WEBVTT - ROSALÍA

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah good.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's double it. Make sure you support the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now wiggle around to keep your whole body loose and relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. That's my favorite. I knew you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that, But what I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>is is there a reason for it or does it

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<v Speaker 1>just feel good when you sing it? It felt great,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because it really helps me to place my

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<v Speaker 1>boys in the right place. And then every time were

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<v Speaker 1>changing the consonant, And the reason I have you keep

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<v Speaker 1>changing the consonants when we're practicing is so that you

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<v Speaker 1>get used to singing them easily in any range, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be able to pronounce them on higher notes,

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<v Speaker 1>lower notes and sound good when you do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't tense up or tighten up, because some words

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<v Speaker 1>are harder to enunciate when you're singing high. That's me

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<v Speaker 1>with Rosalia, a Spanish singer, songwriter, and producer. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>star in both the Latin and American music scenes. This

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<v Speaker 1>is backstage passed with Eric Vitro and I'm Eric Vitro.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I love my job because I

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<v Speaker 1>get to coach some of the most talented and famous

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<v Speaker 1>singers working today. On this show, I'll talk to them

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<v Speaker 1>about their lives, their craft, and what it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>really make it big in the business. So, now tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a least favorite exercise, one that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, one that I don't like, or do you

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<v Speaker 1>just love all of them because they're also I love

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<v Speaker 1>all of them? Naa, there's one that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>very tricky for me that has like a big big jumps,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember the melo. I don't remember which

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<v Speaker 1>one was. What one that you were like like, way, way, way,

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<v Speaker 1>way way. Yes, those are hard. That's hard for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yes, because I got to place the boys

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<v Speaker 1>in a high place. Since the beginning. I always forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I always forgetting you like from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, you're got to place it in the front,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, yeah, right, right right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's good that I practice it, but because it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me, Yeah, that's one that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I do that exercise, because you really do

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<v Speaker 1>have to place it in a good placement. Yes, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do a smooth transition going from low

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<v Speaker 1>to high, and so it helps with your muscle memory

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<v Speaker 1>of that, right, you know. Yeah. Rosalia has collaborated with

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<v Speaker 1>artists such as Bad Bunny, Billie Eilis, Jay Belvin, and

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Scott. You might know her songs ConA t K

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<v Speaker 1>N Lamente or Piano n Tumira. Now she's a big star,

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<v Speaker 1>but that wasn't always the case. Do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>first song you ever saying When you were a little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>There was this song that I heard in the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was called Akuarella. This was like Hello Smario,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, no no no no no no no

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<v Speaker 1>no no, no no Nina something like that, I think was.

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<v Speaker 1>I sang it for the first time because my dad

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me to sing it in front of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like so shy, I didn't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like really like pushing, like come on,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, come on, sing it, sing it, sing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it, and then I remember that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the family it's been a year that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sew them that we didn't so I shot up. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I sang it and they started crying. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like nine years old or something like that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand what was going on in that moment. One

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<v Speaker 1>and later I was like, okay, like I can communicate

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<v Speaker 1>through music. Wow, So that's how it really started for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, because I was like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>shy at the same time, I was like I was

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<v Speaker 1>like having fun and laughing and screaming, like with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy. I was the type of kid. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's a shot. I had no idea. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>never guess that. It's not surprising. No, well, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I was like that, but when I felt like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was being observed. When I was too conscious about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't felt like doing it like singing. It used

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<v Speaker 1>to be something more like I did for fun than

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<v Speaker 1>something that I wanted them to see. I wasn't overthinking

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<v Speaker 1>it when I was a kid. I was just doing

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<v Speaker 1>it because I had fun with it. Right. Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so great. That's the best way, right, Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so when you don't think about it and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>in your head about it exactly. Yeah, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you say that. I think that you helped me to

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<v Speaker 1>not overthink. At the same time, you helped me to

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of details, technical details I would never

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<v Speaker 1>see by myself, because yeah, it's very hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>unless somebody sees from the outside and tell you in

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<v Speaker 1>points this and that. I think I could never do

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. And it's so helpful when somebody's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>did you realize this? Did you realize you can do

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<v Speaker 1>like that? And these things. I feel like it's been

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<v Speaker 1>very helpful since we started doing class. Oh good, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like that's my job as a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher to really listen and then being able to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that might sound really good, but this might

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<v Speaker 1>even sound better, or just to open your mind to

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<v Speaker 1>trying new things. Possibilities, possibilities. It's all about possibilities, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the more that we open our

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<v Speaker 1>mind to that, then all of a sudden, things that

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<v Speaker 1>we never even thought we'd try we're doing. Yes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that when we work together that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is your job, it's your career, it's important. But

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<v Speaker 1>I always do feel like we're having a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>We are having fun. Yeah, we're always laughing a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a joyous experience, and that's what's so great. I

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<v Speaker 1>think If people lose that, they don't do as well,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't sing as well, and their career doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>as well. There has to be a lightness. Yeah. When

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<v Speaker 1>you take it to serious, don't you think that your

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<v Speaker 1>body tends, Yeah, it's a disaster, usually much more than

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<v Speaker 1>when you're just having fun with it, and then everything

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<v Speaker 1>flows much more. I think that's one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important lessons anybody can learn, is not to overthink it

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<v Speaker 1>and not to take it too seriously. Yeah, and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that you always remind me these things, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to have somebody that reminds you to still

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<v Speaker 1>have fun, even if it becomes your job, still have

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<v Speaker 1>fun with it. Still remember why you started doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a moment that you can remember where you

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<v Speaker 1>knew this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a music artist. I'm gonna sing. Yes. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home with my sister and this woman

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<v Speaker 1>that she used to take care of both of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I was around eight nine years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember Alaska was sounding. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>sounding on the radio. Alaska used to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>very big singer in my country, and she still is

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing, amazing artist that I admire a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>Alaska she was like singing something very playful and I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. Now I was like kind of singing it

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<v Speaker 1>with her when she was like sounding on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that woman called Maribel. Maribel said, oh, ima artista.

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<v Speaker 1>She says only like, oh, she's feeling herself as an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>like as a singer or something like that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And since very young, like nine years old, wow, really young,

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<v Speaker 1>when I really really really committed, I decided it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a decision. I was like, I'm gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna perform. And I started singing on stage when

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<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen fifteen. At sixteen, I started like really working,

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<v Speaker 1>like doing shows and things like that, like going to

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<v Speaker 1>places to perform. Are there any artists, any singers when

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<v Speaker 1>you were young that really inspired you, that made you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do what they're doing. There was Camaronella Isla.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Flamenco singer, a gypsy singer from Spain

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<v Speaker 1>that I loved. I was like, oh my god, his boys.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a natural way to place his boys in

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<v Speaker 1>a magical way, like really good and it was very

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<v Speaker 1>intuitive the way he did it, and it really inspired me,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wish one day I can sound like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I later I realized, like, okay, my voice is completely

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<v Speaker 1>different than or you are a girl to start, But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, but I love this man so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved his music. I loved this Flamenco traditional music

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<v Speaker 1>from there, and I was I was like, really really

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<v Speaker 1>really inspired by this music and by his boys. So

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<v Speaker 1>I loved camaland la Isla. I loved Lola Flores. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a big, big artist from Spain. Now with Lola,

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<v Speaker 1>did you sing any of her songs or with his

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<v Speaker 1>either one of them? Come on? When I studied it,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was in college, and did you sing

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<v Speaker 1>some of his songs? Yes? Because it was he used

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<v Speaker 1>to sing a lot of traditional Flamenco music and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I studied in knowledge. For sure, He's a great influence, Kenny,

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<v Speaker 1>Can you sing a tiny bit of one of those songs? Mmmm?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about Lola. I can sing if you want

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<v Speaker 1>something about Lola. She was like singing this how to vertra,

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<v Speaker 1>how to verta simpa veratoja simprella, veritatoja, how tack the

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<v Speaker 1>bernama and come around just to sing run sobria ru

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<v Speaker 1>sobriairafelii sobodi ruboia to maky sierra cafeliceria. Wow. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear the influence both of them on your

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<v Speaker 1>your voice, the Frisian melodies verything. Yeah, exactly. Well that

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<v Speaker 1>was great training for you because you have the technique

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to sing fast runs accurately. But also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very invested in the story, yes, and also it

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<v Speaker 1>really inspired me to write my songs nowadays. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't studied this music for so long, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I could write the music that I write today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and with him, I feel like you probably got some

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<v Speaker 1>of that strength that you sing with such a solid,

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<v Speaker 1>strong sound, and with her that flow, that beautiful flow,

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<v Speaker 1>with some of that vibrato. And I think that she

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<v Speaker 1>had like a quick, fast vibrato, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>come out on had like more slower vibrato. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>they had different style for sure, for sure. Right. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you're able to do both, because you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to both and sang along, and that's why you're so

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<v Speaker 1>adept at doing both the faster and the slower, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I say to you, let's do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we do those exercises with vibrato without vibrato, slow

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<v Speaker 1>it down, you're always able to do it. Not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. Do you think that it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>people can do like fast by brato if that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>not rough for them, or they can do just slow

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<v Speaker 1>by brato, or they can practice both and everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>do both. What do you think? Well, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody can do both. I think that everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>the potential, but they just have to work at it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get it very quickly, and some people it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit longer, but they have to really practice it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then some people they just never get it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the way I look at it is some

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<v Speaker 1>people I think maybe they're not supposed to, Maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to sing just how it is, because that's who

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<v Speaker 1>they are and makes them who they are. We know

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<v Speaker 1>their voice when we hear it, and so I always

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<v Speaker 1>try to, you know, have everyone try everything like an adventure,

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<v Speaker 1>mind the goal, see what's there, but also always keeping

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<v Speaker 1>in mind what makes you special or what makes you unique,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's important too. You want to sound like yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we do it, I don't worry about you

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<v Speaker 1>not sounding like yourself because I know you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>sound like yourself. It'll just speed with a faster story

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<v Speaker 1>if I brought it, but it's still going to sound

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<v Speaker 1>like Rosalia because your tone and everything else is so distinctive.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks, you know so, I just never want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to lose that, because I think that's so important, the

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<v Speaker 1>personality in the voice, right, everything right, right, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was studying Flamenco, like this traditional style, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many stories that I never experienced in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like it was very beautiful to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to channel those stories on stage, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that that's the challenge with this music.

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<v Speaker 1>Aside of the technical, Flamenco is super technical, is very complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a beautiful way. The melodies are like complex,

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<v Speaker 1>like the rhythms, there's a lot of different things. But

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<v Speaker 1>then for me, like the most beautiful thing about it

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<v Speaker 1>is the expression, the stories and everything behind it. I'm very,

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<v Speaker 1>very very grateful that I could spend these years of

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<v Speaker 1>just studying for so long, at least ten years studying

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<v Speaker 1>this music. Don't move a muscle. I'll be right back

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<v Speaker 1>with backstage pass and my guest Rosalia. I'm Eric Vitro,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm back with my guests Rosalia. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't surprise me you talk about doing these things so young,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that people who do become great and

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<v Speaker 1>have longevity are the people that, well, they were first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, lucky enough to know something they really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do when they were really young. That's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a total blessing. But then to also have that work

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<v Speaker 1>ethic to really keep working towards it. Yes, And but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I was one of those lucky people

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<v Speaker 1>who knew when I was very young what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Because what I'm doing now is what I've

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<v Speaker 1>done my whole life, you know, which is amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>you still do with so much passion. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. Well, I think when you really work at

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<v Speaker 1>getting better at something, if you feel like you are

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<v Speaker 1>continually getting better, I think it just makes it even

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<v Speaker 1>more exciting. So that's why I say I'm enjoying teaching

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<v Speaker 1>more now than I ever did. And I said that

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and I said that the year before. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's true I enjoy it more now because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm better at it now and that's exciting. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I think, well, maybe I could give them better

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I could do even more. Yeah, hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course music keeps evolving, so that makes it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, it's not the same, yes, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that for example, for me, my family was very supportive,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody around was a musician, nobody was connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the industry, and it was really hard to like figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to become a musician for me. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like it wasn't as I was telling you before,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like I had like a great voice

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. There's kids that they will naturally

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<v Speaker 1>they seem amazing, they have these big voices since they're kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and me it wasn't like that. So I really had

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<v Speaker 1>to like spend this time this years years, years and

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<v Speaker 1>years and have a lot of patient and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like being humble, you know, like, really, Okay, failing

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't sound right yet, Okay, if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep trying, I'm gonna keep doing it till it sounds right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that sometimes it's more about that being persistent,

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<v Speaker 1>being consistent too, like being there, like committed than anything else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're absolutely right. I'm so glad you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that because I think for people listening, they can apply

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<v Speaker 1>it to anything they're doing. I think sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of forget how hard it was to get here,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for me, I could forget for a second

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<v Speaker 1>how hard I had to work, how important it was

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<v Speaker 1>for me to get to this point where I can

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<v Speaker 1>work and do the work that I love the most.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always feel like being grateful and feeling happy,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling joyful about it. That's important for me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best mindset for me. I totally agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I really got to know Rosalie quite well during

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<v Speaker 1>that first period because for months we would do lessons

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<v Speaker 1>five to six days a week. Yeah, almost every day.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a lot of lessons, and I was so

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<v Speaker 1>impressed with your work ethic. I wanted to ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>is that just naturally who you are? Like you're just

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<v Speaker 1>someone who throws themselves one hundred percent in I think so, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes completely, Because I'm a perfectionist, so I always liked

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<v Speaker 1>try to push myself to learn as much as possible

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<v Speaker 1>and to try to get the best result in my work,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. It was like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>new things that you were teaching me, and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all very new, even if I was studying

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<v Speaker 1>for so long a voice lessons and everything. With you,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, there's so many new things and I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to learn these and understand it. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to really, really really push. I commit. I think no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what you choose, what you do, you gotta commit.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that's how I approach it. Rosalia has told

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<v Speaker 1>me that her discipline to her career was influenced by

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<v Speaker 1>her mom, and that doesn't surprise me at all. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been observing people for years and I've seen the artists

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<v Speaker 1>who have great work ethics quite often learn them from

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<v Speaker 1>the people who raised them. She's a very strong woman

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of her work ethic is amazing, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>She's such a hard working person, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>she always had great advices. She always advised me, and

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<v Speaker 1>she always have a perspective about things that I'm always like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me see what my mom thinks. Always always, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that nowadays, like it's very important for me,

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<v Speaker 1>my family the Latin Grammys in Las Vegas. It was

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago and my grandpa just passed, like he

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<v Speaker 1>just died, like the day before. I had to perform,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was very far from home, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like singing, but still I sang and

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, and that was I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest performances I had to do. My mind wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>there and my heart wasn't there, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other moments, I'm always very happy, very very excited,

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful to be able to perform. And he would

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<v Speaker 1>have wanted you to, I'm sure, I hope so. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about him when I was singing. Wow, for sure. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet he felt that wherever he is. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that because parents, grandparents, anybody who leaves us, they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to keep going and shine and do your best.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want you to stop your life. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he protects me somehow. Oh yeah, he protects me. Yeah. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>But that now, that performance in Vegas, did you feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about that you were able to do it and

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<v Speaker 1>do a good job? I think so, yes, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was really hard, and I think at some

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<v Speaker 1>point m I had to sing it. Maybe that sadness

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<v Speaker 1>I could kind of channel it by singing, right. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I really feel very excited to perform. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the times. I think my heart always goes faster, like

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<v Speaker 1>my heart always races, always, always, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's because I care. I'd have to say my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>time seeing Rosalia perform was that the twenty twenty Grammys.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how proud I am when I watched Rosalia

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<v Speaker 1>perform or make her music, I have to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always excited to start our vocal lessons again. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>missing me now that we're not doing it so much

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm in the studio trying to finish this record.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's almost there, so I had to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on production. But eddic, I'm coming back. Oh good. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it about doing that? Is it just that it's

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<v Speaker 1>so created that you love it? Or is it because

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like I know what I want better than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else can create for me? What is it that

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you get so immersed in it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like for me it's so important how my

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<v Speaker 1>music sound, how the songs sound, and it's so personal

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<v Speaker 1>too that I feel like there's no way that I

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<v Speaker 1>can just let somebody else do it. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, I feel like my album just what

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna last when I'm not here anymore. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what it's going to be here. I really care about songs,

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<v Speaker 1>every song to try to make it the best way possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish maybe I didn't care as much, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I know that caring so much makes

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. I think in the way things sound, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just who I am, Like I cannot change it.

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<v Speaker 1>It really represents you, represents your point of view, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can really be like proud of it. I really

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<v Speaker 1>try to do it the best I can. I really

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<v Speaker 1>try to practice as much as I can. I care

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<v Speaker 1>for the details on everything, not just when I'm singing.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that in everything, in the light, the stage design,

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<v Speaker 1>the clothes that I'm wearing, the colors, the nails I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the nails, of course, everything, everything, everything, And

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy do anything like that, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a work ethic. And I feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>one day I don't care like that as much as

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I don't think that the result would be

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<v Speaker 1>as good. So I don't feel it's a bad thing

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<v Speaker 1>to be perfectionist. That makes sense. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very grateful that you help me to be like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be a perfectionist while you are practicing, but

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<v Speaker 1>once you go on stage, forget it. Forget it and

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<v Speaker 1>just perform, because that's how I used to do it

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, when I was a kid, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager. But then sometimes you can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forget it for a second when you get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on technical things. And it's great that somebody reminds

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<v Speaker 1>you speaking of technical things. After the break, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the vocal tips of the week, influenced by Rosalia

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<v Speaker 1>herself right after this. Here they are my vocal tips

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. First, I've had really good results having

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<v Speaker 1>my students always do at least one forward placement exercise

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<v Speaker 1>lesson one where I actually encourage them to allow themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to sound nasal. Now, I always say to them, don't panic,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to turn you into a nasal sounding singer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one of the many exercises that will help

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<v Speaker 1>you warm up your voice in a healthy way and

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<v Speaker 1>also help you to increase your range. Basically, What I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to do is to focus the sound and

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<v Speaker 1>the vibrations of your voice in the front part of

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<v Speaker 1>your face, which is referred to as the mask. That

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<v Speaker 1>area is starting right around your forehead all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to about the bottom of your nose. You heard Rosalia,

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<v Speaker 1>it's her favorite exercise. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah yeah. Now it's your turn to try. Bases.

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<v Speaker 1>Baritones and tenors. Start on the sea below middle sea

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Repeat that pattern, transposing it in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>changing keys down by half steps ntil you reach your

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<v Speaker 1>lowest note, and then going right back up until you

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<v Speaker 1>reach your highest note. Sopranos and elto's, you start on

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<v Speaker 1>an A below middle C like this. Again, repeat that pattern,

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<v Speaker 1>transposing it down, changing keys by half steps until you

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<v Speaker 1>reach your lowest note, and then going right back up,

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<v Speaker 1>changing keys by half steps until you reach your highest note.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an example. Try not to move your

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<v Speaker 1>jaw when you're pronouncing that na na na, Just move

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<v Speaker 1>your tongue. By practicing, moving your tongue without moving your

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<v Speaker 1>jaw will not only free up your voice, but it

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<v Speaker 1>will make it so much easier for you to pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics on high notes. When you're doing songs. Another exercise

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<v Speaker 1>I always try to fit in every lesson is one

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<v Speaker 1>that will prep you to sing your runs and rifts better,

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<v Speaker 1>one that will make your vocal cords more flexible and limber,

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<v Speaker 1>and also really help you to level up your skills

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<v Speaker 1>with better agility. Try starting out with half steps like this.

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<v Speaker 1>If it feels hard for you to stand pitch on

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<v Speaker 1>this exercise because it is tricky, start really slow, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sing every note cleanly, and then gradually build up speed.

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<v Speaker 1>A really great way to teach you to sing these

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<v Speaker 1>half steps would be to play them on the piano

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<v Speaker 1>as you sing them. Even if you don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to play the piano, anyone could play half steps because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just one note after another. You might not have

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<v Speaker 1>a piano or a keyboard at home, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>always download a piano keyboard app onto your phone or tablet.

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<v Speaker 1>A good middle range for sopranos and altos would be

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<v Speaker 1>to start here on a middle C. For you bases,

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<v Speaker 1>baritones and tenors start here one act of lower than

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<v Speaker 1>middle c as always experiment and see how high and

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<v Speaker 1>how low you can go, but of course without straining.

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<v Speaker 1>It should always feel comfortable. If you want to try

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<v Speaker 1>out the vocal tips from this episode, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear you. Use the hashtag Backstage passpod on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you like to post. I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>hear you. After the credits, you'll hear more of my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Rosalia Maybe maybe maybe may. Backstage Pass with

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Vitro is written and hosted by me Eric Vitro

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<v Speaker 1>and produced by Morgan Jaffee. Katherine Girardeau is our showrunner.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Rosstek is our associate producer, mixed and mastered by

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Tolliday. Additional engineering help is from Jacob Gorski. Mia

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<v Speaker 1>Lobell is our executive producer. Our development team, Letal Mullad

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<v Speaker 1>and Justine Lange helped create the show, thanks also to

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Weisberg, Heather Fame, John Schnars, Carlie Migliori, Christina Sullivan,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor, Nicolparando, Daniella Lucan, and Royston Baserve.

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<v Speaker 1>Original theme music is by Jacob and Cita Steele for

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<v Speaker 1>Premier Music Group. We record it Resonate Studios. Fred Talkson

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<v Speaker 1>does our videography and the photography is by Ken Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>A very special thanks to Michael Lewis for his inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>and the best guidance anyone could ask for. Backstage Passed

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<v Speaker 1>with Eric Vitro is the production of Pushkin Into And

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. I was out recently. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go pick up something, and I went into the store

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<v Speaker 1>to pick it up, and your song with Bad Bunny

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<v Speaker 1>was playing. This girl who was I was waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>help me, was doing something for someone else, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I looked over and she was singing along,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw her lips going with it, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of smiling, and I thought, Wow, I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the joy that an artist's music brings to people. She

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<v Speaker 1>was probably enjoying her day so much more getting to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your songs. It was making her day go by

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<v Speaker 1>faster than when she came over to help me. She

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<v Speaker 1>was all smiles, really friendly, and I thought, Wow, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really beautiful to see that, not just in a life setting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the recording, it's in the videos, it's where

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<v Speaker 1>ever anyone's listening. Yeah, how powerful is that? Right? For me,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes my day is listening music. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so happy when you tell me that, because then that

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<v Speaker 1>happens the same thing that happens to me that I

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<v Speaker 1>listened so much music, it can happen to other people

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<v Speaker 1>with the music I do, and I feel so grateful,

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<v Speaker 1>you know,