WEBVTT - Heavyweight Check In 6 0:00:15.210 --> 0:00:20.810 Pushkin. Hey everyone, before we start the show, I just 0:00:20.850 --> 0:00:23.650 wanted to make a little announcement. Heavyweight is going to 0:00:23.689 --> 0:00:26.889 remain available on every platform, but we're going to be 0:00:26.890 --> 0:00:30.010 making some extra bonus material exclusive to those who listen 0:00:30.090 --> 0:00:33.650 on Spotify right now. On Spotify, we're offering the hard 0:00:33.730 --> 0:00:39.169 hitting and beer sponsored eight part investigative series, The Heavyweight Diaries, 0:00:39.370 --> 0:00:41.730 and we'll have some other fun bonus content coming later 0:00:41.810 --> 0:00:43.890 this year. So if you want to check all that out, 0:00:44.050 --> 0:00:47.290 you can follow us for free on Spotify. All right, 0:00:47.730 --> 0:00:56.050 let's start the show. Hello Stevie, Yes, let me get 0:00:56.170 --> 0:01:01.970 Khalila on the line. Hello, Khalila, It's Jonathan. 0:01:02.370 --> 0:01:02.490 Hi. 0:01:02.650 --> 0:01:08.330 Yep, Goldstein. I know you're both therey. What's going on? 0:01:09.170 --> 0:01:09.250 So? 0:01:09.610 --> 0:01:12.569 You know, I'm at home with my parents, and my 0:01:12.650 --> 0:01:16.930 older brother and his fiance, Miriam are staying with us 0:01:16.930 --> 0:01:20.850 as well. Yeah, and we're all pretty much on top 0:01:20.930 --> 0:01:24.250 of each other and there's like not really anywhere to 0:01:24.490 --> 0:01:28.850 escape to. But the thing I'm really enjoying about it, 0:01:28.890 --> 0:01:32.209 actually is I've gotten to know Miriam so much better. 0:01:33.090 --> 0:01:36.289 She and my brother have been dating for like eight years, 0:01:36.330 --> 0:01:38.490 but I don't think we'd ever hung out one on 0:01:38.490 --> 0:01:39.770 one before. 0:01:39.930 --> 0:01:43.850 Now it feels like Jane Austen novel or something, where 0:01:43.890 --> 0:01:47.290 like your brother's betrothed is staying at the house, and 0:01:47.370 --> 0:01:50.250 like the ladies are getting to spend time together and 0:01:50.290 --> 0:01:52.090 like go for strolls and stuff. 0:01:53.090 --> 0:01:55.050 Yeah, and I'm learning all these little things about her 0:01:55.210 --> 0:01:59.330 which I find so entertaining. She has a terrible sense 0:01:59.330 --> 0:02:03.290 of direction. Basically, she can't form any kind of mental 0:02:03.330 --> 0:02:06.330 map in her head. She told me this great story 0:02:06.410 --> 0:02:09.930 about when she first started driving. She was in the 0:02:10.010 --> 0:02:12.370 town where she grew up her whole life. 0:02:12.329 --> 0:02:14.690 And I got lost, and I had no idea where 0:02:14.690 --> 0:02:17.650 I was going, and somehow I just decided to follow 0:02:17.690 --> 0:02:19.010 the car in front of me. 0:02:20.090 --> 0:02:21.130 Where were you trying to go? 0:02:21.610 --> 0:02:22.690 I was trying to get home. 0:02:22.850 --> 0:02:24.250 You were trying to go home, and you were just like, 0:02:24.370 --> 0:02:26.610 maybe the car in front of me is also going 0:02:26.690 --> 0:02:27.650 to my house. 0:02:27.970 --> 0:02:29.410 I didn't know, but I. 0:02:29.490 --> 0:02:31.810 Just figured they were going somewhere, and they would at 0:02:31.890 --> 0:02:34.690 least be going like on real roads and going like 0:02:34.730 --> 0:02:37.730 on the right direction in roads. But actually it was 0:02:37.770 --> 0:02:39.490 a terrible idea. And the car in front of me 0:02:39.730 --> 0:02:42.410 turned onto the highway, so I just followed them on 0:02:42.450 --> 0:02:45.610 the highway for like, I don't know a while, and 0:02:45.690 --> 0:02:48.730 finally I like pulled over in a gas station and 0:02:48.770 --> 0:02:51.970 I was like, where am I? And it was in Pennsylvania, 0:02:52.010 --> 0:02:55.290 and where did you start? I started in Maryland. 0:03:00.450 --> 0:03:05.850 It's pretty extreme, Like she gets lost in restaurants. If 0:03:05.890 --> 0:03:08.169 she goes to the bathroom, she can't find her way 0:03:08.210 --> 0:03:09.090 back to the table. 0:03:10.530 --> 0:03:10.730 You know. 0:03:10.770 --> 0:03:12.690 She's been at our house for a little while now, 0:03:12.930 --> 0:03:15.850 and still like when she goes on walks in the neighborhood, 0:03:16.410 --> 0:03:19.330 she has a really hard time getting back. So she 0:03:19.490 --> 0:03:22.170 was telling me that the way she gets around is 0:03:22.210 --> 0:03:27.010 basically by just stumbling on what she calls landmarks. 0:03:27.370 --> 0:03:30.730 There's some bone on the street that's kind of near 0:03:30.770 --> 0:03:33.090 your street, like near the gutter, And a lot of 0:03:33.130 --> 0:03:35.330 times I'm walking and the bone is nearby, and then 0:03:35.370 --> 0:03:36.730 your house is really close by. 0:03:36.810 --> 0:03:39.250 Wait wait wait wait wait, like an animal boat. 0:03:39.370 --> 0:03:40.810 Yeah, Like I don't know if there's like part of 0:03:40.810 --> 0:03:42.930 a chicken bone or like even something a dog was 0:03:43.010 --> 0:03:45.810 chewing on. But it's been like really helpful because there's 0:03:45.810 --> 0:03:47.930 been a few times that I'm kind of like a 0:03:47.970 --> 0:03:50.170 bit lost and then I look down and there's the bone, 0:03:50.170 --> 0:03:50.690 and it's like. 0:03:50.690 --> 0:03:53.570 Oh good, wait, what's gonna happen? When someone cleans up 0:03:53.610 --> 0:03:54.730 that chicken bone. 0:03:55.450 --> 0:03:57.850 I know, I was like that bone could be gone 0:03:57.930 --> 0:03:58.770 like any day. 0:03:59.210 --> 0:04:02.530 The bone has been very reliable for like three, three 0:04:02.610 --> 0:04:04.090 or four weeks since I've been here. 0:04:07.210 --> 0:04:11.170 Our house, which for me is feeling like smaller and 0:04:11.250 --> 0:04:17.050 smaller every day. For her, it's like completely the opposite 0:04:17.330 --> 0:04:19.970 my experience of walking and moving around in spaces in 0:04:20.010 --> 0:04:20.289 the world. 0:04:20.370 --> 0:04:23.330 I do think everything feels really really huge to me 0:04:23.450 --> 0:04:28.690 all the time, like unfathomably, like infinitely just mysterious and 0:04:28.849 --> 0:04:32.409 kind of unknowable. And so I think I might be 0:04:32.489 --> 0:04:34.889 a bit lucky and that I may not be feeling 0:04:34.969 --> 0:04:37.890 that clausterphobia that a lot of people are feeling right 0:04:37.929 --> 0:04:39.330 now in quarantine. 0:04:40.210 --> 0:04:44.130 I just am fascinated by how she experiences the world, 0:04:44.969 --> 0:04:48.689 and I've actually been doing these sort of like experiments 0:04:48.729 --> 0:04:52.609 with her where I make her close her eyes and 0:04:52.770 --> 0:04:55.489 I ask her to point to things that are in 0:04:55.529 --> 0:04:58.130 the room, like the TV or the couch or the 0:04:58.210 --> 0:05:01.609 kitchen table or whatever, and then I have her open 0:05:01.650 --> 0:05:02.170 her eyes. 0:05:02.489 --> 0:05:05.489 Wait, oh my god, Wait, was all of that wrong, 0:05:06.049 --> 0:05:08.010 because I thought the whole time that I was in 0:05:08.049 --> 0:05:10.489 a totally different part of the house. Did you do 0:05:10.529 --> 0:05:12.529 that on purpose or no, no, no, no, no, you 0:05:12.529 --> 0:05:15.809 weren't trying to trick me. No, I was totally shocked 0:05:15.849 --> 0:05:16.769 to open my eyes. 0:05:17.330 --> 0:05:24.770 And I am not sharing my home with a sister 0:05:24.849 --> 0:05:29.409 in law to be. But I did talk to my 0:05:29.409 --> 0:05:32.449 little sister this week. Oh so she's much younger than me. 0:05:32.529 --> 0:05:35.930 She's a senior in high school right now. Her name's Jeffy, 0:05:36.810 --> 0:05:39.369 And I also feeling she like has it together in 0:05:39.409 --> 0:05:41.529 a way that I did not in high school. Like 0:05:41.570 --> 0:05:43.249 if I look at pictures of her and her friends, 0:05:43.289 --> 0:05:47.010 I'm like, wow, they look so polished. So normally she'd 0:05:47.049 --> 0:05:49.250 be graduating in a couple of weeks because she's a senior, 0:05:50.010 --> 0:05:53.730 but obviously they're not having a real graduation right this 0:05:53.770 --> 0:05:58.609 week she had her sort of fake graduation. What they're 0:05:58.650 --> 0:06:01.210 doing is they're having all the kids come to the 0:06:01.250 --> 0:06:04.330 school over the course of three days, and they're just 0:06:04.409 --> 0:06:06.849 filming them walking across the stage. 0:06:07.210 --> 0:06:12.409 They were basically like tapeline every six feet and yeah, 0:06:12.409 --> 0:06:14.009 we basically just walked across stage. 0:06:14.409 --> 0:06:16.489 Did they like play music or anything while you were 0:06:16.489 --> 0:06:21.609 walking across the stage. Nope, Like she just walked across 0:06:21.650 --> 0:06:24.010 a silent stage in an empty room, and they were 0:06:24.010 --> 0:06:28.609 like Okay, that's your graduation. Yeah, I guess it wasn't 0:06:28.650 --> 0:06:31.130 like totally empty. It was like there were a handful 0:06:31.210 --> 0:06:33.969 of people there in this very large arena. 0:06:34.650 --> 0:06:38.450 Obviously mom and dad were there, and then they had 0:06:38.489 --> 0:06:43.489 to wear masks, and my principal was there to like 0:06:43.570 --> 0:06:46.049 kind of remind me what to do, and but my 0:06:46.130 --> 0:06:48.809 principle he stick really close to me. That was like, 0:06:48.969 --> 0:06:52.729 really weird, the closest I've been to another person besides 0:06:52.770 --> 0:06:54.369 my family in a long time. 0:06:54.729 --> 0:06:57.089 And did it feel like a graduation? 0:06:57.969 --> 0:06:58.690 Uh? 0:06:59.929 --> 0:07:03.650 It was pretty as I claimactic none of this really 0:07:03.690 --> 0:07:07.290 feels real. So yeah, I mean I feel like you 0:07:07.409 --> 0:07:10.330 normally get those feelings anyway of like, oh, it doesn't 0:07:10.369 --> 0:07:13.809 really feel over, but like it really doesn't feel over. 0:07:14.170 --> 0:07:18.010 Yeah, yeah, I assume you're not having a prom. 0:07:19.050 --> 0:07:21.130 No, that was one of the first things we canceled. 0:07:21.250 --> 0:07:22.369 Yeah, I don't know. 0:07:22.410 --> 0:07:24.330 I feel kind of grateful that I hadn't already bought 0:07:24.330 --> 0:07:29.290 my dress. Little things right, Dad joking and was. 0:07:29.250 --> 0:07:30.650 Like, well, at least you don't have a date. 0:07:32.170 --> 0:07:34.970 Yeah, you're right, No way, I'm getting a boyfriend in 0:07:35.010 --> 0:07:35.689 high school now. 0:07:36.330 --> 0:07:38.690 Well I didn't either, so I don't know if that's 0:07:38.810 --> 0:07:39.730 that any comfort. 0:07:40.450 --> 0:07:43.730 I didn't have super high over. 0:07:51.890 --> 0:07:53.569 Jonathan, how are you doing? 0:07:54.050 --> 0:07:58.009 You know I'm doing okay. I I had a milestone 0:07:58.010 --> 0:08:02.530 this weekend. My three year old Aggie showed an interest 0:08:02.770 --> 0:08:04.650 in what I do for a living for the very 0:08:04.730 --> 0:08:07.889 first time. So I invited him into my home studio 0:08:08.330 --> 0:08:12.290 so he could so you could feel the magic. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:12.410 --> 0:08:14.930 you hear yourself. You could see how you're recording. When 0:08:14.929 --> 0:08:17.330 you see those little lines. When you talk loud, it 0:08:17.330 --> 0:08:21.570 goes up up. Okay, that's a little loud. Mostly what 0:08:21.610 --> 0:08:25.770 we did was just fight over the microphone. I hold it. 0:08:26.010 --> 0:08:26.130 Let. 0:08:31.090 --> 0:08:35.689 We ended up calling up his grandmother to interview her. Hi, Hi, 0:08:37.250 --> 0:08:41.770 whenne viewing you. That makes me feel very important. Left 0:08:41.890 --> 0:08:43.490 new It's hard. 0:08:43.290 --> 0:08:45.650 To think of new things when you can't leave your house. 0:08:47.090 --> 0:08:49.490 I come out of more of a I guess public 0:08:49.610 --> 0:08:55.290 radio tradition, but Aggie seems to adhere more to commercial 0:08:55.690 --> 0:09:02.850 morning zoo, aesthetic knack knack. Who's there? Dung dung? 0:09:02.970 --> 0:09:15.010 Who dung doggy dung. I'm healthy, Papa, you are? 0:09:15.210 --> 0:09:17.050 I see you have a microphone? 0:09:17.490 --> 0:09:18.930 And are you in his studio? 0:09:19.330 --> 0:09:19.370 No? 0:09:19.530 --> 0:09:20.370 I mean the. 0:09:20.490 --> 0:09:25.410 Classic, Well, the closet is my studio. My fear. Now 0:09:25.570 --> 0:09:29.370 is that hearing his old man say in that pleading 0:09:29.410 --> 0:09:33.170 tone of voice that the closet is my studio might 0:09:33.210 --> 0:09:38.890 be Augie's very first memory. Anyway, you know what time 0:09:38.930 --> 0:09:39.850 it is? Twelve? 0:09:40.010 --> 0:09:40.770 Ad time? 0:09:41.490 --> 0:09:42.610 Did you say bedtime? 0:09:42.930 --> 0:09:45.490 I said add time, but I wish it were bedtime. 0:09:45.610 --> 0:09:48.450 Wrong again, It's AD time, So I was right. You 0:09:48.490 --> 0:09:49.410 know why they call them. 0:09:49.290 --> 0:09:52.570 Ads because they add a value tier, because they. 0:09:52.450 --> 0:09:55.010 Add so much to your life. And when we get back, 0:09:55.290 --> 0:10:07.490 you're not going to believe who I talk to next? 0:10:09.370 --> 0:10:13.530 Heavyweight Gang. Yeah, you remember my old friend James. He's 0:10:13.570 --> 0:10:17.050 a successful TV writer living in Toronto. In season one, 0:10:17.130 --> 0:10:20.570 we snuck onto a golf course to scatter his dad's ashes. 0:10:21.850 --> 0:10:26.010 So one night recently, James began to feel really ill 0:10:26.850 --> 0:10:31.050 with what he's now pretty sure was COVID scary, so 0:10:31.250 --> 0:10:33.650 his wife decided to steal them off in their bedroom, 0:10:33.810 --> 0:10:37.890 away from their two kids. And James is feeling much 0:10:37.890 --> 0:10:40.690 better now, but he's still in isolation. So I gave 0:10:40.770 --> 0:10:43.450 him a call to see how he's doing, and he 0:10:43.650 --> 0:10:47.050 told me about the weird way that the sickness first 0:10:47.090 --> 0:10:47.450 came on. 0:10:48.130 --> 0:10:51.090 I was doing a chickstarw puzzle. It's a woodstock puzzle, 0:10:51.290 --> 0:10:53.530 and you'd think it's all like hifty, peaceful, it's going 0:10:53.610 --> 0:10:56.970 to be easy. No, it was a nightmare of this puzzle. 0:10:57.050 --> 0:10:59.290 How many pieces? How many pieces on thousand? 0:10:59.850 --> 0:11:02.690 Well, I'm no punk, I'm no punk. Anything less than 0:11:02.690 --> 0:11:05.610 a thousand that's a kid puzzle. Anyways, it's a mad, 0:11:05.690 --> 0:11:08.530 challenging puzzle, and it was really getting on my nerves. 0:11:09.370 --> 0:11:11.250 He was pissing me off. I couldn't get to sleep 0:11:11.290 --> 0:11:13.850 because it started. I was getting angry and I felt sick, 0:11:15.370 --> 0:11:16.250 and I thought. 0:11:17.450 --> 0:11:19.290 You thought you were just like sick with anger about 0:11:19.290 --> 0:11:21.170 the puzzle for real? 0:11:21.410 --> 0:11:23.850 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I was like starting to 0:11:23.850 --> 0:11:26.290 get you know, like, oh my stomach sick and I'm 0:11:26.330 --> 0:11:27.490 mad at this goddamn puzzle. 0:11:27.530 --> 0:11:29.929 But at a certain point, did you realize, you know, actually, 0:11:30.010 --> 0:11:32.530 it's not normal to be getting this upset and this 0:11:32.690 --> 0:11:33.890 sick over a puzzle. 0:11:34.250 --> 0:11:36.370 Eventually, about four five in the morning, I got so 0:11:36.610 --> 0:11:41.090 cold and I started to shake, and I went, oh, 0:11:41.170 --> 0:11:43.650 I'm sick, that's what this is. 0:11:43.930 --> 0:11:44.770 Yeah. 0:11:44.850 --> 0:11:48.410 I was moaning on every outpress like this. It was 0:11:48.450 --> 0:11:54.090 like for hours. I was going One night, as I'm 0:11:54.090 --> 0:11:56.970 going I heard people outside being like, what is that 0:11:57.330 --> 0:12:00.490 like I was causing a disturbance in the neighborhood. It 0:12:00.530 --> 0:12:03.330 was like the Extra Sister or something. You know, a migraine. 0:12:03.370 --> 0:12:04.250 You're in a migraine. 0:12:04.370 --> 0:12:07.130 No, but I mean I've heard I've read about them. 0:12:07.530 --> 0:12:10.370 Yeah, me too. So it's like I had a migraine 0:12:10.690 --> 0:12:13.930 in my body. It's like my legs were a migraine. 0:12:14.050 --> 0:12:17.890 Everything hurts. And I said something like I want to die. 0:12:17.970 --> 0:12:20.250 I want to die, you know. Oh, it's just I did. 0:12:20.410 --> 0:12:22.890 I really wanted to die for a good forty eight hours. 0:12:23.370 --> 0:12:23.850 Kill me. 0:12:24.650 --> 0:12:26.690 So the weirdest thing was that, in spite of how 0:12:26.730 --> 0:12:29.130 sick he was and how he felt like he was 0:12:29.250 --> 0:12:31.650 looking at his own mortality, we spent most of the 0:12:31.690 --> 0:12:36.130 conversation talking about this movie, this seventies disaster film that 0:12:36.170 --> 0:12:39.770 he'd seen as a kid and had decided to rewatch 0:12:40.250 --> 0:12:43.970 while he was recovering in Quarantine. And the movie is 0:12:44.770 --> 0:12:49.370 straight strangely timely because it's about a pandemic and it's 0:12:49.370 --> 0:12:50.890 called the Cassandra Crossing. 0:12:51.290 --> 0:12:54.890 It is one of the worst movies ever made. It's terrible. 0:12:55.010 --> 0:12:56.570 It's like eating bad ice cream. 0:12:56.650 --> 0:12:58.930 So wait to what happens. So it's it's Santa. 0:12:58.610 --> 0:13:02.410 Crossing takes place on a very sexy, glamorous train from 0:13:02.450 --> 0:13:06.650 Geneva to Rembra and it's filled the stars. And what's 0:13:06.730 --> 0:13:10.730 the twist that makes a disaster movie? A terrorist infected 0:13:10.770 --> 0:13:14.090 with the bubonic plague gets on the train and he's 0:13:14.090 --> 0:13:17.450 going to get everybody sick and they're going to die. 0:13:17.930 --> 0:13:21.890 And the government represent on of Burt Lancaster decides they 0:13:22.090 --> 0:13:25.890 just going to kill everybody. Let's just kill them, so 0:13:26.370 --> 0:13:31.210 they stop the train at Nuremberg. At Nuremberg, no connotations there, 0:13:31.610 --> 0:13:34.730 and they board it up with metal. The Cassandra Crossing 0:13:34.930 --> 0:13:37.770 of the title is they're going to divert the train 0:13:38.210 --> 0:13:42.450 over a crossing an elevated bridge, okay, massive, huge bridge 0:13:42.690 --> 0:13:47.130 over a canyon, knowing that the bridge cannot sustain this 0:13:47.250 --> 0:13:50.450 train and they will all plummet to their death. And 0:13:50.890 --> 0:13:54.050 they deliberately pump the train full of pure oxygen, which 0:13:54.130 --> 0:13:58.170 is flammable, knowing that when the train crashes, it's going 0:13:58.250 --> 0:14:02.130 to blow up. There's O. J. Simpson. He's playing a priest, 0:14:02.410 --> 0:14:06.170 but he's actually an agent from Interpol who's tracking Martin Sheen, 0:14:06.250 --> 0:14:09.010 the drug dealer. Turns out Martin Sheen's a heroin at 0:14:09.290 --> 0:14:13.490 and he goes bananas because he needs Heroin right, grabs 0:14:13.490 --> 0:14:16.890 a machine gun and starts shooting people. He starts shooting 0:14:16.890 --> 0:14:20.010 people and then because he's like, I need this stuff. 0:14:19.970 --> 0:14:20.570 So I get this. 0:14:20.610 --> 0:14:22.490 You're gonna love this. There is always a moment like 0:14:22.530 --> 0:14:26.890 this in all seventies movies where the British actor would act. 0:14:27.450 --> 0:14:30.330 So this is Richard Harris, this moment to act and 0:14:30.370 --> 0:14:32.130 he's like, so what will you do? 0:14:32.210 --> 0:14:32.410 Then? 0:14:32.850 --> 0:14:35.130 Will you shoot everyone on the train? 0:14:35.610 --> 0:14:37.170 So stop start with me? 0:14:37.610 --> 0:14:40.530 Shoot me? And Barnishine's like, oh, yeah, you're right, that's bad. 0:14:40.570 --> 0:14:44.610 I shouldn't do that. Before he was a Heroin Addict 0:14:44.650 --> 0:14:49.050 slash Dealer, he was a champion mountain climber in Europe. 0:14:49.290 --> 0:14:51.970 He borrows some kids tennis shoes and he goes out, 0:14:52.250 --> 0:14:54.570 this is a terrible movie. So the stunt double is like, 0:14:54.650 --> 0:14:58.050 I don't know, eight feet tall and it's obviously not Martchine, 0:14:58.090 --> 0:14:59.010 but whatever do you know? 0:14:59.130 --> 0:15:01.850 As you're telling that, like it sounds as though like 0:15:02.050 --> 0:15:03.690 hadn't you said you saw this movie as a kid, 0:15:03.690 --> 0:15:06.090 I would think like was this a fever dream? 0:15:06.290 --> 0:15:08.410 It's very real. You can probably find it in the 0:15:08.450 --> 0:15:12.890 delete bin event gas station. As Susan Sontag said, the 0:15:12.930 --> 0:15:16.970 disaster movie gives the audience the opportunity to live through 0:15:16.970 --> 0:15:17.610 their own death. 0:15:17.770 --> 0:15:19.530 Do you think that's why you sought out this movie 0:15:19.570 --> 0:15:20.170 at this moment? 0:15:20.530 --> 0:15:20.770 Hell? 0:15:20.930 --> 0:15:24.530 Yeah, absolutely, because I thought I was I don't mean 0:15:24.570 --> 0:15:26.450 to say I thought I was dying in a history onic, 0:15:26.570 --> 0:15:29.210 you know, sort of like melodramatic way. I was like, 0:15:29.250 --> 0:15:31.530 I'm dying. I'm dying, and part of me wanted to 0:15:31.570 --> 0:15:33.370 die because I didn't want to keep going through what 0:15:33.410 --> 0:15:35.250 I was wanting through. It sounds stupid, but that's what 0:15:35.290 --> 0:15:38.610 I thought as I was coming out of it, surely 0:15:38.610 --> 0:15:41.690 before I decided to watch Concentral Crossing again and realizing, 0:15:41.730 --> 0:15:44.170 oh no, okay, you're not only are you not going 0:15:44.250 --> 0:15:46.570 to die, but it was really stupid to want to die. 0:15:46.610 --> 0:15:48.490 That was just the stupidest thing you've ever thought of. 0:15:48.610 --> 0:15:53.290 Because your kids are there, and yeah they're annoying, but 0:15:53.410 --> 0:15:57.450 they're awesome, and I have things to write, and I 0:15:57.490 --> 0:15:59.890 really did have this sense of like, oh my god, 0:16:00.410 --> 0:16:03.250 it's not over for me and I've got shit to do. 0:16:03.810 --> 0:16:06.850 I'm actually happier than I've did in a really long time. 0:16:07.490 --> 0:16:10.130 And I'm talking like you and years and years, I 0:16:10.210 --> 0:16:13.410 swear to god, I there's a lateness. I just feel 0:16:13.490 --> 0:16:17.650 light in a way that I haven't never Maybe. 0:16:18.530 --> 0:16:20.930 How long have you been in there now? Like a 0:16:20.970 --> 0:16:21.330 week and a. 0:16:21.290 --> 0:16:23.210 Half now, So I still got more time in here, 0:16:23.530 --> 0:16:26.570 got my computer, I got my Chickstop puzzle, of course 0:16:26.610 --> 0:16:29.410 I did. Sully did bring up my my Goddawn? Which 0:16:29.450 --> 0:16:30.050 star puzzle? 0:16:30.210 --> 0:16:30.530 Did you? 0:16:30.570 --> 0:16:30.730 Did? 0:16:30.730 --> 0:16:31.930 You continue working on it. 0:16:33.010 --> 0:16:36.050 As soon as I was able. As soon as I 0:16:36.090 --> 0:16:38.490 was able, I was back at. 0:16:38.210 --> 0:16:53.730 That shit Wow. A listener to the show, Cheyenne, wrote 0:16:53.770 --> 0:16:57.610 in about her boyfriend Torstein, who she's in a long 0:16:57.650 --> 0:17:02.130 distance relationship with, and Torstein is having a hard time. 0:17:02.930 --> 0:17:07.649 He's stuck at home, quarantining with a large family in 0:17:07.730 --> 0:17:11.930 a crowded house TV. You can relate, probably. 0:17:11.570 --> 0:17:12.929 Yeah, totally, I get it. 0:17:13.169 --> 0:17:15.729 Yeah. And so he was supposed to go off to 0:17:15.850 --> 0:17:19.609 university this fall, which he was very excited about. But 0:17:19.730 --> 0:17:22.769 now all the classes are going to be online. 0:17:23.330 --> 0:17:23.770 Yeah. 0:17:23.850 --> 0:17:26.729 It feels like similarly like with my sister, just like 0:17:26.810 --> 0:17:30.050 a lot of the milestones that people would normally be 0:17:30.169 --> 0:17:33.129 hitting right now they kind of aren't getting to have. 0:17:33.649 --> 0:17:37.729 Yeah, so's he's sad about that, And Chyenne says that 0:17:37.770 --> 0:17:39.689 he's a big fan of the show, and she asked 0:17:39.770 --> 0:17:42.409 if the three of us could surprise him with a 0:17:42.850 --> 0:17:43.330 phone call. 0:17:44.090 --> 0:17:44.929 So fun. 0:17:45.010 --> 0:17:48.929 Yeah, so let's let's do it. Let's call Chyenne first. Okay, 0:17:49.290 --> 0:17:52.449 here we go. Get ready to bring the sunshine, Kayley, 0:17:52.770 --> 0:17:55.330 Oh god, I want to hear a smile in your voice. 0:17:55.770 --> 0:17:57.689 I'm smiling now, can you hear it? 0:17:57.689 --> 0:17:58.850 It sounds like it's painting you. 0:18:00.530 --> 0:18:02.609 It's sort of like that model thing of smiling, just 0:18:02.649 --> 0:18:04.489 with your eyes. Just smile with your voice. 0:18:04.570 --> 0:18:07.369 It's called smiices. And this is called mooie. 0:18:07.850 --> 0:18:08.609 It's moisy. 0:18:09.129 --> 0:18:09.330 Got it? 0:18:09.409 --> 0:18:14.609 You got a that's such a gross word. All right, 0:18:14.649 --> 0:18:24.530 here we go. Hello, Seyenne. Hi, Hello, h Cheyenne. You'll 0:18:24.570 --> 0:18:26.009 conference Torstein in. 0:18:27.010 --> 0:18:29.490 Okay, okay, that was so great. 0:18:33.929 --> 0:18:41.049 Hello, Hello, Hello, Hi tour Stein. Yeah, Hi, it's Jonathan Goldstein. 0:18:42.369 --> 0:18:43.570 Oh wow, Hi. 0:18:43.889 --> 0:18:44.090 Hi. 0:18:46.090 --> 0:18:49.369 You know your very nice girlfriend who seems to love 0:18:49.409 --> 0:18:50.129 you very much. 0:18:50.369 --> 0:18:50.489 Uh. 0:18:50.850 --> 0:18:53.929 She wrote into the show and wanted us to say. 0:18:53.850 --> 0:18:57.769 Hi, thank you. Well, I'm kind of in shockering now. 0:18:58.609 --> 0:19:01.170 Yenne had said that you'd been feeling a little down 0:19:01.209 --> 0:19:02.290 in the midst of everything. 0:19:03.369 --> 0:19:07.329 Yeah, my school just got canceled for the rest of 0:19:07.369 --> 0:19:09.369 the year. Not like canceled, but like I'm going to 0:19:09.369 --> 0:19:11.369 be able to attend it. Yeah, so I was kind 0:19:11.369 --> 0:19:11.809 of bummed. 0:19:11.850 --> 0:19:14.450 But yeah, how old are you? 0:19:15.090 --> 0:19:17.369 I am twenty How. 0:19:17.250 --> 0:19:19.129 Old are you? Makes it sound like you're like attending 0:19:19.129 --> 0:19:20.729 a children's birthday party. 0:19:21.810 --> 0:19:24.009 Well, no, I want to say. I just want to 0:19:24.010 --> 0:19:25.250 tell you. I mean, I don't know if this takes 0:19:25.290 --> 0:19:28.969 the pressure off, but truly nothing matters in like at 0:19:29.090 --> 0:19:33.289 least until twenty five. That does help. Yeah, you're not 0:19:33.290 --> 0:19:35.649 going to remember any of the things you're learning now anyhow. 0:19:36.770 --> 0:19:38.889 I mean I don't know that I totally subscribe to 0:19:38.929 --> 0:19:43.409 the whole nothing you will hearn ever, mean anything, I'm 0:19:43.449 --> 0:19:44.649 just trying to inspire. 0:19:45.169 --> 0:19:47.809 It's not necessarily that like attending classes the shame as 0:19:47.850 --> 0:19:52.129 much as like, there's like eleven people in my house 0:19:52.209 --> 0:19:55.369 right now. You know, I was supposed to move out 0:19:55.409 --> 0:20:01.129 and go to school, but because of the coronavirus and 0:20:01.169 --> 0:20:04.449 having to stay at home for another semester, and I love, 0:20:04.970 --> 0:20:07.129 I love my home, but you know, I want to 0:20:07.169 --> 0:20:09.609 move out and live my own life. 0:20:09.970 --> 0:20:11.490 Have you never been out on your own? 0:20:12.129 --> 0:20:13.570 Not Like I haven't lived on my own. 0:20:13.929 --> 0:20:15.689 So that was something that you were excited about. 0:20:17.050 --> 0:20:22.970 Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, I have eight older siblings, and I 0:20:23.050 --> 0:20:27.369 grew up in a room with my three older brothers. 0:20:27.609 --> 0:20:30.009 Whenever one moved out, I would move up to a 0:20:30.010 --> 0:20:34.769 different bed. You know, there's the nicer beds in my 0:20:34.889 --> 0:20:42.689 own So I think that individuality is something that I 0:20:42.730 --> 0:20:47.649 decently desired, and it'll happen, but it just feels like 0:20:48.369 --> 0:20:50.250 it got postponed a little bit more. 0:20:51.290 --> 0:20:53.490 But I think you will probably end up looking back 0:20:53.530 --> 0:20:56.129 on this time with all eleven of you living in 0:20:56.209 --> 0:21:00.369 the house as an incredibly like a kind of moment 0:21:00.409 --> 0:21:03.209 of grace almost. You know, it's going to take on 0:21:03.250 --> 0:21:05.970 a certain kind of sweetness. Right. It might be hard 0:21:05.970 --> 0:21:08.969 to see now, but I. 0:21:09.689 --> 0:21:12.369 Think I do see it to some degree. I'm never 0:21:12.409 --> 0:21:15.810 gonna like have another chance to live with the three 0:21:15.810 --> 0:21:19.209 siblings that are home right now, and these is the 0:21:19.330 --> 0:21:22.730 nephews that are living at the house right now. There's 0:21:22.889 --> 0:21:30.129 joy in playing games with him and talking to them and. 0:21:31.530 --> 0:21:35.169