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Speaker 3: All right, We've got our guy, Grayson Rodriguez joining us

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Speaker 3: I know you're probably frustrated. Let's let's knock this out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, i' mean throwing throwing a pin here in

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Now, if I would have faced you in krats, my

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Speaker 1: You know, it kind of flared up on me.

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Speaker 4: Do you think the process should be longer to coming

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Speaker 2: But you know, the organization always has kind of our

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Speaker 5: Are you in Baltimore or Sarasota? Do they they some teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, well right now I'm in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, we were supposed to

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Speaker 2: So there'll be definitely some guys throwing some simulated endings today.

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Speaker 4: All right, graceon, I want your immediate reaction. I don't

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Speaker 5: orange uniforms. Yeah, you're like, yeah, you're like.

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Speaker 5: But you're like man to man in all these uniforms,

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Speaker 2: That's it, No, dude, I got to put those uniforms

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Speaker 2: Get used to him because you know, you come up

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of guys out there that don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love how the uniforms look. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm ready to see them out there on

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of get off my long type of

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Speaker 4: I think they're awesome. But one last thing, you guys

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Speaker 2: Well, dude, our manager Brandon Hyde has been really great

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Speaker 1: But like during the year, you know how you know.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Nike comes out with I guess team sweatsuits,

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Speaker 1: You know, guys are trying to recover stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as long as we're wearing the

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you got the Orioles logo on it,

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Speaker 1: Look good as a group.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean, Hider has been really good

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Speaker 2: really doesn't matter what you look like when you travel,

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Speaker 2: as long as everybody's wearing the same thing or something similar.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, Hider ain't known for his fashion. Off, it's

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Speaker 5: all right, let's let's hider ain't known for his fashion.

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Speaker 5: And also May third, I'm doing a Kansas City of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you better get it right there. Yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: love me in full orange.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Get the boogs Boogs barbecue ready for a

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Speaker 3: little Grayson start speedy recovery, dude.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for hopping on obviously.

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Speaker 3: It's always much appreciated and people respect that.

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Speaker 1: Great to hear from you rooting.

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Speaker 3: Free to get back soon and we'll check in with

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Speaker 3: you too in a few weeks, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that, y'all. Don't have too much fun

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Speaker 1: with that. Enjoys Yeah, okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Grayson,