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Speaker 2: It looks very cozy. I don't play.

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Speaker 1: I know, and it's Disney, and I know you love Disney,

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Speaker 1: But that dude rocks that sweatshirt almost every podcast.

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Speaker 2: At least some times. I imagine he goes to that sweater.

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Speaker 1: That is his go to. If people saw a video

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Speaker 1: of this podcast, you well, they would see that we

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Speaker 1: change our outfits. Yes, but Donald is almost always in

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Speaker 1: a Mickey Mouse hoodie.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it his podcasting sweater from now on. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it has cute little ears on the top of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, mister Rogers changes into his outfit of each show.

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Speaker 1: Donald grabs his Mickey Mouse hoodie with the hood and

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Speaker 1: for the audience who's listening, the hoodie has little ears

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Speaker 1: on it, so it's very cute.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if he sings that as he puts

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Speaker 1: on his Mickey Mouse hoodie before.

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Speaker 3: Each show, it changes from his loafers to his inside shoes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he puts He takes off his Jordan fores and

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Speaker 1: puts on some uggs.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what are the things we are allowed

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Speaker 4: to talk about now.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do. There's so much

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Speaker 1: are you recording? Yeah, I got so much to say

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Speaker 1: to you don't even know where to begin.

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Speaker 4: Yo, dude, Like, what are we allowed to talk about?

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Speaker 1: You can talk about, Well, you as just a SAG

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Speaker 1: member can't really talk about jack shit. I, as a

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Speaker 1: Writer's Guild member, can talk about how good of the

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Speaker 1: movie A Good Person is and everyone should check it out.

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Speaker 1: If they haven't got to see it, you should, as

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Speaker 1: I want been meaning to tell people forever I could,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. It's on airplanes, it's on it's everywhere now,

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Speaker 1: and please check it out if you happen to miss

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Speaker 1: A Good Person. I have my lips have been duct taped.

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Speaker 1: As a good member of my guild, right, but as

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Speaker 1: the writer director, I am now allowed to tell you

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Speaker 1: to please check out A Good Person. You can rent

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Speaker 1: it everywhere. It's really good. If you want a good

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Speaker 1: cry on an airplane, which is the best place to

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Speaker 1: cry to a movie, I highly recommend it. Well, it's sorry, Donald,

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed. Well, you can comment on the writing

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Speaker 1: of it, Donald, I think right, I.

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Speaker 4: Can say I can say that it is well written,

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Speaker 4: thank you well directed, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You sir, thank you. I love you, I miss you.

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Speaker 4: I miss you too.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you a scrappiness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what. This weekend, I coached my son

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Speaker 4: to AH championship at Grassroots sixty five at a Grassroo

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Speaker 1: But they won, and you were so stoked and it

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Speaker 4: They won. He had a good championship game, which is

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Speaker 1: But you want me too hard on him because my

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Speaker 4: His stats weren't great this weekend. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: He's been having really good basketball tournaments at this spot

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Speaker 4: where we go because he goes there a lot. He

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Speaker 4: far as his age group goes now the Inglewood guard Dogs, right,

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Speaker 4: but they didn't play this weekend. He played with his

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Speaker 4: It's an eleven U team and he's playing up with

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Speaker 4: He thought he was going to go down there and

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Speaker 1: But he's still you want.

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Speaker 4: He turned up in the finals, and I'm proud of him.

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Speaker 1: I hope if I have a kid there is into

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Speaker 4: Well, that'd be really awesome if you had a kid

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. If I had a kid that

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Speaker 4: I really can't talk about anything else.

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Speaker 1: You can't, as a SAG member talk about promote any

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Speaker 1: anything that you're enjoying watching. No, no, sorry, it'll be

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Speaker 4: It would go You could talk about it. Aren't you

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you want to talk about a Shoka, but

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Speaker 1: I don't watch it and I don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 1: What is it a shoka?

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Speaker 4: Lest for me? I can't say, but you can.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't watch Ahsoka. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say something. Do you? You don't watch Black Mirror?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: You don't watch anything I send you?

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Speaker 4: Do you so frustratedly watched dog? Listen?

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Speaker 1: Man, listen if I What frustrates me so much amongst

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so donald. He will love

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Speaker 4: because this is where we're going with it. Did you

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Speaker 4: Did you watch the Boys thing?

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Speaker 1: The GENV thingug me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, motherfucker, I know where this is going.

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Speaker 1: I know where this is going, Joel, did you see it?

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Speaker 3: It's my on my next to watch list. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: I've heard nothing but great thing.

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Speaker 4: You can't say it's on your next to watch list? Joelle,

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Speaker 1: She's not a member of saying, oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: guys are killing me. Right, so you guys, you gotta watch.

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Speaker 1: If you love the Boys, you gotta watch gen G

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Speaker 1: It's really good. It's kind of like X men ish

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Speaker 1: So, any I'm watching the show gen V and they like,

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Speaker 1: I got a part in a new show. It's a Marvel.

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Speaker 4: That is nuts. That feels good though, But.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, the show is very good.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you should be directing some boys.

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Speaker 1: I know, listen if anyone from the Boys is listening.

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Speaker 4: They're directing. Slave might even be full this year or

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Speaker 4: It's a new season.

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Speaker 1: They start making out because they're both so hot, right,

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Speaker 1: But they're feeling the feelings on their couches in their houses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so who's the bottom.

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Speaker 1: So then they start realizing like, oh my god, this

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Speaker 4: Look, it's definitely cheating if you're having sex in VR

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Speaker 4: Don't talk that way, Joel, Joelle, you think when doctors

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you like the Joel you rolled your eyes?

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Speaker 1: That's how she's laugh just because it's so stupid, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, listen, guys, today we talked about Vagina's

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Speaker 6: Yea lady and gentlemen, give it up for Andy.

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Speaker 4: Andy, that is a cool intro.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Oh look, Andy's got all the professional gear and everything too.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get a great recording out of him.

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Speaker 1: And he Welcome to the podcast. That's my co host,

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Speaker 1: Donald Faison, Welcome. I want to just give the audience

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Speaker 5: Thank you for such a wonderful intro.

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Speaker 5: The message of alcohol freedness with the world, that's what

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Speaker 5: And then, like lots of people, I started to experiment

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Speaker 4: Yeah? First of all, as someone who still drinks alcohol

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Speaker 4: Right, you said that you were a rugby player or

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Speaker 4: a soccer play football player when you stopped drinking alcohol.

438
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Speaker 4: Did that make it so that you went to the

439
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Speaker 4: gym and that your diet changed because of that? Because

440
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 4: you know, there are people that say, you know, no

441
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,919
Speaker 4: lost weight, I just stopped drinking and that's all they did.

442
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 4: And I find that hard to believe because when I

443
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: didn't drink I didn't just lose weight. I had to

444
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 4: go to the gym and stuff like that. Can you

445
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 4: speak on how your physique and fitness came back to you,

446
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 4: because I've seen pictures of you when you were at

447
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 4: the height of your middle ground drinking.

448
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 5: So true, and you're right. Well, some of the research,

449
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 5: which is really interesting, says that for middle lane drinkers

450
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 5: who take a twenty eight day break from alcohol, they

451
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 5: on average lose about free kilograms, which is really interesting.

452
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: But for me, you're right, the reason that the weight

453
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 5: fell off wasn't just stopping drinking. It was actually then

454
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 5: that I got consistent in the way that I was exercising.

455
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 5: Because if we think about it, what is the number

456
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 5: one thing that gets in the way of our consistency

457
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 5: of exercise? I would say for most people it's a

458
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 5: hangover all those few drinks at the weekend that means

459
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 5: they can't quite be bothered to go to the gym

460
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 5: on a Monday or a Tuesday. What's the number one

461
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 5: thing that destroys our nutrition is invariably that stodge food

462
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 5: that we crave after those couple of drinks. Again, this

463
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 5: is middle lane drinking. So when you remove that suddenly

464
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 5: my nutrition was much better, my exercise was more consistent.

465
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 5: Plus I removed all those calories from alcohol. And you're right,

466
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 5: the combination of those few things the white fell off

467
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 5: on me. I got into the best shape of my

468
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: life mainly because the catalyst was alcohol, but then it

469
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 5: was the combination of all those other things.

470
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Speaker 4: Yeah, how old are you?

471
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Speaker 5: Forty nine tomorrow?

472
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, same age.

473
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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, same age as Donald Faison. I think also too,

474
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Speaker 1: when you do it, I've been just experimenting with not

475
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: drinking for a while now, and you feel you automatically

476
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: feel like proud of that the quote unquote health kick

477
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: that you're on. So I think another answer to Donald's

478
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 1: question is it goes Oh well, I do want to

479
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Speaker 1: do that. I do want to get on the bike,

480
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 1: I do want to go to that yoga class because

481
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this health kick, and there is no there

482
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: is no headache when you wake up, so you're more

483
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: likely to go do the thing because you're not like

484
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: the cloud and the fog of whether it's two drinks

485
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: or too many drinks from the night before just isn't

486
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Speaker 1: a part of your life.

487
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 5: That's certainly so true. I think that's what happens to

488
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 5: most people. They get on this lovely role of health

489
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 5: because the foundation for me is remove alcohol tactically for

490
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 5: a period of time. Doesn't have to be for everything.

491
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 5: But I think in that space, as you say, people

492
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 5: feel better, they look better, which compounds in motivation to

493
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 5: keep doing the things that they get results from, such

494
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 5: as exercise and better nutrition.

495
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 4: I've seen Zach on two sides. I've seen Zach on

496
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 4: the side where it was like, oh boy, you are gone,

497
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: and now I see him where he's He's always been

498
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 4: kind of the life of the party, but he holds

499
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 4: court and is very clear and there's no there's no

500
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: inebriation to it. As a friend, it's something to admire.

501
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: And then when he meets people and then they try

502
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 4: to push things on him. As his friend, I find

503
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 4: myself step trying to step into like, yo, leave him alone.

504
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 4: He's sober and this is and and it's really really

505
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 4: working for him, you know what I mean. I need

506
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 4: to get on this kick too. What is this twenty

507
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 4: eight day challenge?

508
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: Well, are gonna get to all that, But I just

509
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: want to say, like I actually, for me, the hardest

510
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: part of experimenting with sobriety is the only challenging part

511
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: for me personally, and obviously everyone listening you have a

512
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: different story. I'm never speaking for you. I'm only speaking

513
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: for myself. Is when I sit down to dinner and

514
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: everyone orders a drink. It's that first drink at a

515
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: dinner party a restaurant where everyone's like, oh, I'll have this,

516
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: we will have that. You have that that I feel like, ooh,

517
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 1: that would be nice. A wine buzz right now at

518
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: the end of this day would be great. But the

519
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: set like five minutes later, when their drinks arrive and

520
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: they start that that has passed. For me. I'm now present.

521
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: I enjoy when people get buzzed. That doesn't bother me

522
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: at all. I'm whereas I would have started getting buzzed

523
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: and not as present. I'm now way more present in

524
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: the conversation and listening to people and contributing in this

525
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: someone who likes to make people laugh, quicker witted, and

526
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: all of the things that I was trying to be

527
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: by getting drunk. I'm actually truly more of sober.

528
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is so powerful, And I discovered that myself.

529
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 5: It took me years to figure it out. I would

530
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 5: drink to overcome that initial social anxiety, that uncomfortable feeling

531
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Speaker 5: when people get together in a group. Recently, we had

532
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 5: a big boat party on the Thames called the No

533
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 5: Booze Cruise. Two hundred and fifty people got together on

534
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 5: a boat, no alcohol, and the first fifteen minutes there

535
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: was that natural sense of uncomfortableness getting to no new people,

536
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 5: and then it went away. And then it dawned on

537
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 5: me that for all of those years and how many

538
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: people are in this bracket drink to overcome that social anxiety,

539
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 5: when actually if they just sat with it for fifteen minutes,

540
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 5: you described it goes and then you're sharp, You've got

541
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 5: the banter, you can be that life and soul and

542
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 5: then you feel incredible.

543
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 4: You can drive home.

544
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you wake up at seven in the morning

545
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, yes, fucking awesome.

546
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: How long does it take really for alcohol to set

547
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: into like about fifteen minutes right where you're like, oh shit,

548
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: I'm drunk, right, And if you didn't drink and you

549
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 4: just let the party come to you, you still be

550
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 4: in the same state. You just wouldn't be inebriated.

551
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: What I find is that, and this is funny, You're

552
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: just reminded me. And this is a random I wasn't

553
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: playing some about this. But when we did the Garden State,

554
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: the scene in the Garden State where there's an ecstasy

555
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: party scene, and it was the second day of filming,

556
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: and I was so nervous. I was a young director.

557
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like, how am I going to get thirty

558
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: people to act like they're on drugs and drunk and axing?

559
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: And I was had all these plans like, oh, let

560
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: them drink. What am I gonna do? I go, No,

561
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: that'll be a mess. And we just started acting it

562
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: and being it, and within fifteen minutes everyone felt the

563
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: feelings if you had twenty five people pretending to be

564
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: on ecstasy and drug and I'm they just manifesting it,

565
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's a bizarre way of putting it,

566
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: but also that's true when you're sober in a party setting,

567
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: if you just manifest like I am present, I am interested,

568
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I am silly, it just naturally happens.

569
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's the placebo. Now, I think of the

570
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 5: alcohol free drinks that didn't exist. You know when I

571
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 5: got into this ten years ago, that wasn't an option.

572
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 5: That wasn't none available really, so you have to stand

573
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: there with, you know, a fizzy drink of cola. Yeah,

574
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 5: And it was so obvious.

575
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: It's like a.

576
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 5: Beacon to say, I'm not drinking. Pickle me, pressurize me

577
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 5: to drink.

578
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: Where is now? What are you not drinking? Bandy bud.

579
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: Let's take a break.

580
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. Well, Andy,

581
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. I want to go

582
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: into that because another thing I loved about what you

583
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: said is and we're going to get into the challenge

584
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: and stuff, but one of the things that I loved

585
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: what you said is that you love using the challenge

586
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: for the societal pressures because you can say to people, oh,

587
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing this challenge, and especially men, it's such a

588
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: man a masculine thing. It just shifts people. They're like, oh,

589
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: what's the challenge? What are you doing? And so it

590
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: sort of takes the peer pressure out of it because

591
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: people are curious of this challenge that you're on. Can

592
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: you speak to that a bit.

593
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was really important to me because, as

594
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: Donald just mentioned, they're there's social pressure, especially ten years ago,

595
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: to drink was immense, especially if you've been that guy,

596
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: and I was that guy. You know, if you're going

597
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: to come out with me, I was going to entertain you,

598
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 5: and it was going to involve alcohol. It's how I

599
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: met my friends, met my wife. It was just quite

600
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 5: ubiquitous in the way that I would socialize. If you

601
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 5: try and switch that off, it's really difficult because you

602
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: meet the same friends or you meet your clients and

603
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 5: they're like, well, hold on a minute, almost as if

604
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: that's a slight on them, So you don't want to

605
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 5: drink around me, And of course my rubber arm would

606
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 5: be twisted then really quickly, you know, and I'd be

607
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 5: called boring and all those things that would often trip

608
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 5: me up. So I couldn't get started. So I had

609
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 5: to come up with a bit of a plan. So

610
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: for me, making it a challenge and telling people that

611
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: I was on a challenge brought me some time because

612
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: I think in their mindset they were a bit like, oh,

613
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 5: I'm going to get my buddy back in twenty eight

614
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: days or ninety days, so I'll let you away with it.

615
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 5: But secretly I knew if I could get on a

616
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 5: roll with this, which I did, I might never go back.

617
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: And here I am pretty much ten years.

618
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: Later, right, But didn't you say also that, like I

619
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: thought you said this that the sort of friends and

620
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: men react differently to the concept of a challenge.

621
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 5: Oh, completely, because I think we're used to that help

622
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 5: me from triathlons to lion men and marathons. It's a

623
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 5: bit like raw challenge. So they got that, oh, we

624
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: can do a challenge.

625
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that.

626
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: I'll let you do that as a friend. But as

627
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 5: long as you're going to come back right and drink

628
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: with me at the end of the challenge, and I'll

629
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 5: be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, You're.

630
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: Like and then after the twenty eight days you're like,

631
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: you know what, dude, I gotta be honest with you, bro. Yeah,

632
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to go back, Bro, I don't want

633
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: to come back, man, Like, I just feel good about

634
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: myself right now. And let's uh, let's let's just we've

635
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: been kicking it anyway. Let's just really ask you know.

636
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: One of the things I've been fascinating with. And I

637
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: know this is obvious to everyone listening, but I really

638
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: be aware of it as I as I play with

639
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: sobriety that gosh. I said this to Annie in an

640
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: email we are sold from our entire lives that this

641
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: is how you have fun from high school to college

642
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: to socializing as an adult. Whether it's advertising, whether it's

643
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: just our culture, whether it's our friends, it's our parents,

644
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: it's our big brothers and sisters. The way that you

645
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: have fun and the way that you date and hook

646
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: up and be sexy and be free is alcohol. That

647
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: was like that, even that was never questioned in my life.

648
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: That was the rules of the culture. And I imagine

649
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: it's more intense in England, but I mean in America,

650
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: that's what we grew up with.

651
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 5: I think it's the same. I mean, here's a great example.

652
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: I've got seventeen year old daughter who will soon be eighteen,

653
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: and the drink limit or age of drinking in the

654
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: UK's eighteen. Try and buy a birthday card from eighteen

655
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 5: year old that doesn't have a picture of alcohol on it.

656
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: It's almost it's.

657
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: Almost impossible to buy a birthday card for an eighteen

658
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: year old that is not celebrating the fact that they

659
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: can now drink alcohol. It's ubiquitous. We've got big alcohol

660
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: pouring trillions into marketing, lobbying our governments. We've sold a

661
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 5: story from a very young age that alcohol is fun,

662
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: it's cool, it's sexy, and marketing works. That's why we

663
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: spend so much money on it. But where I come

664
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: along is to try and wake people up a little

665
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: bit and just say is it really Is it really

666
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: that fun for you? And I think a lot of

667
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: people will flippantly say, of course it's fun and it's

668
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 5: boring to not drink, And then I'll ask questions such as, well,

669
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: have you ever not had fun whilst drinking? And I

670
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 5: would probably argue that most people, some of the worst

671
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 5: nights of their life have involved alcohol. Some of the

672
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 5: things that they're shameful for and regretful about have involved alcohol.

673
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: Many nights are very average, if not a bit shite

674
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 5: after a few drinks. It spoils many great nights. And

675
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: of course there's the old one that's a great night.

676
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 5: But that can't be the alcohol, can it, Because if

677
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 5: it was true it was alcohol, then every night would

678
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: be a great night. So I think it's when you

679
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: start to bring a bit of awareness to it, you realize, actually,

680
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: I've just been sold this dream that I keep playing,

681
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: and actually I don't think it's true for most people

682
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: when they really pick it apart.

683
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so well said. It's a habit. It's a

684
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: habit that we were just we're just so used to,

685
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: and it's ingrained in the system, like the idea of

686
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: the idea of going on I'm sure a lot of

687
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: people listening are like, yeah, I might try that. I

688
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: could try a month, but like, oh my god, going

689
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: on a date, Like, how would I even do that?

690
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: Like that's how ingrained it is into our culture. Like, wait,

691
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: you want me to go on a first date and

692
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: not drink? What are you talking about?

693
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: That's almost weird.

694
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: It would be like that.

695
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 5: I remember, this is genuinely true. One of my biggest

696
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: fears about stopping drinking. My biggest concerns was this, How

697
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: the hell was I going to dance at a wedding.

698
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: I was like, that's impossible, middle aged ginger, man, I'm

699
00:31:53,040 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 5: not even sure. So from middle aged ginger and dancing,

700
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 5: what's that? And of course I did it and it

701
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: wasn't pretty, trust me.

702
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, but if you were on alcohol, it would

703
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: have been ugly. I'm going to keep it very true.

704
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: And he talk about One thing you said on Rich's

705
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: podcast that I really responded to was this idea, even

706
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: if you're a casual drinker, you're having a few drinks

707
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: two or three times a week, you may not feel

708
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: the hangover the effects of it, but you are always

709
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: having some alcohol in your system and under some fog

710
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: of alcohol. Just talk about that, because I love the

711
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: way you put it on Rich's podcast. You were saying

712
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: that most people don't know this. They think when the

713
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: nause is over, or a hangover's over, or even if

714
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: they just had two glasses of wine at dinner, that like,

715
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: it's all good. But actually, if you're doing that at

716
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: minimum two nights a week, that alcohol is always in

717
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: your system and your brain is still under some fog

718
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: of that.

719
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's so true. That was my personal reflection.

720
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: I suddenly realized even though I was in that middle

721
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 5: lane and I was maybe out with clients during the week,

722
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: and then I'd have a few more at the weekend,

723
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: and I started to really think about the knock on

724
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: consequences and effect in terms of my psychology and physiology.

725
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 5: I realized that I was never ever out of its

726
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: clutches in many ways. And then I started to broaden

727
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 5: that and realized that probably one hundred percent of the time,

728
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: I was underperforming in my job as a parent, as

729
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: a partner, because I'm constantly a little bit tired, a

730
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: little bit jaded. We know for all the research that

731
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 5: it takes days, depending on how much you've drunk, to

732
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 5: flush through your system. We know instantly that even those

733
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 5: one or two drinks is going to destroy the quality

734
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: of your sleep. And if you look at the research

735
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: behind poor sleep and then performance and mental health, it's incredible.

736
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 5: So I was doing that to you. It destroys the

737
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: quality of your sleep. You've obviously got this process where

738
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: you're trying to maintain equilibrium. Your balance is trying to

739
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: your brain's trying to get back to balance. So when

740
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: you start to think about it, you realize that even

741
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: those couple of drinks in the week have got that

742
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: slight knock on effect for two or three days. But

743
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 5: then if you drink again at the weekend and there's

744
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: another two or three days, you're never escaping that trap. Therefore,

745
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: I believe alcohols like kryptonite to your dreams, kryptonite to

746
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 5: your performance. I think most people in the Western world

747
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 5: are underperforming in everything across the board, and they don't

748
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 5: even realize it because of that middle Lane drinking here.

749
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 4: Isn't it actually poison?

750
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's It's a carston genic I mean, there's

751
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 5: no two ways about it. It's the same as asbestos,

752
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: same as radiation, the same as tobacco. It's a number

753
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 5: one castinogen when it breaks down into the body as

754
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 5: a product called a catelde hyde.

755
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: No, it's nuts. And also it's just it's just so

756
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: frustrating that it's it's it's just so part of the

757
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: culture and accept it. It's just and I didn't really

758
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: have this epiphany about it until I until I tried

759
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: not drinking it, and then I was like, wow, it's

760
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: just funny when you zoom out, like this is just

761
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: something we do as a society. This is this is

762
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: so promoted. I know you said, build big alcohols behind it.

763
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear you talk more about that. We

764
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: know that just from growing up on Africais. I literally

765
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: I was a teenager. And if you remember, this is

766
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: how brilliant the marketing was. Absolute vodka had this amazing

767
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: campaign for years and years and years where they would

768
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: work the bottle into different forms of art and it

769
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: was in all the magazines I collected them all not

770
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: all because they're resilience. But I collected them and I

771
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: would put them on a wall in an outside my bedroom.

772
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: And my parents, you know, they were fine with it.

773
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, he's collecting cool art. I had

774
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: like a wall of vodka ads on my wall because

775
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: I was so successfully marketed to as a teenager that

776
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't even know it. I was like, oh,

777
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: this is just pretty art. It's so cool what they

778
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: do with how they work the bottle into each even

779
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: advertisement I was. I had a collush of booze art

780
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: on my wall.

781
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 4: You know, it would have been really awesome if that's

782
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: what your drink of choice is.

783
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: Vodka was, oh, I would drink vodka. Ginger beer was

784
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: what they call the Moscow mule. That was my go

785
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: to drink.

786
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: But it got you good.

787
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: And I don't even like vodka. The taste of vodka,

788
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, when you think about drinks, what

789
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: are we doing for the most part. I mean, I

790
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: know I'm not speaking for everyone, but for myself. You're

791
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: disguising the taste of the booze, right, You're trying to

792
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: give a delivery system to the booze, so it can

793
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: get into your bloodstream with a taste, so you mix

794
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: it with something right. For me, I like the taste

795
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: of ginger beer, so I would mix the alcohol with

796
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: ginger beer to hide how much I didn't like the

797
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: taste of vodka.

798
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's your story for so many people,

799
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: isn't it? It's masks.

800
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: How do I get the delivery system into my blood?

801
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I have to put orange juice with it. I have

802
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: to put cranbery juice with it. I have to put

803
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you know, make it, Make it a margarita.

804
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: Don't give me tequila? Are you crazy? Making a margarita?

805
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: The taste with all that shit in it?

806
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 4: Right? You want me to drink that shit straight?

807
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: Right?

808
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I look like you want me to drink that all right? Well,

809
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: put some sugar on the fucking rim.

810
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we bind to it. And then, you know,

811
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 5: even our first you know, drink of alcohol is awful,

812
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: isn't it. It tastes horrible. No one enjoys that, but we

813
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 5: train ourselves and oh yeah, elves through it to be

814
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: like out grun ups.

815
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: I remember the teenager being like, don't worry. One day

816
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: this beer will taste good. One day you're gonna get

817
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: past this hump.

818
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember. I remember thinking like that too, Like

819
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: this will all one day be just you.

820
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Hold your nose. Just hold your nose, bro because one

821
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: day everyone says you get, you get, you start to

822
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: like the taste. Just hold your nose.

823
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: One day you're gonna crave this. One day you're gonna

824
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: quint This will quench your thirst. One day, I remember

825
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: thinking that ship drinking forties of only with my friends,

826
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: like this shit tastes nasty. We used to take grape

827
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 4: soda and put grape soda in English to taste it,

828
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: to make that ship taste good, y'all, I remember that

829
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: Shiitish eight hundred.

830
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. I'm sure a lot of

831
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: people are asking I have questions, and I have some

832
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: of the One is okay, Andy, I'm interested. How do

833
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: I even try this?

834
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: Help me?

835
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: And I have another couple of questions. So we'll be

836
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: right back after these fine words. All right, So Andy,

837
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people listening who are thinking a couple

838
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: of things. If I was listening, I would think, okay,

839
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. I don't Let's just pick a person type

840
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: a person type A says, I don't want to be

841
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: necessarily sober forever. I'd like to have an occasional drink.

842
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: I enjoy having a glass of wine here and there.

843
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: But I am curious about your challenge and taking a

844
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: break and seeing how I feel. How the hell do

845
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: I do that? Andy, what is your advice?

846
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: First and foremost, if you look at the calendar, and

847
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 5: that's what most people do, They're like, I can't do it.

848
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: I've got the wedding, I've got the birthday, I've got

849
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 5: the leaving do this is impossible, There's there's nowhere, there's

850
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: no space for me to do this. So first and foremost,

851
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 5: I think just start. Begin as long as it's safe

852
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 5: to do so. You're a middle lane drinker and there's

853
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: a little caveat there that has to come in. But

854
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: this again exposes alcohol at it's worse. If someone is

855
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: drinking too much, you can become physically dependent on howcohol. Therefore,

856
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: to stop it to abruptly can be lethal.

857
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: All right, we should just clarify. We should clarify for safety.

858
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Here two things. One, if you you probably know if

859
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: you're not what Andy's talking about, and you need a

860
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: program and you need AA or the like, and that's

861
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: not really obviously listen to this message as well, but

862
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Andy's really speaking more to the casual drinker who But

863
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: by the way, this must, this must enlighten a lot

864
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: of people, because if you can't do it, that's also enlightening.

865
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 5: Isn't it Exactly? It's almost an early warning system for

866
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 5: many people.

867
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: This is.

868
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 5: But we're talking to the middle lane, the average drinker,

869
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 5: the moderate drinker, the sometimes not at all drinker, the

870
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: sometimes heavy drinker, is the middle lane. And I think

871
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: the best thing to do is start. Start now what

872
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: you're waiting for? Why would you wait for an opportunity

873
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: to be fitter, faster, healthier, to get your time back,

874
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 5: your energy back, for your skin to glow, to get

875
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: your motivation back, to discover what it's like to be

876
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 5: one hundred percent again imagine that, you know. That's my message,

877
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: is what are we waiting for to get started to today?

878
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: And equally, if you've got those big things in your

879
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: diary which you've always got in there between the birthdays,

880
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: between the Christmases, between the holiday seasons or the holidays,

881
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 5: they are very often the best time to start because

882
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: when you come out the other side of the wedding

883
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: and you've done sober and you've ticked that box, or

884
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: you've had that big weekend with your friends, and actually

885
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 5: you realize you were way sharper, You had a better time.

886
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 5: You felt amazing the next day, and you look incredible

887
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: the next day, and people are starting to comment on

888
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 5: how you look and how you are. There's some of

889
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 5: the best motivational.

890
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Reasons to continue in your journey.

891
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 5: So I think they're a great place to start. Join

892
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 5: a community. You know, I'm biased. We have an appical

893
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 5: Dry with an extra y.

894
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: Dry is an app they can get dry with an

895
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: extra y.

896
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, dryy. It's free to download. We have the most incredible,

897
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 5: beautiful community that's global in I'm live in there most days.

898
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: It's a live apt of beautiful people just inspire each

899
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 5: other to take a break.

900
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: Right, And that's a community. And there's challenges in there

901
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: where you can do a month or three months or whatever. Right.

902
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a really beautiful space. And I think what's

903
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 5: important about that is that when you decide to take

904
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 5: a break, very often it's a solo mission, isn't it.

905
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 5: Because we're also beautifully different, Like my wife still drinks.

906
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 5: Most of my best mates still drink, most people I

907
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: know still drink. It was my personal choice to take

908
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 5: a break, So I think what happens to a lot

909
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 5: of people. They decide to take a break, and then

910
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 5: none of their friends are doing the same, and then

911
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: it's much harder.

912
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: So I think that's the same for me.

913
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I go out with online buddies and again

914
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't I want them just clarify, I don't know

915
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: that I'm sober for life. I don't want to be

916
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: pasturing like I am. I'm enjoying playing with this and

917
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: really and do notice all the changes he's talking about,

918
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: feeling better, less depression, less anxiety. People come up to

919
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: me and they're like, you look great. What's different. The

920
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: only thing that's different is I stop drinking and feeling

921
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: already not having any hangovers, like.

922
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: Not having whiskey Dick anymore.

923
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I was about to say the ad villain, the advilla

924
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: in my cupboard has dust on it, like, I'm so

925
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: proud of the fact that advil is not a regular

926
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: part of my life anymore.

927
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: And not having whiskey Dick.

928
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I'm not. That might be your issue, Donald, but my

929
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: penis is so strong.

930
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: That it.

931
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Was able to I don't want to talk about my

932
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: penis in front of Andy Donald. He's a very important.

933
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: And he was going to talk about that. When I

934
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: said that, he was like, that's true. Once I stopped.

935
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: I saw it in his face. He was going to

936
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 4: be like, once I stopped drinking, my big got He's

937
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: an Englishman.

938
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: They don't he's proper. They don't talk about something alright,

939
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: so dry the app and I want to say, there's

940
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: an app I used called I Am Sober. That's just

941
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: a really a counter that's that's fun because you kind

942
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: of there's this is a doctor Fader thing. I'm a

943
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: cognitive behaviorist. I work with Andy who we had on

944
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: the show, who's just very into the idea of a

945
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: streak and the I Am Sober app or other counter apps,

946
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: or you can really just mark off days on a

947
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: paper calendar if you want to do it. The easiest

948
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: way is just sort of showing you like your streak

949
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: and you don't want to fuck up your streak. You know,

950
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: it's like anything, you know, just like a little kid

951
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: who's getting stickers on a calendar for using the toilet.

952
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, you want to you want to keep your

953
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: streak going. You want your sticker, you want your you

954
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: want your little the little thing that happens on I

955
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: am sober when you reach thirty days and it does

956
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: a dance. You know, it's just very you know, our

957
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: brains love the affirmation and uh and that's been helpful

958
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: to me.

959
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

960
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: And what I'd also say about that, I think I

961
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 5: recommend streaking with a twist, not to be confused with

962
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 5: naked twister. That's a whole different game. Yeah, streaking with

963
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: a twist. And what I mean by that is, if

964
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 5: it doesn't quite work out, market is a blip and.

965
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: Keep Yeah, don't stop, don't stop.

966
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that snakes and ladders sometimes you go back

967
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 5: today we have shoots.

968
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: And ladders, not snakes and ladders. But we do have

969
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: a large English audience that will know what do you

970
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: call it? Snakes and ladders?

971
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: Yes, that's a kid's board game, isn't it? Yes?

972
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: But in our country, Donald, you might know it as

973
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: shoots and ladder.

974
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: Oh no, I remember shooting remember Candy Land.

975
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's off topic, Donald, Okay, stay on topic.

976
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: Let's stay on topic. So what else can we do?

977
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 5: Streak with a twist? Join an alcohol free community, and

978
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: then I think, immerse yourself in the winds the benefits.

979
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 5: This has been my approach for ten years. The message

980
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 5: that I've been banging on about is celebrate the winds.

981
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 5: There's nothing to give up and everything to gain. And

982
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: I think if you keep that focus in mind, it's

983
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 5: really important because there's periods throughout the year where people

984
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: take a break from alcohol, and very often they do

985
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 5: so begrudgingly. And it's like, right, I'm going to do

986
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 5: a month off and I'm going to knock myself away

987
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 5: and I'm not going to see anyone. It's going to

988
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: be shut right, and I'm going to remind myself as

989
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: to why I should be drinking because this month's been

990
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: absolutely terrible. I'm the opposite, go and celebrate all the

991
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 5: benefits of being alcohol free. What does it feel like

992
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 5: to be up a bit earlier? What does it feel

993
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 5: like to see your skin glow, to be a little

994
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 5: bit less grumpy, to be more consistent in your nutrition,

995
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 5: Maybe you lose some weight, maybe you perform a bit better.

996
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: Keep your eyes on all those benefits. That's unbelievably motivational

997
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: for people, I think incredibly important. So that's my approach.

998
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 5: And then also the world has changed with the alcohol

999
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 5: free alternatives. I think they're incredible for the middle lane drinker.

1000
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: You know, you feel grown up.

1001
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: They've got that on my tails. It's funny. My go

1002
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: too is always just getting a ginger beer because I

1003
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: genuinely like ginger beer. I like the taste of it.

1004
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: Most bars have it feels like you're kind of having

1005
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: a drink. I save it for those times when I'm

1006
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: going out with people and it's like, oh, that's my

1007
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: that's my go to. And then in La especially, there's

1008
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: just so many people sober that they have now they

1009
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: have these whole drink menus that are like someone a

1010
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: waiter to me was like, you sure you want a

1011
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: ginger beer. You don't want this concoction. And I was like,

1012
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah, give me that. And it came and

1013
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: it was amazing, and it felt like a drink. I

1014
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: mean it was like had a honey in it and

1015
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: had all these ingredients in it. Because that you know, again,

1016
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: we live in LA and or New York where where

1017
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that.

1018
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: But they watched the sugar too, because that also has

1019
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 4: a lot to do with the concoctions that are made

1020
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: aren't like freaking fruit punch and orange juice and you know.

1021
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: Right, But I'm saying, if you're having one, you're giving yourself,

1022
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Like I think you can be proud enough that you're

1023
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: not not aboozing, that you can enjoy a little bit

1024
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: of sugar in your drink. Hell, I treated myself to

1025
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: a pine of Ben and Jerry's yesterday because that was

1026
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: my reward.

1027
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 4: That's a whole different.

1028
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: I'll call is the dumbest use of calories. Let's just

1029
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: be honest. It is. You know, it is so stupid.

1030
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: It is weightless, and it's just it's just drinking poison

1031
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: and putting calories on your body. It is the dumbest

1032
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: use of of of lots of calories.

1033
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 5: And we have you know, pints in the UK or

1034
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 5: a strong pint of beer is the equivalent to a

1035
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 5: hot dog and fries.

1036
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and Guinness too. I remember I usually I

1037
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: was in a phase where I was drinking Guinness. Guinness

1038
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: has so many fucking CALORIESA like a milkshake, you might

1039
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: as well have a milk chick.

1040
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: I fucking do want a milkshake right now. I'm not

1041
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: gonna lie about that.

1042
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: Have a milkshake, that's the thing. Would you rather have

1043
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: a milkshake than a Guinness? Some people are like fuck no, now, Andy.

1044
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: One thing the Hubberman had on his podcast, this whole

1045
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: thing for those of you who don't know, he's like

1046
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: the top health kind of podcaster these days, and he

1047
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: had a thing that finally put to rest any of

1048
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: this notion that there was any health benefits at all

1049
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: to alcohol, because for a while people were like, oh no.

1050
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: On the web and in research it says that a

1051
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: glass of red wine is fine a day. Is that

1052
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: that's been disproven correct.

1053
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 5: Completely, So the World Health Organization has come out clearly

1054
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 5: and said there is no safe limit. There can't be.

1055
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 5: It's a castnogen. But what you can imagine then, we've

1056
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 5: seen it with climate change, we've seen it with nutrition,

1057
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 5: we saw it with tobacco. Most definitely, it would be

1058
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 5: in the interest to promote certain studies designed to confuse people.

1059
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: You know, and you see it at the time people

1060
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 5: are con when they're confused, they continue to do what

1061
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: they've always done, which in this instance is drink. So

1062
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: you'll see something like a red wine study or a

1063
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 5: whisky a day or whatever it is on one drink

1064
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 5: a day. But if you peel back the layers of

1065
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 5: those studies the World Health Organization, it's very clear, so

1066
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 5: you'll see the sleight of hand. Then it will be

1067
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 5: less risky drinking because they can't say anymore that it

1068
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 5: is safe at these levels. Red wine is a brilliant

1069
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: example of that. And the way I look at it

1070
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: is this type of an analogy. There might be some

1071
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 5: benefits from the antioxidants in the grapes, but just drink

1072
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: grape juice, like why dance with the devil. It's a

1073
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 5: little bit like saying there's a swimming pool, and if

1074
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 5: you swim to the end of that swimming pool, it's

1075
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 5: good for you, right aerobic exercise. But by the way,

1076
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: in that swimming pool are loads of ravenu sharks. It's

1077
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 5: the same thing. You just wouldn't swim in it, would you.

1078
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: And that, I think is as similar with the red

1079
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: wine being good for you, or alcohol a certain level

1080
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 5: being good for you. Why would you ever get in

1081
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: that poll full of ravenus sharks? Just you exercise without it.

1082
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 4: Sharks can't live in a pool.

1083
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: He was talking about. He wasking about salinate a salinated

1084
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: fool Donald, it was a pool for sharks. It wasn't.

1085
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 4: Let's take a break.

1086
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words.

1087
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: Too.

1088
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Well, do you have any questions while I'm thinking of

1089
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: any other good ones for him?

1090
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1091
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: My questions were, so after you made this big change

1092
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: and it's changed your whole life, and now you're not

1093
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: just bringing it to people, but you're training other people

1094
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: on how to like dispense this information.

1095
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: You do like life coach training, Right, how did you

1096
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: get into that? And then like.

1097
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: To me, I think like I do a lot of

1098
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: run a mentorship program at iHeart, and it's been like

1099
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: one of the most fulfilling things of my life. Has

1100
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: completely changed how I cracked my projects. I find myself

1101
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: giving them lessons where I'm like, I need to document

1102
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 3: that for myself and do for myself. And I was

1103
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: just wondering, like teaching people how to life coach, how

1104
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: has that impacted your life?

1105
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's a lovely question because a big part

1106
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 5: of what I do now is coaching and that all

1107
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: came from the experience of taking a break from alcohol.

1108
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: So I was a broker back in the day, and

1109
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 5: over the last ten years have gravitated away from that

1110
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 5: because I think when someone goes on this alcohol free

1111
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: adventure or spends time on the fun side of the island,

1112
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: like I like to describe it, there's essentially want to

1113
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 5: give it back, you know that real I didn't know

1114
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 5: what it was.

1115
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 4: It was this tug to.

1116
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: Give this thing back, which led me into training as

1117
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 5: a coach, which led me on this beautiful journey of

1118
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 5: now I train coaches, executive coaches, business coaches, life coaches,

1119
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 5: but then add the specialism of alcohol free performance coaching

1120
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Speaker 5: because what I've figured out is, over all these years

1121
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: and I've been so lucky, I've trained some amazing actors, actresses,

1122
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 5: some of the best in the business, athletes, and always

1123
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 5: the foundation of alcohol free performance training because what I

1124
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 5: figured out is if they're middle lane drinkers and they

1125
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 5: take a break, they're going to get amazing results.

1126
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Speaker 4: Anyway, So I.

1127
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 5: Look like a bit of a here. Oh they get

1128
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 5: incredible results really because they've just stopped drinking. Plus you know,

1129
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 5: there's a bit of coaching around it, but that helps

1130
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 5: people get great results. So it's a big part of

1131
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 5: what I do now is actually help other people and

1132
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 5: train them to do exactly the same thing. To share

1133
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 5: this message far and wide is the mission.

1134
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you because you really did

1135
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: make a difference in my life. I am one of

1136
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: those people who heard you, and I'm hoping all of

1137
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: the hundreds of thousands of people that will hear this

1138
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: within there, there's a group of people that are going

1139
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: to try this and it will make a difference in

1140
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: their life. And I really did feel I really do

1141
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: as I'm playing with this and taking on this challenge,

1142
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: I really do feel better, most importantly in my mental health.

1143
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: That's really important.

1144
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: And you, yeah, that's one thing I just want to

1145
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: talk about. We talked about the physical things, but I

1146
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: noticeably feel less anxious and less depressed as someone who

1147
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: battles those things. And I just want to acknowledge you

1148
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: for being an advocate for this because some people will

1149
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: hear this and go great. Not for me, but there

1150
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: are that are going to hear it and go let

1151
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: me try, let me, let me see what they're talking about.

1152
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you for being so

1153
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: vocal about it all.

1154
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's that's lovely to hear. And what is

1155
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 5: wonderful for me is more people like yourself with your

1156
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 5: incredible profile sharing a new message because it is a

1157
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 5: fresh message about taking breaks from alcohol as more of

1158
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: a middle lane drinker. And I think that's such an

1159
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 5: important message to share because for years we've had that

1160
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 5: one story. It's been very black and white when it

1161
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 5: comes to alcohol. You've ever got a problem or you have.

1162
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: I think you were the first person I ever has

1163
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: speak on it so eloquently, and that's exactly what it was.

1164
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: And you just did it again, because that's what it was.

1165
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: It was in my life, it was you either have

1166
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: a problem and need AA or another program, or you

1167
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: don't drink or whatever, and then and then or you're

1168
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: just a middle lane person. And there was no there

1169
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: was no message for the middle lane people ever.

1170
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: And now even when you go to your doctor, your

1171
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 4: doctors even like how many drinks do you have a week? Two?

1172
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: You're good, don't worry about it.

1173
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's lying when they say two too.

1174
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. Truth.

1175
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: But no one ever addressed like to to me like, hey,

1176
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: I never had it, I never digested it until I

1177
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: heard you in such a way that was like, why

1178
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: don't you see what happens after a month? Then see

1179
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: what happens after two months, do this experiment. What if

1180
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: you're you're on any depressants, or you're battling anxiety, or

1181
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: you're battling your weight, what about just doing the easiest

1182
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: thing you can do, which is an experiment, remove alcohol

1183
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: for a month, three months, just see how you feel.

1184
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: Just clock it.

1185
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so powerful and that is the message. I

1186
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 5: genuinely believe it. We look at people that are suffering

1187
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 5: from anxiety, a depression. Of course, it's not a panacea

1188
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 5: for all those things, but it certainly cleared it up.

1189
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: For me. I was suffering from anxiety, full blown panic

1190
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 5: attacks at time. I removed alcohol. That disappeared out my life.

1191
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 5: And you know, someone that's experienced that, it's stabilitating and

1192
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: it went, it vanished for me. I see that all

1193
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 5: the time in our relationships. There's research out of Ireland

1194
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 5: that suggests fifty percent of all relationship problems are down

1195
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 5: to alcohol. You know, our relationship counsel's the first thing

1196
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: they should do is have you tried taking a break

1197
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: from alcohol? Someone that's suffering with their mental health? Have

1198
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: you tried taken a break from alcohol? Someone that wants

1199
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 5: to perform better in their job? Have you taken a

1200
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 5: breakrom malcol, be a better parent, be a better partner.

1201
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,479
Speaker 5: Let's just take a break from alcohol. I genuinely could

1202
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 5: list everything.

1203
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: I heard a guy who said the reason he stopped

1204
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: drinking was I wanted to be the best parent I

1205
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: could be. And I knew that if I was going

1206
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: to do that with occasional hangovers and fogginess and grumpiness,

1207
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be me. And I didn't want

1208
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: to be that at all. I wanted to just show

1209
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: up one hundred percent. And I thought that was really

1210
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: cool thing he said.

1211
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 5: So powerful, and it is so true, be an even

1212
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: better parent, even better at the job. I just think

1213
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 5: it's this foundational thing that benty anyone's talking about.

1214
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: I know, and you are, and I really that's why

1215
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to share your mess sage. It's funny you

1216
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: say about I've been watching this really stupid reality show

1217
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: that that I'm obsessed with. It's called below Deck right.

1218
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: Oh now it's stupid. The other day below it's below Deck.

1219
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: They feel bad I feel although I'm during the strike,

1220
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm all, they would prefer I promote a reality show

1221
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: than a scripted show. So I will just say but

1222
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: here's and it's just it's just fun. It's it's it's

1223
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: it's a stupid reality show. It is. It's a but

1224
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: but here's one thing I saw, just from someone who's

1225
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: experimenting with not drinking. You're watching this show, right, and

1226
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: granted it's a heightened reality. They're meant to drink and

1227
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: party and and get into hijinks, but every I'm laughing.

1228
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there laughing to myself, going, every single one

1229
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: of these problems that these people are having is related

1230
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: to alcohol. They go out, they get hammered, they make

1231
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: bad choices, they hook up with someone they're not supposed to,

1232
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: They get in fights. The next day, they're hungover, they

1233
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: have to work, they're grumpy, they're crying, they're calling their mom,

1234
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 1: they're sad, they're homesick. The captain's mad at them because

1235
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: they're not performing. And I'm sitting there laughing, going, you

1236
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: realize this wouldn't even be a show if they pulled

1237
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: out the alcohol like they're they're there's no show.

1238
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: No show, and there have a dream brow they are.

1239
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like all of the drama and this

1240
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: is just in a heightened reality reality show, obviously, but

1241
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: all of the drama and all of their crying and

1242
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: all of their fights and all of their shame is

1243
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: solely removed when you pull alcohol out of the show.

1244
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: That's just a microcosm of society, right, Bachelor and.

1245
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: Paradise, Bachelor in Paradise without that bar, real talk.

1246
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 5: And this is the thing, isn't it? That is a

1247
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: reflection of real life, rightave it. People are suffering on

1248
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 5: a huge scale and they've got no idea that actually

1249
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 5: it's alcohol. They're looking in all the wrong places, their ice, barfing,

1250
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 5: and they're trying to do all these other beautiful things

1251
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 5: while still you know, colffing veno collapso like it's going

1252
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 5: out of fashion and wondering why they feel a bit down,

1253
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 5: a bit deflated.

1254
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: They're as.

1255
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: Just remove our final message and thank you so much

1256
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: for coming on is just if you, if you're curious,

1257
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: try this out. You can go to the dry app,

1258
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: dr y y or very simply. The way I used

1259
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: to do this when I would take a month or

1260
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: two off is just get a paper calendar and I

1261
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: would buy stickers and every day I didn't drink and

1262
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: put a sticker on the calendar and that's a very

1263
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: simple way to do it, and and just you know,

1264
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: try it for a month and just see how you feel.

1265
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: You'll feel better. There's there's no way you're not going

1266
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: to feel better. That's that feeling. There's not an option.

1267
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that you wouldn't feel better.

1268
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's it's so true, And that's my message.

1269
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 5: It's just try it. Imagine if all of those results

1270
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 5: and benefits that we've all shared tonight are waiting for

1271
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 5: you, you won't known to try.

1272
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: You know what this is really for. This message is

1273
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: really for a person that's out there. It's like, but dude,

1274
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: I barely drink. Yeah, that's who this message is for

1275
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 4: right now, you listening right now? That thought that immediately

1276
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: when you heard this, Dude, I barely drink. I think

1277
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: the message for you.

1278
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: I think the message is also for someone who I

1279
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: guess what I wish someone had said directly to me,

1280
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: and you did in a lot of ways, Andy, but

1281
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: the tailor made for me would be you're trying all

1282
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: of these things. You're trying therapy, you're trying exercise, you're

1283
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: trying cold plunge, you're trying sauna, you're trying meditation, all

1284
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: of these things to feel better. You're forgetting the thing,

1285
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: the depressant that you're drinking several times a week. You're

1286
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: forgetting the poison that several times a week you're injecting

1287
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: into your bloodstream. Why haven't you tried removing that?

1288
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1289
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: There is That's it, and I think that's the big message.

1290
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 5: Do it for a while and if you feel great,

1291
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 5: keep going.

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Speaker 4: Andy, we are you're trying to pitch freaking advertising campaign

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Speaker 4: slogans for you, Zach and I here, you know who

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Speaker 4: this message is, for this message, for this persion, Zach,

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Speaker 4: sit you tried this, You tried.

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Speaker 1: That's honest.

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Speaker 4: I'm not pitching anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any fucking thing to gain other than

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Speaker 1: hopefully helping other people in a way that Andy on

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Speaker 1: the Ritual podcast helped me. That's my only hope. So dude,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, Andy for coming on, and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Sane for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, thunderus applause, Donald's.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Daniel is getting married right now. I'm sorry you

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Speaker 4: missed us.

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Speaker 1: Daniel's getting hammered right now, is right now? We speak

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Speaker 1: as we speak, all right, Anie, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: thank you, brother.

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Speaker 4: A great guest's grateful, very inspirational.

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Speaker 1: I know that's why I wanted to share. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to share him because because he speaks so eloquently on

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Speaker 1: the topic and h and he's just a really wonderful person.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's our show. Everybody, Joelle, anything we need

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Speaker 1: to tell them, we love them.

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Speaker 2: We do love you guys, and we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Oh and and we're gonna get a sex therapist, right Joel.

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Speaker 1: That was part of sex Tober.

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Speaker 3: We are doing a pre interview on a couple who

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Speaker 3: are both sex therapists.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love that. Is there a way since we're

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Speaker 4: doing sex Tober, is there a way that we can

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Speaker 4: get the sex therapist on This might be not what

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Speaker 4: they want, but the sex therapist on what the the

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Speaker 4: couple that was cock.

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Speaker 1: Holding, No, that's first of all, it's not cock holding.

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Speaker 1: It's cuckolding.

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Speaker 4: Cuckolding.

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Speaker 1: But they don't that couple doesn't want help. They they're fine,

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Speaker 1: that ship's worked out.

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Speaker 4: So he's not happy. I'm gonna put it out.

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't know that. I think we we don't

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Speaker 1: know that he might be turned on by it. Everybody

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Speaker 1: has their thing. Donald just like you're turned on by

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Speaker 1: fucking Darth Vader. He might be turned on by his wife.

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Speaker 4: By Darth Vader.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, would you watch Star Wars porn?

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Speaker 4: No, it'll ruin Star Wars for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Donald, count out.

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Speaker 4: You're not sure. We made about a bunch of dogs

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Speaker 4: and said he's the stories. So YadA

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Speaker 6: Yeada h