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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation,

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Speaker 2: Highlight Real starting now now.

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Speaker 3: Ted Carris with his hilarious Tom Brady and Antonio Brown stories.

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Speaker 2: Tom was a big stick or if your center can't

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Speaker 2: be wet and so it's huge. Oh and this would

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Speaker 2: be this is like a nightmare for it.

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Speaker 1: Explain that.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean so I still do the towel

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Speaker 2: to this day. You can see me. Tom takes all

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Speaker 2: the centers to the side. If you're going to play

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Speaker 2: center at any point, even just an undrafted guy, he'll

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Speaker 2: teach you how to fold it and put it into.

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Speaker 1: Your ass and buzz I still do to this day.

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Speaker 2: Every single day. Everyone's asking me like, what is this

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Speaker 2: because it looks kind of dorky, and but I just like,

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't play center without it, because that's

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Speaker 2: just how I was. I never played center before I

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Speaker 2: got to New England, so that was how I learned center.

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Speaker 2: And an early moment the Blue White Scrimmage twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: We do it every year and I had you know,

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Speaker 2: I was on Tom's team and apparently too wet for him,

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Speaker 2: and uh he literally this is a This is an

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Speaker 2: embarrassing moment. He literally pulls me off to the sideline,

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Speaker 2: screams in my face that I'm a sweaty pig, and

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Speaker 2: then pulls my pants out and powders my ass with

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Speaker 2: baby powder in front of everyone. Oh my god, So

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Speaker 2: what do you think I I was kind of embarrassing

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Speaker 2: when all the fans were looking where like it's like

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Speaker 2: fifteen thousand people at Jillette Stadium. But I was like,

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Speaker 2: I better. I started changing towels a lot. I would

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Speaker 2: sometimes change pants. That happen.

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 2: I would baby powder myself every day before practice.

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Speaker 1: And and that's another thing. You go back to that

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Speaker 1: picture too.

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Speaker 2: You know Tom was really tall, so when you know,

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Speaker 2: he would always tell you to get your butt up

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Speaker 2: so and we were under center a lot, so a

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Speaker 2: lot of times that picture, if you look at it,

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Speaker 2: I'm like straight legged snapping it just because he's so tall.

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Speaker 2: He's so much taller than me. But I would always

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Speaker 2: just do whatever he said, you know. I yeah, we

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Speaker 2: all did. We all did yeah, And we just liked

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Speaker 2: that he was talking to him. Dude, I'll do whatever

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Speaker 2: you want. Man.

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Speaker 4: Looking at a New York Times article here in the headline,

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Speaker 4: how do you avoid swamp ass? Yeah, Tom Brady does

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Speaker 4: it by seeking the centers pants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to learn how to how to get

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Speaker 2: back down low to make a block. That's tough. Tall

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Speaker 2: to fucking Tom's tall. Tom's way taller than When they

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Speaker 2: don't realize it, they say six four, but it's a

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Speaker 2: tall six four. It's it's a tall six four. It's

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Speaker 2: like our team was, That's what I say. Man, if

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Speaker 2: we would have kept Ab, we probably wouldn't our super Bowl. Well,

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Speaker 2: so Ab like, I love a B and he immediately

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Speaker 2: took to me like I would look at me in

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Speaker 2: the huddle, you talk to me. And then so my

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Speaker 2: AB story is I'm in the cold tub with him

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Speaker 2: and he just chatted me up. And you know, he's

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Speaker 2: a great guy, great conversation, very intense human being. And

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Speaker 2: so you're not allowed to take pictures in the facility.

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Speaker 2: It's like automatic firing, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So AB's like, man, we got to take a selfie.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, man, He's like, no, we're

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Speaker 2: doing it. I'm like, all right, takes a selfie of

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Speaker 2: me and him in the cold tub. You can look

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Speaker 2: this up online too. It's a great picture, posts it

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Speaker 2: on his story Cold Tub Dubs with Big bro teddy K.

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Speaker 2: I get like eight thousand followers in like four hours,

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Speaker 2: puts my Instagram on.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like kind of like freaking out. I'm like, geez,

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Speaker 1: I was that's like the number one rule the facilities.

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Speaker 2: Don't take a picture inside, And yeah, here we go

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Speaker 2: Cold Tub does a Big bro teddy K follow him out.

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Speaker 2: So the next day, Scar comes up to my locker

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Speaker 2: and it's head like, hey, like, what the fuck were

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: So you know, we're not allowed to take pictures in

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Speaker 2: the facility, and so I'm like freaking out and I

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Speaker 2: totally fold.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well it was a b coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to say. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what to tell me. He's like, dude, relax,

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Speaker 2: I'm just fucking with you. I don't know what to say. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's Aby was a great guy. I uh obviously very

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Speaker 2: very colorful guy. Did you ever work with Best Buddies?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Because I about to say maybe did you

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Speaker 2: start it Best Buddies and then find this organization? Well

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Speaker 2: that was like that was like a traumatic day. For

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Speaker 2: me because Tom would do that game every year and

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Speaker 2: then he launched a bomb to me over Dave Andrews.

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Speaker 2: I literally ran a go and it's just right out

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Speaker 2: the only things I have signed from Tom Brady is

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Speaker 2: a plaque that says biggest drop.

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, like sold out Harvard the crowd.

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Speaker 2: He's on the mic saying that I had to go

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Speaker 2: biggest Drop plaque.

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Speaker 4: So it's like some repressed trauma from that. But I

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Speaker 4: know it's been well documented. But like what makes Tom

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Speaker 4: so good at that sneak?

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Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about it all day he is and

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Speaker 2: just how long his willingness to do it, and we

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Speaker 2: get up to the ball, he would give you a ten,

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Speaker 2: would Scars say in the medium, I mean, we just.

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Speaker 1: Got to try to what are guys going in the

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Speaker 1: Jaws of Death? I mean the Jaws of Death and

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a sellout play.

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Speaker 2: Basically, we got to try to get one double team,

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Speaker 2: you know, wedge blocking type scenario. And then you know Tom,

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Speaker 2: Tom was good at just finding the soft spot. And

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Speaker 2: if you watch that one too, Miami was totally unprepared

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Speaker 2: basically two two techniques just so head up on the guard.

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Speaker 1: So that's an easy get in.

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Speaker 2: That's an easy suard because what Tom would do would

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Speaker 1: Be so situational QB sneaking. Yeoh.

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Speaker 2: I think on that one we had like some type

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Speaker 2: a divisional against uh Chiefs. The Chiefs where they had

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Speaker 1: It's a field to field.

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Speaker 3: Next up Max Crosby on how he breaks down his

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Speaker 3: own game film.

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Speaker 2: Now, we had Whitworth on stud I loved and he

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Speaker 2: would he would talk about he felt defensive ends didn't

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Speaker 2: scout their tackles. Do you scout tackles? And like what

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Speaker 2: their strengths are. He could always tell if a guy

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Speaker 1: Or or just throwing ship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I definitely. Do you know I come from

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Speaker 5: a I mean the guy my biggest ins as a

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Speaker 5: He had Warren Sapp, Julius Pepper's numerous Hall of famers.

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Speaker 5: I had him my second and third year and that

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Speaker 5: was my last I mean this season right here. That

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Speaker 5: was my third year and that's where I took off.

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Speaker 5: And that dude is all about watching your film. Like

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Speaker 5: He's like, every lineman you go against a fucking gray

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Speaker 5: if you do what you're supposed to do, get off

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Speaker 5: pad level hands, fight area, if you understand all the

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Speaker 5: They're eventually gonna get broken, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So's I watch film on other guys. Of course I

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Speaker 5: try to pick up during the week. All right, who's

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Speaker 5: giving away past, who's given away? Run? What little things

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Speaker 5: I can pick up. But majority of the film I'm

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Speaker 5: watching is my own film on repeat. I watch my

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Speaker 5: practices every night, and then I'll watch a game or

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Speaker 5: two games, and then okay, I'll throw on this guy

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Speaker 5: versus you know whoever. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: I can't sit here and watch the Steelers versus Giants

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Speaker 5: and expect them to block me the same way they

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Speaker 5: block some other guys, because you can go into the plane. Okay,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna do this and this, and then they fucking

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Speaker 5: throw three people at me, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 5: we went to the Colts game this, I mean, week seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Robbo comes up to me. Rob Ryan, one of the

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Speaker 5: coolest fucking dads I've ever met, great coach.

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Speaker 1: He comes up to me. All right, this is the week.

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Speaker 5: Colts don't They don't chip, They just they five man up.

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Speaker 5: whole game. Yeah, and I'm like, fuck, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. But that's why, Like I can sit there

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Speaker 5: and anticipate and think they're gonna do this and whatever.

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Speaker 5: But for me, if I'm at my best and I'm

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Speaker 5: matter what they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're what they call a problem.

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Speaker 2: You know, if when I was playing, we were to

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Speaker 2: ever play a guy like you. You're at that caliber

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Speaker 2: where you're dedicating a thirty play clip in front of

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Speaker 2: the keys to victory, which is never usually a player.

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Speaker 2: But Crosby's that kind of guy where he's a problem

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Speaker 2: and you can see it in the Run game. You

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Speaker 2: could see it in the past game. They're sending chips

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Speaker 2: running backs next.

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Speaker 3: Cam Jordan on what makes Sean Payton such a great coach?

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Speaker 1: What was it like playing for Sean Payton?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you acutely one. There's no one about

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Speaker 6: what could have happened Sean Payton. Come on, man, Sean

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Speaker 6: is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that he's doing what he's doing in Denver?

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Speaker 6: Having success Yeah, No, he's a winner. Yeah, bro, Like again,

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Speaker 6: what the arrogance of winning? Like you don't know if

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Speaker 6: you can lose, if you never lose. That's that's like saying,

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Speaker 6: you know, the every every leader for the last like

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Speaker 6: two years, three years. Now you've looked at the Kansa

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Speaker 6: City Chiefs and you hear media talk about, oh, they

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Speaker 6: don't look as strong that they did in twenty Oh

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Speaker 6: they're back to back football champions until they lose this thing.

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Speaker 6: They've won this thing in their minds. When you don't

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Speaker 6: know how to lose, then you don't worry about losing.

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Speaker 1: Just don't trick it off. Just make less mistakes. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: This how we won, This is how we'll continue winning.

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Speaker 6: Sean Payne was great because that's exactly what he put

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Speaker 6: They were gonna make them beat them any other way

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Speaker 6: Methodology wins, and he's a bit he's a big numbers guy,

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Speaker 2: Good coaches know how to simplify complex matter because you know,

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Speaker 6: Some of your best Some of your best players are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. You simplify it.

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Speaker 1: Drew is amazing, dude, Just like the things that you

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Speaker 6: That's what he did. You know, Like he's the first

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Speaker 6: But just the way that he took to the game,

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Speaker 6: You know before game day. Hotel one time tried to

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Speaker 1: I don't do this.

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Speaker 6: And by the time he sat down, cheese was gone,

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Speaker 1: And I said, okay, the Drew Brees Way, the dB

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he may not even eat eat gluten anymore. But

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Speaker 2: But I'm a fat kid, so like, but you're not

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's an o beast kid slap. You're a fat kid.

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Speaker 3: Next, rich Orenberger tells the story of Matt Light's incredible

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Speaker 3: prank on the Patriots coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: What's something that stands out with Matt Light that you

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Speaker 2: remember Matt Light?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man in a meeting Matt one time.

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Speaker 7: Uh he he put a I don't even know what

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Speaker 7: to call it, microchip, or he switched out the mouse

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Speaker 7: on Dante Scarnakia's computer. He told that story. Oh he

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Speaker 7: told it on the Okay, so I won't repeat the story. Well,

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Speaker 7: I'll give you the briefest version. So basically, this this

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Speaker 7: So Dante, for I'm not kidding the better part of

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Speaker 7: I mean, they come in and they're over here circle

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Speaker 7: giving them the business. And then they try it with

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Speaker 1: It was like this. It went on so much longer

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Speaker 7: Like Dante Scarneki, it was losing his fucking mind that year,

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Speaker 7: and it was all Matt Light. It was all his fault.

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Speaker 7: It was incredible. I still don't know if Dante knows

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Speaker 7: It was incredible, Yeah, but then Dante was the ringleader.

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Speaker 7: He had to try to find a way to reign

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Speaker 7: He spent the time after practice. There are so many coaches,

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Speaker 7: He really spent the time with us, and I benefited

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Speaker 7: I needed help and Dante gave me help. I love

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Speaker 7: that man. He taught me hard lessons, he taught me

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Speaker 2: I saw that when we when he was gone, you know,

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Speaker 1: He would yell at you guys, oh my god, and

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Speaker 2: To get into your welcome to the NFL moment with

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Speaker 2: But he would yell, he would he would call him

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Speaker 2: put your right foot, drop it right here, you put

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Speaker 1: Instead of a coach that's just yelling like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 2: Like he would give you play for play what you

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Speaker 1: One thousand person.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it wasn't just like, hey, you screwed it up, No,

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Speaker 1: It was like this would be a Dante Lion. He'd

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Speaker 7: Were we doing in the meeting room the.

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Speaker 8: Entire time before we took the goddamn failed And you'd

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Speaker 8: If you're the center and look out to the fucking right,

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Speaker 8: because Sam screaming off that edge and you're like, okayl

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but like you're hearing all this and like meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: internally you're doing all this stuff I was just doing,

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Speaker 8: and like on the outside, you're just like you got it, Dante, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 8: and don't call me Sara that fucker that just means

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Speaker 7: It was like it was intense. It was intense, but

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Speaker 7: There were guys who could handle the pressure, and that's

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Speaker 7: all it was. It was just a pressure test. If

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Speaker 7: you know, I mean, like he wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 7: at practice, how the hell are you going to be

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Speaker 7: able to handle the Cincinnati Bengals or the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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