WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Bye Wolf 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:09.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.600 Cowboys. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.919 This he is Talking Cowboys, springing live. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.520 From the Dallas Cowboys World head Coarse at the Star 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:22.200 in fris. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:34.320 Joe TiO and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.120 John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.440 It's a Tuesday, March nineteenth edition of Talking Cowboys, presented 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.839 by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.240 Texas, in the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.760 It's time to talk Cowboys off season and what has 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.840 happened and what has not happened over the last week. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.240 Inside this building, We've got the crew ready to rock 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.920 and roll with Isaiah's stand back, John Machoda, Nick Harris, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:05.679 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.360 Chris Beam is in the back. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.920 Gentlemen, have we uh, have we come to terms with 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:13.480 what this offseason is going to be? 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.839 Just yet? Man? Almost like a show tried to warn 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.319 you at some point, would show it was. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.640 At some point. Yeah, talking cap last week, That's what 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:28.600 it was. But uh yeah, I mean like salary cap 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.959 or is that lies open for interpretation for interpretation as. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.440 The kids say no cap these days, right, John, Yeah. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:43.160 That's what I try and say, try to say no cap, cringe, cringe. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.959 I have some others. I'm just not gonna say. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.240 I like my friend, I kind of want to keep 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:49.760 them rolling. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.360 There's just a certain age you shouldn't be saying this anymore. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:01.320 But yeah, Isaiah, it's about what I we. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.720 I think what I assumed it would be. I'm not surprised. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.120 We talked about disappointment versus frustration, and. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:10.760 It is what it is. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:11.000 Man. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.720 I mean, they don't have any money. We know they're 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:13.240 cash strap. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.119 They have I don't believe that they're willing to sacrifice 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:21.920 the potential to re sign Ceedee Lamb or Micah Parsons 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.400 by bringing on somebody to carry them or help them 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.120 this season. That's just that's where I believe that this 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.840 organization is at right now. I think those two individuals 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.480 are taking priority over the best positioning for the team 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.120 this year. And I just think that's the situation that 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.560 they're in. That doesn't probably sound good to most I 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.960 would assume that's my opinion, but that's really when you 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.720 dig deep, that's really what's at the root of this 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.920 situation that they find themselves in, they are unwilling to 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.880 compromise the potential of resigning those two individuals in the future. 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.400 It's those two, but I also think it's the quarterback position, 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.880 so that that's dak or if they were to somehow 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.480 go in another direction. I don't see them not spending 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.880 on the quarterback position, regardless of who's playing it. So 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.280 I would say, yeah, those three. But out of everybody 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.480 that's signed with other teams out of their free agents, 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.680 Tyron Smith is the only one that when you look 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.000 at the deal that they sign, that makes you go, man, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.280 that would have been really nice to have. A lot 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.040 of the other ones I can move on from, but 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.119 the Tyron Smith seeing that one, seeing how it's six 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.120 point five million guaranteed, the incentives can take it up 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.560 to twenty million, but that's he'd have to reach a lot. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.200 But if you factor in a lot of the incentives 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.080 in his contract are playtime percentages, and from what I 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.080 read on it, it looked like basically like last year's contract, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.360 if he was playing under that one that he has 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.880 right now, he probably have made about thirteen million because 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.360 he played over seventy percent of the snaps and so 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.640 I think they paid him about nine ten million last year, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.080 so it would be an increase off of last year. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.760 So I mean, if Tyroann could stay healthy for a 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.040 second consecutive year, if they can work out a similar 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.920 plan in New York, then yeah, that works out for Tyron. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.720 But yeah, if Tyrone stays healthy, that'll be one throughout 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.800 the season that will look back on to be like, 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.440 but all the other ones, I don't those those are 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:08.800 all guys that thought would be gone anyway. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.400 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we could look at these free agents 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.480 that have departed. Let's see Dorn's Armstrong and the Commanders, 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.800 Tony Poller to the Titans. I think those happened around 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.200 when we had our show last week. Tyler Biadis to 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.000 the Commanders, Dante Fowlers to the Commanders, Neville Gallimore to 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.599 the Dolphins, Which that was just that was surprising that 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.400 he came off the board so early and that he 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.560 landed at a spot like that, Tyron Smith to the Jets. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.080 And then the ones that have been retained Jordan Lewis, C. J. Goodwin, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.560 Trentzig and Rico Dowdell and the one outside signing, Eric Kendricks, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.839 so yeah, when the Kendricks news came down last week, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.840 I think it makes a lot of sense. And as 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.040 I looked more into Kendricks, I was like, man, this 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.880 one just kind of flew right beneath my nose. It 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.760 felt like, because he's a Zimmer guy, it makes sense 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.120 him being a free agent being released by the Chargers 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.560 a couple of weeks ago. It would make him make 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.240 sense with him to reunite with Zim. So you know, 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.120 Zever made that phone call pull them away from the 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.279 forty nine ers, and I think the Cowboys have at 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.279 least a reliable body in that second level. Is he 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.520 on the back half of his career. Absolutely, but I 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.760 think you look at his health as durability that he's 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.640 been able to stay on the field over the course 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.719 of his nine seasons. If he can keep that going 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.120 into twenty twenty four, that'll only help that second level 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:20.520 for sure. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.640 And I think the thing about Kendricks too, And we'll 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.440 get more into this as we go along. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:26.680 I kind of want to talk a little bit more 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.000 about that in the final segment. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:32.839 But it's that that veteran presence at linebacker that you've 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.640 been missing whenever it was Dumont Clark, and it was 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.560 Marquise Bell and now without Leyton Vanderischispoell, which we'll get 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:40.480 into in the second. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.920 Segment having him back in the building. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.640 Maybe not the best x's and o's guy at thirty 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.719 two years old and working into a double digit NFL seasons, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.960 but still a guy that you can rely on to 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:58.320 bring insight, to bring veteran a mindset into that locker room, 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.080 and help out possibly some young guys through the draft 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.920 in April as well. So definitely something to look forward to. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:06.360 I want to talk about those two in the second 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.080 and third segments. But John, you brought up how this 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.839 isn't necessarily surprising and you go down the list and 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.040 you're losing starters. I mean, you look at it, Dorence 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:20.240 Armstrong and Tyler Biattish, Tony Pollard, all these guys that 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:25.599 are starters, Tyron Smith, which one hurts the most? Because 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.520 I'm looking at it, I'm saying, Okay, none of these 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.239 moves necessarily surprise me based off of what was said 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.479 going into the off season, But which one hurts the 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.400 most and which one's gonna be toughest to replace? 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.200 Tyron? Why is that? 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.160 I think Tyron hurts the most, not only from the 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.160 leadership perspective, but I think from just. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:43.960 The Do you think he was a leader in the 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.919 locker room? I think he was a leader in the field. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.880 Okay, I think when he steps on the field, you 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.839 don't worry about what's going on where, you know, with 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:51.760 his responsibility. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.080 Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I believe so in that regard. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.400 Only concern that you ever had about Tyrone was his availability, 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.520 which is huge. But when he was available, there was 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.000 never a question about his performance. So I think that's 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.840 going to be hard to feel because not only that, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.160 but the fact that Tyler Biada's got plucked. I think 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.880 we all kind of assumed that he would move on, however, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.560 but you didn't expect Tyron to move on. So now 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.680 that you have two voids out of your five on 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.520 your offensive line, that doesn't leave you with solid a 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:23.880 solid intestinal track. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.920 That leaves you with the but the bubbleas bubble. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.680 So you know, no feeling, no cap and you know, I, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.760 like I said originally, when coach Zimmer first got hired 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.480 back here with the Dallas Cowboys, He's going to want 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.120 his guys and his type of guys, and you have 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.520 to give him that free reign to acquire his type 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.680 of guys. Eric Kendrick obviously is a big acquisition for him, 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.560 but he's going to have to feel the voice that 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.000 he sees fit on that side of the ball because 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.560 he's the new acquisition as a defensive coordinator now for 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.760 the Dallas Cowboys, So you have to give him the 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:57.679 ability to fill. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:58.960 The roster that he sees fit. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.320 Wow, still feeling voice that you have on the offense 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.680 side of the ball at the office line position and 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.000 the running back position. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.040 I don't think there's any question its Tyron Smith. And 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.880 the reason I believe that is because going through the 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.560 roster for something I'm working on tomorrow with the athletic is, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.120 I got nine spots that they need to fill right now, 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.120 and about four or five of those are starters, and 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.560 tyront Is certainly that left tackle spot is one of them. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.720 You know, I look at running back, I look at center, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.120 I look at possibly that number three corner, Depending on 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.400 where you are with Jordan Lewis and how Trayvon Diggs 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.160 comes back, you might need a third another starting CALIBERT 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.920 corner there, and then defensive tackle is another one where 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.319 you don't have Hankins, is Mazzi ready for that spot? 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.079 You might need a starter there, But outside of that, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.680 I just keep going back to the offensive line because 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.079 you clearly need three starters still that aren't on this team. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.080 And to me, that's the running back position, left tackle, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.640 and center. And so if you had Tyron Smith, let's 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.200 say they were signed into a similar deal, then you're 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.839 going in this draft being like, yeah, you got to 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.000 find an interior offensive lineman. Maybe hey, maybe you still 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.440 take a tackle at twenty four, and then you got 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.920 to fill that running back thing. But now you look 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.480 at it, you're like, you have to find a defense 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.440 or an offensive tackle because and let's be honest, this 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:10.640 isn't just a Tyron Smith thing. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.559 This is because you. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.920 Know, a Josh Ball, a Mett will let's go aren't 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.320 where you would hope they would be, you know, awesome Richards. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.800 So I almost feel like you have to add a 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.520 left tackle or a really good guard that pushes Tyler 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.680 Smith out to left tackle, and then one of those 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.439 will let's go Ball Richards. They have to at the 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.200 very least one of those has to be your swing 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:31.800 tackle at. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.360 Least, so again they've. 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.080 They've done their due diligence in terms of trying to 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.080 invest in that position. It's not like they're just like, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.640 uh oh, we gotta fell this void. Like they've been trying. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.320 These guys just have not been ready to step up yet. Well, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.000 and they're taking dark shots at a board, is what 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:45.439 they're doing. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.679 I mean, they're using a fifth round pick on Josh Ball, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.439 They're using a fifth round pick on Matt will Let's go. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.679 They're using a fifth round pick on Awesome Richards. I 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.319 mean they're using these Day three selections to just throw 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.480 a dart and see if it hits, and it hasn't necessarily. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.400 Hit, and hey, to be fair to them, it does 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.319 look like they found something with TJ. Bass who was 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.079 undrafted and Terreen Steele who was undrafted. So it's it's 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.839 kind of like almost the Calvin Joseph thing with me, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.920 where it's like, yes, Calvin Joseph, you missed on but 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.439 you also found dron Bland. So it's not like it's 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.880 not all doom and gloom, but I can see where 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.719 there would still be you know, critsism. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.760 And the one time that they've invested in the tackle 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:23.480 spots specifically even without Tyrone Smith at his availability being 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:23.920 in question. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.240 With Tyler Smith saying that he's going to be the 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:27.320 left tackle of the future. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.360 The only thing that changes out of that is the 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.000 fact that Tyler Smith is now a badass left guard 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.000 and you don't necessarily want to move him as an 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:35.680 all pro with the left guard spot, so you. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.160 Don't necessarily want to bump him out of that position. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.440 I have questions in regards to interior defensive line. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.839 Okay, with the acquisition of the hiring of Mike Zimbra 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.560 as a divisit quarter and coordinator. Now Freddy Cowboys, how 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.199 much of a role do you think he plays and 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.240 the reason why Jonathan Hankins has not been resigned yet. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.480 I don't think. I don't think that's a major role, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.000 because Hankins knows that there's a spot there for him 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:00.920 to walk into our next season if you were to 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.280 come back to the Cowboys. I think that's I think 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:04.880 that's assumed. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.040 It's interesting you say that because I think of Curse 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.760 a little bit jeering and curse only because of the 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.080 fact that Mike Zimmer was the coach when the Vikings 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.800 drafted him. Mike Zimmer was his coach those first four years. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.280 Now I will say, I do think that there's some 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.280 good depth a safety, so maybe that's different. But there's 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.679 also a part of me that thinks that with the 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.200 Hankins thing, they could be trying to be a little 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.920 cheap there, you know, Like you see, all these deals 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.400 are all one year deals, and maybe Hankins is kind 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.200 of holding out. He's in a position like I can 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:30.800 get a one year deal in a couple different places. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.280 Let me just kind of wait this thing out. Whatever, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.120 Let's see if my number goes up, because you guys 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.960 clearly need me, you know, So it could be. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:38.640 A combination of those. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.199 The Zimmer thing could be interesting too, But whatever way 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.480 it is, I feel like they need two defensive taxes. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.000 They need to. So that's what I'm saying. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.599 As you start going through this and free agency continues 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.000 on and the big names are gone, right, primarily that 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.560 most of the big names are gone, the impact names. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.120 I guess you would say out of the free agent 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.400 pool that at the beginning of the of this period, 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.160 most of those guys are gone. There's needs there aren't 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.280 once there are legit needs for the Dallas Cowboys, and 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.080 I think that's one of the frustrations for a lot 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.280 of Cowboys fans right now is the guys you talk 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.440 about all in they redefined it right and. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:14.120 They said that. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.200 You know, Stephen Jones mentioned the ability to resign your guys. Well, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.240 Jonathan Hankins is a necessity. I think that was the 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.360 first name that we all mentioned that needs to come back. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.880 I'm glad they got Jay Lou back. That's awesome, right, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.960 I know we didn't mention that yet, but that's huge 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.199 for them. He bought out last year, so kudos to him. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.439 They got good wing back. That was huge because he's 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.839 a special teamer. They lost Dori's armstrong. You know, so 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.760 you lose one special teamer, but you resigned another. But 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.360 you need Hankins back. And not only do you need Hankins, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.920 you need somebody to play next to Hankins while Mazie 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.000 still develops because he's not ready unless he put his 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.959 weight back on it, his mindset is ready to go 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.199 be an impact player this year. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.000 So you need Hankins to. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.520 Be resigned and you need another defense alignment that seemingly, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.160 at least in a free agent pool, most of those 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:57.760 guys are gone. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.560 Yeah, it'd be a Day two drive you draft pick. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:05.079 But then if for for Chouncy Golsli Fojoko filling in 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.760 there at all, that's what they were drafted for. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.880 Not big enough. Okay, especially Zimmer goes back to the edge. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.360 I think a three or five tech. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.520 Yeah, Hooko could be pushed into the three spot. He 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.000 won't be a one tech. But I think I think 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.280 Golston needs to drop the weight that they put on him. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.240 And they got too cute trying to fit him into 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.440 avoid they need to put them. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:26.160 But that's what I'm saying. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.640 Like, when I think about what has to happen with 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.800 this roster, especially defensively, I go back to the Zimmer 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.959 defenses of the past, right, the Zimmer defenses that I 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.400 played against, and I think about how the interior defensive 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.559 linemen were always ginormous. They were always ginormous because the 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.559 linebackers were able to run free. We've talked about this, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.280 you know, a ridiculous amount in terms of big defense alignment, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:47.960 not allowing office alignment to work up to the second 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.359 level and your linebackers. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:55.199 Backwards. You don't have that. You don't have one. You 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.120 don't currently on this roster. You don't have one. The 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.599 next biggest guy you had was Gallimore, He's gone and 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:02.319 don't be signed. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.800 Carlos Watkins or whatever is carl Davis Davis, dang it, Carlos. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:13.280 Knew So it made exactly. But you know what I'm saying. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.760 What I'm saying like, there are voids that not only 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.640 have to be filed, but they have to be filled 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.080 according to what he wants, and there's just not a 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.080 huge pool of it. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.960 And another thing is when you say defensive tackle, it's 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.640 it's not common for a defensive tackle to come out 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.000 of college and come in and dominate, especially in that 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.520 role that you're talking about, the big guy that eats 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.440 it up in the middle. Whereas like you can see 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.480 like a left tackle, especially one of these high first 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.640 round picks having some success immediately, you can see a 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.520 running back that you take in the second third round 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.120 coming in having some success. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.400 Media defensive tackle is not like that at all. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.080 So to your point, it's like you need to Hankins 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.560 obviously would feel one of them, but you'd almost want 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:53.840 to see them get two better ends. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.520 Absolutely, So I mean, you got two interior divids alignment, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.280 you got left tackle, you have a center, you need 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.640 a running back. Like draft picks are going off if 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.480 this is where you're going to acquire them, because free 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.400 agency looks pretty bleak right now, right, Yeah, If that's 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.360 where you're gonna acquire them, you're running out of picks 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:09.600 and you got to hit on all of them, and 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.360 you have to hit on all of them because last 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.040 year's draft didn't make hardly any contributions. Yeah, right, And 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.280 that is the reality that they find themselves in right now. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.840 And I think that's why most fans have the bubble 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.040 gups right now in regards to the Cowboys and their 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.200 roster and what they're doing. Obviously restructuring Deak and I'm 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.200 sure we're talking about that gives them a little bit 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.200 of space right now. I think that's more a little 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.760 bit gainsmanship going on right now between the two parties. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:35.000 But I'm not confident right now that they're in a 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.480 position to fill all their voids with the draft and 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.120 the remaining free agency pool. I just think there's gonna 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.080 be some voids that they're hoping on instead of knowing. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.200 Yeah, And I think there's also a level of expectation 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.240 of certain guys stepping up. We talked about the offensive 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.600 line with Matt will Let's go Josh Ball, guys like that. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.280 I mean, there's gonna be a huge opportunity for them. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.280 But you look at the running back position, Duce Vaughan, 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.120 there's an opportunity for him, Hunter Lucky to be able 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.240 to take some shorty yards stuffhere go doubt. Oh hey man, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.440 you're the leading returning rusher. Now you're gonna have to 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:01.960 be able to step into a role. Whether there's a 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.680 rookie or a veteran that comes in with him in 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.880 that room or not. If it's a tackle position, that's 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.640 a little bit different because all those bodies are gone. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.080 It's basically just Mazzie Smith and Carl Davis at this point. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:12.920 So you've got to be able to fill some fill 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.320 some spots there. But yeah, elsewhere, I think they're hoping 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.920 that there is some there's some uh, there's some certain 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.480 level of stepping up that that that those rooms need. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.440 We talked about the offensive line. I think that's probably 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.680 most important because well, let's go has been hurt. Josh 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.440 Ball was hurt all last year. Awesome Richards. He didn't 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:32.880 touch the field at all, even though he was on 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.160 the fifty three. So there's got to be some sort 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.920 of stepping up with one of those three guys. I 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.200 think that there's an expectation of that before. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.040 You move on percentage that Connor Williams comes back and 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:41.680 snaps the ball. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:52.120 H twelve percent Yeah, going like seven zero yeah, thanks, thanks, thanks, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:53.280 Beamer says zero. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.640 Uh man. It just feels like it's one of those 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.200 off seasons where hope is a strategy, and hope should 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.720 not be a strategy because you're hoping these guys step up. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.080 You're hoping that teams are going to let these guys 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.760 in free agency, let the contracts go down and then 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.120 you can afford them. And you got to I mean, John, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.000 you were talking about Jonathan Hankins trying to get a 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.920 bigger chunk of the cash. His cash hasn't been big 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.560 to begin with. Twenty twenty one, he was one point seven. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.920 He played on the veteran minimum in both twenty twenty 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.040 two and twenty twenty three with the Cowboys, so he 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.399 may want a significant chunk above that. But I mean 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.919 we're talking about probably five hundred k, right, I mean, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.560 he probably isn't going to get to two million. He's 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.520 probably gonna be right around that one point six to 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.720 one point seven Mark again, and. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.320 That seems worth it to me because, like I said, man, 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:44.719 it's just I would do that right now. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.040 It's a veteran not my money though, right it's not 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:48.520 my money. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.200 It's it's a veteran player who plays a position that 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.720 young guys generally don't come in and dominate right away. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.800 So it'd be one thing if the Cowboys were sitting 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:00.600