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Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 2: Aton Jim is a story that is a rollercoaster of emotions.

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Speaker 2: A very young doctor. You know, young in your career,

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Speaker 2: it's harder to speak out and speak up in a

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Speaker 2: Karen Silkwood sort of way as a whistleblower because you

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Speaker 2: don't have the credibility. I can call out anything these

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Speaker 2: days because I'm established. But when you're starting in your career,

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Speaker 2: you don't have that capital that you can employ to

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Speaker 2: defend against claims that you know you're a bad guy,

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Speaker 2: or you can get fired.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Aton Jim was at a Houston hospital where he discovered

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Speaker 2: mutilation of children, young children by the medical establishment, and

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Speaker 2: he worked very hard to expose this in order to

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Speaker 2: end it, got a state law changed as a result

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Speaker 2: of it, and the thanks he got from the hospital

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Speaker 2: system and authorities was that he was prosecuted criminally. It's

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Speaker 2: an awful story, but this this sky gets knocked down

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Speaker 2: but gets back up again. He was in front of

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Speaker 2: Congress this week and myle my, how this story, how

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Speaker 2: it has turned and he is the triumphant Paul Revere

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Speaker 2: in the era of goodness, and we're honored to have

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Speaker 2: him on the show. Aton Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: Sir, thank you so much for having me. It's great

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Speaker 1: to be back on.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's a very different mood than once when

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Speaker 2: we talked and I thought, this poor guy, he got

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Speaker 2: swallowed up in the swamp. Let's go back to give

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Speaker 2: a brief explanation of what brought you to the attempt,

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Speaker 2: what you did, and why you did it originally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's really been a wild story. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: my name is Ayton him. I was a general surgier

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Speaker 1: resident at Baylor College Medicine in Houston, Texas, between twenty

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Speaker 1: eighteen twenty twenty three. One of Baylor's primary affiliate hospitals,

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Speaker 1: like its primary training hospitals, is Texas Children's, you know,

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Speaker 1: the largest children's hospital in the world. They said that

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Speaker 1: they were shutting down their transgender program in March twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. That was in response to Texas turned general

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Speaker 1: opinion a few weeks before that that said it could

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Speaker 1: constitute criminal child abuse, right, So they said they're shutting

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Speaker 1: it down, right, you know, nothing to see here. Well,

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Speaker 1: I worked there, I knew that was a lie. Over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of months after March twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: I saw that they not only continued the program but

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Speaker 1: expanded it right into a multi displainmer clinic. It was

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Speaker 1: a hospital wide priority. So I didn't believe it for months,

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Speaker 1: but then I saw how egregious the deception really was.

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Speaker 1: So then I blew the whistle. On May sixteenth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, I was an anonymous whistleblower in the story

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Speaker 1: by the investigative journalist Chris Trufo, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: revealed tcch's deception. No identifiable information was released. It was

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Speaker 1: like the same de identified hospital data they released to

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Speaker 1: like news organizations out in sexious diseases. Right, So the

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Speaker 1: story comes out, gets really big. No one knows who

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Speaker 1: I am. The day later, Texas passes SB fourteen, right,

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Speaker 1: which banns these transgender interventions on children. So within twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours for a story coming out, what we exposed

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Speaker 1: was made illegal. And then the agent announces an investigation

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Speaker 1: in TCCH. More whistleblower speak out, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: just go on with my life. Right. A month later,

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Speaker 1: agents came to my home. It was June twenty third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the day of my graduation from surgical training,

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Speaker 1: one of the most important days in my life. Two

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Speaker 1: out I'm being investigated by the federal government. And then

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Speaker 1: what followed after that was this you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: cyclone of the most corrupt prosecutors, FBI agents, the most

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Speaker 1: insane criminal prosecution of all time, where they used hippa

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Speaker 1: and instead of making it about patient privacy, right, they

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Speaker 1: that's and I mean that literally because the victims in

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that the lead prosecutor bringing the

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Speaker 1: the lead prosecutor or Thanksgiving dinner without hitting you know,

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Speaker 1: world level corruption. You know, after wet made that known,

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Speaker 1: that was in November twenty twenty four, you know, she

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Speaker 1: He just threatened to send me to jail. So he

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Speaker 1: But then after the inauguration, you know, things really spin

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Speaker 1: So it was we were getting desperate. So I violated

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Speaker 1: So you know, I essentially held up the middle finger

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Speaker 1: I continued to speak out, you know, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I violated his gag ordering. You know. Luckily, you know,

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Speaker 1: the stars kind of aligned, Josh Holly, a bunch of

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Speaker 1: they were able to have the case dismissed with prejudice.

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Speaker 1: And it also helped that the politically appointed a US

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Speaker 2: On just a second, this story has has a happy ending, folks,

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Speaker 2: a very happy endings A hang type.

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Speaker 1: The term intercourse on your program.

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Speaker 2: If it's relevant to this story for journalistic purpose. At

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Speaker 2: him is in my opinion, up there with parn Silkwood

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Speaker 2: Paul Revere as someone who became the tip of the

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Speaker 2: But we know that's not true. The reason we say

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Speaker 2: you might get crushed. And he did get crushed. Let's

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Speaker 2: be clear, he did get crushed. And somehow out of

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Speaker 2: all of that, this guy, you know, it's amazing. It

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Speaker 2: really is. The glories of the fact that he is

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Speaker 2: most people would have turned tail and hid me. Well,

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Speaker 2: why do you do the right thing? Well I didn't.

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Speaker 2: This guy did the right thing, and we should do.

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Speaker 2: We cannot extol his virtues enough. There should be a

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Speaker 2: all right, so catch us up on the case from there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's sorry that was quite a long explanation,

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Speaker 1: but it's a very convoluted, crazy story and so really

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Speaker 1: the ultimate thing that happened was that at the last

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Speaker 1: That was on Friday, January twenty fifth. And then that Sunday,

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Speaker 1: was amazing, Josh Holly hadn't vite me to the President

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Speaker 1: Trump's first Day of the Union. And then now yesterday

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Speaker 1: I testified, so and you're correct, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: I was being crushed. I mean, for the past two

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Speaker 1: so painful. But it's like, you know, if I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: It's like, I just have to do it because I

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Speaker 2: Like, as bad as I feel for you, if we

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Speaker 1: How can we ever, Yeah, how can we ever deliver

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for your wife. She had to go

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Speaker 1: She was working in the Northern district of Texas. The

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Speaker 1: It's because her blood pressure was really high, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: So you have recovered. You're the better for it. If

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Speaker 2: you do have some scars to show tell me how

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Speaker 2: it felt speaking before.

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Speaker 1: Congress many it was amazing, and you know, especially it's

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Speaker 1: like you go through so much. You know, we're still

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Speaker 1: a million dollars in dead, you know, and if anyone's

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Speaker 1: dot com forward slash Texas Underscore whistle blower. It's we're

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Speaker 1: forever grateful for it, and we'll pay it off over time.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll probably pay legal bills with Social Security check.

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Speaker 1: But is what it is. But to be able to

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Speaker 1: the greatest things ever because especially going toe to toe

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Speaker 1: with these Democrats. You know, these people they stand up

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Speaker 2: Probably how old are you.

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Speaker 2: Man? You have lived a lot of life in a

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Speaker 2: So you took on Texas Children's Hospital, you took on

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Speaker 2: saw that children were being mutilated in violation of Texas

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Speaker 1: In violation, and I believe this has always been illegal,

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Speaker 1: but words is in violation of divine law, of God's law. Right.

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Speaker 1: These children are created perfect, and what these doctors were

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Speaker 2: They should be protected. I'm going interrupt you because I

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Speaker 2: and it'll crash into the break. You told the story

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Speaker 2: they create a fake female organ and you told about

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Speaker 2: People need to understand how brutal the system. Tell that

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Speaker 1: If you would. Yeah, yeah, So it's I see these

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