1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: The revolution has been televised, put on social media, newspapers, 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and put on podcasts such as USI and House. Gil 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: Scott Heron said it eloquently, you will not be able 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: to stay home, brother, You will not be able to 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: plug in, turn on and cop out. A seismic shift 6 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: has occurred across the world that hasn't inflamed a wide 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: squat of people. They have protested police brutality. In the 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: face of Flaton police brutality, doctor King said justice delayed 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: is not too often justice denied. Last week's peaceful protest 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: in Senior Valley Downtown LA in Hollywood, California, administration illustrations 11 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: it from I to this, speeches, songs and steep activists 12 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: painting on boarded up buildings to exemplify the spirit of 13 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: the movement. The crowd is getting larger and more insistent, 14 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: unlike the with Calcentric Police Union resting down Council member 15 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: man of Ardriacus By stating there was only one hundred 16 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: people speaking out against Produce brutality. This Saturday is the 17 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: first unhoused Black Lives Matter protests at Eco Park Lake 18 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: to unlign how our communities are targeted by racism. It 19 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: begins with neighborhood councils and business improvement districts being used 20 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: as a police pipeline to arrest, site and harass the 21 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: unhoused community, particularly many of the blacks. The instances of 22 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: force have been increased by twenty six percent. It is 23 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: stated even in the last episodes that the can the 24 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: state because they have more interaction with people that are 25 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: living on the streets or are displaced, and incidentally that 26 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: we have over forty percent of unhoused people that are 27 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: black men. It's meeting with the council member in your 28 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: district to discuss plans to deal with the unhoused black 29 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: person in your neighborhood. It's Starbucks in our community locking 30 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: me in Chinatown, Los Angeles from using the bathroom because 31 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: I possibly couldn't need to use the bathroom in such 32 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: a bathroom desert. I want to take a bird bathroom 33 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: in the bathroom that was said to me. Imagine the 34 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: indignity and the embarrassment that a Starbucks employee would say 35 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: to an unhoused member. Black lives matter too. When police, 36 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: park rangers, sheriffs, and bid are used to terrigorize, photograph, 37 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: antagonize black and housekeeping and white nimbies or liberal extolling 38 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: law in order or quality of life crimes. This episode 39 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: will discuss the protest with two on House Black men 40 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: and feature a former and the house transformer and the 41 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: challenges she faces. Please listen and let us meet in 42 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the light of understanding. This is Ceo Henderson from Widian 43 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: House and I've just ran across an exceptional painter here 44 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: with Black Lives Matter, and I just wanted to ask 45 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: him a few questions. What inspired you to do this? 46 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: You have a real talent us straight up us okay, 47 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: So what got you to get to do this? I 48 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: had a friends she told me about the idea and 49 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: reached out. She's saying some work I was doing already 50 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: in the community recently. Oh cool, And you know she 51 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: told me what was about. I couldn't turn that down. 52 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: How did you? How did you start painting? I mean, 53 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: because you know this is not important. You know, if 54 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I do this, it's gonna look like horrific. But you know, 55 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: how did you get this drout? What would have happened? 56 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: I've been shoot, been drawn since I was seven years 57 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: old at my grandma house. Man. Oh okay, and just 58 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: take it from there. I didn't honestly do nothing with 59 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Ark til twenty seventeen. So honestly, I'm still new to 60 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: the game. You can't. You can't be new to the 61 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: game seven classes yet, bro, so well, you know, you know, 62 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna need it our classes 63 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: the way you're doing it like here, I appreciate it. 64 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, what motivated you to do 65 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter? You know, I want all the 66 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: messages out here, but as a black man and as 67 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: a black artist, brother, like, that's what I want be 68 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: able to be. Like I don't know if you've seen 69 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: the dude signists passed the brother science said, I am 70 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a man like we ain't saying nothing bad for a 71 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of people trying to say all lives matter all 72 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: that we just need everybody. I understand, like our lives 73 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: don't matter to certain people. This point blank that excellently said. 74 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know what, I took 75 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: a picture of it. I wanted I'm going to put 76 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: you on my podcast and so you know your talent. 77 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: I wish you to Cortenu's success, and like I said, 78 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: keep it up. You know everyone has that role to 79 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: play in this movement and I see what yours is. 80 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, bro, Thank you very much. This is 81 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: THEO Henderson from Windy On House and I thank you 82 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: all for listening. Oh what's your name so I can 83 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: so people can follow your work? Dejen on Instagram at 84 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: d e z c j o N. And I know 85 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: that may sound wrong, but it's one on one. It's 86 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: the only one, the easy c j O N. This 87 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: is one of the artists activists here on the protest. 88 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening and maybe again meeting a 89 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: lot of understanding. Thank you very much for you Licid. 90 00:05:53,839 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: I love that. This is THEO Henderson from Widion Howes 91 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: and I'm here on another protest here on Sunday at 92 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Hollywood Vine. I just will stopped here. But he says 93 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: the black l g q p T lives matter as well, 94 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and I agree with this as Willian Howes also supports 95 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: this measure. And I have a gentleman here that I 96 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: didn't get your name. My name is Ceo Henderson. Uh 97 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: so what brought you out here today? Right? Well? What 98 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Bunton is night? I'm chired of you know the plague, 99 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: you know keep you know keeps doing what they're doing, 100 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: and especially it's doing what you know, hor blacks against 101 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: black people, especially when they're not in the cliremen. Some 102 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: of them are in jail now for like for a 103 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: long ass time while the other person gets so little, 104 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: and especially when they did the same exact crime. I 105 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: noticed you were in house or homeless. How long you've 106 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: been out here, because I've been I'm a homeless football 107 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I've been here for four months. Not four months, I mean, 108 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry four days, four days so far? Where were 109 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: you originally? I'm from New York City. Yeah, well, hi 110 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: from Chicago, and I have to tell you Chicago piece. 111 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Is that so? Yeah? Definitely? So what got you out 112 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: here to California? Well, I wanted to, you know, come 113 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: to the protest and you know, trying to start a 114 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: new life here and plus another things smoking some weed too, 115 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: but obviously, but other than that, just darning a new 116 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: life there. I was gonna ask you, for example, you 117 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: have LGBQ two. Are you in the rainbow orn? Yeah, 118 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm actually pansexual. Okay for the audience, so I can 119 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: be educated. I'm heterosexual. So I've heard of it, but 120 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what that means. What does it mean? 121 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: It means it really doesn't matter. It depends on the 122 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: person's personality, their soul, you know. Okay, so you're a 123 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: much more a spiritual sexual person. Yeah, okay, I gotcha. 124 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: So what does it For example, what would you like 125 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: to say to the mayor in order for the Black 126 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Lives Matter? Because they're talking about taking money from the 127 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: police and the police are mad about it. What would 128 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: you say? What's your thoughts on that? I think it's bad. 129 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: They should they should take the million away for them. 130 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: Where should they put the money somewhere? When I think, like, 131 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: give it to the people that mostly deserve it, especially 132 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: to the ones that you know that cops cast so 133 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: much greek, especially to family members that lost their loved 134 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: ones that that didn't do anything wrong. You know, I 135 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, how has the police? Has the 136 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: police harassed you out here? No? Not out here? No? 137 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: But but I have been arrested like like to for 138 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: good Like two of them was for good reasons, like 139 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: I was shoplifting for from much mane, just for food. 140 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: But the last two times was just for panhandling and 141 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: it was legal where I was. I was in Alabama, 142 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: in Florida and and one for quote unquote trespassing and 143 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: I was allowed to sleep where I was, but I 144 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: was kicked out and was charged for for trespassing and 145 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: like pandhandling twice. Wow, I've had the trespassing when I 146 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: sleep in a different place or something like that. That's 147 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: one of the many pitfalls on how people have. What's 148 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: the best way for us to help you. I think 149 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: more communication, especially when it comes to homeless people, right like, 150 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: get to know them and don't just like, oh, shoot 151 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: it like they're druggies. All of them are just straight 152 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: up druggies, but not all of them are. You know. 153 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: That's what the new generation needs, like a lot like 154 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: the older generation. We all need to communicate more, especially 155 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: during these trying times. Well, thank you very much for that. 156 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I really I appreciate you taking the time out of 157 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: your schedule to do this. This is THEO Henderson from 158 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: Day in House. I'm here at the protests on Hollywood 159 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and Vine Sunday, June seventh. There's more to follow. On Saturday, 160 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: June thirteenth, Eco Park it will be hosting the first 161 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: unhoused Black Lives Matter route and other dudes an unhoused 162 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: band was stabbed by a house driver in San Diego. 163 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: The young house man was walking in the third Avenue 164 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: and C Street when a vehicle started following him. The 165 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: driver jumped out and slashed the victim. The house driver fled. 166 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, June seventeenth, the second of the five part 167 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: series of Villian House Meeting and the Light of Understanding 168 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Zoom Town Hall Meeting will take place. Details of follow 169 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Lads and San Antonio police officer who handed a Feca 170 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: sandwich to an unhoused man wins his termination appear. Lane County, 171 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Oregon will be clear to clear out unhoused or houseless 172 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: shelters at the Lane County Fairgrounds and the Memorial Building 173 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: due to emergency funds have run out. Starting at eight 174 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: o'clock am. They will be evicted from the safe place 175 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: the unhoused reside. Clara Kirk, operated shelters for more than 176 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: thirty years, have died. Known as the mother of Inglewood, 177 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: She's dead at six seventy nine. She is recognized for 178 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: her work for mattered women at Trity. She received the 179 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: President's Service Award by former Bill Britton. And this is 180 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: unhouse leading. So you were saying about the emergent therapy. 181 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: You moved back to your home. What happened? Why did 182 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: you move? I moved back home because first and foremost, 183 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: I went home for justification at first, and then my 184 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: family orn dire they needed me. My sister got arrested. 185 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: My Yeah, my sister got arrested. My mom was dealing 186 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: with health issues, and my sister had the time have 187 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: four kids. So I kind of had to step up 188 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: and be the aunt, you know, and I couldn't be 189 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: who I was living out there and doing that. And 190 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: then my sister got out and I was like, I 191 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: need to do things for my own life. So I 192 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: moved back here and lived in a place but also 193 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: going attending LACC, and through serious of events, I got 194 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: kicked out of that place because they found out that 195 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: I was queer, And yeah, how did you cope with it? 196 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Because how did I cope? At first? I was, I mean, 197 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: I was on survival mode. I wanted to keep trying 198 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: to go to school. The thing is, when I came 199 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: to LACC, I found a group of friends who were 200 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: just really they allowed me to be me. Like at first, 201 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: I'd be like pretend to be a straight man, and 202 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: they'd be like we no, no, we don't think you know, 203 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, yeah, I am, Praise Jesus. You know, 204 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: back then I was in the Christianity. I was not 205 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: knocking anybody's faith. But I'm no longer Christian, But back 206 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: then I was super Christian and trying to live both 207 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: you know world. And then sooner or later, the feeling 208 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: started coming off, and then I started realizing that I 209 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a man, that I am a woman, that I've 210 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: always felt this way. And then the friends that I 211 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: had were like, we knew at the moment when we 212 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: met you. And then I met a trans woman who 213 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I actually became housemates with it. Yeah, so when I 214 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: got kicked out of that place, I actually moved directly 215 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: into this woman's house and I was kind of like 216 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: her caretaker. She had a bunch of underlying health issues, 217 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: some mental issues as well, mental illness issues as well, 218 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, there was a lot of things that happened 219 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: between us and I became homeless again. How did that? 220 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: How did they make you feel? Because I know when 221 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: they second time I became on the street that I 222 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I was definitely like, how am I 223 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: going to survive? What do I need to do? Like 224 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: it was hard. It was definitely hard. And then I'm 225 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: going to fast forward it a little bit because the 226 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: last time I became I was homeless. The last time, 227 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: which was my last time becoming homeless was because I 228 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: lived at a place that was temporary. The guy was like, 229 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: you stay here. It was very much similar to where 230 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I live here where you can't have a guest. You 231 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: can't have a guest for more than two months. Wow, 232 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't have a guest for more than 233 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: like if someone, I can't have someone staying with me 234 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: because it's subsidized, right, And I had no friend like that. 235 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: Like my friends that were like supportive in one way, 236 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: they all lived with their parents, so they couldn't support me. 237 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: You know. Had one friend who was like lived right 238 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: down the street from the LACC. She was like, you 239 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: could stay with me, So I stayed with her for 240 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: a few months. Then I stayed with another dude for 241 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: a few months. And then after that I got kicked out, 242 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: like asked to leave, got kicked out right and it 243 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: was cold. It was during the Christmas season, so I 244 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: went back. I didn't actually go back home. I went 245 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: to live with my cousins who ended up pitting me 246 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: in their garage. And it's cold in LA, but where 247 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm from in the Heigh Desert, it's colder. It snows 248 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: there SI. So I would be like, I felt like 249 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: they treated me like so I was like, maybe I 250 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: should just go back to LA and go back to 251 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: LACC and try to finish getting my degree. Just focus 252 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: on shit I need to do. I remember watching this 253 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: documentary when I was a student and like in between Houses, 254 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: and it was and it was about skid row and 255 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: about folks in skid row, and I was like, and 256 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I remember someone saying on there that like they didn't 257 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: start doing drugs or being an alcoholic until they became home. 258 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: Very true. I was before I'm gonna be real, I 259 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: would never. I didn't smoke lead, I didn't. I hardly drink, 260 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: like maybe drink on my birthday and on holiday, you know. 261 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: But when I became homeless, that's when I started drinking. 262 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: You know. You know, I don't want to be instant 263 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: uh et to jack for you? Did you? Because I noticed, 264 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: like because I interviewed cutting the cutters like that, did you? 265 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: I started cutting? I started cutting when I was fourteen, 266 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: The real, honest to God's truth. Uh. I was hanging 267 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: out with a bunch of goths and punks and people 268 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: that thought they were vampires. And then there was this 269 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: hot guy that came over and he wanted to drink 270 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: my blood and I thought he was cute and there 271 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: was a razor blades. I was like, here and it's 272 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: a very sexual thing. Let's be real, but I noticed 273 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the feeling I got from cutting. It's like kind of 274 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: like why people get tattoos, like I got tattoos now 275 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: or piercings. You know, it's the same thing. It's like 276 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: there's actually a scientific reason because when there's a pain, 277 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: it really sense a chemical in your body that numbed you. 278 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Tethers and really since endorphins kind of like sex. Okay, okay, yeah, 279 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean why do you think people do it? Just 280 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: like why do you think people are tatted it up? 281 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: It's it's like being real. I stopped cutting when I 282 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: got my first tattoo, and that was just last year. Yeah, 283 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: like because it's the same, it's the same feeling. You know, 284 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm mama and so yeah, so getting back to the story, 285 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: I you know, so I didn't have no and back 286 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: then I started getting involved with this this group called 287 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: Jenner Just LA, which they are. They're in LA and 288 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: they're based They seek to talk about the issues that 289 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: trans women, specifically trans women of color, well, trans people 290 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: as a whole, but trans woman of color specifically go through. 291 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Just to let you know, just I do believe that 292 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: there's an edge a line of different classism and like 293 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: supremacy a right, but it does add to your oppressions 294 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: more you have, Like if you're disabled, you have more oppression. 295 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: If you're someone that has some felonies, you have more 296 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: of a nopression. If there's if you're somebody that's uh 297 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: had ties to a gang, or you have a Muslim name, 298 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: you have more of a noppression, right or like I 299 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: want to introduce from the perspective because people forget I 300 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: could be black and straight and house, but I am black, 301 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: straight and on house, and I still have a different dimension. 302 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: Just like one of my friends I was mentioning earlier 303 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: about she's queer, but she's on house. She could still 304 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: be queer but on house. There's a new dimension to 305 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the challengdar, especially because nowhere is safe for transmuger people. 306 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: Nowhere it's so like I was going to tell you, 307 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: and black women have higher rate of transqueer being killed exactly. 308 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm just going to say that every every thirty two 309 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: hours are transperson, it's murder, and specifically even in the 310 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: COVID era, which I was like, when COVID shut down everything, 311 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: I thought, at lease, there will not be any murder. Yes, 312 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot of trans women of color and Puerto Rico 313 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: in in Brazil and vehicle like they're they're getting murdered. 314 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: And that's only because we know about it, right, that's 315 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: only because people are talking about it. When usually when 316 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: they find our bodies and they look at our genitalia. 317 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Let's be real weak based gender on genitalia, which is 318 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: not good. They oh, this person is a man, so 319 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: a man died, right, versus like this person hearing their 320 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: stories from the people are like this person lived as 321 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: a woman, they were a woman, or this person was 322 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: a man they lived at the man, or this person 323 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: didn't live as any gender, right, So like which is 324 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: a construct, just like race, classes and race and gender 325 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: are all constructs. You don't know what it construct is, 326 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: look it up. There's no difference between all three of 327 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: us when it comes to our ethnicity at the table, right, 328 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: there is a difference in the way the world treats 329 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: us so because we bought into that lot. Right. So 330 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: getting back to my store that so like, so I 331 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: got involved and even they couldn't help me as much 332 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: and it was just like I was like, what do 333 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I do? Then? So I was like and then one 334 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: night I'm gonna be real. I was hanging out with 335 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the parentson that was super privileged. Speaking up being black. 336 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: I used to have a friend who was from Europe. 337 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: He was from Holland, he was black, he was gay. 338 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: His mom would send him five thousand dollars a month. 339 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: And I remember one night like I was like, hey, 340 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: just let me go to your house just for that 341 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: night because it's super cold and in the morning, I'll 342 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: go to a shelter. And he was like no. I 343 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: remember him like sternly saying no, and I was like, 344 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: m and I was like, come on, please, just I 345 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: mean it's really cold. You don't say if you're my friend, 346 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: why are you? Like I understand if your place of 347 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: the mess, you can go clean it and I'll meet you. 348 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: Just tell me where it's at and I can walk there. Blah. 349 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Blah blah, and they just sternly said no, and like 350 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: we sat there for two hours. Yes, I mean no, please, no, no, 351 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: and I finally just was like, okay, oh well, so 352 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: I stayed up all night. I left him alone, stayed 353 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: up all night, and then I came to skid Row 354 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: and I did what I had to do to get 355 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: myself in that program. I'm gonna be real. When he 356 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: said no, when he would just say no, no, no, like, 357 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: I was like why. And there are some people I've 358 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: had to say no too, But it's because the rules. 359 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Here's be real. And number two, I've had them in 360 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: my place and some violence or some things have happened 361 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: and I just don't trust them, you know. So that's different. 362 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, So after that, I just lived at that shelter, 363 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: which was great. It was great for me and in 364 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot of ways because I did find a little 365 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: corner of black people that I was super close with, 366 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: started coming out of my shell a lot more and 367 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: then doing what I needed to do to get here. 368 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: And I got here in the June of twenty twelve, 369 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: and I've been thankful, but it's been like it's been 370 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: a it's been a mess in a lot of ways too. 371 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: What prepelled you to do a metal band? I'm punk 372 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: in okay, yeah so black metal even though they conversation. 373 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm in a band I like. I like 374 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: all kinds of music. I do tend to go lean 375 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: more towards rock, but I like all kinds of music. 376 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: I'm like beyond like nol Kim, I like Nickman. I 377 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: grew up on Black Street. I grew up on like Aja, 378 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, I grew up on to mea Brandy Monica, 379 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, all that good stuff. But I okay, I'll 380 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: talk about that. So one night I was dealing with 381 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: some mental health issues and I really wanted to cut 382 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: me and a friend had a fight, and this friend 383 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: is a trans woman like myself, and I was really 384 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: I looked up there until like I was really really sad, 385 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: you know. And so I had a friend who's also 386 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: in an all black punk band called you pay Us 387 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: All Black all Fami, which means non mal a punk 388 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: band coffee. You pay us. One of them I'm really 389 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: close with, and they told me anytime I want to 390 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: hang out, to hit them up because I would post 391 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: all on my Facebook. Anyone want to hang out? Anyone 392 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: want to hang out, and like they're like, they had 393 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: just got this studio in Chinatown, and I was like, 394 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: can I can I come over please? Like I'm I 395 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: just had a fight with this person. I don't want 396 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: to be alone. I'm drunk, and they're like, let me 397 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: see something. Five minutes later, I get a text you 398 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: can come through and I was like, great, but I 399 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: don't have any money to go, you know, because I poor. 400 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: They're like, what's your address? Give them my address. They 401 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: sent it for me and went to there. I got 402 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: there and I told them what happened, and I was 403 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: I was kind of sober up around that time, and 404 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: they're like, well, you're this person said Cello, you know 405 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: how you like to listen to rock music. Well tonight 406 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna make rock music. And I'm like, I don't 407 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: want to do anything right now. I just want to 408 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: cry and drink some more. And so I sat on 409 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: the couch in the studio and actually, can I talk 410 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: about for twenty years now? Yes, that's fine. Argulate we 411 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: were for because someone educated us before. So for four 412 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: twenty from what I understand, is the Marijuana Day. Day 413 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: of Marijuana Minute, celebrities go out and make a span. 414 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, but I also like meant just talk about 415 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: we go ahead, go ahead, let me do your thing. Okay, 416 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: So I smoke. I smell. So I smoked because the 417 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: chronic pain and it helps me sleep and I deal 418 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: with the tamia. If people are on my Facebook, they 419 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: see me at and I at three or four in 420 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: the morning, I really am. I'm yeah. And so we 421 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: smoked and then we just kind of got into like 422 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: a little thing and it was really cute, and I 423 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: was I was actually falling asleep. I was actually falling asleep. 424 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, you want to start making music. 425 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm good, I'll just go home. 426 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: They're like, come on, what do you really want to do? 427 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: And I saw the mic and I just took the 428 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: mic and we just I was like, and one person 429 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: was on the druns. Yes, the person had a guitar. 430 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: The other person had to play guitar, and they ate 431 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: and we just formed. So that's how we formed. Yeah, 432 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: So if someone wants to go through one of the 433 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: things that you've gone through a lot of different dilemmas 434 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: and saumas and things like that, what would you tell 435 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: the younger generation if you could about how to cope 436 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: with these kind of things that you went through. To 437 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: be honest, I'm still learning. I mean, like, I won't 438 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: tell people to find it there. I'm not into that. 439 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't think therapy helps it any everyone. I do 440 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: think the artistic expression for me, like finding it out 441 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: at is super good. I mean, I one of the 442 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: reasons I like doing the punk thing. Why I like, 443 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: I've always liked the same. You know, it's because I 444 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: scream a lot, and I love screaming. It gets you, 445 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: It gets the emotion and gets the anger, gets the 446 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: frustration out. And to get to your point. Your other 447 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: question about why punk specifically is because punk, just like 448 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: hip hop, just like every other genre, was founded by 449 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: black people, and it was funded with the anti capitalist, 450 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: anti white supremacist, anti establishment in mind. And that's what 451 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: I am very much. So I hate the police. I 452 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: don't trust it. I posted this on the other day, 453 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe it and going to the city officials 454 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: and holding them accountable because this system is created to 455 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: kill black and indigenous people. So guess what, I'm not 456 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna go to you if you have a gun in 457 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: your hand, I'm not gonna go to your safe. Please, 458 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: mister killer, don't kill me. I'm gonna find a way 459 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: to like get that gun out of your hand, like 460 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: take the power back. As Ragel gets the machine says, 461 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: got to take the power back anyway. So I think 462 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: about that, I think about getting involved, how I got 463 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: involved a lot, Like I do want to say there 464 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: are some things I do believe in and that that 465 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: gave me hope. Like when we were camping outside. I 466 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: was camping outside with indigenous people to protest, you know, 467 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: against Trump's you know as taking babies away from you know, 468 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: their parents at the border or like sending people back 469 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: to there, which guess what, we're in Mexico, y'all, this 470 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: is not there's not white people owned. This is Mexico. 471 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: So we got to remember that they just come into 472 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: their land anyway, it's native lands, indigenous land. I believe 473 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: in fighting for that, so I believed in doing that. 474 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: I also believe in going and causing people to think 475 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: about why we're doing certain things. So like even when 476 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: black lives matter, we're camping out outside of city, y'all, 477 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: I was like, y'all, I would go there. I didn't 478 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: believe in replacing one police commissioner. For another, I don't 479 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: believe in that. I believe in like why are we here, y'all, Like, 480 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: are y'all really about something? Because like we got to 481 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: hit them where it hurts, or like we got to 482 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: like form our own community based solutions and think about 483 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: transformative and restorative justices which are indigenous and black, and 484 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: stop relying on the systems that are killing us. They 485 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: are killing us right now during the COVID you know situation, 486 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: it's predominantly black and brown people that are dying, and 487 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm naming Indigenous people and that as well, because they 488 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: are not getting the help they need because they are 489 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: like because of the fucking oh my gosh, the way 490 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: that white supremacy lies and a lot of Native and 491 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Indigenous people and slaves. It's horrible. It's horrible, and so 492 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: we got to fight back. That's why I would say 493 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: daming people fight back, and if you can't fight back, 494 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: find someone who you can be with that will teach 495 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: you to fight back in certain ways and find an 496 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 1: outlet well fit. One of the other questions is is 497 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you what pronouns would you like? 498 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Because I no, no, no, she, she, and you shouldn't 499 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: say what pronouns would you like to say? What pronounces 500 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: do you use? What pronounces do you use? My apologies, 501 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: she I do go by there because I also so 502 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: for those that don't know, I also identify it as indigenous. 503 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: And there are some indigenous cultures that have what's called 504 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: two spirit. Two spirit are folks who are not male 505 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: nor they're female. They are born born with any and 506 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: all right. They are healers. They're they're instead of like 507 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: being the ones that are criminalized and demonized, they're the 508 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: ones that are the healers. They're the ones that you 509 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: can go to to like get to seek out help. 510 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: There's actually a beautiful, a beautiful story that I heard. 511 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: So men and women and the two spirits lived in harmony, right, 512 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: and then men and women started fighting. Uh So men 513 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: went one way, women went another way. So the two 514 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: spirits got together. They're like, we need to keep this 515 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: together to like heal our land because we need to 516 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: keep producing. Right. So they went to the men and 517 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: talked to the man for the women, and they bring 518 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: them back to the circle. And they went to the 519 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: women and bring them back to the circle for the men. 520 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: And they're like and they mediated and everything was good. Right, 521 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: So that's it's just a perfect balance of both, right. 522 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: What else? Yeah, So yeah, but when you when you 523 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: ask that, I mean just to let you know things 524 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: are always changing. I see you that you tried to like, 525 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. It's not like that, but 526 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Correct. Everything's always changing, like everything. There's 527 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: some words that I use that I are still like, 528 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, wait, like I'm trans, y'all get mad 529 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: at me, you know, but like things are always things 530 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: are always changing. I do want to say something that, like, 531 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: I think for me in terms of living in skid 532 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: row and in terms of fighting back against the police, 533 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: fighting back against violences too, right, I think the biggest 534 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: support that I've had has been from community, from people 535 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: that either look like me or people that they haven't 536 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: looked like me, and I mean like they're transling black 537 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: or they're cramp black, and they're doing their best to 538 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: like fight back against these oppressive systems. So yeah, I 539 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: think signing community is super big, which brings me a 540 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: question is what can because I have to say this 541 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: because I am a black man and I think it's 542 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: important to save this is there is a community in 543 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: a black community that I disagree with is that they 544 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: believe there are some conspiracy against black men to change 545 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: him or feminize him and things like that. And I 546 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: need to speak out and be clear on this because 547 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 1: I want your perspective on this, because I disagree, because 548 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: nobody's going to put a gun to your head and 549 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: say you're going to be this. So let's let's let's 550 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: talk about that elephant and rom theory. So ho tap this? Yes, 551 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: I go back to the Dugan tribe of Nigeria. One 552 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: of their goddess I can't say, though, I mean it's both. 553 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: One of their gods that they prayed to before colonization 554 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: was a statue that had tits. Can I say, Hallas, 555 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: I need to say it had tits and a dick. 556 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: That's one of the gods that they prayed to before colonization. 557 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: So I think I think, yes, we need to challenge masculinity. 558 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: I think yes, we need to challenge ma toxic masculinity, 559 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: especially because men don't just kill trans women. They killed 560 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: fish gender women. Like four years ago, I remember, in 561 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: a span of one week, two black trans women had 562 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: died and then another assist woman in New York was 563 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: cat called, which means the dude hit on her, A 564 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: black dude hit on her. He was like, hey, mama, 565 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: what's up. She she didn't return it, you know, and 566 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: he burned her. He burned her. So we have to 567 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: challenge the masculinity that that goes onto that, we have 568 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: to challenge the like the ideals that like the idea 569 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: of the family that they're still trying to make. Just 570 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: it's the same idea that white supremacy dam us, but 571 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: they're doing it, you know, they're doing One of the 572 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: things also that bugs mean is that we could advance technologically, 573 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: we can advance morally, but yet somehow masculinity just stays 574 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: in this fossil or fossilized viewpoint, and they that's I 575 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: think it's much more damaging to people, particularly people of color, 576 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: because we drink into that white supremacist idea that masculinity 577 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: is only one linear way I believe, so, oh yeah, yeah, definitely. 578 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: I also think that like naming things as masculine and feminine, 579 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: it's also a thing that was given to us by 580 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: white supremacy. Justly real one of the things and said 581 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: was one of the first violenceists that they taught us 582 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: and colonization is gendering. It's gendering people, right, and it's 583 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: to make classes of people, to make some people above 584 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: others and some people below here than others. That's why 585 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: you have, you know, men like, for the longest time, 586 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: if a woman was in an abusive situation with the men, 587 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: she cannot divorce it. It was seen as a thing 588 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: in the Catholic Church, right, and even in a lot 589 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: of other religions. But I think we have to challenge 590 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: those things. I think that I think that men have 591 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: to see their liberation tied up in women's liberation and 592 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: in trans women's liberation and in general nonperforming people's liberation 593 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: in order for them to get free. Because that's why 594 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: a lot of brown people are starting to say black 595 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: lives matter now, because they recognize that once we got 596 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: to work from the bottom up, we can't work for 597 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: the top. We can't say white, we can't say white 598 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: lives matter, are all lives matter? We have to say 599 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: that the bottom of the bottom is black folks, right, 600 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: And that's because anti blackness is global exactly. Yes, So 601 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: you go, you know, the darker you are, the harder 602 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: it is. So if you're looking more like an indigenous 603 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: African or an indigenous person, it's going to be harder 604 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: for you. So we have to work from the bottom 605 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: the straight up. The same thing with gender, same thing 606 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: with ability, same thing with class, same thing, with all 607 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: the things. We have to work up. See who's the 608 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: most she's the most marginalized of us, and with our 609 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: way up, and see our liberation tied up in their liberation, 610 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: because if they don't get free, we don't get for you. 611 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: That's very well said. This is Ceo Henderson from Wiedian House, 612 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: and I want to understand that no matter what boat 613 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: you came in under, were all under the same boat. 614 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: And we're all in the same boat now because of 615 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: the fact that what the fact of the fact of 616 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 1: the matter is, white supremacy leaves a stench on everything, 617 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: no matter how we can phrase it. But I think 618 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: he was going to say something else. I just I 619 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: just like I said, black lives matter and brown people 620 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: need to rise up. And I think in saying that 621 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: we are in the same boat, it does kind of 622 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: erase the fact that black people are the ones that 623 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: are dying. The indigenous people are the ones that are dying. 624 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: So yes, white white supremacy and capitalism affects us all, 625 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: especially right now, and we are all like seeking the 626 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: government assistance, and blah blah blah. Who's not getting the 627 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: government and system? Who's not getting these help? What's going 628 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: on with like indigenous communities that are suffering, what's going 629 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: on with Black people that are dying? Literally, black people 630 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: are dying. Trans women that are doing sex work are 631 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: still doing sex work. Black six women were doing sex work, 632 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: are still doing sex want to survive. While people who 633 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: work normal jobs and I hate to say normal, but 634 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm just for normans. I know this is the yeah, 635 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: but I just want to acknowledge that, yes, while we're 636 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: all kind of struggling, there are different struggles that have 637 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: a different different ways, and there are people that are 638 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: more like I said that, I hate to term more, 639 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: but that's all we have that are more marginalized. Black 640 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: and brown people are getting like, look at the statistics 641 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: right now. And if you want to look at my music, 642 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: my band's name is you guys suck like real heart, 643 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. Thanks. Also, I'll just leave the 644 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: link on the Yes, please please do we have a 645 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: band camp. We have music out, so yeah, thank you, again, 646 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: it's my hope that we need in a lot as 647 00:41:50,200 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: understanding and thank you all for listening the bo Henderson 648 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: from Wading in the House. I hope you enjoyed this episode. 649 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: This episode touched on the issues that are pertinent and 650 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: germane to our humanity. Whether we are are trans, un housed, 651 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: and any other in and in between, we are human beings. 652 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: Black lives matter. It's more than just the house blacks 653 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: that we're protesting for. We're protesting for whatever shape and 654 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: whatever condition that we are in that we demand that 655 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: police violence stop. Police violence is usually more prevalent within 656 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: impoverished African Americans, but it happens in all strata of 657 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: economic circumstance for black people. But one thing I notice 658 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: which we don't cover is the ung housed communities voices 659 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: when we deal with police violence, twenty six percent increase 660 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: of use of force has been used against the unhoused, 661 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: according to the Los Angeles Times. They are spoken to 662 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: police commanders who advocate for this is stating that the 663 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: more interactions police have with unhoused people, the chances of 664 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: use of force increases. So consider that, if you will, 665 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: when you join the neighborhood Council's Viaz and the other 666 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: activists kind of things against unhoused people. People who conceive 667 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: black lives matter for someone as a family guy that 668 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: has a house or her job, or seems act that 669 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: they're angelic beyond reproach, but they lose their compassion and 670 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: they concern if they see an unhoused person. They usually 671 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: meet them is with the terms of criminality they're mentally ill, 672 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: or their drug addicts or something that's sinister, or a child, 673 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: a predator or whatever. To stify their own biases and 674 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: hatreds against unhoused people, they will use the terms that 675 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: they are concerned, they are concerned about quality of life. 676 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: But the long and short of it is they disdain 677 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: poor people. They believe it's poor person's fault that they 678 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: don't have a job, or they can't get out of 679 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: the situation, or they like being there. And if you 680 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: follow into that kind of thinking, it is well worth 681 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: time for you to re examine those prejudices. I just 682 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: recently saw a Ava de Verney's movie on Netflix of thirteenth, 683 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: and it extrapolates on these very points most eloquently. I 684 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: have from my own personal experience, can tell you that 685 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: these things are a daily occurrence. I become uncomfortable when 686 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: I see police officers drive by. A couple of nights ago, 687 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: sitting there at the bus stop enjoying my frozen yogurt, 688 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: a police officer drove by intentionally to antagonize me by 689 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: flashing his lights in my face. It's the symbol lives 690 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: that we see you and we are watching you. This 691 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: microaggression is a part of, part and parcel of the 692 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: unhoused experience and the unhoused Black experience. All it takes 693 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: is a Nimby or a Karen to call and have 694 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: me taken care of or removed, or even shot dead, 695 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: or even my worst nightmare, have someone's knee on my neck. 696 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: This is THEO Henderson from Weedie and House. I thank 697 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: you all for listening, and I truly hope that we 698 00:45:35,440 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: meet in the light of understanding. To ben't going to 699 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: test boy, say no never. You haven't got to beg 700 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: no T no ten, say no never. Why fucking bird? 701 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: I never watch