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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two here on the Drive, Wes

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Speaker 2: Shooler and Matt Williamson with you on this Monday as

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Speaker 2: we continue the football talk here Matt President's Day. It's

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Speaker 2: I pulled up here. I was like, it's so quiet,

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Speaker 2: all the lights offer in the building.

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Speaker 3: I giggled myself a little. I'm like, oh, I forgot

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Speaker 3: it's a holiday. Even like my wife's works at a bank.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, are you working today, presidents, dy dude? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I appointment, That's what.

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Speaker 2: That's one of those nice you know, like every holiday

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Speaker 2: basically other than July fourth, Thanksgiving and Christmas is like

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, man, it'd be nice to be in

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Speaker 2: the corporate world on a day like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, But.

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Speaker 2: Then again we still Thanksgivings and Christmases at all that they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even like phase me. I'm like, I guess we

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Speaker 3: won't get mail today.

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Speaker 2: And okay, I was joking with TV last week. I

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Speaker 2: was like I when I was growing up, like July

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Speaker 2: fourth was fun. It was awesome and fireworks in America

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Speaker 2: and all that, but it was just kind of like whatever.

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Speaker 2: Now I love July fourth because it's the only holiday

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Speaker 2: that I know that I'm gonna have time. It's the

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Speaker 2: only major holiday that we can really live it up,

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Speaker 2: yes that we know we're gonna have multiple days off

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Speaker 2: in a row.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: We are coming off of the Super Bowl, of course,

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Speaker 2: won by the Seattle Seahawks. With that, NFL dot Com

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Speaker 2: posted there the teams with the biggest Super Bowl windows

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Speaker 2: heading into twenty twenty six, and they listed seven teams.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I saw this headline. I didn't click on it,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if they even preface it. And

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Speaker 3: this is just from someone that's written thousands of articles

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Speaker 3: for big sites in my life. I wonder there's two

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Speaker 3: ways I would look at this. As if my editor

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Speaker 3: sent me this note and said, Matt, give me the

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Speaker 3: seven biggest Super Bowl windows, I'd be like, do I

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Speaker 3: want the window that is open the widest right now,

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Speaker 3: you know, like Seattle, sure? Or do I want the

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Speaker 3: window that's going to be open the longest, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, like.

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Speaker 2: Like a Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Maybe theer should be the next three four or five years.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, before they start listing them, did

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Speaker 3: they preface this or not, because again, I'm just kind

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Speaker 3: of being a nerd. From the writer's perspective.

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Speaker 2: It's time to move past Super Bowl sixty with an

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Speaker 2: eye on the teams that could hoist the Lombardi Trophy

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Speaker 2: in the future. There's plenty of roster construction to still

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Speaker 2: be done before the season kicks off. The following seven

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Speaker 2: teams have a jump on the competition as title contenders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it doesn't one hundred percent specify.

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Speaker 2: Because it does in the future.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. If he didn't have that phrase

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Speaker 3: in there, because it doesn't say.

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Speaker 2: I think he means like in the future as in

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Speaker 2: kind of this coming season, not four years from now.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I was also going to say not for long.

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Speaker 3: Definitely should be implied in this league, Like the chances

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Speaker 3: that anyone's gonna have a window more than two or

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Speaker 3: three years that you feel confident about is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's why the Chiefs thing is so rare. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: Brady thing is so rare. Yeah, that's why I was mad.

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Speaker 2: I was laughing, like, I know, I've told you this

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Speaker 2: before and hey, they've been to three Super Bowls in

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Speaker 2: what the last eight years, which is about is what

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Speaker 2: you can hope for. But like when I was in

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia and the Eagles won that twenty eighteen Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the Foles and all that, they were selling T shirts

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Speaker 2: like always you know the TV show always Sunny in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, every episode is titled the Gang something. Yea,

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Speaker 2: so the Gang steals the Liberty Bell, the Gang solves

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like they were selling T shirts it said like the

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Speaker 2: Gang started dynasty, you know, and like two years later

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Speaker 2: they're winning four games and you know, and again they've

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Speaker 2: now they've won two in multiple.

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Speaker 3: They've been very successful franchise.

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Speaker 2: But even last year they were like, oh, we've thrown

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and now it's our time to go to

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Speaker 2: a bunch of Super Bowls and you know, they're making

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Speaker 2: very hard to do what the Chiefs just did. And

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Speaker 2: even with the Eagles having gone to three in the

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Speaker 3: Side note, I was at ESPN dot com for ten

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Speaker 3: years and when somewhere when it was downtime, they'd be like, Mac,

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Speaker 3: give me an article of position by position, who the

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Speaker 3: top five players are going to be. I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: It's three years from now or five years from now.

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Speaker 3: I hated it. Yeah, I'm like, the running backs are

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Speaker 3: all in one of the might be in high school,

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Speaker 3: and most of them all going to be in college.

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Speaker 3: I have no clue who they even are. Three of

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Speaker 3: the guys are going to blow out a knee between

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Speaker 3: now and then at the top positions that you assume

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Speaker 3: are going to be fine. It's like this is an

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Speaker 3: impossible exercise.

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Speaker 2: Right, impossible. But these seven teams, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of rhyme to the reason. And obviously we'll start

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Speaker 2: with the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but as champions go the weekend after Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 3: I would take the field against them, timess a million. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean they're not they I don't think they're set

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Speaker 3: up like some teams we've seen the Chiefs in particular,

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Speaker 3: where they win their first and it's like, oh, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be here, no doubt, no doubt about it. I

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Speaker 3: mean they lost an offensive coordinator, their quarterbacks a good player,

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Speaker 3: but he's not a superstar, special, no brainer hall of famer.

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Speaker 3: They've got some division, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, top division is a great point too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's didn't play first race schedule, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the things will be a lot tougher. They

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Speaker 3: would be the top of the list. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think that they're even necessarily the odds on favorite to

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Speaker 3: win the super Bowl next year when when the rosters

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Speaker 2: Because the odds on favorite might be in their division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the things Their biggest rival is gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be and that's the team they have. Number two on

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Speaker 3: And I trust, I love what's going on Seattle. If

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Speaker 3: it sounds like a bashing Seattle, I'm not at all.

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Speaker 3: I just trust McVeigh more than anybody out there.

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Speaker 2: And it'd be if Seattle had a Matthew stat And

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Speaker 2: this is again, what Sam Darnold just did was crazy impressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean the run that he just had in the

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Speaker 2: playoffs was outstanding. But we don't have to kill ourselves

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Speaker 2: and act like he's got Matt Stafford Cachet or Mahomes

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Speaker 3: He could turn into a pumpkin. Still, sure those guys won't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not betting on Donald turning into.

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Speaker 3: Now, but crazy things happen.

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Speaker 2: He also might not be able to be the high

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Speaker 2: tide that lifts all boats when you lose a couple

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Speaker 2: guys in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if we're looking at it for years down

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Speaker 3: the road, well, now you're gonna have to sign Smith

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Speaker 3: and Jigba and Witherspoon. I mean you draft those guys

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Speaker 3: a pricey off season. You know, It's it's just not

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's easy to serve, easier to survive

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Speaker 2: losing Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins and Kareem Hunt and

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the Ams at number two, I completely understand. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we know Stafford's coming back, so maybe it's only one

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Speaker 2: more year for them that this windows wide open. But

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Speaker 2: that window is wide open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you throw two first round picks und right, Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Number three the runner up New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see that. I think they still have

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Speaker 3: a lot of holes and by no one's lucky to

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Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl. But a first play schedule

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Speaker 3: is going to change their world A lot LABS always

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Speaker 3: talks about, you know, these teams that go from like

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Speaker 3: worse to first all of a sudden, You're playing five

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Speaker 3: primetime games and you're not rested when you get home

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Speaker 3: at four am. It's different when you play one or

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Speaker 3: two on Thursday night. You know, a long week to relax,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it's just a little tougher being the

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Speaker 3: hunted and you're not picking third in the draft again

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Speaker 3: or fourth or whatever. You're picking thirty first and you

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Speaker 3: don't have the most cap space in the league. I

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Speaker 3: love their future. I just don't know that I'll even

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Speaker 3: pick him to go to the playoffs next year. I

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Speaker 3: think Lamarin Burrow and Allen and Mahomes are still roaming

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Speaker 2: You know, you start with Rabel and Drake May. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of reason for optimism there. But but you're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Diggs is back for one more year under contract,

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Speaker 2: just did. And then kay Sean Booty is entering the

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Speaker 2: to to give him a line needs a lot of help.

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Speaker 2: The Bills are still in that division, not going away.

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Speaker 3: Uh, they could be on this list, you know.

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Speaker 2: And Chiefs improving potential for the Ravens and the Bengals

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you just know that there's big time quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Big time Uh. Number four on this list, and this

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Speaker 2: Of the seven Philadelphia Eagles, Number four, I just bad vibes.

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Speaker 2: And I Matt I said this two years ago that

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was unraveling in Philadelphia and then

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Speaker 3: But I've been such a roller coach these last three years.

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Speaker 2: I worked for that organization for three years. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And my in laws and my wife are all die

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Speaker 2: hards and season ticket holders, and I'm very kind of

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Speaker 2: tapped into that. It's volatile.

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Speaker 3: It's volatile, it's is their coach. This great stabilizer to

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Speaker 3: deal with volatility or the quarterback. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: There's Google and Apple and stocks that you could buy

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Speaker 2: and you know they're gonna ray and Amazon and they're

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Speaker 2: not going anywhere, and they're they're not gonna have a

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Speaker 2: crazy jump on you, but they're not gonna.

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Speaker 3: In five years you made money.

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Speaker 2: But then there's there's some of these AI stocks and

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Speaker 2: companies like that that are more volatile. And yes, maybe

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Speaker 2: in a few months time you'll be doing jumping jacks

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Speaker 2: because you just turned your investment tenfold. Yeah, but maybe

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Speaker 2: it's gonna tank and you're gonna end up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I'm leaning towards the tank and end up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: With the Eagles, and I shouldn't say it up with nothing.

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Speaker 2: They've been to three super Bowls. Worth one. It's all

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Speaker 3: If they go oh and seventeen next year, it's worth it.

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Speaker 3: I'm leaning that way too. And the biggest thing I

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Speaker 3: we both recognized they could win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Lane Johnson comes back and plays at a high level.

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Speaker 2: AJ brown and happy and hurts kissing makeup and they're fine,

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Speaker 3: Didn't seem like anyone wanted the offensive coordinator job. And

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Speaker 2: Boat right now, and Stoutland's gone, yeah, yeah, right, And

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just what if you lose Fangio? Stoutland, Johnson

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Speaker 2: Like again, and Sirianni still is volatile. I realize he's

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Speaker 2: and I think that's a bridge too far.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: You're not a nincompoop in this league doing what they've

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Speaker 2: done the past three seasons, playoffs, playoffs, playoffs, super Bowl

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Speaker 3: And ownership in GM will keep you in it for sure.

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Speaker 3: They will not cut any corner as ever.

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Speaker 2: And the defense should be good enough that there's a

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Speaker 2: I just that that one is on rocky footing. That

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Speaker 3: Not on rock.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is yeah, number five, the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if they can ever be good

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're kind of right. Everything went their way

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Speaker 3: No, Like, I'm definitely gonna pick them for to go

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if I can pick them to

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Speaker 1: Ever.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are not going away, No. I think you

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Speaker 3: I think Charge will be in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Broncos are an interesting one because you you

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Speaker 3: Might be the champs right now, which would be against

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Speaker 2: But their division is tough. It is tough, tough, tough

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think greatly trending the wrong direction or right director,

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Speaker 2: Division is tough, conference is tough, yes, yes, but man,

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Speaker 3: Usually shows in a plexic last kind of way. When

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not saying that suddenly they turn into world

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like could when awards time rolls around, might

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Speaker 3: we be like MVPs between Mahomes and Caleb. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: May next year.

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Speaker 2: Totally absolutely could you and I have been doing it.

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people will start talking

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Speaker 3: Same with Loveland. You know the receivers, you know, A

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Speaker 2: like the Eagles, the Jacksonville Jags the final one.

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Speaker 3: Part of me thought they were the best team in

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Speaker 3: I put them over like the Chiefs or Bills, though, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I understand the reasoning. You get Travis Hunter back, which

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Speaker 2: next year. No, but if you're making me bet right now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'll pick them to win the division.

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Speaker 3: I might.

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Speaker 2: Division's gonna be tough. Yeah, if especially if the Titans

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Speaker 3: To see what Daniel Jones the situation now.

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Speaker 2: Instead of thirteen and four, they go eleven and six

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't surprise me at all, But I don't when.

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Speaker 3: I see it.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks and the Rams feel like a pretty big window.

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Speaker 2: The Bears I think so too, But then some of

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Speaker 2: these other ones, I might. I don't know. There's some

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Speaker 3: I still think there's four elite quarterbacks walking the planet

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Speaker 3: and none of them are on the list. And that's the.

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Speaker 2: Words I was looking for right there, Pat Williamson, And

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Speaker 2: until that changes, the Super Bowl window conversation is always interesting.

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Speaker 3: I definitely would have the Chiefs and Bills on there.

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Speaker 3: I think you had to pick seven, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to. So that was a fun

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Speaker 2: exercise something I wanted to kick around with Matt