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Speaker 2: On this week's episode in her Space. I want our

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Speaker 2: community to really start with that you sound like a

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Speaker 2: white girl. You sound like because what that really says

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Speaker 2: is you're equating eloquence and articulation with a race, which

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Speaker 2: is really silly one because everyone we.

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Speaker 3: All have different accents, and it also puts the rest

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Speaker 3: What it's saying is that we are not good enough

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Speaker 3: because we have an accent. Welcome to her Space, a

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Speaker 3: podcast dedicated to uplifting women like you. We're your Costs.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker, in a

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Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, Please

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Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 2: fibroids to fake friends, and create a safe space where

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Speaker 2: black women can just be. It brings my heart great

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Speaker 2: joy to see black women embracing their blackness, natural hair,

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Speaker 2: distinctive features, and beautiful brown bodies. You should be proud

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Speaker 2: of your melanin.

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Speaker 3: Your black girl magic.

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Speaker 2: Thanks right, that's right. And for those of you who

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Speaker 2: don't know, melanin is responsible for determining skin and hair

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Speaker 2: color and its present in the skin to varying degrees

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Speaker 2: depending on how much a population has been exposed to

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Speaker 2: the sun historically. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: When I was younger, I didn't want anything to do

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Speaker 2: with my melanin. I equated beauty with light skin, lighter

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Speaker 2: than my skin, long hair, pretty eyes, as they used

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Speaker 2: to say, in good hair. Cause somebody tell me what

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Speaker 2: good hair is like. Come on, seriously.

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Speaker 3: It changes with the times, apparently.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, But in my opinion, all hair is good hair.

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Speaker 2: You've got hair on your head, it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 2: But back in the day, you know how it was

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh god, you got that nice little curl.

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Speaker 2: That's stilky. Yeah, And growing up being black wasn't cool.

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Speaker 2: I mean the media, advertisements, mainstream companies, and product offerings

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Speaker 2: perpetuated the myth that black women are less than beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Our brown skin was underrepresented in history, met the cosmetic industry,

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Speaker 2: lingerie collections, and Barbie doll options, just to name a few.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember as a kid you probably had a

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Speaker 3: and trying to find Barbie dolls and baby dolls that

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Speaker 3: it also depends on what neighborhood you're in whether or

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Speaker 2: And when you think about it, representation is so important,

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Speaker 2: Like it's important. I mean, ideally you would have a

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember going to the hair store. Actually no,

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Speaker 3: There's nothing there for me, you know. And we've come

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Speaker 2: Way, yes, but we still have a long way to go.

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Speaker 2: And my hope is that our conversation today can remind

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Speaker 2: and why you should be proud of your heritage, regardless

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Speaker 3: Yes, black girl, I will probably say that at least

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Speaker 3: five more times in this episode. I just want us

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Speaker 3: So that kind of leads me to our code of

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Speaker 3: which I know a lot of y'all are going to

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Speaker 3: be going down in Essencepeth's shout out to Girls Strip

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Speaker 3: from Making Essensfest even more popular than it already was.

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Speaker 3: But you should definitely check out Studio B and B.

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Speaker 3: Mike has this quote and I have it on. I

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Speaker 3: bought one of the sweatshirts from the studio and it says,

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Speaker 3: I am my ancestors' wildest dreams. Say that one more

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Speaker 3: when I think about where we are today start a

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Speaker 3: Black History Month, and for me recently returning from a

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Speaker 3: Black heritage trip with some college students, some dope college students,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I am fully aware, fully immersed in

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Speaker 3: like what it means to be black in America today.

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Speaker 3: We constantly, like when I think about, like the conversations

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Speaker 3: we were like kind of prepping for this episode, right like,

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Speaker 2: So you must want me to go on a rent

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Speaker 3: To bring it? Don't bring it?

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Speaker 2: So okay when I think about my experience, right when

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Speaker 2: Yes, I remember being in class and I was the

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Speaker 2: now my accent, I sound like a valley girl. And

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Speaker 2: And I was just like, well, wait, we all look

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Speaker 3: When we get into this negative comparison to one another,

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Speaker 2: Exactly or even less intelligent. It's like, you just literally

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Speaker 3: Pronunciation speech class exactly exactly, multiple speech addiction courses to

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Speaker 2: But that should be celebrated, right, It's like this unique

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Speaker 2: our community we can also have our own allies to

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Speaker 3: Yes, And you know, and that brings me back to

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Speaker 3: thinking about like workplace setting, and you know, if knowing

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Speaker 3: and I use that but generally, you know, I mean

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Speaker 3: stand up for other women in the workplace, right Or

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Speaker 3: if you're that person who tends to be the more

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Speaker 3: quiet type, the more passive type, then and you may

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Speaker 3: figure out where your strength lies and figure out how

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Speaker 3: you can advocate through whatever your strength may be. You

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Speaker 3: may be that person who can go totally off in

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Speaker 3: an email and maybe have people crying tears behind their

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Speaker 3: computer screen. You know, that might be you. But whatever

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Speaker 3: it is, whatever your area of strength is, that you

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Speaker 3: can use to help uplift other women in the workplace

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Speaker 3: or other black people in the workplace. I think that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's so important to just figure out, Yeah, what's your strength.

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Speaker 2: But I just wanted to say, as we as you

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Speaker 2: we still have a whole twenty seven days, and we

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Speaker 2: know that our country, our world is just in this

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Speaker 2: very sensitive climate, and so we do have a post

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Speaker 2: that you can look forward to in the show notes

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Speaker 2: that's all about Black history, but it also speaks to

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Speaker 2: why there is not a White History Month, because I

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Speaker 2: think in recent months years, and you know, recently we've

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Speaker 2: seen people post online, well, why isn't it a white

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Speaker 2: History months?

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Speaker 3: We need a White History Month?

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Speaker 2: And I give you a very great description and overview

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Speaker 2: on why that is not needed, right because we already have.

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Speaker 2: We already have eleven other months. You're all come on now,

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Speaker 2: So yes, take a look at that post if you

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Speaker 2: want to, if you just want to send it to someone,

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Speaker 2: because you know, this is always a tough time of

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Speaker 2: the month for us sometimes because people like to test

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Speaker 2: you and just be strong.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And you can also look at that and

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Speaker 3: think about, well, Okay, here's why we are so dope,

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Speaker 3: and here's why we need to celebrate our dopeness, not

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Speaker 3: just in the month of February, but throughout the entire year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think we should just use this as a start, right,

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Speaker 3: So as I think about, like, okay, coming off of

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Speaker 3: this trip and moving into Black History Month, like what,

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Speaker 3: and moving beyond Black History Month, but just the space

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Speaker 3: that I want to occupy as a black woman in

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Speaker 3: this country, I think that it is so important for

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Speaker 3: us to be aware of our history, our real history, not.

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Speaker 2: The history that she chests in school. We got to

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Speaker 2: do our own reason.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and to learn more just about like the magnificence

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Speaker 3: that we are as a people. And so what I

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Speaker 3: would like is to see all of us throughout the

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Speaker 3: month of February trying out new spaces to learn about

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Speaker 3: our people, right, to learn about our history, to learn

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Speaker 3: about our art, our culture in whatever way works for you.

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Speaker 3: So whether that's reading a book, whether that's watching a documentary.

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Speaker 3: And you know, because it's a Black History Month, there's

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Speaker 3: going to be a ton of documentaries out there. Check

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Speaker 3: up there game too. Go to a museum. I guarantee

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Speaker 3: you there is a museum somewhere near where you live.

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Speaker 3: Even if that museum is as small as a house,

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Speaker 3: provides information related to some aspect of black identity and

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Speaker 3: black culture. And once you check that out, hit up

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Speaker 3: our social media pages and let us know where you went,

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Speaker 3: like share with the community, like where you went and

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Speaker 3: what you learn, so that we can keep spreading the knowledge,

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Speaker 3: spreading that wealth and just embracing our Black people, magic,

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Speaker 3: our black excellence, our black magnificence.

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Speaker 2: Aimen to that dome, and I would also say, and

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Speaker 2: our households every month is Black History Month, but we

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Speaker 2: know that for our you know, our country, this is

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Speaker 2: Black History Month. This is what they call it, but

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Speaker 2: we do black History three six five, y'all you already know.

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Speaker 2: So enjoy the rest of the month and we will

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Speaker 2: see you next Friday.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us today in her Space. Please know

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Speaker 3: that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice,

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Speaker 3: self empowerment, and mental health, but it is by no

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Speaker 3: means meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal

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Speaker 3: relationship with a trained mental health provider. If you or

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Speaker 3: someone you know is in need of mental health care,

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Speaker 2: at herspacepodcast dot com. And before we meet again, repeat

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Speaker 2: after me, I am not defined by where I come

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Speaker 2: from or what happened to me. I get to create

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Speaker 2: my own destiny.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week. Lady