WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Deflating Victory 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:16.720 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:22.000 label broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:27.680 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and NEWI. Scrugs 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:37.440 has a victory Monday. Felt so hollow is a first 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.240 place win. Felt so hollow? It does today? Hi, everybody 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.080 knew Scrugs well to the players. Louns. Brought to you 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.680 by Hotels dot Com. I'm a longtime Cowboys reporter joined 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.040 by two former Dallas Cowboys players, Danny McCray and Barry Church. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.600 Dak Prescott is out for the year. I supposed you 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.000 get out of the hospital today. Scott of Goldnick pr 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.440 Maybean with the team sent out a press release today 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.600 saying that this sex the surgery was successful and they 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.840 expect Dak to be released today. All right, gentlemen, let 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:11.440 me just take your thoughts on what you felt when 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.440 you saw Dak Prescott down on the turf at Jerry World. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:20.000 Mccrat man, it was it was tough, man, it was heartbreaking, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.280 just because you know, I know, I know how people 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.040 around the organzation feel about that. Really people around the world, 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.920 and he's he's an ultimate leader. He's an ultimate of 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.000 the right type of guy, the guy that people look 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.440 up to, it does everything right. So just to see 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.880 something goes so wrong for him was very tough. But 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.319 you know, listening to everybody you know, reach out to 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.960 him and show how much confidence they have in him 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.600 and believe that he will come back even better than before. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.400 You know, was kind of the civil line in that one. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.720 But I feel I feel terrible for Man because he 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.920 was he was on track to do some special and 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:53.960 then the contract year and all that stuff is in there, 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.000 so it's it's a lot going into it, and he 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.880 has a lot going on through his mind. But praying 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:02.480 for Man and hopefully speed to recover and come back better. Now, Yeah, man, 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.520 I mean, I mean, you hate, you hate to see 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.080 something like this happened, especially to a guy like like 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.560 Dak Prescott. I mean on the field, he was a 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.359 captain's he's the leader of this team. I mean, he's 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.280 an unquestioned leader and a franchise leader of this team. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.040 And not only that, you hate to see it happened 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.480 to the guy off the field. I mean, we had 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.959 the pleasure of meeting this guy and knowing him and 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.040 getting to know him, and I mean, this guy is 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.399 genuinely a great dude. Man like he eat, he never 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.080 puts himself above anybody, and you just hate for something 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.679 like this to happen for him. But um, like I said, 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.080 this guy is strong, he's strong natured, and um, he'll 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:37.600 be able to get through this, and I believe he'll 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.840 be back. But for me, this, I mean, it just 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.959 sucks just seeing him on the field like that. Man. 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.400 So for me, like Danny said, man, thoughts and prayers 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.440 go out to him. But I know he'll be healthy, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.359 he'll come back and ball out. I've been lucky enough 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.760 to cover a lot of cowboy teams Jimmy's last team 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.680 here that ended up winning the Super Bowl, UH, covered 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.920 a lot of guys. And watching Dak Prescott leave that 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.720 football field with tears in his eyes, and the way 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.880 people rallied around him and the c Jason Garrett on 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.359 the other side with the Giants to see his concern, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.560 I won't lie to you. I was sitting there and 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:21.720 then my eyes watered up because it stinks that something 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.160 like that happened to someone who's such a good person 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:31.560 to someone who does everything right to someone who, in 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:38.440 my opinion, has made Dallas foot war sports a better place. Um. Yeah, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.760 he went into a situation. It was very hard where 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:44.040 he replaced Tony Romo Way, very loved football player, a 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.720 guy who was popular and never did anything, never misstepped. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.360 You know, he never said anything negative and not anything bad. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.960 I mean he helped. He just he just operates the 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:55.680 right kind of way. And I just want to give 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.400 you a quick, you know, glimpse into my you know, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.360 my experiences with Dak. I'm not going to sip you 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.520 tell hey, Dak and I are buddies and friends. We 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:08.000 are friendly. Um I said to him, I said, my 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.200 kid loves you. You are you are her you know 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.440 you're you're her favorite player, and she wants to meet 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.160 you one day. He says, let's make that happen. And 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.600 he just looked at me again, okay, with sincerity. And 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.560 I remember telling my kid, all right, Dak says that 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.600 he'll meet you and you can get a picture with Dak. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.800 But you know, you gotta gotta get schoolwork done, you know. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.920 So she was wanting to get her schoolwork done, and 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.640 unfortunately COVID COVID came around and we weren't able to 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.200 do it. But you know, that's that kind of guy. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.080 He wants to be the leader of the franchise and 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.479 he knows what goes along with it. He never gets 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.200 tired of it. And you guys are players, and you 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.599 guys have you guys now have kids, and you know 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.320 that's the most important thing in your life. And when 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.839 someone you know wants to willingly go out of their 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.560 way to do something that would have to do to 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.080 try to make your kids smile, it just makes you 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.200 think so much more of him. And Dak is that 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.080 kind of guy. And I know several people who have 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.840 those kind of stories about the kind of man he is. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.200 And that was why I watered my eyes watered up 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.320 because like, this is a good dude. Why does this 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.480 have to happen? He just lost his brother this summer. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.640 He spoke openly about how he had reached a point 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.240 of depression and went to seek help. And you know, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.240 we all know about the story of him losing his 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.440 mother to can't And you just say, man, how many 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.800 hits does a good dude like this have to take? 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.120 So that was why I had tears in my eyes, man, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:34.000 because it was just like, damn not that. Yeah, it 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.040 was tough, man. And like you said, it just the 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.080 just the people around that came to just in support 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.760 of him. It just goes to show you how much 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.640 he affected everyone, and like how how positively he affected everyone. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.560 I mean, like you said, Coach Garrett coming from the 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.480 other sidelines to come and show his support, his whole 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.640 team gathering around him, you know as he was getting 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.680 hoisted up into the cart. I mean, it just goes 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.800 to show you the testament of the type of man 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.080 he was, the type of character he has, and the 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.400 leadership he has. And like I said, man, we all 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:07.360 wishing him a speedy and in our healthy recovery. But man, yeah, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.120 this one hurt. Just one't hurt him. Man, this one 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.440 definitely hurt. And and I want to come to the 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.239 defense of all all NFL football players who have played 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.320 and will play on playing currently. This is why, you know, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.279 like unlike any other sport, unlike any other national league, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.440 where players always fight for, you know, the ability to 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.120 get guaranteed contracts, ability to make their money when they can, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.720 because you know, you listen to the fans and they 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.800 ask it, and they all ask why they and they 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.360 moaned and complain when players trying to get all their money, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.560 and then you know, things like this happened. You know, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.599 not just back is Alice Smith. You know in the 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.880 previous year, it's Ryan Shazier in a year. You know 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.560 when when when things like this happened, Like football players 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.640 are asking for this for a specific reason, and anybody 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.400 who looks at them and says they're being greedy or 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.200 or they shouldn't be doing this so they need to 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.279 go out there and perform blah blah blah blah blah. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.159 Take a look at this and swallow that pill and 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.680 just realize that you were wrong and get on the 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.680 side of the players, because the harsh reality of the NFL, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.440 these things like this will happen. And even though it does, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.520 players still deserve to make their money, you know, for 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.680 what they did on the field, all they gave to 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.960 the game. So stop hating on the man. Let these 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.840 guys make their money. Get one on the side of 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.000 the players. I want to take what you said. Add 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.760 one more name to this. Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewater was 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.280 a Pro Bowl quarterback who had taken Minnesota to the 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.920 playoffs and in a practice just a routine practice, Teddy 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.800 goes down and Teddy tears up his leg. I mean 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.560 he tears it up. That guys were there crying watching it. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.000 They all knew it was bad when it happened, ended 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.640 up happening before the season. And despite Teddy Bridgewater being 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.280 the right kind of guy and loved throughout the Minnesota organization, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.960 you know what Minnesota did. They cut him. They cut him. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.000 He did not get made and then so Teddy Bridgewater 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.680 had the long, the long road to come back and 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.280 was a backup player for for several seasons. And yesterday 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.880 he led the Carolina Panthers to a victory and he 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:12.000 ended up getting himself a multi year contract this offseason 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.480 with Caroline after spending two years with the Saints. But 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.800 I go back to that about how you better get 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.080 what you can while you can't, because there's no guarantee 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.880 that you're going to be healthy, and even more so, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.880 there's no there's no guarantee that your team will love 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:30.000 you next year. And you're right, and look, I'm gonna 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.800 throw another name in there, Tyrod Taylor. I mean, we 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.520 don't know what's going on in that situation over in La. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.080 I mean, it was a little bit different because it 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.000 was the negligence of the team, But still, I mean, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.000 can they get away without giving him his money guaranteed? 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.880 I mean the kid might not play the rest of 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.360 the season. So I mean it's like you said, McCrae, 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.880 it's a fight. And now people should realize why players 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.120 go tooth and nail and fight for the most guaranteed 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.520 money they can get because football's a violence sport and 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:55.920 you never know what's going to happen on each and 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.280 every down. So like mcraie said, man, you gotta get 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:04.840 your money. So Edward Or ESPN Guide, knowing and respected 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.040 a long long time edward Or had tweeted out talking about, hey, 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.000 Dak Prescott was offered a contract, turned it down. We 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.320 know a lot of the issue had come between the 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.520 years of the Cowboys wanting a five year deal, Prescott 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.680 wanting a four year deal, and there were other people 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.400 in the media who jumped on that that hey, this 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.760 was all Dak, Dak took a risk. This is what 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:29.079 you do. How do you feel about that, gentleman, We're 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.400 gonna we're gonna dive into it. Uh, I guess we're 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:38.280 diving into it, man, um, Look, man, Um. Emotionally, you know, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.679 I feel like, yeah, man, you know he's he's spot 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.600 tooth and nail. He's never missed a start. Um. You know, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.320 he's been the unquestioned leader of this team. So you 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.800 know they need to go ahead and break him off 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.360 what he wants and give him his money. Um. But 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.000 then again, you know, it harps back to the business 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.040 side of things, and you gotta take your emotions out 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.680 of it. And if I'm the Cowboys, I'm like, look, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.720 they weren't willing to pay him when he he was healthy, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.240 and when he was you know, putting on work. You know, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.400 why would they go ahead and then pay him what 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.800 he wants after this injury. I mean, I know it 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.560 sounds harsh, but it's I mean, it's the reality. It's 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.040 the reality of the business we're in. So for me, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.720 it's it's a tough one. It's a tough cookie. Um. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.880 But I can see them, you know, maybe franchise and 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.480 him one more time, just to see where he's act, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.319 get a little bit more sample size, making sure he's 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.240 come back healthy from this injury. But overall, I mean, 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.079 it's it's a sticky situation and at the end of 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.040 the day, it is a business, so I mean it's tough. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.679 It's a tough one, yeah, And then I think the 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.040 only thing wrong with what Edwarder did was his timing. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.120 Other than that, I mean what he said was true, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.720 and the truth is that that did gamble on itself. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.439 And sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. And 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:48.880 we still don't know it's not gonna work out. He 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.160 just he just suffered a rusal injury. Um, things can 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.200 still play out in his favor, depending on how the 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.439 season goes and how Jerry Jones and then look several 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.520 you know, he could still possibly give his forty mel 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.280 we could go up there in theoked like straight guards 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.440 or the argument that they knew he said, you know 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.360 at the beginning of the show was hey, depending on 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.880 how Andy Dunn plays, maybe possibly they could go look 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.439 for somebody else to say that. You know, anybody could 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.160 well somebody another person with high caliber could carry his team. So, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.520 you know, he gambled on himself and it just didn't 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.280 work out. Because right before this we were saying he 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.800 gambled on himself and it worked out. So you know, 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.920 that's just part of the game. So in his business, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.960 I don't think it would be any hard feelings between 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.840 either one up. We all hope that the Dallas Cowboys 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.480 do us right, but the gamble, you know, in this sense, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.319 as far as the injury wise, it just didn't pay 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.800 off like we hoped it would. So let me just 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.800 reset in case some Cowboy fans don't understand. Dak Prescott, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.280 being a fourth round draft pick, had a four year contract, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.560 so last season was his fourth d It's the fourth 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.920 year of his deal, the final year, and they could 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.080 not come to a contract. The Cowboys thought they had 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.720 a deal done in September, but Dak's agent, Todd France, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.480 basically he's like, nah, nah, after he started the three games, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.200 we're not going to do that deal. They did not 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.760 talk during the off season. We thought there'd be more conversation. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:11.120 There were not conversations. Todd Franz. Dak's agent had three players, okay, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.840 three of his clients were all on franchise tags. Not 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.560 one of the three clients ended up signing a long 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.560 term deal. So Dak Prescott came into this season on 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.800 a one year deal for thirty one point four million dollars. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.960 He did not get his deal done, and I ended 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.640 up texting with a prominent NFL agent, a guy who's 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.959 had another, you know, high profile client get franchise tagged 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.199 and he and this is what he wrote me or 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.079 read it. He says, that's why you get deals done, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.920 because you shouldn't be gambling with the players health. And 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.880 to me, as I saw Dak Prescott and tears going 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.400 off that car, I just said to myself, Todd France, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.840 did you do right by your client? You wanted a 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.360 four year deal, they wanted a five year deal. That's 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.520 what it really came down to over years. Look, I 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.200 think Dak is a tremendous football player, and I'm always 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.000 going to be on the side of guys getting paid. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.880 But I'm also I've been in this thing long enough 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.320 to know you do at some point in time, need 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.000 to take what you can get. And take this bite. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.960 Because he's a quarterback. He'll get another bite of that apple, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.920 but make sure you put some of these guaranteed dollars 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.280 in his pocket. And yes, he's guaranteed thirty one million bucks, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.040 but if this contract was five years, one seventy five, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:28.280 it would have been a hell of a lot more 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.920 than what he's got. And now the Cowboys have the leverage. Okay, 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.400 Dak had the leverage and the way he was playing 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:35.920 this year, he was going to have the leverage. But 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.360 this injury now puts the leverage back into the Cowboys 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.000 hands during a pandemic. I'm not a fair of France. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.480 I gotta say, Man, the thought process and that to 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.640 me is, you know, it's tough, right because what happens 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.839 is Dak is a guy who has been through some stuff. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.960 He was going to get drafted. He ended up slipping 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.079 to the fourth round. Things worked out for him, and 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.280 Tony Romo got hurt, Like things besides this one, he said, 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.640 been working out. So him gambling on himself and believing 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.080 that he can get stuff done and get what he 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.880 deserves was in his mind as well, you know, as 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.280 far as being like, hey, I'm gonna go out here 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:09.559 and I know that I'm good, and I know we 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.080 got weapons, and I know that I'm gonna have the 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.920 best season that I can to get paid the highest. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.320 So it's difficult to be like, hey, I'm gonna just 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.480 take this, you know, knowing that in my mind I'm 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.600 a competitor and I know I can go outperform that 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.400 and get and get more money so you know, it 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.200 is on his ageing a little bit. But I know 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.440 back believed in himself just as much as his agent 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.960 did as far as going out there and playing on 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.760 that one year deal just so he can get everything 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.400 that he's worth. And a lot of times when people 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.840 gamble on themselves, it works out, so he had a 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.520 chance for it to work out. This is just one 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.240 of those freak accidents that usually doesn't happen to a 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.040 player in this type of situation, but it did just 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.360 because it's the NFL. So he still had a chance 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.240 to go out there and prove and get everything that 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.480 he wanted. He still does. It just didn't work out 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.360 this time. So it's tough. You know, maybe he should 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.240 have took the money, maybe he shouldn't have, but he 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.400 wasn't baking on getting injured. He was baking on going 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.640 out there and have a he of a season like 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.040 he was. It's see Danny, And this is where I 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.080 come back to as as as the agent and the representative. Okay, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.400 that's how I'm thinking of this, is that I'm asking 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.960 my client to take two years in it. Hey man, 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.480 I want you to gamble another year. Okay, We're gonna 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.920 turn down this boatload of money again and go out 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.440 here and play in a sport where you know, dudes 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.080 get hurt. I'm thinking more of the player in the 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.440 long term. And I'm telling you there's a whole lot 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.600 of people who are wondering because Todd France changed his agency. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.000 Now you think about this, Just just ask yourself this. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.600 You have three clients to a franchise tad, all three 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.040 clients do not get long term deals, and you were 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.960 the agent, now switch agencies. Could there have been some 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.880 play there where he was trying to make sure that 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.200 maybe some commissions that will not be a different way 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.200 and he was gonna make more money off of I'm 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.120 hearing that one client in Denver that he had who 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.080 was under the franchise tact that there were no meaningful conversations. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.200 And then of course we heard the report from James 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.880 Slater of NFL Network that at the end they tried 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.480 to talk and then get anything done for Dak. I 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.680 just I just have a problem that you know, where 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.800 where was the contact? You know, you you got three 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.400 dudes and nobody gets done. I mean, what are you 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:18.240 doing as an agent? I'll just trying to figure Yeah, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.240 like what happens. If if if it ended up being 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.200 like a Kirk Cousins deal where he ended up getting 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.040 franchise and then ended up hitting big, then you know 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.800 we'd be second guessing. Yeah, he's a smart guy. And 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.760 at the end of the day, you know, Daks are 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.840 just like the rest of his clients. They're grown men. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:34.880 If they wanted, you know, to take to go ahead 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.320 and take the deal, they can tell him, Look, man, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.240 I don't care what you're saying, thy France, go ahead 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.480 and take this deal. So at the end of the day, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.920 you know, it was Dak's gamble, and he did gamble, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.560 and like Danny said, it just you know, it didn't 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.440 work out the way he wished it would worked out 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.320 this time. But like now, I mean, he bet on 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.760 himself and that's the risk you take sometimes. Okay, Church, Now, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.440 now I come back to this, and this is where 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.520 you know, I'm still having you know, I'm still trying 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.320 to figure out, you know, exactly what happened here. This 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:01.840 is where COVID gets in the way where you can't 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.560 really get some of that conversations with people one on one. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.679 But but just the fact that there was a conversation 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.600 late okay late, So they were talking as the deadline, 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.119 you know it was it was approaching three o'clock, but 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.480 they ran out of time to get something done. Steven's 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.440 acknowledged a little bit of that. So if you're trying 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.320 to get something done here in the last moment, that 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.160 tells me that there was a deal to be made 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.359 and it didn't get done. Which that's where I go 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.399 back to the agent. If why weren't you talking to 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.240 these guys July first? You know, where's where's your list? 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.760 You know? I mean to me, if you're probably an agent, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.320 you know, where's the logs of Hey, I talked to 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.040 Steve and we or talked to you that you were 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.200 trying to get something done for the client. I mean, 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.320 if you're trying to sell your house and the real 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.439 to talk to you at all about what's going on 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.280 and you don't have an understanding, Hey, how are you 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.200 going through this process? I mean, that's for me. That's 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.400 when people represent me. I want to know what were 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.920 you doing? What kind of conversations because these are negotiations, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:57.199 they're back and forth types of things, and do we 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:02.520 know what happened? There were no convert the conversations because 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:07.320 I'm still believe that on his four year deal. Oh yes, yes, 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.600 the whole thing about the conversation that has been reported 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.560 several times, and the same thing about Todd France with 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.120 one of his clients in Denver, the same thing where 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.639 this this is a guy who wasn't picking up the 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.320 phone engaging with people about trying to get something done 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.600 with his guys here. So now I'm talking about that, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:26.320 I'm talking about that with his own agent, um to 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.720 my knowledge, yes, yes, with the agent, but I'm talking 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:34.320 about the agent with the club. That's what I'm talking about. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.400 Got you So you're saying the agent wasn't reaching out 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:39.919 to the club to get something done. He was just 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.960 waiting on them to come and come and offer something, right, 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.360 and and and it did that with at least two 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.119 of the three guys that I know, at least two 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.439 of the three, and that took What do you do? 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.400 What are you doing? If that's the case. If yeah, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.440 if that's the case, then that that's bad agents. That's 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.320 bad agent work. If that's the case where he's not, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.480 you know, reaching out trying to get the best deal possible. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.280 I mean, if if that's the case, then yeah, I mean, 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.359 I'm I'm I'm pissed at the agent. You know what. 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.320 I'm like, Man, you don't have my best interest if 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.040 you're not going out there fighting for me and you're 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.080 just waiting on a call. So I mean, if that's 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:13.639 the case, then I definitely would agree with you that 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.040 Todd France was. You know, he didn't play as he 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:20.000