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Speaker 2: We're gonna hit both of tonight's games, the MAVs going

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Speaker 1: We can keep hitting.

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Speaker 2: Them throughout the rest of the playoffs. So I picked

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Speaker 2: the Maps to win this game coming into Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Dants Clippers based on a couple of different things. First

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Speaker 2: of all, the maps have had two disastrous stretches in

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Speaker 2: this series, in the beginning of Game one in the

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Speaker 2: teams have stacked up to this point. And then secondly,

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Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic or James Harden and Paul

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Speaker 2: to to who are you taking? You're taking? You're taking

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving, And I want to kind

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Speaker 2: there are ebbs and flows in a playoff series, right.

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Speaker 2: I experienced this firsthand as a Lakers fan last year, Like,

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Speaker 2: they won the first two series the exact same way,

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Speaker 2: stole Game one on the road, kind of punted, Game two,

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Speaker 2: kind of punted Game five dominated Game six. That's how

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Speaker 2: It was the same kind of flow throughout those series, right,

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Speaker 2: is no way to fake or replicate urgency. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: Game four was always gonna be a game where Dallas

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Speaker 2: I talked about the Lakers kind of punting game five

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Speaker 2: were just obviously going to bring a hallacious defensive effort tonight,

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Speaker 2: Derek Jones Junior.

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Speaker 2: He's been my favorite role player MAV this entire season.

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Speaker 2: Those of you guys have been following the show have

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Speaker 2: known that I've been kind of pitching like this idea

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Speaker 2: just think he's an awesome slasher that has made him

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Speaker 2: an effective spot up player. He's a better three point

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Speaker 2: like just has that kind of transition athleticism pop that

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Speaker 1: Get to right.

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Speaker 2: He did an amazing job on Paul George in this game, pressuring,

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Speaker 2: like that's where I want to kind of zoom in

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncics were a safe bet to provide a certain

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Speaker 2: you an idea. The final tally Kyrie Irving and Luka

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Speaker 2: two turnovers, Paul George and James Harden twenty two points

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Speaker 2: on twenty five shots, eleven assists and seven turnovers. A

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Speaker 2: gigantic chasm in production between your two primary shot creators.

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Speaker 2: So the question is why why is that the case?

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Speaker 2: it's mostly about size and strength. He's so big and

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Speaker 2: He's been getting to his pull up jump shot whenever

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Speaker 2: he can actually work from other spots on the floor.

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Speaker 2: In that third quarter run, how many times in a

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Speaker 2: sort of like push shot slash short bank shot that

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Speaker 2: and James Harden are literally incapable physically of consistently working

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Speaker 1: They can't do it. That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Like they need a defensive breakdown or a really favorable

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Speaker 2: that close to the rim consistently. Right, Luca, it's like

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Speaker 2: gonna bump him and bump him, get to my spot,

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Speaker 2: he also has the playmaking piece, right, So even though

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Speaker 2: and he did get far more comfortable as a pull

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Speaker 2: up shooter in that second half, and that's obviously encouraging,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about it throughout the series, like that's

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Speaker 2: be surprised if he has a good pull up shooting

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Speaker 2: to make plays as a playmaker. That was how he

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Speaker 2: did it early. Kyrie and Luca started this game off.

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Speaker 2: They started this game not being able to make shots,

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Speaker 2: but they were getting to spots on the floor, collapsing

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Speaker 2: there's a really high floor with Luca in a big game.

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Speaker 2: We know Luca has had bad regular season games where

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Speaker 2: he just is floating all over the places on both

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Speaker 2: ends of the floor and not engaged defensivelier on the glass,

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Speaker 2: and blah blahlah blah. We know that can happen. I mean, helly,

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Speaker 2: physical tools and because of his basketball queue Kyrie irving

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Speaker 2: in that secondary role, he just has a history of

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Speaker 2: being a reliable scoring threat. And also I think he's

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Speaker 2: underrated as an athlete, specifically with his speed. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: four games of the series, not counting tonight, Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 2: attempted more shots in the restricted area than James Harden

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Speaker 2: and Paul George combined by himself. Because Kyrie can beat

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Speaker 2: people off the dribble. He has the best combination of footwork, handle, quickness,

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Speaker 2: and improvisational audacious shot making in the entire NBA. Let

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Speaker 2: me just break it down to a simpler level. If

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Speaker 2: you needed a single bucket on a single possession, who

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Speaker 2: are you taking Paul George, James Harden or Kyrie Irving?

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Speaker 2: Just take Luca out of the equation. Take I'm taking Kyrie.

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Speaker 2: He's quicker, better footwork, better handle, better shot maker than

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Speaker 2: have to carry the offensive load possession by possession, but

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Speaker 2: just give you these short bursts of activity and be

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Speaker 2: effective in those short bursts, he's deeply, deeply valuable. Moving

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Speaker 2: over to the other side with James Harden, he is

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Speaker 2: a finesse guard that is an excellent playmaker and a

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Speaker 2: good pull up shooter. And if he's allowed to get comfortable,

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Speaker 2: especially in ball screens, he can pick you apart. And

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Speaker 2: if he's got the step back three going and he

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Speaker 2: can find favorable matchups, he can get hot. But when

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Speaker 2: the intensity picks up and when the physicality picks up

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Speaker 2: to the highest level in the NBA playoffs, like many

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Speaker 2: finesse players, he can struggle to get separation from his defender.

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Speaker 2: He could barely get the pull up three off tonight

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Speaker 2: But one of the things that was interesting is in

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Speaker 2: Spolstra's gimmicks well. Last year in the postseason, Eric Spolster

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00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: ran the zone one hundred and fifteen times against Boston

434
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 2: and helped them below a point per possession. This year,

435
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 2: he only ran it twenty eight times because the Celtics

436
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 2: shot seventy nine percent in effective field goal percentage against

437
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: it and scored one point five to four points per possession.

438
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: So they took what was a weakness last year, their

439
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: inability to solve that spolster zone, and turned it into

440
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: a legitimate strength and played them out of it.

441
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: Now.

442
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: Obviously different personnel than the Gabe Vincent, Max Strus Jimmy

443
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: Butler type of groups you were seeing last year, but

444
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: still zone defense in particular, especially with how well run

445
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: it is in Miami. I still find that to be impressive,

446
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: even if the defensive personnel isn't as good. They also

447
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: rebounded extremely well. They had a fifty six percent rebound

448
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: percentage in the series, which is awesome. We talked about Tatum.

449
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: He led the regular season in usage for Boston at

450
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: twenty nine point six. He was at twenty five point

451
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: three in the series. The reality is Jaylen Brown and

452
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: Derek White just had better matchups. So I totally get it,

453
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: and he devoted his energy towards rebounding. Jason Tatum had

454
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Speaker 2: fifty one defensive rebounds in the first round. Only Anthony

455
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: Davis and Nikola Jokic had more defensive rebounds in that

456
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: first round. And then Sam Howser really impressed me in

457
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: this series. Shot forty eight percent from three on five

458
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: attempts per game was a huge part of them busting

459
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: Miami Zone. Really starting to show more confidence too in

460
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: terms of like slightly contested shots and like movement based

461
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: jump shots two, which I think is going to be

462
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: an upside for him in the long run as well.

463
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: And then he competes and does his job on defense,

464
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: just a really useful role player. Now, obviously Boston's looking

465
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: at a much bigger challenge in the next round. I

466
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: actually think Orlando is more capable of giving them issues.

467
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: I still lean slightly towards Cleveland winning the series, just

468
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: because they're a little bit more experien and they'll have

469
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Game seven at home, so Orlando has to I think

470
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: Orlando will beat them in Game six, but Game seven

471
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: is just it's a veteran team at home. It's gonna

472
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: be a tough one for Orlando. Went like Donovan Mitchell

473
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: has way more playoff experience than Palo and Franz. Right,

474
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: They've got Marcus Morris, They've got Tristan Thompson, like, when

475
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: you go to Orlando, it's basically, you know, Joe Ingles

476
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: and then a bunch of young, young, really young players,

477
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: and so it's just it's hard for me to bet

478
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Speaker 2: on Orlando. But should Orlando get out of that series,

479
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: they're the team that I actually think has some potential

480
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 2: to give Boston some issues. To be clear, I think

481
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: Boston would kill both of these teams. I think they

482
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: destroy Cleveland. I think I think they would just do

483
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 2: I think they would embarrass Cleveland. But Orlando is huge

484
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: and athletic, and they play super hard, and they're really

485
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: really good at home. So I think that could kind

486
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: of That's what I'm gonna be rooting for, just for

487
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: a more interesting series. And honestly, I think it benefit

488
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: Boston to play some more intense basketball games, like all

489
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: of their peers right now are playing like intense, must

490
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 2: win competitive basketball games like every single night, and Boston's

491
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 2: been chilling, for lack of a better term, right, And

492
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: so I think facing Orlando would actually be beneficial for

493
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: them to kind of face a legitimate physical challenge to

494
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: kind of get them ready for the conference finals so

495
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: that they're a little more primed up when they get

496
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: there on the Heat front, I don't have much to

497
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: say other than this, enough of this, make some sort

498
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: of aggressive move to bring in more firepower. I'm sick

499
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: of talking about how good of a coach Eric Spolshra

500
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: is while he's out there trying to make things work

501
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: with a bunch of undrafted guys and a bunch of

502
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: cast offs from other franchises. I'm a big believer in

503
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: Heat culture. I believe in Eric Spolstra's abilities. I believe

504
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: in their standards and expectations as a franchise. But at

505
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like it only works against

506
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: teams that are fraudulent every time they run into a

507
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: legitimate championship contender. Even with Jimmy and Bam, they just

508
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: don't have enough. And it'll be a damn shame if

509
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: they finally do bring in some sort of real firepower

510
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 2: and it's too late because Jimmy's too old. The window

511
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: is now. It has to happen this summer. Someone will

512
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: be available and they cannot get cheap. And no, I

513
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: don't think Tyler Harrow is good enough, even with some

514
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: of the flashes that he showed in this series. I

515
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: don't think he's good enough to be untouchable in these discussions.

516
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: You have to have a bona fide star level shot

517
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: creator in the backcourt so that you can go into

518
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: a series and say, I've got three players that are

519
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: top twenty five in the NBA that I'm giving Eric

520
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: Spolstra so that he has a legitimate set of tools

521
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: to use in this type of environment. They need to

522
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: get aggressive. They need to make something happen this offseason.

523
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Speaker 1: No more of this.

524
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: Let's see if our culture and coaching and moxie and

525
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: confidence in Jimmy Butler's alpha dog mentality can pull us

526
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: through a playoff run. That can't be the case anymore.

527
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Speaker 1: Before we get out of here.

528
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Speaker 2: At three mail back questions for you guys, Hi, Jason,

529
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Speaker 2: what do you think the reason is that Palla Bancaro

530
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: is getting so little national attention? The man dropped thirty

531
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: nine to eight in a big road playoff game and

532
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: the national media is quiet. Just wanted to know your thoughts.

533
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: I appreciate you covering the smaller market teams as well.

534
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: Great show. So here's the thing. As much as Powell

535
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: has been super impressive and I was digging into him

536
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: his numbers, this morning, and he shot forty six percent

537
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: on pull up jumpers through the first five games of

538
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: the series. He's shown some higher level playmaking than I

539
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: was expecting to see from him this in this particular

540
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: type of physical playoff environment. He's fighting for good matchups

541
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: and good position and just bullying his way to close

542
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: jump shots close to the basket that he's hitting it

543
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: a high percentage. I've been super impressed with Palo, But

544
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: the reality is is the by far among all the

545
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: eight playoff series except for Boston Miami, so I shouldn't

546
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Speaker 2: say by far.

547
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Speaker 1: So there's a drop off after the top.

548
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Speaker 2: Six series though, like Cleveland Orlando, I have not seen

549
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: anybody at a national level that I talk to regularly

550
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: that respects either of them as a legitimate championship contender,

551
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: even in that Boston Miami series. Like we're watching to

552
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: like Boston's the best team in the East. We're kind

553
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: of evaluating them in that lens. So there's a reason

554
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: why Orlando Cleveland's been on NBA TV every night. They're

555
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: just the subsidiary series in this situation. And here's the reality.

556
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: Orlando's not going anywhere. Plow is ascending. The dude's a star.

557
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: He's gonna keep getting.

558
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: Better and better and better.

559
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: Like he was a pick and pop three at the

560
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: top of the key from winning that game five the

561
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: other night, and it looked at the was good release,

562
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: and he had made a three earlier in the fourth quarter. Like,

563
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: Pallo's awesome. He's gonna have his chance. Orlando as a

564
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: team is going to continue to move up the ranks,

565
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: and as they do, they'll be in higher profile series.

566
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: He'll get more attention and he'll have more opportunities. But

567
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: it's just the league is stacked. The league is super

568
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: super stacked with talent, and we've got other guys like

569
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxi and Anthony Edwards that are thriving in the

570
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: playoff setting for like real teams in real competitive series,

571
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: so they're naturally going to get more of that spotlight.

572
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: But everything will come in time. With Pallo, I'm a

573
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: big fan of his. Kind of goes back to what

574
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier in the show too, like

575
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: he's got that overwhelming physical imposition, which is just a

576
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: huge asset for a playoff player moving forward, Hey, Jason,

577
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: other than Joel Embiid and John Moran, no other major

578
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: stars this season seemed to have found the sixty five

579
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: game a sixty five minimum game requirement to be an issue.

580
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at predictions for all the awards and all

581
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: NBA teams, and they're all pretty much what i'd expect. However,

582
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: in previous seasons, a lot of stars like Steph lebron

583
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: kd only played around fifty games. Do you think do

584
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: you think then that this was just a result of

585
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: load management and teams being overcautious, and that injuries didn't

586
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: actually increase since the two thousands. So I look at

587
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: everything that happened this year almost purely circumstantial. Like Heavin Durant,

588
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: someone fell into his knee last year and he sprained

589
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: his knee.

590
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: Lebron last year, it was.

591
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: The foot that caused him to miss a bunch of time, right,

592
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: Like these guys were getting hurt last year, even when

593
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: within this postseason, Like there's obviously the physicality has been

594
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: at a higher level in this postseason, and I think

595
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: that's given it some legs. But I've seen a lot

596
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: of people talking about, like, oh, too many people are

597
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: getting injured in this playoff run, And like in my

598
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: experience falling the NBA, it's like some years that happens,

599
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: and some years it doesn't. If I remember correctly, it

600
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: was it twenty twenty one, Yeah, it was like three

601
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: years ago we had a playoff run where like a

602
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: bunch of people got hurt. I want to say it

603
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: was two years. I think it was twenty twenty one

604
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two, Like it's super common for a

605
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: bunch of people, Like occasionally, I shouldn't say it's super common.

606
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: To me, it's a total crap shoot. Like sometimes there's

607
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: gonna be a year where five or six stars get hurt,

608
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: and then sometimes there's gonna be year where everyone appears

609
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: to be healthy. Right, Like last year was a relatively

610
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: healthy playoff run. This year it's been more of a disaster.

611
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't really think there's much of a rhyme or

612
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: reason to it. I think it's just I think when

613
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: you're zooming in on a small sample of a handful

614
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: of like fifteen players that you consider to be like

615
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: the the faces of the league, the superstar class, like

616
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: that's enough of a small sample size that, like, you know,

617
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 2: if one year five guys get hurt and the next

618
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: year two guys get hurt, it can seem like some

619
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: sort of gigantic difference when when in reality it's not right.

620
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: So I don't, I don't. I don't think the league

621
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: has any issue with injuries. I think the sixty five

622
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: game minimum requirement does help to a certain extent. But

623
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: I think guys were just healthier this year, especially among

624
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: some of the bigger names and during the regular season, right,

625
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: and I think in this postseason run the injuries are

626
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: purely circumstantial. I don't really read too much into it,

627
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. All right, last question, who

628
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: are you taking at Team USA as replacement players? Seems

629
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: clear that embiiding KOI are not going to be able

630
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: to I take Jalen Brown and j Dubb. So I

631
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: think that Embiid is probably out, But I wouldn't be

632
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: surprised if Kawi played. I mean, we're talking two months

633
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: from now, and from what I understand, he doesn't have

634
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: any sort of structural issue in his knee. It's just inflammation.

635
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: So if he were to take like a month off

636
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: and then ramp up for a month for training camp,

637
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: I think he'd be fine. And so I think Kawhi

638
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: could still play. Jaylen Brown's an interesting option.

639
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: Jay Dubb.

640
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: I also really really like j Dubb is an excellent

641
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: perimeter defender, good year, good playmaker too. I think he'd

642
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: be an interesting example of a young player. Another guy

643
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: I keep an eye on is Austin Reeves too. Like

644
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: they've got tons of star talent, but Austin demonstrated last

645
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: year a Team USA that he kind of has a

646
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: natural feel for the international game. And I think Austin's

647
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: one of the best connective players that's in the league.

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Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that's not gonna blow you

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Speaker 2: away on the box score, but the dude, when you

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Speaker 2: just put him alongside four other really good players, he

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Speaker 2: just he's just a really good connective piece on both

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Speaker 2: ends of the floor. But again, I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 2: if Kawai still played even on the embid front, like

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Speaker 2: Joel Embiid like basically stiffed to the country of France

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Speaker 2: to play to play in for Team USA. So like,

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Speaker 2: something tells me he's probably gonna want to hold up

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Speaker 2: his end of the bargain there, but we'll.

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Speaker 1: See how his knee holds up. But again, you can't

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Speaker 1: go wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think I tend to think when you get to

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Speaker 2: this far down in the roster, you want to look

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Speaker 2: for role players, guys that are really good at playing

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Speaker 2: a role along side other shot creators.

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Speaker 1: That's what we'll call.

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Speaker 2: It. Probably cause me to lean more towards a guy

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Speaker 2: like Ja Dubb or a guy like Austin Reevees. All right, guys,

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Speaker 2: that has all have for today is always I sincerely

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Speaker 2: appreciate you for supporting the show. Tomorrow we are recording

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Speaker 2: with Adamanas from d NVR. We're gonna do a preview

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Speaker 2: on Nuggets Timberwolves that's gonna air on Friday morning. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna start kind of like doing some film stuff on

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Speaker 2: that series as well. We'll have a separate video that's

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Speaker 2: just film from that series. And then I believe tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night is we have another jam packed playoffs Slate. I

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Speaker 2: think tomorrow night is Nick Sixers and Pacers Bucks if

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Speaker 2: I remember correctly, So we're gonna be live on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of an earlier start

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Speaker 2: with the way things shook out, so I think we're

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Speaker 2: going I think the last game starts at nine pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: so we'll be going around eleven thirty pm Eastern Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night live on YouTube I will see you guys. Then

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Speaker 2: the volume