1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: My name is Matt our colleague nol Is on Adventures. 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't see him? Do you see him? They called 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: You are here that makes this stuff they don't want 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: you to know. This is a very special listener mail addition, Folks, 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: if you are tuned into this show the day it 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: comes out, then you, like hopefully us, are on the 13 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: cusp of twenty twenty one, and if you are listening 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: on this the very last day of the year, we 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for letting us be 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: part of this final day with you. It's nuts, Matt. 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: We've got list of males, but I almost wanted to 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: just have a cavalcade of things that happened this year 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: that everybody forgot about her, that got swept under the rug. 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, Yeah, so many things have 21 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: happened in and a lot of it happened in the 22 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: cover of a brain fog that we've all been experiencing 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: because of the year and all the things that have 24 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: been happening. What do you think, what's something that happened 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: besides you know, the first pandemic in a long long time. Yeah, 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: we're the first pandemic to affect so many people. Yeah. Yeah. 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: While we know that there were massive protests in the US, uh, 28 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: some have led to lasting changes in legislation. We know 29 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: that these protests happened, you know, amid the pandemic. If 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: this we're painting, the pandemic is the the background right 31 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: the sky in the field um which these other store 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: news stories take place. We also, as the species, made 33 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: some amazing advancements in space. We have successfully launched man 34 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: made craft at asteroids, bit off a little piece of 35 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: those asteroids and somehow got it back. So think about 36 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: that next time your your package is five days late. 37 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm thinking about Kim John June going 38 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: missing and then maybe being back, but then maybe being 39 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: missing again. It's been a weird saga. We've known each 40 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: other a while. Man, It's it's been tough for me 41 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: not to act like not to accidentally slip into North 42 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: Korean updates every time we do strange news, but I 43 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: hope I'm doing an okay job with it. We have 44 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: one of the most contentious election in US history. We 45 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: have seen Um, you know, I think it is not 46 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: hyperbolic to say that we have seen the best and 47 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: the worst of humanity in this year. This is a 48 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: anthology that somehow became something between chicken soup for the 49 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: teenage soul and uh love crafty and horror. Best of times, 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: worst of times, well, not the best of times, though 51 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: it's mostly the worst. It's mostly the worst. There were 52 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: some good times. Fires across the globe, a lot of 53 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: them in Australia, in California, murder hornets were hanging out 54 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: for a minute there. Um. Yeah, this this whole thing 55 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: has just been It's been insane. Um. I cannot wait 56 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: for one when assuredly even worse things will will start 57 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah. I was gonna say, you know, I 58 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I I don't want to be that person in conversation 59 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: when people talk about looking forward to one. But the 60 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: most frightening thing about this is that it is possible 61 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: that's sometime mid we may all collectively look back on 62 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: and deem it not that bad, right, That's that's the 63 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: spooky thing. I don't know if it's necessarily productive thinking, 64 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: because we do have to be prepared for this sort 65 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: of stuff. We do hope that this message finds you aware, 66 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: but we hope it also finds you, if not inspired, determined, Right, 67 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: we've all been through a lot together. We're immensely thankful 68 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: for every single person who has written to us. We've 69 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: we've received amazing stories, and out of the interest of 70 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: people's privacy, we don't always read them online. We do 71 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: try to respond when when we can, when it's helpful. 72 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: But your fellow listeners have been through a lot this year, 73 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: and for everyone who says that this show helped them 74 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: in one way, infantesimal or not, we think it's really 75 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: important that you know they're talking about you too. When 76 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: they say this. They're not just talking about Matt Noel 77 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: and Doc and Mission Control and myself. They're talking about 78 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: you in a very real way. So that's an unnecessary 79 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: ted talk, isn't it. Matt, were immensely thankful for everyone 80 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: who's hearing this right now, because we couldn't continue to 81 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: make this show if you weren't there listening, doing whatever 82 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: you're doing. And honestly, we thank you. That's what Ben 83 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: means when he says they're talking about you as well, 84 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: because if not for you, then we this does not exist. 85 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Um so absolutely right. And the person who sending a 86 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: voicemail that we're gonna be playing today, they sent to voicemails. 87 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: One of them we're not going to play, the other 88 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: one we will. In the one you're not going to hear, 89 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: they mentioned that this person sent it on November nine, 90 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: and I just heard it today because I'm so behind. 91 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: And it's funny that this person even mentioned the date, 92 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: because it is weird to time travel in a way 93 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: when going through all of these as we continue to 94 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: try and do so, there's so many of them, and 95 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: so many of you have important things to say. We 96 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: very much appreciate everything you're you're saying. Yeah, I just 97 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: would to be very clear that entire first uh first 98 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: segment thanking you specifically you was for Kim Jong un, 99 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: who is like a super fan. The guy's dialed in 100 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: every day. Uh but thanks thanks Kim. Thanks, but he 101 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: did not send us an amazing voicemail. Well, we don't know, 102 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: we don't think he sent us a voicemail as amazing 103 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: as this gentleman. Here and here's the message in the 104 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: subject matter vaccines. Just got done listening to that episode. 105 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: See if I can do this quicker, long long ago 106 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: in the before time, young Viking of seventeen years old 107 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: joined branch of the military to speak Valhalla as it were, 108 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: and doing so, going to boot camp, run the medical 109 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: gauntlet right then, I'll tell you what's in the bloody shops. 110 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: They just tell you take it, move on with your day. 111 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: So the young Viking does and experience that mild Caesar 112 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned high body tamp produced sweating, dizziness. He had 113 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: to crawl out of there. There was no other way 114 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: but claim that some juice a random cupcake on thing 115 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: to find a boot camp. But there it is fine. 116 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: Fast track another three months, young Viking is dropped from 117 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: his training regiment because of pneumonia. And recovering from pneumonia 118 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: and the and taking the rounds and rounds of antibiotics, um, 119 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: the young Viking developed something far worse, something called on 120 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: the Ray syndrome. If you gentlemen, know much of it, 121 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: it's intense. Most of the cases of learned or striking 122 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: people in the military, which is interesting. What are they 123 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: given us? Anyway, this young Viking had to go through 124 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a long to year recovery program to get back on 125 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: his speed. At the height of the problem, the young 126 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: man lost the strength to even hold toothbrush. They you 127 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: go from roaring seventeen freader to go and devout. How 128 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: that's I can't hold the toothbrush. That's a that's a 129 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: mind numbing trip. Now we're running out of time. Uh, 130 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: the facts, you know. To stop the problem, um, they 131 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: use a mediocal opulent, which is a blood agent, supposed 132 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: to stop it. But in doing so, they tell you 133 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: you can no longer have any vaccinations of any kind, 134 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: for it may start the process over again. We don't 135 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: know exactly what starts it, at least that's what they're 136 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: telling me. They don't know. And the vacts, which you 137 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: know right now, that's a scary thought process because mandatory 138 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: vaccines might be on the horizon. What does that mean 139 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: for an autistic gentleman like myself. I can't take it. 140 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: I'm not doing gander again. You can't make me anny 141 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: out of time. And that's the message from the person 142 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna be calling the Viking. Um wow, so powerful 143 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: scary story that that he has to share about, you know, 144 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: getting a vaccine as part of a regiment for joining 145 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: a part of the United States military. And you know, 146 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: this is a very common thing when when you sign up, 147 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: this is part of the deal. You get vaccinated, be 148 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: especially depending on where you're going to be deployed, where 149 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: you may be deployed, as well as for other internal 150 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: reasons for the military. Then there you see, there seemed 151 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: to be some side effects. It would seem that the 152 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: side effects had to do with a vaccine and not 153 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: for some you know, not some other thing. The pneumonia 154 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: do you describe the the Guian beret Um, that's I mean, 155 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: that's pretty terrifying to think that it could have come 156 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: from that vaccine. I can't prove that, but you know, 157 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: you went through a listener, so man, that's that's really scary. 158 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: And then imagining that there is or there could be 159 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: a mandatory vaccination coming through I'm hoping that there would be, 160 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: you know, and again, it's not mandatory right now, right 161 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: there's been no there's there's been no legislation put forth 162 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: or executive order put forth. It would say every person 163 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: on the planet has to get a COVID nineteen vaccination, 164 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: But the feeling is maybe that it would be that 165 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: way or could be that way. And I understand that feeling, 166 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: because you know, it's scary times right now, and it 167 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: does feel as though we might all, or at least 168 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: as many of us as possible, may need to get 169 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: this vaccination. And I know that there's a lot of 170 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: trepidation out there already just at the idea of getting 171 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: a vaccination in general. So I I don't I just 172 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: this spoke to me. This message spoke to me. So 173 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: thank you Viking for sending this in and letting us 174 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: know about it and making and posing this question to 175 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: us to think about the possibilities in our near future. Agreed. Yeah, yeah, 176 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I second everything you said here, Matt. Thank you very much, Viking. Uh. 177 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: And also great voice, good storyteller. Uh. This requires us 178 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: to level set and introduce everybody to a few concepts 179 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: if you are unfamiliar things that Viking references in this tale. 180 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: So Beyond Beret syndrome, also known as GBS, is a 181 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: rare disorder. It's a neurological disorder in which your immune 182 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: system start to attack parts of your what's called your 183 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: peripheral nervous system, right, yeah, exactly. It essentially eats away 184 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: at the sheathing around your nerves. That's one of the 185 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: main things that it does. It exposes your nerves within 186 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: your body. Your body does this to itself. Um. And 187 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: it is a weird thing because there's there are so 188 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: few people who come down with this syndrome, so few 189 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: people that get it, and especially as a side effect 190 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: to a vaccination, because it is one thing that has 191 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: been observed. Uh, there seems to be a correlation, but 192 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: it's we're talking single digits out of a million people 193 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: who get affected by this syndrome due to a vaccination. 194 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: It's awful. It's rare, and it is terrible to go through. 195 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: It's a terrifying lottery, you know what I mean. That's 196 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: that's the thing about rare disorders or conditions. At some point, 197 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: if you are affected by these, or if you know someone, 198 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: at some point you have to ask yourself why out 199 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: of millions of people me and Matt, as you pointed out, 200 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: in rare cases, it does appear that there is a 201 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: correlation between vaccinations and the risk of contracting this very 202 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: rare condition, but there are other things that have been 203 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: observed creating this. Occasionally surgery will result in this sort 204 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: of the immune system turning on these nerve groups. Peripheral 205 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: nerve systems. By the way, just think of anything that's 206 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: not your brain or your spinal cord. Uh, and this 207 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: is no this is no laughing matter. It makes sense 208 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: that immunoglobulin is used to treat it, but it's Uh. 209 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: I'm curious about the correlation with the military and this 210 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: syndrome because you'll see studies that contradict each other on 211 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: this right on the link between vaccination and GBS. Sometimes 212 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: you'll see people arguing there's no GBS vaccination relationship, or 213 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: arguing that it is. What's the phrase, statistically negligible, so 214 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: like it's it's so small that the margin of error 215 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: might explain it. But then I think we've both seen 216 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: the same stuff where it does to a degree seemed 217 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: to in rare cases, contribute to this. So I'm with 218 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you Viking. If I had lived through this condition and 219 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: my doctors told me that I would not be able 220 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: to receive, say a COVID nineteen vaccination because it would 221 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: trigger this condition again, or even could then I wouldn't 222 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: want to run the risk. And I think, like I 223 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: think that has to be a protected group right for 224 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: a mandated vaccine, Like you shouldn't be mandated to take 225 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: a treatment in that case. I'm sure that there's gonna 226 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: be some sort of law or exception about that. Right 227 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: would certainly assumes. So I mean, come on, let's let's 228 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,479 Speaker 1: get into you know, I was speaking very generally about 229 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: the rate of cases of GBS. Let's go to the 230 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: CDC really quickly about UM. Somewhere between eighty and a 231 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty cases of GBS occur every week. That's 232 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: the that's according to the CDC S website CDC doug gov. 233 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: And this is outside of any vaccination. That is, just 234 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: GBS arises a d two sixty times newly in people 235 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: every week. And what they are saying is that when 236 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: the flu vaccination comes around and becomes flu season and 237 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: people are being vaccinated, they are saying that around one 238 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: to two additional cases are added to that per one 239 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: million doses of flu vaccine. That's where Ben is saying, statistically, Um, 240 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: if that's true, if those numbers bear out, I just 241 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: wanted to put that out there that is god man. 242 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: It says they're an estimated three thousand to six thousand 243 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: people who develop GBS every year, and then you think about, 244 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, the millions of people who live in this country. 245 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: It is it is a very very rare thing. M hmm. 246 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: But that's something being rare is not in any way 247 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: the same thing as something not existing. So this incredibly dangerous. 248 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this based on some of 249 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: our earlier conversations Matt. Remember how we talked a little 250 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: bit about where the fear or concern for vaccination comes from, 251 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, like a distrust of institutions that have done 252 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: horrible or unethical things in the past. If we look 253 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: at the military, we find we find some records of 254 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: massive forced vaccinations. While one of the most prominent I 255 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: could find was the rush to give every US military 256 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: member a yellow fever vaccine and unlicensed for civilian use 257 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: vaccine by the way, in nineteen two. This was along 258 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: with forced typhoid, smallpox, and tetanus vaccines. The yellow fever 259 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: vaccine contained human serum, and according to some reports I 260 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: saw some of these lots were contaminated with the hepatitis 261 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: B virus. So this is um. It's still not yellow fever, 262 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: but this is incredibly dangerous and the military, you know, 263 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: they are these questions of informed consent coming up because 264 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: you can't disobey orders. If it is your order to 265 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: take a vaccination, then it seems like you there's not 266 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: a way to plead out of it. You can't say 267 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: you have a religion that it's against, or of a 268 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: phobia of needles or something. But I I can understand 269 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: why people would be as at what was it the 270 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: stage to testing or stage two trials of the current 271 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: vaccines Maderna and Fiser were. I mean, they were rush jobs. 272 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: They had to be to save people's lives. So it 273 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: is fair if we logically ask whether we are in 274 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: the same or a similar boat as service members were 275 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: in forty two. But to your point, Viking, I don't 276 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: think it makes you a anti vaxer or whatever thought 277 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: terminating cliche people are using these days. I think your 278 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: medical history, your mind, your body there is unique as 279 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: your fingerprints, you know what I mean. And there's nothing 280 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: wrong or unethical about following the doctor's advice. Very true. 281 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't know it's easy to say that if you're 282 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: not personally affected though, right, Well, yeah, and you also, 283 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine what if there are restrictions on any 284 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: individual that hasn't been vaccinated against the coronavirus or this 285 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: or some specific train or you know, the update for 286 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: one or whenever whatever occurs down the road. If Viking 287 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: can't be vaccinated for something because he's at risk of 288 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: developing him bray again. Um, but then their restrictions on 289 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: him because he can't go and visit family members or 290 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: he can't go out in public. It's catastrophizing a little 291 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: bit on my end, but it does feel as though 292 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: we're in this weird new world where things like that 293 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: are not only possible, they're inevitable. Doesn't mean they are, 294 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: but it feels that way. Gosh, I don't want to 295 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: leave on a down note for you, Viking, but we 296 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: we need to take a break. Um. When we come back, 297 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: we'll we'll hear from another listener and you know, we 298 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: might even discuss this further. But rest assured we will 299 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: be back shortly. And we have returned, but we have 300 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: not returned alone. No, it's not just code named Doc 301 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: Matt and myself. We're bringing along with us one and 302 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: only Andrew L. Uh, Andrew says, hello conspiracy friends. First 303 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: and foremost, I love All the Stuff podcast. It's much 304 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: like Johnny five reading all the books more input. So 305 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: thank you for filling my ears and brain with intelligent 306 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: and well researched material. Ah shucks, you know, Matt, Just 307 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: whenever we get a letter that starts off this way, 308 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're buttering us up for something, you know. 309 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: Most assuredly, Andrew, we see you, see what you're doing. Well, 310 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: let's let's do where this rabbit hole goes. Andrew says, 311 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm writing today is a response to the microwave weapons 312 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: listener mail and how we could possibly be surrounded by 313 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: these devices, even if it's not the intention right now. 314 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: I even exposed myself to this while hiking the Appalachian 315 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Trail around five years ago. If you're not aware, says Andrew, 316 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: many railroads and other industrial communications use microwave point to 317 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: point calms. In simple terms, they're using communication devices with 318 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: a point to point relay system, with microwaves being the 319 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: data cary medium, much like cellular uses four G LTE 320 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: five G digital frequency ranges and of course two point 321 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: four gigga hurts five gigger hurts WiFi signals were familiar 322 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: with by now, so they have these tight spotlight beams 323 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: that send or received communication. Normally they're attached to radio 324 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: towers or high cliff areas where there's no interference with 325 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: the ground or trees. They're also used to communicate between 326 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: Earth and satellites and space. Here's where he starts bringing 327 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: this together. He's saying, I'm guessing companies that make and 328 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: use these devices aren't considering them as weapons to point 329 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: at people, but they could cause the same issues as 330 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: weaponized microwave devices. And you know, Matt, I don't know 331 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're up for it, but do you do? You 332 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: want to give us a dramatic reading of Andrew's Andrew's 333 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: personal experience there and the Appalachians, Andrew says, to my self, 334 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: exposure that sounds weird. As I was enjoying a hike 335 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: through the Appalachian Mountains on the world famous trail, I 336 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: found a wonderful cliff spot to sit and have lunch 337 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: overlooking a vast forest, watching a couple of eagles fly 338 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: around searching for their own meal. I started to feel 339 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: very odd and hot. While I did notice the giant 340 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: microwave dish pointed directly at me, with many warning signs posted. 341 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand the technology like I do today. 342 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: While I've spent a majority of my life as an 343 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: audio engineer, microwave frequencies weren't quite in my mind until 344 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: I spent a little too much time on the cliff 345 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: side by. Now, I'm sure you and my fellow listeners 346 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: are rolling your eyes and screaming, you moron. I don't 347 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: think we are, Andrew, but let's continue. After my lunch, 348 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: I felt really sick. I was only there for ten 349 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes, and I had one of the worst 350 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: headaches I've ever experience at and I used to suffer 351 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: from terrible sinus issues. My body ached more than usual, 352 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: and it took the rest of the day to start 353 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: feeling normal again. While hiking the trail, it's quite common 354 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: to be sick and exhausted because you're lucky to take 355 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: in half the calories you're spending while adventuring onto the 356 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: next camping spot. As far as I can tell, there 357 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: hasn't been any long term effects from this exposure, but 358 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: I haven't sought testing of this either. I just thought 359 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: this was an interesting idea and a little story from 360 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: my personal experiences. And Andrew goes on to say, while 361 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't agree with much of the five G conspiracies 362 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: or other frequency type weapons, I do understand that we 363 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: are constantly surrounded and bombarded by different energies and frequencies. 364 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: Lights of frequencies we can see, sound, frequencies we can 365 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: hear and sometimes feel. Who knows where our evolution will 366 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: go with our world completely surrounded by energy of all frequencies. 367 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: After all, vibes are frequencies we feel from the world 368 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: around us. When will that just be a trick to 369 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: our brains? If it isn't already, then, Andrew, you go 370 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: on to say, I'll have to send in another with 371 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: my ideas of Amazon starting their own currency, much like 372 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: in Mr. Robots, So thank you so much. There are 373 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: a couple of points here that that this sent me 374 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: on a bit of a rabbit hole. For Uh, First, 375 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: this letter is odd because earlier, completely unrelated, I was 376 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: writing a dystopian sci fi story about Let's take get Suit, 377 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: about a company very much like Amazon with a ruler 378 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: very much like Jeff and uh we just call him 379 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Jeff on this show, and one of the big plot 380 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: points in this in this story was starting one's own 381 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: currency because much like whole companies made famous in that 382 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: song sixteen tons, corporations benefit by creating script and paying 383 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: in script. You know, it's it's not as crazy or 384 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: is it as distant a possibility as it may seem 385 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: like the United States of America did it? They? There 386 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: we go. Somebody has been listening to our classic episodes. 387 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: What was that? What was that line from? Is taxation legal? 388 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: When people are tax activists would go to court and 389 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: say I take that at value or something like that. Yeah, 390 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: oh it's in there somewhere, but yeah, I'd have to 391 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: go back and jump start all that stuff that that 392 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: is a cavernous thing the activists, uh, and and just 393 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: the things that they're able to argue in court. That's 394 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: what court's for, you know, yeah. But for me, I'm 395 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: just there's another piece here, which is this how much 396 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: radiation there are? How many energy waves of one sword 397 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: or another are you exposed to every day? Let's assume 398 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: that you're not going through an X ray uh system 399 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: of some sort. Let's assume that you're not like me 400 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: and my ill fated friends trying to build microwave weapons 401 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: in Junkyard tractor trailers. You're not eating a bunch of bananas, 402 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: which also have radiation. What's what's the average dose? We've 403 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: got an answer. According to the National Council on Radiation 404 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: Protection and Measurements, the average annual radiation dose per person 405 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: in the US is six point to mill a RIM. 406 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: And you can see a pretty good breakdown on EPA 407 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: dot gov of where all this stuff, where all this 408 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: stuff comes from. I know it's not quite the same 409 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: as being inundated with some other type of energy, but 410 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: I think it's important to know. I think you raise 411 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: a good point Andrew. Invisible things move about and through us. 412 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: It's just scientifically it's a fact. Also, I am going 413 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: to pretend that when you said vibes, you were referring 414 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: to the Jeff gold Blooms Cyndi Lapper film Vibes, which 415 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: is just tremendous. That have I mentioned vibes to you before? Yeah, 416 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: we we had a conversation about you want me to 417 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: stop mentioning vibes? Is this the people are gonna look 418 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: it up? Yes, be that agent of chaos. But Matt, 419 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about this because we've talked 420 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: about this in the past before. What's your take on 421 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: concerns about radiation and what we're exposed to our day 422 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: to day lives. I remember specifically our earlier listener male 423 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: conversation regarding where one should store their phone right pants pocket, 424 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: you sleep with it by your head, etcetera. Yeah, I 425 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: mean that was the whole conversation and about it not 426 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: being smart to be in your pocket, especially if you're 427 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: worried about viability to procreate at some point. Um, no 428 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: matter what you're you know, working with down there, your organs, 429 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: your soft tissue organs are not there. It's not good 430 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: to irradiate them a lot with your your cellular devices, 431 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: which they do put out radiation. And just so you know, uh, 432 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: that is a thing that is a known thing. Whether 433 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: or not it's enough to truly harm you is right 434 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: now a bit up in the air, but I would 435 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: recommend against it. But we had several we had several 436 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: people right in about this. One caller, you remember, he 437 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: for his job, he climbs up sell and radio towers, 438 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: and he told us that story about being exposed to 439 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: five G and four G and all these other different things, 440 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: like very close to the actual dishes where the energy 441 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: is being sent out, and he said the only time 442 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: that he ever felt truly sick was by an FM 443 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: radio signal, and the frequency is coming out of an 444 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: FM signal. Um. That isn't to say that Andrew didn't 445 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: experience something real. There were warning signs around the dish 446 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: that he was near. He experienced something real. It just 447 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how often that happens and how dangerous 448 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: it could be for just a passer by or someone 449 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: in a city. We talked about the the rumors surrounding 450 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: five G technology and some of the scientific papers that 451 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: we're looking at possibilities behind the tech. Um. You know, 452 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: as of right now, I'm a little weirded out by 453 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: it because mostly it has to do with frequency ranges. 454 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: When you're talking, when you're speaking about five G. That 455 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: that's something that we broke down in a in a 456 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: different episode. It's just the the mega hurts at which 457 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the signals are being sent, the frequencies at which are 458 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: being sent and read right, Yeah, yeah, that's correct, and 459 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: it's also yeah, it's a matter of degree. It's also 460 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: a matter of proximity. Right, So what we're talking about 461 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: our r F radio frequency intensities. It is true that 462 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: exposure to high URF intensity can result in physiological changes. 463 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: It can result in the heating of biological tissue and 464 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: increase in body temperature. Exposure to high RF levels can 465 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: cause tissue damage in humans because your body can not 466 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: physically cope with or dissipate all the excessive heat that 467 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: can be generated. You know what I mean. It's like 468 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: it's like a computer that has a couple of heat sinks. 469 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't grow more when it gets hot. There you go, Yeah, 470 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: that makes complete sense. So, Andrew, we're going to pause 471 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: for a moment for a word from our sponsors, but 472 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: stay tuned because we're returning and we're not leaving your 473 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: letter behind just yet. We have one more thing that 474 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: we think might surprise you. Vibes, go and watch it 475 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: today and we're back as always. Shout out to everyone 476 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: who paused this podcast for Wait how long is vibes 477 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: screening of Vibes for a screening for a screening of 478 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: the nineteen critics Darling Vibes. Uh wow, I can't believe 479 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: we have just kept this one going. I'm sorry. I know. 480 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: I beat the horse dead. I dug it up and 481 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: now we're riding it into the sunset and that dead 482 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: horses vibes. Ah, here's the thing, Andrew. So when you 483 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: said vibes, you were describing what is often called intuition, 484 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: a gut feeling, a hunch, a spider sense. This is 485 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: something that most of us experienced to one degree or 486 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: another at some point now our lives. Like, Matt, do 487 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: you ever have intuitive moments all the time? That my 488 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: life is one long intuitive moment that fluctuates in morphs. 489 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So like your superpowers, continual deja vous, I'll 490 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: just it never right now. It's from a few moments ago. 491 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: Last time you said that, like you said the whole thing. 492 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: Uh no, ben I, I don't ever get vibes. You know, 493 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: you've never had You've never had a feeling where you 494 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: think I should not go you know here immediately, or 495 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: um an impulse that you can't quite explain. Generally, it 496 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have to do with a place or an action. 497 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: I think has more to do with a person an individual, 498 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: like meeting someone for the first time or in conversation 499 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: with someone. That's when my spiky sense vibes thing goes 500 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: off in a positive or negative way. Okay, now I'll 501 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: play this game. Oh quit prope Okay, we'll do a 502 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: quick pro quo clarise kind of thing. Okay, so I 503 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: have to ask, Okay, do you recall your your vibes 504 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: or your spidy since when you met me, where you 505 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: met Noel Brown or when you met code named Doc, 506 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: because I think you two knew each other longer than 507 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: you and I have, right, I believe, so yeah, I know, definitely, yes, 508 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: Alexis and I have known each other. I couldn't tell 509 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: you the year, but I do know it's closely associated 510 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: with my like video production life that used to be 511 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: that Alexis is still very strong in Um she's a 512 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: master of her craft. Yeah, oh yeah, and uh yeah, 513 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: but that that's generally how we met. And there's yeah, 514 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: very much positive vibes around around all of that. What 515 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: was did we work on something did we work on 516 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: something like in the college years? No, I think that 517 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: the first thing that were you on that portal music 518 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: video with Annie? That's it. Yeah, that's where that's the 519 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: first time I oh my god, yeah, we made I'm 520 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: sorry this is Insider Baseball and everybody else. We made 521 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: a music video around the video game portal because there 522 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: was a song from the National that they there was 523 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: a competition to make a music video for it, and 524 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: we made one and Alexa red behind the camera. I 525 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: don't think that I actually operated camera on that. I 526 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: was just sort of there giving positive vibes the well, 527 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: it was a good experience. And then there were many 528 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: we lived on it. Well, I lived in a commune 529 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: and Alexis was a frequent guest the commune, right right, so, 530 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: and Annie Reese, uh, friend of the show, Is was 531 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: also in that video, right mm hmm. Yeah. And then 532 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: the first yeah, then the first time I met you've 533 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: been um, the vibes were definitely like extra solar, I 534 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: would say in a like oh we've met before. We 535 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: it was. It was a weird thing, how flattering? Yes, yeah, 536 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: the cloud Atlas moment I call it. I'm not joking. 537 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: It was weird. I'm curious. Was were we all coworkers 538 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: when the portal video happened? Yes? Okay, okay, god wow, 539 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: memories of funny thing. But the reason we're asking asking this, 540 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: we are going to bring it back to your letter, Andrew, 541 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: is because people skeptics and true believers and you know, 542 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: people who consider themselves. Intensely spiritual or intensely religious. All 543 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: encounter something we call intuition, All encounter something we call 544 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: a vibe or a hunch. We us to explain it 545 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: through different cultural perspectives. So for very very skeptical people, 546 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: it may be something like intuition is an aggregate of 547 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: subtle signals that we pick up unconsciously through our existing senses. 548 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: But then other people might say it is a small 549 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: still voice inside of me, which should be familiar to many, 550 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: many adherents of Western religion. This is so common, this 551 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: is so ubiquitous throughout the human experience that Uncle Sam 552 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: stepped in not too long ago and poured millions of 553 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: dollars into research on intuition and I would say short 554 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: term premonition into vibes. And this program, which may have 555 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: heard of, sorry, under the Office of Naval Research. It 556 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: lasted for four years. Officially in this leg it was 557 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: re point eight five million dollars, and they specifically wanted 558 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: to give sailors and marines a spidy sense, a sixth sense. 559 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: They were taking this seriously, and they found some interesting 560 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: I mean hashtag no Bruce Willis, but they found some 561 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: interesting stuff. Yeah. Well, they really did, and they didn't. 562 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: They didn't call it extrasensory perception or what was the 563 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: other thing? Um pete? What is p k uh psycho psychis? Yeah, psychokinesis. 564 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: They didn't call it that, so they called it sense making. 565 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: And what is the actual thing, perceptual training systems. Oh yeah, yeah, interesting, 566 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: and this is very real. Here is a bit of 567 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: a quote. This is about what is being taught to 568 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: active duty marines. Ready, some active duty marines. They're being 569 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: taught to pre empt snipers i e. D And placers 570 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: and other irregular alts using advanced perceptual competences that have 571 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: not been well studied. Oh my gosh, the Twilight Zone music, 572 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: the Strangers Things theme. Ah man, this is so amazing. Wow. 573 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I just want to know more about what it actually is. 574 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: Is it like testing somebody and like taking them down 575 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: a trail or something where there is you know, a 576 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: dummy i e. ED somewhere and it's just trying like 577 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: doing it over and over and over until you can 578 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: begin to sense where it is. Is it watching for 579 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: small irregularities or like man, because you got to think 580 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: either it is fully an extrasensory perception that is being 581 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: taught there, or it's a high level of micro changes 582 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: or micro differences in things that is being taught to 583 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: be noticed, Right, that's what I'm imagining. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 584 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: This is a I guess maybe the most extreme way 585 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: to describe this would be weaponized intuition, which, again, everybody 586 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: at some point in their life seems to have some 587 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: experience like this. The way the Navy defines it, I 588 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: think is a good place for us to crack in here, 589 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: because sense making is defined as quote, a motivated, continuous 590 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: effort to understand connections, whether among people, places, or events, 591 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: in order to anticipate their trajectories and act effectively. So that's, 592 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, the notoriously sexy language of the US federal government. 593 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: But it's it's also I think level setting. It makes 594 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: it sound a little less sci fi or supernatural because 595 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: they're really it's as if they're connecting the dots. But 596 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: I think the more interesting question is the one you 597 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: just asked, which is what are they actually learning. This 598 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: is real fringe mill military research, and it did result 599 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: in a training manual, a twenty three page manual on 600 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: sense making, and it breaks it down into two distinct 601 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: skills perspective taking and then characterizing. You may recognize them 602 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: by their street names, empathy and imagination, respectively. This I 603 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: don't know. At first, it feels like it's a little 604 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: a little softball. It's a little difficult to see how 605 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: helpful this can be. Can you train a spider sense? 606 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: Can you train people to pick up and act upon 607 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: vibes in a successful way? Uh? I don't know. I 608 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: don't know, Ben, but I want to be a part 609 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: of a trial. I'm not an active duty marine. I 610 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: probably will never be one. I don't have what it takes. 611 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: Shout out to anyone who does. Um, yeah, I want 612 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: to try it, though, did give us give us a call. 613 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: I think Ben would totally be down on it, and Paul, 614 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: we'd all be down. So give us a call if 615 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: we're allowed to, uh to try it out? Yeah, Paul. 616 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: Paul is probably the toughest of us to get on board. 617 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: I think Applebee's gift card would serve you well as 618 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: a stipend. But this, this is the thing. Like, without 619 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: spending too much time on this, I'm just fascinated by it. 620 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: Maybe it's an episode in the future. I don't know. Uh. 621 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: Their rough conclusion was that, uh, that there's something there 622 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: and it's something trainable, and it's something that you know, 623 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: like math or literature. Some people seem to have a 624 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: natural knack for he said, it's some low level of 625 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: it is common in most people. And uh, it's extraordinary 626 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: and a rare, like a very small percentage of the 627 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: population at least that they studied, who are all military 628 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: members by the way, so that excuse it too. But 629 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: the reason they're doing this for, the reason they found 630 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: this research worthwhile, was that this sort of heuristic approach 631 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: in a life or death what would they call fluid 632 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: situation where things are happening very quickly and those quick 633 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: decisions will have lasting consequences, this kind of intuitive reaction 634 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: or this intuitive mental stance can save lives in contrast 635 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: to the slower, more deliberate checklist process that could be 636 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: too slow in the field of battle. I also want 637 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: to say, bringing it back around to our earlier episode 638 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: this week, Doc Matt, you'll love this. Imagine how good 639 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: this would make you a gaming I mean, I think 640 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of gamers who have 641 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: probably already sharpened their intuition in a significant way. You 642 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: can't improve these skills maybe right, that would be incredible 643 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: and and speaking of that like almost a game of vacation. 644 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: Did you see in this article from Time the concept 645 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: of power dreaming In the bottom of this article they 646 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: talk about what they're a program that is meant to 647 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: I believe it's to help issues with PTSD related dreams 648 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: and nightmares. But there's this incredible thing happening at what 649 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: is it. It's a naval hospital in Bremerton in Washington State. 650 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 1: They're they're doing this research program or they're conducting research 651 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: program called power dreaming. And this is what the process 652 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: goes like. Okay, let's say a soldier is aware that 653 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: they have just awoken from a nightmare. They get out 654 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: of bed, they go to this computer that's probably in 655 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: the room with them. They put on some kind of 656 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: virtual reality device. There's a heart rate variability biofeedback device 657 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: on their forearm. Uh, and then what is it? There's 658 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: there's a another biofeedback device. They open book of dreams 659 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: and they enter Second life? Is everyone aware of Second Life? God? 660 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: How would you describe that? It's a virtual reality simulation 661 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: like social media game kind of. I don't know. It's 662 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: very interesting concept. Has been around for a long time. 663 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: But then they they're using that as a way to 664 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: change Using the biofeedback, they're able to change what the 665 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: dreams will be. Like it's almost like fixing a loop 666 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: in some way. Right, Yeah, there's there's a little bit 667 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: of lucid dreaming in there. But the method they use 668 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: called re dreaming allows Like in our earlier two part 669 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 1: episode on dreams, right, we looked into the idea of 670 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: the dream as your own Holi deck, right, a place 671 00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: where your mind can experiment with scenarios or sit situations 672 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: that would ordinarily be dangerous experiments. Right, and the real 673 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: world are in the waking wild. Oh my god, that's 674 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: such a pretentious phrase. But let's keep it. No, no, 675 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep it and awaking while what a year. 676 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: Uh So, this stuff, this redreaming changes the way that 677 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: people's brains process information. You are retraining your brain the 678 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: same way that you would train yourself, maybe through certain 679 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: therapeutic techniques or maybe when you're learning a new musical 680 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: instrument or a new language. And this is coupled with 681 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 1: you know, of course, waking world therapy. Uh, it would 682 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: probably candidly be more effective if it were coupled with 683 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: some hallucinogens or psychoactive substances. The science is there on that, 684 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: and that's not a controversial claim. But this overall, one 685 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: of the most important parts of this is that follow 686 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: the money and you'll you'll often find that an idea 687 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: is maybe not as crazy as it sounds at first glance. 688 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: I love the idea of being able to teach intuition. 689 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Matt. I think it would behoove 690 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: us all to take intuition classes just because that emphasis 691 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: on imagination and empathy may make you a better person. 692 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: Like empathy is the reason our species is still around. 693 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: It's not competition. Uh, Empathy is up there with reproduction 694 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: in a way, you're reproducing someone's mind in your own mind. 695 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: Those the three concepts you just threw out their competition, empathy, 696 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: and reproduction. Wow, Ben, I think this might be where 697 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: we end it. Yeah. I think we're at the edge 698 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: of the deep water here, Matt. Uh So. I'm also 699 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: getting a spidey sense that we call it a day 700 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: before go name Doc Holiday kills us because we want 701 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: to make it to one. We can't wait to meet 702 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: you there. Thank you, Viking, Thank you Andrew. Thank you 703 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: everyone who has tuned in, whether or not you are 704 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: Kim Jong whom we as always greatly appreciate your time 705 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: and we cannot wait to hear from you. Do you 706 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: have experiences with intuition? If you tried on your own 707 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: to sharpen said intuition? Do you think it's all a 708 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: bunch of hogwash and we're just subliminally picking up body 709 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: language cues or slight changes in barometric pressure, etcetera. There's 710 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: no right, there's no wrong answer. We want to hear 711 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: from you. You can find us on the internet. We've 712 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: got Facebook, we've got Twitter, we've got Instagram. We're still 713 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: working on a on a Pinterest. Right. Where are we 714 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: at with the Pinterest? Guys? I'm not sure about the Pinterest. 715 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, we'll look into that, I guess. Further, 716 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: I seem to remember something about nightmares a second life Pinterest. 717 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't put it together right now, but 718 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out later. Um. And outside of you know, 719 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: our soon to be Pinterest, we recommend you head on 720 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: over to Here's where it gets crazy, the Facebook group 721 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: that we've got going for listeners for this whole community. 722 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: Check it out. You will be able to have discussions 723 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: post stuff that you want. All you have to do 724 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: to get in is name somebody who hosts the show 725 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: or makes the show. Just one or two or three 726 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: or however many bonus points. If you get all five 727 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: plus Seth plus Alex. Uh. Yeah, if you get all 728 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: of the producers who've ever involved, Yeah, maya man or 729 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: just make us laugh, just give us to know. Do 730 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: that too. UM. If you don't want to do that stuff, 731 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: if you're like man, I still want to get in contact, 732 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 1: but I don't want to use any of those means, 733 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: why don't you give us a call. Our number is 734 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: one eight three three st d w y t K. 735 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: I Ben almost said it with me and maybe you 736 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: did too. It's hard not to. Um, you don't have 737 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: to say it once you call what you call it, 738 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: just leave the message. 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And if 749 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: none of that quite tingles your spidy sense, and you 750 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: have a story that you want to share, whether in 751 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: confidence or whether you want it on the air, we 752 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: want to hear from you. Don't worry about the social media, 753 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: don't worry about the reviews or the phone number. You 754 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: can always send us a good old fashioned email where 755 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: we are honders at this is important podcast dot com. 756 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I meant conspiracy at I heart radio dot com. 757 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: Stuff they don't want you to know is a production 758 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: of I heart Radio. 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