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Horrific horrific story that we covered some 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: yesterday and now we know who the perpetrator is. Yesterday 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: five in the morning at a metro stop at the 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Studio City on Lancasham, a woman was stabbed in the 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: throat and she was stabbed so viciously that she died. 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: There was a tremendous loss of blood. Nobody even wanted 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: to go nearer there was so much blood coming out 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: of her. Well, they got the guy, so the police say. 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: And Blake Trolley is with us from KFI News to 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: give us more detail. 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 3: Lake, Yeah, John, So we're learning more about the guy 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: accused of violently stabbing that woman on that metro train yesterday. 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: But we're also learning more about the crime. 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: You know, yesterday, the way they described this attack was unprovokeable. 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: Now it appears that Elliott Nawden, who is homeless, stabbed 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: this woman several times, including in the throat, because he 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: was stealing her purse while she was on her way 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: home from work. We're told that she got on the 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: train from North Hollywood and she was heading towards downtown LA. 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: And if you remember from yesterday, police had said that 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: this happened sometime between the last stop and that Universal 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: City station. 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: And he attacked her. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: She was bleeding, as you said, so profusely that other 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: people at the platform. She got off the train, so 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: did he. And you can only imagine the struggle, this 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: struggle this poor woman was going through getting off this 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: train and people it's so gory. People don't even want 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: to come close and help her out. And now, yes, 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: we are learning that Elliott Nawden does have a criminal pass, 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: specifically with the rail system. In twenty nineteen, he was 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: charged with attacking a passenger in La He spent five 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: days in jail, but he was ordered to stay away 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: from trains for three years. 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: That was part of his probation. And if he didn't, well, 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: who's even. 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: Gonna be there to know whether or not he got 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: on one of these these trains or not. 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: One of the ambassadors is gonna stop it, you know. 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: A few weeks after that, he was charged with assault 56 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: with a deadly weapon in battery. He was sentenced to 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: four years in prison. He paroled to state hospital in 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: March at twenty twenty two. He was released on parole 59 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: supervision in August at twenty twenty two and discharge in 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: March of last year. This is some great reporting done 61 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: by the La Times at NBC, just really digging up 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: this guy's this guy's pass I was calling my sources 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: this morning, really trying to get a picture of what 64 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: this guy had done. Now, he was arrested most recently 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: for trespassing earlier this year, so he does have a 66 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: mark on his name. Just back to January. Nothing too 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: serious there, but you know, with this past, you might 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: think they might throw him back in jail. 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you say he was in a hospital state hospital? 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in a state hospital in March of 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and related to the least in twenty 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: twenty three. 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Related to the crime that he was convicted of. 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this stems from that assault with a deadly 75 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: weapon and battery. So he was sentenced to four years 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: in prison. But he was the role to the state hospital. 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: For that was that was interesting. It's like, why did 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: they send me to the state hospital. Obviously they thought 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: he was he was out of his mind, so why 80 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: did they re release him in twenty twenty three? 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: Like always, hear a lot about capacity, and you have 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: to wonder if this is a capacity issue with the 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: state hospitals. I mean, that was the first question that 84 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: I had. This is something that we've heard law enforcement 85 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: officials talk about, is that we need to up that 86 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: capacity at these state hospitals because we have people like this. 87 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: They get released back out. 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: Onto the streets. This guy's homeless, here he is he 89 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: ends up on a train here in LA and this 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: poor woman is murdered just trying to come home from work. 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: He's forty five years old, and he's homeless, and he's 92 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: been in a state hospital, and he's been convicted of 93 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: violent crimes and he's out in the middle of the 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: night on one of the metro trains. I mean, that 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: just shouldn't happen. This is a guy who deserved to 96 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: be locked up for a long time. And I'm dying 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: to know, like all the details of what happened after 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: we got sentenced five years ago, and why they transferred 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: him to the hospital, and why they led him out, 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: and what they thought his condition was at the age 101 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: of forty five, because obviously that has something to do 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: with this vicious attack. That kind of attack is insanity. 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: That's not a normal mugging. 104 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you, John, It's really frustrating, just from 105 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: a reporter's standpoint of how hard it is to really 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: get the information on people who are accused of these 107 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: heinous crimes. 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: Do they No, they do not know. 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: It's very hard to get answers on this stuff. It's 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: very hard to get straight answers on this And you know, 111 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: unless you have a relationship with somebody on the inside 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: giving you some of this information. 113 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: It's hard to get it. Out there. 114 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: So there's been some great reporting on this, but again 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: even with that, it's still limited in scope right as 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: to what really leaks out as to what exactly happened 117 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: and how he ended up back on this train where 118 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: now we have this woman killed. I do want to 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: point this out. I saw a stout reported John that 120 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: violent crime on transit overall is down forty one percent, 121 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: but to the same tune, homicides are up, and these 122 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: freak accidents will make people feel unsafe. Homicides on the 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: Metro system. They were none in twenty nineteen, there were 124 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: three and twenty twenty five, even twenty twenty one and 125 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and six in twenty twenty three. 126 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: Now we were. 127 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: Told that officers, so this is legitimate law enforcement officers 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: do ride the system and target their focus where there 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 3: are issues. But you know, this is a prime example. 130 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: We were told yesterday there was not an officer on 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: this train. There was security on the platform, but there 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: was not an officer on this train. And just about 133 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: everybody I spoke with yesterday said that they wanted to 134 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: see more of an actual law enforcement armed law enforcement 135 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: presence on this train. 136 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: And I wanted to play this for you. John. 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: We spoke to that high school student yesterday. Do you 138 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: remember her, Yes, I do, and she was criticizing the 139 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 3: ambassadors and she was saying she wants to see more 140 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: actual armed security. So here's some more of her remarks 141 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: from yesterday. Take a listen to this. 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: It's really sad. But I always feel very like scared 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: to ride the train in the first place. But I 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: can't really say I'm surprised. I mean, they have all 145 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: the Metro ambassadors always on their phone or you know, 146 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: just doing whatever, like talking or whatever. 147 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen a lot. 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't have expected that. 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: Though you're saying the communy made about the Metro Ambassadors, 150 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: you don't think they're helping very much for safety. 151 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: No, I've seen Metro ambassadors like talking on the phone 152 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: while like a homeless man spot on an elderly couple 153 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: and they were on the opposite side of the train 154 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: and they did nothing. They just stood over there. But 155 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they're like allowed to intervene. But 156 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: I've never seen any intervention by them. 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: It's a fake program. It's a scam program. 158 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: The ambassadors are probably scrolling or they're playing a game. 159 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and fairness Metro does not try to say that 160 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: they are an alternative to armed security, But that said, 161 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: people want to see more of that armed security. Just 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: about everybody we spoke with yesterday. 163 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: The problem is people getting stabbed to death or assaulted. 164 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 165 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what problem the ambassadors are solving, but 166 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: the real issue is the passengers getting getting attacked. I'm 167 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: just looking through the news stories about this not in character. 168 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: So he spends four years in prison for assaulting somebody 169 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: on him with a deadly weapon, and he did that 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: after probation for attacking a train passenger, and then he 171 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: gets arrested several more times after he's out of prison, 172 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: after he's out of the state hospital. In fact, in 173 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: February twenty twenty four, he got arrested for assault at 174 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: this same Redline station. 175 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: So it's the same. 176 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Guy over and over with a whole string of arrests 177 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: and assaults on trains. I don't know why this guy 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: isn't blacklisted from ever getting near a train. 179 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the question is, even if he was, 180 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: who would be there to really stop him from getting 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: on the system. 182 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I know, I mean, there's got to be There's got 183 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: to be some permanent solution for someone like this, because 184 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: now look what we have or what is everyone going 185 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: to offer the woman interface or the woman's family thoughts 186 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: and prayers. 187 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: Do you remember when we covered that story about them 188 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: playing the music at that station in MacArthur Park, Yeah, 189 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: keep the crazies out of the train station. Well, that day, 190 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: I remember really feeling bad for everybody that I saw 191 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: that had to use the system, because I truly was like, Wow, 192 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: this is how everybody here has to get to work. 193 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: This is a necessity for them to make a living. 194 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: They have to ride this system. And now we're hearing 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: that this woman was also on our way home from work, 196 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 3: and it just speaks volumes to what a lot of 197 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: people are going through here in La, just trying to 198 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: get by. 199 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: The fools who run Metro. 200 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Their idea of a law enforcement response is have ambassadors 201 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: scrolling on their phone and playing obnoxious music on the intercom. 202 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's their idea of a crime fighting strategy. 203 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: That's just terrible. 204 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I want to keep on this story 205 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: and find out who this woman is too. That's just Blake, 206 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: very good, Thank you for coming on. All right, thanks, John, Well, 207 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: we'll do we'll do more. Also, we're gonna give away 208 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars. And this homeless case before the Supreme 209 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Court has put Gavin Newsom and Tom McClintock on the 210 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: same side. 211 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: We'll explain coming up. 212 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 213 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 5: six forty. 214 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: I want to tell you you probably went through this 215 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: yesterday a couple of times, and actually we've been talking 216 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: about it for quite a while. This Supreme Court case 217 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: could really change dramatically city and town's abilities in California 218 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: to clean up homeless encampments because they claim, and I 219 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: emphasize claim that their hands are tied when it comes 220 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: to cleaning up homeless encampments unless they have enough shelter space. 221 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: That was the Supreme Court ruling is that you can't 222 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: criminalize and think people in encampments with either criminal or 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: civil penalties unless you have a place to put them, 224 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, on some other requirements. 225 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: But obviously it's a stupid decision. 226 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: No other appeals court in the nation, in any other 227 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: district had this promoted this concept, just the Ninth Circuit, 228 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: and everybody hates it. Both Democrats and Republicans and normal 229 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: people people who are not political, like most people are 230 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: not political. They just want a decent living environment. But 231 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: it has brought together Gavin Newsom along with people like 232 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Tom McClintock, the congressman in Northern California, Kevin Kylie also 233 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: from Northern California as a congressman, and he's constantly ragging 234 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: on Newsom, but they both supported actually had they had 235 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: a Friend of the Court briefs that they that they 236 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: had submitted in their names, and they used They had 237 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: the same reason too, that the Court has usurp the 238 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: policy making authority of local municipalities. You know, I admire 239 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: the justices who say, you know what, this is up 240 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: to the cities and towns to decide what to do. 241 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: It is not up to judges to set policy on 242 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: how to clean encampments, which is what a lot of 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice is indicated is their stance. It's like, 244 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: why are you coming to us, Why do we have 245 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: to decide how to do this? Well, it's because of bogus, 246 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: a bogus decision by the Ninth Circuit saying this is 247 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: a violation of the Eighth Amendment. 248 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: If there's any criminal or civil penalties. 249 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: But ultimately there has to be because if you violate 250 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: the law repeatedly, if you don't follow a police order repeatedly, 251 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: then yeah, there's got to be a penalty. I mean 252 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: without Without a penalty, there's no coercion. Without coercion, they're 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: never going to leave. Here's a quick overview from CBS 254 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: News reporter Tina Patel on how this case is going 255 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: to change in California's day to day dealing with encampment. 256 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: So listen to this. 257 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: Play cut number three here, Tina pateel EMU is under attack? 258 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: What do we do when homelessness is under attack? 259 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: What do we do? 260 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 6: Many of the people taking part in the rally today 261 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: are part of the nonprofit group LA Community Action Network. 262 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 6: They work with the local unhoused population and say, as 263 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 6: it is, people on the streets are often treated as criminals. 264 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: They're worried that could become even more of a problem 265 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: when the Supreme Court rules on the case currently before them, 266 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 6: the argument that it's a biological necessity to sleep outside. 267 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: Early this morning, people gathered outside the Federal Courthouse in 268 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 6: downtown LA to listen to the Supreme Court arguments. The 269 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 6: justices are looking into whether an anti camping ordinance that 270 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 6: the small city of Grands Pass, Oregon, tried to pass 271 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 6: is constitutional or not. Officials in Oregon and here in 272 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 6: California say they need to be able to pass and 273 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 6: enforce laws to address the growing holessness crisis, but activists 274 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 6: say people on the streets should not be punished. 275 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 7: I pray for their hearts and their minds to open 276 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 7: up to receive the vibrations from the people here down 277 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 7: on this level, because they are so far separated from 278 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: the truth and reality that I'm not I'm not sure 279 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 7: if they have the capacity to make a decision that's 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 7: gonna actually benefit the people. 281 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: Stop. 282 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Stop, stop the thing there. I wanted to get to her. 283 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Did you notice what her name was? Queen Sheba Khalifia. 284 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: This is who CBS puts as the uh as the 285 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: expert on homelessness on this Supreme Court decision. Who do 286 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: we turn to here is Queen Sheba Khalifia, who used 287 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: to be a homeless person. She used to be a vagrant. 288 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Now she's a pundit and listen to her analysis again. 289 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught that she goes. I 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: pray for their hearts and minds to open up to 291 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: receive the vibrations from the people here down on this level, 292 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: the vibrations like the homeless guy who stabbed that woman 293 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: in the throat to death on the metro line, his vibrations. 294 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: They're treated like. 295 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: Criminals because they can make crimes all day long, all 296 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: day and night, misdemeanors by the hundreds, every single one 297 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: of them, and creates just a disgusting environment. 298 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: That's why they're treated like criminals. 299 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm done with with with activists 300 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: and protesters, who I presume now are paid professionals. Their chants, 301 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: their rhymes, their stupid megaphones, they're there, there, there, their 302 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: marches there. I'm just fed up with them. Whether it's 303 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: for the hamas terras they're supporting, are homeless people who 304 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: don't want to get off the drug. 305 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's. 306 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: All all the climate change people block and trail all 307 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: of them. Sick of all of them. They represent a tiny, 308 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: tiny fringe. Their issues are mostly absurd, and some of 309 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: them are dangerous and constantly being covered and constantly and 310 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: everybody's afraid to do something. They all need to get 311 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: the firehouses. 312 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: What they need. 313 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI. 314 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: A sixty Codway is coming up after after four o'clock 315 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: and he'll have one thousand dollars to give away next 316 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: hour two. I can't get enough of reading stories about 317 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: how San Francisco's progressive politicians have destroyed the city with 318 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: their stupid policies. I mean, it's it's difficult to believe 319 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: that they were allowing it to crumble before their and 320 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: they will not change course. Some of the people are 321 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: trying to change course, and they've had recall movements and 322 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: they're trying to vote for different candidates, but the ones 323 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: who are still in power they won't budge. And now 324 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: finally it looks like the whole real estate market is crashing. Yeah, 325 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: it hit a tipping point. You're not gonna believe what 326 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you. San Francisco's housing market is 327 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: in free fall. There's something called the San Francisco four 328 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Seasons residential That sounds like a nice place, doesn't it 329 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: anything with four seasons in the name. Well, in twenty twenty, 330 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: you would have to pay nearly ten million dollars for 331 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: the Peedhouse at San Francisco four seasons residential ten million. 332 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Now it's up for sale at three point seventy five million, 333 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: sixty two sent mark down. Say, I can't sell it 334 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: for ten million or nine or eight or seven or 335 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: six or five or four. It's three point seven five million, 336 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: five bedroom home on Fourth Avenue. Less than a year 337 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: ago it sold for one point six Well, that person 338 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: couldn't last a year, and now they're dumping it at 339 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: one point one. They're taking a one third loss. A 340 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: two bedroom condo on Market Street, which sold in twenty 341 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: nineteen for one point two million, sold this month for 342 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy five thousand. 343 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 8: That is unbelievable. 344 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 9: I lived in the Bay Area many many years ago, 345 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 9: and I lived in the East Bay, but I would 346 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 9: go to San Francisco a lot, and it was so 347 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 9: unaffordable and so desirable at that time. 348 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the most expensive real estate market in 349 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: the country. 350 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 8: Frazy it was. 351 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: And now this is this is fifty to seventy five 352 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: percent off. Here's a here's a home that overlooks the 353 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: Golden gate Bridge ocean front views. It was it hasn't 354 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: sold in thirty five years. Whoever got this home has 355 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: been there for thirty five years. 356 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, with those views. 357 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: They put it up on the market for almost thirteen million. 358 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Last March they're selling it for seven point eight million. 359 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 9: John, you need to go buy that, you know, hold 360 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 9: on to it until things turn out. 361 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: You know, this is the time, this seriously, this is 362 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: the time to invest. You're never going to get sixty 363 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: percent off on a on a San Francisco penhapany because this. 364 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 8: Is not sustainable. 365 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 9: The city has got to turn around somehow, some way, someday, 366 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 9: and then people. 367 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: Are going to be Yeah. 368 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to get rid of the leadership 369 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Look what they're They're destroying so much wealth. 370 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: Now Here is the Kapper. There is a building on 371 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: Market Street, nine ninety five Market Street. Somebody spent sixty 372 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: two million dollars. I guess a company, right, Yeah, it's 373 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: a commercial building, sixty two million dollars. Last week someone 374 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: bought it at auction for six million. 375 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 8: Oh my god, are you serious? 376 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: Ninety percent discount from sixty two million to six million 377 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: in just six years. There's the Craig Ackerman is quoted. 378 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: He's a real estate guy in San Francisco. He's been 379 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: there for decades, and he said, it's it's He said, 380 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: the continued mismanagement is going to continue unless drastic changes 381 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: are made in lead leadership. 382 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: He said. 383 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: He said the current administration is into liberal grand standing 384 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: over pragmatic solutions. And he says, I do think San 385 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Francisco probably has another five to eight years of mismanagement 386 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: comping coming. Things are a mess out here and they 387 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: don't need to be. This could all be changed by 388 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: the stroke of a pen, but the mayor they chose 389 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: this ridiculousness. I don't think it's going to change. They're 390 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: happy waving their liberal flags and looking for a fantasy 391 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: land that doesn't exist. It'll kill you on the way there. 392 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: And that's what's Craig Ackerman says, and he's right, it's 393 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: all their horrific policies has brought huge amounts of crime, 394 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: huge numbers of vagrants, just a sense of lawlessness and danger. 395 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Not to mention the open air insane asylums, the open 396 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: air drug markets that. 397 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: Go on for blocks and blocks and blocks and thousands 398 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: show up. 399 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: Remember when they had in the Tenderloin district, they had 400 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: some kind of what was it a needle exchange program? 401 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: No that's bad enough. But this was free drugs they 402 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: were offering in a safe space, in a safe space, yes, 403 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: that's what it was. And they got thousands. 404 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: But they said no, no, no, we'll attract lots of 405 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: drug addicts here, but we'll counsel them and get him 406 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: into treatment. Seventeen thousand drug addicts showed up in the 407 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: Tenderloin district. I'm not making this up. Seventeen thousand. You 408 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: know how how many people they got helped for won? 409 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 9: And they shut down the program, didn't They just have 410 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 9: this big celebration about you know that very expensive toilet. 411 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: Yes, the one point seven million dollars. 412 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 8: So I'm humong his grand opening celebration. It was either 413 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 8: today or yes. 414 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: They finally had it. 415 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I just read a story a couple of 416 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: days ago. 417 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: Maybe it was because they were going to open it. 418 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: Trying to explain why this happened, almost defending it, like 419 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: you don't understand because of the way the city rules are, 420 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: and you know, the permits and the requirements and the 421 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: wages you have to pay and this and that. It's 422 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: like it has to be one point seven million. It's like, 423 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: shut up, get out of here. The toilet's one point 424 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: seven million, even the condos at sixty percent discount. 425 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: More than that. All right, we've got more coming up. 426 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 427 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 428 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: Devor mentioned the one point seven million dollar toilet which 429 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: became famous in San Francisco. 430 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: And they did. 431 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: They did have a ceremony finally debuting the toilet, except 432 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: they they scrapped that entire project. They were they were 433 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: going to do it, and there was so much worldwide 434 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: outcry over spending one point seven million on a toilet. 435 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: It's in the Noah Valley or no Valley neighborhood in 436 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco. One hundred people showed up at the town 437 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: square Noi Valley. It's calf uh and and uh, the 438 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: event organizer said, Neu Valley, let's hear it for our 439 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: not one point seven million dollar bathroom. They had a 440 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: live jazz band and he's whoever was m seeing this. 441 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: The event organizer, Leslie Crawford said, we when everybody laughs 442 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: at you, you've got to take the power back and 443 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: laugh at yourself. What they did is they did a 444 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: deal with a private company that ended up donating a 445 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: prefabricated bathroom. It's I assume it's like those trailers that 446 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: you see at public outdoor events, and they're kind of nice. 447 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: And what there was a prefabricated modular unit, and the 448 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: donation and the labor brought the costs down to seven 449 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Park officials used three 450 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars of grant money to bring it down further, 451 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: so they ended up spending a few hundred thousand total 452 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: instead of one point seven million. But that should have 453 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: been the original idea, is to get those prefabricated modular 454 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: toilet buildings. There's a why did they go for the 455 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: one point seven and then and then defend it and 456 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: come up with a whole bunch of nutty excuses, I mean. 457 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: And. 458 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: Then the whole this thing is how come it had 459 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: to become an international story where everybody is laughing and 460 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: mocking you. 461 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: Why? Why isn't it obvious like the first time? 462 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, somebody had to type up the 463 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: one point seven million dollar proposal, right, so just explain 464 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: to me, like in a private company, nobody would do that. 465 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Let's say a private company was building a toilet at 466 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: one of their locations, one of their properties. If you're 467 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: the guy who walks in to an executive's office, say I, 468 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, I got a great design here, I got 469 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: a great bed. It's gonna be one point seven million 470 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: dollars for a toilet. That's that's the last time you'll 471 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: walk into the office. You'll be tossed out on your 472 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: ass in the street. But then somebody on the other 473 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: side of the desk said, well, that's pretty good. Yeah, 474 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: let me send this down down the line, because you know, 475 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: in government, you've got to have multiple departments and multiple 476 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: executives signing off, and everybody looks like, yeah, it's reasonable, yeah, 477 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: one point seven million for toward sure. Absolutely, So it's 478 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: it's group think. Everybody in the chain of commanded, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 479 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: And the only thing that killed it was the publicity 480 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: with if there is some magical way you could avoid 481 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: all the publicity would have been built for that price, 482 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: and nobody questions it. Nobody says not, come on, could 483 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: we get it down to one point two one point 484 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: one even now? I mean, we all have toilets in 485 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: our homes. You might have three or four or five. 486 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: We don't have people do not have two million dollars 487 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: worth of Wait a second, it would be ten million 488 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: dollars worth of toilets in their homes. Yes, right, you 489 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: had like a four bedroom house and maybe five bathrooms. 490 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: All those bathrooms are ten million dollars And that's with 491 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: showers and bathtubs and sinks in the whole bit. Right, 492 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: that's just crazy. There's one more story. There's a seventy 493 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: year old uber driver named Peter McNulty. He lives in 494 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: the Annealope Valley. He comes to La on the weekends 495 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: because there's a little more writers. And he showed up 496 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: late Saturday night, about twelve forty five am Sunday actually, 497 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: and he picks up a guy on Lancersham Boulevard who 498 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: is adamant about the address he was going to and 499 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: he had to be there quickly. And when they arrived 500 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: at the corner of lebre at Hollywood at one in 501 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: the morning, McNulty told the man, hey, we've reached the stop. 502 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: And he says, no, no, I have to go to 503 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: this address. And I said, no, this is where we are, 504 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: this is the address. And they had a five minute argument, 505 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: and then he sat there and stared at his phone. 506 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: So McNulty put his car in park, shut the engine off, 507 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: left the vehicle to let the passenger out, like open 508 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: the passenger door, and said you got to get out 509 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: now it was late and I have someone else. 510 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: To pick up. 511 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: And the guy jumped out of the car and started 512 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: swinging at him, and they ended up on the ground 513 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: rolling around for about five minutes. So he got that 514 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: crap beat out of him. There's a photo of him 515 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: with his face all blighted up and bruised. When I 516 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: was a kid, I wanted to be a taxi driver. 517 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: I did, But then I grew up and realized this 518 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: is what you pick up. 519 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 10: How old a kid were you when you wanted to 520 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 10: be a cab driver? Twenty seven? Well, I got the 521 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 10: memo late. 522 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: Still a dream, actually, yeah, I think it's genetic. My 523 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: dad grew up in Poland his dream was to be 524 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: a bus driver. Really was then World War Two got 525 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: in away. But when I was a kid, I thought 526 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: it'd be the greatest thing in I've around all day. Yeah, 527 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: you meet people, Yeah, because I love driving, so I 528 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: thought i'd get I'd get to see the world through 529 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: a taxi. 530 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: Now it's dangerous. 531 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 11: No, this is what happens by the way, three D 532 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 11: house of low level dreams in your family? 533 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know immigrant family. Like a dream is 534 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: the lottery. What did you want to be like? 535 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 10: You owned the Lakers his dad it was a show 536 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 10: business legend. 537 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 11: But I think I think an occupation is a driving 538 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 11: a cab. 539 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if a dream. Did you have some? 540 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: That's a fair point. 541 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 11: Did you have a like a weird that'd be a 542 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 11: cool job. I wanted to be an inventor. Oh yeah, 543 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 11: did you invent anything? Couldn't come up with. 544 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 10: An invented ways to screw around? 545 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: Do you have any desires? I always wanted to be 546 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: a broadcaster. I really did, from very very early age. 547 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: I really did. No, I always wanted to be in radio. 548 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: That's true to me too, since I was seven. That's 549 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: a dream. Yeah, that was a dream. And then if 550 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: it didn't work out, it become a taxi drift. Okay, 551 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: I may still do that. I don't think there's anything 552 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: wrong with that. 553 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 11: I think the freedom of driving taxi or bus is great. 554 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, make your own hours work as much reality 555 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: is not as much fun as an eight year old. 556 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 11: But the problem with driving taxi or or or a 557 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 11: bus nowadays is exactly what you just said. There's too 558 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 11: many a holes out there. You're gonna die and you 559 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 11: get they get in your car. Yes, you know before 560 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 11: you would lock the doors to prevent those people from 561 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 11: getting in your car at like stop signs. 562 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a federal civil rights violation. Right if 563 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: a guy comes in and you think, no, I really 564 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: don't want to take him, and you drive off. 565 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get to You're gonna Yeah, your your guy. 566 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 11: LA County District Attorney George Gascon is coming. 567 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: On at four o'clock. 568 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 11: Is that right, Well, he's got a press conference at 569 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 11: f and you know he's under a lot of pressure 570 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 11: to throw the book at this guy that shop cop. Yes, 571 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 11: we're gonna look at the multiple death sentences on this guy. 572 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: And then we also have. 573 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 11: The California loses two more property insurance companies, so we're 574 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 11: down to I don't know, like three. Nobody wants to 575 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 11: insure anything. No, Oh my god, is the price is gone? 576 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: Mark? Did your insurance go way up because you're in 577 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: the hills. Try to ensure it. 578 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 11: If you can get an eighteen year old brand new 579 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 11: driver six grand a year. All right, yeah, six thousand 580 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 11: a year, one of those I do, I do, oh yeah, 581 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 11: and I and she came very close at Santa Anida 582 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 11: to getting full coverage. Maybe next week, all right, Coran Dog, 583 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 11: come on, Come on. 584 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: Drives are live in the Camp twenty newsroom. Hey, you've 585 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can 586 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: always hear the show live on KFI AM six forty 587 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 588 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app