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Speaker 1: The Dunks here on the Athletic Podcast Network, where we're

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Speaker 1: gonna put a little bow on everything free agency and

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Speaker 1: some little things will happen over the weekend. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: just tear that bow up. We'll do it again on Monday.

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Speaker 1: That's right, why not, I'm tat mouse with me. It's

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Speaker 1: the man in the middle, Trey Kirby a A yo.

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Speaker 1: And as always, it's the man making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Tad late on the A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot on the go, A lot of buttons

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Speaker 3: over here, Hello, hello j D. And as far as

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Speaker 3: the intro goes, yeah, people are loving it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to give you that. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: That's the last we'll be seeing probably maybe next week.

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Speaker 1: We'll see next year, we'll see if we squeeze in listen,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to all that free agency you see stuff.

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Speaker 2: But first little.

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Speaker 1: Reminder, Vegas show next week, Vegas maybe going to Mandalay

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Speaker 1: Bay the Sports book room. Should be exciting. July eleventh,

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Speaker 1: four pm.

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Speaker 4: It's free. We'll see you there. Yeah, I'll see you there.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you there.

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Speaker 4: What do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. Yeah, we're yeah, we will see.

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Speaker 4: You have any ideas, let us know. We'll talk about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As far as what we're going to talk about in

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Speaker 1: this show, later we'll talk about where Damian Lillard should go,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown named as head coach to the New York Nicks,

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Speaker 1: and other tiny little signings like Duncan Robinson to the Pistons.

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Speaker 1: There's some off court stuff with Michael Beasley we'll talk about,

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Speaker 1: like some actual news I do Michael Beasley again, Michael Beasley.

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Speaker 1: That Michael Beasley Dwight Howard video where Michael Beasley is

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Speaker 1: talking about Dwight Howard's old relationship with Michael Beasley's sister.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's in my brain anyways. Other off court stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's other off court stuff we will.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot off court stuff, And honestly, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of on court stuff with Michael Beasley. I do

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Speaker 4: from the Big Three. The guy's still a bucket. He's

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Speaker 4: the NBA right now. Is he coming back? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Should a team take a chance on Michael Beasley stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: The guy can score, Yeah, yeah, all that stuff, raptors stuff.

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Speaker 1: But first let's do winners and losers of NBA free

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Speaker 1: agency in general trade?

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to start with winners?

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Speaker 4: Easy? Winner the Houston Rockets because I'm factoring, and the

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant trade as well. So basically, the Rockets have

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Speaker 4: added Durant, Dorian Finney, Smith, and Clint Capella. Say them

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Speaker 4: all together, that's a lot of old guys, but they're

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Speaker 4: a team that can use some veteranship. I believe they

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Speaker 4: obviously lost Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks in the trade

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Speaker 4: with the Suns as well. Fred Van Vliek coming back

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Speaker 4: on a pretty smart deal, a good deal for him,

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Speaker 4: getting a little bit like five million dollars UH extra money,

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Speaker 4: but it's two years twenty five per for the Rockets,

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Speaker 4: which makes things a little easier from a team building standpoint.

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Speaker 4: They brought back all of their end of the bench

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Speaker 4: And they're betting on Reed Shepherd as a backup point

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Speaker 4: He needs to get a chance at some point, so

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Speaker 4: some prospects they can trade, Like I've seen rumors of

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Speaker 4: That would be an awesome pickup for the Rockets. Ta

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Speaker 4: I think they and we'll get to the Nuggets here

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Speaker 4: I think it's been perfect so far for the Rockets.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Rockets far better the Western Conference looking lethal.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder about the guard play. It's totally true.

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Speaker 1: Because if you look at Kevin Durant's shots and where

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Speaker 4: But he's he's theology.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be able to take it to the

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Speaker 4: Are at the rim. What is he going to do?

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Speaker 1: That I would assume trade very interesting. It seems like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does feel like the Rockets could still use

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Speaker 4: so great stuff for the Rockets. They've been pretty patient

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Speaker 4: They said, we're going to see how it goes and

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Speaker 1: Totally true, tiny tiny nerdy note here, the Durant trade

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Speaker 1: sources have told the Athletic that now a lot of

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Speaker 4: That kind of thing. It's going to be a crazy

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Speaker 1: Nuggets because they are clearly a winner of free agency.

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Speaker 2: The best player in the world.

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Speaker 1: Nikoli Jokic was able to take Oka See to seven games.

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Speaker 1: I should say he had some help, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: like Cedric Coward, I think is going to play a

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Speaker 1: lot like I know only have kentivious cult withal Pope,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder how much he's going to play in general.

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Speaker 2: He is, he's there, he's going to be there for

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Speaker 2: two more years.

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Speaker 1: But I think the point is to get Cedric Calendar

432
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Speaker 1: and Jealen Wells a ton of minutes around those other

433
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Speaker 1: two guys. So if you've got those two guys supporting

434
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Speaker 1: Morant and Jared Jackson junior, those guys can take as

435
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Speaker 1: many shots as they want because Coward uh and Jalen

436
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Speaker 1: Wells don't have to shoot all that much. And so

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Speaker 1: I think the design makes a heck of a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. And I'm excited to see Cedric Coward. It's

439
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Speaker 1: kind of flies under the red that he was a senior.

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Speaker 1: He's he's an older college player, and he's an incredible defender,

441
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Speaker 1: a small forward or wing, whatever you want to call him,

442
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Speaker 1: that they've been looking for forever, and so he fits

443
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Speaker 1: perfectly all the headlines. Where fortunate time that Malik Andrew's

444
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Speaker 1: calling calling Coward all right, So I called Malik Beezy

445
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 1: Michael Beasley multiple times in the last couple of days.

446
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Speaker 1: It's totally fine to do that. This guy is an

447
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Speaker 1: incredible player. I'm very interested to see how they retool.

448
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Speaker 1: It's a good way of looking at it. Memphis Grizzlies

449
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Speaker 1: could have just said, I thing gotta work morent A

450
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Speaker 1: lot of off court stuff has happened with him it's

451
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Speaker 1: not going to work.

452
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Speaker 2: And just tried to rebuild it.

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Speaker 1: But it is exciting that they've gone the retool mode

454
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Speaker 1: and got a coach I think who is just going

455
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Speaker 1: to put the pressure on Morant to handle a lot

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Speaker 1: Andrear and Jackson Junior.

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Speaker 2: So excited for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see what they look like. Health is going

459
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Speaker 4: to be a big concern for the Grizzlies as it

460
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Speaker 4: has been. It feels like for the past three seasons

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Speaker 4: they've just been so banged up with big injuries, little

462
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Speaker 4: injuries as well just not being able to keep their

463
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Speaker 4: same team out there. So yeah, bounce back season for job,

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Speaker 4: bounce back season for KCP, and the Grizzlies are contending

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Speaker 4: for a player spot I think in the Western Conference,

466
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Speaker 4: and that doesn't sound like a great prognosis, but there's

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Speaker 4: three really good teams up top I think in the

468
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Speaker 4: West in Oka, see Denver and Houston, and then there's

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Speaker 4: a big mess in the middle of teams that are

470
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Speaker 4: going to be beefing for four through eleven or twelve.

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Speaker 1: Kind of it feels like, let's talk about one of

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Speaker 1: those teams hold on.

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Speaker 4: Before we we're gonna get the losers here in a second.

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Speaker 4: I think obviously the Hawks are a winner as well.

475
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Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about them on the show recently,

476
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Speaker 4: bringing in Porzingis Nikhil, Alexander Walker, and Luke Knard plus

477
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Speaker 4: that juicy, juicy New Orleans or Milwaukee pick for next draft.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a winner here. And then I was

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Speaker 4: gonna curious test do you consider the Milwaukee Bucks a

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Speaker 4: winner or a loser? Like this is the transition period

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Speaker 4: where we're switching from our winners to our losers. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 4: it's like the Bucks got the top free agent out there.

483
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Speaker 4: Miles Turner was the number one guy. They replaced and

484
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Speaker 4: upgraded Brook Lopez. I think that is a win for Milwaukee.

485
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Speaker 4: But when you combine Turner's contract with Damian Lillard being stretched,

486
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Speaker 4: it's going to cost basically forty eight million dollars per

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Speaker 4: season for Miles Turner to be on the Bucks. That

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00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 4: seems like an overspend to me. But maybe Jannis likes it.

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Speaker 4: Like literally, if Jannis likes it, that's all that matters,

490
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Speaker 4: because things are going to be ugly for Milwaukee regardless

491
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Speaker 4: once Jannis retires. They're still paying off the Drew Holiday trade.

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Speaker 4: Not to mention the Damian Lillard trade. There isn't a

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Speaker 4: huge future in Milwaukee whenever Janice is gone. So if

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Speaker 4: you can extend the amount of time he's here, and

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Speaker 4: if Miles Turner, a guy who apparently Yannis helped recruit

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Speaker 4: to the Bucks, if that's something that helps convince him

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Speaker 4: to stay, then I think it's totally worth it and

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Speaker 4: they're winners. But if Jannis looks at the team and

499
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Speaker 4: it says, wait a second, this isn't going how I like,

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Speaker 4: then they turn into losers. But I think they got

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Speaker 4: to roll the dice at this point, especially like you

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Speaker 4: compare him to what the Warriors have been doing. They're

503
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Speaker 4: keeping everything safe for whenever Steph Curry retires. Now he's

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Speaker 4: closer to the end of his career than Janie is.

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Speaker 4: But it feels like the Warriors are stalling out where

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Speaker 4: the Bucks are at least trying everything in their power

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Speaker 4: to keep you honest around.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think the Milwaukee Bucks are a winner

510
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I know it doesn't seem all that great,

511
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: and the team around Nastetakumpo doesn't necessarily it doesn't. It

512
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: doesn't say they're going to be a championship contender immediately,

513
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: but they had no other choice. Yes, they bought in

514
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Speaker 1: extremely hard on Damian Lillard and they were paying him

515
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Speaker 1: to be a superstar, but they had to let him

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Speaker 1: go to please anisthetic Cupo Now. And I know people

517
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Speaker 1: are saying, as he said the forty eight million dollar number,

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Speaker 1: that they have to pay Miles Turner because it costs

519
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Speaker 1: twenty two million per year to get rid of Damian Lillard. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but they're not paying Myles Turner that much. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the idea was, they paid a lot for Damian Lillard

522
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Speaker 1: to get there, and now there was no other choice.

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Speaker 1: To make Anisteta Coopo happy as soon as possible. That

524
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Speaker 1: was the only idea, to just stretching wave or waving

525
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Speaker 1: stretch them that this was their only opportunity. That's the

526
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Speaker 1: only thing they could do now that you like you

527
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Speaker 1: said sort about the Golden State Warriors will wait until

528
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Speaker 1: Steph and Jimmy retire and then we'll figure it out

529
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Speaker 1: from there. You could have just have Damian Lillard be

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Speaker 1: this fifty million dollar paid guy who doesn't play.

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Speaker 2: You could have done that, but then you go through It's.

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Speaker 4: A good point. You go through a half fifty million

533
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Speaker 4: on the on the books.

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Speaker 2: That regardless exactly, that's the way, a good way to

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Speaker 2: look at it.

536
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Speaker 1: And you have sech a cool book comes in and

537
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: walks into the locker room and says, whoa dude every

538
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Speaker 1: single day for the next three hundred sixty five days.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman is the second best player and he obviously

540
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Speaker 1: didn't pan out well, and Ken Porter Junior is his

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Speaker 1: third best player, or however you want to put it,

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Speaker 1: that's their team. That would have been their team that

543
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Speaker 1: Yanks would have had to look at every single day,

544
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Speaker 1: and that would have been a struggle. I think I

545
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Speaker 1: think I'd rather you make this attempt of having Miles

546
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Speaker 1: Turner in there with him to try and please Jannis

547
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Speaker 1: to be a five hundred team. For sure, they should

548
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: be a five hundred team. They should be above that.

549
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Speaker 1: But I'd rather do that then go forward with what

550
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Speaker 1: they had against the Indiana Pacers and the playoffs, which

551
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: was which was poops, it didn't work out. Now the

552
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: Mouser just helps them out. They obviously didn't need another guard.

553
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Speaker 1: We'll get maybe we'll just say it now, the Vasa

554
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: Miic is potentially their starting point guard.

555
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Speaker 2: Potentially they may even buy him out.

556
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he might not even be here, but I'd rather

557
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: have that than what they have.

558
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Speaker 2: The guy could pass.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be fun with the oistat of Koupo

560
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: if he's playing. He's not a good defensive player, but

561
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Speaker 1: that's Yeah. They're they're kind of short. They're short as

562
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: far as guards go, but they're they're given some things

563
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: an opportunity. They're trying our Gary's, they're trying Gary Harris,

564
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Speaker 1: they're trying other guys.

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Speaker 2: So I think this was I think this is the

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Speaker 2: only way to do it.

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Speaker 4: You convinced me. I was leaning winner. But you know,

568
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Speaker 4: if the Bucks come back this season lose Brook Lopez

569
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Speaker 4: to the Clippers, we know Lillard isn't playing, we're definitely

570
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Speaker 4: calling them losers if they are down two starters going

571
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Speaker 4: into next season with the honest thing hanging over their heads.

572
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Speaker 4: So at least they brought in the number one guy

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Speaker 4: on the market. See how it turns out. And I

574
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Speaker 4: don't know, if Giannis is helping get Miles Turner to

575
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Speaker 4: his team, you have to think he's going to be

576
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: enthused that he actually signed the deal. So yeah, let's

577
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Speaker 4: see how you know, it's just gonna be weird for

578
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Speaker 4: the Bucks. Yeah, someday Jannis won't be there and it

579
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: will be ugly. But then guess what, Maybe you draft

580
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: another honest yeah.

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Speaker 1: Or they can reel him in to stay their first career.

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00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: There's a chance that that happens. They had no other

583
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: way of addressing this. You could say John Horse maybe

584
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: gave up too much for Damian Lillard in the first place.

585
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: That's a fair point, but going into the twenty five

586
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: to twenty six season, there was no other way of

587
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: navigating this other than saying, Damian Lillard, you're waived and stretched.

588
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: You could hope that I guess that he would have

589
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: came back in twenty six twenty seven and been a

590
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: great player. But I, along with I'm sure a lot

591
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: of medical people or people who've watched Damian Lillard as

592
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: far as a basketball player last couple of years, they

593
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: don't see the same Dame. No, he's not the same guy, unfortunately.

594
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Speaker 1: So I think this was smart in a weird way.

595
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch. I think he'll be happy.

596
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: Next a big stretchy, big stretchy contract.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the losers.

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00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: Let's start.

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00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Los Angeles Lakers. Official. Are they

600
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Speaker 2: an official loser trade? I did?

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Speaker 4: I did?

602
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: I did?

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00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: I think.

605
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: You go into the offseason and Lebron James says, all right,

606
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm coming back, and his agent says, listen, I know

607
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: this forty year old guy is coming back, but he

608
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: wants to win. Essentially, that's their statement, that's his statement.

609
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Is an agent publishes this thing that says Lebron's good,

610
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: he's coming back, he's gonna be with you. But you

611
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: know what, he's so good. He wants to win right here,

612
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: right now. You start with that, and then what do

613
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Speaker 1: you add? You add Jake Laravia instead of Dorian Finney Smith,

614
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: who leaves. I've watched Jake Loravia. I've watched him front

615
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Nikolai Jokicic. He gets after it, he can shoot the

616
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: ball a little bit, but he ain't Dorian Finney Smith.

617
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: So they got weaker on the defensive end, There's no

618
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: doubt about that. And we'll talk about DeAndre in the

619
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: second and what he can do. But just overall, when

620
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: they made the Luka donct trade, the two things that

621
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: we were looking for were better defense and a bigger team.

622
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: They did not get better defensively, losing Dorian Finney Smith,

623
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Speaker 1: who can guard basically every position except five, but he

624
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: can guard everybody. Jake Lravey is going to come in.

625
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I know he's Austin Reeves bud, and he made the

626
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: announcement that he was going to the Los Angeles Lakers

627
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: while Austin Reeves was in the car with him a

628
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: front off of Sports doing a little podcast with those

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00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: two guys. Cool, but that doesn't mean he's a good

630
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: basketball player, good enough of a basketball player to take Lebron,

631
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: James and Luca to another level. They're not a better

632
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: defensive team than when they made the Luka doncich S trade.

633
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: They're just they're fine, but losing Dorian Finney Smith hurts.

634
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: And then we get into Lebron in general. We talked

635
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: about it as soon as fregency happened, and whether or

636
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: not Lebron could possibly be moved after seeing the Rich

637
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Paul statement. I didn't buy at first, put the more

638
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: you look at it, I'm starting to believe it a

639
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: tad bit more, just because Lebron may be playing his

640
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: last season. This might be his last one and maybe

641
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: he wants to play somewhere else. The tough part is

642
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: all the math is getting a big enough contract coming

643
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: back to the Los Angeles Lakers, Like what Champ, what

644
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: really good team is going to give up forty million

645
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: dollars in salary to get Lebron. That means you're giving

646
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: up a good player. So that's that's the puzzling part.

647
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: But sitting here now after watching what the Lakers did,

648
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: and we just talked about, okay, see Denver and Houston

649
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: and the really good teams in the Western Conference, the

650
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Lakers ain't anywhere close to that.

651
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree, I don't think they are or

652
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: have gotten closer to that. But I'm a little I'm

653
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: a minor zag on what the Lakers did. I do

654
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: think Dorian Finney Smith is the best player between hind

655
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: La Ravia and DeAndre Ayton, But what the Lakers essentially

656
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: did was turn dfs's contract into Jake Laurabia, who is

657
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: eight younger, and DeAndre Ayton, who's definitely better than Jackson Hayes. Yes,

658
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: so if I'm a Lakers fan, I'm not necessarily happy,

659
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: but I would say we got younger, we got more athletic,

660
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: and we upgraded our weakest position. The next move for

661
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: the Lakers is go and get Marvin Bagley because it

662
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: would be very funny to have the top three picks

663
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: from the twenty eighteen draft in Ayton, Bagley, and Luca.

664
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: And guess what. Bagley would be helpful for the Lakers.

665
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: He's a rim runner, he's a center, he's a fast guy.

666
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 4: He has also an LA guy, So you know, it

667
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: would be a kind of like a Meme signing. But

668
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: I don't think it would hurt the Lakers. So yeah,

669
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: I mean not ideal for LA just because this is

670
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: a team that wants to bring in stars. They've got

671
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: the Lebron thing hanging over their head. I'm with you.

672
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: I doubt he gets traded just because the teams that

673
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: would want to trade for Lebron are teams that are

674
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: theoretically in title contention and think he's the final piece

675
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: to put them over the top, which means it's going

676
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: to be hard for them to get enough contracts, enough

677
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: money back to send to LA. And that's without factoring

678
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: and things like whether that team may or may not

679
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: be over the first or the second apron what they're

680
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 4: allowed to do. So yeah, the Lakers didn't have a

681
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: great offseason. I think we're definitely seeing that this team

682
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: is more tilted towards a Luca timeline than Lebron, because

683
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how Lebron, says Jake Laarabian. DeAndre Ayton

684
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: here now we've got a chance, yeah, in the Western Conference.

685
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: But JJ Reddick was playing five guys in a playoff

686
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: game last like two months ago, right, he played four

687
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: of his five starters like twenty four minutes of the

688
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: second half of a playoff game. They ran out of steam,

689
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: and everybody's like, you can't do this, JJ. Now, it's

690
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: gonna be funny to see him working with DeAndre Ayton

691
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: and a guy who's not always the most doesn't have

692
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: the strongest motor at all times. It's probably gonna drive

693
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: JJ insane. But they turned one player into two, both

694
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: younger guys. I think that actually helps la.

695
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

696
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: The the problem is JJ Redick is going to ask

697
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton to run back on defense. He's going to

698
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: ask him to set picks and work hard, and we

699
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to happen. And I think

700
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: that's that is that is the puzzling part. Will do

701
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: andre Aiden suddenly revert back to what he was with

702
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns and be who he was.

703
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: That's the puzzling part.

704
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Now you can say Lebron James has done that for

705
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: NBA players in the past who weren't playing to their capability,

706
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: and Lebron at the leading a locker room might be

707
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: able to do that. That's possible, but you will have

708
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: an offense and defense frankly supported or ran around I

709
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: should say Lebron and Luca. Defensively, you need guys who

710
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: can guard everybody. I don't think Jake Laravi can do that.

711
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayden can't do that, and so yeah, you got.

712
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: You kind of traded one for two guys because they

713
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: didn't rely on Jackson Hayes to play.

714
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: They benched him.

715
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: They benched him. Now he may be the backup center.

716
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: He may come back as the backup center. Now at

717
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: least you have a guy that they're going to play,

718
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: I guess. But there have been many, which is in

719
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: NBA history. I mean a few, not many, that have

720
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: said down Drayton. Yeah, it's any Worgan, this isn't good.

721
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: You got, We're benching you like Moni Williams did with

722
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns.

723
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: We've got a venture.

724
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: We got to so we'll see if they can do that.

725
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: Now five years ago, it's almost five years when they

726
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: went to the finals against the Milwaukee Bucks.

727
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: He was good.

728
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was good. Yeah. So you saw the Shams

729
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: tweet putting up his playoff stats alongside the deal that

730
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: he signed and not mentioning that he's there on basically

731
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: a veteran's minimum because he decided to get bought out

732
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: from his last contract. The bet on aton is weird,

733
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: like nobody is anticipating him bouncing back to where he

734
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: was with Phoenix, But this is a pretty decent scenario

735
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: for him to be in. He played much better playanoff

736
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: stars and smart guys in Phoenix than he did in Portland,

737
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: where there was a lot bigger expectations for him coming

738
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: back in the Damian Lillard trade, kind of being the

739
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: centerpiece there, even though Toumani Kamara ended up being the

740
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: better get for the Blazers. So I'm not anticipating a

741
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: lot from Ayton. But you look at the team, they're

742
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: better than they were I think at the end of

743
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 4: the season when they had five guys in the rotation.

744
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I always say Dorian Finney Smith has been traded for

745
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: two guys or you know, you sub him out for

746
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: two guys. But Jake Loravia has never been anywhere close

747
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: to Dorian Finney Smith. Is he going to be able

748
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: to play thirty minutes a game? They were going to

749
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: ask a lot of Jake Laavia. He's never been that

750
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: steady of player in the NBA.

751
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

752
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean, eighton, is how much

753
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: better than Jackson Hayes.

754
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: Definitely, Yeah, definitely.

755
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: So we'll see what JJ Redick is going to ask

756
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: him to play hard and go close to the rim

757
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: and play you'd be a repellent on the defensive end.

758
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 1: We'll see if he can do that also to drive

759
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: at the rim on the offensive end.

760
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

761
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: JJ Redick was just said, no, Jackson Hayes, you're out.

762
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: We're going small, We're going five smalls.

763
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: Now. If that happens again, they don't have those guys.

764
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: I thought they would have been better off with Dorrian

765
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Finney Smith over Jake Larravia playing a small ball five

766
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: or small ball four or whatever. So we'll see what

767
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: Jake Loriyah can do, and we'll see the relationship between

768
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Reddick and and Eyton.

769
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: Look, when we're talking about how good Jake Larrabia and

770
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: DeAndre Ayton can be, you can tell it's not a

771
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: great offseason for the Yankers.

772
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Another offseason that wasn't that great Golden State Warriors trade.

773
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: This was year pick. Yeah, I haven't done. This was

774
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: an easy one. The Warriors are literally one of two

775
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: teams who haven't done a single thing in the postseason.

776
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: The Pacers are the other one, and they kind of

777
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: got caught off guard with Tyres Haliburton injury and then

778
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: Myles Turner deciding to go away. The only thing that

779
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: the Lake or the Warriors have done so far they

780
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: lost Cavon Looney to the Pelicans. I think more of

781
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: an emotional loss than an on court loss for Golden State.

782
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: And then they drafted Kobe Bray number forty one. That's

783
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: it so far. They're chasing out Horford, which would be

784
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: a good fit for the Golden State Warriors. He can

785
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: play both sides of the ball. He's a stretch five,

786
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: which they had success with Quenton Post last season, and

787
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: Horford is a better player than Quentin Post. But he's

788
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: also somehow the only free agent that the Warriors could

789
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 4: sign it and get older. This is an ancient team.

790
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: They've still got the Jonathan Minga question mark. No team

791
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: is offering the deals that he wants. There's basically no

792
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: teams left for him that have cap space after the

793
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: Nets did the Michael Porter junior deal. The Warriors don't

794
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: value Jonathan Kaminga, at least the coaching staff doesn't. Maybe

795
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: the front office cares about him a little bit more,

796
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: but it seems like that might be setting itself up

797
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: for yet another awkward season where Jonathan Minga comes back

798
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: to the Warriors because there's nowhere else for him to be,

799
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: and then he's in trade rumors once again. He wants

800
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: to be able to get the ball and do his

801
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 4: own thing. They wanted to play in the system and

802
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: it doesn't work out. You look at the Western Conference, Okay,

803
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: see is the champs. They're bringing everybody back. They'll probably

804
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: be as good or better next season with internal growth.

805
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: Houston and Denver got better, Minnesota running it back. They

806
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: did lose Nikhil Alexander Walker, but everybody else is there

807
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: and they're betting on their young guys to take a

808
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 4: step forward. I think Golden State is in the mix

809
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 4: with both LA teams, the Clippers and the Lakers. They're

810
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: probably ahead, I would say of Memphis, Dallas, San Antonio,

811
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: and Sacramento. I mean, they do still have Curry, a

812
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: full season of Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green, assuming those

813
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: guys stay healthy. Still a good team. But it still

814
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: feels like the Warriors are stuck in that are we

815
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: gonna make the sixth seed or are we going to

816
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 4: be the seventh seed in the play in tournament? And

817
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: that's where they've been since they won the championship in

818
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. So it just feels like the Warriors

819
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: took a step forward getting Jimmy Butler. I thought they

820
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: would be a little bit more active during the off season,

821
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: wanting to really go all in on the last couple

822
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: of years of the Curry era, and instead it feels

823
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: like they're just waiting around. Jimmy Butler fell into their

824
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 4: laps at the trade deadline. He wanted to go to Phoenix.

825
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 4: It didn't happen. They had the pieces to make it

826
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: make the trade a reality for Golden State. So maybe

827
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: further down the line, Jannisnta Takunpo is able the size

828
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: he wants out of Milwaukee and Golden State is able

829
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: to seize that opportunity. I suppose that could happen, but

830
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 4: this feels more like last summer when they were chasing

831
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 4: after Paul George. They were chasing after Lowry Markinen and

832
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 4: nothing happened, and then they had to make the trade

833
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: for Jimmy Butler. It worked out for him, but I

834
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: think it's just so like a real tightrope walking act

835
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 4: here for the Warriors, where they're like, oh, just wait,

836
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: this star might come available and we might be the

837
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: ones who are able to seize on the opportunity and

838
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: trade for him. As of now, the Warriors aren't getting

839
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: left behind in the Western Conference. Their big move was

840
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 4: the Jimmy Butler move at the trade deadline, but the

841
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: rest of the West is getting better and the Warriors

842
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: are just getting older.

843
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and here we have the Jonathan Kameninga thing that

844
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: still hasn't happened.

845
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: It looks like that's going to be a sign in trade. Now.

846
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: You may say, well, can they get somebody really good

847
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: back for Jonathan Kaminga. You can only get half of

848
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: what Kminga will be paid back in that trade because

849
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: of base year compensation rules. In the CBA and our

850
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: man John Holland are pointed out because a lot of

851
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: these deals have not happened quite yet. He could be

852
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: dealt out and again some money will be available, and

853
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: it could be part of a whole other big thing

854
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: where Malik Monk could be sent out from the Sacramento

855
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: Kings if Jonathan Kuminga is sent there. It's complicated, but

856
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: maybe the wars can can somehow get their hands on

857
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: somebody else.

858
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: But it's it looks like it's just gonna be out Horford.

859
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Monk would be awesome.

860
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: Get for them.

861
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: He would be I mean he would fit into the

862
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: Jordan Pool role from the championship year where he can

863
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: play alongside Curry when Curry's on the court, and then

864
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: somebody can handle the ball and get some shots and

865
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: create for others. Like you're saying, pretty complicated for that

866
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: to happen with Sacramento, but you know, you don't put

867
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: a past Sacramento. They'll they'll get anybody who can dribble

868
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: the ball.

869
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like as far as Hollinger or puts it,

870
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: that Monk would get to Detroit and Kuminga would get

871
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: to Sacramento. Wars would have a room to get Horford

872
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: and that's it. That being I don't like that as much,

873
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: not as much.

874
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 4: So, I mean, Horford will be good for the Warriors,

875
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: and it definitely seems like that's where he's gonna go. Yeah,

876
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: but man, that guy's old too.

877
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: He is old.

878
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: It is unfortunate on that end.

879
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: They just they got old, and we could see it

880
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: in the playoffs when they played Minnesota. You got to

881
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: play four playoff series to be an incredible team, and

882
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: that's rigging hard. So we'll see what happens there. All right,

883
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: let's move on to We just talked about Damian Lillard

884
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. We've snuck him in with the Bucks.

885
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: We're wondering if they are a winner or actual loser.

886
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Damian Lillard the player. Where do you

887
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: think he ends up signing and who should get who

888
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: should go get him.

889
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: It's an interesting situation because Dame Lillard is getting paid

890
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: all his money, so he can basically choose, here's where

891
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: I want to sign on whatever kind of deal, Like

892
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: will he take a veteran minimum? Maybe? Will he be

893
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: on like a bi annual exception? Who knows, But it

894
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: kind of opens up the entire NBA. I feel like

895
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: for Damian Lillard to choose if he wants to sign

896
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: this year for a year of rehab or if he

897
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: just wants to take a gap year and then decide next.

898
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: I suppose there are like a few different spots, Like

899
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: Portland can offer him being home, you know, like that's

900
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: where his family is. He could rehab with the Blazers.

901
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: He can tutor guys like Scoot Henderson, Shaden Sharp. He

902
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: can tutor Drew Holiday, you know, teach him all the

903
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: different things about They can talk about their favorite things

904
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: of Milwaukee, cheese, curd smars, cheese castle, things of this nature.

905
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: Golden State can offer him his childhood home growing up

906
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: in Oakland. And then, like it would be cool to

907
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: have Damian Lillard as a potential playoff wild card. I

908
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: don't know how the timing would work out. And man,

909
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: it's a big ask for Dame Willard to come back

910
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: from an achilles injury, and some of that you're playing

911
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: as Steph Curry's back up and sometimes alongside Steph Curry.

912
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: That's kind of weird. Miami, they got a great training staff.

913
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 4: They've been after Lillard for quite some time. They're very

914
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: close to Balco as well, so if he wants to

915
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: get illegal with it, maybe that helps out Damian Lillard

916
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: and the Heat. But my favorite spot for Lillard is Boston.

917
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: I think they're already taking a gap year this next season.

918
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: They would be able to let Jason Tatum and Damian

919
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: Lillard rehab their Achilles injuries together. They just traded Drew Holliday,

920
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 4: so there is an opening at the point guard spot

921
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: for the twenty six to twenty seven season when Lillard

922
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: comes back healthy and you know, we don't know what

923
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: he's going to look like as a player because he

924
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: has taken a little bit of a step back kind

925
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 4: of starting with his core muscle injuries with the Blazers,

926
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: still All Star with the Bucks and coming back from

927
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: an achilles injury, at the very least Lillard is going

928
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: to be able to shoot. They would be able to

929
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: cover for him defensively with Derek White as a perimeter defender.

930
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: The downside is he's on the complete other side of

931
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: the country and it feels like he's trying to get

932
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 4: back towards the West Coast. But from like a basketball

933
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: getting healthy and then having a chance at a ring

934
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: going forward. Boston might be the best bet for Damian Lillard.

935
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: I do agree Boston is where they should go. The

936
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: timeline just works out so well. Damian Lillard is not

937
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: going to play next year, or if he does, towards

938
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: the end of next season, he's not going to be

939
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: anywhere close to himself. So come back in twenty sis

940
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: twenty seven when his man Jason Tatum, the guy right

941
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: beside him, will be coming back at the exact same time.

942
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: I think the timeline works out so well they will

943
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: be ready to be a championship contender in twenty six

944
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Those two guys and Jalen Brown and

945
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: everyone around them makes so much sense.

946
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: I think the.

947
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: Role works extremely well because Tatum and Brown are your

948
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: one two type of guys, and Lillard will be thirty

949
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: six at that point. It just makes so much more sense.

950
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: Is this a time in Damian Lillard's career where he

951
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: will be able.

952
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: To accept that.

953
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know where he would take such a step back,

954
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: but after the surgery, after the injury, maybe maybe that's

955
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: a chance. And the finances work, as you said, they

956
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: don't have to pay him a ton. They could literally

957
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: pay him a minimum to go along with his twenty

958
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: two mil that he's making per year. Now, actually, I

959
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: take that back, So he was signed for fifty plus

960
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: million for the next two seasons.

961
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: He gets paid that, right, he gets his whole contract.

962
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, okay, So it's not like what the Milwaukee

963
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: Bucks are doing where they pay twenty two per year

964
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: in terms of they don't pay it, but that's what

965
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: counts against the cap twenty two per year. Damian Lillard

966
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: gets the money up front. I'm just trying to think,

967
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: is Damian Lillard's financial advisor. We want to get money

968
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: right here up now, up front. But if he gets

969
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: it upfront, then all good. He can take whatever he

970
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: wants as a supplementary income. So I think Boston just

971
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: makes the most sense and he can finally get to

972
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: a point where he can win a championship again two

973
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: years from now. If Tatum is back and Jaylen Brown

974
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: is still there, which I assume he will still be there,

975
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: they could be a championship team. They could be a

976
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: team that's a contender. So I think that's the best

977
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: one of all of them. Because the Warriors, as we've

978
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: talked about, they're older and we're going to add Damian

979
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: Lillard two years from now. Essentially, that's that's beyond ancient.

980
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: This one makes the most sense to me.

981
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, be interesting to see, and it'll be interesting to

982
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: see how soon it gets done, because I mean there's

983
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: really no rush from the Allard right now. He could

984
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: sign it anytime. So cool.

985
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: All right, stay in the east. Here is something that

986
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: happened over the weekend. We got to get to it

987
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: over the weekend. When did it happened? When I'm I

988
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: saying over the weekend?

989
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: Yesterday?

990
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: We have all these days blend together. Mike Brown has

991
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: been named head coach of the New York Knicks.

992
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: What do you think, Tran, Yeah, he was Look, Mike

993
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: Brown has coached a lot of great players. He was

994
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: Lebron's coach, he was Kobe's coach. He was an assistant

995
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 4: coach with Steph Curry. He got to coach DeMar de

996
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: Rosen and Zach Levine. What a lucky guy. Always good

997
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 4: for a funny press conference per season when he gets

998
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: really heated at the referees. So I think the spotlight

999
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: in New York will get us at least two funny

1000
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: press conferences for Mike Brown. I just don't really know

1001
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: what to expect from him, because to me, Mike Brown

1002
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: is a defense first coach. But that's only because my

1003
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: first impression of him was from those Lebron teams where

1004
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: it was like, Lebron, you're our offense. We're building a

1005
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: perfect defense around you. Can you get us to the

1006
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: Promised Land? They came up short. But then in Sacramento,

1007
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 4: after his tenure winning championships with the Warriors, he learned

1008
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 4: from Steve Kerr and the offense built them up as

1009
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 4: an offense first team. Never really able to get things

1010
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 4: going defensively in Sacramento. So I don't necessarily know which

1011
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: side he favors, But if the Knicks are thinking he

1012
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 4: favors the offense, I think that's good for New York

1013
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 4: because that, to me, is where they can take the

1014
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: biggest step forward. They were a good offense last year.

1015
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: At times they were a great offense. I just think

1016
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard to build a good defense with

1017
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson as the starting point guard in Karl Anthony

1018
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: Towns as the starting center. Just not the personnel to

1019
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: build up on that side of the ball. So you

1020
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: need to really outscore teams on the other end. And

1021
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: I think Mike Brown was pretty creative offensively with Sacramento

1022
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 4: and was flexible to become an offense coach and build

1023
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: a team around dribble handoffs and at the time year

1024
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: in Fox's speed right Like, he did a good job

1025
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 4: in Sacramento until he ran out of time. So I

1026
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: wasn't like super enthused about the Knicks getting Mike Brown,

1027
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 4: Like he doesn't seem like a serious upgrade to me

1028
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 4: over Tom Thibodeau. The point or the goal right now

1029
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: for the Knicks is to make it to the finals,

1030
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 4: to win the championship. They just made it back to

1031
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 4: the conference finals for the first time in twenty five

1032
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: years and said you're out of here, Tom, that's not

1033
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: good enough. There's an opportunity in the Eastern Conference for

1034
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 4: a team to be a surprise team in the East.

1035
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: Right now, it kind of feels like, if you can

1036
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: beat the Calves, you can make it to the NBA Finals.

1037
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: I think the Knicks have a chance against the Calves.

1038
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: I don't think that Mike Brown hurts them in any way,

1039
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: But I don't necessarily know that this is a huge

1040
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 4: needle moving move for New York to go from Tibbs

1041
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 4: to Mike. Yeah, in the New York City media, is

1042
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: Mike Brown going to be the guy that.

1043
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: Gets all the headlines?

1044
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: No, We'll get to other tiny little signings in the

1045
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: NBA in a second, but I think this kind of

1046
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: is classified as that because it's Mike Brown. But that

1047
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: being said, as far as the basketball goes, I think

1048
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: the Knicks want a few things from their head coach.

1049
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 1: They want everybody to touch the ball more offensively, first

1050
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: and foremost, they don't want it just going through Jalen

1051
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns. And I think Mike Brown,

1052
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: as he said, with the Golden State Warriors where Corea

1053
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: was running off the ball, he has been part of

1054
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: those offenses. And I think that's a definitely a great,

1055
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: great positive thing that you can look at Mike Brown

1056
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: and say, just do that. Just don't have Jalen bring

1057
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: up the ball as much. And I will say Jalen

1058
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: took fewer shots this year, and there were times in

1059
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs where he was running off the ball more

1060
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: and things were running by through other guys. But it

1061
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: was too little, too late. I mean, that should have

1062
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: happened the entire season. I think that's what the coaches,

1063
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: or excuse me, the front office is looking for. They

1064
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: also want more players to play basketball. They want players

1065
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: to play fewer minutes amongst their starters. We heard mckel

1066
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: bridges say the bench guys are we're all dying here.

1067
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: They should be playing more. I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but

1068
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: he wanted to quote back off a bit on the

1069
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: starters minutes because the bench deserves more. And you saw

1070
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: the starters go into the post and they weren't great

1071
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: in terms of plus minus per hunter possessions. They got

1072
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: worse and so got more guys have to play, and

1073
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: I think Mike Brown will finally do that. And also,

1074
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean they want their defense adjustment of stop playing

1075
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: cat at the five. I think that's gonna be done

1076
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more through Mike Brown. I think now

1077
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: that they've signed Kershaon Yabuseli, it seems like a teeny

1078
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: tiny signing, but I think we'll see him and Mitchell

1079
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: Robinson at the five more, especially because Gershon Yabsley, specifically

1080
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: over Mitchell Robinson is a three point shooter. So it's

1081
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: a It's a modern type offense where things can be

1082
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: moved around the Balkan move be moved.

1083
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: Around, and that just has to happen. So I'm excited

1084
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: to see what.

1085
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: Mike Brown can do for the New York Knicks again,

1086
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: kind of a few days into free agency. Not the

1087
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: biggest of names, so maybe not the most headlines, considering

1088
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: it was Chason Kidd first and other guys, but I

1089
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 1: think it definitely could work and he could get the respect,

1090
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: and I think he will be good in New York,

1091
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: taking a lot of the pressure off of the players

1092
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: as well, Like he'll be good in press conferences, he'll talk,

1093
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: he'll funny, yeah, yeah, yeah, more so the.

1094
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: Fanactrical as well. Yeah, all right, and he's I think

1095
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: he's probably a little bit more creative offensively than Thebodeo is.

1096
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: So we'll see. I mean, there's still three guys in

1097
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 4: the top twenty five and minutes per game this season

1098
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 4: from the Kings, so he plays his guys a lot.

1099
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: But Yabo Sally helps. I think Jordan Clarkson will help

1100
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 4: as well. And then we saw like Shamantt was okay

1101
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, campaign was okay in the playoffs. You

1102
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: just got to play those guys a little bit so

1103
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: you don't have to play the starters thirty seven minutes

1104
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: a night.

1105
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get to some rapid fire, fine fun soon,

1106
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: but we've got some minor deals to talk about. Let's

1107
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: start with Duncan Robinson going to the Detroit Pistons three

1108
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: years for forty eight. Now, there might be a sign

1109
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: and trade or whatever, but anyways, Duncan Robinson's on the

1110
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons kind of came out of nowhere.

1111
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of came out of nowhere. He's definitely the

1112
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: beneficiary of Malik Beasley being in debt with everybody and

1113
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: being under investigation because I didn't necessarily see a sixteen

1114
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: million dollars per year contract out there for Duncan Robinson

1115
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: when he turned down. He had a player option right

1116
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: with the Miami Heat for I think nineteen million, and

1117
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: it was just kind of assumed, Okay, they're going to

1118
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: work out a longer deal for him. He'll make up

1119
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 4: his money that way. But once the Beasley thing opened

1120
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 4: up in Detroit, I think a decent replacement. I don't know.

1121
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: I don't know who I think is better as a defender,

1122
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: Duncan Robinson or Malik Beasley, but at least an equivalent shooter.

1123
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 4: I think Duncan Robinson. He shoots a ton like he

1124
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: gets like ten three pointers up per thirty six minutes,

1125
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 4: so he's gonna shoot it every time he can. He's

1126
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: a little bit older than Beasley as well, and I

1127
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: suppose there's a chance he starts in Detroit, because they'll

1128
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: start Kaid Cunningham, start Duran, they'll start Tobias Harris. I

1129
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 4: think the other three are question marks. I assume Ivy

1130
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 4: will be a starter when he comes back, and you'd

1131
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: like to get some shooting on the court. That's why

1132
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: I think Harris is going to start. He's a three

1133
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: point shooter. Ivy's not necessarily a reliable three point shooter,

1134
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: so maybe you need that guy chucking at the three

1135
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: spot between him and Usar. Thompson and Nisar obviously is

1136
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 4: the long term play, but maybe Duncan Robinson starts. So

1137
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: they kind of turned Shrewder and Beasley into Karris Lavert

1138
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: and Duncan Robinson. I don't know if it's better, I

1139
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 4: don't know if it's worse, but he's not under investigation

1140
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 4: with the federal government, so this is a win for

1141
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: the Pistons.

1142
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: I think I laugh at that but it ain't that funny.

1143
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: It seems like that scenario is getting worse and worse

1144
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: and worse. Not as far as the NBA betting, but

1145
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: as the Michael Beasley story, Michael Beasley again, he's Michael Beasley.

1146
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: Malik Beasley's story off the floor over the last year,

1147
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: aside from basketball betting, has more and more unfortunate.

1148
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: I will say.

1149
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: The Detroit News obtained public records that show that Beasley

1150
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: had part of his Pistons paychecks seized because he had

1151
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: debts mounted to a celebrity barber, a dentist, a landlord,

1152
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: a lender, and a marketing firm. He was sued by

1153
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: a landlord twice, according to the Detroit News. So reading

1154
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: that just obviously the unfortunate things seemed to add up.

1155
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: He was released by the Minnesota Timberwolves, or once upon

1156
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: a time not signed by the Minnesota Timberwolves in part

1157
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: because of off court issues, according to our John Krasinski.

1158
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: So we don't have any evidence that Malik Beasley did

1159
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: anything as far as NBA betting, but reading that on

1160
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: the Detroit News from Robert Snell and hearing all the

1161
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: other off court scenario type of stuff makes you think

1162
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: that Duncan Robinson's replacing Molie Easley. So Duncan Robinson, will

1163
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: he be able to create more space for Cad Conningham,

1164
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: you know in part I think that is true. Obviously,

1165
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: Malik bes is a great shooter too, but Duncan is

1166
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: going to do the same thing. I think he's going

1167
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: to be face guarded by defenses a lot when he

1168
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: gets out on the floor to give a little bit

1169
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: more room to Caid. But what we see the Duncan

1170
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: that drives at times because he can do that. At

1171
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: times he showed that he can put on the floor.

1172
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to do that all the time.

1173
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: He's he gonna be able to defend. That's that's a

1174
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: good question. So you're right about Karri Slavert and Duncan

1175
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Robinson replacing now Beasley here and Shrewder.

1176
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: It's a big it's a big.

1177
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, probably lateral.

1178
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably lateral. So let's move on to that

1179
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: guy I just mentioned, Dennis Shrewder. He's going to Sacramento.

1180
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: Could be part of a sign and trade again, but

1181
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: it's three years, forty five million dollars for Dennis Shrewder.

1182
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: Three seasons.

1183
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: What do you think Kings need a point guard? But

1184
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 4: this is not the guy that I necessarily would have

1185
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 4: targeted for the Kings. I think they would have been

1186
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 4: happier with a Tias Jones, strictly ball mover, three point

1187
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 4: shooting type of point guard rather than Shrewder, who is

1188
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 4: a good creator, good with the ball in his hands,

1189
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: good scorer for sure, and usually helps bad teams. Like

1190
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: it's then a Shrewder. If he's your point guard and

1191
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: you're a team that's like on the come up, that's

1192
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: the best. It didn't work out with the Warriors. There

1193
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: were some times with the Lakers where it worked. But

1194
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 4: he's definitely a let's raise our floor kind of player,

1195
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: I think. But he's just gonna take away touches from DeRozan,

1196
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 4: from Levine, all of whom are already taking touches away

1197
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 4: from Demanta Sabonis. So I just wonder if this is

1198
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 4: kind of like yet another nail in the coffin of

1199
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 4: Demanta Sabonis's time in Sacramento. It seemed like he was

1200
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 4: unhappy at the end of the season. It seemed like

1201
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 4: he was unhappy at times after the Levigne trade as well.

1202
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: I just the Kings had a great spark when they

1203
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: were lighting the beam, went to Game seven against the

1204
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors, and since then things have gone pretty

1205
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: poorly for them. I'm not a big fan of the

1206
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: signing for Sacramento, I mean neither.

1207
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, after lighting the beam, we had obviously Darren Fox

1208
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: wanting out, getting out and getting more players that definitely

1209
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: need to touch the ball. And now Dennis Shruter is

1210
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: another step in that direction. Three years at forty five.

1211
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: It's puzzling how long that they signed Deni Shroter four.

1212
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: He hasn't been on the same team for two consecutive

1213
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: years since he was with ok SEE in twenty eighteen

1214
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty. That's a long time ago. He just

1215
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: kept bouncing around teams since then. He's now going to

1216
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: be on ten teams. This is his tenth NBA team

1217
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: and the guy can obviously ball, and he helped.

1218
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: Germany win gold medal.

1219
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: He helped our Man Gord, the Canadian coach, win a

1220
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: gold But it's these little doses, it comes in these

1221
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: little spurts that make that ideal. And that's why he

1222
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: kept bouncing around the league and three seasons sounds like

1223
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot. And you're right about the Demonta Sabonis drama,

1224
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: because if shrewders are going to handle the ball and

1225
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: want to score and want to touch it a lot

1226
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: and it's gonna go through him, he's gona want to

1227
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: shoot plus Demark plus sac plus Demtus who the ball

1228
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: should be going through. It just feels like it's doesn't

1229
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: seem like a good recipe in this Western Conference.

1230
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 4: Just doesn't. No. And they're after Kaminga as well, like

1231
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: that's another guy who wants to handle the ball.

1232
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, weird, Yeah, very odd. Another odd one. The

1233
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors signing Yaka Pearl to a big extension. You

1234
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: didn't pick up well anyways, it all comes down.

1235
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: To player option and all that.

1236
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: It all comes down to four years for one hundred

1237
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: and four million dollars for Yaka Purdle over the next

1238
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: four seasons.

1239
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: Trade seems like a lot for Yakub. What do you

1240
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: think seems like a lot for Yakub thirty when the

1241
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 4: season starts, he's basically making nas Reed Miles Turner money.

1242
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: I think you would probably rank both of those guys

1243
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: ahead of Yaka Pearl. The Pearl is a good starting center.

1244
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: This is kind of the market rate for a starting center.

1245
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 4: This just seems like an expensive team. The Raptors are

1246
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: getting pretty pricey here for a team that a we

1247
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: haven't seen play together hardly any games. They haven't had

1248
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 4: brandon Ingram on the court yet. That guy's coming this season.

1249
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 4: But I'm talking even like the Barrett Barnes Quickly partle

1250
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: part of the Raptors team hasn't played together, and they

1251
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 4: might just be like a play in team. So I

1252
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: don't know, they can't really were they gonna let Pearl walk,

1253
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: you know, Like I guess they could have done his

1254
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: deal for his player option this next season and then

1255
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: address it in the summertime. They want to get the

1256
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 4: deal done now, that's just the way the Raptors have

1257
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: tended to operate, is like we pay our guys and

1258
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: then figure it out later. I don't think this is

1259
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 4: going to kill them, But it's also like, okay, one

1260
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars twenty five mil per season for Yaka perdl.

1261
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, not to have the freedom to do

1262
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: it elsewhere now, yeah, in a vacuum, it's fine. You

1263
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: look at even Emmanuel Quickly's contract in a vacuum. Okay,

1264
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: it could work out.

1265
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: Same with R. J.

1266
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: Barrett, Okay, it could work out. Brandon Ingram, Yeah maybe,

1267
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes, Yeah maybe. There's just so many variables there.

1268
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: It's like when you go see a solar eclipse. Okay,

1269
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: you want you want a full on eclipse that passes

1270
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: by perfectly where it's dark out there, But that is

1271
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: it's not the best analogy here, but all of those

1272
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: things have to happen at the exact same time.

1273
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 4: You have to be in the path of totality. Yeah,

1274
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 4: the path of totality.

1275
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: You don't want a partial clips it's not the same, No,

1276
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: it ain't.

1277
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: It ain't that fun. You want it to be dark

1278
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: out there.

1279
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Perdal Barnes, quickly, Inger Barrett,

1280
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: all those guys getting paid a ton is going.

1281
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: To make it a full on total eclipse.

1282
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: It just feels like this is going to be a

1283
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: partial Like maybe maybe you'll get it one good game

1284
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: that's a total eclipse where everything works together, But how

1285
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: many how many good months are you going to get

1286
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: out of these guys? We just haven't seen it the

1287
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: last couple of years.

1288
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 4: Now.

1289
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: Part of that is of course it's injury. But who's

1290
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: who is leading this team? What's the identity of this team?

1291
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: It just remains a question. I don't know Scotty. Scotty

1292
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: needs to have another guy's first. Scardi Barnes goes that

1293
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate talent ceiling. It feels like on this

1294
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: team that's the guy who could be the guy, but

1295
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: it feels like he needs.

1296
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: Another great play around him. So is Brandon Ingram going

1297
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: to turn into that guy?

1298
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 4: It's possible.

1299
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it's quickly, doesn't feel like's Barrett,

1300
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's Peartle.

1301
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: So we're here at one of these teams.

1302
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're if the Toronto Raptors are

1303
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: the eternal like Chicago Bulls, where this is going to

1304
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, this is who we got for a

1305
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: playing team for the next three years.

1306
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: Maybe I could be, might be, it might be.

1307
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess we'll see what Ingram has left in

1308
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 4: the tank. Just we haven't seen him on the court

1309
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: hardly at all this past season and then had the

1310
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 4: longest ankle sprain of all time for the Raptors. But

1311
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: this is just how the Raptors do things. You know,

1312
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: they make a trade, they're not they're worried about their

1313
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 4: free agency standing. So they do their free agency via

1314
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 4: trades and then pay the guys after they need to.

1315
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: And that means you got to pay the guys eventually,

1316
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: but then it ends up you're paying, you know, quickly,

1317
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: thirty five million dollars a season. That one's looking crazy

1318
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 4: right now.

1319
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was unfortunate. He got hurt in Game one.

1320
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: Why was Darius Garland under him for that rebound? That

1321
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: that that hurt. Yeah, but we haven't we haven't seen that.

1322
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: But yes, that one does not look all that great.

1323
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: And you're right, that's what the runer raptors do. That's

1324
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: what Massaiuxieri did until he was let go this past week.

1325
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: And Bobby Webster is doing the same thing. And I

1326
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: suppose Rogers is saying, we want these this just this

1327
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: the comfort level here, the stability of not paying a

1328
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: ton like the again, the vacuum of Yaka purdle at

1329
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: that much. It ain't that bad that I can play

1330
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: on both ends. But you know, like your vooch in Chicago,

1331
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: he's not not moving a needle exactly.

1332
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: It's a It is very similar to the Bulls in

1333
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: that like the Bulls for the past three seasons have

1334
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 4: every year been joke around the league, and everybody's like

1335
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 4: they're only going to make the play in tournament. And

1336
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: then trade deadlines and transaction cycles like free agency come

1337
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: up and like, ooh, somebody could go and get Lonzo Ball,

1338
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 4: somebody could go and give Vooch. Guys that like look

1339
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: good on a contending team look helpful there. But you

1340
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: throw them all together and it's like, wait a second,

1341
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 4: we got the fourth best guy on every team, and

1342
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: now that's our best guy on every team. So it

1343
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: is usual unusual, But Pearl's cool, you know, and a

1344
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: team will be interested in him eventually if they decide

1345
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 4: to move off them, I suppose, and then they could

1346
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 4: just trade back for him again.

1347
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen as a throner, raptor the fan, there's good

1348
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: days and I say, well, I can't wait to see

1349
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes playing. I can't wait to see Manuel Quickly playing.

1350
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Brandon Ingram playing. I just

1351
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: mentioned three guys specifically Ingram and Emmanuel Quickly that may

1352
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: not be playing sometimes. And so that's the question, are

1353
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: these guys gonna play, and if they can't play, they

1354
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: can't get to this next level of being a number

1355
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: one number two guys. So all that to be said,

1356
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: they did make a fun move as so far as

1357
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: a backup center goes Mamo move Sandro ma moo Kellshvili

1358
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: is your backup center?

1359
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: That's exciting, is it? Yeah? You're exciting? Yeah, I believe it.

1360
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, cheap guy can shoot.

1361
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 4: And all of my Toronto friends back. Did you hear

1362
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 4: mom moves coming to the rest?

1363
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I did some texting. Yeah, sure the

1364
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: guy can shoot. So he's gonna space the floor.

1365
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: Twenty points in nineteen minutes or whatever he did.

1366
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: Last year once upon a time.

1367
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty points, thirty four and nineteen Minutesty, it's something

1368
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 4: crazy like that, right, and then he like was hanging

1369
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: out with Flavor flav afterwards. Yeah that's exciting.

1370
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Flavor Flavors is buddy with the Spurs. So that's great.

1371
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: If you look at it in a vacuum, this tiny

1372
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: little contract.

1373
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: Uh, it's a good move. Yep.

1374
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: So that's a positive.

1375
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: Man.

1376
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 4: You can't get upset about that. No, I can't get

1377
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 4: us set at that.

1378
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: We have a couple of deals that we mentioned a

1379
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Gary Harris to the Bucks vasa meetch

1380
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: which might be on the Bucks. He was part of

1381
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: the deal to get Pat Connaton to Charlotte, which saved

1382
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: them a little bit of money to get Vasimicic back

1383
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: and so in turn they could do the Miles Turner

1384
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: signing after the Damian.

1385
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: Lillard thing happened.

1386
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: So any anything to say about Gary Harris back to

1387
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: the Bucks. No, No, Gary Harris to the Bucks. Definitely

1388
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: to the Bucks, met kind of to the Bucks. Might

1389
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: not be there Nothing to say about.

1390
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: Gary Harris is a guy that I always thought was

1391
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 4: going to be good, right and he hasn't ever been good,

1392
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 4: but he's been okay, Yeah, yeah, so fine, he's fine

1393
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: off the bench.

1394
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: Josh might not to the Celtics, Okay, from the Grizzlies.

1395
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, Yeah, Grizzlies. Yeah, why would I say

1396
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies.

1397
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, might not.

1398
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: On the Wolves.

1399
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: He did play some and the Celtics seemed to be

1400
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: grabbing guys like Luca Garza. Uh and now at Josh

1401
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: might not that, like we're sort of saying with the

1402
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: Raptors in another way, Look, getting a vacuum Okay, some

1403
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: good minutes, but are they going to.

1404
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: Contribute here to the Boston Celtics.

1405
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 4: He might not have an opportunity with the Timberwolves, but

1406
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: he might be able to get on the court for

1407
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 4: the Celtics. Yeah this season. Same with Luca Garza. There's

1408
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 4: just players ahead of them for the Timberwolves. So I

1409
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 4: don't think these are needle moving moves for the Celtics.

1410
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: They are in cost cutting mode. But who knows. It's

1411
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: worth taking a gamble on young guys who are athletic.

1412
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: And their last one here that we're gonna mention. The

1413
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: biggest contracts of them all. Trey Mann to the Hornets

1414
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: for three years and twenty four million, biggest contract and

1415
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: also best minutes last year before he got injured, there

1416
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: was some talk that he could be six Man of

1417
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: the Year a little bit because he was good.

1418
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: And so they're guard heavy, very guard heavy.

1419
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. They signed Spencer Dinwiddie as well. Yeah, so LaMelo,

1420
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 4: they traded for Colin Sexton. They've got Trey Mann coming

1421
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 4: back from injury and then Spencer Dinwiddie as well. It

1422
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 4: seems to me that the Hornets said our team is

1423
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 4: not going to go in to the toilet. When LaMelo

1424
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 4: Ball gets injured, they got to have somebody as a

1425
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 4: backup point guard or at least a ball handler. So

1426
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: Trey Man, he was fun to watch during the preseason,

1427
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 4: who was wearing his long shorts. He's kind of got

1428
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 4: an Allen Iverson fetish. He puts up some cool highlights.

1429
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, get him back for basically the same deal

1430
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 4: as like ty Jerome. Seems like a lot of money.

1431
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: Now when I say it like that, Tijerome at least

1432
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: has a bit of a track record. But yeah, whatever, Yeah,

1433
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 4: Trey Man a French, it would be very man. My

1434
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 4: favorite bargain bin guy that's spent signed so far Trendon

1435
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 4: Watford going to the Sixers two years minimum deal. He's

1436
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: only twenty five years old. The guy was getting buckets

1437
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 4: for the Brooklyn Nets last season, so similar sort of

1438
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 4: deal in Philadelphia. Like he's young, maybe he could be something.

1439
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: They had some success with Justin Edwards as a random

1440
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 4: fine last year and then still no Josh Giddy deal.

1441
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, we've made it through a whole week and

1442
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: the Bulls haven't overpaid him. So I'm happy so far.

1443
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: Every minute I'm happier happier four for one hundred. I

1444
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: think he says, yes, there's no deal out there for

1445
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: him right now.

1446
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think he would say yes. I am

1447
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: not his agent, so I don't know what he's being offered,

1448
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: but if you're the only one offering him something, then yeah,

1449
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: you gotta take it. Yeah, got to all right, we'll

1450
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,679
Speaker 1: get to any other deals, including Josh Giddy. On Monday,

1451
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: we'll be back Joe Why seventh, our man Skeets will

1452
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: be back as well, So we'll do that then.

1453
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: But for now, let's get into a little rapid fire fun.

1454
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,879
Speaker 4: I had a surprise banger tweet this week. I tweeted

1455
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: the Bucks now have one of NBA Gary's and it

1456
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 4: got over a million views on Twitter, even though it

1457
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 4: was incorrect because Gary Payton the second and he's still

1458
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 4: out there. He doesn't have a team yet, but nobody cares.

1459
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 4: People just love Gary. So my question to you guys,

1460
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,879
Speaker 4: who is your all time favorite Gary?

1461
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: Well, here's another guy that's not officially a Gary, but

1462
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: to me, he's a Gary Gary Bird. That's Garrison Matthews.

1463
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,919
Speaker 1: That's his name, that's his official nickname, it's his basketball

1464
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: reference nickname. And I will just say, a guy who

1465
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: gets a nickname like that, you know, related to Larry Bird,

1466
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: with not having any himself, not having an incredible NBA career,

1467
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: that's a great accomplishment to me.

1468
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 4: That is good.

1469
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, people here, people here.

1470
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: In Atlanta, who are Gary Garrison Matthews stands.

1471
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 2: We're saying.

1472
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: We're saying when when Luke Canard was signed, they said,

1473
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: come on, we already got Garrison Matthews.

1474
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 4: What do you want? I listen.

1475
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: Lukeynard is a far better player. But there's some Gary

1476
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: Bird fans out there, and I'm one of them.

1477
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: Gary Bird, Larry Bird is a career thirty seven percent

1478
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 4: three point shooter. Gary Bird is a career thirty eight

1479
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 4: percent three points. Tells you everything you needed to know. JD.

1480
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 4: You got a favorite Gary?

1481
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

1482
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: So many Garys? Who to choose? There's a task is

1483
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 3: drunk alter ego Gary. He's probably my favorite Gary. Let's

1484
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: be honest, but I love SpongeBob's Gary the snail. Oh,

1485
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 3: it's more of a SpongeBob saying the name Gary Gary.

1486
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, is Gary oldman. He's actually probably my favorite.

1487
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 3: Great Gary slow horses, the guy he can do no

1488
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 3: wrong and put me down for Gary Larson, far farside,

1489
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: Gary Larson, Great Gary.

1490
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 4: There's a lot of good Gary's out there at Great Garys. Yeah,

1491
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: Gary oldman was on my list for sure about going.

1492
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 4: Gary Sinise, Oh, he was on my list. Yeah, you

1493
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: don't know why. I was thinking about Forrest Gump recently,

1494
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 4: but then I was like, man, it's pretty crazy that

1495
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: his name is Gary Sonise and the guy is always

1496
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: playing very sinister characters. He was just made for it.

1497
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 4: Forrest Gump, Paula thirteen Quick in the Dead Snake Eyes.

1498
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 4: Gary Sinise, a great nineties actor.

1499
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 5: Oh, he was a He was a CSI guy for

1500
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 5: a while.

1501
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: He definitely is on one of those CSI shows. I

1502
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 4: don't know which city he's investigating. Same, Gary Sonise, let

1503
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: us know your favorite Gary's. In the chat. While explaining

1504
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 4: how the Bucks came to Wave, Damian Lillard are main man,

1505
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: Mark Spears said on ESPN that quote, the Bucks have

1506
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 4: some amazing super nerds in their computer room. Guys, what's

1507
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 4: the most amazing super nerd thing about you?

1508
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 2: Man? I'm just gonna I was gonna full on brag here.

1509
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: This past week, the No Dunk's Business World had some

1510
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: paperwork to do. And I was told you should go

1511
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: get a lawyer, and that's totally true. I should have

1512
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: gotten attorney, but I wasn't gonna do it. I sat

1513
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: in front of my computer. I thought I can do this.

1514
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: Now.

1515
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't fun, but I did it, and I thought

1516
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: of it as an accomplishment for myself. It's not fun

1517
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: reading all this legal ease and just like having to

1518
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: go through all of that stuff. But I did and

1519
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: it was fun. And that's it. That's the end of

1520
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: my sentence. Wait, it was actually fun. You had fun?

1521
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you felt like you'd learned. Yeah.

1522
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: When I got up from that computer after sixteen hours

1523
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: of reading all these freaking words, uh yeah, it felt

1524
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: it felt like I did something like it was an accomplishment.

1525
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: Did I do it perfectly?

1526
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: Gott No, that's good to hear, good to know.

1527
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: Did I have to do it multiple times?

1528
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1529
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well afterwards the show, I'll tell you how much

1530
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: I screwed up and okay, what we're all gonna have

1531
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: to pay for.

1532
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: But anyways, that's it. Nice super nerd time.

1533
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 4: Isn't this nerd? It's an important skill?

1534
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: I guess it is.

1535
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of us four needs it.

1536
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: Indeed.

1537
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a smart man. So the most nerdy

1538
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 3: thing about me is my glasses. It's like Clark Kent disguise,

1539
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, you know what I mean. Like I went

1540
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 3: for the biggest, thickest I could find, h just to

1541
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 3: trick people.

1542
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: Right. Do you think it's worked? No?

1543
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because when I opened my mouth,

1544
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: people realize, oh, like it's an idiot.

1545
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 4: But you think the glasses may be confused him at first?

1546
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

1547
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 5: I think so.

1548
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 3: You know, it's like that guy probably knows what he's

1549
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 3: talking about. But really it's just I can't see very well.

1550
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: I have no fashion sense. So yeah, yeah, it's some

1551
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 3: of my glasses. That's the most nerdiest thing about me.

1552
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 4: I think your glasses are awesome, doesn't I say, like

1553
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 4: right and left on the top of them.

1554
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 3: Yes, it's port and starboard and one of them and uh.

1555
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah cool, thank you. Not nerdy cool for me.

1556
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 4: Most amazing, super nerd thing right now is I've started

1557
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 4: reading large print books.

1558
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 5: Wow, you need a pair of these, Maybe I do.

1559
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 4: Funny thing about me, I don't have any sort of

1560
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,839
Speaker 4: vision enhancement, just pure just pure eyeballs here. But sometimes

1561
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 4: it's hard to get a book from the library, like

1562
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 4: if it's a popular book. I've been trying to read

1563
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 4: Demon Copperhead for like a year and it was never available.

1564
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: But then I was like on the website and I

1565
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: looked up and they had the large print edition available,

1566
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 4: so I, you know, put in my hold for it.

1567
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 4: It came and it is so thick. It's like nine

1568
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: hundred pages long, and it looks like a phone book

1569
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 4: how thick it is. So I feel like a big

1570
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 4: time nerd pulling up to the pool and out pull

1571
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: out the biggest possible book, flipping the pages. But I

1572
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 4: read so fast now, it's like I can read twenty

1573
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 4: pages and five minutes. It feels like this there's like

1574
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 4: maybe two paragraphs on the whole page.

1575
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 5: It must feel great.

1576
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you feel super accomplished pulling out a doorstop.

1577
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: But that like it looks ridiculous how big this thing is.

1578
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you only get through like one percent today,

1579
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, depends on.

1580
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: How muches are not good. Yeah, yeah, you gotta read

1581
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: one hundred pages. It's really matter. I'm sure you read

1582
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: more than that. I'm just saying, but I reflect, we're

1583
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 4: projecting myself, who doesn't read enough and like one percent

1584
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 4: that's all I read. Yeah, well sometimes I mean, you know,

1585
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 4: sometimes I only have a chance to read one chapter, right,

1586
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,839
Speaker 4: and then it does feel like it's like four pages.

1587
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, four pages not good?

1588
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 4: All right? Got ourselves a big barbecue day tomorrow. Boys,

1589
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 4: it's the fourth of July. So tell me what is

1590
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,440
Speaker 4: the best side you can get at a barbecue?

1591
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: For me, it's the baked beans.

1592
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: I hope they're around and listen, I know it's not

1593
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: ideal for everybody who might be out of barbecue that

1594
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: wants to stand and eat.

1595
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: Because you know, you don't want to be scooping beans.

1596
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: But they're just so good, you know, they're they're they're sweet,

1597
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: they're hopefully they're warm because they're big beans. They're just

1598
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: they're just they hit every spot. For me, it's a

1599
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: big bean.

1600
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1601
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't sure if we were talking about barbecue side,

1602
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 3: Like barbecue sides are like we're a cookout.

1603
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 4: A cookoutside. I guess yeah, yeah, just.

1604
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: Give me a workaday potato salad, you know what I'm saying.

1605
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 3: In the sun, got a couple of beers in me.

1606
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 4: You want a hot salad, potato salad.

1607
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, warm, I don't care. Yeah, it's been sitting in

1608
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 3: the sun, it's covered in flies. Show them away.

1609
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: Delicious, you know.

1610
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 5: If it's made right, it's great.

1611
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1612
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Yeah, that is the thing. It's hard

1613
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: to make good potato salad.

1614
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 4: I'm with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think those are

1615
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: both good. I'm adding both of those to my plate

1616
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 4: as well, potato salad and baked beans. I think, like

1617
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: the greatest cookout side is grilled corn. But the one

1618
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm most excited to see right now pasta salad.

1619
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 5: Wow.

1620
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 4: I just I don't know why. I just love a

1621
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 4: pasta salad. I prefer it cold. But it's like you

1622
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 4: can eat a pasta salad next to a pool. Yeah. Yeah.

1623
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: I happened to be eating pasta with cheese in it

1624
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: yesterday and it felt like pasta salad and I was

1625
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: excited and it was like cooked, I don't.

1626
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: Know six hours prior.

1627
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: It was a warm pasta, but I had been sitting

1628
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: there on our accounter for like six hours and I

1629
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: just hammered it.

1630
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: I started eating it. It's so good.

1631
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. If you leave it alone long enough to any

1632
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: pasta turns into pasta salad. Yes, you're right.

1633
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,839
Speaker 3: And what point what's the temperature threshold that it becomes salad?

1634
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 5: And then you're just eating pasta? You know what I'm saying? Like,

1635
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 5: how warm or cold does it have to get to

1636
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 5: cross that threshold?

1637
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Yeah?

1638
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: While I was eating it, I didn't know what to

1639
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: call it because it was just room temp, right, I mean, is.

1640
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 5: This cold pasta or warm?

1641
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: Exactly? Yeah? I don't know what the threshold is.

1642
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 3: If the feta cheese is kind of melty, that's pasta

1643
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: to me.

1644
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. If there's any sort of melt to it,

1645
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 4: it's pasta. Yeah. Yeah, good stuff right, looking forward to

1646
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 4: eating sides. Actually, I'm a huge thing apasta salad in

1647
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 4: my fridge right now. I made it last night. Oh

1648
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: you made it Alison Roman's recipe. Sun dried tomatoes are

1649
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: the secret ingredient. Ah, didn't need to spoil it. Tomatoes.

1650
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 5: I'm not a fan. Yeah, give me a fresh tomato

1651
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 5: in there, that's fine.

1652
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 4: It also first tomatoes and quite Jimmy. But I had

1653
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 4: to cook it. How about that. I cooked down the tomatoes,

1654
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 4: cooked them with the sun dried tomatoes, and then added

1655
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 4: it to the pasta. Let it cool Okay, so I

1656
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: cooked it? Is it pasta pasta salad? Who knows?

1657
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think Alison is onto something.

1658
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, you need something in a pasta salad that

1659
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: makes it a little stand out, a little.

1660
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 4: Bit that you're not just eating for and pasta. So cool.

1661
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 2: That was fun.

1662
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday to talk probably some more

1663
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: things that have happened, because there are going to be

1664
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: lots of deals that officially become deals. On Sunday, July sixth,

1665
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: our Man Skeets will be back and just a reminder,

1666
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: we'll be in Vegas. Yeah, July eleventh, live show. So

1667
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: come on by.

1668
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 5: We're leaving a week today.

1669
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 4: We're leaving a week today. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah right,

1670
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 4: yeah yeah yeah yeah, Crazy Cooper Flagg, Brownie James one

1671
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 4: week from today. Excited we'll be there, baby, hopefully, Yeah

1672
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 4: we will. Well, we'll be there. I had all the

1673
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 4: time our flight lanes. It's going to be a pack

1674
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 4: I haven't thought about it that it's going to be

1675
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: a packed house.

1676
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 2: As long as oh yeah, our credentials are approved.

1677
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,440
Speaker 5: They can always buy tickets.

1678
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm not one hundred percent sure they'll be

1679
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: available night one because this is a new thing that

1680
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: Summer League is doing, bumping it a day before prop

1681
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: like they were bumping it earlier to Thursday. Although it's

1682
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: probably gonna be one of those scenarios that there's tickets

1683
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: available because everybody will be playing.

1684
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I was

1685
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: just wondering if it is just a double header, and

1686
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: probably we'll see, we'll see looking forward to that. We'll

1687
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: see you back on Monday, everybody. But for now, Clipper bros.

1688
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1689
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us. And remember

1690
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 4: there's a Wikipedia page all about guys named Gary, so

1691
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 4: if you want to do some research, get in there.

1692
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: Gary fencik forgot about that guy. High ranking Gary.

1693
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: For me, Gary football player.

1694
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 4: He's a Chicago Bear when I was young. Oh, I

1695
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 4: got nothing on Gary Fenci bensick. Yeah, he won a

1696
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 4: championship with the Bears.

1697
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 2: He was part of the Shuffling Crew legend.

1698
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 4: Two guys named Gary Green. No, that was like eight

1699
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 4: guys named Gary Green. Popular name. I'll see you Monday, folks,