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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad, starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. Let's get into the

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Speaker 3: story of the week. So this first story is a

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Speaker 3: little shocking to me. Patrick Mahomes's father, who is the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs quarterback going to the Super Bowl this weekend. His father,

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Speaker 3: who's a former MLB pitcher, has been arrested for the

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Speaker 3: third time for duy. So he was arrested on Saturday

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Speaker 3: night and released Sunday after posting a ten thousand dollars bond.

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Speaker 3: He was smiling in the mugshot, which I always find

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Speaker 3: kind of eerie. He was arrested for suspicion of duy

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Speaker 3: while driving in Texas. His first DUI was in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and eight. His second occurred in twenty eighteen, to

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Speaker 3: which he had a sentence of forty days that he

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Speaker 3: served the time on the weekends between February of twenty

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Speaker 3: nineteen and February twenty twenty. Don't you think that's interesting

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Speaker 3: they let some people do their time on the weekends

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Speaker 3: instead of just consecutively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just the way that all the news stories are

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Speaker 1: written about this. It's just like, oh, let's just not

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Speaker 1: really state the facts. Okay, this guy's an alcoholic and

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Speaker 1: he has a problem, and it just I have like

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Speaker 1: a certain distaste and hatred for drunk drivers. It really

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Speaker 1: drives me nuts because they're I mean, forty percent of

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Speaker 1: traffic deaths are caused by alcohol, forty percent of them.

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Speaker 1: It's not taken as seriously as it should be. And

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Speaker 1: the only people, unfortunately, that care, are those that a

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Speaker 1: family member has died or a great friend of theirs

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Speaker 1: has died as a result of this. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: so he's been arrested three times and now he's up

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Speaker 1: for jail time and all that at this point, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're saying, under Texas law, he faces two

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Speaker 3: to ten years in prison because this will be his

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Speaker 2: So I don't I have no problem with that. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I have no problem. That's very simple

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with it at all, and I

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Speaker 3: think it should be a more severe punishment. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's going to serve anything, or if he does,

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Speaker 3: it'll be very limited.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree, and I think it's messed up that

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Speaker 1: famous people and rich people get special treatment. But do

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Speaker 1: you know that they've done a study and found that

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Speaker 1: people that drive drunk, they've probably done it about eighty

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Speaker 1: times before before they even got caught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not.

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Speaker 1: Like this guy just so happened to drink and drive

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Speaker 1: three times and get caught.

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Speaker 3: He had an open can of beer in his car.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who does that. Their family has a lot

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Speaker 3: of controversy around this time last year. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you know, but Patrick Mahomes's brother, so this guy's

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Speaker 3: other son. I believe he's a YouTube star, but he

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Speaker 3: was arrested in late February last year with three felony

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Speaker 3: So they're just always having controversy. And then this other

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Speaker 3: it's kind of not fair to him because doing press

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Speaker 3: conferences this week leading up to the Super Bowl, they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: your dad got another do uy, and he's just like,

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Speaker 3: this is a family matter, and I'm trying to worry

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Speaker 3: about what I'm doing this weekend, not my loser dad

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Speaker 3: continuously getting d UI. So it's kind of weird, but

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Speaker 3: this guy was an MLB pitcher. He was on a

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Speaker 3: when he should be taking the time to celebrating his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it just makes me so mad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so bad in America that a

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Speaker 1: that's how frequently it happens. And I just think I

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is his third time. I know.

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Speaker 1: There's also statistics that even if you take away their

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Speaker 3: But if you.

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Speaker 1: Know anyone that drinks and drives, you should really try

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Speaker 3: That you can do. No certainly, and you know it

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Speaker 3: just I have no sympathy for people that do it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a horrible judgment call, and you just

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Speaker 3: really if you get caught with it one time, like

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Speaker 3: if you've been caught three times, But if you get

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Speaker 3: reevaluate what's going on that's causing you to have this

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's important to mention too, because most

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Speaker 1: Most people in the world don't have bank accounts filled

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to do their job, and that can be

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Speaker 1: and say, Hey, I have a problem and I need

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Speaker 1: but most people we know who also drink often don't

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Speaker 3: That's how it should act.

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Speaker 1: But when you're a famous actor or not in this case,

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Speaker 1: you're never going to learn your lesson because there's really

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Speaker 1: no concept sequaces unless he goes to jail, which would

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Yeah, And I worked with somebody about

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Speaker 3: ten years ago that was twenty one, made a really

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Speaker 3: So It's something I think people need to learn from,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some other celebrity news.

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Speaker 3: So super sad country singer Toby Keith has died. He

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Speaker 3: was only sixty two years old. In the fall of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, he was diagnosed with stomach cancer. He

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Speaker 3: He seemed to have up and downs with it, where

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Speaker 3: he was had worse times and then he was going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stomach cancer is a really it's one of

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Speaker 1: until it's too late. A lot of times the symptoms

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Speaker 3: But back in the day, it used to be a.

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Speaker 1: Combination of smoking an alcohol that was number one cause

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Speaker 1: it's becoming more and more common that being infected with

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Speaker 1: an organism or bacteria called H. Pylori, which is known

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Speaker 1: So if you are concerned about you really should never

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Speaker 3: So leading into this next story, King Charles has also

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Speaker 3: Okay, So he's seventy five years old, he went to

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Speaker 3: having a large prostate checked out. The firm has now

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Speaker 2: So let's talk.

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Speaker 1: About first why he was there in the first place. So,

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Speaker 1: your prostate is a gland that sits underneath well, in men,

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Speaker 2: So what they do is they could treat it.

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Speaker 1: You go to the hospital and they do this procedure

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Speaker 1: called the TERP which is a transerrethral prostate resection, So

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Speaker 1: they basically go up inside the urethra and scoop some

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Speaker 3: of this. So maybe it wasn't the most tasteful way

441
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Speaker 3: to approach it, but what else were they going to do.

442
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: Now everybody's talking about We're talking about it. It's in

443
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Speaker 3: the headline everywhere, and it is bringing some type of awareness.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't even believe that any person that

445
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Speaker 1: actually had cervical cancer would be against this. I think

446
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: the only person that she potentially could have hurt in

447
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: this situation is herself. She didn't hurt anybody, Like, yeah,

448
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: she you know, it doesn't hurt anyone, And anyone that

449
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: has cervical cancer probably would say that they wish they

450
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: knew more, they wish they had a vaccine, or they

451
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: wish they were getting paps more regularly. Like I don't

452
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Speaker 1: know what they would say, but I doubt that they

453
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Speaker 1: would have anything to say against this.

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Speaker 2: It is when you.

455
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Speaker 3: Reel it back, it's kind of admirable to tank your

456
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Speaker 3: entire career potentially to raise awareness about a cause you're

457
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Speaker 3: passionate about. So when I look at it that way,

458
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Speaker 3: I think she did a really good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I do tell I'm not mad about it. All right,

460
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: let's get into freak accidents. I I have some thoughts

461
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Speaker 1: on this story. So a man too suing McDonald's over

462
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Speaker 1: a severe allergic reaction. So basically what happened is this

463
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Speaker 1: guy had an allergy to milk, like severe that he

464
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Speaker 1: would get anaphylaxis from it. So he's saying he placed

465
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Speaker 1: an order for a Big Mac with no cheese through

466
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Speaker 1: door dash, which is something he did quite often. So

467
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: he said he did it a bunch of times before

468
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: and he never ever had an issue. So this particular order,

469
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: he takes a bite of the Big Mac custom no

470
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Speaker 1: cheese he ordered and starts going into anaphylactic shock because

471
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: the cheese was on it. So a typical Big Mac

472
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Speaker 1: contains two beef patties topped with pickles, lettuce, onion, a

473
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: dairy free sauce which I can't even believe that sauce

474
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: is dairy free, and a slice of American cheese. It's

475
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Speaker 1: like the best sauce ever, by the way, Yeah, so special.

476
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Speaker 2: I love that he's he's.

477
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Speaker 3: Suing them, and his attorney is saying he has a

478
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Speaker 3: right to sue them because even though there's an option

479
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Speaker 3: to remove the cheese, you have no option to mark

480
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: that it's for an allergy. And I'm just here to say,

481
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Speaker 3: these employees don't give a flying fuck about you.

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Speaker 1: What if you if you interviewed, and I'm gonna say

483
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Speaker 1: this seriously, if you interviewed every single person that lives

484
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: in America and ask them what they thought about McDonald's service,

485
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: the way they handle things with custom orders, the way

486
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: they give you every single thing you're supposed to get

487
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: when you pay, every single person would be like, that

488
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: place is the worst and they suck. Why would you

489
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Speaker 1: ever trust them.

490
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: With your life? Like that, You've e supported not more dumb.

491
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: We reported not long ago that somebody, an employee, smeared

492
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Speaker 3: human shit in a bag and handed it to a

493
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: customer through a drive through window. Like, I don't exactly

494
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Speaker 3: see McDonald as following proper customer service protocols, and maybe

495
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: that boils down to corporate. Maybe they're not treating them

496
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Speaker 3: right and that's why.

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Speaker 2: They don't care. I don't know. I don't want to get.

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Speaker 3: Into all that, but I'm just saying, as somebody you

499
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: and I both with severe allergies to certain things, there's

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Speaker 3: just certain places.

501
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Speaker 2: You don't trust.

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Speaker 1: We even talked about this a couple of weeks ago

503
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Speaker 1: when that girl had accident only died from eating a

504
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: cookie that had some kind of nut or something in

505
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: it that wasn't listed in the products. And my personal

506
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: feeling is, especially if you know that you have an

507
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: allergy that would cause severe anaphylaxis, you really shouldn't be

508
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: eating out and trusting anybody to be making your food. Really, like,

509
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: that's that's how I look at dairy that's so common,

510
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: and McDonald's of all, but whoever in the world has

511
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: gotten door Dash or McDonald's. I don't think I've ever

512
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: gone to McDonald's and been like, Wow, my entire order

513
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: is right and I have napkins and estrawl in my bag,

514
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Speaker 1: Like it's just never happened once in the history of

515
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Speaker 1: my life, and it's progressively getting worse every year. And

516
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: then the same could be said with door Dash. You

517
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: just check things off and they ignore it all the time.

518
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: There's issues all the time. You cannot you can't trust

519
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: these people to be and then go ahead and sue them.

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Speaker 1: I just think that's really ballsy, like he should get

521
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Speaker 1: sued because he's dumb.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. Oh, I just don't

523
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: think so. I wanted to bring up the point like,

524
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Speaker 3: did you not look at the order before you took

525
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: a bite in it. It's very obvious to see if

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00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: Jesus is there's a piece of cheese.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just there's when there's And I really don't

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00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: think he has a case here because there's so much

529
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: of a chance of cross contamination. Just it's it's not

530
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Speaker 1: it's really kind of not fair to put on a

531
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Speaker 1: McDonald's employee because as seventeen year old kid that's working there,

532
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: Like they don't understand, they don't understand the severity of that.

533
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: And it's really what do they get paid ten dollars

534
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: an hour now? Like it's not it's not really their problem,

535
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Like I just.

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Speaker 3: Don't That's what I'm getting at, is like a try

537
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: finding somebody that cares in the first place and be

538
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: this could have been a super innocent mistake. They could

539
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: have just simply grabbed the wrong burger and put it

540
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Speaker 3: in the wrong bag. Shit happens, which is why as

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Speaker 3: a customer, it's also your responsibility to double check. I mean,

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00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: there's cases where we've ordered smoothie bowls and both of

543
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: us are like, is our throat so itchy? Blah blah blah,

544
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: And we did do everything. We Can, and I'm just like,

545
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: is what it is? I should an order from there

546
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 3: if something's gonna bother me of that level. I just

547
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: think like it's really dick to sue the McDonald's because

548
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: you had a job.

549
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: To and you didn't do it either.

550
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: So it's just like the culture of not having any

551
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: like self responsibility anymore just is annoying.

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Speaker 3: So I did want to bring up that they said

553
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: there is other lawsuits pending about dairy and other restaurants

554
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: because they're saying it's discriminatory to charge customers who can't

555
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: consume regular milk for special tea milks like coconut and almond,

556
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: and this lawsuit is geared towards Duncan Donuts, which I

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00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: just want to say I kind of agree with that

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Speaker 3: because if maybe they if they didn't put ten pumps

559
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: of syrup in every single coffee, they could even out

560
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: the cost of not charging seventy extra cents for almond milk.

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Speaker 3: But they have to.

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Speaker 1: This is just like so ridiculous, seriously, like a get it.

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00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: That's like us going to a place.

564
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: And going to a gluten free bakery and saying like

565
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have to pay fifty dollars for a cake

566
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: because the flower costs more. Like the flour just costs

567
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: more than regular flower. That's oat milk costs.

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Speaker 3: Man. And I'm saying, like, I get pissed about spending

569
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Speaker 3: an extra seventy cents on a non dairy milk, but

570
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna file a lawsuit about it. I am like,

571
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: that's life, sweetheart, deal with it. So I don't know,

572
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: but yeah, I think this lawsuit has totally no bias.

573
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 3: I feel bad yet an allergic reaction. You and I

574
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: have both been there where we've ordered something and it

575
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: wasn't right. We've gotten major itchy throat. Things happen, and

576
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: you have to do your due diligence as the person

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Speaker 3: with the allergy as well.

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00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: All right, get on to the zorb ball. So do

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00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: you know what azorb ball is? I didn't know.

580
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: When I first read it, but then when I looked

581
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: it up, I saw it was like one of those

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00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: giant hamster balls I've seen. I haven't actually seen one

583
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: in real life, but I saw them on the news

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Speaker 1: or something once and just thought, Okay, daw this is

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a problem because it's a huge

586
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: ball that you're not really in control of and what

587
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Speaker 1: if it rolls in the street or something.

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00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically, for anybody unfamiliar, it's this giant plastic

589
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: ball that you can get in and like walk in

590
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: it like a hamster wheel type of thing. My first

591
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: thing was how can you breathe them there? But apparently

592
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: if you're in there for less than fifteen minutes you're fine.

593
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: But this super freak thing happened at a food and

594
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: drink festival in the UK last summer where this nine

595
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Speaker 3: year old boy was in the zorb ball and a

596
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Speaker 3: giant gust of wind came up and swept him and

597
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Speaker 3: like launched it into the air, and then he fell

598
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Speaker 3: on the ground and had to be airlifted.

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Speaker 2: The hospital had.

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Speaker 3: All these surgeries. So now the family's saying, as of

601
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Speaker 3: today in February, he's still facing many issues from his

602
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: injuries from this accident.

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Speaker 1: Well we have to really tell them like how far

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Speaker 1: he was, because you would just think, okay, it went

605
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Speaker 1: up a couple feet. The people that were there that

606
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Speaker 1: witnessed it said that this ball went over the trees.

607
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: It was high as hell. So a child that's nine

608
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Speaker 1: years old, I mean sometimes there's forty and fifty miles

609
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: an hour gusts of wind. I mean, this is completely probable.

610
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: A nine year old kid could weigh seventy pounds or something.

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00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: It picked the kid up and he fell from above

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Speaker 1: the trees to the ground, broke multiple bones, was in

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Speaker 1: the hospital for a long time, and they're, yeah, they're

614
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: saying that he's still not recovered from his injuries. Don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's ever going to recover from some of

616
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Speaker 1: his injuries. And I guess a girl got ran over

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Speaker 1: by one of these last year or too, and someone

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00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: that was in the ball ran her over and she

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Speaker 1: went into the cement face first and broke like fifteen

620
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Speaker 1: bones and had all this brain injury and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: So who would have thought that this would have happened

622
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: being in a giant inflatable ball that rolls that you

623
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't have control over it and people would get hurt.

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00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I kept thinking about when he came down,

625
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: like did it pop or were they cut through all

626
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: that plastic to get him out without him suffocating? Like

627
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: this is absolutely a horrific situation.

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00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Well, there's I think there's like a door on it. Yeah,

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00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: there has to be a way that you get in it.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know, it's it's I feel like

631
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Speaker 1: it's in a movie.

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Speaker 3: Well, in Jurassic Park, oh god, in the newer ones,

633
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: well in that ball, they're in a similar type of

634
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: ball in one of the newer Jurassic Park movies where

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Speaker 3: they're like, you can drive through the park of Dinosaurs

636
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: and then the gate turns out. You know, the same

637
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Speaker 3: plot of all four hundred Jurassic Park things where the

638
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: gates turn off and the dinosaurs get loose. But that's

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Speaker 3: what I was thinking of immediately, was that. See this

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Speaker 1: age or older would know that he was famously known

658
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Speaker 1: because his wife cut his penis off and then he

659
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Speaker 1: later had it reattached and had a career in porn.

660
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Speaker 1: So we talk about that whole case and how surgeons

661
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: can reattach to penis and it could go on to

662
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Speaker 1: be functioning clearly. And we're also going to discuss next week.

663
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about dying from not necessarily from

664
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: a classic heart attack, but dying from an emotional stress,

665
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: being overly emotional. So that I thought that that was

666
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Speaker 1: good for this time of year, and we do this

667
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: all the time. At Christmas time, we did dissections on

668
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: people that died from eating toys or children that died

669
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Speaker 1: from eating toys or getting injured from toys, and we

670
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Speaker 1: try to do it specifically for whatever holidays coming up.

671
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Speaker 1: There's thousands of articles in the grosser Room, pictures, photos, videos,

672
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Speaker 1: and it's just really awesome. Plus we have a really

673
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Speaker 1: great community that we could talk to each other. It's

674
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you guys can head over to the grossroom

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Speaker 3: dot com and get twenty dollars for one year of gross.

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Speaker 1: All right, ray, let's get into violent crime.

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Speaker 3: This first story is about a man that was handcuffed

680
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: for so long that he needed a hand amputation. So

681
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: cops in Alabama handcuffed demand so tightly that his left

682
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: hand had to be amputated. This happened in February of

683
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. They received a call about gunshots at a

684
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: resident near Birmingham, Alabama. They arrested the man at the residence,

685
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: and he complained that they were too tight, So they

686
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: kind of blew him off because they claimed he was

687
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: a resisting arrest and they were just having a hard

688
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: time getting him in the handcuffs in the first place.

689
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Speaker 3: And then they said they readjusted them and he wasn't

690
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: complaining about them afterwards, So yeah, they were on for

691
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: a really long time, and then four days after his

692
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: arrest he had to go to the hospital for discoloration

693
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: in his fingers. They initially had to partially amputate three

694
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Speaker 3: fingers due to lack of SARA, and then eventually had

695
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: to take off his entire left hand.

696
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Speaker 1: So one of the things that you left out about

697
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: this was that he was complaining that the handcuff hurt,

698
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: and he also said that he was involved in a

699
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: motorcycle accident. I was gonna bring that up before that,

700
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: so that to me thinks like that could have had

701
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: something to do with it, because clearly, if you get

702
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: in any kind of motorcycle accident, I don't know that

703
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: you could really escape being uninjured. So I don't know

704
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: what the extent of the damage that he had. Was

705
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Speaker 1: not saying that it's not possible to completely cut off

706
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: oxygen from handcuffs, because you can, so apparently they have

707
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: this special double lock on them that you put on

708
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: to avoid this thing from happening, so they can't be

709
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: squeezed tighter. But they were saying because they were having

710
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: such a difficult time restraining him that they didn't do that.

711
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: So the handcuff.

712
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Apparently was tight on his wrist enough that it cut

713
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Speaker 1: off oxygen. So again we were talking about the oxygenated

714
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: blood coming off of the aorta, Well, it comes off

715
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: an artery in your hand. So when you put your

716
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: fingers next to your right below your thumb, you feel

717
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: your radial pulse. That's your artery bringing blood to your

718
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: hand with oxygen in it. Well, if that gets squeezed

719
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Speaker 1: off for a long enough period of time, the hand

720
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Speaker 1: will not have oxygen and it'll start to die and

721
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: it would be painful, and it could also compress the

722
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: nerves as well in the hand. So even though he

723
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: said that it felt better after they loosened it, he

724
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: might have already lost nerve sensation in the hand and

725
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: may not have realized that. But over the course of

726
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: the next couple of days, his hand became discolored because

727
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: it was dying. And then when he went in they

728
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: had to cut off his fingers and that probably wasn't enough,

729
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: and which is why they had to cut off his

730
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Speaker 1: entire hand.

731
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Speaker 2: No, so that's kind of crazy.

732
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it it is crazy, especially because I guess the

733
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: original reason they put him in handcuffs is because they

734
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: said he was drunk and he shelved an officer, which.

735
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Speaker 2: Is which is possible, I guess, but it seems like.

736
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: They don't know because the camera the cameras were off.

737
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: The camera was off, and then when it came on

738
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Speaker 3: it was quote obstructed. So oh my god.

739
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about this. This next story.

740
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Speaker 3: So two years ago, a thirteen year old boy in

741
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania was at his aunt and huncle's house and he

742
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: said he was looking for frogs near a retention pond

743
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Speaker 3: and came across a human skull and he was really

744
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: freaked out about this. So two years have gone by

745
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Speaker 3: and now the skull has been identified as this guy,

746
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Speaker 3: Roger Hart, who was a missing man who faced charges

747
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: of attempting to kill his wife back in two thousand

748
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Speaker 3: and four. Yeah.

749
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Speaker 1: That I always think about this because we actually have

750
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: another story coming up later in the news about stumbling

751
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: across something so creepy. And just think about a child

752
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: going in the woods and looking for something and then

753
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: running in the house and saying.

754
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Mom, I just found this out back.

755
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would be like, okay, whatever, you know,

756
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: go back there and see it and just be completely shocked.

757
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: But that was two whole years ago.

758
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: It took them, but they finally were able to do

759
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: DNA analysis on it and find out who it belonged to.

760
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: So that that's pretty cool.

761
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: And next week I'm actually interviewing a forensic artist named

762
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: Lisa Baily who kind of did this for a living.

763
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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's we're gonna have some really great

764
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: questions for her about what happens when they find a

765
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: skull and how we can figure out who it belongs to.

766
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lisa has the coolest book ever. I just finished

767
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: reading it coming out called Clay and Bones. It comes

768
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: out in two weeks. You guys should definitely preorder it.

769
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 3: She talks about doing facial approximations, working in the FBI,

770
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: doing composite sketches. It was the coolest career.

771
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, has she has a really cool story, So look

772
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: forward to that interview as well.

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00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's gonna be really cool. She also did

774
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: some really cool work at the body Farm. I think

775
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: you guys are really going to enjoy her story.

776
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this this next case, which

777
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: is highly disturbing.

778
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So this happened in Alaska, which I'm always so

779
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: intrigued by Alaskan culture. I feel like it's just the

780
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: creepiest things in the world happened there. So a woman

781
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: with a quote lengthy criminal history was picked up by

782
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: a man in his truck to go on a quote date,

783
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Speaker 3: so I think she was a sex worker and things transpired.

784
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: But when he left her alone in the car to

785
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: go to an ATM and pull some cash out, she

786
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: went into the center console of his car and stole

787
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Speaker 3: a memory card that was in there, which is like,

788
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: what are you doing?

789
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Why? Yeah, like, I mean, thank god she did, but

790
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: but but why? What was what was her reasoning?

791
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: So now four years has gone by and that memory

792
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: card is a key piece of evidence and a double

793
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: murdered trial. So on this on this memory card there

794
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: was gruesome photos and videos of a woman being beaten

795
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: and strangled at a Marriott hotel. Her attacker was speaking

796
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: in a strong accent as he urged her to die,

797
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: and her blanket covered body was snuck outside on a

798
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 3: luggage cart. This is all documented by the killer, which

799
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: is also like, what's your problem?

800
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Speaker 2: So she had went to police.

801
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: Right after she found this, like the next day and

802
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: or within a couple days or something, and I don't

803
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: so what's that? This is like a while ago. That's

804
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: that little card that you could stick in somewhere else

805
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: to be able to retrieve what's in it.

806
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder what a camera.

807
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: I just I just I just wonder what happened that

808
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: made her want to steal that, and then what made

809
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: her look at it? And maybe he did something that

810
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: was creepy, and then she she took it home and

811
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: looked at it and saw that stuff and then went

812
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: to police. I mean, I think that that's cool that

813
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: she did, because if she could have gotten in trouble herself.

814
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like her meeting was a little us

815
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: to begin with. Though maybe she was like I don't

816
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, she was up to no good stealing

817
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: the memory card, but it ended up really working out

818
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: in her favor, right. But what's really disturbing is in

819
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: one of the videos, he's quoted as saying to the

820
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: dying victim, in my movies, everybody always dies. What are

821
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: followers going to think of me? People need to know

822
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 3: when they're being serial killed. What is he talking about?

823
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

824
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: So she brings this memory card to police and they

825
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: said they recognized the voice as this guy, Brian Stephen Smith,

826
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: who's a fifty two year old man from South Africa,

827
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: because he had been part of a prior investigation. So

828
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: now he's been charged with killing two Native Alaskan women

829
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: that were known missing and one of the women or sorry.

830
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: So his attorneys are trying to get this piece of

831
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: evidence to Smith's because they're saying she stolen and could

832
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: have altered the videos in the photos, which I guess,

833
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: I guess, yes, that is possible, So it's definitely a

834
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: possibility that they could have been manipulated. I don't think

835
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: that's the case. And this guy had already been investigated

836
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: previously for something else, So yeah, this is kind of

837
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: it's a really weird story.

838
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: But it ended up really cool.

839
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: I like hearing stories like this because they're not that common,

840
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: and even though she was up to no good, she

841
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: did do a really good thing.

842
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: See.

843
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Speaker 1: This is another problem with the AI shit that I

844
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: always talk about because now it's normally if you saw

845
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: a video of a specific guy killing someone.

846
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: Then you would you would believe it.

847
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: And now that there's the technology to just make videos

848
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: that are completely not real that look real, So this

849
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: this is going to be a potential problem increasing problem

850
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: for law enforcement that you can't even use any of

851
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: this kind of his evidence anymore.

852
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

853
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: So he's ultimately pleated not guilty to fourteen charges, including

854
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: first and second degree murder, sexual assault, and tampering with evidence.

855
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: So I will be very interested to watch this trial

856
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: play out.

857
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: Okay, this next case is super disturbing.

858
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: A thirty six year old woman named Lacey Fletcher was

859
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: found dead in a waste filled, maggot ridden crater in

860
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Speaker 3: her family's couch, which was also covered in urine in feces.

861
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Speaker 1: All right, so when you first hear that storyline, you

862
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: think that these people are living in some kind of

863
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: like poverty situation, and just you know, you hear these

864
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: stories of people living with five hundred dogs and there's

865
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: feces everywhere, and then when you start scrolling through the story,

866
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: you start to see that the mom and dad of

867
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: this woman. So this woman was thirty six years old,

868
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: so she wasn't a child. But the mom and dad

869
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: are standing in front of a seemingly really nice house

870
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: with a Christmas tree, and they look like kind of

871
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: a normal suburban looking couple, and I guess they had

872
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: this child that had what they were saying was severe

873
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: aspergers and anxiety, also anxiety, and all of these like

874
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: different conditions. And I guess they were saying that she

875
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: wanted to stay sitting on this couch, and they would

876
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: they would feed her every day and everything, bring her food,

877
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: but ultimately she decided that she wanted to stay on

878
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: this couch. So then you and the parents loved this

879
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: child and they did everything, and they don't want to

880
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: be in trouble. But then when you look at the article,

881
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: they show you pictures of the couch.

882
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: And it's so disturbing.

883
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: It's like the girl like ate through the couch, just

884
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: sitting there all the time. And and this is coroborated

885
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: by the medical examiner's report that said that she had

886
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: horrible pressure ulcers. So that happens when you just if

887
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: you lay in bed or you sit somewhere for a

888
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: long time and barely ever get up. But they were

889
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: saying that the couch was full of urine and feces,

890
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: like she was just going to the bathroom, sitting there

891
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: all the time, and then sitting in it, and it

892
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: was down to the point that these ulcers were down

893
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: to her bones, and then within the exposed bones were

894
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: magots filled with maggots. So one person would say, well, Okay,

895
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: she was dead there, so that's why she had maggots.

896
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: But the medical examiner concluded that she wasn't decomposed when

897
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: they examined her body, So the maggots. They're concluding that

898
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: the maggots were there prior to her dying.

899
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's really disturbing. And I read somewhere

900
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: that a witness said she had basically sat there for

901
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 3: twelve straight years.

902
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

903
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: It looks like she did. Did you see the picture?

904
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: I know the local medical examiner described it as she

905
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: had quote melted into the piece of furniture. And I

906
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: really advise everybody to check this out, like the picture

907
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: of the couch out, because it is just absolutely so

908
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: horrific and disgusting. And at what point do you have

909
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: the responsibility of the caregiver to just like I understand,

910
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: she didn't want to move, but you got to override somebody.

911
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: They're saying she had a rare neurological disorder called locked

912
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: in syndrome. I'm not exactly sure what that means.

913
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: They're saying it's some kind of paralysis that involves all

914
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: of the muscles, except the eyes or something like that.

915
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: But even so then she needed special care, and her

916
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: letting her just sit there like that is Plus it's

917
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: also weird to me that didn't these people have any

918
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: friends or anything that had to smell horrific. Just just

919
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: urine and poop on a couch would smell horrible, but

920
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: just the necrotic skin and everything.

921
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: How could you, as just.

922
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: A person cohabitating that house, just deal with that.

923
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: I just couldn't understand.

924
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Because they're clearly mental.

925
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: But it's just like nobody ever came over, nobody, She

926
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: didn't have any siblings or anything.

927
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: Nobody ever knew about this. I don't know, And it's

928
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: it is weird because they look like a totally normal

929
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: couple with pictures in front of a Christmas tree, and

930
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: it's it's just how does this stuff happen? So now

931
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: they're facing secondary murder charges. They pleaded no contest to

932
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: reduce the charges to manslaughter, but they could face up

933
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: to forty years in prison for this. Yeah, while they

934
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: kind of should because seeing how the woman was thirty

935
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: six years old and she was less than one hundred pounds,

936
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: and trust me, like she was alive with maggot infestations

937
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: on her body. That it's just it's terrible. It's just somebody,

938
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: Even if somebody's really stubborn and they're you know, not

939
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: living a good quality of life or they're near the

940
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: end of their life, you can't just let them rot away.

941
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: You have to step in at some point and take

942
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: care of it, because they obviously aren't in their right

943
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: mindset to take care of it. And you can't just

944
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: let them sit there and literally deteriorate within a piece

945
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: of furniture in your home. And why do you want

946
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: to live in an environment like that? It's very, very weird.

947
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: It's another thing that was weird tell is that the

948
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: mom said that she would go home.

949
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: From work or something and eat lunch with the girl

950
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: every day. And you have to think, like, what, like,

951
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: how mentally disturbed are you that you're just sitting there

952
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: with a person that's alive living like this. Did they

953
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: just have her walled off in this other room that

954
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't allowed in the rest of the house. I

955
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: just there's something that just doesn't make sense to me

956
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: if you're living in a neighborhood that how this could

957
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: go on for so many years?

958
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: Who said she was there for twelve years or something.

959
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: Just in the article I mentioned a witness had said

960
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: she had been there, maybe was a family member or somebody.

961
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: But why did can't that witness get in trouble? Like

962
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: come on, I know, and you know I'm thinking about it,

963
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: like I can't even stand when my husband's feet snow

964
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: when he gets home from where it certainly could not

965
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: be sitting next to somebody's rotting flesh and poop and

966
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: pee and stuff. I just I think this is really

967
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: horrible for the girl.

968
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: I just I don't.

969
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: I cannot fathom what was going through the minds of

970
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: these people to let this get this far. All right,

971
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: let's discuss some medical news. Okay, So our first story

972
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: in medical news is about this former daycare director has

973
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: been sentenced to six months in jail after pleading guilty

974
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: to giving melatonin gummies to children without parents consent. So,

975
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: in December of twenty two, one of the parents, one

976
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: set of parents of a child going to this daycare,

977
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: their kid was having a hard time going down for

978
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: a nap, and they suggested giving their kid melatonin and

979
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: recommended a dose. The daycare director was really pleased with

980
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: the ease of how this went down and was like,

981
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to give it to you.

982
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: The other kids to give me a hard time too.

983
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: So the melotonin was given to seventeen children over this time,

984
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: ranging from infancy to four years. Some of them had

985
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: really bad side effects. Parents are obviously pissed, and it

986
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: was reported and now jail. Yeah.

987
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to my pediatrician about this several

988
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: times because I've given it to I give it to

989
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: my kids once in a while if they're if they

990
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: seem wired, because in my opinion, the best thing for

991
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: kids is for them to get a good night of sleep.

992
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: It's just better for their whole entire demeanor the next day.

993
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: And I just really want to try to get my

994
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: kids to bed at but if it gets to be

995
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: even nine o'clock, that's when I start getting anxiety that

996
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: they're not going to get their full night of sleep.

997
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: And my pediatrician has said that it's completely fine to

998
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: give it, although that there's only evidence that giving it

999
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: to them and the acute so like right then and

1000
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: there that there's not really any a ton of reported issues,

1001
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: but we don't know what the long term side effects

1002
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: are because kids haven't been taking this for twenty years,

1003
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: so I only give it to them once in a while.

1004
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm not like in every night person, I don't think

1005
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: anybody should give their kid that every night, because really,

1006
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: your kids should be able to learn how to fall

1007
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: asleep by themselves. And honestly, the biggest reason kids probably

1008
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: aren't falling asleep these days is because of devices being

1009
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: on too long before they go to bed. But anyway, yeah,

1010
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: so I think though I've had my kid in daycare

1011
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: before my kids, both of them when they were babies,

1012
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: and I would also I would not be happy about

1013
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: this just because you don't know if just because my

1014
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: pediatrician recommends it or says that it's okay doesn't mean

1015
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: other pediatricians do. And people are entitled to not have

1016
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: their kids take stuff and not and especially to not

1017
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: know behind their back. How did they actually figure out

1018
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: that she was doing this to all of the kids.

1019
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: A parent reported it, so I'm not sure if one

1020
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: of the older kids, you know, she was giving it

1021
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: to kids up to four years old, so one of

1022
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 3: the kids might have just said like, oh, blah blah,

1023
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: gave me something, right, and then they started looking into it.

1024
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: But they reported it to her boss, and then it

1025
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: started getting investigated.

1026
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: So I think the.

1027
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 3: Bottom line is you just shouldn't give anybody's child any

1028
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: type of medication or anything without their permission.

1029
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: It's just no.

1030
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: It's true one night the kids I had to sleep

1031
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: over one night and there were kids here, and I asked,

1032
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: like it was like two o'clock in the morning or something,

1033
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: and they just would not wind down. And I would

1034
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: never I the mom, like, hey, do you care if

1035
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: I give your kid like half a melatonin gummy just

1036
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: so they could chill out. I would never ever give

1037
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: a kid medicine without asking the mom that that's just

1038
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: not cool at all. And another concern with melatonin is

1039
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: that it's not really regulated, like it's like an FDA drug.

1040
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: And they've done studies on some of these herbal supplements

1041
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: of melatonin and found that it might say that there's

1042
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: five milligrams, but there's really ten milligrams in it. So

1043
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I always give my kids like whatever the whatever the

1044
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: dosage on the bottle says to give them, I give

1045
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: them like half. So sometimes it'll say like take two

1046
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: gummies for this age range or whatever, and I give

1047
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: them only one just to get because because I do

1048
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: get scared that there might be a little bit more

1049
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: than it says there should be, and I don't want

1050
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: them to have trouble waking up or anything.

1051
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I personally don't like melatonin because the times I've

1052
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: taken it, I feel like I fall asleep really nicely.

1053
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: Let's say I take it at ten o'clock at night,

1054
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: I fall asleep, and then I wake up wide awake

1055
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: at three am.

1056
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: Can't get back to sleep.

1057
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: It's the same thing happens to me, and I have

1058
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: crazy dreams, like it's insane. I won't take it either,

1059
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's just it's not good.

1060
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1061
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So this next story is about a baby born

1062
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: without eyes. So I'll start off with saying that this

1063
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: couple got married in twenty twenty one. They were having

1064
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: a kind of a long time trying to conceive, and finally,

1065
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: after a year, they were able to conceive this baby.

1066
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: They the woman gave birth in November to a seemingly

1067
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: healthy baby. But notice the baby wasn't opening its eyes

1068
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 3: at first, and the nurse was like, no, that's okay,

1069
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 3: because the womb is dark and they don't often open

1070
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: their eyes right away. I've never heard of that. Okay,

1071
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: but the baby never opened its eyes because it has

1072
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: this rare condition.

1073
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: Do you want to explain for everybody?

1074
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So she had what she thought was a healthy pregnancy,

1075
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: had all of the genetic testing and on everything.

1076
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: Everything looked cool, and the.

1077
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: Doctor was looking at the baby's eyes because it seemed

1078
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: like it was taking a long time for the baby

1079
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: to open the eyes up, and just said to her

1080
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: very bluntly, like, yeah, the baby doesn't have eyes. And

1081
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: she was like, what do you mean, Like the baby

1082
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: has small eyes and he was like, no, she just

1083
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have eyes. And is it wait is it a

1084
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: is it a male or female child?

1085
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: It was a baby girl, a baby?

1086
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so she doesn't have eyes and and what

1087
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: do you say, what do you even think when you're

1088
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: a parent, I've never even heard of this.

1089
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: Oh, so there can't be some sensitivity training for this person,

1090
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: like that's who that's.

1091
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: Kind of horrible.

1092
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of across across the board with a

1093
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: lot of doctors. But they were able to go to

1094
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: a children's hospital after the mom had healed, well not

1095
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: even healed. After she was allowed to be discharged from

1096
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: the hospital, and they stayed there for nine days and

1097
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: worked the baby up. They had never seen it, and

1098
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: they found out that she has some rare genetic disorder

1099
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: that unfortunately, she could be able to pass down to

1100
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: a child if she decides that a child one day.

1101
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: And there's only like thirty cases of it worldwide, so

1102
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: it's so so rare. So they don't really know if

1103
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: she's going to be one hundred percent cognitively normal or what.

1104
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: They don't know. They just have to kind of watch it.

1105
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: But she has no eyes and no optic nerve that

1106
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: is the nerve that usually relays the information from the

1107
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: eyes to the brain and back and forth.

1108
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: And the specialist is saying that there's nothing they could

1109
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: have really done to detect or prevented.

1110
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: It's just it's just how it is now.

1111
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just a it's a rare condition

1112
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: she was born with. And so now they're saying that

1113
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: they're going to give her surgery and they have to

1114
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: put these spacers in where the eyes would be, and

1115
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: that's just so the skull could continue to grow and

1116
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: form normally, and then when she gets older and is

1117
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: done growing, they can give her glass eyes. Yeah, I mean,

1118
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really crazy. I think the parents are

1119
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: like really kind of upset about it, and I think

1120
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: that you just have to be like, this is what.

1121
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: No there I have. They're upset about it, but they

1122
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 3: seem like they're like, Okay, this happen and there's nothing

1123
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: we can do. We're gonna move on and have the

1124
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: best life ever with us. Yeah, there's plenty.

1125
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, like it's so easy. It's so much

1126
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: easier to have a life where you could see and everything.

1127
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: But there's plenty of people that are heard of vision

1128
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: or completely blind that live very happy lives. So it's

1129
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: nothing to it is what it is, you know, and

1130
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: she'll she'll end up being very she's special.

1131
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: Thirty kids out of out of the world. I mean,

1132
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: it's it's crazy, yes, and I never heard of it ever.

1133
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I It's it's just really nuts, all right. So a

1134
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, a couple of years it's been now, right, Yeah.

1135
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: It was late twenty twenty two. I wrote this.

1136
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Maria wrote an article about this next story.

1137
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: So didn't know this was a thing either.

1138
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: So leg lengthening surgeries have been increasing in popularity, so

1139
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: basically around the fifty is these type of surgeries called

1140
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: length leg lengthening.

1141
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: That's a mouthful.

1142
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: Procedures had come about, and it was more so for

1143
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: children with that were born with genetic disorders or growth

1144
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: issues to help them have their legs grow and add

1145
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: some height. So of course this has been going on

1146
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: for decades, but now it's increasing a popularity because short

1147
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 3: men are getting these cosmetic procedures to add some inches

1148
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: to their height. So it's a cosmetic surgery. It could

1149
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: add two to six inches to your height. I don't

1150
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: know how to feel about it. It's really expensive. It

1151
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: starts around seventy thousand dollars. It's extremely painful. It could

1152
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: be very damaging to your muscles and other ligaments. So

1153
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what do you think about the whole thing.

1154
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: So they either break the bottom of your leg or

1155
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: the middle of your leg and they insert this rod

1156
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: into your bone that they you crank and allows the

1157
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: bone growth in between times where it's where it's separated,

1158
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: and as they crank it, it grows bone and the

1159
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: bone gets replaced in stuff. So I don't think, I mean, listen,

1160
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm for this kid, for kids, especially for a

1161
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: cosmetic procedure. It just it seems to be a little

1162
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: a little much. So what happens is they cut a

1163
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: hole in the bone and they want the bone to

1164
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: The bone will grow back eventually, but you're not going

1165
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: to grow a whole entire leg worth of bone. It

1166
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: only ends up being what are they guarantee three to

1167
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: six inches of height at the at the maximum fo

1168
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: to six inches two to six inches, So you just

1169
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: have to slowly crank it over the course of a

1170
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: couple of months and like let that bone regrow. I

1171
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: mean to me, that just sounds incredibly painful. I think

1172
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: that obviously, I'm not sure that you could even walk

1173
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: while you're doing that, right, I'm not I don't know.

1174
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: I don't believe your wheelchair bound. Your wheelchair bound for

1175
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: a month? How long?

1176
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: Is it a half months?

1177
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: No, the recoveries could take I think up to six

1178
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: months to a year to be fairy covered and walking again.

1179
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine that, and I imagine that it takes

1180
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot of physical therapy, and it seems silly. But

1181
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: then when you read the article, it's it's apparently it's

1182
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: a huge thing for guys to be short. That that

1183
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: guy that they were really focusing on the article was

1184
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: five foot nine.

1185
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: I don't get that, like he was totally fine height,

1186
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: but because any height, yeah, exactly. Well, you know what's

1187
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: funny about the article.

1188
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: So in the article it's said that most women are

1189
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: very when they go on a dating app, they put

1190
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: like height limitations, like what they what they would be

1191
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: comfortable dating someone that's this short versus this tall or whatever.

1192
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: And I only went on dating apps a couple of

1193
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: times before I met Gabe. But when I did that,

1194
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: I always would put six foot tall would be the

1195
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: starting range of somebody that I would want to date

1196
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm five nine almost right. And the funniest

1197
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: part is I always say that. I always say that

1198
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: to people when they put that because the Crisper is

1199
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: like that, she she would like a taller guy too,

1200
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: And I always be like, dude, I never would have

1201
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: met Gabe if if if we were both online, because

1202
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: he's he's sure, you know what I mean, and.

1203
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: He's not he's not sure. Well he's he says he's five,

1204
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: 't ten, he's not five.

1205
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: I take it.

1206
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: I think the guys always add I think for you

1207
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: and Crisper, though it's different, because I'm five four, so, like,

1208
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: I have plenty of options, right, but my husband's five eleven,

1209
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 3: so that's I looked out, I guess. But I don't know,

1210
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: Like I I just think that's a thing for tall

1211
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: women that they want to date taller guys.

1212
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: But you and.

1213
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: So Yeah, But I I just I don't care because

1214
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: I I just always felt like a.

1215
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 2: Like a bigger girl, and it would make.

1216
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Me feel a little insecure to have a little tiny guy. Yeah,

1217
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: but he's he's like a big muscular guy.

1218
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 3: He's bigger than me.

1219
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: He weighs more than me, So it doesn't bother me

1220
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: at all.

1221
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: But in that.

1222
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: Situation, I don't know that if I met a guy

1223
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: that was like, hey, look at these scars on my legs.

1224
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: I paid one hundred thousand dollars to get my legs

1225
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: lengthen I don't know if I would be attracted to

1226
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: that either.

1227
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't.

1228
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing, Like I don't want to be

1229
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 3: judgmental in the sense of it is a cosmetic surgery.

1230
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: It's like, when you look at it as just a

1231
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: cosmetic surgery, it's no different than get your boobs done

1232
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: or anything. But it is very different because you're getting

1233
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 3: an extreme surgery that's taking a year, almost a year

1234
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: of healing time. It is so expensive, and especially for

1235
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: the guy they mentioned the article five nine, that's not

1236
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: that short.

1237
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: That's a pretty average height for men.

1238
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: Who also has like a year of their life to

1239
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: just kind of be off their legs made longer.

1240
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: Why I wrote the article two years ago was because

1241
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: the guy I wrote about was an aspiring actor that

1242
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: was around my height, like five four or five five,

1243
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 3: and then he got it done and now he's five eight,

1244
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,479
Speaker 3: and he said it's changed his whole career. Like, dude,

1245
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,959
Speaker 3: I still haven't seen you in anything, so I don't

1246
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: know if it was worth them. I think.

1247
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: I think like Tom Cruise is like a little nug right,

1248
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: doesn't he always wear a lyft?

1249
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: Everybody's Tom Cruise, Like I guess my overall point is

1250
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 3: if you're sure, I understand, if you want to do

1251
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 3: this to make yourself feel better, you have every right,

1252
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: Like everybody does have a cosmetic procedure, but there are

1253
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: short men that.

1254
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: Just own it.

1255
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: And like Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise and he's a

1256
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: little nugget. There's there's Andy.

1257
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: Cohen's a little chicken. Nugget too.

1258
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: I just saw him in person for the first time.

1259
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, I just never really realized how

1260
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: shorty was. But who cares because he's him and he's great.

1261
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I think you should just just

1262
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: just own it.

1263
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: Just be sure. It's weird that I would be.

1264
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: I would want like a like a leg shortening procedure

1265
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: so I wasn't so tall. It's like, even though people

1266
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: say to me all the time, Oh, it's so great

1267
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: that you're so.

1268
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: Tall, it is great because I can't.

1269
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: It's great because anything, Yeah, in my kitchen, especially like

1270
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: I can reach up up to most shelves. I only

1271
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: have to get the ladder once in a while. But yeah,

1272
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: it's just but it's not like every pair of pants

1273
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: I've owned my entire life for short unless I get

1274
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they started making special long ones. But when

1275
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: I was a kid, floods were not popular.

1276
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was not a fun childhood. Okay,

1277
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: let's get into the other death news, all right.

1278
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,479
Speaker 2: I don't have much on the story.

1279
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: I just wanted to give an update, so we covered

1280
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: the three Chiefs fans that had frozen to death last

1281
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: week and not shocklingly they had cocaine and ventanol in

1282
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 3: their systems.

1283
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there is really the family seems to

1284
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: think it's very weird and the circumsanstances are weird, but

1285
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: they all if they all had the same thing, and

1286
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: the one of the moms is saying, oh, he wasn't

1287
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: a drug addict or something.

1288
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: Like that, you don't need to be a drug at attic.

1289
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 3: They might have they could have recreationally done cocaine, or

1290
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: this could have been the first time they did cocaine.

1291
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you would.

1292
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you would really, I mean die

1293
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: from the time of doing coco.

1294
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: But there is a yeah, and.

1295
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean there is a little bit of like keeping

1296
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: your your guard up about this because that guy that

1297
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: was the friend is some kind of chemist and stuff.

1298
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: My story is weird and we shouldn't get it's weird

1299
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: and we're not.

1300
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: But but like this is I think that was just

1301
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: like quick talks results too, which is not the full thing.

1302
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: So when when the full toxicology report comes out, there

1303
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: might be more. I just I don't see why the

1304
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: guy would purposely poison three of his friends. It doesn't

1305
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it just seems like they were partying,

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Speaker 1: and that's what partying people do, and maybe they just

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Speaker 1: got a bad batch of something or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, like what, We'll keep following it,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not going to keep updating.

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Speaker 2: With every step every weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're just updating you because again, last week,

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Speaker 1: we tell you this story and then did an hour later.

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Speaker 3: Maria was still editing the episode and they say, like,

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Speaker 3: the toxicology results came out. We're like, oh, of course,

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 3: because that's what always happened. And I'm like, I already

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Speaker 3: took my lipstick off, so your beat.

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Speaker 2: I'm not re recording that section.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So this so this next story, it goes with another

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: story we're talking about. There's just, you know, some people

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: walking down the beach in Miami and they're collecting shells

1322
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: and then they just look down and they see a

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Speaker 1: human fetus just sitting there in the beach against the water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So a fetus washed ashore in Miami, where we just

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01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 3: were recently. So I could very well see myself in

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01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 3: this scenario, which freaks me out. But a death investigation

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01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: has been opened. They don't really have anything to work with.

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01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: Right now, they're gonna try to have the medical examiner

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01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: work with DNA and everything and try to figure it out.

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01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 3: They don't know the mother's role, if she's alive, or

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Speaker 3: if she had something to do with the baby being

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01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: in the ocean or what happened. So at this point,

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Speaker 3: the medical examiner is gonna assess their remains and then

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01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: try to get as much information as possible. They have

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Speaker 3: the investigation open, and then they'll kind of go from there.

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Speaker 3: But I just want more information because I'm like, number one,

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Speaker 3: how old is the fetus? Number two?

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Speaker 1: How what did it look like? Because Miami's hot, I

1340
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't even go I've been to Miami.

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Speaker 3: Three times now.

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Speaker 1: I never went on the beach, just like it's too high,

1343
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: I'll get burn in two seconds. It's very hot there,

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01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: so that could contribute to decomposition. And then the salt,

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: the high salt content and just the water hitting it

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: and stuff. I just there's it might not even be

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: in any kind of condition to even figure out anything

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Speaker 1: about it.

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: I'm just I want to say I have a firm

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01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: anti ocean policy, and I did go in the ocean

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: in Miami, and now.

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Speaker 1: Its well because the water the water looks I mean

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: when you when you're from New Jersey and the water

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Speaker 1: you can't even see your hand as soon as you

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: put it under the water. No, it's just a little

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Speaker 1: different in different areas of the Yeah, but not not

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Speaker 1: down there, I mean it whatever.

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Speaker 3: So this next story we covered in the gross room

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Speaker 3: a couple months before Mother Knows Death launched. So a

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01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: woman was giving birth when they faced complications the baby

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01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: coming out, and then the doctor who is doing the

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 3: delivery essentially pulled too hard, which broke the baby's neck

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Speaker 3: and detached its head.

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Speaker 1: So this story did this happened months ago, and when

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: it first came out, the doctor that did the procedure

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: just said that this was a rare complication of the

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: baby had gotten stuck in the birth canal and they

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: had determined well, this is what the doctor's saying that

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01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: they determined that the baby was dead already and they

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: decapitated the head. So they pulled the head out of

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01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: her vagina and pulled the body out through the cea section.

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Speaker 1: And when the medical examiner got this body, they determined

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: that the baby was alive when it was decapitated, and

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01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: they said that the baby had a fractured dislocation with

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01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: complete transaction of the upper cervical C one and C

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,799
Speaker 1: two spine, so they're the ones that are right beneath

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: the skull. And it was a transsection of the spinal cord,

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: which means the spinal cord was cut completely in half.

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01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: Now this is really important from the medical examiner because

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01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: they can tell if this was done before the baby

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: was alive or or after the baby was already dead.

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01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: And they determined that there was hemorrhage surrounding this these

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: bone fractures and around the spinal cord, which means that

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01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: the baby was still alive when this happened. So that's

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01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: kind of like gonna go against what the doctor was saying.

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: The medical examiner also had went and consulted other medical

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: examiners because they said they had never seen a case

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 1: like this before. They actually are shocked that it wasn't

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: reported to them because in the hospital, when there's even

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01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: if you think it's considered a natural death, it could

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: be an accidental death like ing a procedure. Especially that's

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: a reportable case, you're supposed to call the medical examiner

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01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: and be like hey, like even if it went down

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: the way this woman said it did what this doctor

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: that did the that was trying to deliver the baby said, hey,

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: this baby had died and it was stuck and we

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: had to save the mother's life. So we had to

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: take the baby out. Which is it happens once in

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01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: a while, that's its life. The medical examiner then should say, okay,

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01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: we want to do the autopsy and look at it

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: for ourselves, or you guys can.

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01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: Do the autopsy. Well, what happened was the baby. So

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: this mother has just told her baby died.

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: She doesn't really she doesn't really know anything except that

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: she that she lost her baby. And this happens at

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01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: the hospital sometimes, and they tell her that she's not

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: allowed to hold the baby afterwards, but they're gonna let

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: her see the baby. So they wrap the baby up

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: and this is really disturbing in that cute little baby

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: blanket and show her through a window. They so she

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: sees it. She's upset, and she leaves the hospital. The

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: baby goes to the funeral home and then they say

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: the baby's head is not attached to the body.

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: And that's obviously so weird.

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: I could think about all of the fetuses and stillbursts

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: that I that I've dealt with throughout my career. I've

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01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: never seen or heard anything like that. I've never seen it,

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01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: so of course if I saw it too, I'd be like,

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: what's happening here. It's like a head can't just fall off, right,

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01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: It had to get forcefully removed. She didn't, So the

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: mom and dad were really upset. They didn't know anything

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: about it, and here they find out that that they

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: had that they had known this at the hospital and

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01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't tell them, and they wouldn't let her hold her

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,520
Speaker 1: baby because of that, And they prop this baby's decapitated

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: head on its body and wrapped it up and showed

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01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: it to her so it looked like it was all

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01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: in one piece.

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 3: No, it's so horrible behavior on the hospital's part, and

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: they're saying that they're covering it up, like, oh, shaker,

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01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 3: We've covered how many times horrible things have been happening

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01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 3: a hospital and they've just done everything in their power

1433
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: to cover it up. Yeah.

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why they thought that they would ever

1435
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: get away with this, but it's really disgusting and I

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: feel terrible for the parents, and I'm glad that the

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: medical examiner has scientific concrete evidence to show what happened,

1438
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: because otherwise they would they would probably get brushed under

1439
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: the rogin and this doctor would go on practicing. I

1440
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: can't it seems like the doctor still is practicing. And

1441
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that any patients would want to

1442
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: go to this this person, because it's freaking way. Yeah,

1443
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: but like, is everybody reading the news and seeing that

1444
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: it's their doctor, how would they even know?

1445
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: Like my husband could pull that baby out with over

1446
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: this doctor good anywhere?

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: Dear, Yeah, I don't know, but it's just such a

1448
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: terrible situation. And you know, we we posted we posted

1449
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: a couple of cases of this in the Grosroom. Actually,

1450
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: that's another great thing about the gross Room is that

1451
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: we're able to to post more gruesome cases and have

1452
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: larger discussions because there's larger room to write articles. But

1453
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: also we don't have the limitations of Instagram because of

1454
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: everything getting censored and it's just becoming worse and worse

1455
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: every day with Instagram. But we had shown a couple

1456
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: cases of this happening in real life, a case reports,

1457
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: autopsy reports, and we had a discussion underneath because a

1458
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: lot of members of the grosserm or nurses or they

1459
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: take care of pregnancies and everything, and everybody that was

1460
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 1: commenting on it just is completely in shock about this case.

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01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: Our last story is about UPS losing some ashes. So

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: a fifteen year old boy died in twenty twenty after

1463
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 3: odeing on fetanyl and the family had him cremated. So

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01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: his mother in Atlanta had shipped his ashes to her

1465
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 3: sister in Connecticut because the sister was making a custom

1466
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: earn to hold the son's ashes in. The package was

1467
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 3: supposed to arrive on January tenth and never came, and

1468
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: UPS just has lost it and gave her a check

1469
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty five dollars and said, sorry,

1470
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: nothing we can do.

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01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: All right, So when you hear it from that perspective,

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01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: it sounds really bad. But they have a receipt that

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: said that she said it was clothing, yeah, that she

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: was shipping, and UPS has a policy that they don't

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:30,440
Speaker 1: ship human remains. So she took a chance, yeah, breaking

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: their policy and saying that it was clothing, and she

1477
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: lost on that chance. It Listen, it sucks, and it's terrible,

1478
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: and it's sad. It's sad that she lost a child,

1479
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 1: and it's sad that this happened, but like, I'm sorry,

1480
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: it's just not UPS's fault.

1481
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 3: It's just it's not even breaking the policy. You should

1482
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: never ship something that precious, like think about we met.

1483
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 3: That happens all the time though that you just I

1484
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,919
Speaker 3: don't know. I just feel like it's such a gamble

1485
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: with things like I spent hours and hours and hours

1486
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 3: making Michelle an embroidery and we shipped to California and

1487
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 3: it's lost forever, and I'm pissed about it, but it's

1488
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 3: my fault. I could have just waited a couple of

1489
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 3: months and gave it to her a person. So I

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01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 3: don't know.

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: I just I think if.

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: I could just get lost all the time, I mean,

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01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I and I do think that

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01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: there's there's different kind of you could get, like a

1495
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: courier or something something that's more Hey, I'm coming to

1496
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: your house and picking this up and driving it. But

1497
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, especially when you can't just you can't just

1498
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: ship ashes with thirty five, there's no it doesn't matter

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01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: if they gave her a million dollars, you're not getting

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: that back.

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01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 3: But also it's just like where is it though? Where

1502
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: is it the same place where Michelle's embroidery is. So

1503
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: but around Christmas time people open packages and like they

1504
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 3: got a Keith Morrison Christmas sweater and an embroidery.

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01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: Good job, But yeah.

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, like so you open I feel like

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: people just open if it was Mark close, maybe it's

1508
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 3: say closed. And then they opened it and it was ashes,

1509
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 3: and some asshole working there just disposed it off to

1510
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: the side, like they need to get the system and check.

1511
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 3: But also she should not have lied about what was

1512
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 3: in there. And I personally wouldn't take RISKS ship, yeah.

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: Because I think if she went to UPS and said, hey,

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm sending these ashes to to a family member, they

1515
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: would say, we don't, we don't let you ship that.

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01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 3: But then none of the none of the shipping providers

1517
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: take ashes, like UP USPS I think.

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: I think I think USPS does, But there's a whole

1519
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: entire protocol of how you ship it totally unreliable. So

1520
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: well that's the Yeah, I mean, you have to do

1521
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: that sometimes you just have to just because of the

1522
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: way life is.

1523
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: You can't you can't not do that.

1524
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: But there's there's probably different protocols in place as to.

1525
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 3: I believe.

1526
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: I believe the post office does it. I feel like

1527
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: they have a sticker for the box that says human

1528
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: cremines or something like all over it. I'm pretty sure.

1529
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: Oh weird, there's there's something about that. And this happens

1530
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: the same thing like if you die on an airplane

1531
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: or if you bring something.

1532
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: You know like that.

1533
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: People do that too, like they ship a personal die

1534
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: and then they ship the body back. There's like a

1535
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: whole entire way of.

1536
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: II the body back.

1537
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: But it's a lot harder to lose an entire human body.

1538
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the sometimes it's creamines too. There's a whole

1539
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: entire procedure of how to handle that kind of stuff. Yeah,

1540
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: maybe it's an article you could write about in the

1541
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: Grosser room.

1542
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 3: It sounds like, okay, on New Questions of the Day

1543
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: every Friday, you guys should know the drill by Now

1544
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 3: head over to that at mother nos Death Instagram. We'll

1545
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 3: put a little question box up you could ask whatever

1546
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: you want. We don't care. We'll talk about anything, all right.

1547
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: First question, do we have any matching tattoos and did

1548
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: we get them together? And the answer is yes, yes,

1549
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: we have just one, just.

1550
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 2: One which a little Santa.

1551
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: We a little Santa, which you know, it's so cute. Lilian.

1552
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: I was trying to tell Lillian how like she shouldn't

1553
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: get her whole body tattooed because I just wish I

1554
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: didn't have them anymore, and she said, I don't want

1555
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: to get a lot, but I want to get the

1556
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: knife you have on your thumb because you and re

1557
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: have that, and I want to get the Santa you

1558
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: and Rehab.

1559
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: Is that fine, that's it's kind of cute.

1560
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 3: It is really cute because oh yeah, we have we

1561
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 3: both have swords on our thumbs, but they weren't together.

1562
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 3: I got mine at my friend's wedding and you just

1563
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 3: got yours randomly, So.

1564
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you weren't even old enough to get a

1565
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: tattoo when I got mine. Oh yeah, I was like,

1566
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: I was like twenty something.

1567
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 3: No, but we Your Santa's on your back. It's like

1568
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: a retro fifty Santa. So your Santa's on your back

1569
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: and mine's on my ankle. And we got them, and

1570
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 3: Steve did them Steve to me or we love him. Yeah,

1571
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: they're they're really they're so cute and everybody will see

1572
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 3: it's on the inside.

1573
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: Of my right ankle. And sometimes people will be like,

1574
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 2: what is that. I'm like, I like, I show you now.

1575
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know what side it's one.

1576
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't it's on it's on one side. Yeah. And

1577
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: then you and Gabe of a couple matching tattoos.

1578
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Me and Gabe have a lot of matching tattoos actually,

1579
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 2: maybe like five or something.

1580
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I have a matching one with our friend Amberella,

1581
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 3: and then I have matching everybody that went on my

1582
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: Bachelor at Trip got a little one that said Darlin

1583
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 3: on it.

1584
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 2: So we all have that. But no matches for me

1585
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: and Ricky yet. We'll see, all right.

1586
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 3: Have you have your tattoos? Ever caused issues when getting

1587
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 3: a job? Oh?

1588
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: God, yes, Well let me just let me just say this.

1589
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: So I worked at a city hospital for like twelve years.

1590
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: I never had a problem.

1591
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 1: I went to Jefferson UH University for my bachelor's degree,

1592
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: never had a problem, Drexel for my master's degree, never

1593
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: had a problem.

1594
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 2: And then when.

1595
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: I was at Drexel, I started doing my rotations. And

1596
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: when I went to one of my rotations at a

1597
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: hospital in New Jersey, they started with me the day

1598
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: that I walked in and said like, we don't know

1599
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: if you could be here because we have a policy

1600
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: that you can't have tattoos. And this was in two

1601
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, so it wasn't that long ago. It

1602
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: was definitely way like people had tattoos or something. They

1603
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: just like freaked out and didn't know how to handle me.

1604
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: And I was just like, okay, well then, just like

1605
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: I'll go rotate at the hospital and work it out.

1606
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't need to deal with this bullshit. So then

1607
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: they there was just like all these rules like, oh,

1608
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: you could stay in the lab as long as you

1609
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: stay in the lab, Okay, fine, whatever. So I went

1610
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: there and I rotated there and I ended up doing

1611
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,879
Speaker 1: so awesome that they said.

1612
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 3: Oh, sorry, we gave you trouble and we judged you

1613
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 3: in the beginning and blah blah blah, and I was

1614
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 3: like whatever.

1615
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: So so anyway, I left that place, and then when

1616
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: I left my rotation, they asked if they could hire

1617
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: me per Daum to work there. So I said yeah,

1618
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: and that wasn't really an issue, and I worked there

1619
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: per Daum for years, like at night and on the

1620
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: weekends while I was working at my other job. And

1621
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: then when I when I decided I wanted to quit

1622
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: my job in the city and go there, it was

1623
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: because a full time position had come up, and I

1624
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: just I wanted to go there for multiple reasons. I

1625
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,879
Speaker 1: wanted to make more money. I was pregnant with Lilian,

1626
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: and I thought that that would have been better to

1627
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: take her to daycare every day instead of lugging her

1628
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: into the city. There was just like lots of different

1629
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: reasons that I left and I start working there full time.

1630
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: Now I'm already a perduum employee for years and I

1631
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: start working there full time, and my very first week

1632
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: of work, they started giving me like a lot of

1633
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: trouble about my tattoos. Now these people know that I

1634
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: have tattoos up into my chin and my hands are

1635
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: covered like I've always looked like this the entire time

1636
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: that I was there, And they said, well, you have

1637
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: to cover your tattoos. And I'm like, how am I

1638
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: going to cover my tattoos?

1639
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 3: Like they don't.

1640
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: I can't, I physically can't. And they started all and

1641
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: I was pregnant too, so I and it was it

1642
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,879
Speaker 1: was like the summer, I'm not not wearing long sleeves

1643
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: and everything whatever, so then it became they made an

1644
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: agreement that I was I only had to cover up

1645
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: when I went into public spaces and like the cafeteria

1646
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: and this and that, and it just I contacted a

1647
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: lawyer too to find out because I was like, they

1648
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: knew what I looked like when they hired me, and

1649
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: they hired me and I left a secure job, and

1650
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,520
Speaker 1: now they're harassing me every day like they were harassing

1651
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: me about it. And the lawyer at the time said

1652
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: that they didn't think there was anything they could do

1653
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: because they had a policy about not having tattoos. But

1654
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, but they hired me, and they know what

1655
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: I look like, and I've worked there for years. So anyway,

1656
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: I just I just started I just stopped listening to them.

1657
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 3: They wanted me to. They literally asked me to wear

1658
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 3: gloves into the lunch room to go get my lunch.

1659
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: Like what would you think if you saw someone wearing

1660
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 3: rubber gloves and getting food, You'd be like, what nasty

1661
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:20,879
Speaker 3: disease did they have under.

1662
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: Their I just think it's the dumbest thing.

1663
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: Like when I was eighteen and I worked at bath

1664
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: and Body Works, I really I have the the push

1665
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 3: in piercing, you know, and I really could not get

1666
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: it out to save my life.

1667
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: And they're like, well, you're gonna have to wear a

1668
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 2: band aid on your.

1669
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 3: Face, and I'm like, yeah, so me having an enormous

1670
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 3: band aid on my face looks better than me having

1671
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 3: a gem sticking.

1672
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,520
Speaker 1: Out of my face at a perfect It's seriously, It's seriously,

1673
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: is like the They're so dumb, So yeah, I And

1674
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: then I just started being like, you know what, fuck you,

1675
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna look how I look and you could

1676
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: fire me. And I knew they wouldn't fire me because

1677
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: I was good and they needed my help.

1678
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: And that was it.

1679
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: And then a position to open up in the same

1680
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: hospital chain a different location that was much more chill,

1681
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: and I just went over there and then I didn't

1682
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: have to deal with it anymore. But it was hell

1683
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: because it put a lot of stress and anxiety on

1684
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: me because I worked really hard in college and then

1685
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: I worked really hard at my career and I had

1686
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: left a very secure career to go to this new

1687
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: place and they were giving, they were like harassing me,

1688
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: and I was pregnant, so of course it was like

1689
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: stressing me out even more every day like on top

1690
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: of the normal stresses of being pregnant and stuff, and

1691
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: it just wasn't cool. But guess what the best part

1692
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: of this story is that that asshole that harassed me

1693
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: was taken out of the hospital in handcuffs by security,

1694
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: so that whenever I have a hard time in life,

1695
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,520
Speaker 1: karma always comes around.

1696
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 2: Always, always, always, always.

1697
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that is the that's the best part of

1698
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: this story. That there was a day that I could

1699
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: smile when I got that phone call that she was

1700
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: escorted out of the building by security.

1701
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 3: That's incredible. Okay, the next one is so funny to me.

1702
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: How do we both get our hair so shiny? And

1703
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: I want to say, it's all grease, baby, because last

1704
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: week when this question came in, my hair looked so

1705
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: disgusting and I was like, we are getting the most

1706
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 3: beauty related questions we've ever had. Last week, the week

1707
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 3: I thought I looked the most haggards. Yeah, I you

1708
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: know what.

1709
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: I saw a story this week in my going through

1710
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: the thousands of news stories that there was this social

1711
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: media influencer lady that's like a mom, and she was

1712
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: saying that she only gave her kids baths twice a week,

1713
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: and all these people were freaking out about it, and

1714
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, I tell you, I washed my hair

1715
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: at the most once a week. I don't even do

1716
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: it more than that, and sometimes I go two weeks

1717
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: like I just and I And if you talk to

1718
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: any person that does hair or anything, they'll tell you

1719
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: that the washing it more is bad for your hair.

1720
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 1: So I mean a lot of it is. Just it's

1721
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: funny because I washed my hair two years ago when

1722
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: you could see it's like it's frizzy, Like it'll looks

1723
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: shiny next week.

1724
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: It takes. It just takes a really long time.

1725
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: But I just got all of these great hair products

1726
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: that are supposed to help with all of that because.

1727
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 3: My hair is really dry looking. Yeah, like I'm joking

1728
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 3: because last week my hair was really greasy. But in general,

1729
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: I've been taking my hair really seriously because it's really

1730
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 3: frizzy and curly. So last year I started using this

1731
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 3: leaven conditioner spray when I get out of the shower,

1732
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 3: and now I have the Shark hair dryer tool that

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01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 3: makes my hair look really nice and I blow it out.

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Speaker 3: He use a bunch of other stuff. So we both

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Speaker 3: have Amazon storefronts and we have all this stuff listed

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Speaker 3: if you want your hair to look as gorgeous too.

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Speaker 1: I need to add my new stuff into there because

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have certain products that I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: these are really good now. And I'm such a pro

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Speaker 1: Amazon person. So do you remember the other day I

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Speaker 1: said to you, I want to do a challenge and

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Speaker 1: see I could just live and buy everything from Amazon

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Speaker 1: for like one month and not.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So then I saw some Lilian showed me some YouTube

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Speaker 1: video of some guy that bought like a house or

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Speaker 1: something on on on Amazon. It's like one of those

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Speaker 1: small houses, tiny homes. I think it's like a shipping

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Speaker 1: container type thing. Yeah, and he was talking about how

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Speaker 1: they were living off of everything was from Amazon in

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Speaker 1: the entire house. I just thought it was it was

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Speaker 1: really funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So for my Haire products, you could go to Amazon

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Speaker 3: dot com slash Shop, slash Mary qcine it's and then

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Speaker 3: you have a different U r O. I think it's

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Speaker 3: Amazon dot Com slash Shop, slash missus and Jimmy. Okay, thanks,

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Speaker 3: But last question, if somebody dies lying face down, how

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Speaker 3: long before blood starts coming out of their nose?

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Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of that. There's no magic timeline.

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Speaker 1: It depends and I'm assuming that you mean purge so

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Speaker 1: sometimes and this doesn't happen to every single person that dies,

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Speaker 1: but if you're lying there for a specific amount of time,

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Speaker 1: what happens is your body starts decomposing. You have bacteria

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Speaker 1: in your body that start multiplying, and it starts breaking

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Speaker 1: down the tissue inside your body, which causes like a

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Speaker 1: liquid called decomp juice basically, and yeah, really it's pretty nasty.

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Speaker 1: And what happens is as the bacteria multiply, they start

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01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: to give off gases and they cause the body to

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01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: start bloating, and then that bloating kind of can push

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Speaker 1: out that fluid which would come out of open orifices

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Speaker 1: like the nose and the mouth, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: bloody looking, so people could think it's blood, but it's

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01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: not really true blood that you would see if you

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Speaker 1: punch somebody in the face and they were alive and

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Speaker 1: they were bleeding, but it wouldn't happen. It wouldn't happen

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Speaker 1: right away when a person dies, But it just depends

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Speaker 1: on the conditions and how they're decomposing. Like if a

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Speaker 1: person dies in a house in Florida in the heat

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: of the summer, it could happen in the first day,

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Speaker 1: within a couple hours even but if they die outside

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01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: when it's cold, it could take a couple days slash

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: weeks for something like that to happen. So it depends

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Speaker 1: on the environment. It depends on the temperature, it depends

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Speaker 1: on the elements outside. Are they in a house, are

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01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: they outside? So I can't really give like a specific time.

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01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: I could just say in general that it wouldn't happen

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01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: within a couple hours, that that could be safe.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you guys for this week's questions.

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Speaker 3: amazing external exam this week with plastic Surgeon to the

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Speaker 3: Stars that doctor Kelly Colleen. She was so cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was awesome. I learned a lot.

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01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 3: I would feel very comfortable a procedure done from her

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Speaker 3: based on she talks about patient care, because I feel

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Speaker 3: like you don't often see people that seem to really

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Speaker 3: care about their own patients. So yeah, all right, we'll

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Speaker 3: see you guys next week.

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