1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: It is a zombie apocalypse on my show, and the 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: question is will you survive? Hey, guys, welcome to I've 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: never said this before with me, Tommy di Dario, I 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: am so psyched to have the brilliant Lauren Cohan on 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: my show today, who you know and you love. From 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: starring in one of the most watched drama series in 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: the history of television, The Walking Dead, Lauren now stars 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: in the spinoff series The Walking Dead Dead City, which 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: season two is out right now, and Lauren continues to 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: kill it playing the strong, resilient and very layered character 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: of Maggie Green. It is always so special to talk 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: to an artist who has lived with the character for 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: over a decade, and today you are getting so many 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: fresh and new insights into her time throughout this franchise, 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: while also learning a little bit more about someone who 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: you have been watching create one of the most bad 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: ass characters in all of television. So let's see if 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: we can get Lauren to say something that she has 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: never said before. Lauren, how are you, my friend? It's 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: so good to see you. 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: You too, Tommy, how you doing. 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: I am fantastic. I am so excited for everything going 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: on in your world, and I have to tell you 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I am based in New York City. So a few 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I was walking around these streets and like 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: zombies were popping up all over the place, and I 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: was like, what in the world is going on? And 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: then I find out it's for season two of your show. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that funny? When AMC said they were just 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: basically laid out the marketing plan that we were going 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: to have this year, We're like, Wow, this is the 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: biggest most elaborate campaign we've had for not just I 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: mean thank for the show and especially for Dead City, 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: but it's one of the biggest campaigns. I think we've 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: the AMCs that we're done, and we were like, wow, 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: every stroke was like what walkers are everywhere? The cover 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: of the New York Post taking over a restants, Jeff 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: and I throwing the pitch at City. It was a great, 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: very very New York. It was pretty cool. 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing. It was really well done. And 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: I imagine for you that's kind of a pinch me moment, right. 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I saw you at the Empire State Building at City Field, 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: and those are such iconic things to get to do, 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: all because you guys are leading your own spinoff series. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: How cool is that? 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was really it was epic. I have to 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: say going to City Field, I was so oh walking 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: onto that field. I'm in a different field, but I 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: walked out there and I thought, God, I wonder what 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: it's like to be up at bat. The crowd is watching, 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: you have to zone it all out. It just put 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: me in the mindset of these athletes, and I was like, 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: it was a very humbling cool moment. Yeah, m pire 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: s building a different humbling cool moment. Scary, Oh my gosh, 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: here your stomach flips. It was, But it was all 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: the celebration of like the wonder of New York and 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: the magic of New York. 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to tie that all you know, into the 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: promo of the show is just so great. It was 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: such a genius idea. And again it's something that everybody 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: should be so proud of. This character. Maggie means so 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: much to so many people. You've been playing her for 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: well over a decade. Now, what keeps you coming back 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: for more? 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Continuing to find real moments and undearth things that the 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: show has always been really good at. That this whole 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: kind of universe at human moments, relatable moments in a 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: heightened atmosphere. And then when we started the new show, 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: there were fewer of us, you know, as Jeff and I, 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: and then we had a few supporting costs, which all 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: meant that it was like a much a lot more 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: time on each story. And I think that what it's 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: given us is a deeper psychological dive, so, you know, 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: for a detailed exploration of Maggie Meegue and a detailed 75 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: exploration of a mother and son, those things. Each season, 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: something comes up like that that is like, Okay, yeah, 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: it's a character, you know, but do you know her? 78 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: This is to myself, you know, but do I know 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: her like this? Do I do I know her in 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: this situation? And then I get to unfold and research 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: all those that whole lane and you just you just 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: keep going in a relationship this long with a character, 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: as well as a relationship this long for our audience 84 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: with our show, They're all just opportunities to go deeper. 85 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: It's like a you know, it's like a marriage, it's 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: like a long friendship. It's like an area of study 87 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: that you'll never be done with. 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: And so interesting too, because I think at least in 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, So much of what we enjoy as viewers 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: is we get to see these characters in these really 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of like gray areas. You know, everything feels like 92 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: it's in the name of survival, And can you really 93 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: judge someone for what they do in those circumstances. Maybe yes, 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: maybe no, But I imagine as an artist that's a 95 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: really interesting thing for you to dive into. 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just making assessments of how we react and 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: how we behave I mean, that is always alive and 98 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: in me in the show too, because I have to 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: wind myself back to Maggie's experiences and understand trauma and 100 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: understand the sort of the toolbox that they're working with. 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: And I think what I love about this season is 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: saying we've operated this way and we've made decisions from 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: this place, and something really, really a big curve ball 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: comes in this year where it's like your tools don't 105 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: work anymore, you know, And this is like this is 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: all within the context of how she and Need and 107 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: interact and how Herschel and she interact. But it's like, 108 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: after all this time, the thing that's kept you alive, 109 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: it's not about surviving in that way anymore. It's about surviving, 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: and that survival is going to require a whole new 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: skill set of internal of an internal relationship that was 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: very abstract, but. 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I get what you mean. I mean it's emotionally it's 114 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: such a journey that you take us all on. And 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: that's what's so interesting about a character that has been 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: around for a while now and your character. She's been 117 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a part of some of the biggest storylines in the 118 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: franchise and continues to be in the spin off series. 119 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Is there something you look back on and you're like, man, 120 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: that was a hard one, Like that was a hard 121 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: day of work for me, and I'm even surprised that 122 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: I got through it. 123 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. I think it's largely just 124 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: like letting it go and not letting it go like 125 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: the process of it, but like looking back and saying, oh, 126 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: there's a million ways that I could have done this 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: as an actor or whatever. And so the battle with 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: yourself of saying, like, Okay, cool, this is what we did. 129 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: Leave it on the downs floor. And then the physically 130 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: hardest and emotionally hardest moments that were in the show 131 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: were We're definitely those days where you know, the episode 132 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: that we all know about. We shot that for a 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: long time, and then we had a summer off and 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: we had to come back and pick up where we 135 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: left off. And you just don't want to. You just 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: don't want to go there. You don't want to do it. 137 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: But then this this weird little surrender and you're all 138 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: doing it together, and you just kind of like jump 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: in the pit, and you're doing everybody a disservice by 140 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: not letting it, letting it happen. 141 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I get wanting to probably protect yourself 142 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: in a weird way. I mean, it's obviously you're showing 143 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: up and you have a job to do, but yeah, 144 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: I allow yourself to have to go to some of 145 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: those darker moments or relive trauma or anything like that. 146 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: I imagine that can be quite a lot at the 147 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: end of a long day. 148 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you just you want like a different context. 149 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: It's like you spend time and you don't want to 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: go too far away from any of it because it 151 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: makes your job harder to shift back into it. But 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: you also can't really wrench yourself to like a popcorn 153 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: rom com chill out mode, like your brain, you know, 154 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: when you get that sort of like tired wired. There's 155 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: a sense of that that sustains for the months of 156 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: filming that I know many actors in whatever zone they 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: have to inhabit, can attest to. And but that's why, 158 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: that's why we get to make indelible things and we 159 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: all get to be so connected through them because we're 160 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: like they're impacting us. 161 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: And they're impacting the audiences. I mean, these moments and 162 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: these scenes are impacting the audiences, as you know. I'm 163 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: sure you've seen right and heard from many fans. You know, 164 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: when your character lost her partner or lost Glenn, it 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: was like it was like the world ended for so 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: many people. Did you feel that too? 167 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: I did, and I think and that's kind of like 168 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: what I mean is it's like we are all in 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: the conversation together, you know, our audience and us, and 170 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: the fact that you and I can talk about it 171 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: as like a moment we all remember, you know what 172 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean, And I feel I get it. I mean, 173 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: I just I get it. I meet people all the 174 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: time that are like they remember that moment. And it 175 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: was also at a time when TV was like we 176 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: were all watching one thing, you know, and it was 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: part of a there was less competition for our attention 178 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: just in terms of like all the things to watch, 179 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: and I feel, I feel really grateful that I was 180 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: part of a show that was meaningful to that many 181 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: people at a time when things were meaningful to that 182 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: many people because there were fewer things. Yeah. 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what led to this incredible spinoff series, 184 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Dead City that people are just loving and enjoying and 185 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: are so excited it's back for this amazing season. Did 186 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: you have any inclination that a spinoff was coming when 187 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: this was offered to you. 188 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean when I came back to the show in 189 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: season at the end of season ten, I signed for 190 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: four years. I think it was four years that I 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: signed for, And I thought that what they originally wanted 192 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: to do was they knew that Andy was lead, with 193 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: that Rick was leaving. Andy was leaving, and Jeff and 194 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: I were kind of going to take over the original show, 195 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: so we knew that our storyline would sort of like 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: narrow and magnify. But then they decided to end the 197 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: show and then create these three spinoffs. So while we 198 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: were still in the show, we knew that, and it 199 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: took away some of the grief or preparing for the 200 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: degree mid ending, you still had the goodbye to your 201 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: friends that you couldn't totally conceptualize. You know, we lost 202 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: people throughout the course of the show, always in surprising ways, 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: that a major character would get killed off, and that 204 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: was it was. We all felt it so much. But 205 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: then the group loss of the show ending was sort 206 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: of circumvented by Jeff and I knowing, Okay, well, don't 207 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: get to we got this thing. They got to gear up, 208 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: and it almost like, yeah, it was weird. You were 209 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: saying goodbye to something, but busy getting ready for this 210 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: other thing. So so it was it was exciting to 211 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: know that there was an appetite for it and that 212 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: the network wanted to do it, and there were many 213 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: iterations of how it could have gone. They talked about 214 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: doing something with Maggie and with home the whole new 215 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: group of people. They talked about doing something with Meagan's 216 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: character and some whole group of people, and then they 217 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: talked about the iteration of Maggie and Megan, and then 218 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: talk to our show runner Eli Journet, and his ideas 219 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: for the show were very exciting to them. So that 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: was the direction that we went in and so I 221 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: was somewhat prepared for it, but it doesn't make it 222 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: any less like exciting and novel that it's actually happening, 223 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: and they were going to move to New York and 224 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: we're going to tell this story in any way, there's 225 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: going to be a bit of a time jump and 226 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: you'll see and then tonally that we were going to 227 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: do something different. So you were like, wow, what what 228 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: I feel like? You know, like we think we know 229 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 2: these characters, and now it's going to be a new context, 230 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, like bring it, let me open that book. 231 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: I want to read it. 232 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: And of course you and Jeffrey Dean Morgan, you guys 233 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: together are flawless. I mean, people love watching the two 234 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: of you and all the adventures you go on. What's 235 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: been the most surprising thing about getting to know him 236 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: better and working with him? 237 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: I mean, the most surprising thing that we always laugh 238 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: about is like the uniqueness of putting these two not rivals, 239 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: but these two enemies in a show together. You don't 240 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen very often in terms of the storyline, 241 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: and then it obviously couldn't be more different for us 242 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: in real life. It's just it's fun. Jeffrey and I 243 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: had worked together years before Working Dead. I was on 244 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: Working Dead already, I think for a season or so, 245 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: and we worked together on Batman Versus Superman, which was 246 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: Zack Snyder's film, and jeff was so intrigued by the 247 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: Working Dead and was asking Pepperingman with loads of questions 248 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: about it. And then lo and behold, you know, a 249 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: few years later we're working together on this show. And 250 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: then we had both been on Supernatural, so we had 251 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: kind of had all these like crossed possible paths and whatnot. 252 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: But Jeffrey's just like he's just been partner in crime. 253 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: It's really fun to go there, and he brings humor 254 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: and lightness and depth and sincerity and analysis. It's just 255 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: it's great. I feel really lucky. You know, you never 256 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: know who you're gonna end up with, and I don't 257 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: think these long roads lost when you don't get along. 258 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: It's just too hard. 259 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it always makes it better when you feel like 260 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: the on screen chemistry translates to off screen, because I 261 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: do feel like as an audience member, you feel it 262 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: and you can see it. Yeah, to enjoy your co 263 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: workers in any industry, you're in as ohways a bonus. 264 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Totally and you get to I mean this season, at 265 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, we obviously Sow Maggie Nigan 266 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: were in different places and they were sort of both 267 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: both prisoners of sorts of these different groups. And then 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: we do finally get together in episode four, I think, 269 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: and and the way that they play off each other 270 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: is like it was fun for Jeff and I because 271 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: we've had this time. We're like, oh, we can't wait 272 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: till our episodes together, and it's like, ah, here we go, 273 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: you know, just like the things that happened, the bristle 274 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: that happens between between us, We're just like, this is great. 275 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: You know, as actress is what you always want. 276 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: And you get to keep doing really interesting things and 277 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: pushing yourself as an actress and as an artist, including 278 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: your directorial debut. Yeah, episode six it just aired. How 279 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: has that been for you? 280 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: It's funny, It's I you know, you prepare yourself for 281 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: a situation and then you'll always be surprised. And I 282 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: came away with it with a gratitude. I came away 283 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: having actually been able to say sit with this for 284 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: a second, just like let let yourself know that you're 285 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: here and enjoy and celebrate it. It was a hard 286 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: thing to do, and we did it, and we we 287 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: a choose something that we're all really proud of, and 288 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean the whole season as well. And then I 289 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: felt sort of awakened to lots of things that I 290 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: want to know more about, lots of things about my 291 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: own working process, both as an actor and aside and 292 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: as a direct A best way you can learn about anything, 293 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: I think, is to go put yourself in someone else's shoes. 294 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: And as a director, you're in everybody. You're standing next 295 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: to everybody's shoes at different moments in the process, and 296 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: it's so exciting. I mean, the concert of creativity on 297 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: a production is a really beautiful thing. And you get 298 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: to observe and participate in the talents in all these 299 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: different domains of production design and costume design and just 300 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: just enjoy people bringing their best and enjoy people doing 301 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: the thing that they do so well. And then you know, 302 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: in directing the episode, I just felt like I got 303 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: to sort of like be a little bit of like 304 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: a sticky glue between everybody and a little bit of 305 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: a spider web, and and I enjoyed enjoy the process. 306 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: It was very challenging at times because it was, you know, 307 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: shifting between acting and directing and being intimidated sometimes to 308 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: work with actors who I admire so much and give 309 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: them direction and not just sort of like just feel 310 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: over my head with what could I possibly offer somebody 311 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: who I had like worship. But it was really really 312 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: ready great experience. 313 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Did you always want to direct? Or did your interests 314 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: get peeked through doing The Walking Dead Over the years. 315 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: The entire like machinations that were action are so beautiful 316 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: because it's a it's a giant thing, but it's a 317 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: collection of so many small things and you only ever 318 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: have to be doing like one of those things at once. 319 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: And so as a life lesson and as a pursuit, 320 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, cool, I just how do I navigate 321 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: through this and not be overwhelmed and just be present, 322 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: be present like a million times in a million ways successively. 323 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: So when directing, when the desire to try it became 324 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: stronger for me, I tried to just go in with 325 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: that curiosity of how will this experience? Let me let 326 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: this experience show itself to me and decide if I 327 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: like it decide if I want to pursue it. But 328 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: I knew I was equipped to do a solid enough 329 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: job because I was prepared and I have respect and 330 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: appreciation for what I don't know and how much of 331 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: a team effort it is. And so I think go 332 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: into it with open arms and open eyes and an 333 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: open heart is something that I'm glad of. And it 334 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: just showed me. It just showed me possibilities and from 335 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: there I make more choices. So yeah, it was a 336 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: bit of a roundabout answer, but that's I guess what 337 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: the experience was. 338 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's so cool. It's so cool that you 339 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: can now play in this field and arena, and you know, 340 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: for a show that has meant so much to you. 341 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: You get to keep growing and expanding and learning, which 342 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: is something that hopefully many of us want to keep 343 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: doing in our lives in our careers. It's very easy, though, 344 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: to feel like you have imposter syndrome when you walk 345 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: into a situation and you don't feel like you know 346 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: everything and you're kind of maybe learning some things on 347 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: the go, or like you said, you're working with people 348 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: who you're like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm 349 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: the one kind of directing them or giving them orders 350 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: or I'm the boss in this room, So how did 351 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: you not let that get in your head and you just. 352 00:17:54,080 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: Did your jobs? Such a great question because I I 353 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: know that what people are going to do is going 354 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: to be great, and maybe we're going to say, oh cool, 355 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: you know, should we think about or what you should 356 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: think about? But what if there's this factor that is 357 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: also a play, or if we tried it this way 358 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: or something, But you're never thinking of like you're never 359 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: thinking of controlling anything like the control piece would have 360 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: been coming out of fear. And don't get me wrong, 361 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: I had to fight that need to control or direct 362 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: quote unquote, and I think that you wouldn't because I 363 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: was lucky enough to be somewhere where everybody is so good. 364 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: My only task was really to make sure that it'll 365 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: fit that episode and that moment in the story and 366 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: this point in the narrative. So that starts from the 367 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: prep time you have before the episode begins, before the 368 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: shooting begins, and so it's like, all right, we're in 369 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: the room, we're with the writers, we're saying like cool, 370 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: so same page that this is the aspect of this scene, 371 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: this is the important perspect of this episode. And then 372 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: all you do is sort of like put that, put 373 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: that away in your in your mind and your heart, 374 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: and then go to set and be free knowing that 375 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 2: you've got the same you've got a shared chacta, and 376 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: that charter is the thing that's going to guide you 377 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: through the episode. And I had very good advice. I 378 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: saw out a lot of advice, and the best advice 379 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: that I really took away was like, you're going to 380 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: be nervous. You're going to be scared the first moment 381 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: you're going to step to this side and it's okay, 382 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 2: first time you've done it. Just just know that that 383 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: feeling will happen. But secondly, don't pretend to know anything 384 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: that you don't know, and don't be afraid to ask. 385 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: And that is the best life advice I've ever had, 386 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: because you you don't get anywhere pretending that you know, 387 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't want to pretend. I'm way 388 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: more interested in the truth. Like it's it's it's hard, 389 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: and it's like uncomfortable, but asking a question and learning 390 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: something from somebody who really knows their department and they 391 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: what they want to do, and that's not hard, that's enlightening, 392 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: And that's the best thing I really took away from 393 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: the experience. 394 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible, and it puts a good appetite, you know, 395 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: in your mouth for wanting to maybe do more of 396 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: that because you did go in with such a healthy 397 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: mindset and you knew that you were there to do 398 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: a job that you were very capable of doing. But 399 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: you also did leave that room for growth. And I 400 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: think that's something that again, we all need to do 401 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: in any career. So it's so applicable to everybody, which 402 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: is really really cool. Was there ever a time over 403 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: the years that you got so maybe overwhelmed or so 404 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: worked up with the work because it is dark sometimes 405 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: and traumatic and intense that you thought, ah, man, I 406 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: don't know if I can do this anymore. 407 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot all the time, Like all the time 408 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: I think that, And all the time I think that, 409 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: Like when I do when I have like a day 410 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: where there's like even a lot of interviews, and then 411 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: I look back and I'm like, what did I That's 412 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: not I don't even even think that, Why did I 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: say that? And then I'll spin into this place of 414 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: self analysis and self hate and I beat myself up 415 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: and and then I'm like, why do I even do 416 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: this to myself? I just want I just want to 417 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: do a job where this doesn't like And then I 418 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: just think, no, you know what, like we all feel 419 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: like we need to sometimes be so much and achieve 420 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: in every way, and that is not in this job. 421 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: That is in my mind, and that is in the 422 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: mind of any of us, maybe maybe a lot of 423 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: us some at the time. And what can I do, Like, 424 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: what's my what's my best way to show up in 425 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: the world to be like, you know what, I'm a 426 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: freaking human being. Okay, was everything I ever said or 427 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: did ideal and perfect? No, And what's the best thing 428 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: I can do now is like not be lost in myself, 429 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: is like say, okay, cool, I still love you, and 430 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see where I'm needed. I'm gonna go 431 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: like connect and find the things that like bring the 432 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: cycle back around. And I don't know, it's just like 433 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to be there. I don't 434 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: I don't want to be in that stuff. And I 435 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: just like I know that to show up in life 436 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: as a parent, as a partner, as a friend, as 437 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: a colleague is like anything requires listening and vulnerability and 438 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: and and I like, I like, even when I have 439 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: like hard times with a with a job or whatever, 440 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: I like that I have to keep doing that because 441 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: I know I'm a better person when I do stay 442 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: vulnerable and stay forgiving. 443 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: M Yeah, absolutely, I think that's something important for all 444 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: of us to go through life with. It's not always easy, 445 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely an important thing to do. I imagine 446 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: with the success of The Walking Dead and now Dead 447 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: City being so for lack of a better word, exposed 448 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: and out there and having people asking questions and maybe 449 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: even this interview, like, I'm sure it's something you kind 450 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: of have to get used to and settle into a bit, right, Yeah, And. 451 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: I have hard times so with it sometimes, Like I 452 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: call my parents in the midst of a heavier press 453 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: time and I just was like, you just like lose. 454 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: You feel really prole, and you feel really exposed, and 455 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 2: you feel not enough, and then you remember that like 456 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: that's not necessarily like your experience is valid, but that's 457 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: not necessarily like nobody's analyzing you as much as you 458 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: think they are. And if they are, or they'll be 459 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: analyzing somebody else and then they won't be analyzing that 460 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: person anymore. And I just think that it's like, you 461 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: gotta let it go, you gotta slow down. The biggest 462 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: thing for me in life lately has just been like 463 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: so down, so down, and don't forget the important. When 464 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: I say the important things, I think of like don't 465 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: put too much stock in any one thing, and definitely 466 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: don't put too much stock in your work at the 467 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: expense of the other things that are important to you, 468 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, whether that's your family, or whether that's your friends, 469 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: or whether that's your creative outlets. I don't know what 470 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: it is. But when I went to when I was 471 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: on Working Dead, our producer at the time said, you know, 472 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: don't forget learned this all Like we were looking around 473 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: the set and he was like, don't forget. This all 474 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: goes away, So don't forget to build the other parts 475 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: of your life. And I'm so ambitious and I will 476 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: work so hard. And it's in the last couple of 477 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: years I've finally taken that advice to heart and thought 478 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: that the all the success doesn't it's notice it's not 479 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: as important as you think it is. 480 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: There's so many secrets and you know, concoctions to why 481 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: this show works and why it's been around, and why 482 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: they're spin offs and why you're leading it and all 483 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: of the things. But I imagine, I think I think 484 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: this is going to be around for years and years 485 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: and years and years and years. Do you think that's 486 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: the case. 487 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: I think you can tell the story for a while, 488 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: and I think I think a couple more years would 489 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: be good, and maybe I want to do more things. Yeah, 490 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: it's come back and you know, but just just step 491 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 2: away for a bit. It's it's it's somewhat difficult to 492 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: do other stuff while doing the show because you want 493 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: to rest sometimes in between. But there's like a lot 494 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: of I don't know, and sometimes that's just life stuff. 495 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: But I definitely, definitely I'm on the train team. Let's 496 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: let's go somewhere with the story that is, as long 497 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: as it can be special and real and true, then 498 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: I'd like to see it go as long as it could. 499 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And there will be a point to your 500 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: point where you'll be ready for. 501 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: Something else, yeah yeah, yeah, something. 502 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: That's maybe a Christmas movie or something it's not so 503 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: trauma driven. 504 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe an ice skating movie. Do you know why 505 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: I said that. I think it's because you said Christmas. 506 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, here we go, we're manifesting it 507 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: right now for you. Absolutely, yes, But I think there 508 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: should be something in your contract where your character is 509 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: never allowed to die. 510 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'll leave before that happens. We can. 511 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: I never want to see you. Who knows. 512 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: Look, at this point, I just don't think it would 513 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: be Anything can happen in that world, of course, but 514 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would be very. 515 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: Upset by that. Yeah. Yeah, but if the upset was 516 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: like a really really wild, gut wrenching episode that also 517 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: had also had an epic message of love, then that 518 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: would be okay, okay, okay. It has been on the 519 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: Zombie Apocalypse a lot. 520 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: You're like, I need a break from the Apocalypse. 521 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. He doesn't all have to be at this level. Yeah, 522 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 2: I know, I know. 523 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: Well that begs the question, do you know what's coming 524 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: up in the series, Like when you start filming a 525 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: whole new season, do you know everything that's about to 526 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: go down to that season finale and like maybe even 527 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: the following season or how clued in are you? 528 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? We're as clude in as we as we like 529 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: to be. We've got a lot of a lot of 530 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: access now to the process, and by access, I just 531 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: mean like we're all in the conversation together. And to me, 532 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: it's the exciting part is knowing that we have writers 533 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: who want to do a different thing and take it 534 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: somewhere new. And then I get to say, this is exciting. 535 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: You guys are amazing at your job, and I dip 536 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 2: in and dip out and try to make sure that 537 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: I still keep you know, my priority on acting. I 538 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 2: was the in directing, but in this in this season. 539 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we know we know stuff. And it's 540 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: funny because sometimes I sort of like, sometimes I missed 541 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: knowing less, just for just for vague moments where I 542 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: was where I wouldn't be, like thinking ahead or in 543 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: a conversation about something, and I was like, oh, I 544 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: like the surprise I looked back at. Don't get me wrong, 545 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: I never want to go back, because it's really really 546 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: fun to collaborate with the writers and to hear, to 547 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: hear the genus of an idea because as an actor, 548 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 2: you obviously take like the fully formed script and you 549 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 2: unravel it so that you get your connection to it 550 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: and watching other writers do sort of the reverse process. 551 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: It's really scintillating. But yeah, it's good. There's definitely less 552 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: like hanging around time I'm set. Yeah, yeahs too. I'm sure. 553 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Was there ever a storyline over all the 554 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: years for your character Maggie that you did not want 555 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: to do and that you maybe said, guys, I love you, 556 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: I respect you, but I got to kill this storyline 557 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: for her. 558 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: There was a storyline when after Maggie has this interaction 559 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: with the governor and it's not a pleasant interaction. It's funny. 560 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: I've never talked about this before. Oh my gosh, I 561 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 2: just realized the name of your show, and that was 562 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: not intentional. But I didn't think that her and Glenn 563 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: would have this moment of passion that they have afterwards, 564 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: because I felt like it was strange timing and I 565 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: still don't. I don't know how I feel about it, 566 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: but I do know that the scene and Glenn and 567 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: Maggie having that moment I'm very very glad of because 568 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: there's so little tenderness in the show, and there's definitely 569 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, it was like a celebration to see that 570 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: couple be together in that way. And then there's their 571 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: whole storyline falling in love and like the passionate things 572 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: that came with that and everything and who they were. 573 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: But I do remember at the time being like this, 574 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: she just went through this ordeal with the governor. Is 575 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: that where her brain's going to go to having this 576 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: this relation right right with her husband? And yeah, I'm 577 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: just reflecting on it now. But then there were there 578 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: were definitely just times where I had felt dreadful depicting 579 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: the moments of loss that Maggie had. But there are 580 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: obviously the things that are so great about the show. 581 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: You know, the things you dread are when your friends 582 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: get the call and the scene of them dying is 583 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: I know how to do it. And that's a rare 584 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: experience to have. It's a rare experience to feel so 585 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: deeply with people connect and everybody knows our little, our 586 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: little college of our fifteen year college experience. 587 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is rare. It is super rare and 588 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: super special. That's why I do imagine it feels like 589 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: a sucker punch, right like when you do lose a 590 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: friend on a show. I imagine when you read the 591 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: script or were told or called that hey, Glenn's going 592 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: to die. It was like, what what? 593 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: Totally and it was I mean, because that one was 594 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: from the comics, you knew it was sort of unavoidable 595 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: that the event would happen. The thing I think about 596 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: a lot too as we go forward into doing this 597 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: new season and is always making character death count, you know, 598 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: whether it's somebody that is awful and is a villain 599 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: and is making a lot of trouble for our heroes, 600 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: or it's somebody that you love. It's just like that 601 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: was always what was what was special about the working day. 602 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: It was so impactful about Game of Thrones. It was 603 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: what I love about sopranos. It's like, you're these these 604 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: death meaning something you know, and that's why we watch. 605 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we that's what that's what's thrilling 606 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: and meaningful. 607 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, spoken like an actor but also a director. 608 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of direct director vibes from you. 609 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: I'll talk about good shows, so that helps. 610 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well that's very very true. I I just 611 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: could talk to you forever, and I so love this 612 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: interview because it's so interesting to gain insight into such 613 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: a beloved character and the work that you do. That 614 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: really resonates and means so much to so many people, 615 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: and also step into this new journey of directing that 616 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: is so exciting to hear about and learn more about 617 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: you as a human, which is the purpose of this show. 618 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: It's to bring on fan favorite artists and celebrate you, 619 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: but also give you a chance that you don't always 620 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: get on a red carpet when you have two minutes 621 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: with somebody, and as you mentioned, you probably go home 622 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: and are like, oh my god, in two minutes, did 623 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: I say everything to make me look professional and polished 624 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: and interesting and fun and creative? And yeah, it's just 625 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: such a weird, unnatural situation, even for me covering them. 626 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: I kind of created the show because I was tired 627 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: of only having those interactions with people, even at a 628 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: junket maybe six minutes if you're lucky, but it's just 629 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: not enough time for real conversation. So that's where the 630 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: title I've Never said this before was born from, and 631 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: I always wrap up every interview with the question based 632 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: off that title, and that question is surprise Surprise, Is 633 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: there any anything you can think of that you've never 634 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: said before, whatever that means to you that you wanted 635 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: to say today. 636 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: Wait, can I say one thing real quick before I 637 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: say that, I really appreciate your interview, this interview with you, 638 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: and I really appreciate your demeanor and your you. This 639 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: was like a very nice conversation, and I feel relaxed, 640 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: and I feel like it's it's rare to to have 641 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: that experience in you know, we're on zoom right now, 642 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: and I totally hear what you're saying about those snippets 643 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: not allowing you to get into something. But but I 644 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: think you're also just very good at this, and I 645 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: just want to I just want to put a light 646 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: on that for a second, because that's one of the 647 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: things I'm I don't know. I guess I noticed. We 648 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit before. It's like, you 649 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: can go through you can go through life and not 650 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: stop and smell the roses. And I guess the thing 651 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: I've never said before is I'm going to I'm smelling 652 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: the roses. That sounds like such a strange thing. I 653 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 2: guess that's the point. Yeah, Yeah, that's it. 654 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: I like that you're smelling the roses. You're stopping more 655 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: in life too. And I got that also from a 656 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: little bit of what you were saying earlier. But to me, 657 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: that means you're kind of taking more time for you, 658 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: for Lauren, not just the artist, the actress, the fill 659 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: in the blank of what everything else wants or expects 660 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: you to be. It seems like you're really stepping into this, 661 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: this era of maybe putting you more front and center. 662 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: Is that right? 663 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's putting me. I think 664 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: it's maybe I'm finding balance and I sort of felt 665 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: ambitious about balance and now I feel balanced about balance. 666 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: And it's not perfect all the time, but I'm more 667 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: open in the truth of it all, right. I just 668 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: I want it. I know it's important. I prioritize it 669 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: and I mean that and I think I meant to 670 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: mean it before and I think now I mean it. 671 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: And maybe that's the thing I never said before. But 672 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna you choose what they never said before. Button 673 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 2: is in our conversation. I like it all. 674 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: I like it all. I think it's all wonderful and valid, 675 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: and I never when people say share multiple things. I 676 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: like to conclude it all because I think it's your 677 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: truth and I think that's really cool and I'm happy 678 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: to hear. I'm always happy to hear when somebody feels 679 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: like they're reaching that point of, as you say, balance 680 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: of stopping to smell the roses of To me, that 681 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: also means, I guess, for me personally, being better with 682 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: my mental health journey, right, and just making sure I'm 683 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: checking in with myself and being that person for me. 684 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: So I hope that's also what you're doing and checking 685 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: in with yourself. 686 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Yeah, And let and remember that 687 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: everything is a mirror insofar as like what do you 688 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: want to put out? And when I see something somewhere, 689 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: I need to know that that's that I have a 690 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: big part in how I'm seeing that, and I get 691 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: to I get to lift it up, I get to 692 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 2: improve it, I get to be gentle with it. And yeah, 693 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: but I like this mental health emphasis. 694 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, Lauren, not only are you a badass 695 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: in The Walking Dead City and everything you do as 696 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: an artist, but you're also a really cool, grounded human 697 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: and that's always rewarding for me when I get to 698 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: have these conversations. I would have loved you in studio, 699 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: and I know timing didn't work out, but even to 700 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: feel that on Zoom is such a pleasure, and I 701 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: just couldn't be happier to hear that you are finding 702 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: the things in life that make you feel good and 703 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: that make you feel grounded and balanced while doing work 704 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: you love and stepping into new zones of directing and 705 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: pushing and challenging yourself. I mean, I feel like it's 706 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: a good time in your life to be you, and 707 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear it and see it. 708 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Tommy, this was appreciate it. 709 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: Of course. Thank you. Everybody. Continue watching The Walking Dead. 710 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: It did to city and I hope to see another 711 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: episode directed by you in the near future. 712 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 713 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. 714 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 715 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. 716 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio 717 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 718 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 719 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: podcast network on iHeart Podcasts. 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