1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: This He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing Stuff 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: We back together. 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 5: We're looking live kind of at a covered up Tostitos 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 5: Championship plouza outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas, 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 5: where it is forty six degrees, the highest forty seven. 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 6: The low is woo twenty six degrees. 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: He is Nate, This is Kurt. It came back from Mexico, 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: a couple of pints, light. 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: In the back. 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 4: He was love of locals. Chris Beam, I am Salt 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: and Pepper Poppy. Together we make Hanging with the boys 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: the sports talk equivalent mbreal people. When we speak. 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 6: To you each and every day by Wingstop where flavor 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 6: gets its wee. 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: Thank you wing Stop. 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: It's been a while. 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: How you guys doing good? 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: Yeah? 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 4: Life Chili Life's good Man, Nate good. 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 6: We gotta head nod we got it might be all 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 6: we get out of the Today's a head nod. A 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 6: lot going on though? 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 7: Is the kid named Marty Schottenheimer, No, that's his daddy. 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 7: I got the ron coaching. I was excited about Marty's 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 7: that I were run the ball. 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: We got Marty shot. 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: No hard to do that. 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so much going on, very rarely in the off season. 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: Do we have this much to talk about before the drafts? 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: Really? 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: I mean, Jerry told you Green Bay. It's funny we 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: were trying to fire coach last year. Now we're looking 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: back and say, you know, God that we were trying 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: to fire you got the Green Bay Not not so bad? 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Right? 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: That look at so bad? But it's just the cowboys. 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: So what Jerry say? Soap opera three sixty five days 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 4: a year. Always sure before we get going. Uh, big 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: shout out to Hi may himI. I met him. 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 5: He listens to the show every single DAYIM him and 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: his wife, his beautiful wife. 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: I met them in Mexico. 49 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Nice. 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: He told me he had heard about the festival I 51 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: go to every year. So he started going three years ago. 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 5: This was his third year, and every year he looks 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: for me. 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 6: Not on social media. He can't find me. 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 5: And we were sitting at this beach bar that we 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: always sit at in between the show, and there was 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: a guy that had a shirt on and it said 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: Trump please buy the Dallas Cowboys and make them great again. 59 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 6: And I was giving him. I was giving him. 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: Stuff about wearing cowboy gear and messing with him and 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 5: you know. And then I said, hey, I'm a cowboy 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: fan too, and you know, he was from Iowa. So 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: we talked for a little bit and then you know, 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: everybody went on their. 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 6: Way, and like five minutes later, I hear somebody goes, Shannon, look, 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 6: and the guy was standing over there with him. He goes, 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 6: are you Shannon hanging with the boys? 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: I was like, what are you gonna bro? 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: Bro. 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: He's from Ventura County. He goes to training camp all 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 5: the time. So we hung out and had some beers 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: and talk. So he asked about all you guys and 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: and uh listens every single day. And his wife was like, 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: I cannot get him to shut up about your show. 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: He listens, he loves you'all show. 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: The number one show on the Dallas Cowboys. 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 6: There you go, Yes, yes, we're still number one. 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it is until somebody tell me otherwise, Yeah, Chris, 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: you say you know, we're gonna say yes, so we. 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Still kind of number one. 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: The ratings came out and you're still number. 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Let's go, Derek, quit speaking to me. 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: I think the email read it's on something like I 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: like it. 85 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 6: So for the whole year, just for like the last week. 86 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: We want to go to all the semantics. It doesn't matter. 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: I want to know. 88 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 8: It's I think it's up until this point since they 89 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 8: started calculating it to the. 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 6: Let's go, yeah, took us forever. We got there, let's go. 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: Congratulations. We should celebrate wing, help us celebrate. Yeah, help 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: us celebrate. 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 6: There you go, but yeah, shout out to how me 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 6: and his wife. 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: They were super nice and thank you guys for listening 96 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 5: all the way. 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: Sure it ain't Marty shouting Marty in fact, I know it, Martin. 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he ain't even with us right now. 99 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. He going, I'm Mary, ain't us 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: right now? Okay, it's Marty. We we we got at 101 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: worship than we were. 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 9: Well. 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: I want to know. I want to know who he knows. 104 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: All right, let's talk quick. Shout out. 105 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 8: Yes, I want to shout out to Kalisha. I saw 106 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 8: her in the lunch line. She says, she's still listening 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 8: to our show Last every day. 108 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you, Legal Department, legals Last. 109 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: And there's three people in the building you want on 110 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 5: your side. 111 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: Legal, Yeah, I t yeah, and Finance shout out, shout out, 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: my boy, big shout out. 113 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Right shaking what he had, mad game, the Big Rod. 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: I got some champions. I got some camp checks and 115 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: I ain't quite got yet, Rob. I got some camp 116 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: checks out there, out there to eat the somewhere, Big Rob. 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 4: You know, I got some camp checks out and done 118 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: give it back to the community, Big Robe, My boy, 119 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: you know why we get down? 120 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 5: Call him, hit him up, let's talk about it. You 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 5: brought it up, this head coaching thing. What's bring me 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: up to speed? What's go I've been I've been out 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: of the loop. Who's going to be our new coach? 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 5: What's happening? 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 4: What's going on? 126 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: Kurt? 127 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 6: You on the inside, scoop you in the building every day. 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 9: Who knows they've interviewed what four guys? 129 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, Salem, Robert Solo, they got Jerk Seattle, Jerk Sea Yeah, 130 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 10: and then Leslie Fraser, Yeah, Fraser and then uh Kellen 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 10: Moore and now Marty Schartenheimer's son Nate. 132 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 5: When I was in Mexico, Marty shot, come on, Kurt, 133 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: But I was in Mexico. My phone was blowing up 134 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 5: with all this Dion talk. 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 7: That was the first besides Fraser that was that was 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 7: the second most fantasized, Uh coach. 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: I have people in Mexico asking me like is that. 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: I was like, look, I don't think there's anyway. There's 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: no way Dion wants this. The only way he would 140 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 5: do it is if they paid him enough money. And 141 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 5: I don't think Jerry's gonna cut big enough check to 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: get him in this building. 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: Contrary to what he said last year about the check 144 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: two years ago, three years ago about the check that 145 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: he was right for a Super Bowl that's. 146 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 5: Making its rounds on social media this week. So what 147 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 5: do any of those candidates? 148 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 6: None of them are like wow candidates right, Like at 149 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 6: this point, I just want to be entertained. 150 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: Like, even if it's. 151 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 6: Not the right coach, bring somebody in. 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: This just gonna mix it completely up. Like somebody even 153 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: mentioned Cliff Kingsbury to me. I'm like, bring him in, Like, 154 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: I don't think he's the right fit. I don't think 155 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: he's the right guy. But let's mix it up. 156 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 6: Let's get let's get some new juice. 157 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 10: In here, some new blood like kell Bring him in 158 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 10: for an interviewer you want to, let's hire him if. 159 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 5: We're gonna throw Kellen Moore and people that have already 160 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: been on the staff, like I've seen all that, Like 161 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 5: that doesn't excite me, Like that's. 162 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 9: A good question. 163 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 10: Do you want somebody in house who knows some of you? 164 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 10: Want new blood? 165 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: I want at this point, at this point in my 166 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: life and the way I'm affiliated with this team and 167 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 5: as a fan, bring me something, Yes, bring me something. 168 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 5: Kellen's not going to excite me, like it okay? And 169 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: the smart thing kill him? Maybe the smarter move. Is 170 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: he ready to be a head coach? That's the big question, right, 171 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: But just for entertainment purposes, bring some wild ass candidate 172 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 5: in here that I'm like a Dan Campbell. 173 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 6: Like when he got hired, it was like what are 174 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 6: we doing? 175 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: Who is this guy? 176 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 6: But then he was entertaining, right and then look what 177 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 6: he's turned into. 178 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 5: Like bring me Jason Witton just for the circus, let's 179 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: bring it on, just something to make me have fun 180 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: with this, because nothing that's out there right now. 181 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: I think I got a call the other day from 182 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: a guy, you know. He called me like eight at night. 183 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 7: He call you in twenty minutes, right, But then he 184 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 7: wakes me up the next morning at seven o'clock. 185 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Hey man, can I ask you a question? Would you 186 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: finish that Jesse? Would you telling him if finished this story? Yestery? 187 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: So I'm the guy. 188 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: I like how you did that. 189 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: I'm the guy who he's talking about. But the question 190 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: that I called, and Nate I called to accinate was simply, 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: when you got to Jimmy or Jimmy got to you? 192 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: Because I keep hearing all this conversation about you know, 193 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: the guys like them, the players like him, this pleasure. 194 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: I said, did you did you like Jimmy Johnson? 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 11: Like? 196 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: Did you like him? And they said, well, he said, 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: it wasn't that we didn't like him. We respected him, 198 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: he said, but we we had a healthy sense of 199 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: fear of him. And when we began, he said, Jimmy 200 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: became enjoyable once you did the work that was required 201 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: to win. He said, if you weren't doing the work 202 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: that required to his standard to win, then you wasn't 203 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: going to like him because he was going to make 204 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: it very uncomfortable for you. He was going to make 205 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: it very tough for you. He was going to make 206 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 4: it to a place to where you no longer wanted. 207 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: To be there. 208 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 4: But when you did the work and it was to 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: the standard and the winning came behind it, yeah, you 210 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: enjoyed being around him. We had fun and he was 211 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: you know, lighthearted and all those other things. But when 212 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: you crossed that line of the work not getting done 213 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: to the standard of which he held, then it was 214 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: it was rule. It was rude by an iron fist. 215 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 4: And that's what I called. I just you know, and 216 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: then Nate fashioned. I just called for one question forty 217 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: five minutes later. I called for one question forty five 218 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: minutes later. But the information that we talked about and 219 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: that he gave me about this conversation is why I 220 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: shake my head about the higher because it doesn't match up. 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like this is going to be one 222 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: of those things. And I think the last couple of times, 223 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: because when you begin to look for comfortability, familiarity, and 224 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: and you know, I don't really want to upset the 225 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: apple card to your point. I'm not always there with 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 4: the circus, but to have someone come in that will 227 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: be able to have a healthy dose of fear injected 228 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: into these men. 229 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 5: The unfamiliar, the unfamiliar opposite of what they're seem to 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: be doing. 231 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: The unfamiliar, but not just not just on the surface, 232 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 4: but thrown through being able to say, no, star player, 233 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 4: you can't be late for a meeting and still play. 234 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 10: Get a coach like that, strike fear into the players, 235 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 10: so to speak, and also work with Jerry Jones. 236 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: It's the working part is and here's the thing between 237 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: an owner and a general manager. The working part should 238 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: be give me what I need and I'll give you 239 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: the results. Right, give me what I need, get out 240 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: of my way. You hired me to do a job. 241 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a list of guys that I 242 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: need for offense, for defense, for special teams, whatever it 243 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: may have. You as a general manager, your job is 244 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: now to make this all work, make the financials work, 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 4: make the roster work. If we need to make a trade, 246 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: if we need to find some free agents. That's the work. 247 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: This is like this whole coaching thing in GM thing. 248 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: It's not a collaboration like Hey, I need you in 249 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: here with me to tell me what to do on No, 250 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: it's basically you hired me, give me what I need 251 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: and let me cook and with that we get we 252 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: get dubs. But as the head coach, I rule this, 253 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: I rule this. I have the final say so and 254 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 4: what goes on in here. Now, I'll come to you 255 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 4: and consult you on some things. But this isn't This 256 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: isn't a thing where you are going to constantly be 257 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: telling me what pieces the move where, who should be playing? No, no, no, 258 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: no no. That's how it's done. That's how the good 259 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: teams do it. That's how the good teams do it. 260 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: And now you see that yield success, you see the 261 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: fruits of that labor. But it's when you have the 262 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: the when you have the the when a portion of 263 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: the locker room understands that you don't really control what 264 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: we do that week, that hurts. And this is the 265 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: part that Nate was talking about. Was wasn't nobody jumping 266 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: over Jimmy head? No, wasn't nobody going when Jimmy said 267 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 4: you going? Wasn't nobody jumping over that and going to 268 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: see somebody else? Oh, Jimmy said you ain't playing or 269 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm finding you, I'm doing this, or I'm doing that 270 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: with you. You couldn't jump over his head and get 271 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: the OK from somewhere else. And now he holds your 272 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: hand and walk you back into my office, and now 273 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: we have to come to an agreement or what we're gonna. 274 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Do with you. 275 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: It was once you said go, I went and and 276 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: and the results of that is what we're gonna live with. 277 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: And for the coaching part of it is if I 278 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: have success, then you look good. If I don't have success, 279 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: that's when you fired me, like any other job. And 280 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing that we sometimes, you know, we 281 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: we we find ourselves talking about and maybe running into 282 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: and facing is the healthy fear that was had in 283 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: the nineties. That healthy fear is no longer present because 284 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: the people who need to have the healthy fear and 285 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: make and make no mistake about it, things are watched 286 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: very closely in locker rooms. And so if if you're 287 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: the star player, or you're the player who is presented 288 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: to us as that guy, whether that be through productivity 289 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: or salary, and I can watch you do certain things 290 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: or lack thereof, Now I might not be able to 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: go full what you go. But I have a laying 292 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: where I go, and I'm and I'm doing my my 293 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: my nonsense, all my all my eyes are not dotted, 294 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: all my teas are not crossed, because I've seen you 295 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: as a superstar, not dot all your eyes and cross 296 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: all your tea's. So what ends up happening is, yeah, 297 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: you might be able to get away with it because 298 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: of who you are, and they may yell at me 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: a little bit. But now what happens is we have 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: all of these gaps. There's a gap in Uh, there's 301 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: a gap in in and in structure. There's a gap 302 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: in attention to details. Uh, there's a gap in seriousness. 303 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: There's a gap in the studies. There's a gap in 304 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: the practice habits. There's a gap in how we practice. 305 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 4: There's a gap in how we review film and how 306 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: we study. There's a gap in learning the information. There's 307 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: a gap and how we prepare on practices and game days. 308 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: So and what happens is the to to some of 309 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: it all up is the devil is in the details. 310 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: Too many areas have gaps. That's where the lock thereof 311 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: comes in. And when you go out there on Sundays, 312 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: those small little gaps that were created through how things 313 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: were because they weren't corrected. They weren't nipped in the bud, 314 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: they weren't the doors weren't slammed. The stars of the 315 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: team didn't have all they idd doted and teased crossing, 316 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: so all other people were doing the same thing. Now 317 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: what you have in those gaps. Losses fall in those gaps, 318 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: the communication falls in those gaps, the details falls in 319 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: those gaps, and now there's penalties, and now there's all 320 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: the little things that we see happen on Sunday. It 321 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: starts there, and that that's why I look at this 322 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: higher and I go, I don't need somebody, so gona 323 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: come in and be able to still be buddy buddy 324 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: with the dudes, because now guys in that locker room 325 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: already know they got social media. They're looking like nobody 326 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: even else wants you. 327 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: And then the gaps, like. 328 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 7: Just out of the gaps that you're talking about, trying 329 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 7: to find a proper word when and then when you 330 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 7: don't have the players, the gaps turning the canyons. 331 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Because you're trying to you have no authority. So I'm 332 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: trying to come talk to you. 333 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 7: Just a star, you know, his right hand man kicking 334 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 7: it with him and hey, go you over here, my guy, 335 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 7: which ain't much. I mean, I ain't trying to down 336 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 7: up it, which ain't much. What you're gonna do, You're 337 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 7: gonna start acting up. I can't even control you now. 338 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 7: So what do you think the fifty third guy is 339 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 7: thinking when they say, hey man, you late? 340 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: You just kind of look at you. Oh well find me. 341 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: It got to be more than that. 342 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 7: It's got you gotta have a sense of you just 343 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 7: let I just let down, Jesse, I just let down, Kurt, 344 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 7: I just let down, Shannon. 345 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: You got to have that feeling. 346 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 7: Because if you don't have that feeling, because everybody's getting 347 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 7: paid now, even the practice squad guy is getting paid. 348 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: So where does that How do you close that gap? 349 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 7: You have to hire the right coach and you have to, 350 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 7: like Jesse has said over and over, coach, it's all yours. 351 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: So when that coach. 352 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 7: Closed the door to have its first meeting, to own 353 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 7: a name should never come up. The GM name should 354 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 7: never come up. It should be that I wanted like this, 355 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 7: This is how my staff, me and my staff gonna 356 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 7: run it. Anything outside of this room don't count. 357 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: And that's how it's gotta be. 358 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 5: Say our first break when we come back. You guys 359 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 5: mentioned the players. 360 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 6: What are the guys over on that side of the 361 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 6: building do they? Are they keeping an eye on this? 362 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: Do they care? 363 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 8: Do they? 364 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 6: How do you process a new coaching search when you're 365 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 6: on a team. 366 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 4: How do players look at it? Let's talk about that, 367 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: and man, Washington and Philadelphia? 368 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 6: Who saw that coming? 369 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: Are you not entertained? No one? 370 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 4: No one. 371 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 5: Let's talk about that. How do we feel as Cowboy fans? 372 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: And how do they feel upstairs about that? 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Kurt Yeah, beit a minute 428 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 5: swing by your local seven to eleven and grab your 429 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 5: favorite item from Loler Grill. 430 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 6: Then enjoy a big gulf big golf some for just 431 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 6: eighty nine cents. 432 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 5: Valid of participating stores fill up and get gamed ready. 433 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: So, Kurt, you've been out of pumps going. 434 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 9: They're always good man, no. 435 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Matter what. 436 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 6: Such thing as a bad pump, especially. 437 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: Such as a bad pump. Whoa wet to get your 438 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: fine though? Yeah? 439 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 6: How uh? How are the guys in the locker room? 440 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 6: Are they watching this coaching search or is it kind 441 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 6: of like the draft? You can't kind of keep a 442 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 6: side eye on. 443 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 5: It, but whatever happens happens, and you're here anyway, or 444 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: of there guys that. 445 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 7: Are, it's probably three or four guys, it's kind of 446 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 7: like okay, and then it's like, uh, forty eight guys. 447 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 10: Man? 448 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: Is there a group text going when a new when 449 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: a new candidates breaking news? Cowboys interview so and so 450 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: their position groups like, bro, I hope we don't get 451 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 5: this dude, or hey. 452 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 4: Like they just because a player like you know, all 453 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: right we interview with Roberts Halla. Now I'm trying to 454 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: figure out, all right, cool, who do I know that 455 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 4: that either knows him or played for him? Right, because 456 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying, if he's gonna be my head coach, and 457 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 4: I need to oh, I know so and so he 458 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 4: played for him? What kind of cook? 459 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: Bro? 460 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 4: Like yeah, like bro, like like what is he like? 461 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like, like what is practice like? Then? 462 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: And if I know, if I know, I'm also trying 463 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 4: to look at okay, like who would potentially be somebody 464 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: he bring on his staff. I always I've always told 465 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: guys this when I came into the league and I 466 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: left the league, I tell this constantly. When I was 467 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: training receivers and tight ends for like six or seven 468 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 4: years that getting them ready for the draft, I would 469 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 4: tell guys, Tell guys, Tell guys, be very kind to 470 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: your position coaches, be very kind to those assistants, be 471 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: very kind to your coordinators, because one day you can 472 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: look up, did you just eat off the floor? Three 473 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: second rule? One day, one day you'll look wondering what 474 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: was going on in. 475 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: You disappeared? Don't do that no more. It in my 476 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: house and not Louisiana. 477 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, but I tell them that at some point 478 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: in time, those assistants, those coordinators, those position coaches, they 479 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: could become a coordinator and or head coach. And the 480 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: last thing that you want to do is have crossed them. 481 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: Three years ago. Dog cuss him out, didn't work hard 482 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 4: for him, gave him a hard time, wasn't kind to them, 483 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: and now you're looking for a job. So there's some 484 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: dudes who are now saying, man, Brian shotting Himan, Like, man, 485 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: that last week of practice, Man, I ain't really I 486 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 4: remember when I was sometimes you know, he man, he 487 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: was holding those cards when I was on the scout 488 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: team and I wouldn't do what he was supposed to 489 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: be asking me to do. They thin a he't gonna 490 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: bring me back, you know. So that's the conversation of 491 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: some guys are saying, like, man, what the this? God, Man, 492 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: that offense ain't gonna be some guy by big excited. 493 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: Some guy be like Ben bro We ain't got to 494 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: learn a new offense. We can get the same thing. 495 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: So there's a host of things. But they're talking. Guys 496 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: are talking, Guys are trying to smart out. I'm trying 497 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: to find out, all right, what's the next move gonna be. 498 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: And if you're one of those guys like the like, 499 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: let's just say, like the Dak Prescotts of the world, 500 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 4: the CD Lambs of the world, I'm trying to get 501 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: good in now. I'm trying to hey, hey, hey, my boy, 502 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying. 503 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: To get in Hey. 504 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: Remember remember remember we talked about before last year was 505 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: on the sideline, and we need to implement that, man, like, 506 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: we need to really get this going because I want 507 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 4: I want him to think about how can I get 508 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 4: implemented in whatever system he decides to put in. Where 509 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: do I fall on that? And I don't want to 510 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 4: be left behind. 511 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 10: I'm not sure guys like Dak, CD, Micah, whoever being 512 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 10: are they being asked their opinions? It's part of this process, 513 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 10: are I hope not? 514 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: I honestly do some guys you can go to and 515 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: that question, but not here. Don't don't do. 516 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: That like you do? You know you do that when 517 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: you're Tom Brady and you file super Bowls in? You four? 518 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: You three super bowls in? Like, oh, because all right, cool? 519 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 4: What do you like? Because because whatever you because whatever 520 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: you like will lead to us being successful. The proof 521 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 4: is in the put you get the skins on the wall. 522 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: You got the skins on the wall. But I'm like, 523 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: and this is again, this is no knock. I'm not 524 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: talking bad about CD or Micah or Dak or any 525 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: of those guys, but you haven't done enough for me 526 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: to value your opinion on what is winning what winning 527 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: looks like? You know what I'm saying. And if you 528 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 4: had a couple of balls underneath your belt, you know, 529 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, we can have the conversation with Patrick Mahomes. 530 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 10: So when you've got so much money wrapped up in 531 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 10: it doesn't matter. Prescott and the Lamb don't you want? 532 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 10: Do they want their opinion on. 533 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: I got so much money wrapped up in you? 534 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: Damn it. 535 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 4: You do what I asked you to do when I 536 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: ask you to do it, and it ain't no paying 537 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: you sixty million, I'm paying you sixty million dollars a year. 538 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 4: You're telling me you uncomfortable with learning a new verbiage 539 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 4: paying you sixty million. If I wanted you to learn 540 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: damn Taiwanese, you better get rose out of stone and 541 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: learn taiwan like that. I'm paying you thirty five million 542 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: dollars a year. If I want you to learn Kastakastan, 543 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: you better get whoever you go, get a tutor, Go 544 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: spend the off season in Kastakiskan and learn the. 545 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 6: Language in the country I don't know is a language. 546 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, Pakistanian whatever it is? 547 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: Hey, but learning I'm about to pay back a part 548 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: of one of the richest contracts of defensive side of 549 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: the ball history. Go create it like you betta learn 550 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: it too. 551 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: Well. Most coaches gonna have knowledge of who you are. 552 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 7: Not a great a lot of not, but they're gonna 553 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 7: have some knowledge of who you are, and they gonna 554 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 7: be able to make adjustments on their offenses and defense 555 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 7: for these superstar type players. But that just goes back 556 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 7: to what Coach John's used to tell me. First of all, 557 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 7: your leaders is unquestionable to have a thirst that you 558 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 7: wouldn't believe to get better. So it should never you 559 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 7: should never worry about whether we dack friendly Parsons friendly 560 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 7: a city, because these guys should have a level of 561 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 7: go get it that cannot be matched. And that's what 562 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 7: the good coaches look for. And that's what coaches started 563 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: to understand. Number One, I'm gonna run. I'm not gonna 564 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: run this show. And if not, the number two thing 565 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 7: is do you have a quarterback? Because if you don't 566 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 7: have a quarterback, I'm in trouble because I can't cover 567 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 7: none of my sores. 568 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: So that's the two things. 569 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 7: Either I'm I'm gonna go find my quarterback and build 570 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 7: my team, or I got a quarterback, and if you 571 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 7: got a quarterback, we know what that can do for you. 572 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's take our second break. When we 573 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 6: come back, we will finish out the show. We'll talk 574 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 6: about Philly and Washington. 575 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna go wrinside your mouth for me to cook 576 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: you off the ground late. 577 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: Now you already swallowed it. 578 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 7: If I probably got all the type of dog, come on, 579 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 7: but Shanna, look. 580 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 6: I didn't even think about it dog being in here 581 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 6: until you brought that up. 582 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: Wow, you should throw up on the ground. 583 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: To where at? Chris, come show me we're at You're 584 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 4: to break. 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How you feel about that? 636 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: Good for them? 637 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 10: M you think you Boys fans are a little upset? 638 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: I think you think what the upset about? That? 639 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 10: The Cowboys are home and Washington phill are in and 640 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 10: there's your ex offensive coordinator on one side and your 641 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 10: ex defensive coordinator on the other, and whole string of 642 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 10: players in the game. I mean, it's kind of it's 643 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 10: just tough to take. 644 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 9: It's just throwing more dirt on the man. 645 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: I just got side of him. My wife say, didn't 646 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: he used. 647 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 4: To play for us? Baby, Baby, I didn't know he 648 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: went down? 649 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 7: Did we turned on the rams gave hey double gallible? Yeah, galloway. 650 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: Out the randy. 651 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 10: They don't like it means much though, mean must too 652 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 10: so the fence, yeah, or even here in the building, oh, 653 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 10: in the building. 654 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 5: That in the building, what do you what do you 655 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 5: think is more of a more of a kind of 656 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 5: a you know, hit the table, that it's two division 657 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: rivals that are in it, that you're a year ago, 658 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 5: you were head and shoulders above both of them, probably 659 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 5: a year ago. 660 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 4: At least one. Yeah, for sure had it. So it 661 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: was about one. 662 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 5: Or the fact that your defensive coordinator that you let 663 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 5: go be a head coach somewhere else. 664 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 6: Is in his first year in the NFC Championship game. 665 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 6: I think that's probably the one that, like Kellen, he 666 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 6: doesn't have a whole lot of control over. 667 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 5: He can control what he can control on the offense, 668 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 5: and you can say that their offenses with the tools 669 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 5: they got. 670 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: They should be they should be fifty points a game. 671 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 5: Right with Saquan and that receiver duo, you should be 672 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 5: running circles. But that I bet that defensive that defensive 673 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 5: coordinator you had here being a head coach and making 674 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: anything you. 675 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: Want to know, what's going to be the depressing But 676 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: what should be the depressing part is that you were 677 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: having showers better than Washington and in one year they're 678 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship Game. On top of that, their 679 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: quarterback still has three to four more years on his 680 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 4: rookie deal. Next year they can build the team around. 681 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 4: Next year, Washington has the second currently sitting right now, 682 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: Washington has the second highest, second or third highest amount 683 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 4: of money that they can spend heading into the offseason. 684 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 5: Because you could, couldn't you argue that this like talent wise, 685 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 5: barring injuries, talent wise, the Cowboys have now now that 686 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 5: they have a quarterback that they do you can debate 687 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 5: that whatever you want, But like surrounding that position on 688 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 5: offensive defense, the Cowboys might have more talent than Washington. 689 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: You don't think so, I did. 690 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 9: If they're healthy I think healthy. 691 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: Outside the courner. 692 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't think Washington more talent. 693 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 7: No no, y'all ain't been watching no games. Brother, And 694 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 7: they took they took one eye guys who we liked, 695 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 7: who we liked. I thin to go contra. You liked 696 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 7: it in Armstrong number ninety two. He's elevated his game. 697 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 7: Uh no, brother, they running back. They running back is 698 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 7: a bad man. And he finally figured out, you know what, 699 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 7: I'm gonna quit stead of stepping, and. 700 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm finna get downhill. 701 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, bro, they we can match them at wide receiver. Uh, 702 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 7: offensive line, It ain't no doubt now, No, they two 703 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 7: guys on the inside. 704 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: You take old saying that and our guy versus they 705 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: two guys on the inside. That ain't happening. What we 706 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: have over there is Parsons. 707 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 7: What we have is two cornerbacks when healthy after that name, 708 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 7: you name it. 709 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 4: No, we're not more talented in them. Okay, because you're 710 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 4: thinking about it. I'll take Bobby Wagon over our linebacker. 711 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: I'll take Frankie lous over. 712 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: I don't even mention him. Where did he come from? 713 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 6: First time I heard about it? When Jesse mentioned him? 714 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 6: Then when he's playing. 715 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 4: Big black Man or Louis, it might be smowing. 716 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, they'd be tonguing. 717 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: You know, he figured it out. 718 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: Little it's dark, dark dyce hair. 719 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: Big we got not more talented. 720 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 9: Interesting? 721 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: All right, how do you feel about it, Kurt? 722 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's frustrating. I think it's just another 723 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 10: bad look and a whole season of bad looks. And 724 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 10: I you know, I remember we had this question on 725 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 10: during the summer. The website does a series of twenty questions, 726 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 10: and one of the questions was had the rest of 727 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 10: the division caught up with the Cowboys? And my thinking 728 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 10: was was it so much they caught up or the 729 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 10: Cowboys fell back? And yes, Philly has got Philly out 730 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 10: of Barkley Washington, added Daniels, that sort of thing. But 731 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 10: at the same time, you know, if you're not getting better, 732 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 10: getting worse and the Cowboys took a big drop back. 733 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 4: No, the answer to you to that is yes, right, 734 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 4: like they got better, Cowboys got worse. The answers is yes. 735 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 7: We had this discussion when he called me about one 736 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 7: sub and I jumped over to the Washington team. They 737 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 7: have always been one quarterback away for the last six years. 738 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: They have always been a quarterback away. 739 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 7: Remember I wanted the brother fire last year because he 740 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 7: was killing the quarterback, would not run. I was in 741 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 7: love you to death, but I wanted you gone because 742 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 7: you had a good running back in this kid, and 743 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 7: they had another kid that they let go. This is 744 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 7: the same team, Fellas, that's been sitting there for four 745 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 7: or five years. 746 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: Two things have changed. 747 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 7: The head coach got rid of the owner, brought in 748 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 7: another guy, and in the quarterback, it's. 749 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: The same team. Go back and look up on paper. 750 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: It's the same team. 751 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 7: Come on, man, and you know what they ain't talking about. 752 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 7: Hey man, we got knocked out in the division around 753 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 7: They in the NFC championship game. Two teams from our division. 754 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 7: It's in the NFC. 755 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not NFC, but the NFC Championship game. Come on, man, I. 756 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 6: Wonder how many times in the history of the league 757 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 6: that two teams teams from the same. 758 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 4: Division, same division and conference. 759 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah. 760 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 9: What do you say at this point? 761 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 10: Do you think the Cowboys are significantly behind those other 762 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 10: two or is it just you know, by next season 763 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 10: you turn things around, you're not playing the first place schedule, 764 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 10: and all of a sudden You're. 765 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: Back to my point earlier about Washington all they're gonna 766 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 4: they're gonna have, They're gonna draft good, and they're gonna 767 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: sign more guys they can. They have the money to 768 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 4: go out there and keep adding on to that team 769 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 4: with premium prospects, premium free agents. They don't have to 770 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 4: go by, you know, bottom of the barrel bargain shopping. 771 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 4: They have enough money that they can go out and 772 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 4: go and sign. You know, I'll just give you a 773 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 4: wild example. I'm not saying this is gonna happen, but 774 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 4: Khalil mack right is an unrestricted free agent. Reports came 775 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 4: back that he has decided that he's gonna play another year. 776 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 4: They have enough money where they could say, you know what, Khalil, come, come, 777 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 4: come be for us what Vonnald Miller was for the 778 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: Broncos when they won their championship. Come come be the 779 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 4: finished shirt. Just be third, be a third downs past 780 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 4: Russ specialist. We'll give you one year twenty million. 781 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: Dollars like Graham did for Philadelphia. 782 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, they have money where 783 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: they can just throw it and not have to suffer 784 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 4: the consequences of it. Not you know, won't hurt their 785 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 4: cap again, and they can do that for the next 786 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 4: couple of years because their quarterback is on a rookie deal. 787 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 4: These doesn't really work that way though. What doesn't work 788 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 4: that way? 789 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 8: Well, you say that there their second in cap, they're 790 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 8: actually third, Okay, third, I said second or third? Say 791 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 8: the third? Okay, that's fine, But they only have thirty 792 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 8: four guys in their contract, right, That's what I'm saying. 793 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 4: They say that they have to pay, right, but they don't. 794 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 4: They're they're they're not strapped where they now can't pay 795 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 4: those guys that they want to and go and get 796 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: premier and you still have to fill those gas. 797 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's fine, but that money's gonna get chewed up 798 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 8: pretty right way. 799 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 4: But I'm not in a depth aware of that. I'm 800 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 4: not in a death It's one thing to be in 801 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: the deficit. It's one thing to be at the low 802 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: end of it. 803 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 9: You don't have to bargain shop. 804 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 4: I don't have to bargain shop. I can do whatever, 805 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 4: I can do whatever I want. 806 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 7: And the option that you have, and this is what 807 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 7: I always hated about the forty nine ers and when 808 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 7: and when the Seahawks were rolling And the option that 809 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 7: you have now is not only do you have a 810 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 7: little cap space and you still got to sign those 811 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 7: extra guys, but now you can say, hey, man, we're winning, right, 812 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 7: So for guys on the tract years, see, like, man, 813 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 7: I take a little bit less money, but these dudes, 814 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 7: it got a shot at there going deep in the playoffs. 815 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: And that helps. 816 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 7: I mean, that does make a difference when you get 817 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 7: you know, you're rolling up on you last few years 818 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 7: and mass man, we're gonna you know, are you want 819 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 7: to prove yourself. You know nobody's signed you during the 820 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 7: off season, but you're a quality player. 821 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: Come on in here, man on a one year deal. 822 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: That that winning helps. 823 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 4: See, these are the type these are the type of 824 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 4: teams when you go and you add like I said, 825 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 4: you add those little those veteran pieces, those veteran guys. 826 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like in there your depth, 827 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: that's your depth comes into play because you're right now, 828 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: your team currently constructed is a good enough team obviously 829 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 4: to play in the NFC Championship game. So now you 830 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: just start. Now I can pick and choose where I 831 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 4: want to. Oh, I want to I want to get 832 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 4: I want to get real specific there, right, if I 833 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 4: want to do a third down pass Russian specialist, if 834 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 4: I or if I want to go put a little 835 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: bit of money in. You know, there's a there's a 836 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 4: there's an offensive lineman that I really like that I'm saying, 837 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 4: you know what, this might this might be the finishing 838 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 4: touch here. I'm not so I'm not going into this 839 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: thing so desperate for my draft isn't desperate. My off 840 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 4: season spending and choosing isn't desperate. I don't have a 841 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 4: pluthoro of needs that I'm going into. So I just 842 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 4: say all that to look at it and go, you know, 843 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 4: when they come back next year, when Philly comes back 844 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 4: next year, like they're they're coming back already locked and 845 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 4: loaded and just moving on. Uh from there. We already 846 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 4: seen it, and I know that Philly will have catch 847 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 4: issue down the road, whatever that comes to about. But 848 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 4: but the way how he's done it in Philly has 849 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 4: been like, won't worry about that when that day comes. 850 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: But right now everybody ms was going to happen all 851 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: the cap. 852 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 4: They'd be down for have it down year, one year, 853 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 4: come back up, read it back up, be bad for 854 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 4: a year. You know, and then Boom were back at 855 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 4: it again. 856 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 6: But how big of a deal before we get out 857 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 6: of here, is it that, uh, Fossil went to the 858 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 6: Titans for the same, the same. 859 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: What happened with that? Did you get it? Inside scoop 860 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: all night? While Fossil jumped. 861 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 10: There were reports that he they wanted him to come back, 862 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 10: but whatever reason, they. 863 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 4: Just I think that's a telling sign too that a 864 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: guy you have arguably the best kicker in the league, 865 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 4: give or take right, you can that's an argument debatable. 866 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 4: You have the best pump kick return in the league. 867 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 4: I don't know how much you want a debate on that, 868 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 4: whether come on the conversation, right, he's in the conversation, 869 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, Like he ain't. He 870 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: ain't out of the top two or three. It neither 871 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 4: is Brandon Aubrey. And for a special teams guy that 872 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 4: is that's like having an elite quarterback. You know what 873 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I got a kicker and a specialist and 874 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 4: he goes, I'm gonna go to a team who had 875 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 4: the worst record than the team I just left. Like 876 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 4: that just tells you a little bit about how maybe 877 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 4: some of these guys are feeling when it comes to 878 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 4: all that is amy umbrella. 879 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 5: Personal brand standpoint, Like the brand doesn't get any bigger 880 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 5: than you know, you're on TV more, there's more recognition 881 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 5: if you're wanting to elevate your career. 882 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 4: This is not a good look right now, just not 883 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 4: a good look all across the board. 884 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 9: For he had to deal, he had to take it. 885 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 10: He couldn't wait, what if, what if the Cowboys offer 886 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 10: this or how much or whatever? 887 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 9: So I can't blame him. 888 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, moving moving, moving quick around and I had a 889 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 7: few people fast be like, man, how's going. I'm like, 890 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 7: I can't a man in that feeling. Bro, Well, if 891 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 7: I'm walking past people. 892 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing, I'm hype. 893 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 7: I'm forgetting what they're going through as coaches and staff and. 894 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 4: They don't they don't know, they don't know. 895 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 7: And they're like, well, you know, pray for him, And like, bro, 896 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 7: I'll you want to grab him right there and go 897 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 7: to the knees, causey gonna take everything we got, you. 898 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. 899 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,959 Speaker 7: Wow, I just felt when when the guy walked away, 900 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 7: I just felt so bad. 901 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: I may I may Kurt sit out with the Kirk, 902 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: but I. 903 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 9: Mean is that a big loss though? 904 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 10: With your special teams coordinator, I mean that maybe don't 905 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 10: have quite as big an impact as your offensive decent 906 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 10: defensive coordinator. 907 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 9: But still he was seemed to. 908 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 7: Be he ran the practices in in in training camp. 909 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that ain't nothing. You get another guy against the run. 910 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 4: I mean, hey, for whatever special teams brought good battling different, 911 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 4: it was on the it was on the back of bones. 912 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 7: I know my Joe Avazon was my man d Camilla's 913 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 7: you you learned. 914 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: A good one's name. Yeah, you know. And they have 915 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: power around the league. Yes, they do. Well. 916 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 5: We might have some completely different conversations next week or 917 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 5: guess what might be. 918 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 4: Asking the same old questions. 919 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 5: It depends on what happens in the next week is 920 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 5: going to be interesting, that's for sure. 921 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: Assume so you're saying next week we have a coaching Yeah. 922 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 6: You think we have a coach with about telling the 923 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 6: show next week? 924 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 4: For sure? Hand you think you think by Monday. 925 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 10: Before we hit the weekend, you don't think they'll wait 926 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 10: to interview Kingsbury or any of these other guys Joe 927 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 10: Brady or somebody. 928 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: You think you think the name names that have been 929 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 4: brought up. It's gonna be one. 930 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: Of mister Moore. 931 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 4: And no that's not Brian, Brian Smarty's boy. 932 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 5: You actually really he really thought that was trade Daddy. 933 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 4: That wasn't a bit. 934 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 6: All right fellas well. 935 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 5: Hopefully we have a coach this time next week, so 936 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 5: we have a lot to talk about and can fill 937 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 5: an hour. 938 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: If not, I love it, Jesse, callback I get to 939 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,479 Speaker 1: spend some time. 940 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 5: Tune in to find out or you'll know by then. 941 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 5: Tune in to hear what we have to say about 942 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 5: it next week. 943 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 4: When's the Super Bowl February ninth. 944 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 5: February ninth, so conference championship games this weekend, right week 945 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 5: off and then super Bowl the week. 946 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 6: After that, so we'll have stuff to talk about for 947 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 6: a while. 948 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: Work on you, Sarah, Capday you goods, you were paying 949 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: a few of Doug. 950 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 4: We will be back. Jesse. 951 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 6: Good seeing you, Kurt, good seeing you, Nate, good seeing you, Chris. 952 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 6: Thanks for keeping us on the air, Jazz Josh, thanks 953 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 6: for keeping him comping in the back. 954 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 4: We will be back next Thursday. On Hanging with the Boys. 955 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 956 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football club 957 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 5: Y