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Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Salli and Chris

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Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and

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Speaker 1: entertainment in its train Now here's Chris Johnson. You're not

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Speaker 1: till then. kJ Live. Today's guest on the show. There's

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Speaker 1: a world renowned basketball still specialist that works from the

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Speaker 1: highest levels of the game. He is a former player,

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Speaker 1: he's coached the game, and he is regarded as just

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Speaker 1: absolutely one of the finest trainers there is. Let's welcome

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Speaker 1: in Olan Simplest to the show. Big Olan, what's up, man?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? Appreciate you having me, Man, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate I appreciate you taking the time out of your

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Speaker 1: busy schedule. Bro, I know this is We've been trying

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Speaker 1: to get this done for over a year or about

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Speaker 1: a year since I jumped into this, man. So finally,

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Speaker 1: finally I got the man, the myth, the legend on

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Speaker 1: right now. I know, I finally got the invite. No, Man,

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Speaker 1: that's what I ain't try that. I didn't try that, Brad,

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Speaker 1: I didn't try that. But hey, hey, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: you're here now and listen for sure. Listen, man, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a hot time of the year n C

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Speaker 1: double A March madness. Man, I just kind of wanted

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Speaker 1: to jump into it. Man, Jules Bernard over to u

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Speaker 1: C l A. As a player that you worked with.

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Speaker 1: He has been outstanding, out ending during the tournament and

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Speaker 1: sort of sort of the last part, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: you to talk about Jules development where he you know,

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Speaker 1: when you first started working with him, to where he

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Speaker 1: is now. Um, I mean, Jules has always been a

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Speaker 1: dynamic player, you know, but when you get to college,

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Speaker 1: things change and sometimes you gotta play a role, you know,

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Speaker 1: because in high school he was do it all and

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Speaker 1: then after a couple of years, you now have to

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Speaker 1: conform and try to be a star in your role.

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Speaker 1: And basically I told him, man, you know, our goal

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Speaker 1: honestly is to be the best player we can in

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Speaker 1: the position he's at right now with u C l A.

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Speaker 1: But also put him in the best position to when

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Speaker 1: his opportunity come next level, Um, he can maximize it.

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Speaker 1: So you know, some guys, some guys get drafted to

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Speaker 1: in that top ten area to do everything. Some guys

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Speaker 1: plug and play, Like right now, Jews, you can plug

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Speaker 1: and play him anyway. You can catch your shoot he

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Speaker 1: can run the point guard if you need, can guard

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Speaker 1: multiple position. So basically we scale back. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you get guys, guys in that arena where you know

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Speaker 1: they were caught upon to do a lot when they

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Speaker 1: were younger, sometimes it's hard to have that conversation and like,

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Speaker 1: look right now, let's focus on your shooting. Let's focus

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Speaker 1: on being the best perimeter shooter we can be. And

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Speaker 1: then one of three dribbles simplified less as more than

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Speaker 1: obviously be a terror on defense UM and then just

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Speaker 1: evolved from there. So in the past couple years, we've

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Speaker 1: just spent a lot of time refining his shot, you know,

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Speaker 1: and shooting a lot of shots that he takes in

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Speaker 1: the game, but then also the shots that he'll get

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Speaker 1: eventually at the next level when his time come. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of corner threes, short drifts, you know, just

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Speaker 1: playing off learning how to play off stars. You know,

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Speaker 1: because Jusan is the guy and Hokas is a guy

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Speaker 1: that you know, the offense is pretty predicated for UM

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Speaker 1: and just you know, fit a role because that what

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Speaker 1: he's doing translate next level. I personally feel UM and

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Speaker 1: so I saw man simplifies game and less it's more

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Speaker 1: and and be a star in that role. You know

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys getting paid um to be stars,

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Speaker 1: you know in their role Josh hard types, Norman power

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Speaker 1: types that can do a little bit better everything, tough

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Speaker 1: you evolve your role. But that's who I envisioned him

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Speaker 1: then just evolved from there somebody else you you work

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Speaker 1: with on the NBA level, Spencer did what did with he? Uh?

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Speaker 1: He's been playing well after the trade of Dallas, Um

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Speaker 1: Spencer man and just his evolution and why how did

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Speaker 1: it's it's something he's been doing his entire life. And

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Speaker 1: it started there. Then he was always doubted, even at

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Speaker 1: taff You know, eventually cracked the taff Is junior year.

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Speaker 1: But I remember a sophomore year, um, uh, Mark Jacksonson

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Speaker 1: checked in. I always forget this kid's name, another guard

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Speaker 1: from Loyola. You know, there's recruiting over him, but he

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Speaker 1: the Pumps. They want Super sixty four. So he's always

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Speaker 1: certain chip on his shoulder, and even now you know

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Speaker 1: it's there, but he that's just something that's that's happened

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Speaker 1: from early. You know, that was that was instilled in

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Speaker 1: And that was before social media was what it is now.

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Speaker 1: So guys knew I trained Spencer. They just didn't know

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Speaker 1: I was respectful a lot of coaches, but let's just

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was I think he was a fifth

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Speaker 1: what happened internally, but people forget. When they started the season,

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Speaker 1: And I was early, like the first twelve games or so,

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't one thing he doesn't do well. He

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, things happened, and I

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was struggle. There was some games

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Speaker 1: But when Bradley Bill wasn't. I think he averaged eight

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Speaker 1: He but you know, just always being doubted man, and

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Speaker 1: he just carries that chip. And he's one of the

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Speaker 1: so you know, carring the chip and confidence, you know ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, you know you you always had that chip

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Speaker 1: as far as working with players and when did you

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Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old? Oh man, I wouldn't say skills.

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Speaker 1: coach got into a situation my senior year and I

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Speaker 1: I didn't do AU. I didn't know what AU was.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm a kid from Belize and my mother,

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Speaker 1: doing that. No, man, I came into the game to

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Speaker 1: make a difference, you know, like I have more joy

425
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: coaching kids and I do like a lot of people

426
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: got this twisted, you know, and I've and I know

427
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: in l A there's a lot of backbiting and it's competitive,

428
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: and so things are stated and said, I have more

429
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: joy coaching the little kids and I do pro guys.

430
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I make more money coaching the pro guys.

431
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: But I didn't get into this game to be a

432
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: millionaire like now at forty six, Like, yeah, let me

433
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: be more business savvy and that's what you know I'm

434
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: working on. But up until now, it's let me make

435
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: an impact. So back to back to what you stated. Man.

436
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: So I was twenty one, and this is how it

437
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: all started, Like how it fools this true story, bro,

438
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 1: and you know, these names just crazy. At one is

439
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: when I got invited to play for Police national team.

440
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: So I was getting ready to go there for the summer.

441
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: So I'm working out at this part Westwood Westwood Park,

442
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: and U c l a working out. I get kicked

443
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: off the court by this a little short white guy,

444
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, we got the court. I'm heated,

445
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm a middle work out. You know,

446
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm all right. So I started stretching. I see this

447
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: little old team walking and and this is when a

448
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: you really got introduced to me. I saw this little

449
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: old team walking in and then they started warming up,

450
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: and I saw like a high school group walking, like

451
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: high school level looking guys, and they're warming up on

452
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: the other side, and I'm like, I noticed in the

453
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: same age, not even close. So I watched the first half. Man,

454
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: that a little peanut head kid killing the high school dude.

455
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: I busting their ass. Beginning, I said, I'm a stay

456
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: beginning second half, when the other kids hit him in

457
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: his mouth for the elbow, he lost his cool, was

458
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: done for the game. So I was. I was sitting

459
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: around because it brought it brought me back, you know

460
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: what I mean, walking off the bench, giving somebody power

461
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: over my mind and making that air right. So I

462
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: caught him at the water. I said, man, don't ever

463
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: let nobody take this away, bro, once this is gone,

464
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: it's a wrap. And I'm in twenty one years old

465
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Speaker 1: telling his kids. So the little white coat and hey, man,

466
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Speaker 1: know what did you say to him? I said, I

467
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: basically told him, you know, a game, a quick, my

468
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: story real quick, and then don't ever let no one

469
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: take this away because you know, once you lose this,

470
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: it's over. So it happened to be John Fisher, who

471
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: runs um who masters, and the little kid was getting

472
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: through it on this team. On his team was Trevor Reason.

473
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Trevor wasn't as nice as gave at the time, so

474
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: John asked me, man, like, yo, I know your story, man,

475
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: you'd be great. Like man, your game was really good.

476
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: If you ever have any time, man, I love for

477
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: you to come down to the gym talk to these kids,

478
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: even you know do so. I mean, I said, now

479
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: for sure, any time. I love too. That was the

480
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: start because that's something I wanted to do. He said,

481
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: what you're doing to night? I said, uh, I'm pretty

482
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: much done for to day. Man. You know I got

483
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: a kid. I'm gonna go home special the top of

484
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: my son. He was like, man, if you got time, man,

485
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: I got this work out of uni high school, I said, bro,

486
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: I stayed right down the street. I'm there, what's time.

487
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: So that turned into something I did in the summer

488
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: for a couple of years when I came home from college.

489
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Speaker 1: And when I came on from college, he braasically gave

490
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: me that team. You know, that summer he gave me

491
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Speaker 1: that team. So I had Trevor, gave a couple other

492
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: kids man, and I was coaching a little hoop Master

493
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: team kicking people. But so that was the introduction to

494
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: a you and training. So then when I was done

495
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: with college, I came back work for John a little bit,

496
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: but I was still training Trevor and Gabe through high

497
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Speaker 1: school and when they got to college. And so those

498
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: are my first two pros. But I started with them

499
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: at what they were like fifth sixth grade. Um, yeah,

500
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: And you know then I finished finished up school and

501
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: came back home and you know, I, you know, I

502
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: was still around. But you know, whence guys go to

503
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: college back then, and Gabe got Boston, Uh, Trevor was

504
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: New York, got drafted by New York, you lose contact.

505
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I was young and I couldn't really

506
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: move anyway. So it was my goal was never training

507
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: pros because I wasn't available to be there like how

508
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: I am now, So I just developed guys. Man. Then

509
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: I started the clinic at Pali as funny, coach Polino

510
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: reached out to me and said, man, I see your training. Man,

511
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: I could give you gym time on the weekends in return,

512
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: would you help me with my program? So I started

513
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: coaching at Pali, you know, and build this clinic and Palisades,

514
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: and man, I had everybody driving up that pcation come

515
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: get it, you know, and it's and you evolved and

516
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: be evolved even more and more people started being possessive.

517
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: So at one point, man, I had all the kids

518
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: compter Magic call Supreme Pumps, this that. Then I started

519
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: a little team b FT and we were doing well

520
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: and we out there beating some of these teams. These

521
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: kids no longer came because you know, the guys are

522
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: worried that I may recruit their players or what have you.

523
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: But now man started with hoop Masters, and I started

524
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: doing clinics in Palisades and not Man, man, I have

525
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was on YouTube the other day and

526
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: and I had the gym seventy eight kids every weekend,

527
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: you know, and it was it was nuts. It was

528
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: a great clinic. It was a great clinic. Let me

529
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: ask you this. Let me ask you this. You have

530
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: an obvious passion for coaching. How why didn't the journey

531
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: take you down the coaching you know, the coaching path.

532
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it uh, It's something

533
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: that I still pondered till this day. You know. It's

534
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 1: like I looked back on I think the one mistake

535
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: I made. No one's gonna love our kids like we do.

536
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: And when my son got to high school, I said

537
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: I was done. I want to be a dad and

538
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: I want to sit on the sideline. He had a

539
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: good high school career. You know, some injuries is but

540
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: he had some moments where he was getting highly recruited

541
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: and you know, Frank and Joel and them dubbed him

542
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: as one of the top guards in his class. But

543
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: he had injury. So it was working. But some of

544
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: these injuries he got probably wouldn't have happened becau. There's

545
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: no how to have my son going sixteen guys and

546
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: six nine guys and he's junior year. He was stuck

547
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: going a lot of bigs and that's when he had

548
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: to show the stuff. But back to the coach, and

549
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: it's like, Man, I was nervous. I wanted to be

550
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: a dad. When I looked back on it, Man, all

551
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: them kids I was training, and when I was coaching

552
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: my my situation, my BFT teams. Man, I was smashing guys,

553
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, because we preach accountability. You and I don't

554
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: care who you are men, We're defending baseline, the baseline.

555
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: I got a video on on YouTube that Marty Wilson uploaded.

556
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about. Man. I had this little old

557
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: team with my son and a couple of young guys,

558
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: and he took one of my bigs from me, Ryan

559
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Silver at the time, took this kid named Chauncey Hill

560
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: that I I evolved and by the time it's a

561
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: ninth grade, was a top twenty kid in the country.

562
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: Then he digressed. But we smack pumps about thirty with

563
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: some no name kids because they're like yo. But the

564
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: kids all got named Arafa because I didn't have kids

565
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: do all these camps in middle school, so nobody really

566
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: knew of them. But when they got to high school,

567
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: they all wherever they went, they cooked and then they

568
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: got their stuff. But now Mantil this day, I'm still

569
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: thinking about it. It's something I want to do. I

570
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: was telling my wife, like, I really want to coach

571
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: one day. So I'm back helping Steve Smith at Oakwood.

572
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm his assistant. Um. But to to like fully answer

573
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: the question, I didn't have time to be a full

574
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: time head to each other, you know, as a full

575
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: time dad. So I built my business where I really

576
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: didn't work that much. Monday through Friday. Who had a

577
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: clinic on Saturday, Sundays and Monday night. So I worked

578
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: six to eight hours a week may of living and

579
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: I just emails and stuff like that. But and then

580
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: I was Palino's assistant. But if I didn't show up,

581
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: I didn't show up. You know, if if you the

582
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: head coach, you don't show up, like you know, it

583
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: don't work. So you know, Khalil was Khalil was the

584
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: main reason. But I still kind of want to jump

585
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: in it. Man, it's it's it's something that's fine to

586
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: tell him if it's it's itching, Like you know, I

587
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: helped I helped out Oakwood this year and Steve Smith

588
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: does a great job. And you know, um, I'm now

589
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm back in the game because my stepson is starting

590
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: to like basketball. So I'm going to sit around whatch

591
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: she's a little eight year old kids playing like you know.

592
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: It may be my retirement plan, you know, where I'm

593
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: just training in the summers, not doing it and just coaching.

594
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: But it's something I definitely want to do because I

595
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: think I'm a better coach than I am a train Yeah.

596
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Now coaching on the girl's side of the boys said,

597
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: I know you're very passionate about the girls game. You

598
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: recently called the Open you called the Open Division Championship.

599
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: You work obviously with a lot of w NBA players,

600
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: and you have you have a girl's women's basketball wing

601
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: to the oldan simplest you know vehicle, uh called Girls Rock.

602
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Just just talk about that, your passion for women's basketball. Man.

603
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Look here, man, I I actually have more joy training

604
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: women that I do. Man, bro. You know, I think

605
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with our kids

606
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: are being told how great they are ten eleven to

607
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: a thirteen, you know, with the old Twitter universe, these

608
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: EBC camps and so when they can be big, athletic,

609
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: all the above, but it's still ten eleven to thirteen

610
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: fourteen in the mind. Man, when they turn a few

611
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: things says, you can't tell these kids ship, and so

612
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't deal with it. I don't need how school

613
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: superstars in l A. I don't get a lot of

614
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: top kids anymore because I don't need it. I mean,

615
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't need you for a resume builder. You know,

616
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: not to sound arrogant, but I want the kid that's

617
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: gonna work hard in respect. You know the value that

618
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: I bring, You know what. I so give me the

619
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: kid that's terrible. What's gonna respect my time? And I

620
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: ain't gotta deal with women don't have that, so they're hungry,

621
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: even at the w NBA level. Man, I had Super

622
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Dina Tarassi, Scotlett Diggins and Necker for a little mini

623
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: camp last summer. Bro I put them on the bands.

624
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: I can't put my NBA NBA guys on the bandom

625
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: a that that's just during my that's just for a

626
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: pre draft. Now when you say now, when you say

627
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: the bands, describe what you need by to put them

628
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: on the bands? You mean, man, you know I got

629
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: this thing I've been doing for years. Man, while I

630
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: strapped a band around one person and then around the

631
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: other player and they speed dribbling and doing different stuff

632
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: type that type of resistance. And you know cardio A one,

633
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: power A one, playing through contact a one. You go

634
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: up and down sixt eight times, felt like you did

635
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: ten seventeen. So I'm not a big seventeen guy. I'm

636
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: not a big line droow guy. If we do the bands,

637
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: because basketball is high impact enough, you can get your

638
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: conditioning other ways with less work, you know what, less

639
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: wins here. So the bands and something I've been doing

640
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: for years, like man, if you go up and down

641
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: the court, we do a set of a set is

642
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: two up and back full, we do three and four stats.

643
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: You did six eight full court. We don't need to

644
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: do no more. But it's killing like people. Hey, you

645
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: know it's it's the thing that same guys in the bucket,

646
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, curl up around the toilet in the bathroom,

647
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: letting go su bird full problem. Bro, She's year nineteen eighteen,

648
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: first ballot, Hall of Famer, no complaints, so you know,

649
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: so bring it back to college high school. These girls

650
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: aren't being told at ten eleven to our thirteen fourteen

651
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: because they don't have that. They don't have these exposure camp.

652
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: So they're still level headed. You know, they're still hungry,

653
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: they's still passionate. Don't get me wrong. We can still

654
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: get some guys in the in the basketball universes like that.

655
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: But you know, telling these kids how great they are

656
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: early does more harm than good to me. So the

657
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: women don't have that. So like women, man, I don't care.

658
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: I've never had an issue with a girl in a workout.

659
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm constantly having to talk to guys. I'm you're more

660
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: of a psychologist than you are training at this point.

661
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I got into that. Part of

662
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: the reason. I got into it because I needed one.

663
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: But damn, I shouldn't be motivating eighty percent at the times.

664
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: It should be the other way eight twenty like eighty

665
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: percent times you locked in and I'm sure you have

666
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: a couple of bad days in there, and I gotta

667
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: push you. Let's get to the work. But the women, bro,

668
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: they run through a wall like no questions asked, you

669
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: know so, and then you know they don't get the

670
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: they don't get the the same visibility they're starting to write,

671
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: don't get the same resources, they don't get the same page.

672
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: They don't and w n BA to me, is the

673
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: most elitely in the world. There's only twelve teams. You know,

674
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of spaces, like it's the elite

675
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: of the elite. You know, you'll have I was telling

676
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: us just I did a girl's camp not too long ago,

677
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: and I was trying to tell these young ladies what

678
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: they're up against. Not saying they can't be done, but understand,

679
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: your sport is the most elite. You have first round

680
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: pick they don't even make it through training camp because

681
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: it's just gonna spot. They're drafting lottery picks just to

682
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: do camp and then they get released. That don't happen

683
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: in the NBA. You know, NBA, you first round pick

684
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: a lottery you gotta you'll have first round picks not

685
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: make it through training camp. It's there's no space, you know.

686
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the top of the top of the top,

687
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, man, it's you know, and I'm

688
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: glad they started to get their level. That's why I

689
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: started Girls Rock bro. It wasn't like it wasn't like

690
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: I didn't train girls before, but I didn't want girls

691
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: to feel like I gotta go do a guy thing

692
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: to work out with Olan because I don't look at

693
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: girls as girls. I look at this basketball players. So

694
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: come work out with my dude, Like, come work out

695
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting through me with the guys. That's how me

696
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: and Tina grew up. Tina as a childhood friend. Work

697
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: out with guys, so I said, when we started girls,

698
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: Rod just an all girls things. So they don't, you know,

699
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: just so in order to get to Olan, you don't

700
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: feel you have to go work out with guys, like

701
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: he actually has a girls thing. And so they come.

702
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: It's one day a week. I do this, but then

703
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: they still do my workout during the week with my

704
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: guys because I want, you know, you know, I want

705
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, I want to make these girls feel special

706
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: and and and it's starting to get that way. But

707
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of work to do. Bro, there's

708
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot of work. So quick, quick story, and I

709
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: mean I got a lot of stories. Bro. You know

710
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: when Kobe plane went down, helicopter went down. You know,

711
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm a Kobe guy, Like we have these Kobe thing.

712
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm a I've never met Code and my twenty years

713
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: doing this, five never met him because you know, we

714
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: in l A I meet him one day. I meet

715
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: him one day. So Estevan Johnson, my barbera, Kobe's barbera

716
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: for sixteen years. Kobe like my basketball product, the D Slide,

717
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: But not just that, that's Avon Tolder. Man, this dude's

718
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: heavy and girls game. He set up a meeting. So

719
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I was finally going to meet him. But I'm on

720
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: my way to meet him at the tournament and I

721
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: was gonna get down and you know, ship, He's making

722
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: a push on the girl's side. I'm like, yo, this

723
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: excites me. And obviously a part of it too, he

724
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: know he wanted to. He already had two of my

725
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: D Slide from Mestevan, But it ain't it was It

726
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: wasn't even my product that I was excited about because

727
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I know Cod put the stamp on it. You know,

728
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you're talking to a different olding right now, with different

729
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: zeros behind his name. It was getting involved more on

730
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: a higher scale with him with the girls game. Man.

731
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: I got a phone call that that helicopter came down.

732
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Obviously Cobe going was killed. Me and my family like

733
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: my my my new born is named after him, Kingston Kobe.

734
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: But man, just trying to get involved in that girl's

735
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: game with him, because I know him putting that stamp

736
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: on it to get behind it was gonna help it.

737
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, that's a quick, little, my little quick

738
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Kobe's story in the girls game, like I was about

739
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: to join joining up with them and you know, get

740
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: down on that girl's thing. And yeah, man, but and

741
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: that's one of the things. But that's one of the things. Man,

742
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: is so beautiful to see on the on the on

743
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: the guy on the quote unquote boys side is guys

744
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: like Kobe, guys like yourself, all these girl dads that

745
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: have really taken well. Kobe was taking it upon himself

746
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: to really elevate the platform of women's basketball being kind

747
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: of that guy that's out there, and you're taking it

748
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: upon yourself to elevate the game, mentoring working and being accessible.

749
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: I love when you said that that you know, you

750
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: wanted to make young women feel like that that owner

751
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: is accessible to Like you don't have to do that thing.

752
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,680
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756
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: you this thing on the lines of talking about Kobe. Um,

757
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: just it's for are is his standing in basketball history?

758
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, you hear a lot of people say their

759
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: goats you whether it be Mike or whoever, Bill Russell

760
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: or Lebron or whoever else it is. I just wanted

761
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: to get, you know, from a Kobe guy. I want

762
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: to I wanted to have this conversation. Where do you

763
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: think he stands all time as far as the greatest

764
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: to ever play the game? On who's one A and

765
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: who's one beat? I mean, you can't flip him in Mike.

766
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: Him and Mike are are are the standards? To me?

767
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: And now why now? Why? Now? Why Kobe? Why Kobe standard?

768
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, I mean the thing that he did when

769
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: you look back on on how strong the West was,

770
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: and obviously you know he had Shocked for some years

771
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: and Shock was as phenomenal as he was. Um, but

772
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: Kobe would pushed through the West and then when we

773
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: got to the East, it wasn't as strong. Let's get

774
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: Shock and really feature Shock and Shock dominated Rick Smith's

775
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: to Kamba Motombo um guys like Dad and got the

776
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: m v P. But his his level of dedication, his commitment,

777
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: his work ethic, his skill set is by far one

778
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: of the best. Like, I don't think people really appreciate,

779
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, the skill set. I like his leadership. I'm

780
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: a Kobe Mike type of leadership. Guys, you know where

781
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: they hold you accountable, they bite your head off, but

782
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: they also uplift you. Um, if you look at that

783
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: not let's let's get past the shot team. If you

784
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: look at that team with Pau Gasol, he was only

785
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: a one time Allstar before he got to l A.

786
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: He was a good player, but he wasn't deepol Goo

787
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: saw that we know now everyone know Code was hard

788
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: on him. He when they lost to Boston, he challenged Pyle,

789
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: came back the next year, was physically stronger, more confident.

790
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: Lamar resurrected under Kobe Um. You have guys like Sasha

791
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: Um that he played with, so people discredit his leadership.

792
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: When I look back at it, everyone that played next

793
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: to him got better. He may not have averaged eight

794
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: nine ten assists, but there's other ways to get you better,

795
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I mean, I mean,

796
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: we could talk about COVID, but I think his skill

797
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: set didn't get better. Dog Well, Chris men was never

798
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: really good. Uh, Smush didn't get better, dog mus What

799
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: do you mean Smush got better? Smoke who was Smush

800
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: before he got to like us? Is a nice? It

801
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: was a decent NBA basketball player, Bro, I don't know

802
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: why everybody acts like Smush Parker was just some trash

803
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: like trash. He wasn't trash. But after he left l

804
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: A and before l A, what was he? He had

805
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: a good run in l A. His best run wasn't

806
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: His best run was in l A. So how you

807
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: didn't get better? His best basketball was in l A.

808
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. I'll give you that. One of

809
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Kobe's most like underrated skill sets was his leadership. It

810
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: was he led with like, you know, an iron fist,

811
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: kind of like Mike. He get on you. But that's

812
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: how we grew up. I mean today's today's kids, Bro,

813
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: here's a crazy part. You know what I'm saying, and

814
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: this is raising kids to You want me to patch

815
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: you on the butt because you got all a's, you're

816
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: supposed to try to get all a's. You want me

817
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: to patch you on your butt because you did your choice.

818
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: You're supposed to do the extra, dude. You know, like

819
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: kids won't pad on the butt for stuff they're supposed

820
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: to do. Man, I played hard, you're supposed to you know,

821
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: give me the unrequired work, give me the under then

822
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna patch you on your ass. Then I'm an

823
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get your allowance will bump up

824
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: or you'll get that like today's kids. So it's like

825
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: that's today's generation man, Like you can you hold a

826
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: kid accountable? Man? That the transfer portal is ridiculous? You

827
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: know I'm not saying. So how do you? How do you?

828
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: How do you coach your kid? How do you coach

829
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: your kid today? How what's what's a strategy to effectively

830
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: communicate and get through to a kid? And from this generation,

831
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: you gotta be online. You gotta be all in your group,

832
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: chat with him all the time, sending any means bro,

833
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: bro bro. I honestly think it starts with respect. It's

834
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: it's we all human nature. We gravitate towards love. I

835
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: don't care what no one's say. And when someone knows

836
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: there's a genuine love there, you can you know what

837
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you can really coach them hard, Like, for example,

838
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: let's use your stepfather syndrome. Like I'm my son's like

839
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: like like my my, my wife, kids, stepdad. When he

840
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: first came into my life, Man, I wasn't just stopping

841
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: on his neck this and that, not that I do that.

842
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Now I had to show my kid for him. So

843
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: now when I say, yo, don't talk to your mom

844
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: like that, don't like and I and I hold certain

845
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: boundaries in certain they listen. Man, well I'm coaching him

846
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: and and they're now performing. And I'm not talking about execution, Like,

847
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: it's not about execution. It's not about made shots, it's

848
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: not about assist. To me, it's about effort. You're giving

849
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: maximum effort and everything you do. You know, I fell

850
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: in love back to Kobe. I fell in love to

851
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: Cope when he went over for three. Like here's a

852
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid in the biggest game, missed once

853
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: ms ty, still confident to take it, and then got

854
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: in the gym on something you know, like are you

855
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: going to give maximum effort all the time? And I

856
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: hold you accountable and not let them know. Man, this

857
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: ain't for me. Whether you show up to my gym

858
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: or not. I go home to my wife and kids

859
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: every night, whether you score thirty or not. I go

860
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: up to my wife and kids every night. Whether you

861
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: pay for my training, there's another one coming through the door. Man,

862
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm on you, and I'm i'm I'm holding you accountable

863
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: because I want what's best for you. You know what

864
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean. Like if if your high school team win,

865
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't get a ring. I'm not the high school coach.

866
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: If you're a U team win, I don't get a

867
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: new shoe deal. You know what I'm saying. So it's

868
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: like I constantly say that to them, like, bro, I'm

869
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: in your circle, not to be your friend, I mean

870
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: your circle so you can get that scholarship. Then my

871
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: produce to get to the second or third contract like

872
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: you okay with the rookie contract. So I'm in a

873
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: quiet taste, don't get me wrong in today's generation. But

874
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: that's why most of my guys turned in the family

875
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: because you look at two of my players and even

876
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: you know one of the agents I they were were

877
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: in my wedding like they were my Like this turns

878
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: into a family ship. I don't start this to be

879
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: anyone's friend, though, and then once they get that and

880
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be in your circle, you know,

881
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Like it started young bro like and I don't. I

882
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know if Trevor remember this. Um. When Trevor got

883
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: drafted by New York, he asked me to come out there.

884
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: I told him, no, bro, I'm not gonna live off you. Bro.

885
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: When you're in the late let's get it, you know

886
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: what I mean? I remember I'm paraphrasing. And then like

887
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: two years later, I see Lolita at the mall. She

888
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: got in my ask you left my son hanging who?

889
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I said, huh, what are you? You know? And then

890
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: we've mended it since, but there was a gap we

891
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: can talk. I think they took that like I didn't

892
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: want to rock with him. I was like, and I

893
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: was young, you know, so I could have probably said

894
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: it maybe a different energy because I was fucking twenty six.

895
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't remember how much old I am to Trevor.

896
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: But I was a young dude raising young dudes. UM,

897
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: So I told him not. But I didn't want to

898
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: be in his I don't want to be I don't

899
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: want to be a hang on. I want to earn

900
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: my stripe, so when you're in l A. But at

901
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: the same time, I couldn't leave by it because I

902
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: had a kid. But that wasn't the energy. But I'm

903
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: not here to live off you, and I'm not I'm

904
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: not here to be in your circle. I'm here to

905
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: make sure you fucking change the zeros behind your name

906
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: and your family. So I think they get that, and

907
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: so I can coach a certain way. I can talk

908
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: a certain way. You know a lot of dudes, Today's Brodie, Brodie, Brody, Yo,

909
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: what's up? Brody? And bro I'm a grown ass man.

910
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it a dude, Brodi twenty times

911
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: in a conversation. You know so well, hard man, I

912
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: train hard. I'm not the same as I used to be,

913
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, because I understand. I just can't iron fish

914
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: all the time. I compliment a little bit more than

915
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: I did when I was young. But even Spencer, he'll

916
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: come to my workouts, you know, because I work him out,

917
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: and you know, we have our sessions. Like if he

918
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: comes earlier, it's like, damn, you ain't the same when

919
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I was a kid, you know, like, and it involved

920
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: you a little bit. Well, the society has changed, the

921
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: society's tolerance has changed for certain types of coaching, right

922
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: because we see so many episodes of what what can

923
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: be deemed what can be deemed, as you know, abusive coaching.

924
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: And now you know nowadays you get in trouble for

925
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: the slightest thing. Here's my thing, here's my observation. I

926
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: think that you still resonate with this generation because you've

927
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: built up a considerable amount of trust that anybody that

928
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: works with you, anybody that stuff footing is them stuffs

929
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: footing at an old Simples clinic camp situation, understands that

930
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: they're there to get better, and that's all that you

931
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: care about. And so you just you literally you get

932
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: so deep into the weeds of of getting better that

933
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: you know you have you pay attention to so many details.

934
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: I observed you and as as somebody that you know,

935
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: my son was working with you, and as a parent

936
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: that's watching this, you just feel good about, you know,

937
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: spending your money with a guy like you, or just

938
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: you know, getting that stamp of approval by by old

939
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: now man, I I mean you you hit it on

940
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: the nose. Man. I think I I still resonate with

941
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: the young guys. And you said you started to say something.

942
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to attack, but I want to finish your thoughts.

943
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: I never coached where I'm gonna get in trouble even today,

944
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, like Bill Knight can't coach today, I can

945
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: coach into that generation. I'm at a private school. I

946
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: hold these kids accountable, and private schools is the first

947
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: one to let you go. There's ways to verbalize and

948
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: be firm without being derogatory, you know what I'm saying, Like,

949
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Like there's a couple of coaches

950
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: doing well, not in Nancy had it. I don't really

951
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: rock with because of how they talk to these players. Um,

952
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say names because you know, I

953
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: got relationships that needs to stay intact, you know, for

954
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: you know people that I'm tired too. But bro, like

955
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna call a kid out his name, never

956
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: go do you know what I'm saying, Like, no, you

957
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: know I can coach today. I'm just not going to

958
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: let you accept mediocrity. And people are okay with mediocrity

959
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Like no, no mediocrity, don't get don't pay the bills,

960
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: you know, Like the world is highly competitive and basketball,

961
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: like I said, was my father not for basketball for life?

962
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: You know like, bro, like if I lose a job,

963
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: job ain't gonna come knock on my door. I gotta

964
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: go get it. So if I if I lose a game,

965
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: I can't. Okay, No, I gotta knuckle up, buckle up,

966
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: and work harder next time. If I feel you know

967
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's teaching life lessons. Bro, I'm doing

968
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: you a disservice if I if I don't do it,

969
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: and if I lose money, because like that's funny game

970
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: stop working with me. And he may not say this,

971
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: but I know he told me you're too hard. Okay.

972
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, look, man, Gabe was one of the most

973
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: talented guards I've ever had, you know, highly skilled, you

974
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: know um, but I probably lost him because you know

975
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: that's too hard because you gotta remember, Bro, you as

976
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: a high level you. You said, l A, I'm sure

977
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: ninety five of your relations per cent of your relationships

978
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: weren't authentic. You probably got maybe even hide in that

979
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: three or four percent of the do is you've really

980
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: been with you still with like everybody won't be in

981
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: your circle, bro, like you you Chris Johnson, Bro, you

982
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: national champs. You know, let me and not gonna tell you.

983
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: You know when you sunk up or Man, that wasn't

984
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: cool and that we want yes men in our circle. Bro,

985
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: I don't want it. Yes man, I don't want that

986
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: on My is gonna challenge me be a better person.

987
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's what this is

988
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: all about. You know, this is all about brother and

989
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: and even til this day, like you know the agency

990
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: that I did, I trained with. How I got into

991
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: that five years ago. Took a dude from Alabama, man

992
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: like it wasn't to do from Cat said, oh man,

993
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: I lay your work man. Come you know, YO, can

994
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: work this Nankee team out of can work this Adida's team.

995
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: Get on our brother. Took a due from Alabama, say yo, man,

996
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm about to become an agent. I want you to

997
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: train my players. We have someone in that position for

998
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: the entire organization. But when I get mine, you're gonna go. Well.

999
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: The year after his first year that position became available,

1000
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I interviewed the hiring me as an independent contractor. I

1001
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: mean I had to interview and do work. But they

1002
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: also knew my work because that same year he came on,

1003
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: they used St. Monica's nine to whatever and I was

1004
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: there with Spencer seven Day and the nine because Miguil

1005
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: Viegas was there. He coached because they went were the

1006
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: middle school, so he allows us the gym. So they

1007
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: saw my work. In that same summer, Spencer wasn't in

1008
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: the league. He was fighting to even make the roster.

1009
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: Brooking that summer were winn into that season run up

1010
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: for most improved players. So that following year, man the

1011
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: position became available and took a dude like, Yo, Man,

1012
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: I trust you because he's setting his brothers for our

1013
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: relationship with He set his brother out here when his

1014
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: brother is getting ready to play pro his rookie year,

1015
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: asked me how much he was. I said, they don't

1016
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: even stress. I know it's his first year. I'm just

1017
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: throwing in with my guys. Funny thing is the guys

1018
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: I thought me in with Spencer when he was in Colorado.

1019
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: One of my kids at cal eat miney, my girly money.

1020
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Stafford mcgheita was at Texas. I do him in that group.

1021
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: Your family broke fast forward, he get a job, he

1022
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: look out and obviously you know, but I bring that

1023
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: up to say me and him, man, every week we

1024
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: had each other's throats in a good way. You know,

1025
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: we still hold each other accountable, like what we can

1026
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: do better what we can what you know we added

1027
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: I want dudes that that and even if forty six

1028
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: and for it, man, Like, I'm still trying to get better.

1029
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to be a better person. I'm trying

1030
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: to be a better husband. I'm trying to be a

1031
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: better father. Man, I'm just trying to be a better coat.

1032
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a better I'm not stuck on man.

1033
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: I had three of the top successful draft class in

1034
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: the last three years, if not the best I have

1035
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: NBA guys right now, Like no, like, how can we

1036
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: get better? Like you know? And but like I said it,

1037
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: it's it rubs dudes the wrong way. I know it.

1038
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: Do I lose clients because of it? But I go

1039
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: to better night. I wouldn't. I wouldn't trip bro because

1040
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, it's very important to have

1041
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: truth tellers, people that are not yes men in your circle,

1042
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: that voice of reason, that voice that's gonna called spade

1043
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: a spade um. When you don't have that, man, you

1044
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: walk around delusional thinking you're a lot better than yard Man,

1045
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: and then ultimately you don't work as hard and you

1046
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: just get gas. But flipping a topic that I really

1047
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to kind of just just unhashed, just hash

1048
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: out with you. Lebron James. Let me ask you this,

1049
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: why do you think that Lebron James receives so much?

1050
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: For instance, he's out here in l A. He's having

1051
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: one of the best seasons, his best seasons of his career.

1052
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: His average is probably gonna lead the league and scoring,

1053
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: he's doing all these these things the Lakers down season.

1054
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: Why do you think he has the shoulder all the

1055
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: blames specifically from like l A fans, Laker fans around

1056
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: the city. Let me start my side. What about people

1057
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: think it's big Brown. It goes back to hold the

1058
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: people account the yeah, you're average and thirty this year.

1059
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: I can turn film on where you're not giving full

1060
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: effort defensive. I believe in building a culture, right Like

1061
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: with this l A team, you have three top semi

1062
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: five players, but really should have four. You should have four.

1063
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: And there's games where I wish he would have an

1064
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: iron fist because it's not about scoring thirty, it's not

1065
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: about execute, and it's not about it's the knock on

1066
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: this Laker team this year, a lot of times they

1067
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: don't play hard well. It starts with the leading. You

1068
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: will never say, oh, Michael Jordan, team didn't play hard.

1069
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: You would never say even Magic Johnson when he smiled.

1070
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: You know that you play with U C. L A.

1071
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: That Magic was mean as fun. You don't make a shot,

1072
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: you ain't getting the ball the rest of the game,

1073
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: or you may not play like not get him off

1074
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: the court like he smiled, was an asshole. But lead

1075
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: with Iron Fish Lebron, like Bird said, you want to

1076
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: have fun, play with him, like Lebron is so fucking

1077
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: great that I think he can be the greatest athlete

1078
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: player of any sport period. And it's just this one

1079
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: little thing for me, and I'm never gonna change him.

1080
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: And they were like with Kobe when Kobe was Bush

1081
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: and he got my raft, like you know, like you're

1082
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: gonna be and you're in l A. You're gonna get

1083
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: held accountable in l A. You know what I mean.

1084
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard came here after great years in Orlando. They

1085
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: fucking murdered him. You know, you don't bring it every night.

1086
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: It ain't just about scoring, man. I think it's like people,

1087
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: what is it about? What is it about? So his rebounds,

1088
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: his assists, what is it about? What is this about?

1089
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: It's maximum effort from it's maximum effort. You have not

1090
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: him Today's NBA. You got the best shoes, you got

1091
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: the best uh, you got the best training, recovery stuff.

1092
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: You don't fly. You don't fly commercial like you know,

1093
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: and then when guys not playing hard and man, we're

1094
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: taking games off. Bro, your dad played in Chucks, you

1095
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he flew commercial Like like

1096
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: the game isn't it physical? Like the recovery is easier.

1097
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: There's so much stuff today that the expectation isn't really overboard.

1098
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Like Kobi played with a finger that needed surgery the

1099
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: whole season. He shot his free thows on in Achilles,

1100
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: Like this is what all A's used to. It ain't

1101
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: just him. I brought up Dwight Howard, Steve Nash got

1102
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Steve Nash golden boy. When

1103
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: he was here. He got a little salting too that

1104
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: lets used to win. Man, ain't no excuses fucking Bed

1105
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Howling four times Final four. I just don't think I

1106
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: think I hear you, Olden, but I just don't think

1107
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: that this is really from a place of objective Okay,

1108
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Lebron's not hustling. I think this comes from a deep

1109
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: seated hate of Lebron James from Los Angeles Laker fans

1110
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: from the years that there was this perceived thing that

1111
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: it was a battle between him and Kobe. I still

1112
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: think the way people Blaker fans talk about the guy

1113
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: it's with it's with like Spike and it's with like venom.

1114
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: It's not like you treat him like you know he's

1115
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: actually the captain of your your hometown team. You're just

1116
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: treating him like he's just some guy that has done

1117
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, on a lot, on high level,

1118
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: but isn't doing what you need, what you guys want

1119
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: this year. So screw them. Like, that's what I get.

1120
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: It's in it's whack you. You can't blame Lebron, man,

1121
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, you can't blame Lebron for everything. I

1122
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: blame asked the question, I gave you my answer. And

1123
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: I know this right here is a podcasting in it

1124
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: when it within itself I brought you didn't hear that.

1125
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: I heard that. I heard that. I heard that. I

1126
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: heard it up. It's different, man, shot got destroyed in

1127
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: l A to Westbrook, average of nineteen and yeah, not

1128
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: shoot while you're not doing this. He not home grown

1129
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: l A. Dude can't bring his family to the game.

1130
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: So you're saying that did he for Lebron? No, I'm

1131
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: giving you a whole bunch of different situations. Since I

1132
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: l A is about winning, that's it, you know what

1133
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I don't have an issue if Lebron wins.

1134
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: He went, like win the championship. Bro, I'm a basketball guy.

1135
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a team guy. I'm a I'm a bout

1136
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: Like I watched Batman, like I want to say dog.

1137
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you this because you know people think

1138
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: it's take. I wanted to say, dude, that's the best

1139
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: player I've ever seen in my entire life. Like with

1140
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: shot Man, I wanted to say, that's the best for

1141
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: ever seeing my entire life. You had come to camp

1142
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: out of shade, like he wouldn't give it all the time,

1143
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Like you could have been the best player. And I

1144
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: think it comes from my personal background, like I didn't

1145
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to keep going. You know, I had

1146
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: a kid earlier, I did some dumb things. Basketball was

1147
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: so much embedded in me that like I'm fucking uh passionate, obsessive,

1148
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: like when I see certain things like yeah, man, like

1149
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: come on, you know what I'm saying, And then people

1150
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: think it's hey because you have a criticism or a comment.

1151
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: It's not a hey, bro. We didn't grow up saying

1152
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: it was hey. Man. If if if one of your

1153
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: dudes was bullshit and crisshaw Chris, come on, man, I

1154
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: know young Chris. Bro Like, I know young christ you

1155
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: probably yeah, you probably like so why is it that

1156
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: the same guys don't have the same like, come on, Brian,

1157
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: you should have come on man like you under the rim?

1158
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, like reverse that ship finished games? Get this stub.

1159
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: He made the right play. He made the right play.

1160
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: You see this is and you know what I call

1161
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: lebron guys. You know the guys that are toty Lebron,

1162
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: You guys are Trump supporters because Trump can do no wrong.

1163
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: People say he made the right player. Carmelo is open dog.

1164
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: If a dude has to pump fake take a dribble

1165
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: in side step, how is that open when you're six

1166
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: eight at the rim under the basket? Easy reverse, that's

1167
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: an easier shot. He was like, man, he made the

1168
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: right play. He was open. If a dude has to pump,

1169
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: fake side step, how is he open? That's that's my

1170
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: that's but you gotta you gotta blame style of play too.

1171
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: And emphasis is like everybody's trying to get it three.

1172
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: All you needed was a two to win. It doesn't matter.

1173
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: You're still trying to get it three. You see what

1174
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This says the thing. So when I go

1175
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: against it, I'm not going against the I didn't say it.

1176
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: Rod Strickland said it. Yeah. Rod even said he should

1177
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: have shot that damn ball. But it's Rod Hayden. No,

1178
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: people say it's Hayden. When someone has a comment, a

1179
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: real comment, a person Chris Johnson, it's gonna say, man,

1180
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: he made the right play. No, this dude wasn't open

1181
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: like people say he made it to the open guy.

1182
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm speaking to people that played basketball. If a guy

1183
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: has to faith and take a sidestep, how the funk

1184
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: is he open? When I said Lebron guys are like

1185
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: Trump guys. Trump is grabbing private all right, said hold on,

1186
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: He's trying to the wall to Mexico and then people

1187
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: still vote for him and they're still supporting Bro. He's

1188
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 1: trying to keep you out. He still women still vote

1189
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: for him. Yet he's you know what I mean, like

1190
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: it's on camera. It's that. Let me ask something. One

1191
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: of the greatest players ever playing, and you never said

1192
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: I'd say it. One of the greatest players to ever play,

1193
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: arguably one of the most like his off court like stuff,

1194
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, take care of his body and all that

1195
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: is unprecedented, like respect, all that about it. I just

1196
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: be wanting to say, Man, this dude is the best

1197
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: player to ever played, Like I want to say it.

1198
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: I want the certain things when he getting in, he's

1199
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: under the basket, like still year nineteen. That's what we're doing. Man,

1200
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: go go jump over these nickers and dunking like you're

1201
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: doing the third quarter like you know, play like that's all.

1202
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: Like I want to say, it's not Coope versus bron

1203
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: because here's here's I grew up in Magic. Magic was

1204
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: my favorite player, but I was still Man, I hate Mike,

1205
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: but Mike is Micaus. Mike. Mike is the best. I

1206
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: haven't argued to say Magic is the best twelve eleven

1207
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: years because that twelve year he had aids eleven the

1208
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: years dude was in the championship times, and there's no

1209
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: doubt Magic. There's no doubt Magic has a major argument.

1210
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: Major argument Puss is the way he played the game

1211
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: at that's at his height, like unbelievable. People realize how

1212
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: great that dude is when I say that, like clutch

1213
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: and his clutch. Gene was next. Remember the hooks, Remember

1214
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: Magic just pulling hooks out his ass, just like in

1215
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: championship games. At the first time I saw him shooting

1216
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: hook who was in the finals and Ship? I was like,

1217
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. But but oh, who do you like today?

1218
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: That's gonna carry kind of the torch from Lebron. That's gonna,

1219
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, keep the legacy of greatness going in the NBA. Luca,

1220
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: would he be somebody? Tray young Yokis like all these guys,

1221
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: Janice Steph out of those guys. Let me just narrow

1222
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: this question a little bit that I named, who do

1223
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: you think is most poised to be the next face

1224
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: of the NBA. I'm a rant John Grant and Janice

1225
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean the job play with a level of passion,

1226
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm a passion guy, Bay

1227
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: passion and grit. We're not talking skills because he's fucking

1228
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: highly skilled and his room growth is ridiculous. He just

1229
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: plays with a certain level of toughness and grit. And

1230
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: you know that. I like that. I mean, if I guess,

1231
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: that's that's my thing. That's why I love Russ. Russ

1232
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: can do no wrong in my eye, Like, okay, turnovers come, man,

1233
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, okay, Michigan, okay, But Russ is still gonna

1234
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: dive into the stands. Russ is still going. Russ is

1235
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna fight you. Russ gonna try to bite your face off.

1236
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Like that's that's I guess that's my it, because how

1237
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: I play like a six too big booguard At the Palisades,

1238
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of dudes. We had to

1239
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: play crunshaws with bugs. We had to play fair fact.

1240
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: But I say, man, you larns with does like I'm

1241
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: fighting their game, and that's I grew up. So I

1242
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: think that's my hit, bro, Like I honestly think, you know,

1243
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: an even Carmelo, like he smiled, how but Carmelo put

1244
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: you in the face. Magic smile but magic hat. Uh.

1245
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: So that's my thing, man, you know what I mean?

1246
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: And so I think John Moran, you know that his

1247
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: ceiling is so high, bro, like gian is still barely

1248
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven. You know your kids. I don't know if

1249
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: he could get any better, like even if he stays

1250
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: his way first batting Hall of Fame and this is that,

1251
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: but can he get it? Like, I think this is

1252
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: your kids, we're gonna see the rest of the time.

1253
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: I think for Luca the same thing. He gonna stay

1254
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: in the right time. I think, my guy, people, you're

1255
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: being biased. Sha ain't far off and he and okay

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Speaker 1: see hiding since the All Star Baking evers like thirty two,

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Speaker 1: eight and six and this year you know he was.

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Speaker 1: But dudes just gonna bring it every night. Lead teams,

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Speaker 1: and I think they still have a lot of growth left. Um,

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Speaker 1: but the NBA is in great hands, man. I think

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Speaker 1: yan Is still has a lot of growth here as

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Speaker 1: much as he's done. I think t Young is who

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Speaker 1: Trey Young is gonna be the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, what more can he do with

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: his size and package to to get even better? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think this is Trey Young the rest of his career,

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Speaker 1: unless you know, borring injuries. I think your kiches, this

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Speaker 1: is your kich um Man that's dominating the league and

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Speaker 1: still to me got so much growth. It's just scared.

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Speaker 1: I think something that that scared scared me or made

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Speaker 1: me kind of just think about the future of the

1272
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: league a little differently was when Carl Anthony Towns won

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: the three point contest. Uh that that was a monumental

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Speaker 1: moment for me, because that's not that's not oh real

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Speaker 1: quick back, oh Anthony Edwards in there those three guys

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Speaker 1: Man Anthony Awards is the monster I think here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think once we see like your kich embed like

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Speaker 1: where their game is at now is obviously that elite level.

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01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: I think it's like Parl Anthony Towns is going to

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Speaker 1: develop into that and it's going to trans they in

1281
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: the winning we'll see a lot more of him and

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: what they got going in Minnesota. I really, I really

1283
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: think in the future, like dope like that. But but

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01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: John Mayrant is somebody that you know. He he's like

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: a taller Iverson the way he attacks the room with

1286
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: that ferocity, that anger. The height. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: you say, man, you just don't see that effort. It's

1288
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook type stuff. And but but but Luka duncan, Man,

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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't, really, no, I can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: go wrong with Luka. Man, I'm not going wrong with Luca.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Luca. He's in year four, right, yeah, Okay,

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01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: I believe there's rooms for him. But the room for

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01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: him for me is I think getting in bed like elite,

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: elite shape and something doesn't really made a priority as yet.

1295
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he will. But if he did that,

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: like his growth is, there's another exponential jump. But what

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: he's doing right now, it's ridiculous, I think, Luca, but

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I guess what I was when you

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01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: answer the question, because because Lebron's not done, k D

1300
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: is not done. You're talking who's gonna take over the metal? Right?

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: The dudes ain't done. I'm looking at guys. It's still

1302
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: upward Trent. You know, honestly, man, what more can Trey

1303
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: Young doing that package? If he stays there this career,

1304
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: he's superstar harvly, But I don't know if there's more.

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01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, um, Luca, if he made his body of focus,

1306
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: I think, but year four he hasn't. I mean, but

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01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: Jannice is still trying to evolve that mid range and

1308
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: three ball, and you know he's it's coming. When he

1309
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: gets that it's unfair. John Moran is still trying to

1310
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: get that three ball consistent, that big range. When he

1311
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: get that it's unfair. Um, you know like those guys

1312
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: Shave six five point guard that can do whatever on

1313
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: the court and his shots evolving as well. I look

1314
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: at guys that's dominant and all star level now that

1315
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: still has room to grow to take over the mantel.

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Speaker 1: When these guys lead and they're marketable, you honest is marketable.

1317
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: Shade got the you know we're talking to talking about

1318
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Speaker 1: marketable when you're talking about telling them. Shae has the

1319
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: Louis Vatton NBA dealing in the face of converse and

1320
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Speaker 1: doing a whole. But Moran is marketable, personable, So it's Dante.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the NBA is in great hands, bro, The

1322
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: NBA is in great you know who John My John

1323
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: Morant remind me of and a lot of people don't

1324
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: realize how good it was. Baron Davis, the reason reminds

1325
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: me of Bear is explosive, explosive, but can play with pace.

1326
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: See russ don't play with pace. Russe's barn was explosive,

1327
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: can play up, bold, play with pace, and was a

1328
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: pure point guard as well. It wasn't just athlete like injuries.

1329
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: Barre ex to write reads, pick and roll, plays with

1330
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: page change. But once he see that lane, it's you

1331
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, so that's where he reminds

1332
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: me of Beat. People say Russ, but Russ athleticism wise, yeah,

1333
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: but Russ is still one speed. There's no that's a

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01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: great point, man, that's a great point. With the pace

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Speaker 1: pace at all Bed had all the Arguably, Beat was

1336
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Speaker 1: like one of the best basketball players I had seen,

1337
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: like ever had seen at one point in his career,

1338
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: Like he was that dominant, he was like he gave

1339
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: you that feeling on the inside like this is one

1340
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: of the best basketball players I've ever seen. Like you

1341
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: only get that on certain dudes, bro, and Beat was

1342
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: definitely definitely one of those dudes. But oh, my man,

1343
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time, my brother. We've been

1344
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: on this thing about an hour or something. Bro, I

1345
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: gotta let you go. I know you gotta you probably

1346
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: headed to the gym and you've got something to do, man,

1347
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you taking the time to day my brother.

1348
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: No man, thanks for having me. I know. We went

1349
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: off topic a little bit and went little you know,

1350
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: we're good. We're good, but no man, it's talking basketball

1351
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: with someone you respect. It's always it's always a blessing,

1352
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: you know. Likewise, brother, can't wait till we do it again.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Old and simplest, tap in with the

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Speaker 1: young fellow kJ Live brother tap in with