1 00:00:01,030 --> 00:00:04,110 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywoodland, does it feel like you're stuck 2 00:00:04,230 --> 00:00:07,530 Speaker 1: in limbo, standing under a flickering streetlight at the corner 3 00:00:07,570 --> 00:00:10,549 Speaker 1: of Hollywood and true crime, waiting for the next episode 4 00:00:10,570 --> 00:00:14,980 Speaker 1: of Hollywoodland to drop? I got you. Welcome to Hollywoodland, 5 00:00:15,420 --> 00:00:30,910 Speaker 1: the rap party. What's up, guys? I'm your host, Seth Lundy, writer, showrunner, 6 00:00:31,020 --> 00:00:34,370 Speaker 1: and good doctor here at Double Elvis. And today, hanging 7 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:36,970 Speaker 1: with you here in the Hollywoodland Rap Party, we are 8 00:00:36,990 --> 00:00:40,250 Speaker 1: talking about crime and violence in New Hollywood. We're talking 9 00:00:40,270 --> 00:00:43,570 Speaker 1: about parallel narratives. So we're talking about Bonnie and Clyde 10 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:47,250 Speaker 1: and Point Blank and Taxi Driver, which means we're also 11 00:00:47,290 --> 00:00:50,850 Speaker 1: talking about Jodie Foster. Plus, later in the episode, I've 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,180 Speaker 1: got recommendations for movies that bring the autumnal vibes. Now 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,260 Speaker 1: that we've made it past Halloween, it is time to 14 00:00:56,340 --> 00:00:59,220 Speaker 1: slip into some films that feel like falling leaves and 15 00:00:59,260 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: dropping temperatures. Plus, I've got your calls, texts, and emails. 16 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: So come on everybody, let's party. Over the weekend, I 17 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,060 Speaker 1: watched for the very first time the 1967 John Borman 18 00:01:23,410 --> 00:01:27,740 Speaker 1: crime revenge film Point Blank. and damn, what a picture. 19 00:01:27,860 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I watched it twice, actually. It is pulpy. It is hard-boiled. 20 00:01:32,620 --> 00:01:36,250 Speaker 1: It is cool as fuck. It is a tight 92 minutes, 21 00:01:36,810 --> 00:01:39,190 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that any male screen presence has 22 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:41,590 Speaker 1: grabbed me by the throat the way that Lee Marvin 23 00:01:41,610 --> 00:01:44,590 Speaker 1: does here. So as I was sitting here at my 24 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:47,490 Speaker 1: desk earlier today thinking not about Lee Marvin, but thinking 25 00:01:47,530 --> 00:01:51,900 Speaker 1: about Jodie Foster, thinking about Taxi Driver, her breakthrough role, 26 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,660 Speaker 1: because Jodie Foster was the subject of our fully scripted 27 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:58,740 Speaker 1: and sound design episode from the archive this week. And 28 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,970 Speaker 1: Taxi Driver played a large part in that episode. I 29 00:02:03,980 --> 00:02:06,870 Speaker 1: started to think, well, wait a minute. To understand Taxi Driver, 30 00:02:07,150 --> 00:02:09,590 Speaker 1: I think you actually got to go back nine years 31 00:02:10,110 --> 00:02:13,410 Speaker 1: to point blank. But here's the thing about that, okay? 32 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:18,410 Speaker 1: This is what you've been told. You've been told that 33 00:02:18,410 --> 00:02:21,620 Speaker 1: 1967 is the year of Bonnie and Clyde, the Arthur 34 00:02:21,660 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: Penn film, And when people talk about the beginnings of 35 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,060 Speaker 1: the so-called new Hollywood and the renewed violence of new Hollywood, 36 00:02:29,940 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the film that gets talked about the most is Bonnie 37 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: and Clyde. I have gone years, decades even, without hearing 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: anyone talk about Point Blank, which again is from the 39 00:02:40,820 --> 00:02:44,630 Speaker 1: same year. But watching Point Blank now in 2026 feels 40 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:48,390 Speaker 1: more shocking to me than Bonnie and Clyde ever has 41 00:02:48,570 --> 00:02:51,780 Speaker 1: or that Bonnie and Clyde does now. Because Point Blank 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: is like an electric shock. In the film, characters are assaulted. Sure, 43 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Lee Marvin knocks this guy on the ground at one 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,220 Speaker 1: point and then literally punches him in the dick, right? 45 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: But the way John Borman and his editor, Henry Berman, 46 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,970 Speaker 1: cut the film, it assaults you as well. The edits 47 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:14,190 Speaker 1: are violent. Violent scenes cut back to previous violent scenes. 48 00:03:14,530 --> 00:03:18,290 Speaker 1: The gunshots are traumatically loud. Lee Marvin moves like he's 49 00:03:18,310 --> 00:03:21,429 Speaker 1: the fucking Terminator, which makes sense because To hear John 50 00:03:21,490 --> 00:03:24,820 Speaker 1: Borman tell it, his character, this guy Walker, has been 51 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: so emotionally, psychologically, and physically wounded that he basically has 52 00:03:28,940 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: to become inhuman to get what he wants. And what 53 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,059 Speaker 1: he wants is his revenge and the money that's owed 54 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: to him. Walker is left for dead at the start 55 00:03:37,780 --> 00:03:40,470 Speaker 1: of the film. He's been pulled into this heist at 56 00:03:40,870 --> 00:03:44,230 Speaker 1: an abandoned Alcatraz island, after which his partner shoots him, 57 00:03:44,670 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: takes all the money, and even steals his wife. But 58 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,540 Speaker 1: this guy should have killed Walker, man, because Walker is 59 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: still alive, and he is coming to get his. There's 60 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,220 Speaker 1: this scene early on in the film that is one 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,940 Speaker 1: of the greatest scenes I've ever seen in a movie, 62 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,390 Speaker 1: and it just may be the most propulsive and heart-pounding 63 00:04:03,450 --> 00:04:07,890 Speaker 1: thing I've seen all year, okay, in 2026. Remember, this 64 00:04:07,930 --> 00:04:11,170 Speaker 1: is from 1967, okay? Lee Marvin is walking through the 65 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:14,650 Speaker 1: halls of LAX, past the mosaic murals on the wall. 66 00:04:14,950 --> 00:04:17,540 Speaker 1: He's walking with this determination that, that no one has 67 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: ever walked with in LAX before or since. John Borman 68 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: cuts between Walker walking and Walker's estranged wife, who now 69 00:04:25,860 --> 00:04:29,130 Speaker 1: lives with his backstabbing partner, first as she awakens in bed, 70 00:04:29,290 --> 00:04:31,589 Speaker 1: almost like she can hear him coming. Because what we're 71 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:35,870 Speaker 1: hearing over all of these images is not right away 72 00:04:35,930 --> 00:04:38,970 Speaker 1: is not a score. It's Walker's feet. It's the click 73 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:42,860 Speaker 1: clack of his feet, right? Walking down that hallway in LAX. 74 00:04:43,310 --> 00:04:46,339 Speaker 1: So as we cut back and forth to his estranged wife, 75 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: She gets up. She gets dressed. She puts on makeup. 76 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:53,250 Speaker 1: She goes to the salon. Click, clack, click, clack, go 77 00:04:53,970 --> 00:04:57,549 Speaker 1: Lee Marvin's shoes, right? Now Walker's in a car making 78 00:04:57,570 --> 00:05:00,770 Speaker 1: his way through the streets of LA. Click, clack, click, clack. 79 00:05:01,550 --> 00:05:04,620 Speaker 1: The estranged wife gets home. He's parked outside watching as 80 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,700 Speaker 1: she walks up the stairs outside of her apartment building 81 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,660 Speaker 1: and goes inside. Click, clack, click, clack. She enters the apartment, 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,850 Speaker 1: closes the door behind her, and then boom, the door 83 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:17,170 Speaker 1: is broken down. Lee Marvin comes spilling inside, one hand 84 00:05:17,210 --> 00:05:20,490 Speaker 1: holding out a revolver and the other wrapping around his 85 00:05:20,529 --> 00:05:24,570 Speaker 1: estranged wife's body, clasping over her mouth. The score begins 86 00:05:24,610 --> 00:05:28,210 Speaker 1: to rise frantically as Lee Marvin shoots these. Panic looks 87 00:05:28,350 --> 00:05:31,130 Speaker 1: all around him, his neat white hair beginning to spill 88 00:05:31,210 --> 00:05:33,429 Speaker 1: over his forehead, and then he kicks down the bedroom 89 00:05:33,470 --> 00:05:37,350 Speaker 1: door and he empties his gun into this empty bed. Again, 90 00:05:38,070 --> 00:05:40,940 Speaker 1: the electricity of Lee Marvin and of this film is 91 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: fully charged. And honestly, it makes Bonnie and Clyde look 92 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: a little folksy in comparison. No shade to Bonnie and Clyde, 93 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: all right? But I think it's time to rethink how 94 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,930 Speaker 1: we tell the story of New Hollywood and crime and 95 00:05:54,010 --> 00:05:57,270 Speaker 1: violence in films from the late 60s onward. Because number one, 96 00:05:57,830 --> 00:06:01,650 Speaker 1: Point Blank is cut in a modern, sophisticated style that 97 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:04,900 Speaker 1: still feels alive and kicking. And it even predicts stuff 98 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,779 Speaker 1: like Pulp Fiction down the road, which is apt because 99 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:10,750 Speaker 1: Borman makes this movie as if he's a French New 100 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:15,029 Speaker 1: Wave filmmaker making a hard-boiled American detective film. And number two, 101 00:06:15,370 --> 00:06:18,500 Speaker 1: Taxi Driver, the violence of it all, the concept of 102 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: a man for whom violence is the only way he 103 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: can connect with people anymore, inherits that entire concept from 104 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: a film like Point Blank more so than a film 105 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: like Bonnie and Clyde. Even in Peter Biskin's great, great book, 106 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:35,210 Speaker 1: Easy Riders, Raging Bulls, the definitive text about New Hollywood, 107 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Point Blank and John Borman get some passing mentions, but 108 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: Mucho Inc. is spilled about Bonnie and Clyde and the 109 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,990 Speaker 1: revolution which it supposedly inspired. Now look, I'm not looking 110 00:06:46,029 --> 00:06:49,710 Speaker 1: to rewrite history here. Bonnie and Clyde is hugely influential. 111 00:06:49,750 --> 00:06:52,610 Speaker 1: It's taboo breaking. It was bloody as hell when it 112 00:06:52,650 --> 00:06:56,030 Speaker 1: came out, and it was shocking in its time, but 113 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:57,849 Speaker 1: I feel as though the shock value of it has 114 00:06:57,890 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: worn off a bit, and I wonder if in part 115 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: that is due to the fact that it's set in 116 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,570 Speaker 1: the past, in like the dusty past. But no, that's 117 00:07:05,630 --> 00:07:09,390 Speaker 1: not it. Point Blank is just a more visceral film 118 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:13,270 Speaker 1: and it packs a much more modern feeling. And I 119 00:07:13,330 --> 00:07:16,310 Speaker 1: think that the violence that is located in Travis Bickle 120 00:07:16,370 --> 00:07:19,810 Speaker 1: and Taxi Driver comes more from a place of Point 121 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:22,970 Speaker 1: Blank and Walker than it does from Bonnie and Clyde. 122 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:26,290 Speaker 1: It comes from Borman and Marvin's portrait of this guy 123 00:07:26,330 --> 00:07:30,510 Speaker 1: who thinks that violence will solve everything, that violence is 124 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:33,370 Speaker 1: the only way, that it will get him what he wants. 125 00:07:34,450 --> 00:07:36,690 Speaker 1: And just like Taxi Driver, when we get to the 126 00:07:36,730 --> 00:07:39,710 Speaker 1: end of this film, Point Blank has this ambiguous ending 127 00:07:40,010 --> 00:07:43,050 Speaker 1: that has you questioning, number one, what you just saw, 128 00:07:43,370 --> 00:07:45,690 Speaker 1: whether or not it was real or not. And then 129 00:07:45,750 --> 00:07:48,410 Speaker 1: number two, if it was real, then what the hell 130 00:07:48,470 --> 00:07:52,270 Speaker 1: is happening now? Walker is very much this gray suit wearing, 131 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: black suit wearing, tie wearing dude who literally comes out 132 00:07:55,570 --> 00:07:58,420 Speaker 1: of the past, right? And is rolling through the present 133 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,310 Speaker 1: like a wrecking ball. His muted ho-hum drab suit's contrasting 134 00:08:03,370 --> 00:08:06,650 Speaker 1: against the psychedelic club where a soul band rocks out 135 00:08:06,690 --> 00:08:09,330 Speaker 1: and these trippy images are projected on a screen or 136 00:08:09,390 --> 00:08:11,750 Speaker 1: even back at his estranged wife's apartment where he knocks 137 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:14,410 Speaker 1: bottles off the cabinet in the bathroom and they break 138 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:16,910 Speaker 1: open on the floor in this like Petri dish of 139 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:20,630 Speaker 1: synthesizing psychedelic colors. It's almost like the modern world is 140 00:08:20,730 --> 00:08:23,100 Speaker 1: here to stay and no matter how hard he tries, 141 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:25,220 Speaker 1: Walker cannot penetrate it. He can't make it go back 142 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,940 Speaker 1: to the way things were. Now, I don't think Travis 143 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,770 Speaker 1: Bickle is a stand-in But the lineage is there. And 144 00:08:33,790 --> 00:08:36,150 Speaker 1: this is what gets me really excited about film history, 145 00:08:36,570 --> 00:08:39,690 Speaker 1: is that you're sold a story. You're given a syllabus, 146 00:08:39,929 --> 00:08:43,340 Speaker 1: as it were. Here, go watch these 100 films. These 147 00:08:43,380 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: will tell you the history of American cinema or whatever. 148 00:08:46,780 --> 00:08:49,700 Speaker 1: But then after you've seen all those, you begin to realize, oh, wait, 149 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: there are other titles that didn't make this list for 150 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: whatever reason that are worthy and that tell a different story, 151 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,990 Speaker 1: a parallel story, an adjacent story. a story which perhaps 152 00:09:02,110 --> 00:09:06,030 Speaker 1: converges with this story. And I actually prefer this flavor 153 00:09:06,650 --> 00:09:08,590 Speaker 1: to that one. Maybe that's what it is for me. 154 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:12,130 Speaker 1: Maybe I prefer the flavor of Point Blank to Bonnie 155 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:16,220 Speaker 1: and Clyde. Again, no shade to Bonnie and Clyde. But 156 00:09:16,290 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: Point Blank never faced the kind of problem the taxi 157 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: driver would face, which is this. What happens when the 158 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: fantasy of the psychologically wounded man becomes a real world 159 00:09:24,780 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: script for real violence? If you've Listen to our fully 160 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,420 Speaker 1: scripted and sound design episode on Jodie Foster. You know 161 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: that of which I speak the whole thing with John 162 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,750 Speaker 1: Hinckley Jr. and his obsession with her and then his 163 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,930 Speaker 1: obsession with trying to assassinate President Reagan. If you have 164 00:09:39,970 --> 00:09:41,810 Speaker 1: not listened to that yet, please go check it out. 165 00:09:42,010 --> 00:09:43,630 Speaker 1: I think you'll dig it and see if you can 166 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:47,589 Speaker 1: spot all the written and scored allusions to Taxi Driver. 167 00:09:48,210 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: I want to hear from all you point blank John 168 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:53,660 Speaker 1: Borman stans out there. And something else funny that I 169 00:09:54,620 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: learned doing some like, you know, some gentle research into 170 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,210 Speaker 1: Lee Marvin because I'm just sort of fascinated by him 171 00:10:00,250 --> 00:10:06,830 Speaker 1: right now. There's this secret society, I think it's kind 172 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:10,469 Speaker 1: of a joke, called the Sons of Lee Marvin. And 173 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:14,630 Speaker 1: the director, Jim Jarmusch, is a founding member. And to 174 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:16,570 Speaker 1: quote Jim Jarmusch, he said, if you look like you 175 00:10:16,590 --> 00:10:18,170 Speaker 1: could be a son of Lee Marvin, then you are 176 00:10:18,270 --> 00:10:21,140 Speaker 1: instantly thought of by the sons of Lee Marvin to 177 00:10:21,179 --> 00:10:25,580 Speaker 1: be a son of Lee Marvin. So apparently there's Jim Jarmusch, 178 00:10:25,620 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: there's his friends Tom Waits and John Lurie. Nick Cave 179 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: is supposedly in this group. Other members who have been 180 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,540 Speaker 1: mentioned before are Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth, Iggy Pop, 181 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:44,570 Speaker 1: Josh Brolin, and Neil Young. This is according to Wikipedia. 182 00:10:44,590 --> 00:10:48,210 Speaker 1: The society meets occasionally, ostensibly to watch Lee Marvin films together. 183 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I fucking love that. I would love to be at 184 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: a meeting of the sons of Lee Marvin, but of 185 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,380 Speaker 1: course I could not because I don't look anything like 186 00:10:55,420 --> 00:10:58,740 Speaker 1: Lee Marvin. I think the lack of hair is an 187 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:05,420 Speaker 1: instant disqualifier. Anyways, coming up later this week to get 188 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,940 Speaker 1: back on the Jodie Foster of it all, coming up 189 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,939 Speaker 1: later this week on Friday, a brand new installment of 190 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:14,420 Speaker 1: The Screening Room. I'm going to talk all about the 191 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:17,860 Speaker 1: 1991 Jonathan Demme film, The Silence of the Lambs. a 192 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,060 Speaker 1: groundbreaking horror film, my favorite Jodie Foster performance. And in general, 193 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:24,540 Speaker 1: I'm just psyched to talk about Jonathan Demme, who's a 194 00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:27,740 Speaker 1: longtime favorite of mine. Though I realized preparing for this 195 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,260 Speaker 1: episode that I haven't seen like half of his filmography. 196 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: He made so much stuff before he kind of broke 197 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,180 Speaker 1: through with Stop Making Sense and Something Wild. A lot 198 00:11:37,220 --> 00:11:41,260 Speaker 1: of stuff that he did for the famous indie genre filmmaker, 199 00:11:41,330 --> 00:11:43,750 Speaker 1: Roger Corman, who was very much a mentor to him 200 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:45,590 Speaker 1: as he was with a lot of other directors who 201 00:11:45,630 --> 00:11:49,819 Speaker 1: came from this whole new Hollywood era. Now, serial killer 202 00:11:49,860 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: movies have always been a thing, but I feel like 203 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: they really became like a thing thing, you know, when 204 00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:59,660 Speaker 1: Silence of the Lambs was released. This was 1991. After all, 205 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: it was the year that Jeffrey Dahmer was arrested. And 206 00:12:03,380 --> 00:12:05,900 Speaker 1: serial killers were once again sort of thrust into the 207 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: public consciousness in a way that they really hadn't been 208 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: since their heyday in the late 70s. So the 1990s 209 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,950 Speaker 1: decade saw a lot of new serial killer movies, movies 210 00:12:14,970 --> 00:12:18,540 Speaker 1: like Seven natural born killers. And then in the 2000s, 211 00:12:18,580 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: we had Zodiac and American Psycho and Monster. Plus you're 212 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:25,260 Speaker 1: getting like the TV show Dexter, so many other TV shows, 213 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:28,089 Speaker 1: American Horror Story, eventually all these, you know, that have 214 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:30,730 Speaker 1: seasons now on like Lizzie Borden and Ed Gein and 215 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:34,230 Speaker 1: all these people. So when you're listening to the Screening 216 00:12:34,250 --> 00:12:36,709 Speaker 1: Room episode and thinking about Silence of the Lambs, I 217 00:12:36,770 --> 00:12:39,910 Speaker 1: want to know, what is your favorite serial killer movie 218 00:12:40,170 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: and why? I know it's a dark subject to think about, 219 00:12:42,410 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: but you know, audiences are obviously really into this kind 220 00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: of content. So I'm just curious, favorite serial killer movies. 221 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:55,020 Speaker 1: Let me know. You can call, you can text 617-906-6638. 222 00:12:55,820 --> 00:13:01,340 Speaker 1: You can also email disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Next week, next Monday, 223 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,580 Speaker 1: we are back with another episode from our archive, fully 224 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,140 Speaker 1: scripted sound design, all about Jack Nicholson, one of my 225 00:13:08,179 --> 00:13:10,890 Speaker 1: favorite actors of all time. His run in the 70s 226 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,970 Speaker 1: is just... Chef's kiss, right? And if you're looking for 227 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:19,250 Speaker 1: other episodes to keep you company until then, over in 228 00:13:19,270 --> 00:13:22,630 Speaker 1: the feed of our sister show, Disgraceland, we've got a 229 00:13:22,650 --> 00:13:26,309 Speaker 1: brand new episode that's all about Shannon Hoon from the 230 00:13:26,370 --> 00:13:28,890 Speaker 1: band Blind Melon back in the 90s. If you're a 231 00:13:28,929 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Gen X 90s kid, you remember the music video for 232 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:34,700 Speaker 1: No Rain with the girl in the bumblebee costume. I 233 00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:36,660 Speaker 1: gotta admit, I didn't know a lot about this dude 234 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: until our episode, but it's pretty revelatory, so check that out. Speaking... 235 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,660 Speaker 1: of Disgraceland. And speaking of Jake Brennan, host of Disgraceland, 236 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,820 Speaker 1: Jake is traveling this week. So we have 100% less 237 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,500 Speaker 1: Jake in our episode today. I'm going to be helming 238 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,180 Speaker 1: the Dirty Rex section later all by myself. And what 239 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,020 Speaker 1: do I want to talk about? Well, we've gotten over 240 00:14:00,059 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: the Halloween hump here. We are fully into, you know, 241 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:07,020 Speaker 1: autumnal mode, cruising towards Thanksgiving, and then it's all downhill. 242 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,740 Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk about just movies that make 243 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:11,980 Speaker 1: me think of autumn, movies that are either set in 244 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: autumn or in like an autumnal state of mind, right? 245 00:14:15,780 --> 00:14:18,540 Speaker 1: So I'm going to do that. Before I do that, 246 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,650 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys, your calls, your texts, 247 00:14:21,670 --> 00:14:25,610 Speaker 1: your emails, your comments. But before we do that, I 248 00:14:25,630 --> 00:14:30,910 Speaker 1: got to take a quick break. So chill, lean back, chillax, 249 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:56,130 Speaker 1: and I'll be back in a flash. What's up, guys? Dr. 250 00:14:56,190 --> 00:15:00,380 Speaker 1: Lundy hanging with you here in the Hollywoodland Rap Party, 617-906-6638. 251 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: That's how you get in touch. And let me know 252 00:15:06,020 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: what's going on. Let me know what your favorite serial 253 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,140 Speaker 1: killer movie is, right? We'll talk about that next week 254 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: after you guys watch Silence of the Lambs and listen 255 00:15:13,820 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: to that episode on Friday. This week, I got some 256 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: texts here. I've actually got two texts from one texter. 257 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: So let's do these back to back. This is from 258 00:15:23,420 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: the 843. Let's take these one at a time. The 259 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,180 Speaker 1: first one, hey, Dr. Zeth Esquire. It's Charlie in Charleston. Sorry, 260 00:15:31,220 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm a week late again, but on your question of 261 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,860 Speaker 1: scary movies to watch, this may draw some heat, but 262 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:37,460 Speaker 1: I am a Gen Xer and grew up on the 263 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: original Friday the 13th, which was scary as hell at 264 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: the time. But when I saw the Rob Zombie remake, 265 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: holy crap, Jason is way, way scarier to me in 266 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:50,210 Speaker 1: this version. Is it just me? Also, funny side story. 267 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:53,490 Speaker 1: First time I flew into LAX, I realized and understood 268 00:15:53,510 --> 00:15:55,710 Speaker 1: that where they got the crazy neighborhoods that go on 269 00:15:55,770 --> 00:16:00,410 Speaker 1: forever and are an absolute maze. Anyways, Rockarola and Silver 270 00:16:00,460 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Bullet still reign supreme in all-time scary movies in my book. Hey, Charlie, 271 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,610 Speaker 1: thank you for writing in. I'm just going to say it. 272 00:16:08,740 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: I have not watched any Rob Zombie movies, and I 273 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,100 Speaker 1: don't plan to. They fall into that category. I was 274 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,300 Speaker 1: talking about this last week, I think. They grossed me 275 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 1: out before I even get there. You know what I mean? 276 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,030 Speaker 1: It's like Rob Zombie's got the big beard and it's 277 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:29,500 Speaker 1: like a gross beard. It's not like a... I can 278 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,140 Speaker 1: get behind a beard. I occasionally grow one myself, but 279 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: it's like the... I don't know. It's like the scary 280 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: person from behind the fucking restaurant in Mulholland Drive. I 281 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,739 Speaker 1: don't want to watch a movie that person made. Are 282 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,940 Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? So I'll take your word for it, Charlie, 283 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: that it is scary as hell. Okay, I'll take your 284 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: word for it. Silver bullet. For as much as a 285 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,290 Speaker 1: Stephen King head as I am, I have a number 286 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:58,550 Speaker 1: of Stephen King blind spots. I have not read the 287 00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:00,590 Speaker 1: story that it's based on. I have not seen the 288 00:17:00,630 --> 00:17:04,859 Speaker 1: movie Silver Bullet. I probably saw, it's like Children of 289 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,580 Speaker 1: the Corn. I probably saw a scene or a trailer 290 00:17:08,619 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: for this when I was a kid, and I was like, 291 00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: no fucking way am I going to see that. Hence, 292 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,750 Speaker 1: I have not seen that. Let's hang here with Charlie 293 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:20,850 Speaker 1: for a second. Charlie's got another text here, which says, Seth, 294 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Charlie again. As for the Elizabeth Holmes film, I can't 295 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,260 Speaker 1: even say documentary because she disgusts me. I feel very 296 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: strongly that people like her defraud hundreds of millions of dollars, 297 00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:32,790 Speaker 1: deserves to be treated the same as someone who has 298 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:36,429 Speaker 1: committed homicide. Whether she directly caused the financial downfall of 299 00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:39,070 Speaker 1: one or many, that hardship causes the little people to 300 00:17:39,090 --> 00:17:42,590 Speaker 1: lose everything, including, unfortunately, sometimes the will to keep living. 301 00:17:43,310 --> 00:17:44,949 Speaker 1: Sorry for the rant, but I, for one, will not 302 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:48,129 Speaker 1: watch anything more to do with her or the absolute 303 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:50,670 Speaker 1: scam that Theranos is and the fact that they're still 304 00:17:50,730 --> 00:17:52,939 Speaker 1: trying to do it. No one has learned their lessons. 305 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:55,700 Speaker 1: Much harsher penalties would make these scum think a lot 306 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,260 Speaker 1: harder about trying to do this, but we all know 307 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: that'll never happen when such high levels of money are involved. 308 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: Read that hell you will. Anyways, I had to respond 309 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:05,220 Speaker 1: because I actually got to listen to the podcast on 310 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:09,270 Speaker 1: the day it dropped. Rock-a-rola. All right, Charlie, I appreciate 311 00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:12,290 Speaker 1: your honesty. I don't care about Elizabeth Holmes either. Honestly, 312 00:18:12,430 --> 00:18:15,630 Speaker 1: this is the thing, dude. If you were like, hey, 313 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:18,190 Speaker 1: there's a documentary on Elizabeth Holmes, I'd be like, great. 314 00:18:18,290 --> 00:18:20,659 Speaker 1: I have no fucking interest in that at all. My 315 00:18:20,740 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: interest in this movie came from the buzz around it 316 00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:31,659 Speaker 1: being a very unique movie-going experience and a very uniquely 317 00:18:31,740 --> 00:18:37,270 Speaker 1: structured and conceived film that is arguably unlike anything you've 318 00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:40,050 Speaker 1: seen before. That was my into it. I hear you 319 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:44,609 Speaker 1: on this. I mean, you know, I get it. And 320 00:18:44,650 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, you know, when Theranos was 321 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,869 Speaker 1: sort of like rolling the shit out, in some Walgreens, 322 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:52,490 Speaker 1: wherever in the country, like, you know, there were, you know, 323 00:18:52,530 --> 00:18:54,899 Speaker 1: real people who were getting blood tests done and were being, 324 00:18:55,240 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, getting inconclusive or getting results that, that were 325 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: not true. Right. Because the whole system was fucked up 326 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,060 Speaker 1: and wasn't actually ready for prime time. And I get that. 327 00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:09,460 Speaker 1: I get that as a, as a parent and having, 328 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:11,770 Speaker 1: you know, kids go to the doctor or to the 329 00:19:11,810 --> 00:19:14,430 Speaker 1: hospital and have tests run and being told one thing 330 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:16,869 Speaker 1: and then finding out later that it was a, that 331 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:19,889 Speaker 1: it was something else. Like I get that, like, knowingly 332 00:19:20,270 --> 00:19:23,669 Speaker 1: defrauding people in that way is fucking evil. And I 333 00:19:23,710 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: agree with you. However, the film itself is so fascinating. 334 00:19:29,390 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: And they don't pull any punches when it comes to 335 00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:36,899 Speaker 1: her and her partner there. So take that how you will, Charlie. 336 00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: And if you don't see it, no big deal. No harm, 337 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: no foul. I totally get it. There are literally thousands 338 00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: of other things you could be watching. And you can 339 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: find something really cool. 617-906- got a text from the 610. 340 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: It says, Dr. Zeth, it's your old pal Jonathan in 341 00:19:57,220 --> 00:20:02,290 Speaker 1: the 610. I'm calling for a revocation of your medical license. 342 00:20:02,350 --> 00:20:05,750 Speaker 1: You prescribed us to watch Hereditary, and I did. You 343 00:20:05,790 --> 00:20:08,310 Speaker 1: did not explain the side effects may include fear of 344 00:20:08,350 --> 00:20:11,580 Speaker 1: the dark, inability to fall asleep, and jumpiness at any 345 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:15,859 Speaker 1: clicking sounds freaked me to shut yo mouth out. You 346 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:18,619 Speaker 1: were right. I think Toni Collette is the only person 347 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: who could have done that role, sleeping with the lights 348 00:20:20,580 --> 00:20:22,500 Speaker 1: on for the foreseeable future and rock a roll out 349 00:20:22,540 --> 00:20:25,419 Speaker 1: to your dirtiest of wrecks. Shit, man, I should have 350 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: given you a heads up on the side. I'm gonna 351 00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: start doing that. I'm gonna start giving side effects, okay? 352 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: Watching this film may cause. I'm right there with you, man. 353 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: I've had both of those. I've had all those side effects. 354 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: I've woken up in the middle of the night thinking 355 00:20:37,619 --> 00:20:40,270 Speaker 1: that Toni Collette is... hiding up in the corner of 356 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:43,750 Speaker 1: my ceiling. And, you know, I just got to flash 357 00:20:43,810 --> 00:20:46,370 Speaker 1: my phone light and make sure that she's not, which 358 00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:50,530 Speaker 1: is completely irrational. I totally understand that. How would Toni 359 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,149 Speaker 1: Collette get in my, she doesn't even know where I 360 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:58,870 Speaker 1: fucking live, right? It's impossible. Oh, but I hope you 361 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: liked it. Besides being, having the shit scared out of you, 362 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:07,770 Speaker 1: I hope you liked it. 617-906-6638. Got a text here 363 00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:10,540 Speaker 1: from the 808 that says, for both Jake and Zeth, 364 00:21:10,619 --> 00:21:14,379 Speaker 1: although we missed the appearance date of Devil's Night, October 30th, 365 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: I would like to suggest The Crow for this film 366 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,379 Speaker 1: should be played loud. It's the most 90s as fuck 367 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: 90s movie soundtrack you could have. Yeah, man. Agreed. Did 368 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: you hear? I covered The Crow here in the screening 369 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,660 Speaker 1: room in Hollywoodland like months ago. But that's a good 370 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,610 Speaker 1: call because that takes place on Devil's Night, right? In, 371 00:21:34,170 --> 00:21:38,210 Speaker 1: is it Detroit? I forget now. But It does have 372 00:21:38,450 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: a banging soundtrack, as they say. And maybe that's our 373 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,939 Speaker 1: October movie next year for Halloween. I want to keep 374 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: that in mind. Appreciate that. 617-906-6638. You can also email 375 00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:57,260 Speaker 1: disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Spotify. Those of you who listen on Spotify, 376 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: you can comment right there on the episodes. And I 377 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,460 Speaker 1: took a quick look at these. We've got an opposite 378 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:08,790 Speaker 1: opinion here on Hereditary. from the user VDOT, who writes, 379 00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:12,490 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, Hereditary is boring and overrated. Side note, though, 380 00:22:12,869 --> 00:22:15,490 Speaker 1: Toni Collette is great, and I generally do like Ari 381 00:22:15,550 --> 00:22:17,990 Speaker 1: Oster films. All right, this is what I was saying. 382 00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe, sorry, VDOT, I don't know your 383 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:24,340 Speaker 1: real name, but maybe like you're like a true horror head. 384 00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:27,979 Speaker 1: I feel like I was talking about this like, you know, 385 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: bougie horror film, right? Like Hereditary is a bougie horror film. 386 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:34,500 Speaker 1: because I can't, I'm not down. I'm not going to 387 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,470 Speaker 1: go watch Terrifier 2. I'm just not going to do it. 388 00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:40,580 Speaker 1: So perhaps you're coming from that angle where you're like, oh, 389 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,100 Speaker 1: like Art the Clown and Terrifier, like that's a horror movie. 390 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:47,230 Speaker 1: Or I don't know, man, any of these other movies 391 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:50,330 Speaker 1: that I won't see because they just cross the heebie-jeebie 392 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:54,030 Speaker 1: line for me. And for whatever reason, Hereditary doesn't. And 393 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:56,290 Speaker 1: so therefore that is sort of like my, that's like 394 00:22:56,330 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: my thing. That's like when I talk about the ultimate 395 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: horror movie for me. That's, that's what I see, but 396 00:23:03,020 --> 00:23:05,899 Speaker 1: I totally get how someone, and I don't mean to 397 00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: generalize your taste in movies here, but I'm assuming that 398 00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: you are into some more of your tradition kind of 399 00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: like horror movies. Okay. Also on Spotify, we were talking 400 00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:19,810 Speaker 1: about pet peeves and movie. Beth left a comment, pet 401 00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:23,370 Speaker 1: peeves and movies. Every addict scene has a dressmaker's mannequin 402 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:29,070 Speaker 1: stored up there. Beth, absolutely. You are, There's no reason 403 00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:31,540 Speaker 1: that a thing that looks like a person's body has 404 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,460 Speaker 1: to be up there. Like the attic is spooky enough 405 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: as it is. I just watched a bunch of movies 406 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: for Halloween for October. And I feel like, I think 407 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: you're right. I think like 80% of them had an attic, 408 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:45,939 Speaker 1: which had a mannequin. And what was the one that 409 00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: I saw with Ethan Hawke? Sinister. Did that have a 410 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:53,370 Speaker 1: mannequin that came to life or something? Something like that. Fuck. 411 00:23:53,890 --> 00:23:59,170 Speaker 1: Fuck that shit. Spotify. Spotify. We got another one here 412 00:23:59,290 --> 00:24:03,109 Speaker 1: on our Mulholland Drive episode from Aaron who said, I 413 00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: like Mulholland Drive. To me, Dale Bozzio sounds like Cyndi 414 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: Lauper's slightly less edgy little sister. Add to the playlist, Cowboy, 415 00:24:11,020 --> 00:24:14,260 Speaker 1: Take Me Away by The Chicks. Thanks, Aaron. That's a 416 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:17,580 Speaker 1: great call because, of course, there's that character Cowboy in 417 00:24:17,619 --> 00:24:22,300 Speaker 1: Mulholland Drive. And they're talking about Dale Bozzio here because 418 00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:25,860 Speaker 1: I was talking about Missing Person's and the song Walking 419 00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:29,420 Speaker 1: in L.A. She sounds like Cyndi Lauper's slightly less edgy 420 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,530 Speaker 1: little sister. That's a great take on Dale Bozzio. Love that. 421 00:24:33,869 --> 00:24:40,330 Speaker 1: Over on Instagram, every Wednesday we post, no, yes, Wednesday, 422 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:43,350 Speaker 1: when these Rap Party episodes drop, we post a little 423 00:24:43,770 --> 00:24:47,830 Speaker 1: video carousel of video clips from the movies and music 424 00:24:47,890 --> 00:24:51,710 Speaker 1: that Jake and I recommend. And we got a bunch 425 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: of love for Peeping Tom, the Michael Powell movie from 426 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,180 Speaker 1: 1960 that I was shouting out last week. One user 427 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,830 Speaker 1: on Instagram said, yo, that Peeping Tom movie was insane. 428 00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:08,310 Speaker 1: Chelsea Stardust said, love Peeping Tom so much. There was 429 00:25:08,350 --> 00:25:09,909 Speaker 1: also a lot of love for TV on the radio. 430 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:12,810 Speaker 1: We posted their performance of Wolf Like Me from The 431 00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:16,250 Speaker 1: David Letterman Show. If you're not following us over on Instagram, 432 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:19,889 Speaker 1: give us a follow at disgracelandpod. And we post a 433 00:25:19,930 --> 00:25:22,850 Speaker 1: lot of... A lot of short form video content over 434 00:25:22,869 --> 00:25:25,550 Speaker 1: there that Jake creates that really isn't posted anywhere else. 435 00:25:26,090 --> 00:25:30,710 Speaker 1: Maybe TikTok, actually. TikTok as well. But the Dirty Rex Carousel, 436 00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:33,370 Speaker 1: as we call it, is only there on Instagram every week. 437 00:25:33,890 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: Over on Patreon, Disgraced Land All Access on Patreon, on 438 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,060 Speaker 1: our ghost story episode, member Jackie over there said, my 439 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,379 Speaker 1: addition to your playlist this week, Zeth, would be the 440 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:50,169 Speaker 1: Sublime Ghosts by Japan, hauntingly beautiful. Agreed. I love that song. 441 00:25:50,250 --> 00:25:52,780 Speaker 1: And actually, I did not include that song, Jackie, because 442 00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: I cannot remember what movie it was a while back 443 00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:58,300 Speaker 1: in the screening room, but I think I used that 444 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: for that mixtape. David Sylvain, was that the lead singer's 445 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,550 Speaker 1: name of that band? This song doesn't sound like anything else. 446 00:26:08,619 --> 00:26:11,169 Speaker 1: It sounds like the 80s, but it also sounds like 447 00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:14,889 Speaker 1: it came from the future. And it is hauntingly beautiful. 448 00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:17,649 Speaker 1: Check that out. If you haven't checked out Disgraceland All 449 00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:21,250 Speaker 1: Access over on Patreon, like Disco Jackie here, do yourself 450 00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: a favor. Pop on over. You can lurk. You can 451 00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: be a member for free. You can be a member 452 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,900 Speaker 1: for $ 1 a month. 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This film should be played loud, 463 00:27:01,470 --> 00:27:05,210 Speaker 1: which comes out monthly. You also get more video content, 464 00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:09,430 Speaker 1: like you can watch the unedited version of the exclusive 465 00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:11,670 Speaker 1: portion of the after party every week that we post 466 00:27:11,710 --> 00:27:16,590 Speaker 1: there So, you know, check it out, disgracelandpod.com for more 467 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:20,250 Speaker 1: info and to sign up today. I got to take 468 00:27:20,270 --> 00:27:24,250 Speaker 1: another break here. Take a chill pill. I'll be back 469 00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: right after this. All right, guys, we're back. Zeth Lundy, Dr. 470 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,180 Speaker 1: Lundy Esquire, hanging with you guys here in the Hollywood 471 00:27:43,220 --> 00:27:45,590 Speaker 1: Land Rap Party. This is the Dirty Rex section of 472 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:47,410 Speaker 1: the show. This is the part of the show where 473 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:49,949 Speaker 1: Jake Brennan of Disgraceland typically joins me. And when you 474 00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:53,689 Speaker 1: give you guys three recommendations each for movies and music 475 00:27:54,130 --> 00:27:56,980 Speaker 1: that are, you know, part of a theme, whatever. And 476 00:27:57,180 --> 00:27:59,620 Speaker 1: usually that theme relates to what we're talking about that week. 477 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:03,379 Speaker 1: So Jake's not here. And, you know, I was thinking 478 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,730 Speaker 1: we just made it over the Halloween hump, right? October, 479 00:28:06,869 --> 00:28:09,090 Speaker 1: at least in my household, gets kind of dominated when 480 00:28:09,109 --> 00:28:12,449 Speaker 1: we're watching movies. It gets dominated by Halloween, you know, 481 00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:14,869 Speaker 1: scary movie stuff. It's like if you're not watching a 482 00:28:14,890 --> 00:28:17,330 Speaker 1: scary movie on the nights that you can watch a movie, 483 00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:21,730 Speaker 1: then you're wasting your October Halloween nights. Which on the 484 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,219 Speaker 1: one hand is cool, like I'm down with it. But 485 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: on the other hand, I'm like, I just want to 486 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:26,990 Speaker 1: watch a fucking movie because I want to watch it. 487 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I was talking about 488 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,379 Speaker 1: Point Blank earlier and I watched Point Blank this weekend. 489 00:28:31,420 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: I like snuck that in on like Sunday morning or 490 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:38,270 Speaker 1: something like after Halloween was over. But now that we're, well, actually, 491 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:41,030 Speaker 1: before I slip into this, what I want to talk 492 00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:43,469 Speaker 1: about here, you know, I did watch some stuff that 493 00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:47,650 Speaker 1: I'd never seen before. I watched The Conjuring 1 and 2. 494 00:28:47,650 --> 00:28:49,340 Speaker 1: I liked them both. I think I liked 2 a 495 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: little bit better than 1. You know, I haven't even 496 00:28:51,620 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: mentioned Sir Patrick Stewart, the great Patrick Stewart, who passed 497 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: away last week, best known as Captain Picard on Star 498 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: Trek The Next Generation, also best known for a fucking 499 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:10,150 Speaker 1: hysterical appearance on the HBO show Extras starring Ricky Gervais 500 00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:13,430 Speaker 1: in which he plays, well, he plays himself and, you know, 501 00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Ricky Gervais is like this extra on film and TV 502 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: sets and he meets Patrick Stewart and Patrick Stewart pitches 503 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: him this script he's writing. It's fucking, if you haven't 504 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: seen this, look it up. Patrick Stewart on Extras. It's wicked. 505 00:29:26,140 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: It's like five minutes. It's really funny. But something I 506 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:35,450 Speaker 1: had never seen before was this film Green Room from 2015. 507 00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:42,530 Speaker 1: Directed by Jeremy Saulnier. And... it's about this punk rock band, 508 00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:46,130 Speaker 1: they're on tour, and they go to play this shack 509 00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:48,290 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere that turns out to be 510 00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:53,730 Speaker 1: this neo-Nazi hangout or whatever. And this is not a 511 00:29:53,770 --> 00:29:56,250 Speaker 1: spoiler because it happens right away, but they witness this 512 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:58,630 Speaker 1: murder that takes place there. And then these, you know, 513 00:29:59,230 --> 00:30:02,660 Speaker 1: neo-Nazi types hold them hostage, trying to think about what 514 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,660 Speaker 1: to do with them. And Patrick Stewart is in this 515 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,660 Speaker 1: movie because he's the owner of this place. It's very, 516 00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:12,350 Speaker 1: very much against type. I saw some stuff this week 517 00:30:12,530 --> 00:30:16,570 Speaker 1: in my feed when Patrick Stewart died, Jeremy Saulnier talking 518 00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:19,870 Speaker 1: about how Patrick Stewart literally like saved this film. Like 519 00:30:19,890 --> 00:30:21,570 Speaker 1: this film was about to bite it. And then he 520 00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:25,580 Speaker 1: came along and just sort of like rejuvenated it in 521 00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:28,450 Speaker 1: every possible way. So I'd never seen this before. And 522 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:30,670 Speaker 1: the night that he died, we were like, well, this 523 00:30:30,970 --> 00:30:34,950 Speaker 1: is a Halloween appropriate movie because it's scary. It's violent. 524 00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:38,490 Speaker 1: It's a punk rock horror movie. And it was fucking great. 525 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,990 Speaker 1: And he was awesome in it. You know, you forget, 526 00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:44,950 Speaker 1: you forget. I mean, Patrick Stewart was a classically trained 527 00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:48,770 Speaker 1: Shakespearean actor. And here he is playing fucking spaceman on 528 00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:53,010 Speaker 1: Star Trek and, you know, wheelchair dude who can read 529 00:30:53,030 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: your mind in X-Men. You know, you probably think that 530 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,100 Speaker 1: some days he's like, I fucking do Shakespeare. And I'm 531 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: known for the Captain Picard shit, which I'm sure he 532 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:07,740 Speaker 1: was appreciative of, of course. But it was nice to 533 00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:11,900 Speaker 1: be reminded that the dudes got real range and was 534 00:31:11,980 --> 00:31:14,590 Speaker 1: just fucking incredible. He's great in this movie, if you 535 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:16,530 Speaker 1: haven't seen him. And the other thing I liked about 536 00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:18,090 Speaker 1: this movie is, you know, a lot of times when 537 00:31:18,130 --> 00:31:20,530 Speaker 1: you watch a movie about a band, about a rock band, 538 00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:23,970 Speaker 1: especially if you played in rock bands before yourself, it's very, 539 00:31:24,020 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: it's like the whole, like, um, you know, it's like the, the, 540 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: the coffee not being in the coffee cup. You watch 541 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,940 Speaker 1: it and you're like, this, this looks like bullshit to me. 542 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:33,940 Speaker 1: Like all these people don't know what the fuck they're doing. 543 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: They're playing like a D chord down by the head sock, 544 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,690 Speaker 1: but it sounds like they're playing up on the 12th 545 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:41,370 Speaker 1: fret or whatever it is. Right. But I was really, 546 00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:44,670 Speaker 1: really impressed by how much this band, how much they 547 00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:47,730 Speaker 1: looked like, like a band. And they, and they, they 548 00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:50,570 Speaker 1: carried themselves like one, their instruments, they perform on stage. 549 00:31:51,030 --> 00:31:56,380 Speaker 1: They do, um, Nazi punks fuck off. They do Nazi 550 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,500 Speaker 1: punks fuck off by the dead Kennedys just to sort 551 00:31:59,540 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: of get a rise out of these people, which is 552 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,110 Speaker 1: not what you do. They pay for that one. Anyways, 553 00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:09,070 Speaker 1: great movie, Green Room. But I don't want to talk 554 00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:11,510 Speaker 1: about Halloween movies since we've gone past that. What I 555 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:14,370 Speaker 1: want to talk about is just some quick and dirty 556 00:32:14,430 --> 00:32:19,620 Speaker 1: wrecks for autumnal films, right? Like movies that or either 557 00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: about this time of year, that take place in this 558 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:23,340 Speaker 1: time of year, or just kind of give you that, 559 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,620 Speaker 1: you know, that feeling, that feeling that's equivalent to like 560 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,020 Speaker 1: watching the leaves fall or the temperatures drop or the, 561 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, the grass freeze up or whatever. The obvious 562 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:36,700 Speaker 1: one here to mention, because we talked about Jodie Foster 563 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,290 Speaker 1: this week, is a 1995 film called Home for the 564 00:32:39,330 --> 00:32:41,910 Speaker 1: Holidays that she directed. I believe it was, was it 565 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:46,489 Speaker 1: her directorial debut? Or was Little Man Tate? I think 566 00:32:46,510 --> 00:32:49,950 Speaker 1: it was Little Man Tate. Anyways, This stars Holly Hunter, 567 00:32:50,430 --> 00:32:54,450 Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr., who's fantastic in this, Anne Bancroft, Charles Durning, 568 00:32:54,490 --> 00:32:57,980 Speaker 1: Dylan McDermott, Steve Guttenberg, Claire Danes. You know, it's a 569 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: great dysfunctional family. Like, you know, you go home for 570 00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: the holiday, for Thanksgiving, and your whole dysfunctional family's there. And, 571 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,940 Speaker 1: you know, shit goes awry. It's great. It's funny. It's 572 00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: very touching as well. And, you know, there really aren't 573 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,740 Speaker 1: a lot of Thanksgiving movies that revolve around Thanksgiving. There's this. 574 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:18,530 Speaker 1: There's Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. There's some others that I'll 575 00:33:18,570 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: mention here that do take place at Thanksgiving, but they're 576 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:25,060 Speaker 1: not about Thanksgiving. I think it's just hard. If you're 577 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: making a movie about Thanksgiving, it's probably going to be 578 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,100 Speaker 1: specifically about Thanksgiving. It might be a little cheesy. And 579 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: maybe that's why there aren't a lot or there are 580 00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:35,300 Speaker 1: a lot, but they all exist on the Hallmark Channel 581 00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: or something. So Home for the Holidays is a direct 582 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:41,260 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving film that is worth your time. Another one that 583 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: just feels like autumn to me is a 2000 film 584 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,780 Speaker 1: called Wonder Boy's directed by Curtis Hanson. This is after 585 00:33:48,820 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: he directed L.A. Confidential. This is based on a book 586 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: by Michael Chabon, who I love. I love. He's one 587 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:57,380 Speaker 1: of my favorite authors. Adventures of Cavalier and Clay, one 588 00:33:57,980 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: of my favorite books of all time. But I will 589 00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: say this is one of those rare occasions where I 590 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: actually liked the movie more than the book. This ports 591 00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:10,430 Speaker 1: over some Big Lebowski vibes with Michael Douglas wearing a 592 00:34:10,510 --> 00:34:13,629 Speaker 1: house robe for like half the movie. Michael Douglas plays 593 00:34:13,670 --> 00:34:18,219 Speaker 1: this novelist, who's teaching creative writing at a college. He's 594 00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:21,489 Speaker 1: having an affair with the chancellor of the school, played 595 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:24,250 Speaker 1: by Frances McDormand. Her husband is the chair of the 596 00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:28,430 Speaker 1: English department. Michael Douglas's wife has just left him. He's 597 00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:31,630 Speaker 1: trying to wrangle this wonder kid writer student played by 598 00:34:31,690 --> 00:34:35,529 Speaker 1: Tobey Maguire. Meanwhile, Katie Holmes, who's another student, has a 599 00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:38,509 Speaker 1: crush on him. And his agent flies into town, his 600 00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:40,589 Speaker 1: agent's Robert Downey Jr., trying to get him to finish 601 00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: his book. I just remember walking out of this movie. 602 00:34:43,180 --> 00:34:44,940 Speaker 1: I was living in Boston when I saw this and 603 00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:46,339 Speaker 1: I walked out of it and I was like, man, 604 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: I just want to live. I just want to live 605 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:51,859 Speaker 1: in like a college town, a small college town like that, 606 00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: much like the town I grew up in, I guess, 607 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: just because of this, like it has this like cozy, uh, 608 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,100 Speaker 1: cozy feeling to it. You know, I've been, I had 609 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,589 Speaker 1: been in Boston at that point for five years and 610 00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:04,850 Speaker 1: I just, um, you know, it was like, I want 611 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:06,810 Speaker 1: to slow the pace down a little bit here. And 612 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:10,450 Speaker 1: I didn't slow the pace down, uh, until another nine 613 00:35:10,489 --> 00:35:14,779 Speaker 1: years later. But the vibe of this film was sort 614 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,420 Speaker 1: of like a fantasy for me for a while. And 615 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,020 Speaker 1: then I eventually got back to the fantasy in my 616 00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: real life, which was great. Wonder Boys, great movie. Another 617 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:27,489 Speaker 1: movie that feels autumnal to me, especially the scene out 618 00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:30,670 Speaker 1: in the woods where John Cicero is begging for his 619 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:33,750 Speaker 1: own life on his knees is Miller's Crossing. This is 620 00:35:33,790 --> 00:35:39,670 Speaker 1: the Coen Brothers movie from 1990. Again, this is a 621 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:46,100 Speaker 1: movie with lots of hats and overcoats and everyone's cozy 622 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,970 Speaker 1: and they're drinking drinks and smoking stuff. Gabriel Byrne, Albert Finney, 623 00:35:51,130 --> 00:35:55,150 Speaker 1: Marsha Gay Harden, John Pulido, Steve Buscemi with one of 624 00:35:55,170 --> 00:36:00,450 Speaker 1: the greatest one scene monologues ever. This is about rival gangs, 625 00:36:00,830 --> 00:36:03,190 Speaker 1: Irish and Italian gangsters. And it's about a guy who's 626 00:36:03,210 --> 00:36:07,569 Speaker 1: always losing his hat. But it's very much feels like 627 00:36:07,930 --> 00:36:11,500 Speaker 1: fall to me. If you haven't seen this before, I've 628 00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: watched this a couple times again recently after not watching 629 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,660 Speaker 1: it for a very long time. And it's one of 630 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: the Coen Brothers' very best films. And it's one of 631 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,780 Speaker 1: the best gangster mob movies of all time. It's so dense. 632 00:36:24,219 --> 00:36:28,140 Speaker 1: The script is so dense. The dialogue. What's going on 633 00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:30,180 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You're trying to piece it all together. 634 00:36:30,739 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you guys love this kind of shit. 635 00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: Organized crime films. Great dialogue. Great performances. You can't go 636 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,020 Speaker 1: wrong with Miller's Crossing. Barry Lyndon. Stanley Kubrick's 1975 masterpiece 637 00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,980 Speaker 1: with its exterior shots in Ireland and England just kind 638 00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: of feels autumnal to me. Fantastic Mr. Fox, Wes Anderson's 639 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 1: 2009 stop motion film based on the Roald Dahl book. Again, actually, 640 00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: I think this does, does this take place at Thanksgiving? 641 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: It may. This is like my favorite Wes Anderson movie 642 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,020 Speaker 1: on some days. It's just a, it's a masterpiece. It's amazing. 643 00:37:05,950 --> 00:37:08,770 Speaker 1: The Friends of Eddie Coyle, the 1973 Peter Yates movie 644 00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:14,810 Speaker 1: starring Robert Mitchum as a Massachusetts gunrunner is super autumnal. 645 00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:17,630 Speaker 1: You can also do a Paul Newman double feature. You 646 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:20,190 Speaker 1: can watch The Color of Money and The Verdict, and 647 00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:23,189 Speaker 1: you're going to get smoky bars and pool halls, which 648 00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:27,390 Speaker 1: just feels like fall to me. We also covered a 649 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:30,819 Speaker 1: little while back in the screening room, the 2013 Denis 650 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,610 Speaker 1: Villeneuve film Prisoners. which actually takes place at Thanksgiving. This 651 00:37:35,650 --> 00:37:40,629 Speaker 1: is the one where Hugh Jackman, his daughter disappears along 652 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:44,150 Speaker 1: with a friend and Jake Gyllenhaal is the cop. It 653 00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:48,109 Speaker 1: also has Quentin Tarantino's favorite, Paul Dano is in this too. 654 00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: And I know we covered this already in the screening room, 655 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: but I was just reminded, this is a very, you know, 656 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,460 Speaker 1: it's not a movie that you watch to get all 657 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: like happy about Thanksgiving, but it is set at Thanksgiving 658 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,470 Speaker 1: and is definitely like a chilly, chilly fall movie. Funny story, 659 00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:05,390 Speaker 1: about Tarantino since I just mentioned him. I saw this 660 00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:08,129 Speaker 1: the other day. I don't know how long ago this was, 661 00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:12,670 Speaker 1: but this French interviewer was interviewing the director Jean-Luc Godard, 662 00:38:13,330 --> 00:38:16,990 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, you've heard about Quentin Tarantino, his movie's 663 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:19,980 Speaker 1: coming to Cannes. I'm guessing it was back when Pulp 664 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 1: Fiction came out and Pulp Fiction was going to Cannes. 665 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,180 Speaker 1: And he was saying to Godard, like, you know, he really, 666 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: he loves your work. And he actually named his production company, 667 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,940 Speaker 1: A Band Apart, is named after one of your movies. 668 00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:34,660 Speaker 1: And And do you love him as well? And Godard 669 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: is just like straight up, he's like lighting a cigarette 670 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,739 Speaker 1: or cigar or something while he's waiting to answer. He's 671 00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:44,900 Speaker 1: straight up like, oh, absolutely not. He goes, he's what 672 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,310 Speaker 1: we would have called a knave back in the day. 673 00:38:47,570 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: A knave. Jean-Luc Godard. Icy shoulder for Quentin Tarantino. I 674 00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: love it. I just had to mention that because it's 675 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: just so funny that the guy, you know, the interviewer's like, oh, 676 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: he named his company after you. You must love him too. 677 00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: And he's like, fuck no. Guys, if you want to 678 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: share your recommendations for autumnal films to watch this November 679 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,020 Speaker 1: into December, let us know. 617-906-6638. You can email disgracelandpod 680 00:39:15,070 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: at gmail.com. or if you're a member of Disgraced and 681 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: All Access, just jump in the chat. Hang on, I'm 682 00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:26,029 Speaker 1: going to take one more quick break, but I'll be 683 00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:53,229 Speaker 1: right back after this. All right, Hollywoodland gang, there you go. 684 00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:56,950 Speaker 1: Some Dirty Rex for autumnal movie vibes as we move 685 00:39:57,510 --> 00:40:01,090 Speaker 1: past Halloween and into the middle of fall, quickly approaching Thanksgiving. 686 00:40:01,150 --> 00:40:03,450 Speaker 1: My God, this is the time of year where you 687 00:40:03,469 --> 00:40:05,730 Speaker 1: just go like, oh my God, it's how many days 688 00:40:05,770 --> 00:40:12,390 Speaker 1: until Thanksgiving? So send me your Dirty Rex for autumn movies. 689 00:40:13,110 --> 00:40:15,379 Speaker 1: Or maybe you want to get a jump on this 690 00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: week's question of the week, which is what is your 691 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: favorite serial killer movie? Is it Silence of the Lambs, 692 00:40:20,739 --> 00:40:23,700 Speaker 1: or do you have something else? Sicko question, I know, 693 00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: but let's wrap up sicko Halloween season here with a bang. 617-906-6638. 694 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,510 Speaker 1: You can email me, disgracelandpod at gmail.com, or if you're 695 00:40:35,530 --> 00:40:37,610 Speaker 1: a member of Disgraceland All Access on Patreon, you can 696 00:40:37,630 --> 00:40:41,250 Speaker 1: just jump into the chat. Next week, Jake will be 697 00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:44,169 Speaker 1: back here with me. We'll give you guys some dirty 698 00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:48,110 Speaker 1: recs on Something related to Jack Nicholson and what are 699 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:49,569 Speaker 1: we watching next week in the screening room? I think 700 00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: The Passenger, the Antonioni film from 1975 starring Jack. So maybe, 701 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,980 Speaker 1: we'll see. But I will be joining Jake tomorrow in 702 00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:04,850 Speaker 1: the after party, the exclusive section of the after party 703 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:06,910 Speaker 1: that you can hear as a member of Disgraced and 704 00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:08,950 Speaker 1: All Access, all right? Now that we've gotten that out 705 00:41:08,969 --> 00:41:12,940 Speaker 1: of the way, let's recap. Number one, First of all, 706 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 1: right now in your Hollywoodland feed, our episode on Jodie Foster. 707 00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:18,590 Speaker 1: Number two, coming at you this Friday, we've got a 708 00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:20,830 Speaker 1: new episode of The Screening Room, and this week I'm 709 00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:24,250 Speaker 1: talking all about the 1991 film The Silence of the Lambs. 710 00:41:24,969 --> 00:41:27,089 Speaker 1: Number three, next week on Monday, we're bringing you our 711 00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:30,950 Speaker 1: fully scripted and sound design episode on Jack Nicholson. Number four, 712 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: over in our sister show, Disgraceland, we've got a brand 713 00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:38,379 Speaker 1: new episode on Shannon Hoon. Blind Melon's Shannon Hoon lived 714 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: for freedom on stage in drag tripping at Woodstock or 715 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: swinging mic stands at security guests. From Lafayette to Los Angeles, 716 00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:49,219 Speaker 1: his journey was a beautiful, brutal high until it all 717 00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: came crashing down on a tour bus in New Orleans. 718 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,020 Speaker 1: Check that out in the Disgraceland feed. You can find 719 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,580 Speaker 1: that on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you 720 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Number five, this film should be played loud. 721 00:42:03,219 --> 00:42:07,420 Speaker 1: Our video podcast, available exclusively to members of Disgraceland, all 722 00:42:07,460 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: access on Patreon. Our latest episode on Shaun of the 723 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,219 Speaker 1: Dead is available right now. Come watch us talk about 724 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: the specials, the Smiths, Queen, Melly Mel, and much more. 725 00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: If you're not yet a member, go to disgracelandpod.com to 726 00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:24,420 Speaker 1: sign up today. And now, in honor of this week's episode, 727 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: here's what America was watching at the movies in March 1989, 728 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,540 Speaker 1: the month that Jodie Foster won an Academy Award for 729 00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:37,739 Speaker 1: her role in The Accused. Number one, Lean on Me, 730 00:42:38,260 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: directed by John G. Avildsen. Number two, Rain Man, directed 731 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: by Barry Levinson. Number three, Fletch Lives, directed by Michael Ritchie. 732 00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: Number four, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, directed by Stephen Ehrich. 733 00:42:54,620 --> 00:43:00,660 Speaker 1: Number five, The Burbs, directed by Joe Dante. Number six, 734 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,620 Speaker 1: Skin Deep, directed by Blake Edwards. Number seven, Chances Are, 735 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:14,690 Speaker 1: directed by Emil Pardini. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it!