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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Car Stories with k

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Speaker 1: and Amelia Hartford Mike from Evasive Motorsports joining us in

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Speaker 1: the booth. Mike founded Evasive Motorsports in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two with his partner Tony. Not only do they sell

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Speaker 1: aftermarket product for the community, but they also build and

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Speaker 1: race and sponsor other cars and drivers.

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Speaker 2: And why is Evasive they go to aftermarket parts company

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Speaker 2: because there's a whole bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think in our conversation the listeners will

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Speaker 1: find that he has this passion, this love where he

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Speaker 1: just kind of devotes everything into trying to perfect a car,

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Speaker 1: almost like an ekey guy guy.

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Speaker 2: Eke guy, it's the Japanese ancient term that came from

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Speaker 2: the northern part of Japan from the showgun Dyna the yakumoko.

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Speaker 1: I can't feel of your bullshitting or not.

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Speaker 2: Yoshino ah san.

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Speaker 1: In the first half.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? Ikey guy?

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Speaker 1: Ikey Guy is essentially finding what your purpose on life is.

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Speaker 1: And with the conversation with Mike from Evasive, it's that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't money that motivated him, it was building cars.

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Speaker 1: He's essentially dominated the market and very well respected for

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Speaker 1: building tuner cars, specifically the EVO nine and the S

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Speaker 1: two K, and doesn't have any plans of slowing down

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Speaker 1: anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I really wanted to sit down with Mike because

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Speaker 2: I've always seen Evasive around the community and when you

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Speaker 2: ask anybody about Evasive, their reputation is stillar There's nobody

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Speaker 2: pucks any crap about them. And I wanted to know

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Speaker 2: how do they last for twenty years and they're so

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Speaker 2: respected and beloved in the car community, and like, what

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Speaker 2: is their magic sauce?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you may know Evasive, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't know directly the owners because I feel like

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Speaker 1: they're more private about their lives and they're so focused

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Speaker 1: on trying to give back to the community.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like Mike is a super like shy guy.

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Speaker 2: But you know somebody like him that has been able

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Speaker 2: to create a thriving business for the past two decades. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: they're onto something. So something to learn from Mike.

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Speaker 1: I also learned what mushing was mushing mushing all right,

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Speaker 1: you guys, without further ado, Mike from Evasive.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Mike, Hi, Amelia and I were talking this morning,

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Speaker 2: were like, so Mike's coming from evasive we know nothing

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Speaker 2: about you, oh, which is pretty awesome that we get

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Speaker 2: to start this podcast. So Evasive sells. What do you?

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Speaker 2: Guys sell?

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Speaker 3: Pretty much everything, like anything from lug nuts to body kids, wheels, tires,

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Speaker 3: like anything you want to, like, you know, tune up

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Speaker 3: a car.

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Speaker 1: Okay did it always start like that?

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Speaker 3: It did? I mean, you know, it started as something

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Speaker 3: I did in college as a hobby. So like we

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Speaker 3: we started selling lugnuts. Actually really it was it was

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Speaker 3: something easy to ship and it was in Hi the mend,

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Speaker 3: you know, lugnuts. Yeah, because a lot of times before,

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Speaker 3: like this is twenty years ago, people would buy wheels

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Speaker 3: and they would run like kind of jinky looking lugnuts.

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Speaker 3: So we started selling like color and fancy lugnuts and

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Speaker 3: people loved it and we would sell like you know

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Speaker 3: at first, you know, this is all out of Mike arroage.

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Speaker 2: Where's this garage? Where'd you grow up?

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Speaker 3: This is when I went to kel Poly so it

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Speaker 3: was like West Cofina.

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Speaker 2: Area, So you grew up you're selling caliboy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well I was born in Taiwan actually, so

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Speaker 3: and I moved here and I was like ten, but

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Speaker 3: I went to school in La and then went to

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Speaker 3: cal Poly and then yeah, back to the lugnuts.

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Speaker 1: It was you're in school slinging lung nuts exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and we actually bought the url like King

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Speaker 3: of Nuts. When you went to that l you went

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Speaker 3: to EVAs the Motorsports. So that's how kind of got started.

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Speaker 3: And we were selling like like twenty thirty packs of

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Speaker 3: expanded to what we you know, what else we carry

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Speaker 3: obviously you know those like intakes and exhaust all all

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Speaker 3: the other stuff, but like bigger items. Obviously we can't

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Speaker 3: to another and then we me and my business partner. Okaya,

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Speaker 3: so me and Tony. Tony's my business partner. We kind

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Speaker 3: of started together mean through my wife actually, so my

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Speaker 3: then just when I was dating her, I met him

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Speaker 3: and then we're both super into cars. Like this is

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Speaker 3: like this is the era where like e commerce was

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Speaker 3: say year two thousand, two thousand. Yeah, so there's like

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Speaker 3: a handful of people selling car parts online. So we're like,

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Speaker 3: and he is actually, you know, he's actually a computer

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Speaker 3: like you know, coding and stuff. So like, hey, we're

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Speaker 3: both into cars, why don't you build a website and

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Speaker 3: I'll be like the kind of like the parts runner

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Speaker 3: and I'll do the you know, the operations. And that's

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Speaker 3: kind of how it started.

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Speaker 1: Wow, how did you come up with the name evasive?

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Speaker 3: He came up with it. Yeah, I was like sure

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Speaker 3: and whatever.

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Speaker 2: So what's that mean? Evasive?

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Speaker 3: Like it's kind of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, iris.

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Speaker 3: So people make jokes about it all the time, like

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Speaker 3: you're evading your customers, but like, but I feel like

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Speaker 3: it's more like like on the racetrack, because like you know,

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Speaker 3: that's what we're about, Like you can't catch us. Like

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Speaker 3: it's like we're very like sneaky evasive, like we're like

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Speaker 3: just passing people whatever. You know. That's kind of like

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Speaker 3: I like like to take it as that.

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Speaker 2: So you and Tony bonded because your love affair for cars.

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Speaker 3: For sure?

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Speaker 2: What cars were you into that you guys had a

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Speaker 2: common bond.

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Speaker 3: We both had integrals, So like Honda as like our route.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of like a car parts startup

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Speaker 2: in the two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Totally yeah, totally reach car parts. And then we try

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Speaker 3: to do we try to build a website to be

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Speaker 3: very like lifestyle ish, like you know, we're we have

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of like it's not just like here's

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Speaker 2: You know, so what started you in the cars? Like

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Speaker 2: we'll get you into that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I just remember when I

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Speaker 3: funny because I was like part of like a car

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Speaker 2: Hot im poort nights type of show off and poor

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Speaker 2: show off. Yeah, what's that you know that I've heard?

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Speaker 1: I don't like I know more than Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the nineties, way, how old are you? I'm forty three?

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Speaker 2: Forty three? Oh he looks like he's twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Okay Asian jeans. Yeah, like in push office like the

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Speaker 3: and then that's how I really got like involved in cars.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's a car cruise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was like the thing like everybody belonged

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Speaker 3: Like it's just like you know, by yourself. So everyone

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Speaker 1: My crew when I moved to Indiana was called B

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Speaker 1: Crew for Bloomington, Indiana. B Crew yeah, that's what we

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Speaker 2: What was your cruise name?

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Speaker 3: Hybrid hybrid Hybrid. I don't know what they call it,

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Speaker 3: team Hybrid.

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Speaker 2: I guess hybrid hybrid.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years later, there's.

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Speaker 3: Still still around.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy Hybrid's now.

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Speaker 3: Prias is Noel. Yeah, no, they're still around, still doing

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Speaker 3: the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I guess the need to be part of a

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Speaker 2: crew will always continue for people, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I guess in a very ancestry type thing of needing

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Speaker 2: That was never part of a car crew because I

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Speaker 2: I was We had these like fake Adidas like jumpsuits

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Speaker 2: were like red and black. We're called the Tiger Crew, right.

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Speaker 2: It was so stupid, and there was like five of

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Speaker 2: So they were like, all right, you want to wear

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Speaker 2: Never they never let me dance, but it was cool

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Speaker 2: you're like, Yo, what's up man?

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: We didn't you know, we didn't go like fight, but

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Speaker 2: we talked shit like Yo, Yo, Mike, what you're looking at?

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Speaker 1: Yo? Man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yo, what's your crew?

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Speaker 1: Dragon Crew? Let's go We're going to dance this sound.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was kind of thing. Is like you get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So when the Hybrid crew, what was the initiation?

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Speaker 3: There wasn't much initiation.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I think if you have a cool car, like it

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Speaker 3: and you you know, you're friendly and like people get

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Speaker 3: But then like as a as the crew got bigger,

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Speaker 3: it's when I kind of left. I was like there

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Speaker 1: And I feel like to clarify for those listening who

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Speaker 2: When did you come from Taiwan when I was ten?

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Speaker 2: I've ever had is in Taiwan really because it was

442
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: it was like a Commonwealth of Japan, so there's bits

443
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: of Taiwan. There's like whole Japanese street where like all

444
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: the restaurants are still Japanese and bars and stuff, and

445
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: you go and you go have sushi. It's like Sushi

446
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: Masters there and it's cheap.

447
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

448
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: Like for the listeners, you guys want a vacation, go

449
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: to Taiwan. It's yeah, people are super sweet there, all right.

450
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

451
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: It's really small too. It's like it's only like five

452
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 2: million people. That's the population. Pretty small isling, Yeah, like

453
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 2: real island culture.

454
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: So you were exposed to cars when you were there at.

455
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 3: A young age, not in Taiwan, Yeah, just.

456
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: More toy cars you gravitated towards.

457
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so like you know, when I moved to

458
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: the States, Yeah, and my my older cousin had a

459
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 3: Miyata at that age. I was like, Oh, it's the

460
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: coolest car ever, you know. So I was like, You're

461
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: gonna let me drive it one day? Right, He's like nope.

462
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: So from that point I was like, you know, get

463
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: my own car one day. I led to that.

464
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you finish and get a agree at cal Poly?

465
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 3: I did?

466
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

467
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

468
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: What did you get your degree in marketing? Were your

469
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: parents happy for you? Or were they like, why are

470
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: you selling lugnuts on the internet? You need to go

471
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: get You're supportive? Actually really that's great.

472
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah it's not. I don't think I have the typical

473
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: Asian parents were like, hey, what are you doing? Like

474
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: this is they stay solved? Maybe they solve the potential.

475
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 3: I think the amount of lugnuts grew overnight as far

476
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: as like how much inventory we had, where in the

477
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: little garage we had, and they never gave me any

478
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: crap about it. And then yeah, till this day, they

479
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 3: still think what I do is cool.

480
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you look at the world differently

481
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: than other people in a positive way, like when it

482
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: comes to business or when it comes to.

483
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: I just think like, you know, the possibility of things.

484
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: You know, like I feel like anything could be done

485
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: when I think about building cars or like how it

486
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 3: can make an impact, Like anything is doable. You know,

487
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: maybe step outside of what's normal.

488
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: Where does that come from?

489
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: I think I think it's just the creative side of me.

490
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: Like I just feel like, you know, I'm always like

491
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: looking to create something, you know, Like I'm like a

492
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: very private person, but I like to express myself through

493
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: the business. So like building cars, like racing, doing all

494
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: these things, like you know, it's I think it's a

495
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: way for me to just like fully express, you know,

496
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: my creative side.

497
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: So when you're looking at a project, you look at

498
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: it more from a creative perspective or do you start

499
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: crunching numbers in your head of like performance skins.

500
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: I think the creative first, but then obviously as a

501
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: business owner, I have to think about like doesn't make

502
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: sense right, like if it brings any value or you know,

503
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: like does it make sense for Dye to drive his car,

504
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, like what does he get out of it?

505
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: Like these things obviously run through my head, but I

506
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: think the first thing I think about is like, like,

507
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: how can I just like build a car that will

508
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: make people stop and look, you know, and be like, hey,

509
00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 3: this is something different.

510
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: So is there one that you're most proud of in

511
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: your career?

512
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: I would really think the S two thousand are that

513
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: we just completed like earlier this year. It's something that

514
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: I'm like super proud of. You guys know anything about

515
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: the S two thousand RIL. Have you heard about it?

516
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: No?

517
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: Tell us?

518
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: This is a car you guys built?

519
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. So S two thousand R is like a

520
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: concept that like we came up with maybe three four

521
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: years ago. Hondas you know, Type Ours has always been

522
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: like the top model for any Honda models like Integrat

523
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: Type ARE or Civic Type Are. They never made one

524
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: for the S two thousand, you know, for a good reason,

525
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: probably because the car is so well sorted already there's

526
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 3: really no need for a Type Our version. So the

527
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: idea came to me is like, hey, why don't we

528
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: take this S two thousand put all the knowledge we've

529
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: learned the past twenty years on this car into this

530
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: car and build it for street use, not a race car,

531
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 3: for something that we can sell as a finished car

532
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 3: to you know, the consumer.

533
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: All the car or the upwards to make it a car.

534
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 3: The actual car. Yeah. So, like the idea was to

535
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: build a limited number of these cars and people could

536
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: just buy it turn key and they could you know,

537
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: they could have fun with it and drive it. So

538
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: the car is powered by the new Civic type our engine,

539
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: which is like a turbo charge from the factory. It

540
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: makes about like three hundred horse power three hundred pounds

541
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: of torque, which is like more than enough for that

542
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: little rolster. So we put that in there. Like the

543
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: interior has been redone with all the carbon seats and

544
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: all the panels are replaced with carbon fiber and all. No,

545
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: just like to improve what the S two thousand is,

546
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: but just make it more modern and make it like faster, lighter,

547
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: and just more fun. So, like, I think that's probably

548
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 3: one of the one of the cars that I'm really

549
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: proud of, and we're still working on maybe launching it

550
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: next year.

551
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: That's exciting, guys.

552
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 2: They're making like a bespoke two thousand.

553
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Linger singer approach, Yeah, I would say, but not

554
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: as hardcoreously you.

555
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: Know, that's the legacy without even realizing it.

556
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And it's like, I don't think anyone's ever

557
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: done that concept to a Honda.

558
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: You know, how much is the car going to go

559
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: for things?

560
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be probably a little bit

561
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: over two hundred ground for US two thousands.

562
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: So who's going to make this car purest?

563
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: Actually it's it's really interesting. We brought the car to

564
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: Moderate Car Week. It's on display. You know, obviously there's

565
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 3: a lot of wealth and a lot of people like Ferraris,

566
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: and you know, I've got a lot of emails from people,

567
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: but hey, tell me more about this car. I'm interested.

568
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: And these are guys that are like, hey, I want

569
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: to add this to my collection of like Ferraris and

570
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: like whatever. Like they have no idea what a S

571
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: two thousand is to probably never had one before, but

572
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: they're interested because they're like, oh, this looks kind of cool, right,

573
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I don't know all walks of life.

574
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I think if they see the car, they'll appreciate it.

575
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: And what all walks of life that doesn't.

576
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: Life as far as you're a rich walk of life.

577
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, two hunder grand.

578
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 2: That means you have to make even like to afford

579
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: to buy that car.

580
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean even like I'm thinking like people who

581
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: once had a S two thousand, Right, it came out

582
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: on ninety nine, So if you had an S two

583
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: thousand ninety nine, you got rid of it by now

584
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: you're probably like older or affluent. You probably don't drive

585
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: some fancy car. Be like, you know what, I missed

586
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: the S two thousand. You could come to us, be

587
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: like I want to buy this two thousand because it's

588
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: all done, it's modern whatever. You know, you could get

589
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: that same car again.

590
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Well there's the saying build it and they will come.

591
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I mean what there's so many versions

592
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: of this type of R car right, Like I was

593
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: in Poland, I saw like a quatro version. There's the

594
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: two four y z version, And like my friends in Bradford, England,

595
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: they do that, and I always ask the questions like

596
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: why do you guys dedicate like your life doing that?

597
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: It's super cool And I wish I had something like that,

598
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 2: like a material thing where I could like focus and

599
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: dedicate like all of my soul like these guys. They

600
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: put one hundred percent of their soul into these cars,

601
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: and when you look at them from the outside, they

602
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: look like just weirdos. You sacrifice time with your family.

603
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: You don't really make that much money off of these things, right,

604
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: and you're in the garage all day and for what?

605
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: And then when you meet people like in Japan, like

606
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: the there's a people who focus on one thing, right,

607
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: They nerd out on one thing, They geek out on

608
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: one thing, They like become obsessive.

609
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: I know, sorry all think of the saying of it,

610
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: but I know.

611
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: Charat so and then you actually you meet these people

612
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 2: and then you're like, what what are they focusing on?

613
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Just like blue jeans.

614
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Eku guy eku guy eku guides that have you heard

615
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: of this? Sorry? I think so, Sorry, keep keep continueing

616
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: you're saying.

617
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: And then but so I agree with you in that

618
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: you build it and then people will recognize the passion.

619
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, when you put your like one hundred

620
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: percent of your soul into something, eventually there's people that

621
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: need to feed off of that. It seems like you know, Mike,

622
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: like these cars or like your your version of like

623
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: your arts, or like you're right yeah.

624
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said, we just we just put

625
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: put it out there and then people will come like

626
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 3: it's it's true. You know, like it's satisfying to know

627
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: that people actually appreciate what you do. You know, even

628
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: if it's like a very small number of people, you know,

629
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: it's still I still think it's it's really cool.

630
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: It's art.

631
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: It's cool that you guys focused on one type of

632
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 2: car that I didn't know that I didn't know that

633
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: was like your main thing. Yeah, very evasive, and I

634
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: mean twenty years that's like like twenty thousand hours of investing,

635
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: like your life into this car. So you're super excited

636
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: to see what this s two thousand are it turns

637
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: into yeah or becomes right.

638
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a cult, like a cult following for the car. Yeah,

639
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: and that's how we're still in business catering to one car.

640
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: You know.

641
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: So do you think car culture in the States has

642
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: surpassed Japan? There's an argument to that that car culture

643
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: in Japan is kind of disappearing compared to you.

644
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think a lot of it is due

645
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: to the fact that like Japan, where I would say

646
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: maybe ten twenty years ahead of the US, as far

647
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: as like when they reached their peak in cartooning. You like,

648
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: a lot of the og tuners are probably like sixty

649
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: ish years old. Now in the US, we're reaching our

650
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: peak now, Like guys like my age in the forties,

651
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: we're like continue trying to figure out ways to push

652
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: the boundaries of like what tuning is right. And I

653
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: feel like in Japan they don't have somebody that kind

654
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: of filled in that gap afterwards. You know, there wasn't

655
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: a generation after that follow and be like, hey, let's

656
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: go crazy with these cars, you know, like let's keep

657
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: it going, you know what I mean.

658
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Well, Japan's thing was really form over function, right, US

659
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: was a very functional reform. So in Japan, a lot

660
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: of it was like how beautiful can you make these cars?

661
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: How fun can you have with them? How excessive can

662
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: you go? And in the States is very much who

663
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: cares what it looks like, just make it go fast.

664
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you brought that to the States

665
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: at like that pivotal time of before the age of

666
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: social media, before people could really see what was going

667
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: on overseas, to then bring that type of culture back

668
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: to the States a little bit.

669
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think in Japan it was function m

670
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: form at the same time, like they had the fastest cars,

671
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: yet they looked like they could. When any car show

672
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: it goes to I think that's like that perfection they

673
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: seek right when they build cars. It wasn't just about

674
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: make it go fast, like it literally needs to look

675
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: top notch and go fast, right. So yeah, and that

676
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: was really what drove me to their tune the way

677
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: they build cars in their tuning culture.

678
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: Life lessons. If you were to talk to your younger self,

679
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: what would you tell yourself.

680
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: I think the number one thing is just try try

681
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: everything and just like if it doesn't work out, I

682
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: think you have time on your side. I think the

683
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: biggest thing is like I feel like when people are

684
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: young and they make decisions, they feel like, oh, if

685
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: I mess up, I'll never recover from this. It's like

686
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: it doesn't like getting older. It makes you realize like, no,

687
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: like if you are young, anything's possible, you know. I

688
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: just feel like I some certain certain risks I didn't

689
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: really take I should have. I wish I would have

690
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: been more like open to like all kinds of crazy ideas,

691
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: you know, when I was like just starting off the business,

692
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: even though I built it like kind of slowly into

693
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: what it is now. I feel like, you know, if

694
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: I just be more open minded about things, it would

695
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: have been better.

696
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: What would you like people to know about like you

697
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: and evasive and like, you know when they listen to this, right,

698
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: it's not there's a lot of people that don't know

699
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: anything about cars and actually don't give a shit about

700
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: cars at all, because that's not what our podcast is.

701
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: Right.

702
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: What would you want people to like walk away from

703
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, this podcast because there's a reason why you're here,

704
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: because you wanted to like talk to us.

705
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so yeah, I think I think the number

706
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: one thing I want people to know is like, you know,

707
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: like we like there's like people who like myself and

708
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: I think my whole team I could speak for them,

709
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: like we're all passionate people about what we do. I

710
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of times that's lost in this

711
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: world where like people are just doing things for business reasons,

712
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: you know. Like the thing that gets me going, like

713
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: we you know, spoke about earlier, is like building these cars,

714
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: these new ideas, like it's a former expression. Like I

715
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of times that's like that's lost, Right,

716
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: so you know, if anything to take away, it's like,

717
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: you know, like us, yes, we're running a business at

718
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: the end of the day, but like we're we're true

719
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: car people. You know, we're passionate about what we do,

720
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 3: and you know it really matters to us, like waking

721
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: up and trying to do something that you know, that

722
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: feels rewarding. So you know, and I think I think

723
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 3: that's you know that that's a message for most people.

724
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: It's like if you find something you're passionate about, like

725
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: there's an opportunity that comes up, like go for it,

726
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: you know, like and then just stick with it.

727
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: So ekey guy is a reason for being. It's a

728
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: Japanese concept referring to something that gives a person a

729
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: sense of purpose, a reason for living.

730
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: Ekey guy, ikey guy, ekey guy. Kind I've never heard

731
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: this before.

732
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: Ekey guy, eke guy.

733
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Look up otaku.

734
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: Is that just like a like a kind of like

735
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: a geek.

736
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: Is that a young person who's obsessed with computers or

737
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: particular aspects of popular culture to detriment of their social skills.

738
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: I mean they're like super super focused on one thing

739
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: right into super into one thing.

740
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I could see those going hand in hand

741
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: you don't really into anything, and also finding your sense

742
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: of purpose.

743
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean if I think if you can find balance,

744
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: but you know, I think a lot of people that

745
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: obsess over something there's no balance in their life. Right, Yeah,

746
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: you think you have balance?

747
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so. I mean I don't

748
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: feel like I'm always balanced, you know, like sometimes I

749
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: feel like I need to step backwards from certain things.

750
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: But the wife's happy, the kids are happy, so I

751
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, maybe are you happy? I feel like

752
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: you can't be happy all the time. Right, It's like

753
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: it's one of those things like you always feel like

754
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: there's something missing. You're always chasing for something and.

755
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: What are you chasing? What does that mean you're chasing?

756
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what it is?

757
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Like in thrill?

758
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you know, could be anything. You know,

759
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: it's like something you just feel like something's missing.

760
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: When were you happiest to last we won pikes Peaker, Yeah,

761
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: you're real secret, that's what.

762
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: So racing really like fulfills that missing piece, I guess. Yeah,

763
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: So like when we do well at a race event,

764
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: like like we spec Champagne on Die and stuff, that's

765
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: like those are the times of like maybe that's the

766
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: times I'm chasing like that feeling.

767
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't always live in that permanently because

768
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: then you're gonna always try to find what's after that,

769
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: right of course.

770
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've known Die for forever now too, Like we're

771
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: super good friends.

772
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: How did you guys meet through my wife? Well you

773
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: met Tony through your wife too, right? Yeah?

774
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: Wa, what does your wife do?

775
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: No, she used to be more involved in cars. Yeah,

776
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: like she she did some I would say, like modeling

777
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 3: for like clothing brands back in the days.

778
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: Sounds like you know your wife for a lot, buy

779
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: a nice bouquet of flowers on your drag home.

780
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: The F one tip was for her birthday, So I

781
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: took her.

782
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Oh was it really? Oh that's sweet? Did she have

783
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: a great time?

784
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: She loved it?

785
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her.

786
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: She took me to my first F one race, which

787
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: is uh oh seven for my birthday? So was that

788
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: at Cota Montreal?

789
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I think you guys have been married sixteen years

790
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: since O seven?

791
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: What is the recipe for marriage?

792
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: What do you think?

793
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 2: What do you think you've been able to last this long?

794
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Well, we've had our shares of like ups and downs.

795
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: But I think I think if you truly love somebody

796
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 3: like you will actually take the time and be like, hey,

797
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: let's talk about our problems. Right. I think it's when

798
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: you stop talking that's just when it goes all downhill.

799
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm not a very talkative person, you know, especially

800
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: like two people around me, but I'm like, no, I

801
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: need to step up and just be like, hey, this

802
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: is what's the problem. What's bothering me, what's bothering you?

803
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it. And then every time we have

804
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: that serious talk, things get better. So I think communication

805
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: is probably the number one thing, you know. I think

806
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: people when they don't say anything, it's like, how do

807
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: I know what you want? You know, you have to

808
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 3: like express your needs to each other to make sure

809
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: that they're met. Right.

810
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: I heard somewhere someone say, never go to bed angry

811
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: that you loved one. Always talk it out, Yeah.

812
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: Because eventually just start resenting each other and it's never good.

813
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: So when you guys are like working on these cars,

814
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: you're not at home a lot because you guys are

815
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: working on their cars, right, Yeah, And she's cool with that.

816
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: She's like totally totally has anything work related. She never questions.

817
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: She knows. It's like it's for work, you know. So

818
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 3: but these days I don't I don't do the all

819
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: nighters too much anymore.

820
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: So I had a lot of problems with my wife

821
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: anytime I would do like a project carm And I

822
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 2: realized something lately is that, you know I've been very

823
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: selfish with the car stuff. Is that I never included her,

824
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, And it's something that I think, you know,

825
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: like hanging out with you, Amelia, and then also like

826
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: meeting couples right that do like motorsport together they have

827
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: a car project together, like all of a sudden, like

828
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: it was like the lens was like cleared, and I

829
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: was like, what if I I've been doing like no

830
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: wonder Like I used to like point the finger at

831
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: her and go, god, you know, you give me like

832
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: too much stress, Like what's the big deal. Like it's

833
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: not like I'm going out drinking and like partying. I'm

834
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: just like hanging out with the boys and like, you know,

835
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: we're working on a car for what like And I realized,

836
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: like I was like, what is the problem with our relationship?

837
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Like why are we get you know, becoming so distant? Right?

838
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: We even like stop like sleeping in the same room

839
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: for a while because I would get home at like

840
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: three o'clock or something, and she just I could tell

841
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: that she's just pissed off, right, and and like I

842
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: woke up, it was like this clarity going. It was

843
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: all me. It was just this selfish thing of like, nah,

844
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, cars for the boys, and like, I'm I

845
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: hang out with the guys, and this is like my time.

846
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: And I created that problem.

847
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: And she loves you and just wants to spend time

848
00:39:59,560 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: with you.

849
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: So have you like invited her two more car stuff since.

850
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: Well, I've been looking for like a hobby that we

851
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: can share together. That's what I realize is that we

852
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: don't have that thing that we do together, you know,

853
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: Like I never took her to F one, right, So

854
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm, you know, hang out with my boys. Yeah,

855
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: it's gonna be like a guy's trip. And like now

856
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: I listened to you, and I'm like, you know, what

857
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: what have I been doing? Like she would love to

858
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: go to Vegas, she would love to go to F

859
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: one because that's really posh, like really dope stuff, right,

860
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to be out in the

861
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: track and with all the noise, you can hang out

862
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: and eat nice food and stuff. Yeah, it occurred to

863
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: me when I meet people that have like really healthy

864
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: relationships that are also into cars, they keep their like

865
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: spouses included, And that's something that I have to be

866
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: better at doing, you know what I mean.

867
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: Well, it's never too late.

868
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, true, Like I'm like very proactive and you

869
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: know about it now, Like it's in my head that

870
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: I won't do another car project or do like car

871
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: stuff without her being involved. That even go teach her

872
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: how to drive manual because all my cars are like

873
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: manual cars.

874
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Right And then maybe, but they also say, never have

875
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: your loved one teacher how to drive stick because because

876
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: it can turn into a big argument that memory. Yeah right,

877
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean just a lot of CONSIV patients

878
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: as just an educator period because it's it's a very

879
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: common thing when you drive stick that it's the person learning.

880
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: It's it's overwhelming because it's a lot to intake at once.

881
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but it's one of those things I think, like,

882
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: you know, we'll never forget that, right then, yeah, teaching

883
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: her in that car right for sure? Yeah, And as

884
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: of late, maybe because I'm getting older too, and like

885
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: what was I thinking? Like why was I so selfish

886
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: about that?

887
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: I think you guys also just grew up in a

888
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: different time in the world where it was all about

889
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: the guys and that was kind of just the norm

890
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: in a way, and I feel like in today's society

891
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: it's very much of like, well, it doesn't always have

892
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: to be all about the boys. It's like it kind

893
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: of doesn't matter as long as you all share the

894
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: same passion and and hobby. Like it's it's not so

895
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: like gender separated like that anymore. But I think back

896
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: then maybe that's more of what it was.

897
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is, like she, like I always assumed

898
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: that she wouldn't enjoy it anyways. That's why I don't

899
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: ask her. And that's the problem, right, you know, like

900
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: you should at least tell me, like, hey, you want

901
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: to come along with this experiences together. If she doesn't

902
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: want to or she's not into it, she'll tell me,

903
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: but at least I asked first, Right, So yeah, I

904
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: think that was that was a big thing recently that

905
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 3: it really helped our relationship.

906
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is there's similarities there, Yes, I mean this, Yeah,

907
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean that that's that's a great, great, great suggestion

908
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: to ask her first. And then you also have to

909
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: want that, you know what I mean. I think there

910
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: was a time where I was like, nah, I gotta

911
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: like I spend enough time with you. I gotta go

912
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: hang out with my guy friends, right, And then I think,

913
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: as I get older, I'm going, well, why can't she

914
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: be a part of that? Right? How many more summers

915
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: do I have with her?

916
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: Well, it's also the person you chose to grow old

917
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: with and spend your life with. You know, you'd think

918
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: you'd want them to come around and you'd want to

919
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: enjoy every moment together life short, that's your person.

920
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: I think I needed it to get out of it

921
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: to my system too. Yeah, I mean there's like this

922
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: idea I had in my head. It's like I might

923
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: hang out with my friends. We're gonna like make cool

924
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: ship and be cool. And then after you're like, we're

925
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: not that cool. It's okay, it's not that cool shit either,

926
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: nobody gives a ship at and then your wife is

927
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: pissed off.

928
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: Right yeah right, ultimately that's what really matters.

929
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Right.

930
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm glad we talked about that. That's and

931
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: and thanks for your insight. Yeah, maybe we do come

932
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: from a different generation where it was like very singular

933
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: in terms of the car stuff is for dudes. Yeah,

934
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: not so much anymore, I don't think so.

935
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Another thing is like my wife recently got

936
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: into a hobby of her own, which is mushing, Like

937
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: she MUSHes.

938
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: What's mushing?

939
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: Like mushing? The dogs pull a sled? Really, we have husky?

940
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: Where does she do this?

941
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: So they do mushing on land with like a scooter

942
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: and the dogs pull you. But we also go to

943
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: mammoth and she doesn't, you know, like the sled dog. Right.

944
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: So she picked up that hobby maybe a couple of

945
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: years ago after we got our first husky, and I

946
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is like cars for you, this

947
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: is your hobby, right, Yeah, So we found something in

948
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: common where she is really into it, and then I

949
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: put myself to participate with her, and that really helped

950
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: out as far as like connecting with her. You know,

951
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: like it's probably the greatest thing ever.

952
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I see you getting all like aerodynamic with the sleds

953
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: now and the diets of the dog. Yeah.

954
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a whole science to it.

955
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

956
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: So it's it's literally like what I do, but for

957
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: like a type of sport, you.

958
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Make it hype bar version. That's cool. I don't know

959
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: you could do that here, you could? Yeah, yeah, you

960
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: run a great hobby she found. Yeah, and it keeps

961
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: her active too.

962
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: Right for a while, she's like, you know, obviously she's

963
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 3: busy with kids and stuff. But like now she gets

964
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: out of the house, she's like walking, running the dogs

965
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: and doing all this stuff. I like, you keep doing that.

966
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: That's awesome. You found something you love, you know. And

967
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: then I was like, how can I be part of that?

968
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: So like I start joining her with her things.

969
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife, like she likes golf and she's been

970
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: trying to get me to go play golf. I hate golf.

971
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: Golf with her, I hate it with a passion. So

972
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: I gotta figure out a way to like enjoy it.

973
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Think of it more as like a meditation than anything

974
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: open fresh air.

975
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: The problem is that I've yet to get over the

976
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: because I'm hyper competitive it comes to sports. Golf is

977
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: the sporting I've been kicked off golf course for like

978
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: throwing white clubs, right like, because you can't do that.

979
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm mad at myself, Like, you know, golf is like

980
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: a solo sports, not like I'm pissed off at the

981
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: person playing with me, your whole Yeah, But like I

982
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: get so I get so angry at myself, and I'm like,

983
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: can I just enjoy the sports. Maybe it's like changing

984
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: the perspective enjoying the time with her, right, Because I

985
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: get obsessive over things. That's why I don't have hobbies.

986
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: If I do something, I go down this rabbit hole

987
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: and I just stick with it, right, And I do

988
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: need to like change that about myself.

989
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: Right.

990
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: And but the golf.

991
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: Thing, Man, I'm not great at golf. If it goes off,

992
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: I might kick at her. Three. I like it. I

993
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: like it. I like driving the golf cart.

994
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could do that. But she wants she wants

995
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: to walk it.

996
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: She wants to walk.

997
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: She wants to exercise too, right, and she actually loves

998
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: the even like dressing up. She likes the funality of it,

999
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: which I I'm like, I just want to wear like

1000
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: sweats and you know, But but I do need to

1001
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: make an effort. I got to figure that out. How

1002
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: can I calm myself down and just enjoy golf without

1003
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: throwing the clubs into the water. But anyway, that was awesome.

1004
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, thank you, thank you so much

1005
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: For coming on.