1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:24,356 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah good. 2 00:00:24,476 --> 00:00:26,956 Speaker 1: Let's double it. Make sure you support the whole time. 3 00:00:28,996 --> 00:00:33,716 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. 4 00:00:33,756 --> 00:00:36,956 Speaker 1: Now wiggle around to keep your whole body loose and relaxed. 5 00:00:37,596 --> 00:00:41,716 Speaker 1: I love that. That's my favorite. I knew you were 6 00:00:41,716 --> 00:00:43,196 Speaker 1: going to say that, But what I want to know 7 00:00:43,396 --> 00:00:45,476 Speaker 1: is is there a reason for it or does it 8 00:00:45,516 --> 00:00:48,436 Speaker 1: just feel good when you sing it? It felt great, 9 00:00:48,476 --> 00:00:51,036 Speaker 1: I think because it really helps me to place my 10 00:00:51,196 --> 00:00:55,036 Speaker 1: boys in the right place. And then every time were 11 00:00:55,156 --> 00:00:58,956 Speaker 1: changing the consonant, And the reason I have you keep 12 00:00:59,036 --> 00:01:01,916 Speaker 1: changing the consonants when we're practicing is so that you 13 00:01:01,956 --> 00:01:05,236 Speaker 1: get used to singing them easily in any range, right yeah, 14 00:01:05,276 --> 00:01:07,516 Speaker 1: and you'll be able to pronounce them on higher notes, 15 00:01:07,636 --> 00:01:11,036 Speaker 1: lower notes and sound good when you do it. So 16 00:01:11,076 --> 00:01:13,116 Speaker 1: you don't tense up or tighten up, because some words 17 00:01:13,116 --> 00:01:18,276 Speaker 1: are harder to enunciate when you're singing high. That's me 18 00:01:18,436 --> 00:01:23,116 Speaker 1: with Rosalia, a Spanish singer, songwriter, and producer. She's a 19 00:01:23,156 --> 00:01:27,916 Speaker 1: star in both the Latin and American music scenes. This 20 00:01:28,076 --> 00:01:31,276 Speaker 1: is backstage passed with Eric Vitro and I'm Eric Vitro. 21 00:01:31,836 --> 00:01:34,236 Speaker 1: I have to say I love my job because I 22 00:01:34,276 --> 00:01:36,396 Speaker 1: get to coach some of the most talented and famous 23 00:01:36,396 --> 00:01:39,236 Speaker 1: singers working today. On this show, I'll talk to them 24 00:01:39,236 --> 00:01:41,756 Speaker 1: about their lives, their craft, and what it takes to 25 00:01:41,796 --> 00:01:46,236 Speaker 1: really make it big in the business. So, now tell me, 26 00:01:46,316 --> 00:01:49,356 Speaker 1: do you have a least favorite exercise, one that you 27 00:01:49,396 --> 00:01:52,796 Speaker 1: don't like, one that I don't like, or do you 28 00:01:52,956 --> 00:01:55,796 Speaker 1: just love all of them because they're also I love 29 00:01:55,876 --> 00:01:59,356 Speaker 1: all of them? Naa, there's one that I think is 30 00:01:59,476 --> 00:02:02,796 Speaker 1: very tricky for me that has like a big big jumps, 31 00:02:02,836 --> 00:02:05,796 Speaker 1: but I don't remember the melo. I don't remember which 32 00:02:05,796 --> 00:02:09,116 Speaker 1: one was. What one that you were like like, way, way, way, 33 00:02:09,236 --> 00:02:12,756 Speaker 1: way way. Yes, those are hard. That's hard for me, 34 00:02:13,116 --> 00:02:15,356 Speaker 1: I think, yes, because I got to place the boys 35 00:02:15,796 --> 00:02:18,836 Speaker 1: in a high place. Since the beginning. I always forget that. 36 00:02:18,956 --> 00:02:22,996 Speaker 1: I don't know why I always forgetting you like from 37 00:02:22,996 --> 00:02:24,716 Speaker 1: the beginning, you're got to place it in the front, 38 00:02:24,756 --> 00:02:27,236 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, yeah, right, right right, So I 39 00:02:27,236 --> 00:02:29,396 Speaker 1: think it's good that I practice it, but because it's 40 00:02:29,476 --> 00:02:32,036 Speaker 1: hard for me, Yeah, that's one that I don't know. 41 00:02:32,156 --> 00:02:34,556 Speaker 1: That's why I do that exercise, because you really do 42 00:02:34,676 --> 00:02:36,796 Speaker 1: have to place it in a good placement. Yes, if 43 00:02:36,796 --> 00:02:38,956 Speaker 1: you want to do a smooth transition going from low 44 00:02:38,996 --> 00:02:42,436 Speaker 1: to high, and so it helps with your muscle memory 45 00:02:42,436 --> 00:02:46,956 Speaker 1: of that, right, you know. Yeah. Rosalia has collaborated with 46 00:02:47,076 --> 00:02:50,156 Speaker 1: artists such as Bad Bunny, Billie Eilis, Jay Belvin, and 47 00:02:50,236 --> 00:02:54,036 Speaker 1: Travis Scott. You might know her songs ConA t K 48 00:02:54,316 --> 00:03:14,556 Speaker 1: N Lamente or Piano n Tumira. Now she's a big star, 49 00:03:14,716 --> 00:03:17,836 Speaker 1: but that wasn't always the case. Do you remember the 50 00:03:17,916 --> 00:03:20,556 Speaker 1: first song you ever saying When you were a little girl, 51 00:03:21,156 --> 00:03:24,516 Speaker 1: There was this song that I heard in the TV. 52 00:03:25,556 --> 00:03:32,476 Speaker 1: I think it was called Akuarella. This was like Hello Smario, 53 00:03:33,116 --> 00:03:36,236 Speaker 1: something like that, no no no no no no no 54 00:03:36,236 --> 00:03:39,716 Speaker 1: no no, no no Nina something like that, I think was. 55 00:03:39,916 --> 00:03:42,836 Speaker 1: I sang it for the first time because my dad 56 00:03:42,876 --> 00:03:45,076 Speaker 1: he asked me to sing it in front of the family, 57 00:03:45,276 --> 00:03:47,036 Speaker 1: and I was like so shy, I didn't want to, 58 00:03:47,196 --> 00:03:49,156 Speaker 1: and he was like really like pushing, like come on, 59 00:03:49,196 --> 00:03:50,676 Speaker 1: come on, come on, sing it, sing it, sing it. 60 00:03:51,316 --> 00:03:54,276 Speaker 1: And I did it, and then I remember that everybody 61 00:03:54,356 --> 00:03:57,116 Speaker 1: in the family it's been a year that I didn't 62 00:03:57,156 --> 00:04:00,356 Speaker 1: sew them that we didn't so I shot up. But 63 00:04:00,396 --> 00:04:03,436 Speaker 1: then I sang it and they started crying. I was 64 00:04:03,476 --> 00:04:05,516 Speaker 1: like nine years old or something like that, and I 65 00:04:05,516 --> 00:04:08,196 Speaker 1: didn't understand what was going on in that moment. One 66 00:04:09,156 --> 00:04:13,076 Speaker 1: and later I was like, okay, like I can communicate 67 00:04:13,876 --> 00:04:18,676 Speaker 1: through music. Wow, So that's how it really started for you. Yeah, 68 00:04:18,716 --> 00:04:21,116 Speaker 1: I think so, because I was like a little bit 69 00:04:21,156 --> 00:04:23,356 Speaker 1: shy at the same time, I was like I was 70 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:27,236 Speaker 1: like having fun and laughing and screaming, like with a 71 00:04:27,276 --> 00:04:31,956 Speaker 1: lot of energy. I was the type of kid. Oh 72 00:04:31,996 --> 00:04:36,236 Speaker 1: that's a shot. I had no idea. I would have 73 00:04:36,316 --> 00:04:43,356 Speaker 1: never guess that. It's not surprising. No, well, I was 74 00:04:43,436 --> 00:04:46,956 Speaker 1: like that. I was like that, but when I felt like, oh, 75 00:04:46,956 --> 00:04:50,036 Speaker 1: I was being observed. When I was too conscious about it, 76 00:04:50,076 --> 00:04:52,996 Speaker 1: I didn't felt like doing it like singing. It used 77 00:04:53,036 --> 00:04:55,716 Speaker 1: to be something more like I did for fun than 78 00:04:55,876 --> 00:05:00,076 Speaker 1: something that I wanted them to see. I wasn't overthinking 79 00:05:00,076 --> 00:05:01,356 Speaker 1: it when I was a kid. I was just doing 80 00:05:01,356 --> 00:05:03,716 Speaker 1: it because I had fun with it. Right. Oh, that's 81 00:05:03,756 --> 00:05:05,996 Speaker 1: so great. That's the best way, right, Yeah. I think 82 00:05:06,076 --> 00:05:07,756 Speaker 1: so when you don't think about it and you're not 83 00:05:07,836 --> 00:05:10,676 Speaker 1: in your head about it exactly. Yeah, I know that 84 00:05:10,716 --> 00:05:13,076 Speaker 1: you say that. I think that you helped me to 85 00:05:13,756 --> 00:05:17,956 Speaker 1: not overthink. At the same time, you helped me to 86 00:05:18,036 --> 00:05:20,956 Speaker 1: see a lot of details, technical details I would never 87 00:05:20,996 --> 00:05:24,116 Speaker 1: see by myself, because yeah, it's very hard to see 88 00:05:24,516 --> 00:05:27,396 Speaker 1: unless somebody sees from the outside and tell you in 89 00:05:27,436 --> 00:05:29,796 Speaker 1: points this and that. I think I could never do 90 00:05:29,836 --> 00:05:32,996 Speaker 1: for myself. And it's so helpful when somebody's like, hey, 91 00:05:32,996 --> 00:05:35,036 Speaker 1: did you realize this? Did you realize you can do 92 00:05:35,156 --> 00:05:38,236 Speaker 1: like that? And these things. I feel like it's been 93 00:05:38,316 --> 00:05:42,476 Speaker 1: very helpful since we started doing class. Oh good, well, 94 00:05:42,516 --> 00:05:45,276 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like that's my job as a 95 00:05:45,356 --> 00:05:49,716 Speaker 1: teacher to really listen and then being able to say, hey, 96 00:05:49,756 --> 00:05:53,356 Speaker 1: you know, that might sound really good, but this might 97 00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:56,756 Speaker 1: even sound better, or just to open your mind to 98 00:05:56,916 --> 00:06:02,836 Speaker 1: trying new things. Possibilities, possibilities. It's all about possibilities, right, yeah, yeah, 99 00:06:02,876 --> 00:06:06,236 Speaker 1: And I feel like the more that we open our 100 00:06:06,276 --> 00:06:09,316 Speaker 1: mind to that, then all of a sudden, things that 101 00:06:09,316 --> 00:06:12,716 Speaker 1: we never even thought we'd try we're doing. Yes, Yes, 102 00:06:12,876 --> 00:06:15,196 Speaker 1: I feel like that when we work together that Yeah, 103 00:06:15,236 --> 00:06:18,836 Speaker 1: it is your job, it's your career, it's important. But 104 00:06:18,916 --> 00:06:21,476 Speaker 1: I always do feel like we're having a good time. 105 00:06:21,596 --> 00:06:24,916 Speaker 1: We are having fun. Yeah, we're always laughing a lot. 106 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:29,236 Speaker 1: It's a joyous experience, and that's what's so great. I 107 00:06:29,276 --> 00:06:32,316 Speaker 1: think If people lose that, they don't do as well, 108 00:06:32,396 --> 00:06:34,116 Speaker 1: they don't sing as well, and their career doesn't do 109 00:06:34,156 --> 00:06:37,276 Speaker 1: as well. There has to be a lightness. Yeah. When 110 00:06:37,276 --> 00:06:39,036 Speaker 1: you take it to serious, don't you think that your 111 00:06:39,076 --> 00:06:42,076 Speaker 1: body tends, Yeah, it's a disaster, usually much more than 112 00:06:42,116 --> 00:06:45,236 Speaker 1: when you're just having fun with it, and then everything 113 00:06:45,316 --> 00:06:48,036 Speaker 1: flows much more. I think that's one of the most 114 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:52,036 Speaker 1: important lessons anybody can learn, is not to overthink it 115 00:06:52,116 --> 00:06:54,716 Speaker 1: and not to take it too seriously. Yeah, and nothing 116 00:06:54,796 --> 00:06:57,396 Speaker 1: that you always remind me these things, and I think 117 00:06:57,396 --> 00:07:00,956 Speaker 1: it's great to have somebody that reminds you to still 118 00:07:01,156 --> 00:07:03,956 Speaker 1: have fun, even if it becomes your job, still have 119 00:07:04,116 --> 00:07:07,876 Speaker 1: fun with it. Still remember why you started doing it. 120 00:07:07,956 --> 00:07:11,356 Speaker 1: Is there a moment that you can remember where you 121 00:07:11,476 --> 00:07:13,796 Speaker 1: knew this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to 122 00:07:13,876 --> 00:07:17,356 Speaker 1: be a music artist. I'm gonna sing. Yes. I remember 123 00:07:17,396 --> 00:07:21,036 Speaker 1: I was at home with my sister and this woman 124 00:07:21,156 --> 00:07:24,276 Speaker 1: that she used to take care of both of us, 125 00:07:24,436 --> 00:07:26,716 Speaker 1: and I think I was around eight nine years old, 126 00:07:26,796 --> 00:07:30,076 Speaker 1: and I remember Alaska was sounding. I think it was 127 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:38,876 Speaker 1: sounding on the radio. Alaska used to be like a 128 00:07:39,036 --> 00:07:43,236 Speaker 1: very big singer in my country, and she still is 129 00:07:43,356 --> 00:07:46,196 Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing artist that I admire a lot. And 130 00:07:46,836 --> 00:07:49,956 Speaker 1: Alaska she was like singing something very playful and I 131 00:07:49,996 --> 00:07:52,676 Speaker 1: loved it. Now I was like kind of singing it 132 00:07:52,836 --> 00:07:55,796 Speaker 1: with her when she was like sounding on the radio. 133 00:07:56,196 --> 00:08:01,236 Speaker 1: And then that woman called Maribel. Maribel said, oh, ima artista. 134 00:08:01,476 --> 00:08:04,716 Speaker 1: She says only like, oh, she's feeling herself as an artist, 135 00:08:04,756 --> 00:08:06,876 Speaker 1: like as a singer or something like that. And then 136 00:08:06,876 --> 00:08:09,156 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna do it. 137 00:08:09,876 --> 00:08:13,996 Speaker 1: And since very young, like nine years old, wow, really young, 138 00:08:14,156 --> 00:08:17,636 Speaker 1: when I really really really committed, I decided it. It 139 00:08:17,716 --> 00:08:20,156 Speaker 1: was like a decision. I was like, I'm gonna do this. 140 00:08:20,356 --> 00:08:25,756 Speaker 1: I'm gonna perform. And I started singing on stage when 141 00:08:25,756 --> 00:08:30,196 Speaker 1: I was fourteen fifteen. At sixteen, I started like really working, 142 00:08:30,316 --> 00:08:33,196 Speaker 1: like doing shows and things like that, like going to 143 00:08:33,276 --> 00:08:37,156 Speaker 1: places to perform. Are there any artists, any singers when 144 00:08:37,156 --> 00:08:40,916 Speaker 1: you were young that really inspired you, that made you go, oh, 145 00:08:40,956 --> 00:08:44,956 Speaker 1: I want to do what they're doing. There was Camaronella Isla. 146 00:08:45,556 --> 00:08:49,596 Speaker 1: It was a Flamenco singer, a gypsy singer from Spain 147 00:08:49,756 --> 00:08:53,956 Speaker 1: that I loved. I was like, oh my god, his boys. 148 00:08:54,196 --> 00:08:57,676 Speaker 1: He had a natural way to place his boys in 149 00:08:57,716 --> 00:09:11,556 Speaker 1: a magical way, like really good and it was very 150 00:09:11,596 --> 00:09:15,036 Speaker 1: intuitive the way he did it, and it really inspired me, 151 00:09:15,316 --> 00:09:17,316 Speaker 1: like I wish one day I can sound like that. 152 00:09:17,396 --> 00:09:19,516 Speaker 1: I later I realized, like, okay, my voice is completely 153 00:09:19,516 --> 00:09:29,716 Speaker 1: different than or you are a girl to start, But 154 00:09:30,356 --> 00:09:33,316 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but I love this man so much. 155 00:09:33,316 --> 00:09:37,516 Speaker 1: I loved his music. I loved this Flamenco traditional music 156 00:09:37,676 --> 00:09:40,396 Speaker 1: from there, and I was I was like, really really 157 00:09:40,396 --> 00:09:44,316 Speaker 1: really inspired by this music and by his boys. So 158 00:09:44,396 --> 00:09:47,996 Speaker 1: I loved camaland la Isla. I loved Lola Flores. She 159 00:09:48,156 --> 00:09:51,356 Speaker 1: was a big, big artist from Spain. Now with Lola, 160 00:09:51,476 --> 00:09:54,756 Speaker 1: did you sing any of her songs or with his 161 00:09:55,076 --> 00:09:59,076 Speaker 1: either one of them? Come on? When I studied it, 162 00:09:59,156 --> 00:10:01,356 Speaker 1: like when I was in college, and did you sing 163 00:10:01,436 --> 00:10:04,756 Speaker 1: some of his songs? Yes? Because it was he used 164 00:10:04,796 --> 00:10:08,036 Speaker 1: to sing a lot of traditional Flamenco music and that's 165 00:10:08,036 --> 00:10:11,716 Speaker 1: what I studied in knowledge. For sure, He's a great influence, Kenny, 166 00:10:11,796 --> 00:10:14,556 Speaker 1: Can you sing a tiny bit of one of those songs? Mmmm? 167 00:10:17,996 --> 00:10:21,116 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Lola. I can sing if you want 168 00:10:21,276 --> 00:10:25,756 Speaker 1: something about Lola. She was like singing this how to vertra, 169 00:10:27,316 --> 00:10:36,356 Speaker 1: how to verta simpa veratoja simprella, veritatoja, how tack the 170 00:10:36,556 --> 00:10:43,036 Speaker 1: bernama and come around just to sing run sobria ru 171 00:10:43,236 --> 00:10:56,716 Speaker 1: sobriairafelii sobodi ruboia to maky sierra cafeliceria. Wow. You know 172 00:10:56,916 --> 00:10:59,956 Speaker 1: I can hear the influence both of them on your 173 00:11:00,156 --> 00:11:05,276 Speaker 1: your voice, the Frisian melodies verything. Yeah, exactly. Well that 174 00:11:05,476 --> 00:11:10,036 Speaker 1: was great training for you because you have the technique 175 00:11:10,076 --> 00:11:14,676 Speaker 1: to be able to sing fast runs accurately. But also, yeah, 176 00:11:14,796 --> 00:11:17,516 Speaker 1: you're very invested in the story, yes, and also it 177 00:11:17,756 --> 00:11:21,716 Speaker 1: really inspired me to write my songs nowadays. Like if 178 00:11:21,796 --> 00:11:24,836 Speaker 1: I haven't studied this music for so long, I don't 179 00:11:24,876 --> 00:11:29,116 Speaker 1: think I could write the music that I write today. Yeah, 180 00:11:29,276 --> 00:11:32,156 Speaker 1: and with him, I feel like you probably got some 181 00:11:32,316 --> 00:11:34,596 Speaker 1: of that strength that you sing with such a solid, 182 00:11:34,716 --> 00:11:39,076 Speaker 1: strong sound, and with her that flow, that beautiful flow, 183 00:11:39,196 --> 00:11:41,476 Speaker 1: with some of that vibrato. And I think that she 184 00:11:41,636 --> 00:11:44,436 Speaker 1: had like a quick, fast vibrato, and I think that 185 00:11:44,516 --> 00:11:47,316 Speaker 1: come out on had like more slower vibrato. Right, And 186 00:11:47,476 --> 00:11:50,196 Speaker 1: they had different style for sure, for sure. Right. But 187 00:11:50,356 --> 00:11:52,956 Speaker 1: that's why you're able to do both, because you listen 188 00:11:53,036 --> 00:11:55,516 Speaker 1: to both and sang along, and that's why you're so 189 00:11:55,796 --> 00:11:59,156 Speaker 1: adept at doing both the faster and the slower, because 190 00:11:59,196 --> 00:12:00,836 Speaker 1: when I say to you, let's do it, you know, 191 00:12:00,916 --> 00:12:05,196 Speaker 1: when we do those exercises with vibrato without vibrato, slow 192 00:12:05,276 --> 00:12:07,516 Speaker 1: it down, you're always able to do it. Not everybody 193 00:12:07,556 --> 00:12:10,036 Speaker 1: can do that. Do you think that it's not that 194 00:12:10,116 --> 00:12:13,076 Speaker 1: people can do like fast by brato if that's what's 195 00:12:13,116 --> 00:12:15,276 Speaker 1: not rough for them, or they can do just slow 196 00:12:15,316 --> 00:12:17,316 Speaker 1: by brato, or they can practice both and everybody can 197 00:12:17,356 --> 00:12:19,636 Speaker 1: do both. What do you think? Well, no, I don't 198 00:12:19,636 --> 00:12:22,476 Speaker 1: think everybody can do both. I think that everyone has 199 00:12:22,556 --> 00:12:25,796 Speaker 1: the potential, but they just have to work at it. Yeah, 200 00:12:26,196 --> 00:12:29,516 Speaker 1: you get it very quickly, and some people it takes 201 00:12:29,516 --> 00:12:31,716 Speaker 1: a little bit longer, but they have to really practice it. 202 00:12:31,996 --> 00:12:34,156 Speaker 1: And then some people they just never get it. But 203 00:12:34,676 --> 00:12:36,116 Speaker 1: you know, the way I look at it is some 204 00:12:36,236 --> 00:12:38,796 Speaker 1: people I think maybe they're not supposed to, Maybe they're 205 00:12:38,796 --> 00:12:41,236 Speaker 1: supposed to sing just how it is, because that's who 206 00:12:41,316 --> 00:12:44,116 Speaker 1: they are and makes them who they are. We know 207 00:12:44,276 --> 00:12:47,636 Speaker 1: their voice when we hear it, and so I always 208 00:12:47,676 --> 00:12:51,196 Speaker 1: try to, you know, have everyone try everything like an adventure, 209 00:12:51,756 --> 00:12:55,276 Speaker 1: mind the goal, see what's there, but also always keeping 210 00:12:55,356 --> 00:12:59,396 Speaker 1: in mind what makes you special or what makes you unique, 211 00:13:00,156 --> 00:13:02,636 Speaker 1: because that's important too. You want to sound like yourself, 212 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:05,196 Speaker 1: but when we do it, I don't worry about you 213 00:13:05,356 --> 00:13:07,916 Speaker 1: not sounding like yourself because I know you're going to 214 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:10,236 Speaker 1: sound like yourself. It'll just speed with a faster story 215 00:13:10,236 --> 00:13:11,556 Speaker 1: if I brought it, but it's still going to sound 216 00:13:11,596 --> 00:13:15,156 Speaker 1: like Rosalia because your tone and everything else is so distinctive. 217 00:13:15,516 --> 00:13:18,276 Speaker 1: Oh thanks, you know so, I just never want anyone 218 00:13:18,396 --> 00:13:21,036 Speaker 1: to lose that, because I think that's so important, the 219 00:13:21,236 --> 00:13:25,196 Speaker 1: personality in the voice, right, everything right, right, right right. 220 00:13:25,876 --> 00:13:29,676 Speaker 1: When I was studying Flamenco, like this traditional style, there's 221 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:32,916 Speaker 1: so many stories that I never experienced in my life. 222 00:13:33,596 --> 00:13:36,116 Speaker 1: I felt like it was very beautiful to be able 223 00:13:36,156 --> 00:13:40,476 Speaker 1: to channel those stories on stage, and I was like, wow, 224 00:13:40,556 --> 00:13:43,276 Speaker 1: I really think that that's the challenge with this music. 225 00:13:44,116 --> 00:13:49,036 Speaker 1: Aside of the technical, Flamenco is super technical, is very complicated, 226 00:13:49,196 --> 00:13:52,276 Speaker 1: but in a beautiful way. The melodies are like complex, 227 00:13:52,436 --> 00:13:55,356 Speaker 1: like the rhythms, there's a lot of different things. But 228 00:13:55,556 --> 00:13:57,876 Speaker 1: then for me, like the most beautiful thing about it 229 00:13:58,076 --> 00:14:02,796 Speaker 1: is the expression, the stories and everything behind it. I'm very, 230 00:14:02,876 --> 00:14:05,556 Speaker 1: very very grateful that I could spend these years of 231 00:14:05,676 --> 00:14:10,116 Speaker 1: just studying for so long, at least ten years studying 232 00:14:10,196 --> 00:14:14,316 Speaker 1: this music. Don't move a muscle. I'll be right back 233 00:14:14,356 --> 00:14:23,876 Speaker 1: with backstage pass and my guest Rosalia. I'm Eric Vitro, 234 00:14:23,996 --> 00:14:27,716 Speaker 1: and I'm back with my guests Rosalia. You know, it 235 00:14:27,836 --> 00:14:30,596 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me you talk about doing these things so young, 236 00:14:31,156 --> 00:14:34,596 Speaker 1: because I think that people who do become great and 237 00:14:35,156 --> 00:14:38,916 Speaker 1: have longevity are the people that, well, they were first 238 00:14:38,956 --> 00:14:41,796 Speaker 1: of all, lucky enough to know something they really wanted 239 00:14:41,836 --> 00:14:44,956 Speaker 1: to do when they were really young. That's yeah, it's 240 00:14:44,956 --> 00:14:48,076 Speaker 1: a total blessing. But then to also have that work 241 00:14:48,156 --> 00:14:51,636 Speaker 1: ethic to really keep working towards it. Yes, And but 242 00:14:51,756 --> 00:14:53,556 Speaker 1: I feel like I was one of those lucky people 243 00:14:53,596 --> 00:14:56,116 Speaker 1: who knew when I was very young what I wanted 244 00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:57,996 Speaker 1: to do. Because what I'm doing now is what I've 245 00:14:58,036 --> 00:15:00,556 Speaker 1: done my whole life, you know, which is amazing, and 246 00:15:00,636 --> 00:15:02,676 Speaker 1: you still do with so much passion. And I think 247 00:15:02,756 --> 00:15:06,676 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Well, I think when you really work at 248 00:15:06,716 --> 00:15:09,836 Speaker 1: getting better at something, if you feel like you are 249 00:15:10,956 --> 00:15:14,556 Speaker 1: continually getting better, I think it just makes it even 250 00:15:14,676 --> 00:15:17,996 Speaker 1: more exciting. So that's why I say I'm enjoying teaching 251 00:15:18,156 --> 00:15:20,356 Speaker 1: more now than I ever did. And I said that 252 00:15:20,516 --> 00:15:23,156 Speaker 1: last year, and I said that the year before. But 253 00:15:23,316 --> 00:15:25,756 Speaker 1: it's true I enjoy it more now because I feel 254 00:15:25,756 --> 00:15:28,436 Speaker 1: like I'm better at it now and that's exciting. And 255 00:15:28,516 --> 00:15:30,836 Speaker 1: then I think, well, maybe I could give them better 256 00:15:30,916 --> 00:15:34,436 Speaker 1: or maybe I could do even more. Yeah, hell yeah, 257 00:15:34,556 --> 00:15:37,956 Speaker 1: of course music keeps evolving, so that makes it interesting 258 00:15:38,036 --> 00:15:41,356 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, it's not the same, yes, And I 259 00:15:41,556 --> 00:15:45,716 Speaker 1: think that for example, for me, my family was very supportive, 260 00:15:45,916 --> 00:15:50,076 Speaker 1: but nobody around was a musician, nobody was connected to 261 00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:53,076 Speaker 1: the industry, and it was really hard to like figure 262 00:15:53,116 --> 00:15:56,236 Speaker 1: out how to become a musician for me. And it 263 00:15:56,396 --> 00:15:58,836 Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't as I was telling you before, 264 00:15:59,276 --> 00:16:01,516 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I had like a great voice 265 00:16:01,596 --> 00:16:03,636 Speaker 1: or something like that. There's kids that they will naturally 266 00:16:03,716 --> 00:16:07,916 Speaker 1: they seem amazing, they have these big voices since they're kids, 267 00:16:08,716 --> 00:16:11,596 Speaker 1: and me it wasn't like that. So I really had 268 00:16:11,636 --> 00:16:16,196 Speaker 1: to like spend this time this years years, years and 269 00:16:16,396 --> 00:16:19,236 Speaker 1: years and have a lot of patient and a lot 270 00:16:19,316 --> 00:16:22,436 Speaker 1: of like being humble, you know, like, really, Okay, failing 271 00:16:22,636 --> 00:16:25,156 Speaker 1: this doesn't sound right yet, Okay, if I'm going to 272 00:16:25,276 --> 00:16:27,956 Speaker 1: keep trying, I'm gonna keep doing it till it sounds right. 273 00:16:28,316 --> 00:16:31,916 Speaker 1: And I think that sometimes it's more about that being persistent, 274 00:16:32,116 --> 00:16:37,756 Speaker 1: being consistent too, like being there, like committed than anything else. Yeah, 275 00:16:37,956 --> 00:16:40,476 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. I'm so glad you're saying 276 00:16:40,476 --> 00:16:42,956 Speaker 1: that because I think for people listening, they can apply 277 00:16:43,076 --> 00:16:47,756 Speaker 1: it to anything they're doing. I think sometimes you can 278 00:16:47,876 --> 00:16:50,956 Speaker 1: kind of forget how hard it was to get here, 279 00:16:50,996 --> 00:16:53,076 Speaker 1: at least for me, I could forget for a second 280 00:16:53,396 --> 00:16:55,876 Speaker 1: how hard I had to work, how important it was 281 00:16:55,956 --> 00:16:57,396 Speaker 1: for me to get to this point where I can 282 00:16:57,676 --> 00:16:59,876 Speaker 1: work and do the work that I love the most. 283 00:17:00,476 --> 00:17:04,836 Speaker 1: So I always feel like being grateful and feeling happy, 284 00:17:05,276 --> 00:17:08,396 Speaker 1: feeling joyful about it. That's important for me. I think 285 00:17:08,436 --> 00:17:11,836 Speaker 1: that's the best mindset for me. I totally agree with that, 286 00:17:11,996 --> 00:17:14,356 Speaker 1: And I really got to know Rosalie quite well during 287 00:17:14,436 --> 00:17:17,476 Speaker 1: that first period because for months we would do lessons 288 00:17:17,596 --> 00:17:21,236 Speaker 1: five to six days a week. Yeah, almost every day. 289 00:17:23,116 --> 00:17:24,676 Speaker 1: We did a lot of lessons, and I was so 290 00:17:25,516 --> 00:17:28,116 Speaker 1: impressed with your work ethic. I wanted to ask you, 291 00:17:29,036 --> 00:17:31,916 Speaker 1: is that just naturally who you are? Like you're just 292 00:17:32,076 --> 00:17:36,036 Speaker 1: someone who throws themselves one hundred percent in I think so, yes, 293 00:17:36,516 --> 00:17:41,676 Speaker 1: yes completely, Because I'm a perfectionist, so I always liked 294 00:17:41,756 --> 00:17:46,676 Speaker 1: try to push myself to learn as much as possible 295 00:17:46,836 --> 00:17:49,636 Speaker 1: and to try to get the best result in my work, 296 00:17:50,276 --> 00:17:52,516 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It was like a lot of 297 00:17:52,876 --> 00:17:55,316 Speaker 1: new things that you were teaching me, and I was like, wow, 298 00:17:55,476 --> 00:17:58,796 Speaker 1: this is all very new, even if I was studying 299 00:17:58,876 --> 00:18:02,796 Speaker 1: for so long a voice lessons and everything. With you, 300 00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:05,076 Speaker 1: it was like, there's so many new things and I 301 00:18:05,236 --> 00:18:08,596 Speaker 1: really want to learn these and understand it. I try 302 00:18:08,676 --> 00:18:11,756 Speaker 1: to really, really really push. I commit. I think no 303 00:18:11,836 --> 00:18:13,956 Speaker 1: matter what you choose, what you do, you gotta commit. 304 00:18:14,076 --> 00:18:17,076 Speaker 1: At least that's how I approach it. Rosalia has told 305 00:18:17,116 --> 00:18:19,476 Speaker 1: me that her discipline to her career was influenced by 306 00:18:19,556 --> 00:18:22,396 Speaker 1: her mom, and that doesn't surprise me at all. I've 307 00:18:22,436 --> 00:18:25,076 Speaker 1: been observing people for years and I've seen the artists 308 00:18:25,076 --> 00:18:27,596 Speaker 1: who have great work ethics quite often learn them from 309 00:18:27,636 --> 00:18:32,516 Speaker 1: the people who raised them. She's a very strong woman 310 00:18:33,876 --> 00:18:37,836 Speaker 1: with a lot of her work ethic is amazing, unbelievable. 311 00:18:37,996 --> 00:18:41,236 Speaker 1: She's such a hard working person, and I think that 312 00:18:41,316 --> 00:18:44,956 Speaker 1: she always had great advices. She always advised me, and 313 00:18:45,316 --> 00:18:49,116 Speaker 1: she always have a perspective about things that I'm always like, okay, 314 00:18:49,196 --> 00:18:52,676 Speaker 1: let me see what my mom thinks. Always always, and 315 00:18:52,836 --> 00:18:56,036 Speaker 1: I think that nowadays, like it's very important for me, 316 00:18:56,156 --> 00:19:00,436 Speaker 1: my family the Latin Grammys in Las Vegas. It was 317 00:19:00,516 --> 00:19:03,956 Speaker 1: two years ago and my grandpa just passed, like he 318 00:19:04,156 --> 00:19:07,436 Speaker 1: just died, like the day before. I had to perform, 319 00:19:07,876 --> 00:19:10,356 Speaker 1: and I was very far from home, and I remember 320 00:19:10,916 --> 00:19:14,876 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like singing, but still I sang and 321 00:19:14,956 --> 00:19:28,876 Speaker 1: I did it, and that was I think one of 322 00:19:28,916 --> 00:19:32,316 Speaker 1: the hardest performances I had to do. My mind wasn't 323 00:19:32,396 --> 00:19:35,236 Speaker 1: there and my heart wasn't there, if that makes sense. 324 00:19:35,916 --> 00:19:40,316 Speaker 1: But the other moments, I'm always very happy, very very excited, 325 00:19:40,436 --> 00:19:43,676 Speaker 1: very grateful to be able to perform. And he would 326 00:19:43,676 --> 00:19:46,156 Speaker 1: have wanted you to, I'm sure, I hope so. I 327 00:19:46,316 --> 00:19:50,756 Speaker 1: was thinking about him when I was singing. Wow, for sure. No, 328 00:19:50,916 --> 00:19:53,716 Speaker 1: I bet he felt that wherever he is. I think 329 00:19:53,756 --> 00:19:57,636 Speaker 1: that because parents, grandparents, anybody who leaves us, they want 330 00:19:57,676 --> 00:19:59,876 Speaker 1: you to keep going and shine and do your best. 331 00:19:59,956 --> 00:20:03,116 Speaker 1: They don't want you to stop your life. I feel 332 00:20:03,156 --> 00:20:08,196 Speaker 1: like he protects me somehow. Oh yeah, he protects me. Yeah. Wow. 333 00:20:09,196 --> 00:20:13,236 Speaker 1: But that now, that performance in Vegas, did you feel 334 00:20:13,276 --> 00:20:15,396 Speaker 1: good about that you were able to do it and 335 00:20:16,116 --> 00:20:19,436 Speaker 1: do a good job? I think so, yes, because it 336 00:20:19,596 --> 00:20:22,716 Speaker 1: was it was really hard, and I think at some 337 00:20:23,236 --> 00:20:29,236 Speaker 1: point m I had to sing it. Maybe that sadness 338 00:20:30,156 --> 00:20:33,836 Speaker 1: I could kind of channel it by singing, right. I 339 00:20:33,996 --> 00:20:38,116 Speaker 1: think I really feel very excited to perform. Most of 340 00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:41,596 Speaker 1: the times. I think my heart always goes faster, like 341 00:20:41,796 --> 00:20:45,476 Speaker 1: my heart always races, always, always, and I feel like 342 00:20:46,236 --> 00:20:49,996 Speaker 1: that's because I care. I'd have to say my favorite 343 00:20:50,036 --> 00:20:53,756 Speaker 1: time seeing Rosalia perform was that the twenty twenty Grammys. 344 00:21:03,436 --> 00:21:05,716 Speaker 1: No matter how proud I am when I watched Rosalia 345 00:21:05,796 --> 00:21:09,556 Speaker 1: perform or make her music, I have to say, I'm 346 00:21:09,676 --> 00:21:12,956 Speaker 1: always excited to start our vocal lessons again. I've been 347 00:21:13,036 --> 00:21:15,036 Speaker 1: missing me now that we're not doing it so much 348 00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:18,476 Speaker 1: because I'm in the studio trying to finish this record. 349 00:21:18,916 --> 00:21:21,636 Speaker 1: I think it's almost there, so I had to focus 350 00:21:21,716 --> 00:21:31,956 Speaker 1: on production. But eddic, I'm coming back. Oh good. What 351 00:21:32,476 --> 00:21:35,316 Speaker 1: is it about doing that? Is it just that it's 352 00:21:35,356 --> 00:21:38,316 Speaker 1: so created that you love it? Or is it because 353 00:21:38,356 --> 00:21:40,436 Speaker 1: you feel like I know what I want better than 354 00:21:40,596 --> 00:21:44,396 Speaker 1: anyone else can create for me? What is it that 355 00:21:44,476 --> 00:21:46,996 Speaker 1: because I know you get so immersed in it. Yes, 356 00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:49,996 Speaker 1: I feel like for me it's so important how my 357 00:21:50,156 --> 00:21:53,476 Speaker 1: music sound, how the songs sound, and it's so personal 358 00:21:53,636 --> 00:21:55,876 Speaker 1: too that I feel like there's no way that I 359 00:21:55,996 --> 00:22:00,236 Speaker 1: can just let somebody else do it. At the end 360 00:22:00,276 --> 00:22:02,836 Speaker 1: of the day, I feel like my album just what 361 00:22:02,956 --> 00:22:06,236 Speaker 1: it's gonna last when I'm not here anymore. This is 362 00:22:06,276 --> 00:22:09,436 Speaker 1: what it's going to be here. I really care about songs, 363 00:22:09,596 --> 00:22:12,596 Speaker 1: every song to try to make it the best way possible. 364 00:22:13,276 --> 00:22:15,676 Speaker 1: I wish maybe I didn't care as much, but at 365 00:22:15,716 --> 00:22:18,196 Speaker 1: the same time, I know that caring so much makes 366 00:22:18,196 --> 00:22:21,676 Speaker 1: a difference. I think in the way things sound, and 367 00:22:21,876 --> 00:22:23,876 Speaker 1: that's just who I am, Like I cannot change it. 368 00:22:24,756 --> 00:22:27,636 Speaker 1: It really represents you, represents your point of view, and 369 00:22:27,836 --> 00:22:30,916 Speaker 1: you can really be like proud of it. I really 370 00:22:31,076 --> 00:22:33,316 Speaker 1: try to do it the best I can. I really 371 00:22:33,396 --> 00:22:36,836 Speaker 1: try to practice as much as I can. I care 372 00:22:36,956 --> 00:22:40,676 Speaker 1: for the details on everything, not just when I'm singing. 373 00:22:40,836 --> 00:22:44,156 Speaker 1: I see that in everything, in the light, the stage design, 374 00:22:44,476 --> 00:22:48,756 Speaker 1: the clothes that I'm wearing, the colors, the nails I mean, 375 00:22:50,796 --> 00:22:55,756 Speaker 1: I mean the nails, of course, everything, everything, everything, And 376 00:22:55,876 --> 00:22:57,996 Speaker 1: I enjoy do anything like that, and I think that 377 00:22:58,116 --> 00:23:00,396 Speaker 1: that's like a work ethic. And I feel like if 378 00:23:00,476 --> 00:23:02,676 Speaker 1: one day I don't care like that as much as 379 00:23:02,796 --> 00:23:05,076 Speaker 1: like that, I don't think that the result would be 380 00:23:05,116 --> 00:23:08,756 Speaker 1: as good. So I don't feel it's a bad thing 381 00:23:08,796 --> 00:23:12,596 Speaker 1: to be perfectionist. That makes sense. But at the same time, 382 00:23:12,716 --> 00:23:16,956 Speaker 1: I feel very grateful that you help me to be like, Okay, yeah, 383 00:23:16,956 --> 00:23:19,956 Speaker 1: you can be a perfectionist while you are practicing, but 384 00:23:20,116 --> 00:23:23,956 Speaker 1: once you go on stage, forget it. Forget it and 385 00:23:24,156 --> 00:23:26,956 Speaker 1: just perform, because that's how I used to do it 386 00:23:26,996 --> 00:23:28,836 Speaker 1: when I was younger, when I was a kid, when 387 00:23:28,836 --> 00:23:31,596 Speaker 1: I was a teenager. But then sometimes you can kind 388 00:23:31,636 --> 00:23:34,356 Speaker 1: of forget it for a second when you get caught 389 00:23:34,436 --> 00:23:37,676 Speaker 1: up on technical things. And it's great that somebody reminds 390 00:23:37,716 --> 00:23:41,436 Speaker 1: you speaking of technical things. After the break, we'll get 391 00:23:41,476 --> 00:23:44,436 Speaker 1: to the vocal tips of the week, influenced by Rosalia 392 00:23:44,556 --> 00:23:55,436 Speaker 1: herself right after this. Here they are my vocal tips 393 00:23:55,476 --> 00:24:05,196 Speaker 1: of the week. First, I've had really good results having 394 00:24:05,276 --> 00:24:08,796 Speaker 1: my students always do at least one forward placement exercise 395 00:24:09,356 --> 00:24:13,196 Speaker 1: lesson one where I actually encourage them to allow themselves 396 00:24:13,276 --> 00:24:16,636 Speaker 1: to sound nasal. Now, I always say to them, don't panic, 397 00:24:16,716 --> 00:24:19,556 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to turn you into a nasal sounding singer. 398 00:24:20,116 --> 00:24:22,876 Speaker 1: It's just one of the many exercises that will help 399 00:24:22,916 --> 00:24:25,196 Speaker 1: you warm up your voice in a healthy way and 400 00:24:25,356 --> 00:24:28,556 Speaker 1: also help you to increase your range. Basically, What I 401 00:24:28,636 --> 00:24:31,356 Speaker 1: want you to do is to focus the sound and 402 00:24:31,516 --> 00:24:34,076 Speaker 1: the vibrations of your voice in the front part of 403 00:24:34,116 --> 00:24:36,796 Speaker 1: your face, which is referred to as the mask. That 404 00:24:37,076 --> 00:24:40,156 Speaker 1: area is starting right around your forehead all the way 405 00:24:40,236 --> 00:24:43,556 Speaker 1: down to about the bottom of your nose. You heard Rosalia, 406 00:24:43,676 --> 00:24:47,876 Speaker 1: it's her favorite exercise. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 407 00:24:47,996 --> 00:24:51,676 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. Now it's your turn to try. Bases. 408 00:24:51,756 --> 00:24:54,876 Speaker 1: Baritones and tenors. Start on the sea below middle sea 409 00:24:55,036 --> 00:25:06,716 Speaker 1: like this. Repeat that pattern, transposing it in other words, 410 00:25:06,836 --> 00:25:09,676 Speaker 1: changing keys down by half steps ntil you reach your 411 00:25:09,716 --> 00:25:12,076 Speaker 1: lowest note, and then going right back up until you 412 00:25:12,156 --> 00:25:44,316 Speaker 1: reach your highest note. Sopranos and elto's, you start on 413 00:25:44,436 --> 00:25:55,476 Speaker 1: an A below middle C like this. Again, repeat that pattern, 414 00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:59,076 Speaker 1: transposing it down, changing keys by half steps until you 415 00:25:59,156 --> 00:26:01,756 Speaker 1: reach your lowest note, and then going right back up, 416 00:26:01,956 --> 00:26:04,636 Speaker 1: changing keys by half steps until you reach your highest note. 417 00:26:04,956 --> 00:26:40,956 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. Try not to move your 418 00:26:41,036 --> 00:26:43,836 Speaker 1: jaw when you're pronouncing that na na na, Just move 419 00:26:43,916 --> 00:26:47,756 Speaker 1: your tongue. By practicing, moving your tongue without moving your 420 00:26:47,836 --> 00:26:50,236 Speaker 1: jaw will not only free up your voice, but it 421 00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:52,796 Speaker 1: will make it so much easier for you to pronounce 422 00:26:52,916 --> 00:26:56,516 Speaker 1: lyrics on high notes. When you're doing songs. Another exercise 423 00:26:56,596 --> 00:26:59,276 Speaker 1: I always try to fit in every lesson is one 424 00:26:59,316 --> 00:27:01,636 Speaker 1: that will prep you to sing your runs and rifts better, 425 00:27:02,036 --> 00:27:04,796 Speaker 1: one that will make your vocal cords more flexible and limber, 426 00:27:05,076 --> 00:27:07,396 Speaker 1: and also really help you to level up your skills 427 00:27:07,476 --> 00:27:11,116 Speaker 1: with better agility. Try starting out with half steps like this. 428 00:27:18,396 --> 00:27:20,436 Speaker 1: If it feels hard for you to stand pitch on 429 00:27:20,516 --> 00:27:24,436 Speaker 1: this exercise because it is tricky, start really slow, trying 430 00:27:24,436 --> 00:27:27,996 Speaker 1: to sing every note cleanly, and then gradually build up speed. 431 00:27:37,956 --> 00:27:40,236 Speaker 1: A really great way to teach you to sing these 432 00:27:40,276 --> 00:27:42,916 Speaker 1: half steps would be to play them on the piano 433 00:27:43,196 --> 00:27:45,876 Speaker 1: as you sing them. Even if you don't know how 434 00:27:45,956 --> 00:27:48,956 Speaker 1: to play the piano, anyone could play half steps because 435 00:27:48,996 --> 00:27:52,156 Speaker 1: it's just one note after another. You might not have 436 00:27:52,276 --> 00:27:54,196 Speaker 1: a piano or a keyboard at home, but you can 437 00:27:54,236 --> 00:27:57,316 Speaker 1: always download a piano keyboard app onto your phone or tablet. 438 00:27:57,756 --> 00:28:00,636 Speaker 1: A good middle range for sopranos and altos would be 439 00:28:00,716 --> 00:28:19,436 Speaker 1: to start here on a middle C. For you bases, 440 00:28:19,476 --> 00:28:22,636 Speaker 1: baritones and tenors start here one act of lower than 441 00:28:22,716 --> 00:28:42,036 Speaker 1: middle c as always experiment and see how high and 442 00:28:42,156 --> 00:28:44,436 Speaker 1: how low you can go, but of course without straining. 443 00:28:44,516 --> 00:28:47,396 Speaker 1: It should always feel comfortable. If you want to try 444 00:28:47,436 --> 00:28:49,916 Speaker 1: out the vocal tips from this episode, I'd love to 445 00:28:50,036 --> 00:28:55,316 Speaker 1: hear you. Use the hashtag Backstage passpod on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, 446 00:28:55,476 --> 00:28:57,916 Speaker 1: or wherever you like to post. I can't wait to 447 00:28:58,076 --> 00:29:00,756 Speaker 1: hear you. After the credits, you'll hear more of my 448 00:29:00,836 --> 00:29:16,276 Speaker 1: conversation with Rosalia Maybe maybe maybe may. Backstage Pass with 449 00:29:16,516 --> 00:29:19,436 Speaker 1: Eric Vitro is written and hosted by me Eric Vitro 450 00:29:19,636 --> 00:29:23,676 Speaker 1: and produced by Morgan Jaffee. Katherine Girardeau is our showrunner. 451 00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:27,596 Speaker 1: Emily Rosstek is our associate producer, mixed and mastered by 452 00:29:27,676 --> 00:29:31,956 Speaker 1: Ben Tolliday. Additional engineering help is from Jacob Gorski. Mia 453 00:29:32,036 --> 00:29:36,236 Speaker 1: Lobell is our executive producer. Our development team, Letal Mullad 454 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:39,556 Speaker 1: and Justine Lange helped create the show, thanks also to 455 00:29:39,676 --> 00:29:44,036 Speaker 1: Jacob Weisberg, Heather Fame, John Schnars, Carlie Migliori, Christina Sullivan, 456 00:29:44,236 --> 00:29:48,836 Speaker 1: Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor, Nicolparando, Daniella Lucan, and Royston Baserve. 457 00:29:49,476 --> 00:29:52,556 Speaker 1: Original theme music is by Jacob and Cita Steele for 458 00:29:52,716 --> 00:29:56,996 Speaker 1: Premier Music Group. We record it Resonate Studios. Fred Talkson 459 00:29:57,036 --> 00:29:59,996 Speaker 1: does our videography and the photography is by Ken Sawyer. 460 00:30:00,356 --> 00:30:03,156 Speaker 1: A very special thanks to Michael Lewis for his inspiration 461 00:30:03,316 --> 00:30:06,556 Speaker 1: and the best guidance anyone could ask for. 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To find more Pushkin podcasts, 470 00:30:35,316 --> 00:30:38,636 Speaker 1: listen to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 471 00:30:38,796 --> 00:30:47,116 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I was out recently. I had to 472 00:30:47,196 --> 00:30:49,836 Speaker 1: go pick up something, and I went into the store 473 00:30:50,356 --> 00:30:53,756 Speaker 1: to pick it up, and your song with Bad Bunny 474 00:30:53,876 --> 00:30:58,476 Speaker 1: was playing. This girl who was I was waiting to 475 00:30:58,836 --> 00:31:01,876 Speaker 1: help me, was doing something for someone else, and all 476 00:31:01,916 --> 00:31:05,036 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I looked over and she was singing along, 477 00:31:05,796 --> 00:31:07,676 Speaker 1: and I saw her lips going with it, and she 478 00:31:07,836 --> 00:31:11,156 Speaker 1: was kind of smiling, and I thought, Wow, I'm seeing 479 00:31:12,156 --> 00:31:16,676 Speaker 1: the joy that an artist's music brings to people. She 480 00:31:16,956 --> 00:31:20,716 Speaker 1: was probably enjoying her day so much more getting to 481 00:31:20,876 --> 00:31:23,756 Speaker 1: hear your songs. It was making her day go by 482 00:31:23,876 --> 00:31:26,236 Speaker 1: faster than when she came over to help me. She 483 00:31:26,396 --> 00:31:29,556 Speaker 1: was all smiles, really friendly, and I thought, Wow, it's 484 00:31:29,636 --> 00:31:33,636 Speaker 1: really beautiful to see that, not just in a life setting. 485 00:31:33,876 --> 00:31:37,676 Speaker 1: It's on the recording, it's in the videos, it's where 486 00:31:37,716 --> 00:31:42,156 Speaker 1: ever anyone's listening. Yeah, how powerful is that? Right? For me, 487 00:31:42,956 --> 00:31:45,796 Speaker 1: what makes my day is listening music. And I feel 488 00:31:45,836 --> 00:31:48,356 Speaker 1: so happy when you tell me that, because then that 489 00:31:48,476 --> 00:31:50,436 Speaker 1: happens the same thing that happens to me that I 490 00:31:50,516 --> 00:31:52,916 Speaker 1: listened so much music, it can happen to other people 491 00:31:52,956 --> 00:31:55,236 Speaker 1: with the music I do, and I feel so grateful, 492 00:31:55,276 --> 00:31:55,516 Speaker 1: you know,