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Speaker 1: Advice Shooters.

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Speaker 2: It's nice. Hello, welcome to the not even nice Sham.

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Speaker 2: Your host from Shooter is Wednesday, which means our dear

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Speaker 2: friend Donny Meecham John says, Hey, Donnie, are you there Wednesdaynesday?

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Speaker 1: Wednesday? It's so good to see you? And it was

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Speaker 1: so good so ms D was here in l A

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Speaker 1: and Ah.

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Speaker 3: I you know what, there is very few people in

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Speaker 3: this world who are just like truly special.

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Speaker 2: She is.

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Speaker 1: She's really just yeah, so genuinely sweet, like genuine.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. I love that you two have found

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Speaker 2: each other. I love that you've become friends. She's just

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Speaker 2: the greatest. You're the gradiest too. There, Donnie, there's some

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Speaker 2: really nice people out there. You just gotta find them.

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Speaker 2: I had some really stinkers around me, so don't think

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky. I've done the work, still awful awful friends,

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Speaker 2: and now I have some really really good friends because

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Speaker 2: I made a choice. I just said I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to do that anymore. What I realized, too, is the

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Speaker 2: longer I held onto the stinkers, the less time I

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Speaker 2: had to actually find somebody who's really good. When you

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Speaker 2: find somebody really good, hold.

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Speaker 1: On, I'd rather have two really good friends than ten.

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Speaker 2: Okay friends, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I totally totally agree. No,

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Speaker 2: she had a great time. The picture I loved and

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Speaker 2: talking to pictures. What a beautiful new piece of heart

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Speaker 2: I see above your shoulder, on your on your blue walls.

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Speaker 2: Very nice.

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Speaker 1: And you know what this is the thing. Don't knock

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Speaker 1: it into your You know where I got that art?

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Speaker 2: From nowhere?

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Speaker 1: Out of somebody else's trash.

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Speaker 3: Somebody was throwing it away and I looked at it

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Speaker 3: and I said, gorgeoueous.

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Speaker 1: Why you love that?

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Speaker 2: Tell everybody you got it at the Whitney or the

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Speaker 2: Metropolitan Music. Oh, it looks like it could be there.

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Speaker 2: It's gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. What is it? It's a scene

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Speaker 2: of canal or.

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Speaker 1: In Venice, the Venice Canal.

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Speaker 2: Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. I'm painting the scene for everybody listening. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's jump into the show. God damn is it? My friends?

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Speaker 2: It is tea time. So a big announcement. Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: does have a new album. It's her twelfth twelve studio album,

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Speaker 2: and the way she decided to announce it is really interesting.

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Speaker 2: She did it on Travis Kelce's podcast, Now, Let's be

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Speaker 2: honest here. She could announce an album anywhere. She could

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Speaker 2: get on the Today Show, she could get on the

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Speaker 2: Tonight Show, she could do it on her own social

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Speaker 2: media page. She chose to do it on Travis Kelcey's show.

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Speaker 2: I'm told my inside as I hit the phone that

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Speaker 2: this was her decision. He's actually quite cautious about using

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Speaker 2: her celebrity, and he tries not to talk about it

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Speaker 2: too much on his podcast. He has a really successful podcast.

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Speaker 2: But if I was dating Taylor Swift, she'd be on

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Speaker 2: this podcast every day because I'd want the numbers. We

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Speaker 2: can make us a top ten podcast in the world

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Speaker 2: if you get Taylor Swift. I'm told he's been a

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Speaker 2: real gentleman about it. This was her decision, she asked.

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Speaker 2: She sort of approached him, I'm told, and was like,

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Speaker 2: would you mind if I came on yours? Would I mind?

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be great? And so I love that these

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Speaker 2: two are helping each other. I like too that he's

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Speaker 2: not taking advantage of her. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: who would We've seen this in celebrity relationships, haven't we. Donnie,

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Speaker 2: where you like, are you really in love? You're just

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Speaker 2: after the money, just after the power. Here, I think

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Speaker 2: these two are the real deals. The album sounds super,

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Speaker 2: super exciting. There has been a few leaks out there.

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Speaker 2: We see that she's going back to some really pop

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Speaker 2: pop composers. So this might be the old school Tailor

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Speaker 2: Dead Poet Society were really really smart, really great albums.

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Speaker 2: But I think we just want to dance. I think

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Speaker 2: the world is in such an awful place, we just

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Speaker 2: want to dance. It's interesting the revival of Mamma Mia

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Speaker 2: It's one of the top shows, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: because everybody is desperate to just giggle and dance and

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Speaker 2: I turn on the TV. I'm like, ah, So, I think,

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Speaker 2: once again, Taylor's right on the money, right on the

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Speaker 2: cultural moment. She knows how to time something. This album,

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Speaker 2: it looks like it's gonna be big anthems, big dance

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Speaker 2: pop albums. I would imagine very very share belief type songs.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for that. I think this sounds terrific, and

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Speaker 2: I like the way that she announced it. What do

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Speaker 1: You said the Dead Poet Society, which is that movie

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Speaker 1: starring Robin Williams. It's the Tortured Poet's Department.

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Speaker 2: It was, oh god, you got the wrong. It's both

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Speaker 2: were quite sad.

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Speaker 3: Because it can't be tricky when you mix, you know,

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Speaker 3: business and pleasure. Because Taylor, yes, granted it's her boyfriend's podcast,

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Speaker 3: she can say whatever she wants, she does have to

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Speaker 3: and sometimes that conflict can go. I do she did

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Speaker 3: throw him a little bit of a bone because you know,

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Speaker 3: there is some you know, there are talks for contracts

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Speaker 3: for them to sell the podcast to a bigger company.

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Speaker 3: I think I think this could definitely help.

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Speaker 1: I think that's going way that because this is going

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Speaker 1: to be it because this year is he's done in NFL.

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Speaker 2: This is his last season. I mean, nik, he's on

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Speaker 2: the COQ. Yeah, so his ads on the cover of

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Speaker 2: GQ looking very sexy pictures inside. He is it, man,

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Speaker 2: There's no dat. He was always a star's He's always

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Speaker 2: been a star in his own right, but dating the

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Speaker 2: most famous person in the world has increased his star power.

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Speaker 2: Like you and me, we probably wouldn't know him were

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Speaker 2: not into sports people, and so this has changed that.

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Speaker 2: I know who Travis Kelsey is because he's dating Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: But it is tricky, isn't it. She do want to

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Speaker 2: help your partner, but at the same time, you don't

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Speaker 2: want to look like you're throwing them a bone, or

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Speaker 2: you don't want to look like it's patronized. But I

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Speaker 2: think somehow, when I watched this, I actually knew it

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Speaker 2: was going to happen. There's a lot of roomors out

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Speaker 2: there that it was going to happen. A source told

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Speaker 2: me this was going to happen, and it was her plan.

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Speaker 2: She runs her business. She has a team, she has

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Speaker 2: brilliant publicist, she has a brilliant manager, she has a team,

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Speaker 2: but she ultimately makes the decision. She's not one of

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Speaker 2: these week celebrities out there who just listen to their

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Speaker 2: charge of this ship. It's her name. I have so

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Speaker 2: much mad respect for her, and she thought this would

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Speaker 2: be a really good way. And I've got to admit

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Speaker 2: any album from Taylor Swift would be big news, but

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Speaker 2: the fact she did it on a boyfriend's podcast, and

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Speaker 2: then there's video we can see the two of them flirting,

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Speaker 2: having fun together. They're even wearing the merchandise her from

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Speaker 2: her new album, I Love It Life of a show Girl.

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Speaker 1: That's a different title for Taylor. It's a very flirty.

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Speaker 3: But I think, to be quite frank, I think this

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Speaker 3: showed a more humanizing side.

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Speaker 1: Of Tabe because I think we all love her.

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Speaker 3: She's but she is so big that it's like sometimes

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Speaker 3: you just think of her as she's God, which like

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Speaker 3: she's gonna like metaphorically, But it's like this show that

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you know, she poops,

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, she goes, you know

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Speaker 3: what is it, She wakes up and she can be

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Speaker 3: a little cranky, you know what I'm saying, Like it

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Speaker 3: just this humanizes her. She does never really see her laughing, giggling,

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Speaker 3: having fun, right, not in a long time, not in

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Speaker 2: She doesn't. I think she's gonna go back to her roots.

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Speaker 2: I love the online hashtag Lola is trending a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Lola from Copacabana, the song that my husband Bruce Wright's

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Speaker 2: probably about the most famous show girl in the world.

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Speaker 2: Her name was Lola. She was a show girl. Wouldn't

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Speaker 2: it be lovely? If Copacabana's on this album? I don't

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Speaker 1: Does he still gonna check?

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Speaker 2: It is such an exciting day. There's something about her.

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Speaker 2: The music business is not a business I'm particularly excited

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Speaker 2: about anymore. It really isn't. I miss albums. I don't

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Speaker 2: music business now is streaming and it's just this on

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Speaker 2: and not my thing anymore. Taylor Swift is one of

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Speaker 2: those few artists that I'm really looking forward. I'll get

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Speaker 2: this record when it's released, I'll go onto iTunes, I'll

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Speaker 2: pay my twelve bucks, I'll download it, and I'm really

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Speaker 2: looking forward to listen to the track after track after track.

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Speaker 2: She's old school, she's retro, and she doesn't take herself

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Speaker 2: too seriously. A lot of artists Madonna did this when

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Speaker 2: Remember when she wore a patch over a rye and

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Speaker 2: she went to, Oh, Madonna, I want tho, I want

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Speaker 2: into the groove. I want to give you to that

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Speaker 2: cone bra.

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Speaker 1: I want to see you look like a cone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want that. And Taylor Swift probably won't give

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Speaker 2: us a cone bra, but she's gonna give us old

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Speaker 2: school tailor suit, which brings us to our whole question

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Speaker 2: of the day. Personally decided that of all the places

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Speaker 2: in the world, she could have done this anywhere. She

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Speaker 2: was going to release a new album details on Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's podcast, wasn't a good idea? What do you think

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Speaker 2: working together with your partner good idea? Yes or no? Go?

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Speaker 2: time a Rahua to hear your results. Hey, Donnie Love,

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Speaker 2: what are you working on? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Working on something?

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Speaker 3: I got rob Shoote's best friend here, Bethany Franco. She's

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Speaker 3: got some dating drama, so she says that she's hesitant

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Speaker 3: to step back out on the dating pool.

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Speaker 1: I say there's not a lot of people lining up

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Speaker 1: to dater AnyWho.

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Speaker 4: With somebody, An exclusive source told Shooter Scoop, which would

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Speaker 4: be her ex It says that Bethany's in love with

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Speaker 4: Bethany and she can't love anyone else but Bethany.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that tracks.

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Speaker 2: That does, right. We've seen her, We've seen her on

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Speaker 2: reality TV shows try to find love. We've seen her

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Speaker 2: have these really volatile relationships. There's something going on here.

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Speaker 2: It's not just romantic relationships friendships. She fell out with

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Speaker 2: Jill Sarah, she felt out with Carol Razwell, she fell

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Speaker 2: out with Andy Cohen, she fell out with Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 2: There was a moment when I was like friendly with Bethany.

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Speaker 2: We'd go out for dinner and we'd hang out a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and then she turned on me. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but you think that if somebody gets older

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Speaker 2: and they get all that money and they get a

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Speaker 2: little wiser, that they mellow people are who they are.

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Speaker 2: Bethanye's first love is Bethany. It's reality TV, and that's

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Speaker 2: really off putting for a lot of people. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I could date a reality star. I just don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the show. I don't

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