1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to a special episode of Amy 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and TJ. Coming to you from the Habit Held Expo 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: at the McCormick Center in downtown Chicago. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, I'm TJ. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: Holmes and I'm Amy Robach and we're very excited to 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: be here with thousands of runners in this weekend's Chicago Marathon. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: So it's very exciting. I love expo centers. I love 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: the energy of everyone. All the training is done, Months 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: and months of preparation has been underway, and now we 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: are finally here marathon weekend. 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: And for our. 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Listeners, you can hear a lot of background noise. We 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: are in the expo center where some fifty thousand runners 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: have to come through to pick up their packets, and 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: so the main stage we're sitting at to give you 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: some perspective, is at the exit, so we're the last 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: thing people see on their way out of the Expo center. 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: But we should remind folks, yes, we're a long time journalist. 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: But how many half marathons do you have under your belt? 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Bro? 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: I tried to do the count official half marathons. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: I believe I have six, Okay, marathon. 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: How many marathons I have five full marathons. 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: And where were they? 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: I ran Chicago in twenty twenty two. I ran New 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 3: York in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty two and twenty twenty 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 3: one and twenty twenty four, and then Berlin twenty twenty one. 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, now I will tell folks this is something I 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: didn't know. But you said it's possible that Chicago twenty 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: twenty four will be your last marathon. You said that 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: to me last night, and I was surprised to hear 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: it myself. 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: I did. 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: It's a lot. 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: All the folks here in this incredible expo center know 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: how much work it is a second full time job 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: to train for a marathon. It takes almost half a year, 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: and it takes a lot out of you, And so 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't want to push myself more than my body 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: is willing to go, but I do. I have always 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: had this dream to run London, so I'm gonna leave 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: that open to do a seventh. But I don't know 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: how many more marathons I have in me. I have 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: more half marathons in me, but you're just getting started. 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: How many do you have under your belt? 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: This will be my third. My fourth is supposed to 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: be in three weeks. I'm supposed to do New York. 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: I've only done two New York marathons. I've done five 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: half marathons and they were all New York and Brooklyn. 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: So this will be my first time running outside of 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: New York. This is a stretch for me. 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: In Chicago is a beautiful, flat, amazing place to run 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: a marathon. 54 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: And let me ask everybody here. 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: We know everybody that's running the marathon that can hear 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: my voice. 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: We all expect to be in pain at the end 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: of the race. But can you give me a show 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: of hands if you can hear me? 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: How many folks are I want to be starting the 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: race in some kind of pain? You have some injury, 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: you have some nagging something, you got some problem. 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna be hurting when you start. What's your problem? 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Oh splints? Oh you right there in the purple shirt? 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: What's your problem? Oh? Was that he did Berlin? 66 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: Everybody? 68 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: Oh, we just did Berlin. 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: Okay, that is a problem. 70 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: It's your legs are tired. I get it. 71 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: I've done a double before, DJ's about to do a double. 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: It's real. Your body has already broken and you're starting. 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: So let me say this. 74 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: It sounds I if even ever watched us or me, 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: I have known I have a decent amount of style. 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: I think I need to explain this. 77 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: I have on a black double breasted jacket, slacks, and 78 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: some flip. 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 4: Flops, with some compression socks. 80 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: And compression socks. 81 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I have an achilles issue that has been well documented 82 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: over the past couple of months. 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: Have you been listening to us? And I still ain't right? 84 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: And as I sit here, I still don't know if 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna run the Chicago Marathon on Sunday. 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: We're going to start it. 87 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: I will start it, but I don't know if anybody 88 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: out there has had Achilles to donitis. 89 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: I don't care if you. 90 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Have a traditional medical remedy, non traditional, I don't even 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: care if it's legal. If anything you can recommend that 92 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: can help me with this achilles before Sunday, I will 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: take it. 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: At this point, And I. 95 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Have to say, I have never seen anyone so devoted 96 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: to icing and heating and icing and heating and making 97 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: sure that you're doing everything you can with laser therapy. 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 4: And here we are, and we still don't know. It's 99 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: a big question mark all. 100 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Right, and everybody who's a first time marathoner, any first 101 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: time or a first time or a first timer, well 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: that's cool, and we know this is special and good 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: luck and I'm sure what's going through your head, but 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: we want to welcome out somebody now to the stage 105 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: and our guest here who is also a first time marathoner, 106 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: not just first time Chicago, but this is her first 107 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: time running a marathon. She also is a distinct inguished 108 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: west Point grad graduating the top five percent at west Point. 109 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: She is right now a second lieutenant active duty serving 110 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: in the military. She is also the win of a 111 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: prestigious scholarship to Stanford, where she is right now studying 112 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: to get her Masters in Statistics and Data. And also 113 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: she just happens to be the current Miss USA. Well 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: you all please help us all. Welcome to the Amy 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: TJ Podcast. Miss Usa, I'm a Cooper. 116 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my goodness, welcome, Oh my goodness. 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: Alma. 118 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: First of all, thank you, of course, what an unbelievable 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: resume at the riple age of twenty two, twenty two. 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: I can't imagine what's left in your resume to fill 121 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: out because you've already accomplished more than most, but I'm 122 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: curious with all of that under your belt, I know 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: you've been a runner for a lot of your life. 124 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: You credit that to your mother. We'll get into that, 125 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: but how are you feeling? This is your first marathon? 126 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: How are you feeling about the race? 127 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. I have been talking to my mom NonStop. 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, Mom, what should I do about this? Like 129 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: how long should I go for my shakeout run? Like 130 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: should do I need. 131 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 4: A roll before or after or both. 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 5: She's been coaching me through it this whole time, and 133 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: I just feel really grateful to still be able to 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 5: pursue this opportunity. I remember when I won, I was like, man, 135 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 5: I don't know, should I still do it? 136 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 6: And I was like I should totally still. 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: One in August? So yes recently, Yes, very recently. 138 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 5: And so I'm just so thrilled. I'm just so excited. 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 5: And I keep telling myself, don't go out too fast 140 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 5: like ten ten ten k, Like I've got my strategy 141 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 5: for my pace. 142 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 6: I've got my Apple Watch, like. 143 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: I'm ready, so and we know the strategy is going 144 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: to go out for the window. 145 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm always curious. 146 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: We use a hal Higdon training regimen that only takes 147 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: you up to twenty miles at the longest one you do. 148 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: What was your training process? How many months and how 149 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: would you way? 150 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 5: I got up to twenty miles and I started So 151 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 5: I signed up for the Chicago Marathon like mid October 152 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: of last year. So I started like kind of just 153 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: continuing with running and then going pretty like steady with 154 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: it on like increasing my mileage probably. 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 6: Like around January. 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 5: And that was around the same time that I thought 157 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 5: about getting ready for Miss USA. 158 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: So I had been like running to get ready for. 159 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: Miss USA, and I had also been doing like some 160 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: core and strength training at Core Power. I go to 161 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 5: Core Power Yoga a lot, So I kind of just 162 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 5: was incorporating that and trying to be consistent that way. 163 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 5: When if I was traveling a lot and I couldn't 164 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 5: be like at Core Power, I couldn't get in the 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 5: long run on the roads, I was on the treadmill, 166 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: like I could still balance a little bit more. 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: So we talk about balancing training for a marathon and 168 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: working a job. 169 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: But you're working the job of Miss USA. 170 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: Where you mentioned a little bit of travel, it's a 171 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: lot of travel. 172 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: Correct. 173 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: What is your average week like and how did you 174 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 3: What was the craziest way you fit. 175 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: In a long run? 176 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: Well, I would say so during Miss USA week when 177 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: I was competing, You're going through rehearsals, You're going to fittings. 178 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 5: I mean, you're all all over the place. We were 179 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 5: touring Hollywood, and I didn't. 180 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 6: Really I didn't get a chance to get a run in. 181 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: And Saugust is a big training month for this marathon. 182 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 5: So about a week after I won, I was like, okay, 183 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: let me just hop on the treadmill. 184 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 6: I was in Washington, DC, and I was like, let's 185 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 6: just see, like how I feel. 186 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: And I ran a half marathon at like eight minute 187 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 5: pace and I was like, okay. 188 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: Well I didn't think I had that in me. 189 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: So I was like, Okay, I really feel like, you know, 190 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: not only should I stick with it, but I should 191 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: like really trust my training because something is working and I. 192 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 6: Don't know what it is. 193 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 5: So I'm just gonna stay with it and stay confident 194 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 5: till October. 195 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: I have to ask. 196 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: The longest I ever done is a twelve miler on 197 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 3: a treadmill because I was in quarantine in Tokyo covering 198 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: the Olympics, and so it's the only reason why I 199 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: did it. How do you stay on the treadmill for 200 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: thirteen point one miles? 201 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 4: What's your secret music? 202 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: I listened to a lot of Fred again John Summit. 203 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 5: Does any like upbeat music that I can like visualize to, 204 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 5: because that was a lot of my preparation for Miss 205 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 5: USA was like visualization and manifestation and any like upbeat 206 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 5: music that just like gets my mind going. 207 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 6: I see a couple of head nods up there. 208 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 5: I think some people agree with me, but just the 209 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 5: idea that, like, whatever it is I'm listening to, like, 210 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 5: I'm focused on that and not like the mirror that's 211 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: steering in front of me. 212 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: So the hell? Who likes? Who does treadmill training? I hate? 213 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: Oh we got one backmill training? 214 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: How much treadmill you talked about that run? But how 215 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: much treadmill training did you have to do? 216 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 6: I mean recently after I won. 217 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: Majority of it. 218 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 6: When I'm not home has to be on the treadmill. 219 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: The twenty miler? Please tell me you. 220 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 6: Did No, I was outside okay side. 221 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: Like I said, twelve was my longest and I watched 222 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: two full episodes of Stranger Things. I have to watch 223 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: something on Netflix. You can't just listen to music when 224 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm on the treadmill and you've got about four miles in. 225 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: You want a treadmill, I'll tell you. I hate that. 226 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: We call it the dread disc. 227 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh Meg, okay, I have gone down to do a 228 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: two mile run on the treadmill and quit it one mile. 229 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 4: It's trund to help you. Witnessed it not. He doesn't 230 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: quit it anything, but he quits on the treadmill. 231 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: So you did your twenty mile and by the way, 232 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: I looked at your half marathon pace, very impressive. 233 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: Was it one forty four? 234 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes? 235 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Wow? 236 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, my best is one fifty three, So my hat's 237 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: off to you. But you did one forty five. 238 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, I did that was Brooklyn. I think it 239 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: was already. 240 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: Y'all should run together because oh paces closer to hers 241 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: than to mine. 242 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: Four. 243 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: No, I have the. 244 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Woman I'm gonna be running with. I am no, no, no, 245 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: you're like that was okay. I need to thank you, 246 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: thank you. 247 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: I set him up for that. So do you have 248 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: a pace in mind for this marathon? 249 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: My goal is to finish under four hours. 250 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: That's my goal. 251 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 5: And the other thing is is that I just feel 252 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: like I'm so excited to run and to run for 253 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 5: the cause that i'm running with. I'm running with the 254 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 5: charity Appnegar and my life. I didn't know my life 255 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 5: would be what it is when I decided to run, 256 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: and so I've kind of just tried to give myself. 257 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 6: Grace throughout this process and just going. 258 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 5: With no expectations, just to enjoy myself, don't go out 259 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 5: too fast, and really like soak in the moment. Because 260 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 5: I grew up in Michigan, I have friends who ran 261 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: the Chicago Marathon, and so my goal is to finish 262 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: under four hours, but I also just want to enjoy 263 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 5: the whole. 264 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 6: The whole experience. 265 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so a few more running questions here. One, what 266 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: is your I see what you're wearing here, but what 267 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: is your shoe of to what would you be running 268 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: in on. 269 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: Sunday Brooks Running book? Okay, what do. 270 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: You think is your biggest challenge on Sunday? We all 271 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: have ours. She has if it's too hot, she'll get nauseated. 272 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: That's her issue. I am an Achilles thing. Yeah, it's 273 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: a problem. 274 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: So what is the thing that you're worried about on 275 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: phone's going to put you in that mindset, no no worries. 276 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: I guess I'm a little bit worried I do this. 277 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: And I my mom knows this about me because she's 278 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: coached me on runs and has done speed workouts with me. 279 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: She's like, you're going too fast, Alma, you need to 280 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: slow down. And so she's I told her my BIB number, 281 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 5: so she's going to be tracking me. 282 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 6: She's going to be. 283 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: Texting me on my watch, she's going to be encouraging me. 284 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 5: And I think I just want to make sure that 285 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 5: I don't get too confident too early on. 286 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 6: I think that's my biggest thing. That's my biggest worry. 287 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 5: But I think I think I've got a village to 288 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 5: help regulate that so I'll be good. 289 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: I love that, and I also love I because that's 290 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: always the thing. 291 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 4: To start out slower than you think and you build. 292 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: You want your your slowest mile to be your first 293 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: and your fastest mile to be your last. That's the dream. 294 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: It's rarely worked out for me, but that's always the goal. 295 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 4: And I've always found it fascinating how. 296 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: When you go through is a real struggle like this, 297 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: and you've done your twenty miles, so you know what 298 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: that is how much. It is a euphemism for life. 299 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: Start out slow, to not go too fast, isn't the phrase. 300 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 3: It's not a sprint, it's a marathon talking about life. 301 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: But what have you learned training for this marathon? And 302 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: what do you hope, like what you've learned from this 303 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: about pushing past pain and all of those things runners 304 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 3: go through, long distance runners go through that you will 305 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: apply to your life. 306 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 5: Yes, I would say that one the idea to give 307 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 5: myself grace. I think like when I first signed up 308 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: for the race, I was like, oh my gosh, like 309 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: this is gonna be my thing for twenty twenty four, 310 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: Like this only thing I'll be able to focus on. 311 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, I got that totally wrong. 312 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 6: I'm miss the mark on that. 313 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: But I think like giving. 314 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 5: Myself grace has been the biggest thing because I do 315 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: know I'm a perfectionist. 316 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: And also I read a lot of David. 317 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: Goggins, and one of the things he talks about in 318 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 5: his book Can't Hurt Me is to prove to be 319 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: uncommon amongst the uncommon. 320 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 6: And I think I've always. 321 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 5: Tried to push the boundaries on myself and master my 322 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 5: own mind and how I can craft myself, how I 323 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: can just continue to demand excellence of myself. And I 324 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: think this has pushed me outside of my comfort zone 325 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 5: and it's made me face things like dang, I didn't 326 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 5: I didn't want to struggle at this. I didn't think 327 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: I was going to struggle at this. But I'm struggling 328 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: and that's okay, And so I got to not let 329 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: it define me. But what's going to define me is 330 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: how I respond to it. So I definitely think like 331 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: those lessons has shaped have shaped how I've approached this year, 332 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 5: I have approached how I'm going to approach the rest 333 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: of my life. 334 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: I know I'm going to run more marathons, So this 335 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: is just the star for me. 336 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: And I'm really excited. 337 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: Why in the first way. I know you've challenged yourself, 338 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: But why Chicago? You could your first one could have 339 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: been a lot of places around the world. 340 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 5: Sure, I chose Chicago because I grew up in Michigan 341 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: and I started off modeling in Michigan. Like I was 342 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: discovered or started off modeling in Chicago. 343 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 6: I was discovered in Chicago. 344 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 5: And I just always remember, like the energy that surrounded 345 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: this race and the way people lie in the streets 346 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: and just all of the positivity that surrounded it, and 347 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: for me like to be close to home. 348 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 6: And I mean I travel a lot, and. 349 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: Right now I'm in grad school out in California and Stamford, 350 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 5: and for me coming back to the Midwest in a 351 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: way and like just feeling the energy of. 352 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 6: It all, it just felt like this is the right 353 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 6: place to be. 354 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: You're coming home. I'm in Michigan er too, by the way. 355 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: By Brett Lansing. 356 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I was born in Lansing well Great Sparrow Hospital. 357 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: And I've got family here actually in the audience with me. 358 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: So yes, I know what it's like to feel like 359 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: you're coming home and to see those streets lined with 360 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: people cheering for you. 361 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: We've said this before. 362 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: There is nothing like working your ass off, struggling and 363 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: then being in a place where there is an entire 364 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: city cheering for you. There's I don't think there are 365 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: many things in life the top a marathon, and it 366 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: comes with a price tag, for sure, but it's something 367 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: that never leaves you. And that's something I've always have. 368 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: People asked you, are you insane? Why are you running 369 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: a marathon? What do you tell them? The answer is why. 370 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: I just say, the only limits you face are the 371 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: ones you accept. So many people are like that's crazy, 372 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: Like you're going to Miss Universe in like two weeks 373 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 5: and you're gonna run this marathon, and I'm like, yeah, 374 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: that's the way the book is supposed to be written. 375 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 5: And so I just feel like one like it was 376 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: meant to be because this I've always say, like these 377 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: dreams were planted in my heart for a reason. I 378 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: felt like that getting ready for Miss USA. I felt 379 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: like that getting ready for Chicago. 380 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 6: And the fact that they align, That's just the way 381 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 6: God wrote it. So I'm so excited. I'm like, let's 382 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 6: just do this thing. 383 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: When do you taking up your schedule? When do you 384 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: have to Miss Universe's Mexico City this year? 385 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: Right? 386 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: When will you be in full Miss Universe mode after 387 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: the marathon? 388 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 6: Pretty much starting October fourteenth? 389 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: That will be the final Those will be like my 390 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: final two week push because I leave for Miss Universe 391 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 5: or October twenty ninth. 392 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: I mean, it's remarkable, and we are wishing you the 393 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 3: best of luck, and you've created a lot of firsts 394 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: with this Miss USA title, and you're also are you 395 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: the third Miss Usa. This year, it's been a crazy 396 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: year within the Miss USA PATCHA. 397 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: I'm Miss Usa twenty twenty four for sure, So within. 398 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: This year you have finally been crowned and you are 399 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: the first tell us about what that means to you, 400 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: the first Afro Latina Miss Usa. 401 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: Well, I think it means a lot. 402 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 5: I'm super grateful for my family and for my family lineage. 403 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 5: My full name is almod Alia Minerva Cooper. Alma means 404 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: soul in Spanish, and Odalia is my mom's name. Minerva 405 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: is my mom's mom's name, and Alma was name of 406 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: my dad's mom. Actually, I have her ashes in my necklace, 407 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 5: and so I have the soul of all the women 408 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 5: in my family, and I just know that for me 409 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 5: to represent for them at Miss Universe throughout my year 410 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 5: as an Army officer, I mean, all of it comes together. 411 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 6: It makes me who I am. 412 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 5: And I've been really fortunate to have a village around 413 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 5: me who has always uplifted me and encouraged me and 414 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: just allowed me to aspire to whatever it is that 415 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 5: my heart desires. 416 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: You said, Robox said here, first Afro Latina, first Miss 417 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: USA also the first active duty soldier to win, Miss USA, 418 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: this is the first active duty soldier to live. That 419 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: is amazing. Miss the USA, help us. And how big 420 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: of a deal is it for you? Because when people 421 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: think traditionally, historically about beauty pageants and beauty pageant contestants, 422 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mesh with what they think traditionally about 423 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: an army soldier. Those two things are the characteristics of 424 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: those too. You are marrying those two in the perfect 425 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: way to where us I now look at pageants and go, oh, yeah, 426 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: that's what it should be. That's what they should be. 427 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: And I think you represent an opportunity. But how big 428 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: of a deal is it for you to try to 429 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: knock down almost some preconceived notions of what a pageant 430 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: contestant should be and what a soldier should be. 431 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 5: I always say that my year is dedicated to serving 432 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 5: and not being served. Is to be of service to 433 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 5: so many people and to leave an impact wherever I go. 434 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: And for me, I've always found. 435 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 5: That competing in pageants and being in the military are 436 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: not mutually exclusive because there are some things that are 437 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: very synonymous, and one of them is disciplined. I would 438 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 5: say that being able to talk about my story how 439 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: I come from humble beginnings and how I've always dreamed 440 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 5: of making success successible for everyone. My mission in academia 441 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 5: is to study health and nutrition and food insecurity, and 442 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 5: just continuing to devote myself to organizations and cause that 443 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 5: are better than who I am as an individual. I 444 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 5: hope that that allows people to know that there's far 445 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: more to pageantry than just a gown and a woman 446 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: in makeup. There's so many things that come along with it, 447 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: and I think the most important one is service. 448 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: Alma, it's so cool in hearing you talk full disclosure, 449 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: full transparency. I was in the Miss America program. I 450 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: was a runner up to Miss Georgia. I never won 451 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: my state. I never went to Miss America, but I 452 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: did participate in the pageant system. 453 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: She she's my beauty queen. Though that was so you guys, 454 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: that was just for you to. 455 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: But the Miss America pageant system is about service, It 456 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: is about scholarship, It is about a lot of the 457 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: things you're talking about. I read that your mother was 458 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: involved in the Miss America pageant system, and I've always 459 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: been a big advocate for it. 460 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 4: I know it comes under fire often. 461 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: For the notion that it objectifies women. But if you 462 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: use it for the right way and it's and it's 463 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: evolved in the right. 464 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: Way, that it is about empowering women. 465 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: I will say that the Miss USA pageants system has 466 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: not been known for that as much. It's more about 467 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: the models, these supermodels, the gorgeous women, and you are. 468 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: It feels like marrying sort of the mantra of the 469 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: Miss America system and bringing it to the Miss USA 470 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: pageant was that in your head at all? 471 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 5: I mean, my whole focus was to hopefully just make 472 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 5: an impact and be a part of an organization that 473 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: was bigger than myself. And I hope that in being 474 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 5: of service to others that I can inspire other people 475 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 5: to serve, whether it's to your neighbor, your community, in 476 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 5: a uniform, or in the in corporate America, whatever it 477 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 5: is that someone is aspiring to do. I remember dreaming 478 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: to walk across to Miss USA stage as a young 479 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: girl and not even knowing. 480 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 6: If that would be possible. 481 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 5: I just was like, hey, you know, one day, I 482 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: hope I get the opportunity to do this. 483 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: What do you say to people, because I've dealt with 484 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: this in my little small world, who say pageants are antiquated, 485 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: they're outdated, they're actually offensive, and they objectify women. How 486 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: do you respond to those people who feel that about 487 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: beauty pageants? 488 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: I would say that I always say if you. 489 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: Can see me, you can be me, and that the 490 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 5: only limits you face are the ones you accept. And 491 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: I hope that in the sixty days I've spent as 492 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: Miss USA so far here about to run the Chicago 493 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 5: Marathon for charity, that people know that there are so 494 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 5: many ways to use a platform and uplift other people. 495 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 6: And for me, one of the things that. 496 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 5: I'm so grateful to have learned in my time at 497 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 5: West Point. 498 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: Is how I develop my character. 499 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 5: And again it's that I don't look at oh, this opportunity, 500 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 5: this adversity, or this challenge is going to define me. No, 501 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: it's how I go through that that my response is 502 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 5: how it will define me. And there's so many things 503 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 5: that I've overcome that have led to this moment and 504 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: will continue to lead to even bigger moments in ways 505 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 5: that I can serve people. So to me, it's just 506 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 5: about pushing that message and exemplifying what that means. 507 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 6: When the rubber meets the road, to serve and not be. 508 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: Served you've called yourself a perfectionist. How does that help you? 509 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: And almost how does it hurt you? In running a Marriata, Well. 510 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 5: I would say, you know, I'm always that person when 511 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: it's like okay, like I went two and a half out, 512 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: but somehow I went. 513 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 6: Two point four nine back. 514 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 5: I need to make that, you know, point oh one. 515 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 5: So I always do those little loops in front of 516 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 5: my apartment. My boyfriend's like, what are you doing, and 517 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, we have not done yet. I would say 518 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 5: that it's helpful because I think it's that mentality that 519 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 5: I always want to give my best effort. And if 520 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm not doing that or i feel 521 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 5: like I'm not seeing the outcome that I want, then 522 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: that's something that I think is a double edged sword 523 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 5: because one way it can push me to forge that 524 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 5: path to hopefully become that best version of myself or 525 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 5: meet that gold time. But in other ways, it's like 526 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 5: I got to give myself grace. I can't always expect 527 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: that I'm gonna be perfect. 528 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: You know. 529 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: The first time I go on that long run or 530 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: the first time that I asked this of myself, I 531 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 5: remember doing when I was home a lot doing double workouts. 532 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 5: I would go to core power and then I would 533 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: go and do a run, And for me, I. 534 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 6: Was like, okay, like that, it's great and all, but when. 535 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 5: You start traveling, you can't really keep up that schedule 536 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 5: as much. 537 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 6: And just giving myself. 538 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: That grace and understanding that, you know, again, when I 539 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: decided to run Chicago, my life looked completely different than 540 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 5: it does now, and understanding that what do you want 541 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 5: to take away from this? 542 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 6: And what I want to take away is. 543 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 5: Hopefully the idea that one I want to run more marathons, 544 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: but I think I'm pretty sold on that idea already, 545 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: but also just ways that I can can you continue. 546 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 6: To serve and use my platform? 547 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: And I think that it's been really neat to see 548 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: people watch how I've kind of merged both realms of 549 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: my life, which is the physical and athletic piece, but 550 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 5: then also this platform of being miss Usa. 551 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm curious, she always says. Now, I don't not saying this. 552 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: Is going to be you. 553 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: But when you run your first marathon, she used to 554 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: always say, when you get done, you're either going to 555 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: say I can wait to sign up, when's the next one? 556 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Or you say I ain't ever doing this shit again 557 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: in my life. You're only one of two people at 558 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: the end of it. We can't wait to talk to 559 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: you all. 560 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Sunder Oh great, great, great great. 561 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: Have you had a run that ruled you, a run 562 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 3: that made you think I might not make this, I 563 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 3: might not be able to do this. 564 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: Have you had one of those. 565 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: Moments, those low moments when you doubt yourself and your 566 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: ability to make this happen. 567 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I had a run probably about two months 568 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: ago where I didn't like really stretch as well before 569 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 5: I started, and I. 570 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 6: Was like two miles in, I was like, dang, why 571 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 6: is my knee hurt? 572 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 5: So I was like, I got off the treadmill and 573 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: I called my mom and she's like, well, did you 574 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 5: run cold? And I was like yeah. She's like, Okay, 575 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 5: don't do that again. Things like that, I guess like 576 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 5: whenever I have like like oh. 577 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 6: That I made my ankle hurts and maybe my knee hurts, 578 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 6: and I'm like and then like I could tastrophize. I'm like, 579 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, I'm not gonna be able to do it. 580 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: But I'm like, okay, calm down, like go back to 581 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 5: the things that worked. 582 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 6: So I guess in those moments. 583 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: I really try to be like, Okay, I'm spiraling. This 584 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: is not the truth, and I'm glad that I have 585 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: people around me who bring me back to earth. 586 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 3: People who don't run long distance might not they it 587 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: is physical, of course, but how much of a long 588 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 3: distance run would you attribute to it being mental strength 589 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: versus physical? 590 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: So I would. 591 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 5: Say like at this point, I mean the past month, like, yes, 592 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 5: I've been running, but I've been reading more David Goggins, 593 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 5: similar to I mean I read David Goggins before I 594 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 5: got ready from This USA, but again reading it again 595 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: not only from this universe but for the marathon and 596 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: just strengthening my mind. And I'm currently reading Never Finished, 597 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: but just his second book. I read Can't Hurt Me 598 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 5: before Miss USA. And for me, it's just about reminding 599 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 5: myself that I have put in the work that this 600 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 5: will show when I when I get in those moments, 601 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 5: and mentally I have to trust that. 602 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 6: But I would say, like the long. 603 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 5: Distance piece, when you're getting into those miles, it's like, hey, 604 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 5: you got to trust your mentality, and your mentality has 605 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: to be fueled by positive affirmations and things that are 606 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 5: affirming the work that you've already put in. 607 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: We're at cart totally and Michael Singer folks ourselves, so 608 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: we read a whole lot as well. And what is 609 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: in your AirPod? 610 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: What are you listening to when you're up? 611 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm eating. 612 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: I'm listening to a lot of Fred again, John Summit, 613 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff I listened to on the treadmill. 614 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 6: Not like us. 615 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: You just spoke his language, Kendrick Lamar. 616 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 5: And then I would also say maybe a phone call from. 617 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: My mom too, so you'll talk on the phone. Yes, 618 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 4: a running time mom. 619 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 620 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 5: Sometimes if I like, if I'm in a really long run, 621 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, I'm at this mile. 622 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: What do you think? 623 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: So it's so funny. It was the New York City 624 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 3: Marathon last year. My dad was texting me, but you know, 625 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: you have Siri in your here telling you what everyone's 626 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: texting you. And my dad was tracking TJ and me, 627 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: and we were doing really well because I too wanted 628 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: to get a sub for We were right. 629 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: There, okay, we were. 630 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: We were about to crush under four you want to 631 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: say it. And we got up to mount We're past 632 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: twenty miles, kay, And I'm telling you we were going 633 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: to annihilate four hours. 634 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: He was like, games, I'm so proud of you. 635 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 3: You're killing it. And I was feeling the love. And 636 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, it was really hot. Last year, 637 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: I had a lot of water. That water started jiggling 638 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: in my stomach, and about mile twenty two I started vomiting, 639 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: like goodness while I was running, and then I had 640 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: to stop. 641 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: And anyway, bottom line, we ended up at four fourteen. 642 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 6: Oh that's okay. 643 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: It was about a ten minute stop. You don't understand album. 644 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: It was bad. And my parents started then texting me. 645 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: They thought, like I was in a medical clinic, like 646 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: in a tent with IV fluids. 647 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 4: I was like, it's not that traumatic, but I went. 648 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: I pushed it a little bit too fast for the 649 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: weather conditions. Weather is everything when you're running, but when 650 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: you're a runner, you have to prepare for everything mentally 651 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: and physically. And that's just one of those things. And 652 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: every marathon's different. That's been my experience. So I can't 653 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: wait to hear how your first is. But my god, 654 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: like you don't even seem slightly nervous. 655 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: You seem like, hell, yeah, let's get this done. Been 656 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: there almost done that. 657 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 5: Yes, I do have a little bit of nerves, but 658 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 5: I just feel like I feel very similar to when 659 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: I was competing from this USA, Like you got a 660 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: little bit of nerves, but you're just really really excited 661 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: and you're like, you know, whatever happens, Like I just 662 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: want to go out there and have fun. 663 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 6: So I think if I just keep them mentality, hopefully. 664 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: All as well. 665 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: We weren't able to get into fully your whole biography here, 666 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: but for folks who are maybe getting exposed to you now, 667 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: clearly your resume speaks for itself, and just we got 668 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: to meet you for the first time back here, and 669 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: you just you just have an aura. You just exude this. 670 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: You come from good folks. Yeah, it's clear. So for 671 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: folks here and folks who are listening, where does that 672 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: come from? Where did it get instilled to you? This 673 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: perfectionist attitude. You were very little when you realize you 674 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do this. You want to be in the military, 675 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: you want to do pagets. You're a little girl. Yes, 676 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: what I know your parents have a lot to do 677 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: with it, but get pokes an idea of where this 678 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: comes from, that what they're seeing right. 679 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 6: Now for sure. 680 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 5: I would say my grandmother, whose ashes are on my necklace, 681 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 5: she just exuded this energy from the from you know, 682 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 5: the drive through at McDonald's to the people she would 683 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: meet at church. I mean every single person she met, 684 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: she just made them feel like they were the only 685 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: person on earth and just lit them up and fed 686 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 5: them energy and filled their cup. 687 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 6: And I just love that. I mean, my grandma was 688 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 6: my best friend. Her name was also Alma. 689 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: And for me, when she had passed away, I just 690 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: told myself, you know, I promised to make you proud, 691 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 5: and for me, I think from that promise on, I 692 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 5: decided to go to West Point. I just I feel 693 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: like it really stemmed from all the time I spent 694 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 5: with her growing up. Because when my dad would be deployed, 695 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 5: we would go and spend the night at my grandparents' 696 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: house and so I would, you know, help set up 697 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 5: for church and we would do the offerings ben and 698 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 5: it was just me and my sister, my grandma, and 699 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 5: then my mom also, I would say, my mom and 700 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 5: my dad have been huge support systems throughout my whole life. 701 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 5: They've always taught me one your tough, Alma, whatever you face, 702 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: you can overcome. And two, whatever it is you want 703 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 5: to be or become, you can be or become. And 704 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: for me, I mean that's manifested in so many ways, 705 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 5: but definitely those three people for sure. 706 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: Can I ask how old were you when you lost 707 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 2: your grandma? 708 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 6: I was sixteen. 709 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: Wow. I love the she's with you. Yes, she is 710 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: bringing her with you on the run round your neck. 711 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: That is so beautiful. 712 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: And for those folks who don't know who are listening, 713 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: talk about your mom. Your not just as just your 714 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: support SYSM, but as a runner. She was a battie 715 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: in her own house. 716 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 6: So my mom grew up as a migrant worker. 717 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: In the beafields of Idaho and literally ran her way 718 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: to a Division one track scholarship at Idaho State University. 719 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 6: She ran the eight hundred. 720 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 5: And for me, I mean I remember growing up, I'd 721 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 5: always know my mom went on run, but I didn't 722 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 5: know like how fast she actually was until we had 723 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 5: gone to Idaho when I was younger, and when I, 724 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 5: you know, went to our high school, she still had 725 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: her track records up with her twin sister, and. 726 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 6: I was like, Mom, what in the I didn't know this. 727 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 5: So when I got older, I you know, started running track, 728 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 5: and she was like, okay, like I'm going to coach 729 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 5: you and I would be getting my butt whooped up 730 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: the track by my mom. But for me, it was 731 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: just like this idea that I remember when I ran 732 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 5: my first mile my freshman year of high school, and 733 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: it was the freshman mile. It was like a huge, 734 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 5: huge race, and I she snuck her way onto the 735 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: into the track and called my splits from the two 736 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 5: hundred to the four hundred, to the two hundred to 737 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: the four hundred, and you know, every race, every endeavor, 738 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: from when I first started doing pageants to winning Miss USA. 739 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: She has been through all of it. 740 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 5: And so her goal has been to run a marathon, 741 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 5: and you know, I'm running one before her. 742 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 6: So now she's like, Okay, I've got to do it. 743 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: So I I just think, you know, this is a 744 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: big feat for both of us, and I'm even more 745 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: excited to come back and. 746 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: Cheer for her when she decides to run, or you 747 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 6: could run with her. I was gonna say, that's the 748 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 6: next best thing. 749 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: That would be amazing. Who's going to be along the 750 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: sidelines cheering you on. 751 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 5: Yes, I've got a couple friends through the military. I 752 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 5: also have Rebecca Ufford who is from the West Point 753 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 5: Parents Club of Michigan. She's coming to cheer me on, yes, 754 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 5: so she will be there. I have a friend from 755 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 5: Stanford who's also running, so I hope to see her 756 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 5: at the finish line. 757 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm just really really excited. 758 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: Like I know that by posting on like social media 759 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: to share like my journey and my story and hopefully 760 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 5: like uplift the platform the charity I'm running for, apnegar 761 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 5: that just I hope that all this is to uplift 762 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 5: other people, to serve, uplift other people, to understand all 763 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 5: that comes with being a part of like the mayor 764 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 5: on and running community, and also just merging the idea 765 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 5: that the only limits you face are the ones you accept. 766 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: I love that you talk about Miss USA. It's service. 767 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: The military is service. Everything you're doing is service. Can 768 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: I ask does the sash do you wear that during 769 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: the marathon? 770 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: No? 771 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 5: I will not be wearing this, unfortunately, everybody was hoping 772 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 5: that I will be. 773 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 6: I will be flashing my smile at the end though, and. 774 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: Talk about the charity that you're running for, because this 775 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 3: is so important. This isn't a lot of us runners 776 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: aren't running just for our own personal records or own prs, 777 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: although that would be nice, but so much of a 778 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: runner's journey on a race is about being of service 779 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: and raising money for charities that we love, so tell 780 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: us about yours. 781 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: So Appnagar is not just a shelter, It's a lifeline 782 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 5: for a lot of people. They're fighting for gender and 783 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 5: just fighting against gender injustices and domesticolence around the world. 784 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 5: And October is Gender Violence Awareness Month, and so for me, 785 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 5: I just think it's an awesome opportunity to give this 786 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 5: charity and this organization the opportunity to know that I 787 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 5: support them, and I want to see more people get 788 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: involved and impact their communities in ways they can, whether 789 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 5: it's donating to a shelter in their hometown or coming 790 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 5: and running a marathon with Team Apnagar. I just think 791 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 5: that for me, I'm really about empowering people and giving 792 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 5: people a voice, and I feel like, you know, Miss 793 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 5: USA is all about women's empowerment. So it's a really 794 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 5: neat opportunity to get to run with them and to 795 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 5: hopefully represent for an organization that's bigger than myself. 796 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: All this you're doing remind me, tell what you're doing 797 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: at Stanford. 798 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: So I'm in a two year master's program at Stanford 799 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 5: University through the night Hennessy Scholarship. There's nearly ten thousand 800 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: applicants around the world and eighty four recipients in the 801 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three cohort, and I'm currently earning my masters 802 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 5: in data science at Stanford. 803 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: Out this eighty four yes? So you blew by that. 804 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: I know you don't want to what do you call it? 805 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: A humble brag? Sometimes? 806 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: Yes, the humble She slid that. 807 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: In there, that she was in competition with ten thousand 808 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: people all over the world, only eighty four yes were selected. 809 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: So I know you don't want toot you all, horror brag. 810 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: That's a big deal, and it's a scholarship. Maybe you 811 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: all haven't necessarily heard of, but it is a prestigious 812 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: and a big deal that she has received that scholarship 813 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: and she's doing what she's doing. 814 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: When do you finish your studies there? 815 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 5: So I'll finish next next year, next year here? 816 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: And what do you want to do with those prestigious degrees? 817 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 818 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 5: Well, I am so honored to serve as a second 819 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 5: lieutenant in the United States Army. I graduated from West 820 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 5: Point in May of twenty twenty three, and I commissioned 821 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: as a military intelligence officer. So I'm really thrilled to 822 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 5: go to a basic officer leadership course for. 823 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 6: My branch and to continue on with my career as 824 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 6: an Army officer. 825 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 3: It is it is so incredible to see how many 826 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: young women. I know you're inspiring, and not just young women, 827 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: but for anyone who thinks how many people out there, 828 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: even those who are listening right now and have said 829 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 3: to me, There's no way I could run a marathon. 830 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: There's no way I could run a half marathon, There's 831 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: no way I could run more than a mile. 832 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 4: What do you say to people who think they can't 833 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 4: do something? 834 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: I would say, if you can see me, you can 835 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 5: be me, and the idea that I you know, I've 836 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: heard a ton of nos. 837 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 6: I've heard there's no way. 838 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 5: I've heard oh, you know, you could try, but I 839 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 5: don't know. And I've also heard you got this, Alma, 840 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 5: you can do this. 841 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 6: I believe in you. If everyone says no, I'm the 842 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 6: person who's gonna say yes. 843 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 5: And I feel like when you listen to those voices 844 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 5: and you give those voices, the spotlight. That's what uplifts you, 845 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 5: and I hope I can be that for people all 846 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: around the world. 847 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 6: Just let them know that you know dare greatly. Go 848 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 6: forth with passion, go back, go forth with. 849 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 5: Purpose, and know that your story is not only deserving 850 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: of being in those places, but belongs there. 851 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: So to close here, to wrap up with you, and 852 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people are dealing with this and still 853 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what they're going to do. I don't 854 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: know either. What is today as we're talking to you here. 855 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: It is Friday until eleventh yea Friday evening, So Friday, 856 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: Saturday and to Sunday. What is your rest routine? What 857 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: is your diet. 858 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: For the next couple of days leading up to the race. 859 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say bagels, impasta. 860 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 6: I drink a lot. 861 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 5: I love coffee, like iced coffee, so I'm gonna have 862 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 5: one more on Saturday, and then I'm not going to 863 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 5: have any on Sunday because I don't want to have 864 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 5: to use the bathroom that much. And then probably just 865 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 5: getting a good night's rest tonight and tomorrow evening, probably 866 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 5: reading some David Goggins and making some phone calls home 867 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 5: for some good wishes before Sunday. 868 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 4: It's funny. 869 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: Anyone out there who's listening who hasn't run a marathon. Yes, 870 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 3: the training is key, but what to eat and maybe 871 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 3: even more importantly, what. 872 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 4: Not to eat is so important. And it's funny. 873 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: This is my number six and I don't think I've 874 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: figured it out yet because it's like, ooh, that didn't work. 875 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: Oh, let me try this. I mean, it's just do 876 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 4: you fuel along the way? Do you how much? 877 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 3: Do you stop at the water stations? Do you take 878 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: the goo? Like I'm curious what your plan is? 879 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 5: Yes, my goal, based off what I've talked with my 880 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 5: my friend who's done a lot of marathons, is I'm 881 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 5: gonna take the bananas when i can water at the 882 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: A stations. 883 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 6: I've got some noon tablets for my little water bottle. 884 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: I've got honey Stinger choes. Yeah, I've got I've got 885 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 5: a little I've got I've got a pretty thick flip 886 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 5: belt on my head my way, so. 887 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 4: The flip bell is great. Just I hope it doesn't chafe, 888 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 4: like there's always. 889 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 6: A I've got chafe butter. 890 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: It's so funny because I've made different choices each time. 891 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: And they've all been good, and then they've some of 892 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: them have been bad. 893 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh it's wild where life takes you. 894 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm a girl, oh man, sitting those stags with my 895 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: girlfriend and Miss USA talking about chafing and bathroom breaks. 896 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 2: It's awesome. You just never know what life's gonna take you, right, 897 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 2: you never know. 898 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 4: Which mile do you prefer? The porta Potti? 899 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: No? 900 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: I mean that's literally you have these conversations that you 901 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: probably should never have with your significant other, and yet 902 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: they're vital. When you're about to run a race together, 903 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 3: you start talking about things you never thought you would 904 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: talk about. 905 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 4: With complete strangers. 906 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: But that's what happens. It's a community us runners. What 907 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: are you most looking forward to? 908 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 5: I guess just the energy of running through the streets. 909 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I've run half marathons on Post at West 910 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: Point and there's a there's cheers all over the post. 911 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 6: But to run it in Chicago, I know that it's 912 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 6: going to be electric, and I have my headphones. 913 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 5: But I'm probably gonna keep them off for the first 914 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 5: little bit, just to hear the audience and to hear everyone, 915 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 5: because that I think is so uplifting and so positive 916 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 5: and can be definitely help find another gear. 917 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 6: I get tired out there. 918 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: It is so funny to hear I have made long 919 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: playlists before, but in New York, I turn the music off. 920 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: Just the energy you want to take in. 921 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: Dear lady, we can't say it enough, and I hope 922 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: everybody here well please help us. And thanking miss USA 923 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: Alma Cooper for being here. Throw a good luck as well. 924 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: She's a first timer on Sunday. A lot of you, 925 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: but we got to read about you, and we were 926 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: so excited for you to be here, but you came 927 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: as advertised. You are just a wonder to behold and 928 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: someone I would absolutely love for my daughter, who's eleven 929 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: years old to look up to. 930 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: So it was just so much TJ. 931 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 6: I really appreciate that. 932 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, TJ's got an eleven year old. I have a 933 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 3: twenty one year old and an eighteen year old. In fact, 934 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: my twenty one year old thought it was really cool 935 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 3: to send me a text today saying she ran three 936 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 3: miles in honor of us running the marathon this weekend. 937 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: But every mile matters and every mile accounts, and. 938 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: You are an inspiration to so many people, but especially 939 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 3: we appreciate it. As parents of daughters for what you're 940 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: showing the world women can do. So thank you Alma 941 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: for Miss USA. Good luck in Miss World. Thank you 942 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 3: appreciate at the marathon, and we can't wait to see 943 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 3: your time which is clearly gonna smoke ours. 944 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: But guys, thank you folks as always for listening to 945 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: us on the Amy and TJ podcast. Before you, folks 946 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: here in the center, thank you for spending some time 947 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: here with us. 948 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: We'll see y'all soon.