1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: People are going to listen to this and say, oh, 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: well he has an agenda. It's like, well, everyone we've 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: talked to has an agenda that we happened to be 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: on the player side. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Welcome into North Side Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm Sahade Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney, who were 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: your Cubs beat writers for The Athletic, and we are 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: talking about the once again winning Cubs who go on 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: the road and suddenly learn how to win again. It 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: doesn't matter who they're facing. It can be one of 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: the best teams in baseball apparently, and they can still 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: win games. Patrick is out in La covering this team. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: I don't think we should try and understand it because 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: it makes no sense. But the Cubs are winning again 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: and it was kind of a really fascinating game on 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: Tuesday night. 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Cubs just had to get out of 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Brinkley Field, right, I mean, I think you know, Dodger 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Stadium is a great stage, like just a kind of 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: spectacular atmosphere. And you had showed him in Naga and 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Yamamoto going against each other and showed a did a 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: wonderful job of just kind of hanging in there, getting 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: up three solo home runs in seven innings and really 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: just showing how he's carried this team on his back. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: And Pete crow Armstrong, who grew up not that far 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: from here, just making some spectacular catches in center fields, 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: including a leaping one at the wall to take a 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: two run home run away. 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: Very Mike Taalkman esque in that regard. 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's kind of like, you know, 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: I asked Nico Horner after the game, it was like, 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: with all due respect, do you guys really think you 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: can do this? Like, you know, just kind of looking 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: at the math and you know what is sort of 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: the belief level? 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: And he was very realistic. 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Nico, as you know, was probably like the 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: best person to ask almost any question about the team. 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: He talks like THEO he kind of thinks that way, 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: but he actually plays, so he has this tremendous insights. 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: And Yep, he kind of rattled through of you know, 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: what's out of their control and what's in their control. 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: And I think they've played really pretty crisp brand of. 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Baseball here in LA for the first two games. 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's been you know, I've for 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: some reason stayed up to watch most of the games, 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: and I mean last night especially was exciting. Pek Armstrong 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: making all those catches. Some of them were just like 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: the one where there seemed to be miscommunication between him 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: and Bellinger was almost like, I don't even know what 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: to think about that one, but it was fun to watch. 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: And the one to end the game, obviously, like you said, 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: talkman ask, it seemed like he had to like almost 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: go through traffic of the fan his hands and hats 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: and things like that. 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: Pretty fascinating to watch. 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: He's you know, and I agree with with your point 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: earlier in the season that this team had gotten boring. 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: He's changed that for sure, like his presence changes that. 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: His presence alone, well, I will say showed is really 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: fun to watch because he's animated on the mound and 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: that that makes him entertaining as well. He's he's a 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: good character on the on the field as well. But 64 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: PCA has this something about him, the speed, the flair 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: on defense, the you know how he is a terror 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: on the base, pats Uh. 67 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: It just makes it fun to watch him. 68 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Anything can happen when when he's on the field and 69 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: the Cubs need someone like that to to make the 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: game more entertaining. Patrick, Before we get to this weird offense, 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: I just want to, like, since you're out there, Porter Hodge, 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: it was a weird incident on TV. I just want 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: to make sure or like, what was the explanation after 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: the game? What what was going on and is there 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: any concern there? 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Manager Craig Council said, from the dugout, they noticed he 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: was kind of just moving fast, and he shared that, 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, his part was sort of racing a bit, 79 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: and it was kind of a weird tack on at 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the end of the game. Council did not appear to 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: be all that concern. Hodge was walking through the clubhouse afterwards, 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I believe, Counsel said, you know, they kind of checked 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: this out as well in the past. He'd imagine there'd 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: be further evaluation as well, but certainly something that we'll have. 85 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: On our radar when we go. 86 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: Back to Dodger Stadium here for me in a couple hours. 87 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, that was that was odd and certainly 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: like when you have someone like holding their check type 89 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: thing on the it gets worrisome. But it did like 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: the fact that they let him finish the game, and 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: then council didn't seem overly concerned after the game. It 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: should should be encouraging at the very least this offense. Patrick, 93 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: It's what's happening between the home, home and road is real, right, 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Like there's something weird going on. Like the numbers have said, 95 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: Wrigley Field is way down as far as an offensive 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: park this year, it's among the worst. 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: I want to say different. 98 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: You know, different ballpark park factors have at different levels, 99 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: but all of them are in like the bottom three. 100 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: I even had this conversation with someone with the White 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Sox about like soon after the deadline, where I think 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: the White Sox are like twenty ninth and the Cubs 103 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: are twenty eighth as far as worst offensive ballparks. Now, 104 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: that could be because they're bad offenses playing at those 105 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: ballparks and good, but I think that's the case with 106 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: the White Sox. I'm not sure if that's the case 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: with the Cubs, because they according to so on the 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: road way to runs great at plus they have the 109 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: ninth best way to runs create a plus. They're they're right, 110 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: they're ahead of the Phillies, They're right behind the Mets. 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: They're they're basically the same as the Mets and the 112 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: Brewers that like that. Those are solid offenses. And then 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: you go on the road and they are the twenty 114 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: fifth best offense by way to runs great at plus 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: did I stay on the road, I met at home. 116 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: At home they have the twenty fifth best offense. Listen, Like, 117 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: I've noticed this for years, I feel like it blows 118 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: in more than it used to. This year, I do 119 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: feel like it's been extreme blowing in. 120 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: My counter to. 121 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: That is it doesn't always make sense to me because 122 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: this isn't a home run hitting team, So why it's 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: not like how many homers did they hit over the 124 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: past two nights, just like two nights one? Was it 125 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: just Cody or did someone. 126 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: Else at home? 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Bus hit one hit one oppo that you know barely 128 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: got off right. 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: They're just not like, it doesn't make sense to me. 130 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: And then they scored fourteen runs in Washington the last 131 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: game of that good road trip, they didn't hit a 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: home run. Like I don't fully understand this, but I 133 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: know it's a topic of conversation among the players, among 134 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: the coaches, and in the front office. 135 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: And they're not ignoring it. It's not there. It's something 136 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: they're trying to dig into. 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there's an answer or like a solution, 138 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: and you say this is this is what's going on. 139 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: What I think is interesting is what you got from 140 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: Scott Boris And is this the type of thing that 141 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: that free agents are talking about? 142 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: Pop quais aj. What's America's number one meal kit? 143 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: That would be Hello Fresh, Scott. And it even works 144 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: for picky eaters like you. 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For free breakfast for life, go to 155 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: HelloFresh dot com slash free ft one free breakfast item 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: per box while subscription is active. That's free breakfast for 157 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 4: life just by going to HelloFresh dot com slash f 158 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: R E E F T. 159 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 160 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I think maybe we start from there of like, okay, 161 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: we know the dead Horrid addressed this topic. You were 162 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: there at Reglar last weekend. I had already heard some 163 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: of that, you know, grumbling or frustration. They're the one player, 164 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: so there is a psychological component at least to some 165 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: of this. And then Scott Boris and his associates, I mean, 166 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: they are always at games. They post up at Dodger 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Stadium kind of just off the dugout there in the 168 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: VIP seats behind home plate. So obviously I talked to 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger on Monday, then saw Scott and talked to 170 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: him about Bellinger's opt out decision, which is something that 171 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Cody said. I told Scott, I don't want to even 172 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: think about it until after the season. There's obviously still 173 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: like a chunk of season left that could impact that. 174 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: I think the biggest point from their perspective is that 175 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: Cody has removed himself or created distance from those really 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: two disappointing years with the Dodgers. But and in course 177 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: of kind of going through all of this of Cody's 178 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: attributes as a player and how he's been good but 179 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: not great. Wrigley Field came up, and I think that 180 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: is part of their analytical take on this situation. And 181 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: obviously Cody comes up because he's Scott's client, and he's 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: the one who you know, could come back for thirty 183 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: million next year or test free agency again. And it's 184 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: just and Scott called it unexplainable of how differently it's played. 185 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's gonna be the same way next year, 186 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: but it is very much something that the clubs are 187 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. 188 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean, there are theories. 189 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: That we could throw out there of like does Major 190 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: League Baseball change the baseballs here and there. I've never 191 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: really gotten a great answer on how like the video 192 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: boards have changed the way when comes off because you've 193 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: sort of you've been noticing this for a while, and 194 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's roughly a decade now of the video 195 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: board era. There should be a little more information on that. 196 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: And then you know, just climate change. I don't know 197 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: exactly how this fits into it, but it's been you know, 198 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: there are moments that in the clubhouse where they're like, 199 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: like that ball Patrick Wisdom hit, Yeah, summer of like 200 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: oh this is going you know, to Waveland and it's 201 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: caught in left field, and so like, I don't think 202 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: this is I don't think the Cubs are going to 203 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: become like Seattle or San Francisco as sort of like 204 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: this graveyard for hitters. But I don't know, Scott represents 205 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: the superstar hitters who are about to come free agents. 206 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever heard of like Juan Soto, 207 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo and those are all separate conversations, but it's 208 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: just like in a idea that sort of I think 209 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: we'll be kicking around for a while and just I 210 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: mean one more thing on Scott. People are going to 211 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: listen to this and say, oh, well he has an agenda, 212 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, everyone we talked to has an agenda, 213 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Like there's just happened to be on the player side, 214 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Like when we talk to Jed, when we talk to Council, 215 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: when we talk to. 216 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: Name any player in the clubhouse. 217 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: There's always some sort of like calculation here, and then 218 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: it's up to us and it's up to you as 219 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: the listeners and readers to kind of evaluate for what 220 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: it is. So of course, uh, Scott is going to 221 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: look at what happened at really of the field this 222 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: year and be like hmm, like what's. 223 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: Going on here? 224 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: And well, how does that impact Cody? But like, this 225 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: is not just a Bellinger thing. It's like what you said, 226 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: so hot of a topic of conversation in the front office, 227 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse and by the batting cage is like 228 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: this is this is very much on their minds. It's 229 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: just a weird split of like how they've gotten to 230 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: this point where there's scrambling to keep up in the 231 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: playoff phrase. 232 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah you brought up the video boards. 233 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: This is like there's also the sweet below us in 234 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: the press like below the press box that blox that 235 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: that used to be open, right, and that means wind 236 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: when it was blowing out could come through there and 237 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: that's not happening anymore. 238 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: And that I know that that's a big factor. 239 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: That that absolutely changes things as far as the wind 240 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: blowing out impacting the game, because that happened in Boston 241 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: as well. It used to be something like Fenway Park 242 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: was more open in the back and the wind used 243 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: to impact the ball at Fenway Park more. 244 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 245 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: It's just it's just you know, I'm not saying this 246 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: is a good or bad thing. It's just like these 247 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: suites and building out ballparks impact yeah, yeah, like there's 248 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: there's real impacts. There's real impact on the game on 249 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: these things. 250 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think what what's going to be fascinating. 251 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: To follow is is this going to impact how you 252 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: build a team? Right? Like Seattle has tried to think 253 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: through this for years. I think Seattle is the extreme case, right, 254 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: and they've they've talked about it and tried different things 255 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: for years to try and figure out how to get 256 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: the right offense. San Francisco is interesting, but I don't 257 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: think it's as like there's an issue there, but there 258 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: there's there's so many reasons what's going on in San 259 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: Francisco I think, I like, but Seattle is. 260 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: Is a weird case. 261 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: I don't think Wrigley is going to get there just 262 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: because this is we're not at that point yet. If 263 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: we get another couple of years of this, we're gonna 264 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: have to start talking about it more. 265 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: But it's just so odd to see happen. 266 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: I also think it's right now my my baseball senses, 267 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: my tendency is to say this is randomness. There's a 268 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: bit of randomness happening. There have been days where I've 269 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: noticed where I've gone, like I haven't been on the 270 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: road and I've been home, and I'm like, this would 271 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,359 Speaker 2: be a good day to play Wrigley. 272 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: On the road, you know. 273 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: So I think there's a little bit of randomness here, 274 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: But like this weekend was a perfect example of just like, 275 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: it's a nice, nice weather but not like blazing hot, 276 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: and it was blowing in, blowing. 277 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: In hard, and they had no chance. 278 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: I think it was almost a good thing for the 279 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: Cubs in a sense, because they would have lost those 280 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: games by blowouts the first two games because Stanton and 281 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: Judge at least hit balls that would have been a 282 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: mile out. Uh so, And I don't remember the Cubs 283 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: having very many of those moments over the weekend. It's 284 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: I think it's worth exploring. I think it's a real, 285 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: real situation. I just don't know what the answer is, 286 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: and I don't think the front office has an answer 287 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: right now. Outside of this is worth digging into, you know, 288 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: this is worth talking about. 289 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: This isn't something we're going to dismiss. Ultimately. 290 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: Does it change how they act in the off season, 291 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: how they try and build a lineup? I don't think 292 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: we're at that point yet, but it's certainly worth exploring. 293 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating. 294 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: I think unfortunately I missed the other day Craig Council 295 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: pregame session. 296 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: I was talking to Garrett. 297 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: Cole for that Jamison Toy own piece I wrote, and 298 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: he and Sully had a nice back and forth apparently 299 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: where where Sully asked about it and councils like do 300 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: you want us to build a team to predict the 301 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: weather for twenty twenty five? Like, how are we supposed 302 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: to do that? Which I think, you know, the council 303 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: can be a little jokey and sarcastic. 304 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, who better than our 305 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: guys Sully to get a sense of the history at 306 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: Rigley Field and how it has played over a huge 307 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: chunk of time and its reputation and no doubt that 308 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: things can change. I feel like, you know, I forget 309 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: exactly why, but Peco Park plays a little differently now. 310 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: I feel like that used to be kind of changed. 311 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: The walls, didn't they change the I thought they changed 312 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: the walls. 313 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, like. 314 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: Not saying the Cubs are going to change, but like 315 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: obviously Wrigley is a great place to play. Chicago is 316 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: a great city. You know, these deals come down to 317 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: years and dollars, but there is like this like kind 318 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: of drop of uncertainty that kind of makes you think, like, well, 319 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: if like one of the most powerfully agents in the 320 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: game is has this like at the front of his mind, 321 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: it does make you wonder of like if guys are 322 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: if you had someone like Soto who is on a 323 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trajectory, or you know, someone like Bryce 324 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: Harper previously, you know who could think about like you know, 325 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Cooper's town numbers and where to where he can get 326 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: those not easily, but like have a clear path towards it. 327 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I think that was part of the his hesitation with 328 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco. I mean there was a lot that went 329 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: into that in him choosing the Phillies, but that had 330 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: been part of like the public narrative of like, oh, 331 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: you go to San Francisco, like are you gonna be 332 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: able to put up those monster offensive seasons over and 333 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: over and over again? 334 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think. 335 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: Talking to Scott always you hear interesting stuff, and that 336 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you just quote everything verbatim or you know, 337 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: pretend that this is some sort of definitive story we 338 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: put up. But this is like you know, daily beat reporting, right, 339 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean you just kind of hear a couple of 340 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: things and someone says something that's surprising and interesting, and 341 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: then you kind of put some context around it, and 342 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: like there's always another story. 343 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: Tomorrow in the day after that. 344 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: And I really do look forward to digging into it. 345 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: You know. 346 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I was joking that, you know, we're gonna have to 347 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: do some some research on on this one and you know, 348 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: unveil our grand because conspiracy theory. You know, we can 349 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: do We'll have a set up like a room with 350 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: the it's always sunny in Philadelphia with you know, all 351 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: of our theories laid out against against the wall. But 352 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: for sure, just a just a interesting topic that you know, 353 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: really kind of came together all at once. 354 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I brought this up to Council in Texas opening days, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and. 355 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: And he he kind of joked with me about it, 356 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: like you should dig into that, like kind of like 357 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: making fun of the idea, half making fun of you know, 358 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: like I said, council gets a little sarcastic. 359 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: I did not expect it to become this big of 360 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: a topic. 361 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: I just I just thought my point was, regally is 362 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: not like this. It always blows out like Hitters Paradise, 363 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: Like it's a very odd ballpark, and it's gotten odd 364 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: over the past decade. Uh so, I and Council has 365 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: said that for the past couple of months. He brings 366 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: it up out of like out of nowhere, he'll bring 367 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: it up. It's a real thing. It's so weird that 368 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: it's impacted the team this this drastically this season. 369 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: But hey, things things happen, you know. And when I 370 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: say things happen, I don't know. 371 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't think the thing that's gonna happen is the 372 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: Cubs staying hot here and making a playoff run. I 373 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: will say, it's interesting that they've they've kept it, you know, kept. 374 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: The topic up for this long. 375 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how it how it's happened, because after 376 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: that homestand I was sure would be writing the obitu 377 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: obituary of this team by now, and it just hasn't happened. 378 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: We'll see what else happens while you're on the road, Patrick, 379 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: there that they have who do they have going Wednesday night? 380 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: They Wicks Okay, Wicks verse, someone who's struggling Bobby Miller. Yeah, 381 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: so maybe the offense stays hot. You know, Wix has 382 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: looked game for sure, if they win this game, if 383 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: you're looking at a chance for a very good road trip. 384 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: I know, weird things happen in Colorado, but still like 385 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: this team just looks like a different team on the road. 386 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 3: And then I don't know. 387 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen because I'm out 388 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: of the prediction game with this team because it what 389 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: we just discussed doesn't make sense to me, doesn't fully 390 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: make sense to me, and this team doesn't fully make 391 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: sense right now, so it's impossible to predict them. I 392 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: don't think they're terrible. I don't think they're great. So 393 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna shrug my shoulders and say, we'll see. 394 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: It comes to baseball and not making sense since eighteen 395 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: seventy six. 396 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: Exactly. 397 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: We'll be back to I think to maybe we'll be 398 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: back before the Colorado series, right, guys, just talk about 399 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: that and wrap up this Dodgers series. Thanks so much 400 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: for listening everyone. This is North Side Territory. Make sure 401 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: to rate, review and subscribe. 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