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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back to the Herd.

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Speaker 2: It's me Jason McIntyre filly in for Colin Cowhard, who is.

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Speaker 3: Jet sitting as usual. I can't say where he is,

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Speaker 3: but trust he is in a good spot, enjoying his

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Speaker 3: two weeks off. We've been off for a little while

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Speaker 3: due to the Women's FIFA World Cup, but we're back today.

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Speaker 3: It's me Jason joined by Alex Curry. I know you

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Speaker 3: guys are waiting. Alex is close. It's getting don't put

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Speaker 3: that out there. We're definitely in the red zone. But

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Speaker 3: we're doing great. We're feeling great. We're excited to be

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Speaker 3: here today. Fast I said, show listen when you take it.

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Speaker 3: When you're off for a few days, you got a

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Speaker 3: lot of news. We got Albert Breer coming up next hour,

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Speaker 3: jovon Buja with our Big Lakers, update here in about

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes. Eric Mangini Final hour shout out to my guy,

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Speaker 3: Eric Mangini, He's sick of Aaron Rodgers. Yes, I knew

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Speaker 3: I could get other people to the place where I've

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Speaker 3: been for a while. Anyways, I want to start the

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Speaker 3: show with text messaging. Well, not totally, but kinda sorta.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers made a big splash here in the last

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Speaker 3: week picking up DeAndre Ayton, the disgruntled center who was

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Speaker 3: cut loose by the Portland Trailblazers. And I know a

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Speaker 3: lot of people instantly poo pooed this deal as out,

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Speaker 3: this is no big deal. Aton's a malcontent.

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Speaker 4: Jay.

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Speaker 5: Did you see the story.

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Speaker 3: In the Athletic about DeAndre aid and guy was a

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Speaker 3: jerk last year. He would come out of games and

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Speaker 3: slam chairs down. You'd be late to rehab. He would

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Speaker 3: be late for team flights. I said, guys, guys, guys,

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Speaker 3: this is how much DeAndre Ayton hated it in Portland.

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Speaker 3: He forfeited ten million dollars to get out of town

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Speaker 3: on a bad team. He saw that they drafted as replacement.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't feeling it. And DeAndre Ayton leaves Portland for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. Now, I know you guys, even if you

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Speaker 3: want to say Aten's not that good of a player,

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Speaker 3: I you know, we have a great staff who comes

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Speaker 3: up with some amazing stats. And let's just say, DeAndre

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Speaker 3: Ayton through his first seven seasons is kind of sort

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Speaker 5: These stats are here, fifteen and ten and.

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Speaker 3: Fifty percent shooting in the last seven seasons. Jokich is

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Speaker 3: an MVP, Giannis is an MVP. AD's all NBA, Duelle

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Speaker 3: Embiide has an MVP, cat and Sabonis. These are all

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Speaker 3: great players. DeAndre Ayton's in that class with them. He

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Speaker 3: just obviously was in Portland, so nobody paid attention. I

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Speaker 3: where I'm about to go, folks. So it's understandable that

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Speaker 3: Aton hated life in Portland, and at thirty two million,

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Speaker 3: Portland probably hated him too. However, DeAndre Ayten's making eight

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Speaker 3: million dollars with the Lakers. I looked this up.

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Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert's at like thirty six million. On any planet

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Speaker 3: Is Rudy Gobert four times the player DeAndre Ayton is

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Speaker 3: hell no, He's not even two times the player eight

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Speaker 3: and is a great defender obviously, but Aiden's a better

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Speaker 3: offensive player. But it was telling this week when Aydon

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Speaker 3: asked if he's heard from Lebron and he said, no,

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Speaker 3: not really. You either hear from someone or you don't.

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Speaker 3: He probably realized he stepped in it by saying no,

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Speaker 3: from Luca. Luca texted me and that kind of put

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Speaker 3: the antenna up. Okay, okay, okay. When we last left

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Speaker 3: this show, Lebron was sending cryptic messages to the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: Remember the welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Hat in Cleveland, Alex and I got a good chuckle

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Speaker 3: out of that. Playing golf in Ohio. As free agency started,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, well, what's going on with Lebron? Does

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Speaker 3: last night. He's waiting for one piece, guys, there is

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Speaker 5: Before Lebron is fully bought in.

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Speaker 3: Is he probably a little perturbed that the Lakers are

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Speaker 3: catering to Luca not him? Well, yeah, that's natural, right.

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Speaker 3: Lebron's been the alpha on every team he's been in

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Speaker 5: That happens. But I have the answer and it came

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Speaker 3: Now, I will warn you when I presented this missing

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Speaker 3: a couple groans and a side eye. And let's just

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Speaker 3: say not everybody was feeling it. But if you've been

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Speaker 3: following what's going on in Phoenix right now, the Suns

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Speaker 3: cannot find a taker for Bradley Beal, and by all accounts,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to wave and stretch him the same

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Speaker 3: way Milwaukee dumped Damian Lillard. Well, listen, Bradley Beal making

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Speaker 3: fifty million dollars a year is not a great part

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Speaker 5: He's overpaid at fifty mili.

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Speaker 3: Now Bradley Beal gets bought out and waved and stretched

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Speaker 3: and suddenly he looks like Russell Wilson. You guys remember

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Right, he signs this lucrative deal in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton quickly realizes this ain't gonna work. Not at

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Speaker 3: Russ says, not happening, and they dump him. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: thirty seven million. No, Russell Wilson at one million a

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Speaker 3: year with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Sign me up. And the

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Speaker 3: Steelers got to the playoff. They lost to the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: but they still made the playoffs. And you had a

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Speaker 3: quarterback at one million dollars, Which brings me to Bradley Beal. Folks,

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Speaker 3: I get it. You think Beal's washed. I disagree. He's

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Speaker 3: only thirty two. His numbers last year thirty eight percent

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Speaker 5: Those are good numbers.

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Speaker 3: On a bad team. At fifty million, they're not great numbers. Now,

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Speaker 3: if Bradley Beal hits the market and the Lakers can

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Speaker 3: grab him at four or five million dollars a year, well,

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Speaker 3: who's better than the Lakers. And don't say, okay, see

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Speaker 3: you give me closing games, starting whatever, closing games eight Lebron,

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Speaker 3: Luca Beal and Reeves. Who's stopping that offense? The Lakers

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Speaker 3: need catch and shoot guys. Hey, Austin Reed goes spot up. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Bradley Beal goes spot up, catch and shoot threes, bang bang.

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Speaker 3: Now the defense is obviously gonna be a question. But

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Speaker 5: Now Lebron was banged up, he's old.

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Speaker 3: I think Bradley Beal is the missing piece for the

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Speaker 5: Win the West.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Houston is elite, we know that. Obviously, Denver very

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Speaker 3: very good, much improved, and okase, he should be very

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Speaker 5: And I believe since the twenty nineteen Warriors.

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Speaker 3: So the Lakers are missing one piece, and I think

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Speaker 3: at that point lebrono buy in. That piece is Bradley Beal.

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Speaker 3: Now the Celtics kind of want him. The Clippers are

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Speaker 3: starting spot to offer him. And the Milwaukee Bucks, hey, Beale,

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Speaker 3: come and take all the shots you want with Giannis.

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Speaker 3: We have no back court. But do you have a

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Speaker 3: better chance to get out of the East. Sure, but

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Speaker 3: it's the Lakers, Beal.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what you can make off the court?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what Lebron and Luca are gonna do

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Speaker 3: to your numbers? I think it's a no brainer. The

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Speaker 3: Lakers get bial to me, they become right there, one

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Speaker 3: of the favorites in the Western Conference. Now I want

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Speaker 5: Now, let me give you a quick little backstory.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we know Dion hits Colorado and oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: what an impact on college football. Obviously, having shiduor Sanders

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Speaker 5: And some of these numbers that we're seeing now are.

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Speaker 3: Becoming astronomical, and it's becoming pretty clear college football is

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Speaker 3: if you didn't believe it before, it's now paid to play.

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Speaker 3: If you spend the money, your chances of getting to

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Speaker 3: the playoff and winning a Natty increased greatly. Oregon last year,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's crazy. You'll look AT's been in excess

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Speaker 6: I wish it was a cap, you know, like the

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Speaker 6: top of the line player makes this, and if you're

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Speaker 6: is you got a guy that's not that durn good,

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Speaker 6: can't compete with that. That don't make sense. See, all

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Speaker 6: you had to do is look at the playoffs and

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Speaker 6: somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars of during

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Speaker 6: freshman class it is. It's crazy. The team that pays

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of baseball owners and general

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Speaker 3: managers seeing this right now are like, hey, we could

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Speaker 3: use a salary cap. Not gonna happen. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: what's next? Are we going to get a union for

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Speaker 3: was like, that's not terrible. I don't hate it. However,

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Speaker 5: That happened on the fourth of July.

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Speaker 3: You guys probably missed this celebrating with hot dogs and fireworks,

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Speaker 3: but there's a young man named Felix Ojoe who is

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Speaker 3: one of the best offensive tackles in the country, and

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Speaker 3: he was ticketing to go to the Texas Long Horns.

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Speaker 3: Everybody thought, oh, that's a lock for Texas, and then

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Speaker 3: out of nowhere comes big spending Texas Tech, the Red Raiders,

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Speaker 5: Now, Texas fans.

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Speaker 5: Damn Texan.

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Speaker 3: Where are they getting this money from. Theyve got a billionaire,

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Speaker 7: College needs to instigate and to build that type of

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Speaker 3: there was a w NBA game yesterday. I'm not even kidding,

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Speaker 3: at like one in the afternoon. I didn't know that

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Speaker 3: So I don't really play a lot of video games anymore.

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Speaker 3: Trust me. In college, I would destroy anyone who wanted

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Speaker 3: I did not know WNBA players grace the cover of

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Speaker 3: Polarizing stelf So, if you have a video game and

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Speaker 3: you put Kitlin Clark on the cover, Okay, she runs

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Speaker 3: Angel Reese is better, No, she's not, although she's playing

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Speaker 5: She is a She's a bankable star.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to Instagram followers, five million people like Angel.

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Speaker 5: Talking about it.

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Speaker 5: Answer? Who cares? It's not really, That's not what it's about.

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Speaker 11: The move comes after Tom Thibodeau was fired just three

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Speaker 12: We have an outstanding roster. What they did in the

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Speaker 11: But yeah, expectations are going to be sky high, as

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Speaker 11: the question is is this going to be the right fit?

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Speaker 11: it's you're you're a diehard Knicks fans?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 11: Are your expectations as high as everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this is going to work?

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Speaker 5: The Lakers in mix right, and he coached the Calves.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of emotional question marks that are going

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Speaker 11: bringing in a new guy. But again, like as you

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Speaker 11: hear him talk like Mike Brown is the real deal.

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Speaker 11: He's a two time Coach of the Year, Like, this

435
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Speaker 11: is a guy that knows what it takes to win

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Speaker 11: and you believe him, and it feels like just listening

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Speaker 11: to him, you're like, okay, yeah, you're you can walk

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Speaker 11: into a room and immediately be a leader.

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Speaker 5: So obviously he's good.

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Speaker 3: In the press conference, there are some stories about how

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Speaker 3: he wants to practice too much and he's kind of

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Speaker 3: a hard charging practice guy.

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Speaker 11: That's a style.

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Speaker 5: But Alex does that work in the NBA?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Again, it depends on who your players are. Yeah, and

447
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Speaker 11: if they're willing to put how.

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Speaker 3: About this, I'll give it a give it a two

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Speaker 3: month window at the beginning of the season in where

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Speaker 3: like last year things struggled out of the gate with

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Speaker 3: Karl Anthon downs and bridges they did.

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Speaker 5: Now you got your same core, better bench.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how Brown works with the guys, I'll give him

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Speaker 3: a two months before I totally judge this.

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Speaker 11: I'm like, if they're like, I do not like to

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Speaker 11: say all star breaks because like that's a good like

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Speaker 11: chunk of the season, half of the season, because again,

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Speaker 11: like it's gonna take so it can take some time

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Speaker 11: to get your chemistry and the groove going, and that

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Speaker 11: gives you a little a little added like, Okay, it's

461
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Speaker 11: been half the season, what's going on here? So but yeah,

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Speaker 11: we'll see if it's gonna work. But let's stick in

463
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Speaker 11: the NBA because Nikola Jokic has three years left on

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Speaker 11: the five year deal he signed back in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 11: but he's currently eligible for a three year, two hundred

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Speaker 11: million dollar extension. Reports indicate that Jokic will wait until

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Speaker 11: next summer for extension talks, and by doing so, he

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Speaker 11: can add an additional year and seventy seven million dollars

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Speaker 11: to the extension that he could earn this offseason. Now,

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Speaker 11: I don't think there is any need to rush for you,

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Speaker 11: o Kitsch. Like there was a lot of change that

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Speaker 11: happened last year. The biggest one firing your head coach

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Speaker 11: and your GM what like three games three weeks. It

474
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Speaker 11: was something insane before the playoffs when they were in

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Speaker 11: a playoff spot, high playoff spot. So the way the

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Speaker 11: season ended, I mean there's a lot of new because

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Speaker 11: now you have a new head coach, you have the

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Speaker 11: new GM. They've made some decent trades this offseason. See

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Speaker 11: what happens in Denver next season, and see if this

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Speaker 11: is the place that he wants to be and if

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Speaker 11: it's the right fit.

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Speaker 3: So I think obviously he can make more money delaying it, right.

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's for him. It's not about the money.

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Speaker 11: You've seen him like he's even talked about it, Like

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Speaker 11: he doesn't care about all the accolades. He doesn't care

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Speaker 11: about like his off season he's going, he's being like

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Speaker 11: a normal guy in his home country, Like that's that's

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Speaker 11: what he likes to do. He comes here, he plays

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Speaker 11: the game, one of the greatest to do it right now.

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Speaker 11: But I don't see it being necessarily about the money.

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Speaker 11: I see it being more about what are we going

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Speaker 11: to be this year?

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Speaker 5: So let me ask.

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Speaker 3: The Euros historically or international players have been like they're

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Speaker 3: not jumping around like KD and Lebron.

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Speaker 5: They're just going to their team in staying. Yeah, Luca

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Speaker 5: was traded, Yeah out of it.

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Speaker 11: He didn't want to be, did not want to be,

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Speaker 11: did not want.

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Speaker 4: To be shipped him.

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Speaker 3: Jannis chatter is out there and now Jokic's delaying an extension.

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Speaker 3: Or the European guys suddenly wait, maybe they're not as committed.

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Speaker 5: To their teams.

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Speaker 11: And again, Luca, den shouldn't be. They shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: Now you're onto something.

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Speaker 11: They shouldn't be loyal to their teams. They've all done

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Speaker 11: something great for their original teams. Luca brought the MAVs

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Speaker 11: to a championship and then they traded him, brought him

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Speaker 11: a championship. But now they've been what knocked out Like, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I haven't been years in the first round, like and

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Speaker 11: in Denver, they got a lot of they have a

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Speaker 11: lot of new and a lot of dysfunction we did

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Speaker 11: not know about last season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this leads me to believe that if the Nuggets

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Speaker 3: don't live up to expectations.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I wait a year. There's no need

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Speaker 11: to rush right now.

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Speaker 3: Let's say they get bounced in.

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Speaker 5: The first round. Oh oh, I mean is going to

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Speaker 5: hit the market?

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Speaker 3: I do not. You said a good thing that the

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Speaker 3: teams shouldn't. Teams aren't committed to the players.

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Speaker 5: So why should you. Yeah, we have an NFL story

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Speaker 5: coming later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah about how you think you're the guy and the

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Speaker 3: team's like they're willing to move off anybody.

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Speaker 11: You forget it's a business? Are you are just a

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Speaker 11: pawn in this business? Everybody? Yeah, Like you can be

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Speaker 11: with someplace for decades and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 11: one day you're gone. It's like, oh wow, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 11: you forget very easily. Everything is a business. Expos it's entertainment,

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Speaker 11: but it's also a business, which is why. Okay, let's

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Speaker 11: end things with the Gold Cup, because we are in

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Speaker 11: the summer of soccer where the US Men weren't able

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Speaker 11: to capitalize on an early one nothing lead, falling to

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Speaker 11: Mexico to one in the final. Now, despite the loss,

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Speaker 11: Friend of the Show Lexi Lawless gave a ton of

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Speaker 11: credit to the team, creating a new identity when.

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Speaker 13: Mauricio Pochettino and his staff. Look at what they accomplished

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Speaker 13: with this tournament. I think that they're going to find

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Speaker 13: a whole lot of value in establishing almost a new

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Speaker 13: identity and finding out what they what they are, but

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Speaker 13: more importantly, what they want to become next summer. They

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Speaker 13: need them to be the best individually and collectively as

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Speaker 13: a team, but.

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Speaker 5: They're going to have to conform, They're going.

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Speaker 13: To have to adapt to this new identity.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of things to unpack about this US

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Speaker 11: group right now. Right that there was a lot of

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Speaker 11: chatter heading into the Gold Cup with their stars choosing

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Speaker 11: plusk being like one of the biggest ones not to play.

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Speaker 11: Choosing not to represent your country in a home tournament

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Speaker 11: a year out of a World Cup doesn't sit well

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Speaker 11: with me. It does not sit well.

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Speaker 5: Like's not appy.

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Speaker 11: But there's also a lot of positives to take out

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Speaker 11: of this right because you got your B and C

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Speaker 11: level guys that are just fighting to prove that they

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Speaker 11: deserve to be here, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 11: them did. A lot of them showed that this US

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Speaker 11: group might be a little deeper than we all thought

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Speaker 11: and expected, which is needed because we are hosting the

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Speaker 11: World Cup next summer. Now, I don't know if we

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Speaker 11: got any necessary like starters. They're going to kick off

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Speaker 11: any starters on the team. But it kind of maybe

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Speaker 11: lights of fire under the guys that chose not to

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Speaker 11: be here, Like, hey, you, your spot might not be

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Speaker 11: as safe as you think it is because we can

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Speaker 11: figure it out and we can find ways to win,

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Speaker 11: especially when you have a brand new coach at butch

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Speaker 11: Tino like, this is a big deal. This is a

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Speaker 11: first big tournament with your new coach, and your stars

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Speaker 11: aren't there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't get who worked up about that.

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Speaker 5: But listening to.

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Speaker 3: What Lala said about the whole identity, Okay, what is

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Speaker 3: that identity?

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Speaker 5: He says, find a.

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Speaker 11: Way to win being scrappy, like when he was on

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Speaker 11: the show here he said, even when you watch some

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Speaker 11: of the top the top teams play each other, it's

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Speaker 11: not beautiful soccer's you're going to war.

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Speaker 5: It is chopping.

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Speaker 11: You are doing whatever you can just to get that

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Speaker 11: ball in the back of the net. You're not necessarily

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Speaker 11: playing the most beautiful style of game. It's I'm going

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Speaker 11: to do whatever it takes to win. And that's I

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Speaker 11: think what we saw with a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 3: My issue with that is in the Mexico game, you

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Speaker 3: take the one nothing leading like the fourth minute, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then they sat on their hands.

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Speaker 11: It was a spicy game though it was physical. It

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Speaker 11: was spicy, but you knew there was there was a

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Speaker 11: lot more than just the soccer game. There was a

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Speaker 11: lot going on. There was a lot of pride and

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Speaker 11: obviously what's going on in our world right now between.

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Speaker 3: These two teas scrappiness. I didn't see it when they

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Speaker 3: led one nothing. I saw like a complacent team that

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Speaker 3: sat back defensively and kind of got run over by Mexico.

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Speaker 5: And I get it.

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Speaker 3: Mexico had the better team, had.

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Speaker 11: Their hand ball, and they had their.

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Speaker 3: And they got the teenager who looked amazing handball in

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Speaker 3: the box should have been called what I can't go overboard.

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Speaker 3: But yes, overall I would say huge win for the

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Speaker 3: US state win.

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Speaker 10: Just it was great.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, find the silver lining in this situation with

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Speaker 11: your B and C level guys.

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Speaker 5: Alex with the news.

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Speaker 10: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 10: herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: All right, coming up next this Bradley Beald chatter. Is

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Speaker 3: it Clippers, Lakers, Bucks, Celtics. Boy, he would be huge

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Speaker 3: with the Lakers. We'll talk to an insider next.

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Speaker 5: You're on the Herd.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: and noon Eastern non a em Pacific.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers have been in the news all the time.

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Speaker 3: Jovon Bouja, formerly of the Athletic He's got a new

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Speaker 3: job coming up. He's got his Booha's Block podcast hasn't

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Speaker 3: invited me on, but whatever he's going to. He's going

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Speaker 3: to the Summer League tonight for what it in like

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Speaker 3: an hour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going straight to the airport.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ronnie versus Cooper Flag?

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Speaker 4: Huh Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that how it's being Bill Cooper flag versus a

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Speaker 3: fifty eight figure fifty fifth Sorry, Apologe. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: that soon, but we've got to start, obviously with DeAndre

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Speaker 3: Aighton giving his first interview since going to Lakers, and

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Speaker 3: I think people are already past his failures in Portland

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Speaker 3: and forfeiting ten million dollars to get out of town,

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Speaker 3: he said. Lebron has not texted him, but Luca has. Now,

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Speaker 3: you had a great nugget last time that Austin Reeves

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Speaker 3: and Jake Lavia share an agent. Doesn't Luca share an

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Speaker 3: agent with DeAndre Jordan? So maybe that's like agent or

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Speaker 3: is there something should we read something into this?

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Speaker 14: So so I've heard they have a good rapport, like

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Speaker 14: by NBA standards, a good rapport between Luca and DeAndre

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Speaker 14: eight and so they share an agent. They were the

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Speaker 14: top two top three picks in the same draft twenty

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Speaker 14: eighteen draft eight and went first, Luca went third.

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Speaker 4: Their families have met each other.

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Speaker 5: Like they have a rapport.

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Speaker 14: So Luca told was on board with Ayton coming on

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Speaker 14: and like he got the stamp of approval. So Luca's

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Speaker 14: excited to have a pick and roll partner. And like

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Speaker 14: DeAndre Ayton for all of the discourse around him, will say,

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Speaker 14: has been statistically one of the most efficient pick and

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Speaker 14: roll threats, pick and roll finishers, lob threats like over

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Speaker 14: the last few years. So I think Luca's excited, like

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Speaker 14: certainly an upgrade over Jackson. Hayes will say, so, like,

654
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Speaker 14: I think, like this is a guy who's been double

655
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 14: double every year of his career. Obviously there's been some

656
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 14: questions with the motor and whatnot, but like, yeah, I

657
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 14: think like he's effectively in a contract year, so he's

658
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 14: got a lot to prove, and he talked about like

659
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 14: this situation fueling him and like, yeah, I thought the

660
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 14: best line of his whole press conference was I can't

661
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 14: run from this, Like I picked this platform, I can't

662
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 14: hide from this now. So this is going to be

663
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 14: the most scrutiny in spotlight he's dealt with in his

664
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 14: career playing for the Lakers as their starting center.

665
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: So we'll see what he's made of.

666
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: And it feels like maybe you know, you'd always been saying,

667
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: I just got to get that I can contract a

668
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: big one.

669
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 5: He got that.

670
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: So he's been paid, and now they lost in the

671
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: finals when he was like twenty two in Phoenix. Does

672
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: he marginally change the Lakers or significantly change them?

673
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 5: Because I mean, again, they had nothing at center last year.

674
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 14: I think it's probably somewhere in between, just because again,

675
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 14: like if you go back to the playoffs a couple

676
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 14: of months ago, they literally could not play a center

677
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 14: like JJ Reddick lost all trust in Jackson Hayes and

678
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 14: it got to the point where they were through Maxi

679
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 14: Kliba in a game five after he missed like three

680
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 14: months with a foot injury and foot surgery. So it's

681
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 14: like that showed you that the level of Now it's interesting.

682
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 14: Jackson Hayes' is back, and I think as a backup

683
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 14: he's fine. He also does share an agent with Luca

684
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 14: and DeAndre Ayton, so they're yeah. I mean, I think

685
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 14: these are all positive signs for Luca's upcoming extension on

686
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 14: August second.

687
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 3: Okay, so a lot of Luca talk, Jovann, you're not

688
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: talking about Lebron a lot what's going on.

689
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 14: It's been quiet, and you know, I came on here

690
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 14: and we talked about it, like, I don't think he's

691
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 14: going to get traded. I think this has been just

692
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 14: him putting some pressure on the organization because he sees

693
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 14: the finish line and he's trying to get them to

694
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 14: move that first round pick to invest in this year's

695
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 14: roster and not look ahead to twenty twenty six or

696
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 14: twenty twenty seven, because there's the report by ESPN that

697
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 14: they're trying to keep the cap sheet clean for the

698
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 14: summer of twenty twenty seven, when Giannis could potentially be available,

699
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 14: or is it Yokic available either for trade or to

700
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 14: sign one of those guys Yokish would still be under contract,

701
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 14: but like, does someone want out at that point? And

702
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 14: then the Lakers have the flexibility with multiple picks, some

703
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 14: expiring contracts, and maybe some young players at that point

704
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 14: that like you could flip that for the next star

705
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 14: post Lebron. So I think he's been trying to put

706
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 14: some pressure on them to do something and we'll see,

707
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 14: I guess the rest of this month.

708
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: If they do it, let's ask is there a deal

709
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: to be had right now with their twenty twenty six first,

710
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: By the way, the twenty twenty six draft class is

711
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: pretty damn good a lot of them players, but like

712
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: dolta connect in the first that's not getting you much.

713
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 14: So they can't trade the twenty twenty six. It has

714
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 14: to be the twenty thirty one or thirty two. So

715
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 14: I guess the upside there is like you are betting

716
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 14: on what are the Lakers are going to look like

717
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 14: in six or seven years, which Luca will be. I

718
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 14: guess what thirty two to thirty three should still be

719
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 14: in like maybe the tail end of his prime, but

720
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 14: still probably in his prime.

721
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 4: I think that pick has value.

722
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 14: I think the issue has been, like we've seen teams

723
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 14: start to value first round picks again in a way

724
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 14: that they hadn't for the last few years. So if

725
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 14: you look at it, like some of these trades that

726
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 14: have happened, like guy, the prices for guys have dropped,

727
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 14: with the exception of like the Michael Porter junior trade

728
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 14: with Cam Johnson, Like first round picks aren't flying around anymore.

729
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 14: So I do think if they put Dalton connect and

730
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 14: the first on the table, they could get in some

731
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 14: conversations that, like on paper, maybe you wouldn't expect them to,

732
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 14: but it doesn't seem like they want to do that.

733
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: It seems like.

734
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 14: They like having a first going into the season and

735
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 14: having that flexibility to maybe make a move or make

736
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 14: a move down the road. So I'm a little skeptical

737
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 14: right now, but it's fluid.

738
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: So you reported Lebron and the Lakers management not getting

739
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: along great. Is this because maybe Lebron he's just upset

740
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: that he's no longer the guy to build around.

741
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 5: And it's Luca. Is this impouting? Does he have a

742
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 5: player in mind?

743
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: What?

744
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 14: I think it's a little bit of all that, right, Like,

745
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 14: this is the first time you could say in Lebron's

746
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 14: career he hasn't been the sole focus or the primary

747
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 14: focus of his franchise that he's been on. Like even

748
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 14: with Ad, it was all like it was always Lebron

749
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 14: trying to pass the baton to Ad. Luca just came

750
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 14: in and got the baton right from the owner. He

751
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 14: was handed it on a golden pillow. So and understandably so,

752
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 14: because he's a top at worst, top five player in

753
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 14: the league, if not top three, with the upside to

754
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 14: be the best player in.

755
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: My opinion and win an MVP. So like, I get it.

756
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: He's a guy who's about to.

757
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 14: Enter his prime, has already led a team to the finals.

758
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 14: But Lebron's just I think the big thing is like

759
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 14: he sees the finish line, whether it's another year, two years,

760
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 14: and he wants to win that fifth ring. And it

761
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 14: doesn't feel like the Lakers are going all in on

762
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 14: this year's roster. They're trying to kind of split the

763
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 14: baby yet. But even if I mean, I guess if

764
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 14: they trade the first I'll say that's going all in.

765
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 14: But anything short of that, it is kind of like

766
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 14: a half measure in terms of like trying to make

767
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 14: this year's roster better but also keeping that flexibility, Like

768
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 14: those two things are kind of at odds. Yeah, and

769
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 14: but it seems like they're prioritizing the future.

770
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: Remember with like the James Wiseman too, they won.

771
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 14: A title, like they kind of did the best version

772
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 14: of it. Obviously the Wiseman pick didn't work out, but

773
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 14: they were able to rebuild quickly, get back to the finals,

774
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 14: win a championship, and then now obviously you know, we'll

775
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 14: see with them.

776
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: So that brings me to Bradley Beal.

777
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: So the Suns cannot seem to find a taker for

778
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: him with that contract, so they'll have to.

779
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 5: Wave and stretch.

780
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was saying at the outset, feel at

781
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: fifty mil not really good? Feel at five mil amazing?

782
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: Do you anticipate that to happen to Bale? And then

783
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: who are the main contenders.

784
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 14: For sounds like the Clippers are the main above the Lakers. Yeah,

785
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 14: because they could offer him a starting spot with the Lakers.

786
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 14: It gets a little dicey if you look at like

787
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 14: Luca Austin b Lebron a lot of firepower, but defensively

788
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 14: that's going to.

789
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Be but they're closing lineup with one hundred percent have

790
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: deal eight.

791
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 14: But again but then I just think that defense isn't

792
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 14: good enough if you just look at right, like but.

793
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 3: When the offense overcompensate for it with Beal and Reeis

794
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: on the perimeter.

795
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 14: Maybe, but I think, I mean we kind of saw

796
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 14: Phoenix try to do that approach with Katie Booker and

797
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 14: Biel and be like, you know, like they tried to

798
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 14: go the all wing offensive approach and it just didn't

799
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 14: really work.

800
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 4: So I'm personally skeptical. Like I'm of two minds.

801
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 14: Be All at five million dollars great value, and the

802
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 14: Lakers I think need a talent upgrade. So like from

803
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 14: that perspective, you could talk me into it, I just

804
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 14: think he would have to buy into probably a six

805
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 14: man role and selectively close, Like there might be some

806
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 14: matchups where it's like we need more defense, so you're

807
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 14: not closing tonight. And is he okay with that? I

808
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 14: think he's still trying to get back to being a starter.

809
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 14: And because you also got to think about his next contract, right,

810
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 14: So like in the NBA, once you accept events roll,

811
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 14: once you get bought out, like there is like a

812
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 14: stamp on you that I think affects like your perception

813
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 14: and like your next deal, Like very few guys are

814
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 14: able to get bought out and like rehab their value.

815
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 14: So I think once you you know, now you're making

816
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 14: five million dollars, now you're coming off the bench, maybe

817
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 14: next contracts like a mid level contract. So I think

818
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 14: for him maybe going to the Clippers or going to

819
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 14: like Milwaukee, I think would be come not from like

820
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 14: a competition perspective, but like he could be the number

821
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 14: two guys in Milwaukee and like really show.

822
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: Let's back up, what does Bradley Beal want? He's made

823
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: a I can't say that word.

824
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: He's made a lot.

825
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: Of money, a lot of money.

826
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: What does he want?

827
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: Has he been to a conference finals to no second

828
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: round with the Wizards? Like, does he want to win

829
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: or make more money on top of the you know,

830
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: he's probably made two hundred million in his career. I'm

831
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: just guessing probably more than that. Yeah, do you want

832
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: to win? Like also going to the Lakers versus going

833
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: to the Clippers, Like the Lakers are going to be

834
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: on more TV games, They're the most high profile team

835
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: in the league. Yeah, I mean the money he could

836
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: make off the court with the Lakers.

837
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 5: I don't know what is his wife?

838
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 14: So I agree, Like I understand that the arguments for

839
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 14: the Lakers. I just think if the Clippers are offering

840
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 14: a starting role in like thirty minutes a night and

841
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 14: the Lakers can't quite match that, I think at that point,

842
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 14: you know that that's a potential differentip.

843
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: What is who is the Beal hardened that court stopping?

844
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, I think we could run some

845
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 4: pick and roll against that.

846
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 5: I would like to think, so I just listened.

847
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: I think Beal at five mil, yeah, might be the

848
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: best contract in the league given what he I mean,

849
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 3: if you could put up seventeen.

850
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: He's still better than like people have given him.

851
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 14: Like I think he's gotten a little too much flat

852
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 14: because of the contract and because of how much a

853
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 14: failure that Phoenix situation was. Where he's still average, like

854
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 14: seventeen four and four last year, thirty nine percent three

855
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 14: point shooter.

856
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: Like, he's still he's still good. It's just not fifty

857
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 4: million dollars good.

858
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: So basically, in a perfect world, the Lakers get eight

859
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: and at eight and Beal at five two, you know,

860
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: awesome rotational players for thirteen mil. That would be a

861
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: home run. They'd get an a would that get Lebron,

862
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: do you think to buy in and get out of

863
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: this funk or whatever he's dealing with right now.

864
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 14: I think he's going to buy in. I think, like,

865
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 14: I think it's gonna work out. I don't know if

866
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 14: that's enough. Like I Lebron's always trade the picks, like

867
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 14: that is like Lebron's motto is trade the picks.

868
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: So if you don't trade the picks.

869
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 14: And you're not, you know, exhausting all resources to improve

870
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 14: the roster, because you could still sign Beal and trade

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Speaker 14: the picks and improve the like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 14: or trade d pick and then they got a.

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Speaker 4: Few pick swaps.

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Speaker 14: So I think for Lebron, you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 14: of things going on with the situation, but I think

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Speaker 14: he will be a Laker starting whenever late September.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to tonight's game. Cooper Flag making

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Speaker 3: his debut. It's against Bronnie. Bronnie has been up and down,

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Speaker 3: fair to say them better lately. You know, these guys

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Speaker 3: online just put together clip reels of all the bad money.

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Speaker 14: That Dunk was incredible. Dunk was incredible, Like I think

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Speaker 14: that bounced from him was a Laker.

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Speaker 3: Just your thoughts on on what flag would what are

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Speaker 3: reasonable expectations tonight twenty Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Like I want to see the versatile skill set from him,

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Speaker 14: because I think he's someone i've the more i've like

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Speaker 14: studied his game and try to come up with like

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Speaker 14: an NBA comp I think it's more like an alpha

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Speaker 14: Sean Marion, which which is like Sean Marion, really good player,

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Speaker 14: multi time All Star and Olympian like and but I

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Speaker 14: said out like, I think he's got more of that

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Speaker 14: like number one or number two type score gene that

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Speaker 14: Marion is more of like a number three, But he's

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Speaker 14: got that Marian skill set of like, I think he's

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Speaker 14: going to be a guy at his peak, can play

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Speaker 14: three through five, can do just defend multiple positions, can

897
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Speaker 14: bring the ball up, run, pick and roll, but also

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Speaker 14: attack and come off screens and stuff.

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Speaker 4: So he can do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 14: In terms of tonight, I mean this is arguably the

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Speaker 14: most exciting day.

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Speaker 3: Say tonight, it's a big one Zion, right.

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Speaker 14: I would say Zion twenty nineteen. There was an earthquake

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Speaker 14: that night, so we'll see. But yeah, twenty points, We'll

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Speaker 14: say