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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. Dan hands is here, got some

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Speaker 1: now and I want to just make a couple of

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Speaker 1: points about the old list before we turn to the

427
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Speaker 1: conversation where we are now out. Um, the three coaches

428
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: that we had as third degree hot, but was Naggy,

429
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and Greg you would pounded the table for

430
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: fig Fongio, which I thought was interesting, Um, and for

431
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: second degree hot. But entering the season we all agreed

432
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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, UM, I me and Greg both thought Mike

433
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: McCarthy was second degree hot but Mike Zimmer. Dan and

434
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: Gregg thought, uh, it was a hot seat for him.

435
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: And then Greg you thought Joe Judge was in more

436
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: trouble than people realized. Was I on this show? I

437
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: feel like I did I log any comments at all?

438
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: Maybe we were right in the fence a little bit.

439
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Here you go, here's some Mark Seiler first degree, which meant,

440
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're probably okay, but keep an

441
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Speaker 1: eye on it. And this is maybe an interesting category

442
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Speaker 1: for the purposes of this conversation. In November, Pete Carroll

443
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Speaker 1: Fongio for Dan and Mark. Dan had Gruden, which was

444
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: not how I saw it playing Apple. Gruden did lose

445
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: his job. Uh, Joe Judge I had uh Zimmer, Mark

446
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: you had Zimmer at first degree, and Mark you also

447
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: had Mike McCarthy first degree hot button. Now it's interesting

448
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: those three coaches at the very bottom right now, Zach

449
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: Taylor's feeling no pain. You'd win two more games the

450
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: rest of the season. There's no way you're changing Zach Taylor.

451
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Vic Fonsio, despite being five and five. I would keep

452
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: them right there because I just feel like it's playoffs

453
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: or bust, and they're gonna want to make a change,

454
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: and Naggy feels like he's in the same spot ultimately,

455
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: like we don't really know, but I don't think he's

456
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Speaker 1: done enough to feel any different. So I kinda I

457
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: don't know if if you guys did anything like this,

458
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: but I put together my my kind of list, updated list,

459
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Speaker 1: and and I do have six names that I think.

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00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: I labeled it as hot a f uh, and a

461
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: lot of trouble and then when you when you again,

462
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: five to eight guys, so it's it's it's a list

463
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: of guys that are in a lot of trouble right now.

464
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: But just all cycle real quick and tell me when

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Speaker 1: to stop. Uh. This category is don't be stupid. This

466
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: is not even up for debate, and this is all

467
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: alphabetical order. Just somebody knows this is in the order

468
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: of their safety here, but arian's Belichick, Harbaugh, McVeigh, Peyton,

469
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: Read and Tomlin. Uh, not even a question, not even

470
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: not involved with this segment. Everybody go with that, probably

471
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: add okay, well, all right, so the next category for

472
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: me is safe a f So they're very safe unless

473
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Speaker 1: something crazy happens between now in January again alphabetical order. Okay, Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: La Fleur, McCarthy, McDermott, Shanahan, Rabel. You want to put

475
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Speaker 1: a couple of those guys up there, and the don't

476
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Speaker 1: even bring them up. Sure, La Fleur. I mean, he's

477
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: right now the greatest coach in NFL history, winning percentage wise.

478
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Speaker 1: But McCarthy is that one that I keep saying, if

479
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Speaker 1: they like lost an ugly playoff game, I could see

480
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: them elevating Kellen Moore. I don't, we don't need to

481
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: keep having that same conversation, but any love that, I

482
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: really do think that it's possible if something weird happened

483
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: and teams are trying to high higher Kellen Moore, which

484
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: feels like a very plausible scenario. So I think what

485
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: the next category, which I have labeled as they good,

486
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: is where you see McCarthy. And it should be noted

487
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: we just talked about about the Desert odds. McCarthy is

488
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: second right now odds for Coach of the Year, So

489
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: he's I think he's in good shape. But you never

490
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: know where the Dallas it could be a volatile place.

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00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: Uh they good mark alphabetical all right, good from A

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Speaker 1: to C Frank Reich, Matt Rule, Ron, Rivera, Robert Sala,

493
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, Kevin Stefanski. A lot

494
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: of coaches with last name is beginning now, is there?

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00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: Thank you for noticing that. This is fascinating to me.

496
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: I just named one, two, three, four, or five, six, seven,

497
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: eight coaches, all of them with the last name that

498
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: started with an R, orn s. That's weird, all in

499
00:25:54,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: the same that's that is an oddity Mars category right, Rule, Rivera, Rosenthal, Solace, Sirianni, Smith, Stay, Lestefanski, Sessler. Well,

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Speaker 1: you put that ar Vanski that you put You put

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00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: my name actually out of order of alphabetically. You put

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00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: me last, which suggests something else. Rivera's Rivera probably should

503
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: be there. You're right, but he is the one of

504
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: that group that stands out to me as you're the

505
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: one who talked me out of that. I was saying

506
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: that like a week ago, Nah, just because it's that organization.

507
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: But you're probably right. Oh. I think Rivera is is safe.

508
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: I think he's extremely safe. I think I changed my

509
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: mind again, it's just that team. I don't do you Mark,

510
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: do you have an issue? With me having Stefanski and

511
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: Vye good as opposed to safe a f two weeks ago,

512
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: I would have very large. I think he's safe. He's

513
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: done too much and he's brought too much calm to

514
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: the organization. And I think he's flat out a good coach.

515
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: So I mean, unless something insane occurred, um, I think

516
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: he should be safe for me. The Browns suit Jimmy Haslin,

517
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: who has now uh a fear and anxiety about being

518
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: labeled an owner who cycles through coaches, is not firing

519
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: the coach of the Year one year later would be

520
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: not as they went five and twelve and Stefanski, you know, well,

521
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: here's the truth. The truth here is the only reason

522
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I had him at a safe as a F is

523
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: because the nature and this this is recency buys the

524
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: fact that there's grumbling and there's some discontent, and he

525
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: had the Odell soap opera. Is it possible there could

526
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: be the locker room gets out of hand. But I

527
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: kind of overrule myself there and Greg, you think you

528
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: should be safe af why don't we pop him up there?

529
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: It does kind of I like that there there was

530
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: all these s s and rs here. It interrupts that

531
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: part of the process. But I think people will forget

532
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: about that aspect. Okay, good, So he well move Stefanski

533
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: up to safe AF. He has earned it. He's a

534
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: very good coach. He is the reigning coach of the year. Um.

535
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: All right, now, Ricky, now we turn up the gas burners.

536
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: All right, so let's got a was they good? They're good?

537
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: This one? Is they good? Okay? Question mark is essential there? Yeah? Alright?

538
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: And um I mentioned that in the Bay good category,

539
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: we had six first year coaches here, uh Sala Sirianni,

540
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: Smith and Staley, and then Campbell and urban Meyer. I

541
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: have Campbell and urban Meyer in the they good category? Uh,

542
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, I haven't they good? Zach Taylor and Mike

543
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: Zimmer I I would bibbles. I think Mike Zimmer um

544
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: is maybe I'm just projecting my own feelings about the

545
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer era. I think he'd be in the next

546
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: hotter category for me based on the vikings. Just let's

547
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: say they melt away as I think they want to do. Um, Mike,

548
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: The Mike zimmer experience feels like it's run a little

549
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: long at this point. Right. You have days like that

550
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: Chargers game and you you know the football tape, Heeds

551
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: will come away from being like Mike's embers still one

552
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: of the best defensive play callers in the league. Like

553
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: he has games where he just gives you a huge advantage.

554
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: But if they go seven and ten and whatever that

555
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: ending would entail, I think he's gone. So I would

556
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: make him. I would make him higher, just because like

557
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: they just can't keep cycling back this group. Spielman and

558
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Zimmer have been together forever. Spielman has been there for

559
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years. I think he probably sticks around, but

560
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: I think they would make a change if they don't

561
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, all right, And um, I have the

562
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: last category the names. I had Bessacchi in there, but

563
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a little unfair, and also it's it's

564
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: weird because he's an interim coach. I'm gonna pulls out

565
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: with the caveat that. I think it would be very

566
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: hard for him to be the head coach next year.

567
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Pacia bumped. Yeah, I think that's what's happening. So this

568
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: is the final category. Grouped them all together because I

569
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: think they're all in trouble here. Hot af a lot

570
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: of discomfort. As you could hear. This was a ruling

571
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: session for this guy. He was there for hours. Uh.

572
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: David Culley, so the one first year guy that I

573
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: I've been pounding the drum on this one for a while.

574
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: I just think he was put in an impossible situation,

575
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: in a temporary hold situation, just to get through a

576
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: really bad year, a year that the organization is gonna

577
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: try to do everything in their power to kind of

578
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: strike from the record. Uh. And it's not David Culley's fault.

579
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: He's a veteran guy that got this gig. But man,

580
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: I could just see the Texans doing a hard pivot

581
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: to a whole new era and wanting to disassociate entirely

582
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: with quarterback, coach players, uh, the whole thing. So I

583
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: have him on the hot a f list also, fush,

584
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: I just think fixing a lot of trouble. He wouldn't

585
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: be here if we did this one week ago and

586
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: that Cowboys win. I was. I was bullish about the

587
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: Broncos and a lot of people were, and then they

588
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: went back right back to being an underachieving team. Uh Uh.

589
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: And Teddy, by the way, apologized he did and I

590
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: don't think he was forced to, like the media got

591
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: on him and Twitter got got crazy. The way he

592
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: put it, Greg, he watched the tape and it was

593
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: a hard watch with his teammates on Monday, and he

594
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: addressed it, which was good. And that's because he's a

595
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: good guy. So I'm not piling on here. No, it

596
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: was good. It's been a tough couple of days in

597
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: the Teddy discourse. Um, but I'm glad and I'm not

598
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised as a leader. He he seemed to

599
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: realize watching it it was worse than he imagined. Well also,

600
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean I can imagine that there was, because it

601
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: was such a story that in that room where you've

602
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: got all your team around you and your coaches and

603
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: they probably also watching, you know, for the entire team

604
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: to watch together, which is it is funny because like

605
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: if he was he watched Tom Brady after his interceptions

606
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: in Washington or this year, he literally doesn't move a

607
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: muscle and and then and I think that's smart if

608
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: you're Tom Brady. But well, if you're Tom Brady, yeah,

609
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: I guess the greatest quarterback in the history of this

610
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: It just looked optics wise that the player ran right

611
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: by him and he ran right next to him and

612
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: he should have just like kind of got he you know.

613
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: He the only mistake, well besides the onfield mistake. And

614
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hear. I didn't like people like

615
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: firing back. He almost lost a leg. It's like, I

616
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: get that, and everyone respects the hell out of Teddy

617
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: for what he was able to do to get back

618
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: on the field, but it was obviously it put the

619
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: team at a disadvantage by that was the game changing play. Anyway,

620
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield season changed by doing one of these plays

621
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: against the Texans. So there is a conversation about how

622
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: much do you want your quarterbacks to be technically not

623
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones saying he doesn't want Dak Prescott bareling into

624
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: people as a runner either. I mean, it's just like

625
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: you lose those guys, everything goes out. I I disagree

626
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: on Colley because he got a five year contract and

627
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: I the only way I see that happening is if

628
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: ownership blows up Cassario. The GM they you know, paid

629
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: so much and did all this to bring from New England, Like,

630
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: unless he's gone, if Cassario is their colors there, why

631
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: what did they expect that of this. I see where

632
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Dan is coming from. I see him as a total

633
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: kind of h Patsy Lee Harvey Oswald type figure who

634
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: could be swept out of there. But you you then

635
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: have to turn around and find someone to come handle

636
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: the head coaching duties of this messy organization. And I'm

637
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: not sure you're he's willing to do it. He may

638
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: be the only human that's willing to do it. Right now,

639
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: I think it's one I think it's one more year,

640
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: and I would put Pete Carroll into this category hot

641
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: af I do have just now, they got the Cardinals

642
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: coming in, you got your quarterback and him. I don't know,

643
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: like one way or another idea. Well, you have been

644
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: on this Carol thing, and I can get where you're

645
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: coming from, Greg, But you have to also look at

646
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: the overall Peat Carroll experience in Seattle. What he's done.

647
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like he's been. He's been as

648
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: successful as you could ask, and his defense is playing

649
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: better right now. But if they go six and eleven

650
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: and Russ wants out, you gotta get someone better to

651
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: be one or the other. All right, Let's move then

652
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: to the rest of the hot A f category. Vic

653
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Faggio on board with that, absolutely, Yeah, it's really the

654
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: new GM. George Payton too, who I think wants a

655
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: new coach. Brian Flores. Now maybe you can put him

656
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: in the vegod category, but I just think Flores is

657
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: on a lot of trouble and what's been one of

658
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the more disappointing seasons for Miami football in a while.

659
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Um Joe Judge, I have him on a very hot

660
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: seat because and I think he kind ofs caught up

661
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: organizationally with the GM is probably gonna get swept out, gentleman,

662
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: and the new GM is gonna probably want his own guys.

663
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: So I think Judge is in trouble there. And then

664
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: I keep Matt Naggy where he was in August, which

665
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: is on the hottest of the hot seats. It's interesting

666
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: how few clear cases there are here. To me, Naggy

667
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: is even he's not clear because ownership there is so strange.

668
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: There's so many Bears fans that are worried justin fields.

669
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: Playing well down the stretch even if they go six

670
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: eleven will mean they keep Naggy because of ownership. I

671
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: don't know like that it should go without saying the

672
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: last eight or nine games matters, so much like if

673
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: you finished four and four. Owners have a tendency to

674
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: look the other way. Fngio seems to me the clearest.

675
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: If he doesn't make the playoffs, he's out, Naggy, I'm

676
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: with you, and then the rest that just seems a

677
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: little gray, a little grey or that. But in our league,

678
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: these owners and the teams, they'll make change for the

679
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: sake of change. There's a reason it's all two or three.

680
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: These coaches will go. It will go horribly for in

681
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: the next d eight games. Like there's the flip side

682
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: of that, and know and if that happens to any

683
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: of these guys, I'm with you. I mean, the Bears

684
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: ownership has been very patient with Matt Nique you very

685
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: patient with Jim Ryan Pace, and I wonder if that's

686
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: their m O in general, is too much patience where

687
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: another team Matt Nigge would have been out two years ago.

688
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Virginia mc caskey, she's ninety eight

689
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: years old. She's still going every game game. She just

690
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: might like you might like Mattie and be like, I

691
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: like these boys. Yeah, you guys, that's ages from Gregg.

692
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: But I'll let it slid well. He is fifty years

693
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: younger than than her. I'm not saying the boys things

694
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: that you're suggesting just because she's ninety two, that she's

695
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: not thinking critically about, like you know, her hires. You

696
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: have expressed out mark about a change happening. Do you

697
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: want to put a sandwich online black Monday? Naggie is

698
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: one of the guys that goes maybe not that weak

699
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: exactly day exactly, but he will be out of a job.

700
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: I will do it. Why not because you're gonna have

701
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: to buy me a sangwiche hypothetically, That's fine, I'll buy

702
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: you one. Ron. I also think that I've been on.

703
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: I do think he should go. I'm not arguing that

704
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: he shouldn't. I just don't trust the Bears to do

705
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: the right thing. Just consider fifteen years from now, roughly,

706
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: for you, Dan, you will be as old. You will

707
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: be as old as um the Bears owner was when

708
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie was born. That's all I'm saying. It's a

709
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: big age difference. She's going to see him as a

710
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: young man. Mathematically, you are you are dead on. Give

711
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: him an extension, all right? A better record than Kyle Shanahan.

712
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: They tell me, all right, let's let's all right, So

713
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: there you go. That is the uh you know, hot

714
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: but check in And that was not any commentary on

715
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: their actual anatomy, So you don't got me on that.

716
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I thought Mark made some comments that felt more physically

717
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: based earlier. I did not at all. But I think

718
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: you might have been talking about your own button, So

719
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: I think you're in the clear. Yeah, I'm allowed to

720
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: say anything I want about my own physical right. Well,

721
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: that's out of context, I would imagine. But also you're saying,

722
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: I like a nice butt smack every once in a while,

723
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: so you're asking someone to do it to you. Now

724
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: we're getting back into the realm of the gray smack

725
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: once in a while. Out of context because I believe

726
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: I was talking about a team getting their butt smacked

727
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: by another team. I believe that's what that was. What judge,

728
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, let's take a break and

729
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: then we'll hit the T and F preview. But I

730
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: know you're gonna lack it, am, I said, take, I

731
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: don't know where we are. Yeah, everybody welcomes today. This

732
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: is the second time, not not not no worries here No,

733
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna like it. Yeah, take it away Thursday night

734
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 1: Football preview and joining us her tradition the great count

735
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: cut calm on you know that will I am production

736
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: slathered all over Rianka. We gotta lose that. She seems

737
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: naive to what happens um in certain places in most

738
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: any city. But I'm I like her optimism over around

739
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I'm going to throw something out there

740
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: and it might not be that popular, but I think

741
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: that the official song of Thursday Night Football should be

742
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: young Jeez, put on Come. But you have a lot

743
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: of say so that that could happen always. Yeah, it's

744
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: sort of your show. You got you got Robert Hunt

745
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: on your show. That was you, right, that was you. Oh.

746
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I kept texting the producers and I took my message

747
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: to Twitter. So and Robert Hunt, of course is the

748
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: folk hero the offensive linement for the Dolphins. Uh, that

749
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: was That's a good get. And we were hoping leading

750
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: into the game that Justin Tucker would win the game

751
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: and you'd be able to get a kicker up there.

752
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: But to get a guard who had an amazing non touchdown,

753
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: that's what we're looking. He was upside down at one point,

754
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: we gave him the slash guitar post game and apparently

755
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: he was playing the guitar in the locker rooms. Great, yeah,

756
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: all right, it's a wonderful story, truly. That was then

757
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: this is now coming up on Thursday in New England.

758
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: Patriots travel to uh the Mercedes Benz Don't Bingo to

759
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: face the Falcons. And I love to say, and this

760
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: is Connie's part of her job is to give it

761
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: some juice. I'd love to say, this feels like a

762
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: great game and Thursday night weird to tell prefess it

763
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: that way. Anything could happened. Look at the Ravens and

764
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: Dolphins last week, for example. But the Falcons just got

765
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: humiliated by the Cowboys. They won't have Cordell cordar Le

766
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: Cordurell Patterson, who has an injury. Most likely he's out

767
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: sella county. Why how is the how did the Falcons

768
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: stop the Patriots from going off? You know, I always

769
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: have a hard time with whether or not it's Cordarrell

770
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: or Cordurell Idyl. But but for interpretations, that's going to

771
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: be a big storyline heading into this game because he's

772
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: been so good for them, and I just feel like,

773
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: coming off of last week, are we so close together?

774
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm on my spot at when you

775
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: were singing together, now you're not. You're sharing lyrics ahead. Okay,

776
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: so maybe after what happened last week with the Falcons,

777
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: they kind of can come to a little bit. It's

778
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: just it's such a bummer with right. I just I

779
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: want more for Matt Ryan. I feel like he doesn't

780
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: deserve all of this. He doesn't have time to throw,

781
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't have his skill position players out there, he

782
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: doesn't have a defense. There are a lot of things

783
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: that have gone against Matt Ryan. And maybe this will

784
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: be the first time that they can win at home

785
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: this season because they haven't done it yet andans but

786
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: it's Thursday night football, and I feel like the weirdest

787
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: stuff happens. It always goes sideways. Look at last week,

788
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: the whole pregame show, the whole week I spent talking

789
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: about the Ravens and they were coming off of that

790
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: effort the week before where they looked so good and

791
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was back in the m v P conversation

792
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: and then the Dolphins defense just lit them up. So

793
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: who knows. I think that this could be the get

794
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: right game for the fact, get this isn't even lockable

795
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: in our game. This is a point spread. Really it

796
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: moved it started at six. I don't actually believe that

797
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots are going because I because I probably I

798
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: would be happy to and my long long reasons. You

799
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: try to at least it's hard to make a case

800
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: for them. I really think Cordorrell Patterson is the Jenga

801
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: piece for them because he got hurt. It's supposedly a

802
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: high ankle spring. The Falcons are saying that it will

803
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: come down to game time, but our guy Ian rap

804
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: Board does not think he's playing. Not only was he here,

805
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: but Hayden Hurst, who's a good tight end, a great

806
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: number two titles, got hurt in that game too, is

807
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: also out. So now it's just Kyle Pitts Covin Ridley,

808
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, still on the reserve list to Russell Gauge.

809
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Russell Gauges is fine, but you're gonna be double teaming, uh,

810
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts all game. You're gonna probably put J. C.

811
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Jackson on Gauge. And that's it's a lot to ask,

812
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: Like Matt Ryan is either a top five quarterback when

813
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: he's protected or he's like a total disaster. I mean,

814
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: I guess at this point it's like, you know, just

815
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: c gmail C g im into the show. You weren't

816
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: saying anything. Mark, I wanted to get you in there.

817
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's a good producer. She's doing to work.

818
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I like last Mark, do you think is

819
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: a good producer? Oh yeah, i'd keep my answer similar,

820
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't be exactly the same, like a nice butt smack

821
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: once in a while. We got that, all right, Well

822
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: you want to drop the song on me while I'm

823
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: saying whatever I'm about to say. To be my guest,

824
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: the floor is yours. Um, I would just say this

825
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: Patriots team and we're not talking about like there's no boundary,

826
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Like there's no boundary lines for them at this point,

827
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm in the super Bowl before last hell yeah, also

828
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: picked the brown. So I'm not gonna give you too much.

829
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well you're giving me credit. It's not what

830
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about. But they have they have gone from

831
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: child uh in this season, to preteen to young man,

832
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: and they are becoming raging adults. And they at this point,

833
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I'd say Bill Belichick is back and they are like,

834
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I look at a team that simply what are there?

835
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna be as perfectly coached as possible.

836
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: The Falcons have the worst pass rush in the league.

837
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: They're decimated on offense. I guess you can throw the

838
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: ball to Kyle Pitts twenty times an attempt that but

839
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: nothing on paper, and it happened last week. I hear

840
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: you uh suggests that the that the Patriots go in

841
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: and have a kind of game where they don't take

842
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: the Falcon seriously and crumble. I just the way they've

843
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: been running the ball too. I mean, you can gash

844
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta right up the middle all you want. I mean,

845
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: there were moments in that Dallas game where they're cutting

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Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy and he's trying to hold back giggles

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Speaker 1: on the sideline. After what Dallas was able to do

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Speaker 1: with every aspect of their offense, it's a terrible spot

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Speaker 1: for Atlanta to be on national television. Yeah, red ass week.

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Speaker 1: It ended very, very differently than the Falcons wanted. For sure,

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Speaker 1: Yes it did well. Mike McCarthy was talking about and

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Speaker 1: what he wanted that the result that he was aiming

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Speaker 1: for all week. But Mac Jones he's been doing so well.

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Speaker 1: He's been playing awesome. And not to mention, as you said,

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Speaker 1: the the running game a hundred and eighty four rushing

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Speaker 1: yards for the Patriots last week. Romandre Stevenson, Hello, my friend,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Are you going to be our postgame guests?

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Speaker 1: Love their backfield. It doesn't sound like Damien Harris is

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Speaker 1: gonna return. I don't know. Uh yeah. Who would be

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Speaker 1: a good guest for them? Probably Mac Jones? Mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: Would he be good? Have you heard Mac Jones recently?

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Speaker 1: He's been fully programmed by Patriot White kind of wizard.

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Speaker 1: As long as you protect the football and matriculate down

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Speaker 1: the field, we will be Connie Fox can get something

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Speaker 1: out of you like that to begin. You know who's

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Speaker 1: good is J C. Jackson, who you could see picking

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Speaker 1: off Matt Ryan a couple of times. He's got a personality. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you like the j C. Jackson. It's you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled by what's happening. Life's gotta get harder for Mac

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Speaker 1: after this week. It's Titans bills, Cults bills for really

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Speaker 1: good past So that'll be a bigger test. This doesn't

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Speaker 1: figure to be it. It's Dean P's on the other side,

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Speaker 1: longtime Patriots defensive coordinator who is one of those game

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Speaker 1: plan guys where it's either all good or all terrible.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably try to throw a lot up mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: but they should have mismatches everywhere. And if if this

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Speaker 1: game does get weird, because Thursday night football is weird

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Speaker 1: as hell. Um, you know who's a really good, good

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Speaker 1: ass kicker, Young wait Coup. So if we want to

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Speaker 1: continue to put a little focus on keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on the kickers. Um, he seems like a dude that

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Speaker 1: might be you might maybe worth checking in on the

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Speaker 1: old very strong to we We were standing about five

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Speaker 1: to ten ft from Young wakeup throughout the London game,

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Speaker 1: big big man, a lot of muscles and very angry. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Many times during the game he threw a helmet into

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Speaker 1: uh you know one of those Well, Greg, this is

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Speaker 1: pro football work through his helmet like, yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: very thick bodied. Alright, kick now Colleen, what else do

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about before we say goodbye? Um,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about the fact that we haven't

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Speaker 1: hung out in a guys, Yes, I miss you to

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Speaker 1: address that. It is, you know, the dynamic of our

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Speaker 1: friendship group during the season. It's just not going to

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Speaker 1: happen a lot a lot of social gatherings. But I did,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to open this up and let you know.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, I do plan to host a pre

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Speaker 1: party get together ahead of the holiday bash. And you guys,

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Speaker 1: once in a while, you're invited to hands this manner

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Speaker 1: mark especially thank you. I will be there, I promise you.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait. I love a party. Where has been

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Speaker 1: on ice? That's so far? But I get to come

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Speaker 1: out for one night during the way. I like that

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Speaker 1: very good. You've been on ice. I missed. I missed

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Speaker 1: what you just said the summer of Connie Ice. But

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Speaker 1: I do get to come out like one night season

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Speaker 1: and that's the Christmas party. What He's great. He has

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Speaker 1: a big announcement. Four Mar twelve is an American sports writer.

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Speaker 1: Was married NFL media broadcaster Colley Wolfe. John, who was

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Speaker 1: a Pisces, resides in Los Angeles with his wife and JUDEOK.

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00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: Like Greg the Wishes, he was married to John Gonzalez.

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Speaker 1: That watch out, should I be worried, No, am, I

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Speaker 1: gonna find you at the house when J and J

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Speaker 1: brotherhood that we share it says something about gone so

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Speaker 1: that that was recorded four or five years ago and

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Speaker 1: no updates have been needed, Like he's just staying and

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Speaker 1: I kind of think it's speaks to his consistency. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to get pulled into something where you're trying

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Speaker 1: to create a controversy between me and gon So it

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Speaker 1: speaks to his nature and we don't want to have

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Speaker 1: to rerecord it either, So just keep things the way

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Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, okay, good? Alright, So Colleen will shuffle

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Speaker 1: off to Atlanta in her private jet and make sure

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Speaker 1: you check her out on NFL Network's coverage of Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, and uh, we will be back on Thursday

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Speaker 1: with our uh week eleven preview. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 1: Week eleven already here? How many more weeks of TNF

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Speaker 1: do you have? It's already? I think our last one

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Speaker 1: is Christmas Day? Okay, so yeah, you're traveling. We have

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Speaker 1: off next week for Thanksgiving and New Orleans, Minnesota, Chargers, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: and then we have like a couple no we already

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Speaker 1: didn't Miami. Maybe they'll go back to Miami. So Gonzo

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Speaker 1: is spending Christmas alone. Greg, just that's an update I'll

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Speaker 1: gotta wrap up Greg as a gift for John Miami.

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Speaker 1: I remember when my family used to leave me on Christmas,

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Speaker 1: your your childhood family. Tell us more about the wife

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Speaker 1: and children. Yeah, they would leave me here alone. We'd

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Speaker 1: have to celebrate. We'd pretend Christmas was like a week

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Speaker 1: before so that they could get a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So I can't really pretend the pandemic and you're stuck here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, there we go. That is a just a

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Speaker 1: real nice snapshot into the whole group today. Uh, Mark,

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Speaker 1: do you think we've covered everything? Oh? Yeah, well good,

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Speaker 1: all right, so then we can get going perfect. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan hands is signing off for the Tiny Box,

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Speaker 1: the Quiet Storm, the Old Boss Rick's call a wreck,

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Speaker 1: got a roll all right until Thursday. You know what

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Speaker 1: to do? He the call