1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Ah beat Force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to software a Gradio Special Operations, 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: military news and straight talk with the guys and the community. 4 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Yea Software Radio on time on Target Ricky Pose in 5 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: studio with us. The funny thing that I have to 6 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: tell you, guys is so I've known Ricky for like 7 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: a few years now, just from like working out at 8 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: UFC Jim in New Eyed Park and just I've gotten 9 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: into discussions about your background and into what I do. 10 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: And for a while I've been like, I gotta just 11 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: get you on the podcast to talk about all this, 12 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: and every time You're like, no, no, no, I'm good, 13 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know how. Somehow I finally convinced you 14 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: to come here after like two years, so for the 15 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: first time on the show in studio with us, Ricky 16 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: Poe Army Level four Combative instructor, which is the highest 17 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: you can go, as you were telling me, now currently 18 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: New York City Police officer and uh yeah, man, excited 19 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: to have you here. It's it's cool to just finally 20 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: do this. Well, thank you to have me here. Actually, 21 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I think the first thing that would be cool to 22 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: get into is what drove you to join the army 23 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: in the first place? And and you know what did 24 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you want to do when when you became a member 25 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: of the army. It's it's funny because uh, you know, 26 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: looking back at you know, like shoot, like fifteen years ago. Uh, 27 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's uh, I was a complete different to me, 28 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I always believe that there's like you know, 29 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: awakening and even you know, I joined because of Not eleven, 30 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: you know. And the funny part about that is that 31 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: I was never that type of guy. I grew up 32 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: in Long Island, you know, especially being an Asian, having 33 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: an Asian culture, your parents don't want you to be 34 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: like a either a doctor, accountant, you know, a nurse 35 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: or stuff like that. So it's always like a disgrace 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: or either like join the army. But so funny, you know, 37 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: it's not funny, but you know, just to look at 38 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, how Not eleven have affected you know, everybody 39 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: around the world, you know, and especially in New York. Um, 40 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, going back to where I was, I was, 41 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: you know in college, you know, borderline metro type of 42 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: guy you know, does pedicures and stuff like that. Never 43 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, did laundry in my life before and all 44 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, and a blink of the eye, 45 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, New York City wasn't an attack, you know, 46 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: watching tower fall and just having that fear of being 47 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: being a number, being a casualty, you know, just and 48 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: then it was that awakening to me, you know. And 49 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, when I was a I was a Joe 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Joe sergeant as well, and I always preached that to 51 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: my guys. I was like, you know, everybody has an awakening. 52 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, your your goals of joining the military now 53 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: can change from you know, from basic training that that 54 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: ten weeks nine to ten weeks of basically training, you know, 55 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: and just to see what these trainings are for. And 56 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: so my awakening was that I wasn't able to fight. 57 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: If so I was, you know, I'll be another person, 58 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, dead, you know. So it's like to me, 59 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what if there's an invasion and 60 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff, And every time I go back to 61 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, the World Trade Center, UM, I used to 62 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: have that fear of just remembering that that moment that 63 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I could, I was incapable of fighting, you know. So 64 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: it's that's the that's my moment, so um. So then yeah, 65 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: I then signed up by you know, to be well, 66 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: my my buddy actually Ryan, he's an army ranger. They 67 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: call him the Lawyer. Um, he wanted to be an 68 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: airborne ranger. I said, hey, I want to progress in 69 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: something that's you know, more into law enforcement, and I 70 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: joined the military police. Um. Then I got shipped out. 71 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: They forced me to eat really fast. I was I wasn't, uh, 72 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, able to and I was starting for a 73 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: past you know, you know, first like three three or 74 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: four days and Joe's Harness was screaming at you at 75 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: like mashed potatoes over my uniform. You know. I was 76 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: like this, and I'm like, you know, I still got 77 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: a taste of it. It was fine, It was fine. 78 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: And then um, and almost quit basic training because they 79 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: have something called nick at night. Are you familiaries, I 80 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't know. So it's a night infiltration course, so that's 81 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: what it stands for, and where they shoot over your 82 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: head machine guns and stuff over your head. They usually 83 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: shoot like six six ft over over even on when 84 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you're standing, they're basically twelve ft they're shooting over and 85 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: you have like the you know, bar wires, and you know, 86 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: simulated explosions, and so that was like the first time 87 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: I was exposed to, like, you know, just you know, 88 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: being on the other side where there's boats flying around 89 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: and you know, explosion, you kind of like shook up. 90 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: You're you know, remember I'm just from New York City, 91 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, never been exposed to anything like that, and 92 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: you know, it just froze up a little bit. And 93 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: then uh my buddy, my battle but he you know, 94 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: he he shook me up, and he's like, hey, Paul, listen, look, 95 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: come on, we could do this together. You know, we're all, 96 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: we're all we're almost there. Let's go. Let's go. And 97 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: then just slowly crawled called crawling, and then we finished. 98 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: But that was one of my moments that I I 99 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: froze a little bit and then I made it, you know, 100 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: and then ever since then it was just fun. From there. 101 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: It's just you know, slowly progressed, solely learning from mistakes. 102 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: And I always always learned from I always say that 103 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: you learned from leaders, good leaders or bad leaders, you 104 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: learned from both of them. And ever since then I 105 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: became you know, progressed in the in the ranks as 106 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: the n cl A sergeant and then you know, deployed 107 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: and then uh and I don't know, I just want 108 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: to summ everything up'll get and we'll get into every Yeah. 109 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: So deployed, went to Iraq. Worked, uh worked with the 110 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: pt t U p PT Police about PTT Police transition 111 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: teams with Iraqi, like the pit teams. Yeah, the pit teams. 112 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Uh so the military police. We we were working with 113 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: the Iraqi police and a little bit with the Iraqi 114 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Army as well. And then UH did a lot of 115 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: recruitments with um sons of Iraq. That's how wise. They 116 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: all had like a k s or flip flops on. 117 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: It was. It was, it was. It was definitely fun 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: to watch. And then uh, I did some human human 119 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: intelligence gathering and UH came back and then pursued in 120 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, being a drill sergeant. And then you know, 121 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: they found that out some martial art background, and they 122 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: wanted me to go into what we call it m 123 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: A c P, which is the Army Army Modern Army 124 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: Combatis program. UM that and a little bit of Special 125 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Operation Combatis Program which is sock P as well. And 126 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, my star major violent told me to compete 127 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: in this. Uh all Army Combatives thing, and uh, you know, 128 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: having a little bit of jiu jitsu background and m 129 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: m a background, I kinda you know dominated my weight class. 130 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: And ever since then, you know, they wanted me to 131 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: do the Combatish program. Ran the Combatish program, and then 132 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, became Level four. Worked at the Level four guys, 133 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: did some doctrine with them at Fort Benning fight House 134 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: and sorry, fight school because they think fight houses, uh 135 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: it's not a good word, you know, they think it's 136 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: a little bunch of you know, scuffy dudes, you know, 137 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: all dirty and sweaty, you know, in the backyard wrestling type, 138 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, like a Fort Benning Fight School for Excellence 139 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: had had you know, tone it down a bit. But 140 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: I worked with you know, great people. Um we even 141 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: worked with a couple of guys from my Captain career 142 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: course from other countries. I didn't realize I was like 143 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,239 Speaker 1: choking out a Thai prints you know, it's four bodyguards. 144 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Was pretty piste off. And uh yeah, and then you know, 145 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: ever since then after afterwards, got out and um joined 146 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: the police force. Big transition B transition um, you know, 147 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: defending and which is relatively new for you, right, I 148 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: mean because When I first met you, you were an 149 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: officer um um January will make three years at the 150 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: New York City Police Department. Uh. It's a great, great department, 151 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, a lot of diversity and a lot 152 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: of obviously changes in and for me to you know, 153 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: adapt to hum not a military to a somewhat paramilitary uh, 154 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: you know, organization, but everything else is you know, pretty 155 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: much similar. You know the rank and the chain of 156 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: commands and you know the responsibilities. So yeah, that's pretty much. 157 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: So what was your How did you get involved in 158 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: martial arts then, because it sounds like that kind of 159 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: bled into your military career. Yeah, it's so it's funny 160 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: how you mentioned, like I said, it's um, I do 161 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: have a um martial art background. It was actually more 162 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: we tie and um in taekwondo and um it's funny, 163 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I did karate for a little bit. 164 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: But you know, being so traditional Chinese, you know, my 165 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: family was like, oh, you're learning Japanese art. You're not 166 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: allowed to do that. You know, Japanese are are bad, 167 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, whoa, whoa, I'm American, listen, 168 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, like I don't know anything about what you know, 169 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: you guys gone through, but you know there's a bitterness 170 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: about the war. Yeah, so they were like, yeah, they 171 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: used to chop off heads and stuff like that and kidnapping, 172 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, even in Malaysia apparently. 173 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: So I was like, whoa, you know, being young, I 174 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: didn't know, so we didn't. I was like, okay, I'll 175 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: avoid avoid Japanese you know, martial arts and stuff like that, 176 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: and did taekwondo, you know, and a little bit of taekwondo, 177 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of hope kito um and kind of 178 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: like the discipline aspect of it, you know, learning how 179 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: to kick, learning how to like you know, I love 180 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: the kicking part, and then transitioned from that to like 181 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: mu tai. My cousin studying mutai, so you know, I 182 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: used to do a lot of pad works uh teaching 183 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: me how to kick. So it's a little different from 184 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: if you know, more shtarts. Taekwondo is a little more 185 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: stiffer in in and it's kick versus uh uh, where 186 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: mu tai is a little more Usually some people think 187 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: it's the opposite, but if you look at taekwondo, their 188 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: their kicks are a little more stiffer when it comes 189 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: to you know, throwing it first in muay Thai they 190 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: throw through it. It's it's I don't know how almost 191 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I guess no more snappier when it comes to taekwondo 192 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: where in in muay Thai and even but also We're 193 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: which is a Cambodian style. Um, just different names seem 194 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: very very similar. Uh, they kicked through and then they 195 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: push off, so it's, um, it's it's it's not a snappy, 196 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: stiff type of you know, short. And then from there 197 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of introduced to like wrestling, American wrestling. Grappling was 198 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: like a whole new new thing to me, and I 199 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: just fell in love, like high school wrestling kind of 200 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: Is that what you mean when you say that? No, 201 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: when I'm wrestling with soldiers, you know in the combatis 202 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: oh I got so it's you know obviously, Um, I 203 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: then realized it because you know, being in New York 204 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: or you're just like everything is just New York. If not, 205 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: you're not American, you know that type of you know mentality, 206 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know, got introduced to like grits and 207 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell is that? You know? But 208 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: like you know It's funny because like I still remember 209 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: that and ever since then, I'm like, man, I missed 210 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: grits or gravy. Yeah that and um, you know yeah 211 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: the biscuits with the beef gravy, the de fact type 212 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: of food. Yeah, over the eggs now and you know, 213 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: being a little more creative, you know, going outside my 214 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: comfort zone. And uh and Jumble. I never had Jumble. 215 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: I until I had an m R. E. I was like, 216 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: what the hell is this. The other thing about that 217 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: mystified me was was smoke, was tobacco. People dipping, dipping, dipping? 218 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: Anybody dipping. I grew up in New York. I never 219 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: nobody dips. Yeah, nobody. Yeah, I was like, what is dipping? Well, 220 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: I saw some when I was watching baseball, you know, 221 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: I was younger, was chewing, you know, and then everybody 222 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: started dipping. I'm like I tried it and got a 223 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: headache from it, and they were all laughing like that. 224 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: But excuse we can't say, but yeah, you know they 225 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: all after like, hey, Sorge, Uh you know you tried 226 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: dip before, and like I remember that we're out at 227 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the range and uh, and we did, like they're like 228 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: long cuts or something. Like that. Yeah, Copenhagen. Oh yeah, 229 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like, dude, it was, it was. It was 230 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: for me. It was when I was a private and 231 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: range of Battalion and they found out I'd never dipped before. 232 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what the hell it was really 233 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: By now I knew because I was a signed in 234 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: my unit and I've seen other guys doing it. But uh, 235 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: they found out I had never dipped before, and they're like, oh, Murphy, 236 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: this is some entertainment here. And they gave me Copenhagen snuff, 237 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: which is like the strongest uh you know, type of 238 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: tobacco there is for that and uh, oh my god, 239 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: it almost killed me. Wow. Yeah, it's funny because I 240 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: met someone the bad boys I never got introduced to, 241 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: like you know, the the range of guys until um 242 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: w LC like Warrior Leaders course, and then there's a 243 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: bunch of bad boys I roomed with. And uh, I'll 244 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: tell you what My roommate was, Haslet. I knew I 245 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: know the name because he's crazy, short, white kidding from 246 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: I forgot where somewhere down south. You know. He was 247 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: wild and I went to school with Patton. He got 248 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: killed in uh chopper crash, a couple of years ago, 249 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: not a couple of years ago, but high in two 250 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven twelve. Yeah, he did like six deployments 251 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: and short kid and he said, Hey, Poe, if you 252 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: ever pulled me over on Fort Benning, I'm gonna going 253 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm going down with a fight. Seriously. I was like, 254 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull you over. I was like, I 255 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: don't even work law enforcement. I'm like one of the 256 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: combat MPs, you know. But yeah, he you know, he's 257 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: a good guy. Raymond Gonzalez A couple of guys, and 258 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: then I worked with some of them shooting instructors. So 259 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: first got Saint Clair name, rings, the bell were all 260 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: about the same age relatively, So yeah, I mean I 261 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,359 Speaker 1: would think it's your era. Yeah, yeah, I mean Haslitt 262 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: was he was? I mean, I want to say he 263 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: was a private in my company when I left. Yeah, 264 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: what your was this is that you went through the 265 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Warrior Leader. Wow. I think it was two thousand and 266 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: two thousands seven. Yeah, it has to be the same guy. 267 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: It makes sense. I left Range of Betime in two 268 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: thousand and six to go to SF. So yeah, I 269 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: met I met a couple of guys. Uh, great, guys 270 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: just the names has been. One of them was Brazilian 271 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: guy he got killed apparently. Um he's he's actually in rass. 272 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: He was a rasting shop there, black belt in jiu jitsu, 273 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: very well known and he I wasn't there, but a 274 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: lot of people mentioned his name. Um, this is when 275 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu was like fairly new to um, to America, 276 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, to the whole UFC thing, and he was 277 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: very well respected guy. He was part of like the 278 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: get Gracie Baba, you know, Baja organization, and he had 279 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: a dream of you know, running um running his own 280 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: school and stuff like that. And then one of my 281 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: friends took over and then they started his own gracy 282 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: bab over there in memories of him, but I know 283 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: he's a rass and shocked there and um, yeah, I 284 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: worked with another Sergeant first class mag Magley Magley Tody 285 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: or something like that. Another guy he's he worked with 286 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: Saint Clair first Claire. Um, I went through the STM course, uh, 287 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, he was giving some quality instructions. 288 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: Pretty cool, Pretty cool. So how did you rise so 289 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: far in the rank as a combatives instructor to go 290 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: to as you were saying level four the highest that 291 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: you can go. I know that you've worked with guys 292 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: like Matt Larson, but we've had on before. I mean, 293 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: it's it's funny because like like I said, I was 294 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: doing the whole juil sargein thing as well, and then um, 295 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: just competing in the combative, the all army combatives, just 296 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: you know, growing from there and you know, doing jiu 297 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: jitsu and uh, like I know the way that you 298 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: put it to me, you said, like being in the army, 299 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: you found your purpose, like you found what you're great at. 300 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: I remember you telling, yes, you know, like you you're 301 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: always you're always contemplating about like you know, some people 302 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: like to kick in doors and you know, uh, and 303 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, do other stuff, you know, progress in the ranks. Uh, 304 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: to treat you know, treat strategic levels. And some people 305 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: like to you know, teach. And I never in my 306 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: life thought I was, you know, good at teaching. And 307 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm the best teacher. But you know, 308 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: being a drill sergeant was one of the things that 309 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: I realized that sometimes producing quality soldiers, not screaming and yelling, 310 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: which there is intent for it, but you know, I 311 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: never lost my mind. My my vision of being a 312 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: n c L and not commissioned officer uh is to 313 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: take care of soldiers and mentor them. So I thought 314 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: in my mind that, hey, why don't I just back 315 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: off from the screaming yelling. It was definitely not my 316 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: type of style. And I had great starr majors that 317 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: mentored me, you know, when I was younger and said, hey, 318 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can't be a person. You know that 319 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: you're not. People will see right through you, you know, 320 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: and if you be who you really truly are, you 321 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: can improve them that, you know. And so yeah, obviously 322 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: on you know, the shark attacks and stuff like that. 323 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, you're a knife the knife hands and stuff 324 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: like that. You're you're going at it. And I actually 325 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: had fun with a couple of times. I went total 326 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: Chinese accent, you know, and my first are cracked up. 327 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: He was, I'm like, private, what the fuck are you doing? 328 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: I tell you what, one more time you open your mouth, 329 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: I stuck at egg roll in your mouth. I won't 330 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: deep through that ship, you know. Oh my god, that 331 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: was so funny. The privates were like, yes, Joe, and uh, 332 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you know it's at Fort Benning, so you know, you 333 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: could say whatever you want. And yeah, my first Tarnt 334 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: heard it and at first he was like who, who 335 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: the hell is that? And then he was like Joe, sorry, 336 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: get over here and we went back to the back. 337 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: I was like yes for sorry and like you know, 338 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: lost the whole accident and everything. He's like, what was that. 339 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: I was like, you didn't tell me pre planning, like 340 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: you know that you would go like full you know, 341 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: fresh off the boat at privates and I was like, hey, 342 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: I was just trying trying to have fun, you know, 343 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: like you know, and uh yeah. It was pretty funny 344 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: because like you know, at the at the end every 345 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: cycle you have Privates you know talking about you know, 346 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: just like when they're about to graduate, they're like, hey, 347 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: you know Joe Sarry, you know, they always like remember 348 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: that time. It was a funny moment. I remember that time, 349 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: and I was like Josane, I forgot. There was like 350 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: another Asian guy that was screaming at it and he 351 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: was saying like kungu kung fu, kick me all the 352 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: way to the fucking field over there. I never saw 353 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: him again. I was like, private that was me. He 354 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: was you didn't have that accent. I was like, well, 355 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what to say when I 356 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: when I when I go overboard by actually kicks it. 357 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: It's a great story and a feeling. That's going to 358 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: be the clip we put on Instagram, just him doing 359 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: his train. It's pretty funny. I told him I was 360 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: going to stick an egg roll in his bath room 361 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: with deep through. It was like you invented a character 362 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: to be when you were yelling at Yeah, it was. 363 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: It was fun. It was fun. So I told him 364 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: I was going to freaking bicycle kick you, like kung 365 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: kick you and stuff like that. It was pretty funny. Yeah. So, 366 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: and then I used to do a thing like you know, 367 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: being in a combatisan shot there would It was very 368 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: risky though, but I would like lay out the mass. 369 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: I tell privates like, you know, this is like Starship Troopers. 370 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: What makes you think you're good enough? So if you 371 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: challenge your instructor, Yeah, so that's what I do. It's 372 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: very risky because like sometimes I pick one of the 373 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: biggest dudes and all he did was eat cornbreadfoont of 374 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: living and like, you know, he's like two pounds. Oh 375 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: my private listen, I'm gonna fight you and then I've 376 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: done like choking about and stuff like that. I was like, alright, guys, listen, 377 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: it's not about the size, all right, it's all about technique. 378 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: I need a break, like everybody get a water break, 379 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: like never again. I'm like, damn, my wife will be 380 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: like I think, yeah, like spinal injury. That's the way 381 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I should mention. Because you mentioned your wife, you're kind 382 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: of a rarity as a guy who met your wife 383 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: really young in the army, still happily married. Yeah, Chinese 384 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: half white kids. Yeah, you know, a little hybrids running around. 385 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I told him, you know, 386 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: his white America and I'm kidding, you know you didn't. 387 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: You can blend in. So if you're not claiming Asian, 388 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: just claim you're white. But I feel like that's it 389 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: really is a rarity. I mean, so many guys on 390 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: the podcast, it's like an abundance of guys who have 391 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: and divorced or you know. You mean you met your 392 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: wife when you pretty much joined the army. Yes, Um, 393 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: we met in Korea. I was actually yeah, I was 394 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: in Korea station Korea, and um, you know, you know 395 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: they always this is like not politically correct radio station 396 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: right were there. But has anything we've done been politically right? 397 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the back in back in the 398 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: day in the army, they say, you know, when female 399 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: joins the army, they're either you know, a lesbian or 400 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: you know they they they're you know, they're bush, you know, 401 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: like they're they're you know, there's only a few selective 402 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: that are I don't want to say the other word, 403 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: but you know they're you know, you know, lesbian or 404 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: the like sweat or yeah, you know you said it. 405 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: You know there's only a few. So you know, I well, 406 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: my first thing and I met She's gonna kill me 407 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: when she hears this the beauty of but you know, 408 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: like you know, you're in Korea, there's not much selective 409 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: few females and on base and stuff like that. And 410 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: then she's always hanging around and I didn't know what 411 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: she's you know, up to, and I was like, damn, 412 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, she's either off the market, 413 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, she had a boyfriend or a husband or 414 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: back home, or she's you know, a lesbian or you 415 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: know she sleeps around one of one or three it 416 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: out of gamble. And then um, I didn't know she 417 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: was interested, but you know, I used my charm and 418 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: I wheeled her and I thought she was I thought 419 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: she was not into my gender, you know, that type 420 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: of gender. So I was like, okay, she's always around females, 421 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and I was like okay. Um. But there was a 422 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: club called Bentley's and and Young Song like the Dragon 423 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: Hill Lodge, which is really nice place. But talk about Korea, 424 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: they have a curfew. So once you're done with the 425 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: Cinderella curfew, which is like midnight on weekdays and then 426 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: one one am and on weekends, you come back to put, 427 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: you come back to post. If you get caught outside 428 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: the post, you get an article fifteen in your You're 429 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: you're done. It's automatic. And so we always go back 430 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: to Bentley's a party a little more. And yeah, I 431 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: met her there. She's she's a military police as well. 432 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: And then when she PCs two forbidding with me, she 433 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: was mp I. She went to um Special Reaction Team School, 434 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: which is like more of like the military SWAT version, 435 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: did really well on that, and then uh, she's now 436 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: in the hiring process of you know, being a police 437 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: officer as well. She's into fitness and everything, but you 438 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: guys have even competed. But yes, what physique physic competitor 439 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: and what does she even figure bikini? And she's trying 440 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: to go figure so she's trying to bulk up a 441 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: little more. Um, but we used to cross it. Oh, 442 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I was across it. I was across the coach out 443 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: for betting. Um. You know, I worked with great guys. 444 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Great first Sergeant, You've done kind of everything in the 445 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: fitness realm. I really do feel like you've done. That's 446 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: what actually think you've done. Martial arts has done uh 447 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: cross fit, which which is kind of cool that you've 448 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: experienced all that. Yeah, because uh, you know, like I said, 449 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: being a being a Joe sergeant and then being exposed 450 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: to like, you know, these ranger guys. You know, that's 451 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: big as heads. You know, I'm not kidding, but you know, 452 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: like it's funny because like, you know, that's the only 453 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: time like that I felt like I control you. You know, 454 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: like when I was a CrossFit coach. You know, when 455 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: I first started, I started across the Sacrifice out of 456 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, in Columbus, Georgia, and then I went to 457 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: uh CrossFit inception. I worked with a former marine lex 458 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: Uh he was, you know, my partner in crime and 459 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: CrossFit inception and the range of guys who come in 460 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: there thinking, you know, I'm hot ship, you know, and 461 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: then go in there and do Murph and all that stuff, 462 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean they're great, you know, different 463 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: type of you know, fine specimens, you know, but uh, 464 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the mentality is great, but you know we could still 465 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: break them, you know, just pushing each other on doing 466 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: these wads work out of the day and um, but yeah, 467 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: the fitness part, it's it's always been my thing. Um, 468 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: I always find the time to work out because I 469 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: feel like, no matter you're in the jiu jitsu portion 470 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: where everybody say it's a lazy main sport, you know, 471 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: as as as unfit as you can and you're just 472 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: trying to use technique, the person you know that's you know, 473 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: just as fit and just as aggressive and just has 474 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: to fight in them can still beat you, you know 475 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. So I always think 476 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: fitness is a very important. Um. Taking care of yourself 477 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: is very important. And you realize that as you know, 478 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: you progress in the military, that yeah, you've got to 479 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: take care of yourself because you don't know how much 480 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: your body can take at the end of the day, 481 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, your knees, your back, and we all have 482 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: the same injuries for for for a reason, and it's 483 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: very commons because we try to tough it out, tough 484 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: it out, tough it out, and then you know, you 485 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: realize you could snap one day and then you can't 486 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: do that no more. And then is it really worth 487 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: it to, you know, just tough it all out, or 488 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: is it really worth it to you know, invest in 489 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: some knowledge and your fitness, taking care of yourself and 490 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: then you know, uh self self care, stretch, you know, 491 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: eat healthy and then perform at your highest level and 492 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: not gamble and you know, the dice on when you 493 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: can't take it no more and just have that pain. 494 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: You know that's like a back pain, and you know 495 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: when when would you agree with that? Yeah? I mean, 496 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: I think the military has a tendency to kind of 497 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: use guys up, use and abuse them in that sense. Um, 498 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: and especially if you're a special operations soldier or infantrymen 499 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: or in any of these sorts of high high impact 500 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: physical jobs. Um. I think you know, the military itself 501 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: should but failing that, the individual should learn about taking 502 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: care of themselves. And taking care of their body and 503 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: injuries and things like that so that they can if 504 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: they choose to do their twenty years in the military, um, 505 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: if they want to remain in that job and go 506 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: all the way through it and then hopefully still not 507 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: be dead and crippled when they get out and and 508 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: be able to play with their kids exactly. Yeah, So 509 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we need to get better at that. Yeah, 510 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, um, and that's just and not even the military, 511 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: even like I said, you know where my current job is. 512 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: You know, we we have to have that, you know, 513 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: that mentality that of you know, taking care of yourself. 514 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, no doctor has the magic wand to fix 515 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: you where it's a good it's been a fifteen fifteen 516 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: year you know, um of habit that you didn't break. 517 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, there's no magic wand to that. You know. 518 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: It's it's that lital investment, that one hour investment at 519 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: the gym, the two hour investment at the gym, or 520 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: even just stretching phone rolling, which phone rolling is not 521 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, not the a quick fix, but you know 522 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: something to like to even get looked at, you know, 523 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: like I always have that, you know, tough it out 524 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: mentality and until I saw like a pt and uh, 525 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: a sport you know, a sport therapist, and he was like, 526 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, you've been posture your posture, You're you've been 527 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: standing wrong for the past you know, three or four years, 528 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: so you have an anterior pelvict tilt. And I was like, 529 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: what is that? You know, it's like you're you're tilting 530 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: of your hips and stuff like that. I was like, 531 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, when you realize that, you know, 532 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: when you stand on a foot post or something like that, 533 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, make sure you stand up right and squeeze 534 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: your butt, squeeze my But now I realized I was like, oh, shoot, 535 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: you know I wasn't I'm being lazy. And then like 536 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: that belt really is killing me. And then really, you know, slowly, slowly, 537 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: your your body starts getting tightened up, and that's when 538 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: you built that interior Pelvicto. And then just to have 539 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: that knowledge of what's causing your body to have this 540 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: pain is already a fix, you know, And that's why 541 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm so into fitting. Still, I'm still learning, I'm still 542 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: reading him still. You know what you know, getting advice 543 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: from you know, professional bodybuilders and even some coaches. H 544 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: You've even worked with some guys right who were in 545 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: like the Olympia physique. Yeah, you know, I'm in that 546 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: community as well. Uh no, No, a bunch of people 547 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: over there, and uh yeah, it's just just that that 548 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: body belt of building realm is is is a whole 549 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: different monsters. It's good advice for the military, but especially 550 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: good advice for NYPD based on some of the guys 551 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: I saw coming in here today, like man, you yeah, 552 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: I care of yourself buddy. Yeah, I mean, you know, 553 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, we had a couple of articles about 554 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: that is even on the news. Are you mentioning because 555 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: are you thinking examine? You commented on that guy who 556 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: was suing the NYPD for getting that. Yeah, I mean, like, 557 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a shame, um, but you know, 558 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: and him claiming that, you know, he's a marine stuff 559 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: like that, you know, in all honesty, as like as 560 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: an n c O and you know, living that type 561 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: of you know, leadership mentality. It's like, hey, you know, 562 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I was always taught don't find excuses, find a solution, 563 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, and I always trying to mentor my soldiers 564 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: as well, you know, come to me with a solution, 565 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: don't give me an excuse. And when when you have that, 566 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: you're you tend to think differently and have a different 567 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: approach on on on your problems. So you know that 568 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: seems more like an excuse to me. Then you know 569 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: you're telling me that you don't have time to jump 570 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: on a treadmill or StairMaster for twenty minutes. For twenty minutes, 571 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: you can burn, you know, at a high intense you 572 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: can burn you know, four or five calories on a StairMaster. 573 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Agim we go to has has a pretty heavy law 574 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: enforcement community there. There's a lot of guys and like 575 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: I said, a big dinner, like built big dudes, you know, 576 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: none of them. There are a lot of cops who 577 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: are like serious about their physical fitness. And yeah, thinking 578 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: of Armando, he's amazing. He's a beast. I don't even 579 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: know his name, but the I know he's a he's 580 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: a cop to Latino dude who goes towards him, who's 581 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: like tatted up, and it's like massive, you know who 582 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I think it's always there, but yeah, 583 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: in the warning so I've seen him like at night now, 584 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: But Armando still those marathons and marathons with running with 585 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: the Flag. He trains for like five hours, you know. 586 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: So you know, that's the way you invest in. And 587 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: sometimes just like you know, in the military, you know, 588 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: when you're a private, you know, when you're brand new 589 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: in the in the military, what do you do. You 590 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: go out? You know, you you drink and like I 591 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: said before, you know, to my privates, you're young, dumb 592 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: and full of come type of mentality and just just 593 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: like you know, you're you're investing in in different you know, 594 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: in your your your focus, your priorities different, you know, 595 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: and and and don't get me wrong, you know people 596 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: um at that age. Yeah, you know, your party and 597 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: you're living your life you know, at a fast pace. 598 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: And then weekends and then you're broke. You know, you're 599 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: remember what I had one soldier that was giving like 600 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, donating sperm and doma, donating plasma you know, 601 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: each month, just to you know, to live a good life. Yeah, 602 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: so it was it was pretty funny. But like you know, 603 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: I was like, what you're donting all that? Yeah, when 604 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: when it's like it's the day after pay day and 605 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: you're looking at your privates it's like Friday or whatever, 606 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, you guys want to go out 607 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: have a beer tonight And they're like, I can't stargean, 608 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm broke. How are you broke? We got paid yesterday. Yeah, 609 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: because they're doing stupid ship and they're blowing it off, 610 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: you know. And then you know you and then you 611 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: get privates as well, you know, gonna go and deploy, 612 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: and then they go and buy like a like a 613 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: fifty car, and then they realized that the flow of 614 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: income is not constantly coming like that, or they get like, 615 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, and this is the worst too. And leaders 616 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: have to even now, I think, has to be concerned 617 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: about their soldiers, you know, financing cars. Like I used 618 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: to look at their my soldiers and say, hey, let 619 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: me take a look at what you're gonna buy, because 620 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: they might slap you with like a twenty four percent 621 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: interests in your car payment in your car. You're buying 622 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: a Honda Civic and you're you have like a nine 623 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: monthly payment, you know, and they're screwing you in the 624 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: payday loans and all that ship it's up and you think, 625 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, the army is really screwing you up. You know, 626 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: without without loop. The guys you know around there are 627 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: just you know, just as bad. So you've got to 628 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: be smart about that. And especially, like I said, future leaders, 629 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: even like future soldiers, UM shouldn't be concerned about, you know, 630 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: taking advice. You might sound like a good deal in 631 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: those salesmen, because I was one of the guys I 632 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: was saying, you know, wow wow, and then like I 633 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: had to re finance, you know, and I was I 634 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: didn't know. It was my first time buying a car, 635 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have no advice, and yeah, so 636 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: it gets stuck with that, you know. So yeah, it's 637 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: just just like I said, you know, priorities and where 638 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: you're focus at, and I think for personally, like you know, fitness, 639 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: why is going back on on the topic. Was you 640 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: know one of my I didn't want to spend money 641 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: on on beer and alcohol and stuff like that, you know, 642 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: and I just wanna work out at the gym, you know, 643 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: That's where I tend to uh. And then I was 644 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: studying for the board. I wanted to be a sergeant, 645 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: even though some people were like, hey, you know, you're 646 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: too young. You know, there's no such thing as being 647 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: too young. So for all those people who was listening 648 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: and still active. Uh, there's no such thing as being 649 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: like too young too, because they're they're not focusing on 650 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna pay you, they're not gonna 651 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, promote you. They're the ones that's gonna hold 652 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: you down do what you do. You know, Like I was, 653 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: I was being discriminated by you know, oh, why are 654 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: you studying for the board? Why are you working so hard? 655 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: You know, I want to get promoted. Why why wouldn't 656 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: you you go join the military? You want to get promoted. 657 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: You want to have a goal, you know. And I 658 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: studied the f M S, the A R S and 659 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: then went to boards and stuff like that. I made 660 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: sergeant in two years, and it was it was pretty fast. 661 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's, you know, 662 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: it's what you're capable of. You know, it's at the 663 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's you know, that rank kind 664 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: of mode you too, because if you're a private, they're 665 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: not gonna give you that responsibility, So how are you 666 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna learn? But when you get promoted to a sergeant, 667 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna give you that responsibility and you're gonna learn. 668 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: You're definitely gonna learn. You know, it's like whether or 669 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: not you want it or not, you're gonna learn. You're 670 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: gonna So it's up to you. If some people want 671 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I'm fine, I don't want to 672 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: be I don't want to take care of soldiers. Are 673 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm fine with my myself. Sure, but don't tell don't 674 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: let anybody tell you that you can't be a sergeant 675 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: and that you can't you don't know better yet, or 676 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: you don't have that experience. Well, shoot, you're gonna get 677 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: the experience once you get promoted. And there are those 678 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: people you come across from the military who if they 679 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: can just hand out basketball's in the gym for four years, 680 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: they'll do it because they don't want to do anything difficult. 681 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: They get comfortable, you know, And um, I feel like 682 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: in the military, there's there, there's and just in any 683 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: any organization, you know, they get comfortable. And I don't 684 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: like to get comfortable. And that's why I said, I 685 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: like to learn a lot of things. And you know, 686 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: being an MP and now I'm being I'm in the 687 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: reserves now, but in the c A unit, so affairs unit, 688 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's a whole new ball game in silver affairs, 689 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, working with you know, Special operation guys and 690 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: and just deployed in certain areas and you know, just 691 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: to see where the government is going with you know, 692 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, the foreign affairs type of aspect of it. 693 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: That's a whole new ball game. You know, and you're 694 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: you're really not on the ground on the ground, but 695 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: you're looking at like, uh, you know, at a strategic level, 696 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: a tactical level. You know, you're like, wow, this is crazy. 697 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: When these oh six guys are talking and like they're 698 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: just saying, like, I should be in this meeting. I Like, 699 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: I have no clue what these guys are talking about. 700 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: I should be in this meeting. So uh lunch, you know, 701 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Like so it's pretty funny. I mean, I think being 702 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: a police officer really lends itself towards civil affairs. Though. Yes, um, 703 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, after all this type of training, like we 704 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: talk about you know, martch arts and like you know, 705 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, learning how to do arm bars and try 706 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: and go chokes and stuff like that, and then takedowns. 707 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: As a police officer, the most important thing is to 708 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: analyze the situation, have situational awareness, and have tact because 709 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: you can make it a really long day or you 710 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: can make it a really short day. Puts with a 711 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: little bit investment on how to talk to people and 712 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: sometimes just to talk at their level or tone it 713 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: down to control that game. If you know somebody might 714 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: come at you angry and upset, you have to de 715 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: escalate things. Got to de escalate that. And just like 716 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: we were taught to, like that verbal judo of just 717 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: able to analyze what's going on, why is he or 718 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: she so angry and upset? You know, and then you 719 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: learn you listen to to that person and then all 720 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden you just digest it and then you 721 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: spit it back out at a different tone. You know, 722 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: you might solve that problem a lot easier, but you 723 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: just have to invest in that. Where some people like 724 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: it's my way to the highway, you know you're gonna start, 725 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, escalating when it shouldn't. And you know, obviously 726 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: like you learned that and with the experience, you know, 727 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: my military experience, it feels like it's an advantage you know, uh, 728 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: to for me to to transition over where. But sometimes 729 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: it's different, you know in military where we could be 730 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: like hey, you know, utilize t t P, you know, 731 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: and you know the rules of engagement, you know. So 732 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: we're so, you know, step by step where the police 733 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: is trying to police, was trying to take away, you know, 734 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: basically get away from That shouldn't be step by step. 735 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: It should be because if there's step, that means everybody 736 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: who's taught step by step should go from the next 737 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: option is this where we should just be our own 738 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: and learn that the mythology of you know, of of 739 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: handling a situation. You know. So it's important to have 740 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: these two different options, you know, in your back pocket, 741 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: so to speak, to be able to like verbally deescalate things. 742 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: But if somebody wants to fight, you can find Yeah, 743 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: of course, that's that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, 744 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: there's a couple of times I already got hands on 745 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: even when I first started, and I got hands on 746 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: and the whole jiu jitsu and the grappling aspect of 747 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: of it did come into play where I technically don't 748 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: need four other police officers to help me. Where I 749 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: could you know, control the hips, controllers, risks, and then 750 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, subdue you know, the the aggressor 751 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: or the purp um. I remember it was one time 752 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: that was you know, I had like four or five 753 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: guys jumping on top of me. It wasn't doing any good. 754 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: I'd rather you you know, create a barrier for other 755 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: people to not come in and where I can handle 756 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: that situation, which, by way, way, my favorite move is 757 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: like a neon belly and jiu jitsu is very you know, 758 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: because then you still have you're not totally you know, 759 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: invested your whole body weight into you are, but you 760 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: still have a good you know um um visual you're 761 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: talking about like in the mount position and getting on 762 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: top of them. Yeah, just a knee on on the 763 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: on on you know, on the torso, you know, on 764 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: the hips. Mainly I like to do it on the hips, 765 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: control the hips and then uh control the risk and 766 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: then still have the ability to look around and assess 767 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: the situation or assess any threats that's coming at me. Um. 768 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite ones because some people get 769 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: so invested into like just fighting the guy or like 770 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, mounting the guy and just you know, you 771 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on around you. Um, and if 772 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: you do have many partners and uh to help you, 773 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: then that's great, but if you don't, don't get into 774 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: the habit, you know, where you're you're fighting a guy, 775 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: you have them almost detained, and now you're so focused 776 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: on them, you're not assessing if there's any more threats. 777 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: That's what That's what Jim West would say, like, the 778 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: last place I want to be is on the ground 779 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: if I don't have to. And that's that's another thing 780 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: about combatives. When I started combatives and teaching combatives, I 781 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: taught West guys. You know, they had nothing better to do, 782 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: so they had they were prepping for Range of school. 783 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: So I would teach them level one, level two, get 784 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: them into level three, and then um and they will 785 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: there will be lieutenants with level three, you know, waiting 786 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: for ranger school. So they have one week, two weeks 787 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: of level two and then a whole month, you know, 788 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: so you're talking about almost you know, a month and 789 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: a month and three weeks work for training right under 790 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 1: their belt of just certain and they're getting themselves in shape. 791 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: And so every combatis in structor has to following the doctrine, 792 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, on on what they can teach. But what 793 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: the myth the ideology of the combators is is is 794 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: very It's the same, you know in some ways. But 795 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: how you m how you um um translate that, you know, 796 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: it's different. You know, having a martial background and having 797 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: the tactic old background. Um to translate that to your 798 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: students is to understand that not you know, we're not 799 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: trying to tell you, hey, do a takedown and do 800 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: like you know, uh you know, uh uh what do 801 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: you call it? A reversal or any form of like 802 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: your back mounds and stuff like that, and just sort 803 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: a bar fight, you know, and you think you would 804 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: get your you know, you gonna kick some ass, Well 805 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your ass kicking, you know. And but 806 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, um, the method of translating that is that 807 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, you you learn those those are just tools, 808 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: you know. But would I suggest when you're in a 809 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: street fight or anything like that to get on the ground. 810 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: Not so much, because we ran a couple of scenarios 811 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: where it's like a two on one drill, three on 812 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: one drill and just have fun. You know. They were 813 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: to you know, impact reduction flower suits and they will 814 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: go at it. And you see most of the time 815 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: if you're fighting two and one, you go on the 816 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: ground with them, you're gonna end up being you know, 817 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: your your your survival rate is just dropped immediately because 818 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: you're on the ground and now somebody can jump right 819 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: on top of you or bash you overhead with a 820 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: blunt object. Yeah, you know. And what we realize that 821 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: is that, you know, two on one or three on one, 822 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: the one person actually has the advantage, uh, then those 823 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: three guys because if you circle around they so striking wise, 824 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: you have to have three principles of distance, angles and levels, 825 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: and it eliminates that. When there's three guys trying to 826 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: fight you, it eliminates their angles of attack, you know, 827 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: their distance attack because they're not coordinated, you know, and 828 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: so you can pick one off the other because their 829 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: timing is off. They can't all jump at once and 830 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: try to fight you, but you can. You can automatically 831 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 1: tell because they're going to telegraph those attacks because one 832 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: is going to come up, the other one is gonna 833 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: wait because he's he's attacking the other guys gonna watch 834 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: the other guys gonna watch. This is like in the 835 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,399 Speaker 1: movies where like the huge group of Ninja's attacks the hero. Yes, 836 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: it's almost like that. Yeah, you know, I mean, like, 837 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: so that's why the hero always wins. It's because there's 838 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: you know, they're not coordinated. No I'm kidding, but but yeah, 839 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: we we did that. And it's just staying on your feet, 840 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: staying on your feet, staying feet and the best the 841 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: best option is to run, you know, like you you know, 842 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: it's that's one of the best options is to hey, 843 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: you know what, you know, find another day. Here's just 844 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: three guys on one. But if you do, you know, 845 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: you're circling around, it's not gonna it's gonna most most 846 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: of the time, it's to your advantage. You know, they're 847 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: gonna try to overreach, trying to you know, they're trying 848 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: to attack you, uh by being off timed, and you 849 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: can pick them off one of my one if you 850 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: know how to fight. And that's interesting. Yeah, it's um 851 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty fun. Like I said, when you get 852 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, guys from you know, dard 853 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: Bat and stuff like that, and we get to you know, 854 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: play kidnap, you know, and uh so we'll play like 855 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: you know, uh king on the Hill Battle. These are 856 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: all very very dangerous games to play with a bunch 857 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: of rangers. Uh so there's even like, regardless of their 858 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: level of martial arts, is just they're all so wired 859 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 1: and fun alviusly is you know, I can't even count 860 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: the points on who's who has the mounts yet. You know. 861 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: It's just like my my seven year old when he 862 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: has wrestling, everybody seemed to like roll around and the 863 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: ball of dusts and then they're like, Okay, who just 864 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: came out as a winner? You know. So yeah, it's 865 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: like that, and they love to have fun, and you 866 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: know they make the best scenarios out of it. But yeah, hey, 867 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: you know what I was gonna ask you about, um, 868 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: especially being a New York City police officer, Like it's unfortunate. 869 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: We always talk about the polarization and politics now, but 870 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: there's definitely like a polarization in America, but especially in 871 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: New York City of these people who feel like the 872 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: police aren't working for us and these people who are 873 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: just against the police force, Like how do you deal 874 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: with that? I mean, you know, um, because they I mean, 875 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: just to be specific, like you see these cases of 876 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: police brutality and stuff like that, and some of them 877 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: of course legit, some of them not. But it's replayed 878 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: in the media all day long, seven news cycle, and 879 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: there are those people that have the idea that this 880 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: is all police officers. That I mean, just like you know, 881 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: just like the military itself. I don't speak from the 882 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: new but you know, my opinion in this case is 883 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: that you know, just like the Vietnam War and all 884 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, is you know, baby killers, you know, 885 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: in the military and stuff like that. And some people 886 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: disagree with the wars and stuff like that. But at 887 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I feel like, you know, 888 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: as long as you feel like you're doing your job 889 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: right and you're out there helping people, and most of 890 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: them don't see that, you know. You know, there's guy, 891 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: there's times that I'm over there dragging somebody who's unconscious 892 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of the street and trying to you know, 893 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: conduct CPR or get him give him an ambulance, you know, 894 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: or or splint his arm or you know, I'm have 895 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: blood over me and I'm trying to help this guy. Um, 896 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: they don't see that. They don't see that I'm or 897 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: you know, I saw a guy that's you know, like 898 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: eighty nine years old army vet. By the way, have 899 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: everybody everybody in his family has passed. And this poor 900 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: guy was on thirty seven street and I walked them 901 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: all the way up to like fifty two streets, you know, 902 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: on ninth Hapvenoy, and he enjoyed the day with me, 903 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: just having a conversation because so lonely, you know, and 904 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: then he took breaks and stuff like that. I walked him. 905 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: I walked him and walked him up. But nobody sees 906 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: that because you I say this, you see what you 907 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: want to see. But if because you choose to see it, 908 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: you don't see it. If you if you don't choose, 909 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: then you see a lot of things. But if you 910 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: see hate and anger and you always pick up on mistakes, 911 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: you can you know, pick nippick everything that's wrong with anybody, absolutely, 912 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: you know that whole, like sergeant Major. You know, inspection, 913 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: white glove, inspection during like bags. If you can pick 914 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: out what you want to look for, you've got to 915 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: get it. But if you don't, you know, you see 916 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: the goodness, the good in somebody or what they have 917 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: in them, you know, then the world will be a 918 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: lot better place, you know, But unfortunately it's not like that, 919 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: and you just gotta play, you know, pick up basketball. 920 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: It's Uh, we had this conversation about some of I 921 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: can't remember one, but recently it was with some of 922 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: my own work as a journalist since I've gotten out 923 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: of the military, and I've said that, you know, you 924 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: end up working on some really dark stories about the military, 925 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: some really negative things about the military. Um on this 926 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: podcast even it's like, what are the things we end 927 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: up talking about a lot of times it's not about 928 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 1: the all the great things are military does. It's about 929 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: when somebody does something bad they shouldn't have done, or 930 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: when there's some tragedy like a helicopter for soldiers crashes somewhere, 931 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and you end up reporting on those things. Uh, 932 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate because what that those are important things 933 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: to report on. But at the same time, what gets 934 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: lost in that? Sometimes it's all of the great things 935 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: that our soldiers do every single day. And it's the 936 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: same with the police department. When something bad goes down, 937 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: that's definitely going to be reported, and it probably should be. 938 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: But what gets lost in that is all the sacrifices 939 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: and the service and the professionalism that also exists in 940 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: the police departments around this country. Yeah, at the end 941 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: of the day we wear this uniform is to help people, 942 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, any you know, either you know, even foreign 943 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: and domestic. You know, um, you know veterans. Davis passed. 944 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: But you know they always say that's saying it is like, 945 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: you know, never forget, never forget all the good things 946 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,919 Speaker 1: that you know that make this country you know, so good, 947 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like a lot of people don't 948 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: agree with you know, you know, America being great. You know, 949 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't like to use that slogan, you know, but like, 950 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, compared to all the countries when you go 951 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: to it, you know, we have a good Yeah, And 952 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, like, you know, it's it's bad, but 953 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 1: you know there's there's plus and then there's minuses. Every 954 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: everybody's like that. You know. Uh, there's the dark side 955 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: of you know, the military, there's the good and you 956 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 1: have to be real too. Is being a copying easy? 957 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's a tough job. You know. You guys 958 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: got get put in some really difficult situations. You tell 959 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: me that I get called racists for some reason three 960 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: times a day. I'm like, why am I racist? How 961 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: am I racist? I mean just because I'm you know, 962 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: and a funny scenario. I I, you know, a guy 963 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: I got a ticket, you know, stop me, and he 964 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: wants me to explain what's his summons about? And you know, 965 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm literally walking around the car showing him why he 966 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,919 Speaker 1: got a violation for you know, for his plates, and 967 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 1: one bicyclist it's buying goes give him a fucking break. 968 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, what just because I'm interacting, you know, and 969 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: that image that van you know, the vantage point of 970 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: him seeing me interacting with another cab driver was that 971 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm screwing him over, you know, which, don't get me wrong, 972 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: I write people summons is you know, but you know, 973 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: that was the time that I actually, like you know, 974 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: took the time and like you know, got out of 975 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: the car and just like, hey, you don't me show 976 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: you exactly why you need to remove this. This is 977 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 1: illegal you know in New York. And he's like, okay, 978 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 1: thank you, you you know, I appreciate it. And I said, 979 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 1: it's just an equipment violation, so it's not that you know, 980 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: it's not going to affect your points or anything. But 981 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: one guy just rides, you know, rides across him, immediately 982 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: thinks and you're shaking them down. Yeah, you know what 983 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like that I'm harassing him or I'm you know, 984 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: I'm giving him on summons. And like I said, as 985 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: you choose to see what you want to see. Have 986 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: you worked any of the like protests, because there's been 987 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: just straight up anti police protests in New York City. Mean, 988 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: I remember watching the video from Times Square, right wasn't 989 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: it from a rooftop and they were literally chanting about 990 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: that's something like ya for dead cops and stuff like, 991 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is not fake news, Like you saw 992 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: the raw footage of right here in New York City, 993 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: and you know, like I know that there's those people 994 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: that are in Black Lives Matter who are a lot 995 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: more rational than that, but there definitely is a group 996 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: inside there or inside the anti five people that are 997 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,479 Speaker 1: just straight up we don't need police. Get rid of them. 998 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, at the end of the day, Um, 999 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, we always need good men to fight, right 1000 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: um and sing with the military. But you know, if 1001 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: you start taking that away and trying to, you know, 1002 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: get rid of all the people who was willing to 1003 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 1: fight for a good cause, you know, you're I think 1004 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: it's just at the end of the day, it's just 1005 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 1: to build that trust again. And when we spread that 1006 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,479 Speaker 1: hate and anger, we're not going to get that trust. 1007 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: We're always going to get pushed back a little bit. 1008 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: And I think those groups are trying to do what 1009 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 1: they can to to keep shing that back. And I've 1010 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: seen those protests. I've been in Rose protests and you 1011 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: just look at them like are you living under a rock? 1012 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: You know, They're like, you know, there's crimes out there. 1013 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of things that's going on out there, 1014 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: and if you hate us or don't trust us, you know, 1015 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: then it becomes both sides, you know, like you know, 1016 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: and then we feel like they're a threat too, and 1017 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: you're it's all that psychological warfare, you know. And but 1018 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: the main ingredient that we're missing is trust. And we 1019 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,879 Speaker 1: need to build that relationship back again. And like I said, 1020 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 1: I do everything I can every day on a daily 1021 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: basis is to help build you know, the community and 1022 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: help the people. And I would do the same thing, 1023 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, when I was a soldier, you know, wearing 1024 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: that uniform, you know, help those countries, like you know, 1025 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: you drive you know in Iraq, you drive by and 1026 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: you're like you know, I just had a kid, um 1027 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: two weeks before I deployed, and I'm gone for like 1028 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: a year, and I'm I'm a parent now, you know, 1029 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: and I feel like, oh, shoot, you know, ah, you know, 1030 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm a father, and you know, I look at the future, 1031 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: the kids that I never looked at before. I was 1032 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: always by myself, myself, myself. And then now I'm like, well, 1033 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 1: I got a future at the plane ahead. And then 1034 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: when you're in Iraq, You're looking at these kids. They're 1035 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: so you know, so happy when they see Americans, you know, 1036 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: giving them food, giving them drinks, giving water, giving candy. 1037 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: And these kids are missing a limb because of an 1038 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: idea attack and in the market or you know, a 1039 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: eban or or a bicycle, you know, explosion, explosion, and 1040 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: they're missing limbs from you know, from from those explosions. 1041 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: They're still you know, putting on a smile, you know 1042 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: when and just to have clean water or whatever. They 1043 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: are still smiling. You know. So in this case, you're 1044 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: you're you, you humble yourself. You're like, wow, you know, 1045 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: I go back home. My kid is healthy, you know, 1046 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: has a has a mom that can you know, a 1047 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: mother that's gonna take care of him, you know, and 1048 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 1: it's clean water, and that's the least they have to 1049 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: worry about, you know. And you look at all the 1050 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: countries the same way. You know, you're like, that's the 1051 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: least they have to worry about. If they can they 1052 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: can find this, you know, the smallest things, and they 1053 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: can put on a smile because and you're like, it's crazy. 1054 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, those those people are protesting, 1055 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: they might wanna you know, uh, they deepen look and 1056 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: go just travel, just buy a ticket and just travel, 1057 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, to another country. And then like I said, 1058 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: don't choose on what you want to look at, but 1059 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: choose on you know, just to to sit aside and 1060 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, view the world as it is and see 1061 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: how great we have it, you know. And and that's 1062 00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: that's my belief. And my dad least told me that, 1063 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, you could read it, you could read all 1064 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: the books you can in the world, but if you 1065 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: didn't walk that one thousand miles of you know, experience, 1066 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: then you're not to understand the world itself, you know. 1067 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: Said in Chinese, I'm trying to translate this you also, 1068 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to translate this in English. Show. Not a 1069 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: good goo Google translator, but but I'm trying to get 1070 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: the message across. You know, I I completely agree. And 1071 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: it's I mean, as the civilian in the room like 1072 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: gets thanks to things that you guys have done. So 1073 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: so just replace that books to media or what people 1074 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: can control and then just walk that one one thousand 1075 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: miles of experience, you know, that country and just experienced 1076 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: that life and then see and then come back and say, hey, 1077 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: you know what you guys suck. And then because I've 1078 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: seen it, you know, like you know, this country was great, 1079 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, not America, you know, and and then you 1080 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: tell me, you know how how it is because at 1081 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, eating m R 1082 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: e s for four months or five months, you know, 1083 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: and just be humbled that you actually have food and 1084 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: and you know, a clean pair of underwears to wear 1085 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: or whatever it is is pretty It humbled me down 1086 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot more than what it is. And that's why 1087 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: I always put on a smile, you know. And you 1088 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: see me at the gym, you know, I'm always I'm 1089 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: always no matter like you're in your zone there and 1090 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: you know everybody it's funny, yeah, you know, like and 1091 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to a hard time. I don't want to 1092 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: share it. But like yesterday I got the news and 1093 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, I've found out one of my soldiers was 1094 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 1: killed in a car accident. Um, it's taken to too soon. 1095 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: And just a little shout out to him. You know, 1096 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Jeremy Schultz was one of my first soldiers when I 1097 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: became my n c O. You know, uh, one of 1098 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: my first soldiers and I try to you know always. 1099 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: He helped me learn and unfortunately passed away. We deployed 1100 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: together and everything, and you know, that kid was filled 1101 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: with energy and it was, like I said, it was 1102 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: a mixed emotions yesterday and today I feel like, you know, 1103 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you humble yourself. You know, sometimes 1104 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: life can be taken away, just like you know, to 1105 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: snap a finger and you're gone. And yeah, so yeah, 1106 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: now I hear you man. I mean, it's crazy to 1107 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 1: hear that news and it happens like far too often. 1108 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: I see it on you know, my Facebook feed from 1109 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: from you know Jack, guys that we know have been 1110 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: on the show in the community, and yeah, um it 1111 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: starts to it's an eerie feeling. Sometimes, you know, so 1112 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: many people that you've either friends with teammates, acquaintances, people 1113 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: you knew in passing, and to see how many of 1114 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: them have died young. Yeah, it's like wow, man, Like 1115 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: why am I here? And all these guys who were 1116 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: like so much better than I ever was, they didn't 1117 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 1: make it, you know. Um that's another thing, you know, 1118 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: like talking about um huge problem is like you know, 1119 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: soldiers suffering, you know. And like I said before, when 1120 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like huge transition, when I exaggerate that 1121 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: was you know, getting from the military life and then 1122 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: going back to civilian life. Sometimes it's good and dandy 1123 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,479 Speaker 1: getting that DD two fourteen and be like yo, done 1124 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: with this bullshit, you know, and then all of a 1125 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: sudden it's like, wow, actually have to work, you know, 1126 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: and get a paycheck. You know. It's not the first 1127 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: in the fifteenth so more it's like you really gotta work, 1128 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: and you gotta hustle. And if you're that type of 1129 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: soldier that you know that don't realize that you have 1130 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: to hustle and you gotta go and find a job 1131 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: in and stuff. What were you doing in that you 1132 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: were training really in that? Um? Yeah, that and then 1133 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I was working in sales with the with the UFC 1134 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: as well. Great great, I had a great boss. He 1135 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: took care of me school. Um, but I was your 1136 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: dad in the reserves. Big transition, especially in the reserves 1137 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: because active duty you snap a finger and you're like, hey, 1138 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: I want this or I need to range or something 1139 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: like that, I need bullets and you know, you know, 1140 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: do some training, you get it. In the reserves, it's like, hey, 1141 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: you got two days to plan this out and you're 1142 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: like what you know? Yeah about that? You actually not 1143 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: two days, but you know the ranges next month, so 1144 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: you need to call these people in there, and it's 1145 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: a weekend, so you're like, you know what am I 1146 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,959 Speaker 1: supposed to call? Like, you know, like everybody's off today. Yeah, 1147 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: so it's like it's you know, I give props to them. 1148 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: So it's still a learning phase for me. Two in 1149 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: their their hustlers, uh in that case. But it's a 1150 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: hard transition, Like I said, um, just to realize that 1151 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you've got to go out there and get get a job, 1152 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: and then you're you gotta slowly get rid of that 1153 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: military mindset. Because I was getting more and more of like, hey, 1154 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to be talked to, like that or 1155 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to they don't want your 1156 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: demeanor like that, you know, and you realize that you 1157 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: have to flip that switch. That's we're talking about with 1158 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Todd our our guests on the last show about that 1159 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,959 Speaker 1: same thing, that you have to adjust your own mentality. Yeah. 1160 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes those civilians, like I was a 1161 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: CrossFit coach. You know, it's funny. I remember you told 1162 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 1: me this story. I get these uh I get these 1163 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: um complaints from to my boss and it's like, hey, Riggy, 1164 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: I need you to tone it down a bit. And 1165 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: you can't just say like ten more push ups. So 1166 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, you guys that you were 1167 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 1: working with, though, we're like Wall Street executive type. You 1168 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to you know. So they just they just 1169 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: want to get a workout. They just want a little sweat. 1170 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: But I was like, hey, you're not done yet. You 1171 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: know my time right now? You know, I'm like you're 1172 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: They're like, no, I think I'm done, and I don't 1173 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: want to see you guys. You're standing there with your 1174 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: hands on your hips like one one one all the 1175 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: way down. I was like, you piece of ship. Not 1176 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: even one push that was conducted at that moment. It's 1177 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: like some woman and yoga pants. You don't deserve to 1178 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: live right now, but you all yourself a man, did 1179 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: you earn that water? Where are you drinking that? So yeah, 1180 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 1: I got I got complaints and they're like, hey, you 1181 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: gotta tone it down, you know. And then some people 1182 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 1: love that ship, you know. Some people like feed me more, 1183 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, like to be like top dirty, like all 1184 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: of the like damn okay, Like you know, you're like 1185 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: like you got two more, Oh, I got two more. Yeah, 1186 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: let's do this. I was like, whoa, Okay, you're getting 1187 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: too into it. That's great, man. So yeah, I mean 1188 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: it's it's funny. You gotta change You're right, you know, 1189 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: you gotta change that mentality. And then you got you 1190 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: guys took that switch. You know, you just gotta do you. 1191 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: So with all that, there's a couple of more things 1192 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I want to get into. You guys. Look out the window. Yeah, 1193 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: I know, Wow, it's actually snow and November ridiculous it is. 1194 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan. Um definitely want to be back 1195 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: in Florida where I'm going again though next month. Oh yeah, 1196 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 1: So I did want to talk about this article and 1197 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: just get you know, the comment of you guys on it. 1198 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: This is this one is from Army Times, but as 1199 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 1: you saw, Jack's all over the internet today. A female 1200 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: soldier has made it through the Army's Special Forces selection 1201 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: for the first time since the Army opened Special Operations. Um. 1202 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Sorry this has a giant link here, uh, but basically 1203 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: it's a Several women have attempted the twenty four day 1204 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 1: program part of the Special Forces Qualification course since then, 1205 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: but none have made it to the next round. Recently, 1206 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 1: a female successfully completed Special Forces Assessment and Selection and 1207 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: was selected to attend the Special Forces Qualification course. That 1208 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: was told to Army Times by Lieutenant Colonel Lauren Bimer 1209 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 1: or Buyer. We're proud of all the candidates who attend, 1210 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 1: but we're selected to continue into the qualification course in 1211 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: hopes of earning their green beret. USA socked decline to 1212 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: provide the soldiers rank or her current military occupation specialty. Um. Yeah, 1213 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: and it goes on from there. But I mean, this 1214 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: is the pretty big news, right. Typical Army public affairs 1215 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: people they're like, yeah, she made it through. We won't 1216 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: tell you anything else, but they made It's like thanks. Yeah, 1217 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean there's uh several questions. Uh, you know, I 1218 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: always that goes through my head like a like a checklist, 1219 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, is this a political agenda, like a you know, 1220 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: like a motive? Um? Is it? You know? Is there 1221 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: any form of bias in the cadres? Uh An he 1222 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: pushed from the chain of commands, you know all that, 1223 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: and then you know, and then you go and say, hey, 1224 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: you know that she clearly earned it. I'm not saying 1225 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: that she didn't. But I always go through those checklist, 1226 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, is there agenda to it? Just like you 1227 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: know how they go for the rangers, because the military 1228 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 1: uses this for like public relations, It's like pr stuff. 1229 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: And I mean that's not a thing against that individual soldier. Um. 1230 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 1: We talked a little while back about a woman who 1231 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: went through mar sock selection, made it all the way 1232 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 1: through and was a non select. She's a badass. You know, 1233 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: I have anything against her at all? Yeah, I mean, 1234 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 1: nothing against her, but you know, good for her. But um, 1235 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: I always see that, you know, just like my experience 1236 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: myself as an instructor, you know, there's there's times that 1237 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: there's you were human, we're all human, and we have 1238 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: you know if there's a connection between like you know, 1239 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 1: I have a little rep or you can let things 1240 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: slide in some ways, you know, especially in selections, and 1241 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: sometimes um, you know, we have that hey give it 1242 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: a go and see how you feel and or or 1243 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,600 Speaker 1: or give you know, or or I didn't see a 1244 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: type of thing, you know, and you get that in 1245 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: any school everyone school air assault, you know, just people 1246 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: get d Q just on the layouts, you know. I'm 1247 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: pretty sure you've seen it before, like you know, because 1248 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: they have somebody else that needs that slot, you know. 1249 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 1: And that's the what we call the dark side of 1250 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,720 Speaker 1: the military. Because we're all human. We all have you know, 1251 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: people who need favors and stuff like that. But that 1252 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, UM, me personally, UM, just like my wife, 1253 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you put your heart 1254 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: into it and work into it, you can make you 1255 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: can make it as uh, you can make you could 1256 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: be what you want, you know, and for her, I 1257 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 1: think that UM in the Green Beret or in the 1258 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:30,759 Speaker 1: Ranger Battalion. I don't think a selection should be based 1259 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: off I think the requirement itself shouldn't be set by 1260 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: how strong you are or how much how heavy a 1261 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 1: rucksack can be for you to march where it eliminates women, 1262 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: you know, agree with the structure because now let me 1263 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 1: let me let me go further with that way I'm 1264 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: going with this is, let's just say, martial arts my 1265 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: my specialty. Right do you think you know round a rousse? 1266 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 1: Can you ass? You're asking me? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, I 1267 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: would say. So. You know, like it takes a couple 1268 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: of girls, you know, Holly Holmes and all them. Do 1269 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: you think they could keep gass? They can't write? So 1270 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: what makes them a badass? You know? Do you think 1271 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 1: a female if you give them a gun? You know, 1272 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: you give them a weapon and tell him to shoot. 1273 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 1: You know, you see some ammu you know female marksman's. 1274 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: They're hitting targets. You know, So what disqualifies them from 1275 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 1: being a green braef? They are better shooting than you, 1276 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: better fighter than me, and smarter than you, right because 1277 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,240 Speaker 1: of they can't rock of a hundred and fifty pounds 1278 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 1: rucksack for forty miles. I mean some people will say, yeah, 1279 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 1: it's a throwback, but I mean even in Iraq, I 1280 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: mean I think I was weighing, like carrying ninety pounds 1281 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: of equipment on my body between body armor and everything else. Um, 1282 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you can all limit at it, 1283 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: but I definitely see the point. And I think there's 1284 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,440 Speaker 1: definitely a role for women to play in special operations. 1285 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to get at is that, you know, 1286 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: if it's tailored, if we're special ops is tailored, right, 1287 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be just about carrying a ruck exactly. You know, 1288 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: if it's tailored, then um, that person was specialized in 1289 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 1: something should be tailored to her her. You know, so 1290 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: maybe ninety pounds of equipment she could phably handle it, 1291 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, but going to be a different type of equipment. Yeah, 1292 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 1: maybe because she lably plays a different role. That's what 1293 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: That's what Mark Boyott said when when I talked to him. 1294 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: He was the third Special Forces Group commander, and he 1295 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 1: was like, we have got to find a way to 1296 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 1: get women on O. D A s. And maybe they're 1297 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: not actual green berets, they don't actually go through all 1298 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 1: the same training we did, but they went through you 1299 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: know of it. And yeah, maybe she can't carry that 1300 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: ruck sack as far as I can, but there are 1301 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 1: all these other things she can do that I can't. 1302 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,759 Speaker 1: So That's That's what I'm saying. It's like, it doesn't, 1303 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't. You don't judge that character by how far 1304 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: he can rock with that heavy with Zach, you know, 1305 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: because there's other things they bring to the table. Yeah, exactly. Um, 1306 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: we have some emails sent to soft up dot radio 1307 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: softrep dot com. We haven't heard from Gene Farnsworth in 1308 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know what. He sends voice memos, 1309 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: but I don't get to all of them. Here's a 1310 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: recent one. Alright, So this this guy sends us voice 1311 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 1: a retired sailor. Yeah, great, dude, So let's hear this one. 1312 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 1: Greenings my soft Rep ship mates, It's got a great 1313 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 1: you listen retired. If I got to do some catching 1314 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,639 Speaker 1: up on my soft rep podcast, I think like most people, 1315 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 1: I really really really enjoyed listening to Dale com Stock 1316 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: and kind of her his version of the cluster fuck 1317 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 1: over in the Middle East and his version of events 1318 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: versus the media. UM quite interesting. I always like to 1319 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 1: listen to that guy and then listen to Benny. That 1320 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 1: was quite interesting conversation. I could see where her and 1321 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: Jack may have some places in the future, and I 1322 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 1: laugh at that. I've been there. Done that, and it's 1323 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: all survivable. But when you congradulate on an episode four 1324 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 1: coming up, pretty fucking amazing. Since I don't know single 1325 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 1: digits and always find interesting, always find the articles written 1326 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: on your website pretty fascinating. I love seeing other vets 1327 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: views and opinions and many times facts what's going on worldwide. 1328 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Always interesting when those views and facts conflicts so strongly 1329 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: with all of the mainstream media, whether it comes out 1330 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 1: of Europe or the United States. And with all that, 1331 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: I will continue to wish you fair winds and following seas. 1332 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 1: And again, congratulations, thank you Jean, and happy Thanksgiving. Man Uh, 1333 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: it's awesome to hear from him. Did you ever tell 1334 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 1: the story about Jeane giving us the moonshine? I don't 1335 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: know if I was so part there. You were a 1336 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: part of it, whether you know it or not, because 1337 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: I gave you a mason jar of moonshine to take home. Yes, 1338 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: that was Gene. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Gene. 1339 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,639 Speaker 1: If I don't think I ever met Jeane in person, 1340 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: so unless my mind is completely remember the only shine 1341 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I do remember that and the bottle breaking, Remember the 1342 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 1: bottle breaking in my bag, getting all over the place. 1343 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: I'm almost posted it, and I guess I just didn't 1344 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,640 Speaker 1: wrap it well in my bag and because Jack you 1345 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: had one, and then you gave me one to bring home, 1346 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 1: and the thing exploded all over my bag. Probably I 1347 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 1: probably should have nailed it. He also he gave me that, 1348 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: and he also gave me the cinnamon moonshine is here 1349 01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: to take this. This will make the panties drop. I mean, 1350 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: this was like my first year at soccer, so it 1351 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: was only a few months in, So I mean, it's 1352 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 1: possible I didn't even know. Pretty I'm pretty sure it was. 1353 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: And Gene, if I'm wrong, I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure 1354 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 1: it was him giving me the giving me moonshine. I 1355 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 1: feel like I've never met Jane, so that's why. I mean, 1356 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I would have remembered that. But interesting, Okay, cool, 1357 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 1: Thanks as always, Gene. And then another email sent to us, 1358 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty cool. Um. Hey, I'm a 1359 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: listener of the podcast and have been. I'll say the 1360 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 1: first name of Lee. You know, I'd never know if 1361 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: they want to say the full name. Uh. I'm a 1362 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 1: listener of the podcast and have been for four years now. 1363 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Currently studying international Security in d c U Dublin City 1364 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 1: University in Ireland. Would just like to let you guys know. 1365 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: We had a class a few weeks back on American 1366 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 1: mercenaries and our lecture linked us to the article of 1367 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,719 Speaker 1: the m and Raid in which Dale Comstock was featured. 1368 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was fantastic and emailed the podcast to 1369 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 1: my lecture. She then went ahead and emailed it out 1370 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,680 Speaker 1: to the whole class and is making everybody listen to it. 1371 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: Great job, keep up the good work. I never thought 1372 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 1: that our podcast would be like assigned and because because 1373 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 1: this is as you can tell, this is so casual. 1374 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: There's nothing academic about this. But as you said, I 1375 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 1: mean we're getting a perspective from a guy that very 1376 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,600 Speaker 1: few I mean it was exclusive times and there. I 1377 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 1: know there have been like college courses where they cite 1378 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: um articles I've written. UM. I know there are like 1379 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 1: also veterans programs where they've cited UM articles I've written 1380 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: about like my experience going to college, and they'll say, 1381 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: this is an example of what not to do when 1382 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: you go to school. Don't be like Jack Murphy and 1383 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: and and do all this crazy stuff. UM. But yeah, 1384 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think we get authentic, legitimate sources that 1385 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 1: are not talking to anybody else. And uh and so 1386 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 1: for me, I mean it's it's humbling and flattering that 1387 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: uh that like this college course would turn to us 1388 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 1: for that kind of information. Yeah, I dig it. So 1389 01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,040 Speaker 1: I appreciated. I'm honored as well. Um and it you 1390 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: have any other email, send them to soft Rep dot 1391 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 1: Radio at soft rep dot com. Wrapping things up here, 1392 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 1: be sure to check out Create Club, the long anticipated 1393 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 1: collaboration watch we did with n FW Watches. You're wearing 1394 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 1: it nice. There is very little product placement, little product 1395 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 1: I was behind the camera. Zoom in a little bit more, 1396 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 1: but maybe put it on Instagram. 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So whether we're 1416 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 1: talking a pit bull at Chihuahua, it doesn't matter what 1417 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,720 Speaker 1: type of dog, they're gonna have something for you that 1418 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: your dog's gonna love. And you can see all of 1419 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,840 Speaker 1: that at Kuna dot Dog. That's kuned dot Dog. It's 1420 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 1: efficient for you and then your dog's gonna love it. 1421 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,760 Speaker 1: So it's c U n A dot d O G 1422 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 1: taking a sip of water as I'm saying all of this, UM. 1423 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: And then the last thing, of course I want to 1424 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,640 Speaker 1: mention is the spec ops channel. UM. People always love 1425 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 1: all the inside the team rooms and they're like, where 1426 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 1: are all those? And you can see those now at 1427 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: the spec Ops channel spec ops channel dot com. I 1428 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: mean we did the inside the team room, the Green Berets, 1429 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 1: Navy seals cut from the same cloth. Uh, then the 1430 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,719 Speaker 1: Intel guys. So we have that. We have Training Cell 1431 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 1: which follows former Special Operations Forces as they participate in 1432 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the most advanced training in the country. Everything from shooting schools, 1433 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 1: defensive driving, jungle and winter warfare, climbing and much more. So. 1434 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 1: All that stuff you're gonna get for only four a 1435 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 1: month women of time, uh, spec ops channel dot com. 1436 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 1: And there's also the app for that. There's the app 1437 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 1: for software Radio Software Radio dot com. We now have 1438 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,719 Speaker 1: the website up with where you can see the videos 1439 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 1: and we put them up and all that stuff and 1440 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 1: you'll get it first before anyone else. Um. I guess 1441 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: with that, man, I'm glad that we finally did this. 1442 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: This has been awesome. And uh, I don't do you 1443 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 1: have any social media you you could promote or I mean, 1444 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,320 Speaker 1: it's up to you, really, but you know, my Facebook 1445 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 1: is just probably you know, it's just that you don't 1446 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: have to promote anything. Just if you want to usually 1447 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: people or if you're you know, I guess if people 1448 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 1: want to train with you on Long Island, they can 1449 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 1: possibly do that goes pretty It's hard for me to train, 1450 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, but you gotta you gotta reach out to me. 1451 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: I do. And then but but then I you know, 1452 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: your schedule is kind of crazy that I go there 1453 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 1: and then you're with your wife a lot of time 1454 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: you're with your kids, So like, I don't want to 1455 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 1: bother you. Yeah, no, just you know, anytime, and I 1456 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 1: can move my schedule around and that's so basically it cool, awesome, 1457 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,920 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on. It's been really interesting. 1458 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 1: It was very interesting, you know, sharing my experience and 1459 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, it's uh, as long as 1460 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: you know everybody's you can get the message across, you know. 1461 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 1: That's what I think. That's why I actually came, is 1462 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 1: trying to you know, at least get a message across that. 1463 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of good people out there. 1464 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: And you know, even if you're you know, a regular 1465 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: police officer, I mean, you know, it's awesome. It's it's 1466 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 1: you have a unique perspective on on things from your 1467 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: unique background. So I mean, I think it's really cool. 1468 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 1: I'm glad we could have you on today. Thank you. 1469 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,799 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man Soccer Radio dot Com has always 1470 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: got at software Radio on Instagram and Twitter. We also 1471 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: have the Facebook page up and once again if you 1472 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 1: want to email us soft rep dot radio at soft 1473 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 1: rerep dot com signing out. Thanks guys, appreciate it. You've 1474 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: been listening to self rep Radio. New episodes up every 1475 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday. Follow the show on Instagram and Twitter 1476 01:21:47,439 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: at self rep Radio