1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Actually I saw a trombone player doing the solo for 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Hotel California, and trombon is like, this guy is a 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: great player, but I can't imagine a sewer pipe players 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: who he's. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Playing no Hotel. So I watched it. 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to episode four seventy with Don Felder, formerly of 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: the Eagles. He spent twenty seven years with the Eagles. 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: He's the. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: Hotel California. Boom M. I got a text from him 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: after this. Really yeah. So Don Felder, by the way, 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: is like as royalty in the history of rock and 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: roll music. Goes like he's one of those guys. So 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: I got a message. They were like, hey, Don Felder 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: would like to have your cell phone number. And I 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: weigh that out and I go, well, I don't really 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: give anybody a number, but two, I go, but Don 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: Felder's never asked. So I was weighing it and I 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: was like, it's Don Felder. It's not like he's gonna 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: be hitting me up all the time. He's way cooler 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: than I am. So he's and I think he was 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: super cool. So I was like, go ahead and give 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: him a number, and so he texted me and I 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: don't think I am uh, you know, by jumping any boundary. 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: You want to hear what he said. I do want 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: to hear. Hey, Bobby, don Felder here. Been a little 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: slow to text, but came home on Sunday. Leave again 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: very soon. I've done thousands of interviews and I've been 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: asked some of the same questions thousands of times, but 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: your questions were so different and unique. I really enjoyed 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: our chat. Thank you so much for having me on 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: your podcast. Hope to stop it again next year when 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: we're on tour. If you ever want to come to 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: a show, please let me know. We'd love to have 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: you out and your crew as guests. Next time. I'll 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: bring a guitar so we could do a little picking 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: and grinning. 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: That's awesome that someone's like, I've an interviewed a bunch 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: and you're weird. That's how I, in an unhealthy way, 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: took it at first, But no, it's a compliment. I 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: loved it. It was super cool to have Don Felder in. 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: Check his Instagram out Don Felder music again. He spent 43 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: twenty seven years with the Eagles. He is on tour 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: until December. He released a record wrote to forever in 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I don't know. I mean, he's just out. 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: He's still killing it. He's like funny and with it. 47 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: And I don't even know. I guess I didn't know 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: how old I thought he would be. 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: Is he seventy? 50 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: I think so still looks like a rock star. Yeah, 51 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: Like he looks cool, Like he's not trying extra hard 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: to look cool because that's how it used to look. 53 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: He just looks like a cool version of what you 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 3: think he would look like now, if that makes sense. Yeah, 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Don Felder here, he is formerly of the Eagles. This 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: was a really cool interview. Dona have about five thousand questions. 57 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you came in. Been a fan 58 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: for a long time, like just of your individual story 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: and then obviously you're the group story of you with 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: the Eagles and then post as well. It's like three 61 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: different versions. Do you feel like you've lived three different careers? 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 3: Because I feel like Eddie and I were talking about 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: it earlier, we feel like it's like three different version 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: of an artist. You feel that way about yourself? 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: I do. 66 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: It's actually, you know, growing up in Gainesville and being 67 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: in an environment that musically doesn't exist. I mean, they 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: had a white radio station that would only play white 69 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: artists on the radio station growing up, But at night 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: I could dial in WLAC in Nashville, Tennessee, and I 71 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: could hear Little Richard screaming tooty fruity, and I could 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: hear BB King, and I could hear Albert King. So 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I'd just beglued that radio. And they had a thing 74 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: called Randy's Record mart I don't know ifnybody even remembers that. 75 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: If you heard someone on that radio station that you liked, 76 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: you could put a dollar or two dollars. I think 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: it was in an envelope with your return address, and 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: you could mail it to Reddy's Record mark. Then every 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: day you'd start checking the mailbox. This is like the 80 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: way used to download back in those days. That's funny, 81 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: like super'slow Wi Fi. And finally the record would come 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: with forty five by BB King, and I'd put it 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: on a turntable and record it on a reel to 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: reel tape recorder. It's seven and a half inches per second, 85 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and then once it was recorded, I'd slow it down 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: to three and three quarters so I could hear the motions. 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: I can hear the notes and the style of the playing. Yeah, 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: but it's an ocative down, but you can hear the 89 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: notes as he's going through it. You figure that out 90 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: and then you can put it back up to speed 91 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: and try to get your chops. 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: Up to play it at the same speed he did. 93 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: So you know, I got a call the other day, 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: all about a year ago from the CEO of Gibson 95 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: Company and he was at a NAM show down in 96 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Dallas and he says, don you got to hear this 97 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: guy play Hotel California solo. I was like, oh, really, 98 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: I got to hear it again. I said, okay, put 99 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: him on. So this person starts playing and it's just amazing. 100 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: He's got a note for note, vibratos in the right place, 101 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: the tempos, the harmonies, the whole ending solo is amazing. 102 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I said, who is that and he said it's a. 103 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Ten year old boy. 104 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: I went, no, oh kidding, So I said, put him 105 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: on the phone. I had him tell me how he 106 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: learned that. How did you learn that? I didn't even 107 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: have a guitar until I was ten, and this guy's 108 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: ripping through hotel he said. I got an iPad and 109 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I went on and watched you playing live, and I 110 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: watched your fingers until I could speed it up to 111 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: where I could play with He did your version of that. 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Just with today's technology, that's right, exactly right. But back 113 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: then that was the only way to learn. We didn't 114 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: even have a music story Gainsville when we grew up, 115 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: so the only way you could learn is by your ear. 116 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: So Christapleton's a decent friend of mine, and his song 117 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: gets covered all the time. A lot of a songs do, 118 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: but like Tennessee Whiskey, which is not his song but 119 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: one that he covered and repopular and gets covered all 120 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: the time. Are people constantly wanting you to hear covers 121 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: of your songs? Like don listen to this? Does that 122 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: happen a lot where I's like, listen to this player? 123 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: Or not so much anymore, it happens a lot. 124 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Just if I'm going through Instagram or Facebook or something, 125 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: there's all your TikTok. There's people that want to show 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: me that they can play my solo, which is really flattering. 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's not an easy solo by any stretch 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: of the imagination, but it is flattering for that many 129 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: people to try to attempt there's Actually I saw a 130 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: trombone player doing the solo for Hotel California on trombone. 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is a great player, but 132 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I can't imagine a sewer pipe player. 133 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Who was playing. 134 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: An hotel. 135 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: So I watched it. 136 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: Did you write about like when you wrote that We're 137 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: on the beach? 138 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: Like? 139 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Where did that come to you? 140 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: Like that? 141 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: Because it wasn't written as part of the whole song, right, 142 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: didn't you write the intro to that song just kind 143 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 3: of by itself. 144 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: What happened was I had rented a house on a 145 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: beach in Malibu. I had two little kids, one was 146 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: about a year old and one was like two and 147 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: a half. 148 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: And I was sitting on the couch. 149 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: It was just a beautiful sunny California day and the 150 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: sun was glistening on the surf as it's coming in, 151 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: and my kids were in the sand on the swing set, 152 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: and so I have this guitar, acoustic guitar, and I'm 153 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: just sitting there and I start playing this chord for 154 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: great and about three or four times through the progression, 155 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: I said I have to go in the back bedroom 156 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: and record a little bit of it because if I 157 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: don't record it tomorrow, I'll go what was that thing 158 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: that was? So I run in a back bedroom record 159 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: about I don't know, two or three times through the 160 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: verse progression and just put it away. It was actually 161 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: my one year old daughter's bedroom was my recording studio, 162 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: fact that when she was away playing I could go 163 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: in and Mike write demos and stuff anyway, So I 164 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: recorded that, and then we started writing song ideas for 165 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: the album that was untitled at the time that was 166 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: going to be Hotel California. So I wound up writing 167 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen complete basic tracks where I would go 168 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: in and take an idea like that little progression, and 169 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: I'd fill it out and write a chorus part to it, 170 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: and I'd play bass on it. And I had a 171 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: little rhythm rhythm drum machine called a rhythm ace that 172 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: you used to see on piano players and bars that 173 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: they could set it to a chachaar send it to 174 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: a beat. So I used that, and then I just 175 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: overdubbed a bunch of stuff on this little four track 176 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: tape recorder three to one, then fill up two more 177 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: tracks and bout those three to one, and so it 178 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: was mono at the time. As a matter of fact, 179 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: I just I should have brought my laptop because I 180 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: have a digital copy of it. I could play a 181 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: little bit of it, and it sounds I played the 182 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: beginning with a twelve string and then these electrics coming 183 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: on the solo at the very end is pretty much 184 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: like it is on the record, with the except exception 185 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: of some walshisms. When Joe and I played together, we 186 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: came up with just great, unique stuff. So I put 187 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: that idea on a cassette with like fifteen or sixteen 188 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: other song ideas. One became Victim of Love, and Henley 189 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: liked that one that sounded like a Mexican reggae and 190 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: so he was off and running writing lyrics to that 191 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: song and came up with the lyric idea and lyrics 192 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: for a Hotel California, which was on top of that 193 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: music bed. So that's kind of how that all came together. 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: And I didn't want to get you out right your book. 195 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: As soon as it came out, Like the week it 196 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: came out, I devoured it like I'm a literal fan. 197 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: I knew the story about the beach. I was like, 198 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, I think it's a Beach, But I 199 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: knew because I as soon as that book came out, 200 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: I crushed. And it's really one of my favorite like 201 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: music bio books ever, and I think it represents again 202 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: we're just talking about back in your childhood, like Gainesville, Florida, 203 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 3: what was your environment. What were you surrounded by musically 204 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: in Gainesville that even created an interest to want to 205 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: hear music that wasn't the typical white music that you 206 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: got there, Like where was that coming from? Like that 207 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: desire to learn and be around different kinds of music. 208 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: There was nothing else to do. There was no internet. 209 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Television had three channels, you know, it's ABC, NBCCBS, and 210 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: then they went off the air shortly after Sunset played 211 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: The Starspangle by International Anthem. 212 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: I was telling one of our people here like I 213 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: caught the tail end of that in my life, and 214 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: they were like, what the channel would go off? I 215 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, and then I'm gonna show the screen 216 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: of his hold. Yeah. 217 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: And there was no really individual entertainment you could do, 218 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: so I wound up getting a guitar and just trying 219 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: to figure out how it. 220 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: Worked and how'd you get the guitar? 221 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: What did they There was a kid that lived across 222 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: the street from me, and up in the top of 223 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: one of his closets, I saw an acoustic guitar and 224 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: it had some broken strings on it. And my brother 225 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: and I had just come back down from South Carolina 226 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: and my favorite uncle had given us a box of 227 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: cherry bombs, and we hit him in the trunk from 228 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: my dad. My dad wouldn't let us play with those things. 229 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: So when it would rain. We lived on a dirt 230 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: road that was crowned and there was a ditch on 231 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: both sides of the road for all the Florida run off, 232 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: and to get from the road to your house, there 233 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: was a big metal culvert that the water would run 234 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: through underneath the driveway. So when it was raining and 235 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: we would run out with these cherry bombs, light them 236 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: and throw them upstream and tie them so they would 237 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: float down into that culvert and then boom, blow up, 238 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: and everybody would come running out to see what was 239 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: going on, and we would be back in the house hiding. 240 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: So this kid comes out doing and he says, oh, 241 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: it's some of those cherry bombs. And I said, well, 242 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll give you a handful of these cherry bombs if 243 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: you can get me that guitar that you have. We'll 244 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: make a trade. So he runs back to his house, 245 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: gets his guitar, brings it over. I give him the 246 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: cherry bombs. Fifteen minutes later, cherry bombs are gone. But 247 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I got a guitar. We didn't have any money. That 248 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: was the only way we could get started. 249 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: Did you have an intro or was it like a 250 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: natural knack with learning music or hearing music and being 251 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: able to find the notes, and also you have to 252 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: learn how to tune a guitar, which is difficult, Like, 253 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: how did that education happen with you? 254 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Well, once I had a guitar, I didn't even know 255 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: how to begin, where to begin. So there was a 256 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: guy that lived about two or three blocks around the 257 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: corner from me that I'd ride by his house on 258 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: my bike and I'd see him sitting on his porch 259 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: playing guitar. So I went over to his house one 260 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: day with that guitar and it was missing two or 261 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: three strings, and he said, well, you got to get 262 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: some strings for this. I said, well, where do I 263 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: get strings? He says, you got to go up to 264 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: the drug store. There was no music store, so the 265 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: drug store had these black diamond guitar strings, and you 266 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: could buy one two or I had to buy three. 267 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: So I had to get enough money mow and lawns 268 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: and washing my brother's car and stuff to be able 269 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: to go out and buy some strings. I took the 270 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: strings and the guitar over to this guy's house. He 271 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: showed me how to string the guitar and showed me 272 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: how to tune it, and then he taught me this 273 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: song called Red River Valley, which is like a real 274 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: old fashioned country song. And I was off and running. 275 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I had three chords, C, F, and G, and that's 276 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: all I needed learning F. That's a hard part. Well, 277 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: I was CDG. Yeah, there was no F until later. 278 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: No. I cheated with the four string AF, not the 279 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: full bar or anything. 280 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 281 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 282 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: Do you start playing in Gainesville for your friends? When 283 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: was the first time you played and got paid? 284 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I think shortly after I got I got a year 285 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: or two. I must have been about fourteen or something, 286 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: and I think a year or two into those early acoustics, 287 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: my dad found a family who had bought a guitar, 288 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: a Fender guitar, and a little tweed amp for the girl. 289 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: And she complained because she had to cut her nails 290 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: and it hurt her fingers because it just lived underneath 291 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: their bed. And so he bought it from this family 292 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: and brought it home to one day for me, and 293 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: I was like. 294 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: My god, this is amazing. 295 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: And I was imitating everybody, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Presley, anybody 296 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: I could get my hands on to learn their records 297 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: and play a lecture guitar. And then I met this 298 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: guy named Stephen Stills who was left somewhere in Florida 299 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: there was a military academy, like a military school high school, 300 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: who had run away from high school. 301 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: And this is way before he was Steven Stills. Like, 302 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: you just met that's just as a civilian, regular guy 303 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: you meet Steven Stills. Yeah, Okay. 304 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: He and I and Tom Petty and Bernie Ledden all 305 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: went to the same high school. So when we were 306 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,239 Speaker 1: before we got to high school, he was in Gainesville 307 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: and he played in this band with me called the Continentals, 308 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: which a continental That thing was like really cool, you know. 309 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: So anyway, so we started playing but teen time dances 310 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have really didn't get paid. It was just 311 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: for the fun of being on the stage in a 312 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: PA and playing and having a good time. But I 313 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: think the first time we got played Steven paid, Stephen 314 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: and I got in a car and my mom drove 315 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: us to this little women's organization tea party where they 316 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: have those little finger sandwiches and drink tea and stuff, 317 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: and Steven and I would just play acoustic guitar for 318 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: these women. I think we got ten dollars or something. 319 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: We made five bucks apiece, you know, And from there 320 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: it really wasn't ever about the money, to tell you 321 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the truth. It was just the love of playing and 322 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: figuring out music and how does this work? And how 323 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: do you write songs? And how do you know? I 324 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: would get mill Bay guitar books and learn chords from 325 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: el Bay and just kind of self educated all the 326 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: way along. 327 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: At what point, because you're talking about three absolute hall 328 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: of famers, not even just like traditional sense rock and 329 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: roll hall of fame, but like the greatest ever do 330 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: anything musically with Steven Stills and Tom Petty and yourself. 331 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Do you guys all know you want to do it solo? 332 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: Why'd you break up the band like that feels like 333 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: a pretty solid band on. 334 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: Well, Stephen left as soon as he graduated from high school. 335 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: He was one year ahead of me. He left and 336 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: moved to California, and I didn't see him until quite 337 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: a few years later. I think he graduated in sixty four. 338 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Was it to do music though? 339 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: When he left? Was he like, I'm going to go 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: do music or was he just moving to California to 341 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: see what happened with life? 342 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: He knew that was his destiny. He got out to California. 343 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't how happening in the Southeast, it wasn't happening 344 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: in New York. It was happening in California. So he 345 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: was magnificently drawn out to California. And the next time 346 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: I heard him was I was laying in bed one 347 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: night and the radio was on and I heard for 348 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: what It's Worth and I went, God, that voice sounds 349 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: really for me. I know who is that? And they 350 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: said it was Buffalo's Springfield, And I went and figured 351 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: out who Buffalo Springfield was. Was released Stephen. And then 352 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the next time I actually saw him physically, he was 353 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: on stage at Woodstock and I was in the crowd, 354 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: and I went, that's Stephen still side Woodstock. 355 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: So you were there watching, yeah, and you see your 356 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: friend on stage nineteen sixty nine Woodstock. That's right, that's crazy. 357 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: Was Woodstock for you as a fan? Was it as 358 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: like wild and muddy and everything that we see or 359 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: did you get the good version of it? 360 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: I had enough fourth site to actually have gone to 361 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Woodstock with a guy who owned what it's called now 362 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: travel All. It's like the predecessor to a suburban. It 363 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: had box doors on the back that open, so we 364 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: put a mattress in the back because it's out just 365 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, right, and we brought an 366 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: ice chest with drinks and food. And we were got 367 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: there a day early, and we backed in so we 368 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: could open those doors towards the stage even if it 369 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: was pouring rain. We had shelter. We would try a 370 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: comfy place to sleeve food with it. And then it 371 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: was just great because I saw some of the most important, 372 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: I think influential musicians in the history of rock. I 373 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: saw Jimmy Hendricks, I saw Carlos Santana, saw Crosby Stills, 374 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Nash and Young Grateful Dad just on an on Jana's 375 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: job for three solid days. It was probably the best 376 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: music event that ever exploded on the planet. It just 377 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: resonated all over the world. And as a matter of fact, 378 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: I wrote a song about it on my last record, 379 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: about how that event went on to influence decades after 380 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: decades after decades of young people that love rock and 381 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: roll and wanted to learn to play like that little 382 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: ten year old in Texas and became famous decade after 383 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: decade after decade. 384 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Is called American rock and roll. 385 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: That's the title of my last album, And that song 386 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: is about being at Woodstock and seeing the beginning of it. 387 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: When you were at Woodstock and you're watching these great 388 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: artists and you're inspired, but you were in the midst 389 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: of the early part of your music career at the 390 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: same time. Did you have a healthy professional jealousy or 391 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: would you have been like me about like I should. 392 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: Be up there, this sucks? I would say both. It 393 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: was dependent on how much I was smoking at the time. 394 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: If I was smoking, it was pretty mellow about it. 395 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: See, I think I would have been completely jealous the 396 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: whole time. But that's really cool that like you turned 397 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: out to be really one of America's great musicians, but 398 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: you were also there as a fan, probably at what 399 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: was our greatest music event. Yeah, because you have that 400 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: perspective of being a fan and watching it as well. 401 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 402 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: Man, I just think about how uddy it was. And 403 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: he was in a freaking suburban. He was covered like 404 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: he was a d Yeah. 405 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: Don. 406 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 5: So, you know, I always hear about the California sound. 407 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 5: Back then, you talked about that a little bit, and 408 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 5: everyone was going to California to make music. But in 409 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 5: the sixties, you know, you think about California's Beach Boys. 410 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 5: The Beach Boys had the California sound. In the seventies, 411 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 5: you guys had the California sound. Did you ever think 412 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 5: about that? 413 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, because there was nobody except for Bernie Leaden 414 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: that was in the Eagles that was from California. Don 415 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: Hinley was from Texas. I was from Florida. Joe Walsh 416 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: later joined. I think he was from Detroit or so 417 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Glenn was from Detroit. There was nobody in the band 418 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: that had the California sound, but we somehow managed to 419 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: be given the title of the new California Sound in 420 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: the seventies. 421 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you embraced it. You felt like even though 422 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: you know, not really a band full of Californians, Like, 423 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: would you guys the word California sound? 424 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: Well, we were making music in California, you know. 425 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: So I do have to say that when the band first, 426 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: even before I joined at Bernie Leden was a brilliantly 427 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: gifted country musician. He played unbelievable flat top guitar, the best, 428 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: one of the best five string banjo players I've ever 429 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: seen in my life. He played pedal steel, he played mandolin. 430 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: He was just he loved country music. You listen to 431 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: those first couple of early records, that's a really heavy 432 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: influence coming from Bernie and all of those tracks. Right, 433 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: So there was the birth of what I thought was 434 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: early country rock music in those tracks. Later, when I 435 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: joined the band, everybody wanted to move except for Bernie. 436 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Wanted to move from country rock to more midstream AM 437 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: rock and roll radio. And so that's why I was 438 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: brought in to kind of put a harder edge on 439 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: everything that led it out of country. 440 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: How was it joined a group that was already a group? 441 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: What's that dynamic like? 442 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, it was interesting because Bernie and I had been 443 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: friends since high school. We had Bernie replaced Steven Stills 444 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: in the Money Quintet when Steve took off, and so 445 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: I'd known him for a long time and he had 446 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: given me insights into the dynamics in that band in 447 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: quite extensive ways about it always felt like a band 448 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: that was about to break up. So I had no 449 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: idea how long if I joined this band two weeks 450 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: from now, somebody's going to quit and take off, And 451 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: Bernie eventually did quit during the one of these Nights records. 452 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: So do you feel like that helped the creative process 453 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: or at least made it a like a quirky creative 454 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: process that there was always some sort of tension, Like 455 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: was that were you challenging each other creatively because there 456 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: was tension or was it just like that's kind of 457 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: it's just tough. 458 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: I think both. I think there were egos involved. I 459 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: think there were song choices involved. I think there was 460 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: a battle for who was going to be the front man, 461 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: which was really a Glenn Fry originally started being the 462 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: front man from the get go. All the songs on 463 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: the first record were Glenn Fry songs, big hits, and 464 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: then Don Hinley just kind of roared out of the 465 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: background off the drums into singing spectacular song like which 466 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: he Woman and best of My Love and just great, 467 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: great songs. His voice was spectacular. So there was always 468 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: that struggle between those two guys, even though they were 469 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: writing and collaborating together. I was there not to create friction, 470 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: but to help divert whatever their goal was musically directly 471 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: because Don Hilly doesn't write music, and Glenn he used 472 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: to call himself the claw when he played piano and 473 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: was like he could get through it, but he really 474 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a pianist. And so between Bernie's influence in earlier 475 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: on and then when he finally left, and he left 476 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: for what I thought was a really good reason, to 477 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: tell you the truth, he really wanted to retain the 478 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: roots of country in some part of these records, and 479 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: they were just where over country, we're going to move 480 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: into rock and pop and all this other stuff. And 481 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: when Bernie left, they chose to get Joe in which 482 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: I love Joe to death. I think he and I 483 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: had some of the best times together any time on 484 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: the road, And not only that, but the fun we 485 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: had already been playing together and TV shows and shows 486 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: that we opened for Elton John at Dodger Stadium as 487 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 1: Joe Walsh and Friends, and so he and I had 488 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: already been doing that stuff. So when that idea for 489 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: Hotel California came up in that little beach house, I said, 490 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: I had to make an ending on this that Joe 491 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: and I could play on so that we could have 492 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: So I played a solo kind of like what I 493 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: was going to play, and then i'd play something I 494 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: thought Joe would try to sound like Joe, and I 495 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: was like simulating that thing at the very end of 496 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: the record. It was just always so much fun to 497 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: work and play with him, and we inspired each other. 498 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, you think you can do this, 499 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: try this, you know, and okay, Trump, let's put a 500 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: squeak on this one, and you know, just try to 501 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: That was a very loving, fun creative process. A lot 502 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: of times it was over lyrics, and Don Helly is 503 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: a brilliant lyricist in my opinion. He just you take 504 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: a song like Hotel, and each little line is like 505 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: a postcard. It's like a picture of the song on 506 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: a dark desert highway. You see it cool in my hair, 507 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: you can feel it in your hair, a warm smell. 508 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: You can smell khalid As. He just has a way 509 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: to draw these little pictures that lead you to a 510 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: great chorus, brilliant. He's an English literature major and it 511 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: shows and his writing, so I have the utmost respect 512 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: for Don and his skills. That way, his voice. I 513 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: used to say he could sing the New York Times 514 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: telephone book and I love it. 515 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: I'll buy it platinum. 516 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 6: You know, the Bobby Cast will be right back. This 517 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 6: is the Bobby Cast. 518 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: When did you start to get like free guitars? When 519 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: are they like recognized just being awesome and they're like, 520 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 3: we're sending them free stuff? Was it before the Eagles? 521 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: Was it with the Eagles? Because now if you're an 522 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: artist and you're halfway decent, I mean I get free 523 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: guitar sent to me and I'm just we're in a 524 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: comedy duo. When did that happen where you started to 525 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: get like free guitars all the time. 526 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, I really don't accept a lot of stuff that 527 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: people give me because they want the brand, my name 528 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: sure on their product, so unless I really use the product, 529 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: like Gibson guitars. I was just over at the shop 530 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: yesterday and hanging out with Cesar and talking about a few. 531 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: We're doing a tour next twenty twenty five, and I 532 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: like to have new looking guitars that just have these 533 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: monster flames so the guitar players can go, wow, look 534 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: at that flame on that guitar. It's like flame envy, 535 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: you know. It's like you want these guys to just 536 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: drool over their guitar. So I'm going to get a 537 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: couple of new things from them. But I never really 538 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: accept stuff that I don't actually use. 539 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: Did they do like endorsement deals back in like the 540 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: sixties and seventies for instruments? Would they pay you to 541 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: even though you loved it? I just don't know when 542 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: that happened, when that culture started. I know the eighties 543 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: that started happening a little bit, But like, did you 544 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: just find your guitar pay for and you just travel 545 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: with it the whole time? That's just it. 546 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: That was a guy down in Texas named Tony Dukes. 547 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: This is early seventies, seventy three seventy four, and whatever 548 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: town we were playing in, whether it was Dallas or 549 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: Houston or Austin, he would show up with a suburban 550 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: full of classic guitars old fifty nine less Paul's fifty 551 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: two telecasters, fifty seven sts, Gretch's Elvis Presley acoustic guitars, 552 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: and just and I'd buy everything he got. And so 553 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: he came in one day and he had this fifty 554 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: nine less poe, which is my number one less poe now, 555 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: and he wanted twelve hundred dollars for it, and I went, geez, 556 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: twelve hundred bucks, are you kidding me? 557 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. 558 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: So I bought it anyway, and I took it back 559 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: to the soundcheck. I was going to play it that 560 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: night in the show. Figure back the soundcheck and Glint 561 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I opened the cage and Glin went, wow, that's really great. 562 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: Where'd you get that? Said from Tony Dukes? He said, 563 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: what'd you pay for it? I went twelve hundred dollars? 564 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: He went cheap, Like, you're an idiot to pay that 565 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: much for it. Now, it's probably worth well over a 566 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: couple of million dollars just because it's been so documented, 567 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: and I think Gibson put out a Don Felder Hotel 568 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: caliversion copy of it. They did three hundred and put 569 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: it out and sold them. They sold like three days. 570 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: They were all gone. 571 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: Did you still have the original I do. 572 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cool. 573 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's is that your number? What's your number? One? 574 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: Play guitar? That's like, this is the one? Is it 575 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: that one? But I wouldn't travel with that one. I'm 576 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: much cost that's too valuable. Like do you have an 577 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: A plus guitar? That's like, if I'm playing shows, this 578 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: is my comfortable guitar. I like it. This is it 579 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: gives you the tone you want. 580 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: It's funny because I was in my studio just cleaning 581 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: up the other day and I keep finding these Less 582 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: Paul cases and I opened up there's a ninety four 583 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: flame top and oh, I didn't know I had that one. 584 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: And the next thing I know, I have seven Sunbursts 585 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: Less pauls, all in the nineties and early two thousands, 586 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: and you can literally pick them up and they're almost identical. 587 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: That's a good thing about Gibson is they're very just 588 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: consistent from guitar to guitar guitar and the tones up 589 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: are fantastic. So I when we do shows, I have 590 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: five different sets of gear that leap frog and get 591 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: shipped out to different cities that were going to when 592 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: we tour, we carry it all on a semi but 593 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: when we do one off stuff like we do a 594 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: fair and festival here in a private here at all 595 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: up in mon talk and we're down in Atlanta two 596 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: days later. 597 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: You have to use you know, your guitars. 598 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: And stuff and pedals, but to use a lot of 599 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: backline stuff for drums and keyboards and bass amps and stuff. 600 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: So I have gone through and picked out what I 601 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: think are the five my favorite five mess falls and 602 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: put them in each one of those rigs. 603 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: Were all the tones, because I'm obsessed with guitar tone 604 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: and trying to find the exact guitar tone. And sometimes 605 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: it's a tone you can never actually find it is 606 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: it's the perfect tone doesn't exist for certain things, but 607 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: you get as close as you can to it. And 608 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: so I'm obsessed with with the tone. And I was 609 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: looking at just some of the songs that you had 610 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: written and just some of the really famous guitar parts 611 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: and licks, and I'll ask about the song and I 612 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 3: wonder was it the original tone that you or did 613 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: it change as you were recording for example, one of 614 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: these nights, right, So is that the original tone that 615 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: you had in mind for that song? 616 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 617 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: And did you mostly stay with the same tone that 618 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: you would bring it because that was your thing and 619 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: you got it. 620 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: The thing about one of these nights that's funny is 621 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: because I was a really huge fan of Dave Samborn, 622 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, alto sax player, just a fabulous jazz player. 623 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: And he and I used to go fishing together when 624 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: he lived out in Bliboo. Had take him out. We'd 625 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: go fishing and hang out. And so when it came 626 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: time to write a solo for that, I thought of 627 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Dave Samborg, What would Dave Samborg play? What burg? It's 628 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: a sax solo, It's really what it is. And I 629 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: played One of my first bands in New York City 630 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: was a jazz rock fusion band and we had a 631 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: guy that played soprano sax and his phrasing. 632 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: When you're playing a horn, you have to. 633 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: You have to take a break and put a pause 634 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: in your phrasing, where like guys that shred, they just 635 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, they just shred. 636 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: Don't need to breathe through your hands, that's right. 637 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: So I learned to be musically trained from hearing horn 638 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: players play. I loved Miles Davis. I drove from Gainesville, 639 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: Florida to New York City so I could see Miles 640 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Davis play live with Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, Wayne Shorter, 641 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: and Tony Williams. And it was an amazing life changing experience, 642 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: just like seeing you know, Woodstock and seeing those guys there, 643 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: it was like another level of respect. He came out, 644 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: his band's going to. 645 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: Doom Doom, Doom doom. 646 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: He's got his back to the audience right and he 647 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: stands there and the crowd's just waiting for the first 648 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: notes to come out of his horn and he. 649 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: Goes ba ba by three notes. 650 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Kenny g could go play a thousand notes and not 651 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: have that response, you know. 652 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: Take to the limit. So was there ever an acoustic 653 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: that turned electric or an electric that turned acoustic from 654 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: when you wrote it? Or did it always stay with 655 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: how demoitis would be an example of what happens now, right, 656 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: Like goy to write a song, they write an acoustic, 657 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: it's like, man, we don't want to change it because 658 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: we're so in love with the demo. Did that ever happen? 659 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: Because that song feels like to me, it could be 660 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: done multiple, It could be electric, it could be acoustic. 661 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: Talk to me about that song a little bit. Well, 662 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: I didn't write Take It to the Limit, none of 663 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: the guitar part. Oh the guitar, Yeah, I'm talking about 664 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: the guitar parts. I'm only talking about tone. Like I said, 665 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with tone, all right. 666 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: No, Randy wrote that, and he came in with him 667 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: acoustic guitar on it, and I think Glenn wound up 668 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: playing piano on it, if I'm not mistaken. And I 669 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 1: picked up a strat, thinking, you know, you can use 670 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: the straight out without it being a biting, sustaining thing 671 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: and kind of a clear sound to it, and made 672 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: up those little guitar approach that are the intro and 673 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: the solo and stuff to send that. But Randy really 674 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: that was his baby and to hear him sing. Every 675 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: night we did a tour and Roy Orbison open for us. 676 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, and you could be backstage and he 677 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: would sing crying and hit that high note at the 678 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: end of crying. You go, okay, We're on in seven 679 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: minutes like clockwork. Every night the crowd would like just 680 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: roar when he hit that high note. So when Randy 681 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: came out with take It to the Limit. Sorry, but 682 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: we did kind of steal that lick from Roy, and 683 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: it worked every night. Every night that his voice was 684 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: in good shape, he could sing that high note and 685 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: the whole place would just explode. 686 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: What Roy Orbison? Like? 687 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry? What was he like? 688 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: Roy Orbison? My grandmother was such a huge fan of Roy, 689 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: so we listened to him a lot growing up and 690 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: also like the Glasses too, But like, how long was 691 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: he with you guys opening up? Did you have any 692 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: sort of relationship with him? 693 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 694 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean he was their only show. Every night you 695 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: hung out and talk stuff. As a matter of fact, 696 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: his son lives right down the street from my daughter 697 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: now that they grew up together, you know, and our 698 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: friends did this day and Roy was a really sweet. 699 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: Kind of kind person. 700 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: No eagle ego, no attitude, no rock star stuff, just 701 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: a really good soul and he made it comfortable and 702 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: easy to have relationship with. 703 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: So American rock and roll. It was first new record 704 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: in seven years, but it's also now been five years, 705 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: so what's so away? I mean, it's about it's a 706 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: cycle now, Like is another? What are we doing here? 707 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: Anything? 708 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: Were? 709 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: I've got ten tracks finished and mastered. 710 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna record. 711 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: At least two more, if not four more between now 712 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: and next spring release that'll be released just before that 713 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five tour that's gonna take place. 714 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: So is that the Rock Legends the Excel twenty five tour? 715 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: Is that that should? I don't know about that. 716 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. 717 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that's the same. Tours are a different 718 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: thing that that Rock. 719 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: Legends tours is just a one week cruise. It's me 720 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: and Alice Cooper. I think, Oh that's cool. 721 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: God, gota gotta Yeah, so you're going and doing a 722 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: whole tour twenty twenty five. Yeah, what do you start with? 723 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: Like, what do you like? 724 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: What's the first song that you do it? That's so 725 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: important because everybody's ready to hear those first. 726 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: Notes already gone. 727 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: And then what do you end with? Hotel? For sure 728 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: that will be awesome. Yeah, listen, don we're massive fans. 729 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: Like I said when I heard you can buy and 730 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: I devoured your book. It was so wonderfully written and 731 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: to get perspective of someone who had a career pre 732 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 3: during and post from what a lot of people know 733 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 3: you from as the Eagles, but you have all these 734 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: different lives and all these different versions and you know 735 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: musically you're you're such a giant. Like for me, it's 736 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: been super cool to spend a few minutes with you, 737 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: so we really appreciate it. Oh so glad to be here. 738 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Eddie. 739 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: Any final question for don no, don just thank you 740 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: and you're awesome. You're awesome. That's our favorite question. 741 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: That's all we want to say. 742 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: You're awesome. There's no question mark on that one. But 743 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: we are big fans. And thanks And when are you? 744 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: When are you announcing the tour? 745 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: Like what a lot of people come up to me 746 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: and say I grew up with your music and I 747 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: said I did too. 748 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah right, No, No, no promotion to the tour yet, 749 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: you don't. You're not saying anything yet the tour five tour, Okay, 750 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 3: it won't be long. 751 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: It'd probably be another two weeks maybe a month before 752 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: we actually release dates and. 753 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: Have someone send it to me and then we'll we'll 754 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: put we'll talk about it, we'll promote it for you 755 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 3: for coming in. That'd be great. Thank you very much. 756 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: That was awesome. Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast 757 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: production