together for one night only, so that works. Jason Kelcey

1961
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 2: retiring official. We kind of expected six time All Pro.

1962
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: He is retiring. He is a six time All Pro.

1963
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: That is all. That is absolutely a hoff part of

1964
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: a super Bowl winner in Philly and kind of the

1965
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: golden era of Eagles football. They think you surely could

1966
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: make that case.

1967
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1968
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: From that super Bowl through the Jalen Hurts run, they've

1969
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 2: been pretty good. They've been very good. They've been to

1970
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: the mix. They've been in the NFC Championship game. The

1971
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 2: better the only better one in our lifetime was probably

1972
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 2: the McNab run. They were really good with Randall and

1973
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: Reggie White and Jerome Brown, but they never manifested the NFC.

1974
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: Was was too tough, So that was probably it was

1975
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 2: probably the mcnabron. But they got the super Bowl. These

1976
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 2: guys got the super Bowl won, Yeah, they did. He

1977
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: will be a incredibly hot commodity. I would think if

1978
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: he wants to do in the analysts.

1979
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Speaker 6: Work, Yeah, yeah, yeah's gonna up on the show.

1980
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Does he what would he want? Does he need to

1981
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 2: do any of it.

1982
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 6: What he what he should want to do is work

1983
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 6: a studio show. That's where the money is and that

1984
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 6: is much easier life than doing the games.

1985
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: Well, what if he goes even further, what if he

1986
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: does manning cast type stuff. He absolutely could do that.

1987
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 2: That's what I would do. Then I just do it

1988
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: from my house. Yeah, and I just comment on a stream.

1989
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: So who would he do it for the Eagles? Well,

1990
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 2: he could do it for the Eagles, he could do

1991
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 2: it for Fox or CBS, or he may see.

1992
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 6: Eventually what the NFL needs to move to. And I'll

1993
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 6: just let people chew on this for my final tho

1994
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 6: other day. And I've been saying it for years, but

1995
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 6: every broadcast should be they're one your team's manning cast.

1996
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 6: You should not have to listen to people butcher the

1997
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 6: names of your players, butcher the name of your city,

1998
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 6: butcher the name of.

1999
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Speaker 2: I think we talked about this you do. You have

2000
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 2: an NFL one team team and you can even do

2001
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 2: it one a like like Fox's CBS's A team is

2002
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: nanceon Romo. If the B team is Eagle and Charles, fine,

2003
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 2: they go to the two best games. Everybody else you local,

2004
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: and you could if if it's US against Pittsburgh, you

2005
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 2: listen to you guys, if you listen to Pittsburgh, you

2006
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 2: pick it, it syncs up with the TV and away

2007
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: you go, right.

2008
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Speaker 6: Or you could even do I mean, you can do

2009
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 6: your own level do where you do something like for example,

2010
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 6: me and the hoff do a Manning cast that's the

2011
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 6: TV broadcast.

2012
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Speaker 2: Yes, that might actually get the hot to do it

2013
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: because you can do it from his house, right right,

2014
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 2: we got a chance. But just so I'm saying something,

2015
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: you're right that I think team should have that. Yeah,

2016
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 2: I think it'll get there.

2017
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Speaker 6: Like you don't need the eighth team coming in and

2018
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 6: butchering everything and you're like, you don't even know.

2019
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Speaker 2: Possibly they couldn't know the team. There's no way they're

2020
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: doing much too much, too much, all right, the next

2021
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 2: level is coming up next. We're back tomorrow. Thanks for

2022
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Speaker 2: listening play the Brondily eight fifty esp in Cleveland.

2023
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

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