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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to What Future. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Joshua Tapolski, and today we got a real banger, we

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Speaker 1: got a real killer episode. We have invited back our

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Speaker 1: friends Emil de Rosa and Ben Khan, formerly known as

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Speaker 1: the hosts of a show called Trillionaire Mindset. But they

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Speaker 1: have gone through a transition to a new place. They

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Speaker 1: are moving on into a new state of being, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to them about it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: about other stuff, because they're super interesting and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to waste any time, so let's just get right

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Speaker 1: into it. I want to set the scene actually for

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Speaker 1: the people who are listening to this and it cannot

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Speaker 1: see it. I've got Emeal and Ben here. They're back,

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Speaker 1: and Emil is in a Uh he's in what looks like,

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Speaker 1: I'd say a teenager's bedroom. Maybe actually it looks like

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Speaker 1: it looks like a bedroom maybe where where somebody where

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Speaker 1: it was It came pre it came pre decorated. He's

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Speaker 1: an hotel. Where are you okay? He's waiting, waggling his

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Speaker 1: fingers saying no. He's trying to get a worded edgewise.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's a dining room that has a desk off

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Speaker 2: the side, and I think he's maybe referring to my

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Speaker 2: very cool uh New Yorker artwork on the wall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every team has. Yeah, it looks like it looks

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Speaker 1: like the department came with the New Yorker poster. That's

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Speaker 1: it doesn't insult to you, or maybe you'll take it

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Speaker 1: as an insult, okay. And then Ben much worse situation.

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Speaker 1: He's sitting on a gray It looks like a sofa.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell. It may be a nice sofa, but

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Speaker 1: it looks like one of those sofas you see on

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Speaker 1: the curb, you know, like someone threw it out because

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Speaker 1: they got a new sofa. But that's the one. I

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Speaker 1: hate this sofa, Yeah, that's the one you have. And

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Speaker 1: then above you, directly symmetrically perfect above you is a

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Speaker 1: in through wall air conditioner with the cord hanging down.

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Speaker 1: So it's a real like one of the guys who

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Speaker 1: gets killed and breaking bad during like a meth deal

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Speaker 1: gone wrong. That's like the it's sort of that vibe. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not here to drag your apartments, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm here to talk about some real shit. I'm here

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Speaker 1: to talk about some heavy stuff. But before we get

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Speaker 1: into it, Emil, did you get your nose pierced since

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Speaker 1: the last time we talked or was it Pierce? When

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Speaker 1: the last time we talked.

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Speaker 2: It was Pierce, But I might have I might have

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Speaker 2: switched out the piercings. I think I might have had

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Speaker 2: a stud last time, which is probably harder for you

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Speaker 2: to see.

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Speaker 1: That's right, even though we've got a very high resolution. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: video images here. I like it. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm now rocking a gold nose ring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm My wife has septem piers, so I've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of different varieties of septum jewelry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. You can play with them. Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a summer accessory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. Maybe I'll get a piercing of

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Speaker 1: some sort. Maybe I'll I had my eyebrow pierce in

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Speaker 1: my rave days that it grew out, which I thought

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Speaker 1: was like the universe telling me not to have my

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Speaker 1: eyebrow peers. It was sort of like my body rejected

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Speaker 1: the concept, like the style, which I think is good.

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Speaker 1: All right, So listen, let's I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: a few things here that are very important. Now, you

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Speaker 1: guys were on the show pretty recently, and after the show,

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Speaker 1: by the way, because I had to listen to some

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Speaker 1: episodes of it and watch some of you guys on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: And then after the show, I was telling everybody I

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Speaker 1: could find. I was like, these guys are really funny,

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Speaker 1: you should eat and interesting. You should check out their podcast.

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Speaker 1: Then I get some news. My phone starts blowing up

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Speaker 1: just recently, and I see that you have left the

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Speaker 1: trillionaire mindset completely and moved on. That's correct, And you

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Speaker 1: now have a new podcast. Is that correct? That's right?

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Speaker 1: Am I getting all this right? Is right? And your

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Speaker 1: new podcast is called don't I don't want to mispronounce it,

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Speaker 1: but is it called pay Pigs? Is that correct? Pay

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Speaker 1: pigs with Ben and a meal? That is correct? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: paypigs with Ben and the meal.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to make sure that is as soon as

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Speaker 2: trillion in our mindset was was off the air, that

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Speaker 2: we were right there with our audience still, and so

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Speaker 2: we got to work. We built out, We built out

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Speaker 2: an entire studio.

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Speaker 1: You did, Why are you not coming to me from

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Speaker 1: the studio an exact replica of a Meal's apartment. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming you didn't get to take the desk, which you

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Speaker 1: know I was very enamored with. You didn't get the

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Speaker 1: desk for to get the desk? What happened? Can you

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Speaker 1: tell me what happened? Why did Why is trillion our

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Speaker 1: mindset not happening. You can give me the clean version,

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Speaker 1: like the edited for radio version if you want, or

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Speaker 1: you can give me the truth. That's up to you.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Emil, would you like me to feel this take

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Speaker 3: a stab at it partner?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna take you stop.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Charlie Manson's style with that him, but

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Speaker 3: one of the other ones.

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Speaker 1: That would be someone else explained, No, he did. He

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Speaker 1: told people to stab. But you should actually now tell

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Speaker 1: Emial to do it because that would be more Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: No, No, Emil is Chirlie Manson in this case. I'm one

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Speaker 3: of the girls of Summer.

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Speaker 1: It's a great and I guess you, I guess great

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Speaker 1: stuff to be thinking about right now. But all right,

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Speaker 1: let's here in a very dark place, Oh Jay Simpson,

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Speaker 1: I'll go okay, so allegedly true.

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Speaker 3: So basically, we came to a point with contracts where

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Speaker 3: we just were at an impasse and had to part ways,

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Speaker 3: and due to confidentiality agreements, we can't really say much

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Speaker 3: more than that except for the yeah, we're now on

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Speaker 3: our own.

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, I mean classic media story Taylor, as old

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Speaker 1: as time. I'm sure you've been there plenty of times.

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Speaker 3: I have. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know, the funny thing about it is it's

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Speaker 1: weird to do something within a within a business where

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Speaker 1: you don't actually have ownership of stuff. And again I'm

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Speaker 1: not I don't know your your total the exact situation,

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Speaker 1: but obviously, like if you had ownership of trillion our mindset,

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Speaker 1: you presumably would still be doing that, maybe just not

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Speaker 1: with the same crew, right right. Actually, one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons I ended up eventually doing a startup was because

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Speaker 1: the idea of pouring all of this like energy and

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Speaker 1: passion and creativity into something that I ultimately could not

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Speaker 1: own in any way was you know, it sucked. It sucks,

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Speaker 1: you know to a degree. I mean there's certain things

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Speaker 1: doing you you work at H and R Block or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you're like doing taxes for people like I don't

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, I wish I could take ownership of

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Speaker 1: these people's taxes. That doesn't make any sense, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, there's a lot of work you

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Speaker 1: do if you work in retail, for instance, Like you're

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Speaker 1: not like, why don't I own the gap? Probably right?

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Speaker 1: But if you've built something like from the ground up

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Speaker 1: that is like has your essentially your name and personality

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Speaker 1: attached to it, and you don't own it, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a painful. It's painful to have to walk away from it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not putting words in your mouth, but no, no,

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Speaker 1: you you're you're on the right track. And that's not

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Speaker 1: also a condemnation of TMG Studios are our former home

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Speaker 1: at all. It's uh, it's one of those things where

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't have been able to do what we did

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Speaker 1: or create what we created without TMG Studios, without their reach,

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Speaker 1: their expertise, their resources, and that comes at a cost,

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Speaker 1: right you.

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Speaker 3: It would be bad business of them to just be like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: and you guys can just the thing and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So yes, well you get what you're looking for. You,

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Speaker 1: I totally get it. I mean, I can make an

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Speaker 1: argument here. I could make an argument. May perhaps I

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Speaker 1: will make an argument that listen, this is I don't

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of wild contract shit that happened here,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's a probably very difficult time in

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Speaker 1: many ways to leave behind a creation. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's like you two are the replaceable part in

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Speaker 1: my opinion of trillionaire mindset. That's just one man opinion,

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Speaker 1: of course. Could you say replaceable or irreplaceable? No, did

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Speaker 1: I say replaceable. I didn't mean to cut out. I

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Speaker 1: just want to I just want to clarify for the audience.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I That is not what I think

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Speaker 1: what I thought I said was in Jenna. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: can check the tape. But you guys are the irreplaceable

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Speaker 1: part of trillion our mindset in my opinion. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and so I assume that the people who like trillion

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Speaker 1: our mindset are going to be eager to find pay Pigs.

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Speaker 1: I do have to ask, though, tell me about the name.

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Speaker 1: I know what the name. I know essentially what the

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the name Paypigs and and

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Speaker 1: what how that came came to be?

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Speaker 2: The title Ben, So, would you like to be Charlie

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Speaker 2: Manson at this point, and I'll be one of the gals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, yeah, go take out that stabbing knife we had.

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Speaker 3: We had to come up with a new name, a

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Speaker 3: new brand for the boys. We're in a funny space,

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Speaker 3: which is sometimes we get lumped into finance bros.

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Speaker 1: And it can be.

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Speaker 2: The last thing we want is for people to be

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Speaker 2: intimidated by the subject matter, right, and so we were

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Speaker 2: always just thinking the same with joy in our mindset.

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Speaker 2: You know, we want something that lets people know it's

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Speaker 2: not your typical thing. It's gonna be goofy, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be accessible, it's gonna be fun, It's gonna be funny. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: so I might I imagine you might be referring to the

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Speaker 2: fact that pay pigs is a term in the kink community.

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Speaker 1: It's a it is a Yeah. I mean that's how

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Speaker 1: That's what I know it to be because I am one,

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Speaker 1: you know, hardcore pay pig. A pay pig is like

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Speaker 1: somebody who it's partially like maybe there are other meanings,

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Speaker 1: but it's like a person who like wants to give

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Speaker 1: someone money. Yeah, it's someone who gets off on financial domination.

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Speaker 1: So you'll often see it findom exactly.

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Speaker 2: You'll often see it in the Wall Streets base, where

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Speaker 2: guys who have a lot of money will give you know,

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Speaker 2: say a dominatrix a credit card, and they'll have her

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Speaker 2: go out and spend a bunch of money, and they'll

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Speaker 2: be you know, cleaning them in on how they're using

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Speaker 2: their credit card and everything. And so we thought it

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Speaker 2: just kind of fit in well with kind of subject

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Speaker 2: matter we're talking about, and also our attitude about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, we kind of think these Wall Street guys

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Speaker 2: are ciccos we kind of think that these fat cats

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Speaker 2: down in DC are sick.

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Speaker 1: Goes okay, and Ben Ben isn't been a trader, hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a professional trader. Is that am I? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he's not a cicko. Sure, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: But financial domination is a really cool term, I think also,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like it does apply to what the

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Speaker 3: spirit of.

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Speaker 1: Wall Street and kind of the economy is too.

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Speaker 3: It's all about everybody's constantly getting financially dominated. We're all

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Speaker 2: It might have been like ear Roll or something like that,

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Speaker 2: but basically they were like, we didn't work for the

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Speaker 2: network system where it was all predicated on growth and

434
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Speaker 2: hitting growth numbers and all this thing. And he was like,

435
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Speaker 2: but what we did have was a very dedicated fan base.

436
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Speaker 2: And they ended up just moving away from the network

437
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Speaker 2: and then starting a Patreon and he was like, it's

438
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Speaker 2: sustainable if this many people want to do it, but

439
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Speaker 2: we can't. We're a weird show. I don't even know

440
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Speaker 2: how to explain it to people. And so the growth

441
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Speaker 2: model is very difficult but.

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Speaker 1: We will find this not you guys that yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: are you saying you're a whe You know that was

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Speaker 1: me quoting and pair of right right, right, Okay, I

445
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Speaker 1: didn't know where the quote was in. I wanted to

446
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Speaker 1: be coming to clarify for the listener because you weren't

447
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Speaker 1: doing air quotes the whole time, which is true is

448
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Speaker 1: traditionally expected when you're quoting someone else. She does this

449
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Speaker 1: all the time. I never know what he's talking about. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: It's like I just wanted to be sure that you

451
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Speaker 1: were now not talking about your podcast. No, we're going

452
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Speaker 1: to grow. Yeah, no, I think that's very likely if

453
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Speaker 1: you've only done one episode. If you don't grow after that,

454
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Speaker 1: then I think we'll know. You know, it was a

455
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Speaker 1: great ride, but unfortunately time to hop off the train

456
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Speaker 1: and hit the hit Walmart or whatever. But you know,

457
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Speaker 1: I think the thing that you're talking about having this

458
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Speaker 1: like this following is so valuable. And there's a great

459
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Speaker 1: interview with the showrunner or the creator of The Babysitters

460
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Speaker 1: Club show on Netflix. I don't know if you've read this,

461
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Speaker 1: and I believe the interviews in New York Magazine and

462
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Speaker 1: you know they were canceled after two seasons. But she's like,

463
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Speaker 1: our viewership was you know, Netflix doesn't share numbers. It

464
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Speaker 1: was really interesting to hear this. She's like, our viewership

465
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Speaker 1: was higher than like most shows on Netflix and also

466
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Speaker 1: from other in if you look at the competitive landscape

467
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Speaker 1: of shows in that kind of genre or like, that

468
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Speaker 1: totally killed them in terms of viewership, Like it had

469
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Speaker 1: a huge audience, but in the world of Netflix, if

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Speaker 1: it's not if it's not like a squid game kind

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Speaker 1: of audience, then they're just sticked down at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the list, right Like so in the if you

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Speaker 1: look at that that little microcosm, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: world of Netflix, Babysitters Club was something even though it

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Speaker 1: had like more viewership than a typical network show, for

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Speaker 1: their purposes, it just it couldn't work, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I think like that's a good illustration of like where

478
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Speaker 1: having a dedicated, uh you know, fan base that wants

479
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Speaker 1: to follow you can be really powerful because you can

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Speaker 1: create things that are not going to be squid game level.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, not that you guys, who knows,

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Speaker 1: I mean, fucking paypas could be the next squid game.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, you know, a year from now, I

484
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Speaker 1: could be watching you guys battle to the death for

485
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Speaker 1: a huge prize. I haven't watched squid Game, so I'm

486
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Speaker 1: not really sure what the plot of it is, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's something like that.

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Speaker 2: You said that because we do we do play on

489
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Speaker 2: executing poor people in the future, so I'm glad you

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Speaker 2: mentioned that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I actually I had heard direst

492
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Speaker 1: saw that on the reddit. People were saying that was

493
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Speaker 1: getting me the season two. So okay. The business model

494
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Speaker 1: is for you. You have a Patreon. I can't just listen

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Speaker 1: to an episode. Can I just listen to an episode

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Speaker 1: for free? Right? I can't? You can? You can? I can't.

497
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Speaker 1: It's a widely available. But if I like you guys

498
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Speaker 1: and I want to support you, I go to Patreon

499
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Speaker 1: and I pay a monthly. Sometimes, I just.

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Speaker 2: Want to be clear, even if you hate us and

501
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Speaker 2: want to support us, you can get to patreon dot com.

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Speaker 1: Right right. If you were like a person who derived

503
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Speaker 1: some kind of pleasure from paying for things they didn't

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Speaker 1: want or like, sure like probably in somewhere in the

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Speaker 1: spectrum of pay pigging, there's some version of that, right Like,

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Speaker 1: that feels like a little bit of a tweak on

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Speaker 1: someone's using my credit card. I guess like a dominatrix

508
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Speaker 1: could be like, I'm subscribing myself to all of these

509
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Speaker 1: podcasts that you clearly dislike, and we are that's actually

510
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Speaker 1: a pretty good one. We're here for that. Like if

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Speaker 1: I were doming somebody and in a paypig scenario, I

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Speaker 1: would probably I'd be like, what's your favorite podcast, and

513
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Speaker 1: I'd find whatever the polar opposite of that is and

514
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Speaker 1: subscribe them to it. Yeah, that'd be a good idea.

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Speaker 1: You'd be a good domain interests. I'm thinking about going

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Speaker 1: into it. Actually, I'm thinking a little side gal, little

517
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Speaker 1: side hustle. You know, these days you got to be

518
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Speaker 1: you always got to have something on the side.

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Speaker 3: But sorry, Ben, I think you were. You were in

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Speaker 3: the middle of Explainabar before. The model that we had

521
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Speaker 3: before was we had Trillionaire Mindset, which was a show

522
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Speaker 3: about finance and news in the markets, right, and then

523
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Speaker 3: behind a paywall separately you could get Trillionaire Mindset ad free,

524
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Speaker 3: and then on top of that we did bonus content.

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Speaker 3: We did another hour of just us shooting the shit.

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Speaker 3: It's just it was no no holds bar just whatever

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Speaker 3: we wanted to talk about, and we got pretty There

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Speaker 3: were some pretty emotional episodes where there was a mail

529
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Speaker 3: bag episode where people asked us some pretty intimate questions

530
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Speaker 3: and we shared just our feelings, thoughts, experiences, life, life

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Speaker 3: lessons and stuff, and people really really responded to that

532
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Speaker 3: and that was really cool because there was a lot

533
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Speaker 3: of just out pouring of support and.

534
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Speaker 1: Love and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right, and now we are, since we are still just

536
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Speaker 3: hitting the ground running and bought all the equipment ourselves

537
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Speaker 3: and kind of scrambled to make this happen, we are

538
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Speaker 3: currently basically just doing that kind of show that after

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Speaker 3: hours e kind of show that's just us shooting the

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Speaker 3: shit right for free, with the extra time behind a paywall.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, so there is a paywall component, but

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Speaker 1: it's not the main course essentially, is that right? Right? Yeah?

543
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Speaker 1: And then with Patreon we've got other stuff.

544
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Speaker 3: There's perks, like there's a discord and there's a there's

545
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Speaker 3: two live shows that have sold out so far. I

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Speaker 3: mean they sell out within twenty four hours, so hey,

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Speaker 3: you get it.

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Speaker 1: You did those? Those are done. The second one is

549
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Speaker 1: on July eleventh, isn't the one in Brooklyn, the jourdy

550
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Speaker 1: to that one at the Bellhokay, right, I think I

551
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Speaker 1: try to come out and see that one. But how

552
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Speaker 1: are you doing it?

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Speaker 2: Those were those were never called Billionaire Mindset Live. Those

554
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Speaker 2: were always been in a meal live that was just

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Speaker 2: me and Ben.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So that part of it was not part of

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Speaker 1: the contractual arrangement with the right. Right. Okay, okay, that's good,

558
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Speaker 1: that's smart, that's great. You keep doing the live show

559
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Speaker 1: you what level of the Patreon would I have to

560
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Speaker 1: put in to become an ongoing part of the podcast,

561
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Speaker 1: like an on air part of that? What would the

562
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Speaker 1: investment on a Patreon level be for someone if they

563
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Speaker 1: were a super fan not saying me, but a one

564
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Speaker 1: someone who follows you. Is there a number that you

565
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Speaker 1: think like an ongoing like a monthly installment payment of

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Speaker 1: X gets you you are a recurring guest on the podcast. Oh,

567
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Speaker 1: I mean that would happen like twenty five thousand dollars

568
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Speaker 1: a month and you get to be a recurring guest

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. That's not enough.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say like five hundred dollars. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 3: Now once a month we have a ten minute segment.

572
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Speaker 3: What five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: No, that's too low. I think that's not him and

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Speaker 1: someone else. Well, yeah, I would pay more. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if anything, I wouldn't bring any permanent guest, so well,

576
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Speaker 1: like a recurring let's say, well, actually you could have tears, right,

577
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Speaker 1: you could have a recurring guest, right, you get somebody

578
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Speaker 1: who comes on occasionally, maybe they get to be on

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Speaker 1: once a month or something. And then how many shows

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Speaker 1: do you think you're gonna do every week? You said

581
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Speaker 1: two or three? You don't know yet, two or three can? Okay,

582
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Speaker 1: the people are gonna want you to get specific about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do like once a month YouTube live for

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Speaker 1: like an hour hour and a half. Those are always

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Speaker 1: uh something? And what tier? Could I become a co

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Speaker 1: host on the YouTube live? Like? You guys got to

587
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Speaker 1: really spice up, you know you can. You could be

588
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Speaker 1: really creative with this, you know, Like, but what would

589
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Speaker 1: be a third host? What do you think the monthly

590
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Speaker 1: cost would be for someone to become the third host

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Speaker 1: of of pay picks? Yeah, I don't know. Five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm really good at negotiating it sounds well,

593
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Speaker 3: started high and then I went low.

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Speaker 1: You get Ony five thousand, and I was like, we're

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Speaker 1: in the money you addressed for the job that you want,

596
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Speaker 1: is what they say. And so five hundred bucks a

597
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Speaker 1: month for a permanent, permanent co host slot. No, we're saying, okay,

598
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Speaker 1: so there's YouTube Live. I want to just be I

599
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Speaker 1: want to be a I want to be on YouTube Live.

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Speaker 1: Not me again, I'm not and I'm not asking for

601
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Speaker 1: a friend. I'm just curious what would it cost someone?

602
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Speaker 1: Is there a number you could even consider for that's

603
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Speaker 1: for that's that type of thing. That is a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because that's the kind of crazy shit

605
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Speaker 1: you could do with a Patreon.

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Speaker 2: I would start considering anything above five thousand dollars a month.

607
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Speaker 2: I would entertain the idea because you have to remember,

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Speaker 2: if it was someone like you, you know, you've got

609
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Speaker 2: a lot of media experience, You've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: hohostry experience.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing.

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Speaker 2: But I would have to imagine this person is not

613
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Speaker 2: going to be that, and it'd rightly take the show

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Speaker 2: the just the third month, Who's like, not you get it?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so okay interesting, So you're like, well, five

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Speaker 1: thousand a month would be enough to possibly tank the show.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, you mean, just but just that YouTube live.

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Speaker 1: We can find a way to make it work. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking like what like ten grand a month,

620
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Speaker 1: fifteen grand a month for like a I'm a host

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Speaker 1: of the show, I'm a co host. I mean, you

622
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Speaker 1: could find some great talent that way. It's interesting, just an.

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Speaker 3: Interesting thought, thinking like what the couple of Saudi princes

624
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Speaker 3: that we have in our in our fan base?

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Speaker 1: Do you badly pay? Do you have Saudi princes in

626
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Speaker 1: your fan base? I doubt it, but that would be

627
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Speaker 1: fucking cool. Well, I don't know if you know this,

628
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Speaker 1: but the Saudis are making the Saudis are making a

629
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Speaker 1: lot of investments in US businesses and then just in

630
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Speaker 1: trying to diversify their you know, their holdings. I mean,

631
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Speaker 1: I think I assume you saw the news about why

632
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Speaker 1: they don't just actually my understanding is they're trying to

633
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Speaker 1: diverse fy away from from oil is actually a big

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Speaker 1: part of it, you know, And so you think immediately,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's a huge industry that's generating a ton

636
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Speaker 1: of money, like an oil level golf exactly exactly hit

637
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Speaker 1: the nail on the head. It's like military industrial complex, oil, professional.

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Speaker 4: Golf, just like those are the top tier money.

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Speaker 1: How about this? What are stories that are happening that

640
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Speaker 1: are unfolded that you may not have done or talked

641
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Speaker 1: about that much on Trilling your mindset? But you're going

642
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: to put a little bit more time and effort into

643
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Speaker 1: on the new show.

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Speaker 2: We've got the general election coming up that everyone's gonna

645
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Speaker 2: be talking will probably be we'll probably paying close attention

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00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: to politics.

647
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, more political commentary. Yeah, there's a lot of loopy

648
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: shit going on. We covered a lot of RFK, a

649
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of RSK. Junior, Oh yeah, RFK. What's going on

650
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: with this fucking guy? Okay, so a couple of things.

651
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: I ran into a funny conundrum where I can do

652
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: an impression of him very easily because he's got a

653
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: very distinct voice.

654
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: I've heard him speak. I mean, if you did it,

655
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: could you do a little bit for us here? I mean,

656
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on the spot. Sure.

657
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Well, he's got an affliction in a vocal box, so

658
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: he can't really talk.

659
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Oh right, that's what that is. What he sounds. It's

660
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: very very hard to listen to. Yeah, we were ablest

661
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: that's ablest of you. But fine, carry on, go ahead

662
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: fucking destroy your career's crime. We built the bulk of

663
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: the impression behind the paywall. Oh that's good, because you

664
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: know what's good. There's no way to any of that

665
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: could leak out and have people just saying you're a

666
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: fucking ableist. Behind closed doors, I mean, I would just say,

667
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: let me give you a little I'm gonna give you

668
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: a little professional advice now, if you don't mind, sure,

669
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I think by the way, I don't think. I don't

670
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: think you'll be dinged too bad on that. It is

671
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: a distinct way of speaking. But here's the thinking. You're

672
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: not making fun of him, but.

673
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: Doing an impression. Of doing an impression of the president

674
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: is like part of the game, right, every SNL, every

675
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: cast needs someone who can do Trump Biden can look.

676
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: That is the way he sounds, and you're not making

677
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: fun of his, of this issue that he has, You're

678
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: just trying to recreate his I just want to be clear,

679
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm joking about the ableism. I don't believe exactly what.

680
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't believe you doing a an impression of him

681
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: is ablest by nature, and in fact it's ablest to

682
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: say that it is in a way because it suggests

683
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: that the only reason you could be doing the impression,

684
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's just like you're where

685
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: does your brain? Why is your brain going?

686
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: What?

687
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: I mean?

688
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will say, if you're gonna do something

689
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: that's questionable, put it behind the paywall is like not

690
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: the answer in my opinion, Like on a professional I

691
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: give you on a professional level. If you're like, well

692
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: it's but it's behind the paywall, it almost adds it

693
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: makes it a little bit more problematic. I would say

694
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: in a way like if you didn't think it could

695
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: go on the main show, no, it's good, listen it

696
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: on the main show.

697
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: And then he wanted to and you wanted to talk

698
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: more about him, So I was like, all right, screw it,

699
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: let's just keep going.

700
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: You got to remember, Okay, here's the thing, like for

701
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: the big dogs, there's no repercussions. Okay, they're not going there.

702
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Nothing's going to happen to them, right right, Like Rogan,

703
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan had to like twenty years of podcast where

704
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: he's just sing the it said was saying the N

705
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: word for reasons that nobody just saying the most racist shit,

706
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: just the most crazy shit, like so racist, you're like,

707
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: there's no way to hear this without going that's just

708
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: patently racist. Yeah, and he was looking, I'm true, sorry

709
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: about that or whatever, and that was it. That was it.

710
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: He's fine. Spotify didn't do shit, people didn't stop listening,

711
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: and he's fine. Nobody's gonna say shit about it. You,

712
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: on the other hand, one false move, one wrong move,

713
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: one false step, and you'll be squashed like a bug

714
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: by people on Twitter. That'll be it for you. You'll

715
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: be nothing true. You'll be then that.

716
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad we cut out that segment where I make

717
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: fun of of Americans.

718
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: Then, so you know what happen is you'll have to

719
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: re emerge as a right wing person, which is the

720
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: only way to re establish your your dominance in the

721
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: podcasting where it was to start like a whatever, like

722
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: the Republican version of pay Pigs would be, which I did.

723
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: The same.

724
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: It's the same. We just say the R word now, right,

725
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: just like Rogan, just like broke in which I which

726
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: I like, which I am great. Okay, So anyhow, so

727
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: you talked about RFK, but RFK the thing that is

728
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: odd to me is that he's getting like regular coverage

729
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: because he's Robert Kennedy's child. We're like, okay, we gotta

730
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: take him seriously. But he has some like tremendously batshit

731
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: crazy ideas about medicine, like, you know, dangerously batshit crazy

732
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: ideas about like vaccines, Like he's like, you don't need

733
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: a vaccine, you just need to work out more. I mean,

734
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: like literally, there's a video. You've seen the video of him,

735
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I assume like doing push ups in genes. I assume

736
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I'll see in that. Yeah, videos, he's got a great body.

737
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: It's got a great body. I'd love to get he's

738
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: got a hard body, like to get my hands on it.

739
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: But then when body, if he starts talking about his ideas,

740
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: then we've got a real problem. I don't want it.

741
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: I think this is why you're seeing so much of him.

742
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: He's doing a good job of capturing this audience because

743
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: he's going on he's going on podcasts, which is you know,

744
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: the you know, in the twenty twenty election, some people

745
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: went on podcasts. Bernie Sanders went on Joe Rogan, do.

746
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: I hear am I hearing the invitation? I feel like

747
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I might be am I hearing an RFK Junior, You're

748
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: like saying I need to engage more with his I

749
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: would love to have him now, that would be great,

750
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: that would be huge for you. I'd like to get

751
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: our Jenna. Can we book RFK Junior on this podcast? Actually,

752
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, let's let's I would like to book

753
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: him if at all possible. Can we look into that? Sure?

754
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, sorry, let's get back back you guys.

755
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: He would probably do it. And that's the thing.

756
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Joe Biden doing a an hour and

757
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: a half longing?

758
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: Definitely? We also see we can book Joe Biden. You

759
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: would come on the show for an hour and a

760
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: half on my show? No, I don't think he would,

761
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: but there's it. You never know. He might. Maybe he

762
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: listens to it. Maybe his grandkids are like big if speech.

763
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: I'd fucking love to talk to Joe Biden. Man, he's

764
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: so cool. So he's the best. I love Joe Biden,

765
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: just a cool guy, just cruising Jenna. Can you please

766
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: put both Joe Biden and RFK Junior on the guest

767
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: list or just on the we want I'm dead serious,

768
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to reach out to his campaign, and Jenny,

769
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: can you just make sure you get to them before

770
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Ben does, because I need I need him, I need

771
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: to engage with him on some of his ideas in

772
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: the show.

773
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: And has no Booker now, right, so I'll beat him

774
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 5: no matter what.

775
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 1: All Right, you got to Booker. You're all on your own.

776
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Very good, Very good, Jenna, Thank you for that masterful

777
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: stroke of strategy. Right. You think that you think he's

778
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: getting attentions because he's going on podcasts. I think it's

779
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: a very podcaster centric view of things. Can I be

780
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: honest with you.

781
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: Dude, Everyone listens to the podcast, especially like the very

782
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: like online people who.

783
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Are Yeah, I'm not debating that I believe. I think

784
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: you're right, but I think it has a lot more

785
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that he's a Kennedy, I

786
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: have to tell you. And if I just on the

787
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: basic reality of our media landscape, I think, first off,

788
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: that family is a fascinating, weird, tragic It's the most

789
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: elvis of the political families, you know what I'm saying,

790
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Like they are the elvis of politics, if that makes

791
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: any sense. It's endlessly entertaining, It's fucking camelot. It's an

792
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: American story. The assassination is a mysterious, fucking Pandora's box

793
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: that we've never quite figured out. His assassination, his dad's assassination,

794
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, a Pandora's box. That whole thing is just

795
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: like you say, Kennedy, and people are immediately interested. They

796
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: want to like see that person. What sucks about it

797
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: is a person with these ideas should be fairly like

798
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: laughed out of the room by most serious people, and

799
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: he is laughed out of a lot of rooms, you know.

800
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, you know, this is so funny.

801
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: I hear myself saying it. And I think about people

802
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: going like, oh, you don't want people to have free speech,

803
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be able to express their opinions. Why shouldn't

804
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: he get coverage even if he doesn't agree with what

805
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: you agree with, And it's like, sure, you know that's true.

806
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: But I do think there's an outsized amount of attention

807
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: put on him because of his family name, not his

808
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: great policies.

809
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it also be because he's had

810
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: kind of a ground swell on social media. TikTok has

811
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: played a big part of it. Going on, Joe Rogan

812
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: was probably a huge, huge bump for him, because once

813
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: you get a compelling enough sound bite that catches fire

814
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: on the TikTok algorithm, then it's really hard to put

815
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: the genie back in the bottle, and then it becomes our.

816
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: It's like liver King, that guy fucking liver King for

817
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: a hot couple of months on TikTok and all the

818
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 3: liver media.

819
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Liver King.

820
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: Liver King is a guy who is all about like

821
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: living like caveman and living like caveman, and he's never

822
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: got his shirt on and he's just he eats like.

823
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: Is he rid?

824
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, And he was everywhere he was going

825
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: on every single podcast, and part of it was because

826
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: that's what the TikTok algorithm dictated.

827
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: Okay, putting him. Jenna Jennet, can we get liver King?

828
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: Can we get him on on the booking list? Would

829
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: like to talk to liver.

830
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 5: King from Grace, Like, I also think he really chased

831
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 5: off getting.

832
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: All this raw me.

833
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 5: He turned out to be like not who he said

834
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 5: he was.

835
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: Wow, Witch, it was that And it turns out that

836
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: he took steroids. Oh well. He stills one point eight

837
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: million followers on Instagram, though doesn't it. I mean, it's god,

838
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: oh humanity.

839
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: Do you know how much seething jealousy I felt when

840
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: you said, who's liver?

841
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: King? To not have that on my head? I'm definitely

842
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: less online than I have been in probably twenty years. Yeah,

843
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: So liver here is meaning like he's living, not like

844
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: in reference to the body part, right.

845
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: No, No, he hates a lot of raw liver because

846
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: because it's the most nutrient dense part.

847
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 5: You guys are all missing the commonalities here, which is

848
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: like you're talking about two white men with their shirt

849
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: off all the time, Like, well, true, and Joe Rogan

850
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 5: does that too, So I would just like to say

851
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 5: there's a common trophy.

852
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: Alex Jones. Alex Jones also took a shirt off a lot. Actually,

853
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: now that you mention it, maybe we're missing.

854
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: And out on all four of them. All four of

855
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: those guys are beat red.

856
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: For something from steroids. I think from drugs and steroids.

857
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: What I don't they don't seem like people who are

858
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: living actual healthy lifestyles, Like they don't. They don't strike

859
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: me as people who are legitimately in good like shape,

860
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: like like, yes, he looks like RFK Junior looks like

861
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: he's in good shape, but like one bad flu and

862
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: that guy's fucking done for right, Okay, straight up. I mean,

863
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: not everybody's gonna die from a bad flu, but it

864
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: doesn't help if you don't have the flu vaccine, you know,

865
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Speaker 1: And he's not getting that shit.

866
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 3: So I don't know a lot of these these right

867
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: wing people. Now, it seems like now they just they're

868
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: going back and questioning everything we've ever been taught. And

869
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: I saw a few months ago some some prominent right

870
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: wing accounts talking about how sunglasses are bullshit and how

871
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: they've been lying to us, and how it's actually good

872
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: for your eyes.

873
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: There's yeah, I mean, there's fucking it's crazy. The position

874
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: of the right wing party in this country is not

875
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: to go down a rabbit hole. But it's like there's

876
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: no policy position. It's all cultural and social and it's

877
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: all just a bunch of like a schmorgasboard of batshit

878
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: crazy grievances that have nothing to do with how anybody's

879
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: actually living their life. Like the trans stuff is like

880
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: it is a rounding error percentage of Americans who have

881
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: to consider or engage with anything happening with trans people,

882
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: and it has become a centerpiece of their policy for

883
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: reasons that is like beyond comprehension. I mean, I guess

884
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: they're trying to stir people up to think that, you know,

885
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: it's like their pedophile projection that somehow it's an extension

886
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: of their pedophile projection that like Democrats are really into

887
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: child abuse. That is the best they could come up with,

888
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: which is like a schoolyard taunt at best kind of

889
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: It's exhausting.

890
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think if you were to go

891
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: around any neighborhood and just knock on the door and

892
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: be like, hey, what are the things you're most concerned

893
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: about politically, Like what do you what do you what

894
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: do you most want to hear from a candidate? I

895
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: don't think the things that that person would say would

896
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: be the things that are being talked about.

897
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: On their news. They're like, I mean, yeah, it's.

898
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: Like they probably say, I want to be able to

899
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: afford the you know, healthcare for my family.

900
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Right job like jobs to the economy.

901
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: I want job safety, I want to make sure education

902
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: is available to my creators.

903
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: That kind of thing, Yes, normal things, normal things that

904
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: normal people think about. That is actually a problem.

905
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: And I think that's across the spectrum, Like that's left

906
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: and right. I don't care who whose door are you not?

907
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you, think people I do agree with you,

908
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: but I think generally speaking as of late, as of

909
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: like the last I don't know, let's say decade ish,

910
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: but definitely it's been going on for a long time,

911
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: but there is really only one party that seems to

912
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: be engaging with like trying to do things for people

913
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: who live in the country that like who need help

914
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: and need support. Like it feels like, you know, like

915
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Obamacare is a thing that would the Republicans did not

916
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: want that. They don't want people to have health insurance, like,

917
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: and people really want health insurance, and like the only

918
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: the people who say they don't want health insurance just

919
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: don't know that they need it. Like basically they're like

920
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: not really aware of how important having health insurance is.

921
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: You know, we're like one of the sickest countries in

922
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: the world, Like we have we have people who are

923
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: so sick and dying here and it's like has a

924
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the fact that

925
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: we don't have readily available, universally available health care for people.

926
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: Josh the Free, the free market will take care of that.

927
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: U COMMI sure, I mean, I'm not. I see lots

928
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: of wonderful, industrialized, very successful, very rich countries that have

929
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: uh just even a basic form of some kind of socializa.

930
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get up on my on my

931
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: soapbox here. You no, no, I understand, I know you agree

932
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: with me. You're a burney guy. You fucking give it

933
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: all away. You'd love to have everybody just just step

934
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: up to there's a you know, on every street corner,

935
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: there's a machine. You just hit a number and it

936
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: spits out as much money as you want. That's what

937
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: you'd like. I understand, you know, you know, but you

938
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: guys aren't. You're not living in reality. Fucking Bernie, you

939
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: know it's going to skateboard into the White House and

940
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: uh you know, fucking dude, hell you make America skate again, baby,

941
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: skateboard into the White House and turn off the military

942
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: industrial complex, leaving us exposed, our borders open, wide open,

943
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: fucking uh you know, exposed to the threat of the Chinese.

944
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: But hey, listen, could happen, could be see this is

945
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: where I'm trying to take the show in a more

946
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: of a RFKI junior direction, you know, like there's a

947
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: lot of money.

948
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of money direction. Look

949
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: at the lucrative director.

950
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: No it is, That's what I'm saying. And then once

951
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: the tapes aret come out, with all of his ableism,

952
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: he'll have to, unfortunately move in that direction, which is Emil.

953
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: You could, you could still, you could still salvage what's

954
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: left of your career here, but uh, it's gonna be

955
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: tough to get out from under that shadow. You know.

956
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: I will say I did participate. I played a I

957
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: was playing a reporter that was asking RFK Junior questions.

958
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: So I think I might be culpable if I were you,

959
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said that on another podcast. Personally, I

960
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it out. But yeah, Jenna, can we take Jenna?

961
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: Is there anybody we can cut that out? Hey, that's

962
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: just one guy's, one old guy's opinion. Okay, we should

963
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: wrap up. I mean, we could go for much longer,

964
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: and there are many things I'd love to talk to

965
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: you guys about, but all we will have to do

966
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: is I will give you that five thousand dollars a

967
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: month and then just pop on whenever no, you'll come back,

968
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: especially after you get after you get the paypig stuff rolling.

969
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: And so you've got a live show. I just want

970
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: to I want to recap, I want to give you

971
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: any I want to give you as much promo love

972
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: as humanly possible. You have a live show in Brooklyn

973
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: at the Bellhouse on July eleventh. What time does that

974
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: show start? That is such a good question. I don't know,

975
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because it's sold out. It's sold out,

976
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: a sold out fucking show. Look at these guys and

977
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: then filed out in a day. And pay pigs I

978
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: can find pay pigs on Instagram, pay pigs Pod at

979
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: paypigs Pod. Was you got a Twitter handle? What what's

980
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: your Twitter hand? All socials All Socials or pay pigs

981
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: pay pigs Pod. And what about if I'm on if

982
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: I want to hit if on a cruise to Patreon

983
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: that's Patreon dot com slash paypigs Pod. Correct, Apparently you

984
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: get a fifteen dollars a VC fund fifteen dollars a

985
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: month level. This is good stuff.

986
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: Very interesting to update that with with what you get

987
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: because so far it's just you know.

988
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no difference from piggy tear at this time, which

989
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, it doesn't. I'm not feeling like it's

990
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: selling me on it, but uh, you know, you got

991
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: to do your own thing anyhow. Look, guys, i just

992
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: want to say, as expected, this was super fun. I'm

993
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: very excited for your new this next chapter of your careers.

994
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a lot of challenges ahead, a

995
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: lot of new frontiers to chart and uh and I'm

996
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: excited to watch it unfold. Thank you. And I just

997
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: want to say I'm not going to pay the Patreon,

998
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: but I support you guys like you know, in spirit,

999
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: like I feel, I want you to succeed. I believe

1000
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: you can succeed. And I'll be watching and also regularly

1001
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: inviting you back to check in on the progress. Thank

1002
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: you so much us coming from you that means a lot.

1003
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

1004
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Josh. That feels so good.

1005
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well. Those guys are great. I love I love,

1006
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: I love those two. They're the future, in my opinion,

1007
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: the future of podcasting as we know it, the future

1008
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: of hard right, hard right wing podcasts, and I'm excited

1009
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: excited to see how it all unfolds. Well. That us

1010
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: our show for this week. We'll be back next week

1011
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: with more what future, and as always, I wish you

1012
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: and your family the very very best.