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Speaker 1: day is every day. We had a lot of energy

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to a Wednesday edition of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, Football Analyston Salent reporter for your Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: and of course glad to be with you this evening.

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Speaker 1: We've got plenty for you on the show tonight. I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait. There's one segment in particular that I cannot

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Speaker 1: wait for tonight, and that is the Men behind the Mikes.

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Speaker 1: We'll have that in our last segment of the first hour,

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Speaker 1: and it is Mark Vandimer sitting down with Wayne Laravie,

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Speaker 1: longtime voice of the Chicago Bears and also the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Imagine Mark being the voice of the Texans

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Speaker 1: and then going to be the voice of the Colts

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Speaker 1: or the voice of the Titans. That's what way Aramy

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Speaker 1: essentially is because he started his career, I want to say,

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Speaker 1: obviously is the voice of the Green Bay Packers, but

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Speaker 1: for a long time he was the voice of the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears and now the voice of the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: So I can't wait for that. We got Drew and

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Speaker 1: I in the lab and this one was pretty interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy this one. We'll have that later

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, we go straight to Texans audio jukebox,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of people talking today, a

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Speaker 1: lot of key people talking today, if you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So let's start with Romeo Crenell, who went

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Speaker 1: to the microphone this morning to talk about various things

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Speaker 1: going on with this football team. And of course with

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Speaker 1: all the different things that are happening, people wanted to

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Speaker 1: know about the passing game. Can't it be better? Here's

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Speaker 1: what Rick had to say. But the Texans passing attack,

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Speaker 1: I think it can be better. And one of the

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Speaker 1: things that helps it be better, hopefully we'll get it

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Speaker 1: to be better, is we're taking what the defense gives us.

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Speaker 1: So we're spreading the ball so they can't focus on

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Speaker 1: one particular guy as being the receiver. You know, they

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Speaker 1: got to cover everybody then, which basically gives us one

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Speaker 1: on ones and then if they double somebody, we recognize

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Speaker 1: the double then we can get to the one on one,

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Speaker 1: you know, so, so hopefully we can continue doing that

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Speaker 1: and put pressure on the defense. It certainly is a

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Speaker 1: different way of living, There's no doubt because when we

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Speaker 1: played for the last seven years, everybody knew who was

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Speaker 1: more than likely gonna get the double team. That was

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins for the most part. Now there are some

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Speaker 1: teams that did double will Fuller, and maybe towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the run in eighteen nineteen that's some more

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Speaker 1: really is kind of pick your poison. All right, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna double Fuller. We'll go to Cooks and double both

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Speaker 1: double all of them. I don't know if you can do.

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Speaker 1: We'll throw the ball Darren Fells or throw at the

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Speaker 1: Farrell Brown. Titans have been doing a really good job

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Speaker 1: getting open. Everybody's been doing a great job getting open

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Speaker 1: from that part, all right, Sean Watson's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: And Rack talked about the game plan to face future

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Speaker 1: And he's got weapons around him that he uses. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Packers in twenty sixteen December of twenty sixteen. It

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Speaker 1: It was a snowy day at lambeau Field, the field

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Speaker 1: I grew up going to see games, and Rogers was

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Speaker 1: He was just phenomenal. And I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: good against the Buccaneers. So hopefully the Texans will have

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Speaker 1: learned something from watching that tape. But yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: that is Lonnie Johnson, who has I don't say permanently

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Speaker 1: about Lonnie Johnson's move to safety. Lonnie has made a

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Speaker 1: I've been listening to sports Radio six ten, I mean

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Speaker 1: one of the stickiest points for them and talking about

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Speaker 1: is tackling, and the Texans have not tackled well. And

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Speaker 1: according to pff TO, Texans are one of the three

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Speaker 1: worst tackling teams in the league. And I've listened throughout

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Speaker 1: it's taught differently now, and we could actually work on

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make this tackling weakness. That's no excuse. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to tackle. The other teams

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Speaker 1: still making the tackles. I think the one thing that

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Speaker 1: last few years, they were all good tacklers. I mean

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Speaker 1: guy up. Romeo talked about the tackling as he was

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Speaker 1: asked about it this morning. Well, we're server games into

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Speaker 1: You know, you're not tackling much because you don't tackle

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Speaker 1: to do it practice, but you know, without taking guys

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Speaker 1: Simply put, the NFL has to be any football team

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Speaker 1: of gaps. It's a situation. I saw a one of

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Speaker 1: So Rack brings up a great point if people take

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Speaker 1: care of their gaps and take care of what they're doing. Look,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna physically get beat at times. I mean it happens.

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Speaker 1: You physically get beat at times, but if you're in

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Deshaun Watson as we spend

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Speaker 1: the Texans audio jukebox and getting his thoughts on a

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Speaker 1: to the next level, take the ball away and make plays,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately they were unable to do so. All Right,

431
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Speaker 1: what version of Aaron Rodgers are we getting now this

432
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Speaker 1: late in his career? How has he played in your opinion,

433
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Speaker 1: you've seen all the games. Well, he's been terrific for

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Speaker 1: the most part, and obviously struggled as everyone did at Tampa.

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Speaker 1: But in the first four games of the season he

436
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Speaker 1: kind of harkened back to the Aaron Rodgers of two

437
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Speaker 1: thousand and eleven. Everything was crisp, everything was quick. He

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Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't lost any arm talent or anything

439
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Speaker 1: like that. Maybe he's not as fast as he once

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Speaker 1: was when he gets out and breaks the pocket, but Nonetheless,

441
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: he's still the same quarterback. In my opinion, the only

442
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Speaker 1: difference between Aaron Rodgers and the two thousand and eleven

443
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: or twenty fourteen Aaron Rodgers are the receivers around him.

444
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Speaker 1: And back in those days, you know, you had a

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Speaker 1: Donald Driver, James Jones, A Jordy Nelson, A Randall Cobb

446
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Speaker 1: and his you know, young Randall Cobb. You had Jamichael

447
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 1: Finley who was a dynamic talent at you know, tight end.

448
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Speaker 1: So he doesn't have quite those kinds of players around

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Speaker 1: him outside of Bavanta Adams, who was a terrific talent.

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Speaker 1: But you know, no, their offense, their scheme was really

451
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Speaker 1: well executed the first four weeks of the season, and

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Speaker 1: like I said, last week at Tampa, they just seemed

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Speaker 1: to be off off script a little bit. And that

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Speaker 1: was even when they were up ten. Nothing they were

455
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 1: you could tell the offense wasn't quite flowing the way

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Speaker 1: it did the first four weeks of the season. Wayne Laravie,

457
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Speaker 1: voice of the Green Bay Packers, joining us. All Right,

458
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: so there's a narrative outside of the organization about Matt

459
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Speaker 1: Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers and how it all got started,

460
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Speaker 1: how is that relationship right now in your opinion being

461
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: close to it, I think it's very good. From what

462
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Speaker 1: I've seen and all i've observed off close, I think

463
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Speaker 1: they have a great relationship, and you know, both have

464
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: helped the other out. Matt obviously and introducing Aaron to

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Speaker 1: this new scheme, and Aaron kind of you know during

466
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: games with Matt saying, hey, listen, coach, hold on, hang on,

467
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna be all right. The schemes has some ebbs

468
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: and flows to it, but we're okay, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So I think both have been good for each other

470
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Speaker 1: because you've got experience from different areas, you know, different

471
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Speaker 1: types of experiences, and both have been great. They seem

472
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: like they're having great time working well together and that

473
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Speaker 1: type of thing. I thought last year. The one thing

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Speaker 1: that stood out to me about the team last year

475
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: was there was a fun element to it. The team

476
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Speaker 1: enjoyed each other, They enjoyed being together. I think that's

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Speaker 1: still carried over this year. Although you know, we're only

478
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Speaker 1: five games into the season, so it's hard to get

479
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Speaker 1: a field for how this team really is going to

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Speaker 1: work going forward. But I think this was a big

481
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: wake up call and now they face some adversity, and

482
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to get a look at what

483
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Speaker 1: kind of team they really are going forward way and

484
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Speaker 1: a couple of other players. I want to ask you

485
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Speaker 1: about Aaron Jones, the running back. What does he bring.

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Speaker 1: He's a dynamic back, you know, a great player with

487
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands in space, but he still

488
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: will do some of the dirty work. He doesn't shy

489
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Speaker 1: away from slamming it into the defensive line between the tackles.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't shy away from pass blitz pick up. He's

491
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: become an again he's a smaller player, so this is

492
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: not something that was natural to him, but he's become

493
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: very reliable at picking up the blitz, you know. But

494
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: and he's become an excellent receiver. He's worked on that.

495
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: He was not a great receiver coming out of Texas

496
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: al Paso, but he's become a very good receiver downfield.

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00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: They have no problems splitting him out as a wide receiver.

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00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: And due to the lack of I guess depth of

499
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: experience in their wide receiving corps outside of Davante Adams,

500
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: they will a lot of times take Aaron Jones and

501
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: put him wide and with the intent of playing him

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Speaker 1: like a wide receiver and seeing how the defense handles him,

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Speaker 1: how they cover him, who they put on him. What

504
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: about Zadarius Smith outside live backer? Five sacks so far?

505
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: They move him around the formation a lot, much like

506
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: the Texans do with J. J. Watt. But they'll they'll

507
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: play z on the outside from the left side, or

508
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: they'll move them to the right side, and then they'll

509
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot of time stand him up in the middle

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00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: of the defensive lines. So you'll see him in a

511
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. And you know, he had a

512
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Speaker 1: big game against Atlanta. He in Preston Smith, who had

513
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Speaker 1: brought such a great thunder to the Packers pass rush

514
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: a year ago. I've been a little more quiet this year,

515
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: but hoping to get on track on a more consistent basis. Wayne.

516
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Speaker 1: We were up there last preseason to practice against the

517
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Speaker 1: Packers and it was just terrific in the summer, being

518
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay and everything, and I like in the

519
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: Packers almost people say a college atmosphere. I think it's

520
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: almost like a big high school atmosphere because you're right

521
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle of town and it's just fantastic.

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00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: How do you describe it to people. I mean, you've

523
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Speaker 1: done a lot of games for a lot of different organizations, situations,

524
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: the Bulls, the Bears. How do you describe the Packers

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00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: to people who just don't understand well the experience of

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Speaker 1: where they are. And I know you went to college

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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. I don't know if you know Massachusetts that well,

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Speaker 1: but in western Massachusetts there's this town called Pittsfield Town

529
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Speaker 1: and it's Glory Days of about I don't know, twenty

530
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: thirty thousand, something like that. Green Bay, my youngest sister

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Speaker 1: once described we were driving into a Packers game at

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. She said, you know, Green Bay's like Pittsfield

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Speaker 1: with a pro football team in the middle of it. So,

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00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's kind of the way it is.

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Speaker 1: So there is a neighborhood feel to it because the

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Speaker 1: stadium is in a neighborhood. There's a high school feel

537
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: to it because that's how passionate the fans are that

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Speaker 1: live there. The Packers are part of the fabric of

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Speaker 1: it all. And that's the way it is around the state.

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00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: So that you know, when you consider this is like

541
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Speaker 1: a college atmosphere, yeah, well, the whole state and people

542
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: coming in from around the country give it that feel.

543
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: But I think you're right, Mark, there's a lot of

544
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Speaker 1: closeness of a high school team to this feel from

545
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: the fans. You know, they've regarded very personally and in

546
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: that regard, it's really kind of fun. It's need to

547
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: be a part of that to see that happening in

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00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: game day. You know, it just hasn't been the same

549
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: this year without the tailgates and the people in the

550
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: parking lot and getting there early in the morning and

551
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: smelling the charcoal grills firing up, that type of thing.

552
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: It's really surreal and obviously we really missed the fans.

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00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: I think everybody does. I'm getting hungry. Wayne Larvy, voice

554
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: of the Packers with us. Okay, you went to Emerson College,

555
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: great communication school, and is it true that you would

556
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: bring your tape recorder to the Boston Garden Celtics games

557
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: and do some play by play to hone your skills. Yeah,

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00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: you know I did that all four years. That was

559
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: a great experience. And this is you can't do that

560
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: now because this was back in the days when those

561
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: hockey booths upstairs were abandoned and you could just walk

562
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: in and sit down and do the game and like

563
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: you were in a real press box. And yeah, it

564
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: was really fun. I enjoyed doing that over the years,

565
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Speaker 1: and I really looked forward to that. I was a

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Speaker 1: big part of my college experience. A couple more for you, Wayne,

567
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: being part of the Bulls, I mean, you did these games.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the Last Dance as it

569
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: unfolded this summer ADESPN. I thought it was terrific for

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00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: me and for all those of us that were around

571
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: in those days. It was a you know, walk down

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00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: memory lane. And by that, I mean you saw the

573
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: security people in the banter that went back and forth

574
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Speaker 1: between the Bulls players and their security people. You saw

575
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: the pictures on the plane and all this prop memories

576
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: rushing back, you know, of all these faces and people

577
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: you haven't seen in twenty years. And that was really

578
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: the best part of it. You know. I thought they

579
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: did a good job of bringing drama to it. We

580
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: knew at that last dance season we saw the you know, obviously,

581
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: we knew there was a crew following the Bulls around

582
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: that would get unparalleled access. We just didn't think it

583
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: would take twenty years to see that access at one point,

584
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: but it was great. I thought it was just wonderful.

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00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: All right. So when people ask you, all right, you

586
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: were around Michael Jordan, Michael or Lebron, how do you

587
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: settle that debate? What do you tell them? It's you know,

588
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: they're two different players. I mean, Lebron is from a

589
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: different era and is you know, he's bigger, he's stronger.

590
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: You'd probably play more positions than Michael can. But the

591
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: drive and determination they brought, and I don't think anyone

592
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: is second to either of these two guys. Maybe Kobe

593
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: is in the same category, the drive and determination to win,

594
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think the I don't think anyone was

595
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: his cutthroat on a basketball floor ever as Michael Jordan,

596
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: and I think that was the edge he brought each

597
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: and every night when he stepped on the floor. And

598
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: he never missed a game. He never took a night off.

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: You know that that thing, well, I can't remember the

600
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: term they call it now in the NBA, where guys

601
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: load management, that was not a factor. Michael played in

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Speaker 1: all the preseason games, and he played in every game

603
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: during the regular season, and I want to ask him

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00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: about that. He said, you know why, because somebody paid

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00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: to come see me play, and if I'm healthy, I'm

606
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: going to play because that might be the only time

607
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: that person has a chance to see me play. So

608
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: he had a great feel for fans in that regard.

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00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: All right, same question when people ask you about Aaron Rodgers,

610
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Speaker 1: because my goodness, you did games with Michael Jordan. Here

611
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: you are with Aaron Rodgers. He had Brett Farr. But

612
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: what about Rogers? Where do you put them when they're

613
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Speaker 1: when you're asked to rank? And I don't want to,

614
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, put you on the spot, but I guess

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Speaker 1: I will. How do you define all that? He's one

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Speaker 1: of the great players I've had a chance to cover,

617
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: both as a player and a person, and you know,

618
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: really love Aaron Rodgers. I guess I'm partial to him

619
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Speaker 1: because I remember back when I was broadcasting Big Ten

620
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: games on ESPN Regional. We have this game at Illinois.

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Speaker 1: My partner Randy Wright, who was a former NFL quarterback

622
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: in a Wisconsin quarterback. We had a game at Illinois

623
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Speaker 1: and it was kind of a nondescript non conference game

624
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: as call at Illinois. Illinois had a really good defense

625
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: back in those days, and the guy that Jeff Tedford

626
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: was switching the quarterbacks in and out week to week,

627
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who to play. And this was

628
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers chance to play his first game. And we

629
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: did that game, and Randy, I remember, was effusive in

630
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: his praise. Rodgers tore up a good Illinois defense and

631
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: then I you know, from then on I kind of

632
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: followed the kid, and the next year, against the number

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00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: one ranked USC team that went on to win the

634
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: national championship, Rodgers completed twenty four straight passes against that

635
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: national championship team in the Coliseum in La. So when

636
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the Packers drafted him, I felt I knew Aaron Rodgers

637
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: and I was excited about that pick, even though many

638
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: around the Green Bay were not because the Packers didn't

639
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: need a quarterback at that time. But boy, they were

640
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: happy they now that they did that. I gotta think

641
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: bart Starr is still the most popular Packer quarterback of

642
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: all time. But what about Farv and Rodgers? How are

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Speaker 1: the second half, and then they'd put up a lot

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00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: of points in yards and that's why statistically it looked

854
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: pretty good at the end of the year. But when

855
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: you really break it down, you can't be down in

856
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: these games. If you could get the lead. Now, I

857
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: know you have the lead against the Titans, but you know,

858
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: give me the lead more often than not, I'm gonna

859
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: win more often than not. So let's see if they

860
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: can do it. Johnny, I think they can win games

861
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: with this offense. I mean this, this is breaking news.

862
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: You can win games with this offense and the defense

863
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: that you have. You know, obviously you need to execute

864
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: a whole lot better on the defensive side of the ball.

865
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: But I think they can and will, and if they

866
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: get some leads. If they're playing from a head on occasion,

867
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna win some games. And I still

868
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: think they have the wherewithal to get back into it.

869
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: But unfortunately for them, I mean, the margin for error

870
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: has been it's down to the nub. It's like bone

871
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: on bone, right, there's nothing. I mean, you, if you

872
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: lose to the Packers, all right, what are you gonna do?

873
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Run the table? But look, I'll be here to watch it.

874
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: I hope they get it done on Sunday. We can

875
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: take it from there. Yeah, I mean, that's you're right

876
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and that and that's the thing I think it's hard

877
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: for people to see, you know, through the one in

878
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: five record number one, they they've played. Of those six games,

879
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: four of them have been against four the top five

880
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: teams in the league. And two of those you had

881
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: to lead in the fourth quarter and you just couldn't

882
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: hang on to either game, that being Pittsburg and Tennessee

883
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: in both on the road. So this team has proven

884
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: it can get in a slug fest with some of

885
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league. It's just got to

886
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: finish those. And this is gonna sound really strange, but

887
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: the defense shows moments when you're like, yeah, wow, okay,

888
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: there it is. And it's a lot of times as

889
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I go back and I watch the film, Mark it

890
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: says I would say simple, but it really is guys

891
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: just doing their jobs and understanding this is my role

892
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: in this plug so I'm supposed to do and then

893
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: they go out and do it, and you're seeing PJ.

894
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Hall make a really big impact. There's an article I

895
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: read every week from The Athletic. A Reef Hassan does

896
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: article and it's basically he does like a like the

897
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: best players of the week sort of thing. Sean made

898
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: it this past week. I think Fuller made it. And

899
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: I think whenever whoever tweeted out said there's a name,

900
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: all surprise you. So I'm going on the list. I

901
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: see those two like, I don't know if those two

902
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: are surprising. I get the defensive line. PJ Hall also maybe,

903
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: And the quote about PJ was he was dominant at

904
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: times against the Titans, And I mean, that's what I'm

905
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: That's why I'm Ross Blacklock had plays. Did we talk

906
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: to Anthony We were in a coaches show the other night.

907
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: You know, Ross Blacklock made a couple of plays and

908
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: you could see the strength, you could see why the

909
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Texans drafting them, but it's just like when that's working,

910
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: the other pieces it or when that piece is not

911
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: working the other, it's just like they're kind of missing

912
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: each other that if they could just link up enough,

913
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: Like when you see the link up, you're like, Okay,

914
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: that's good, good team defense. But it's just not doing

915
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: it's not linking up enough. They're just kind of like

916
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: missing each other in the night at times, and that's

917
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: what's killing them. Listening to Anthony the other night, did

918
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: you get the feeling that and you know, having our

919
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: discussion with him, that they might try to simplify some

920
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: things that they might just try to keep it a

921
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: little here on some of the younger guys just to

922
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, just to play free, right, just to ball

923
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: out or craze dogs, whatever you want to say. Yeah,

924
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 1: you're right. I think that's that's when you think about

925
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: young players, the concern you always have is are they

926
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: just are they playing free? And I remember, I remember

927
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: when Bernardrick took over in twenty fifteen, he had Cush

928
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: next to him, so Bernardrick didn't know what he was

929
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: doing at all. I mean, he didn't even tell you that,

930
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: and Cushing is like b Mac, He'd like tell him,

931
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: you know what he had? And it really what it

932
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: did was it allowed Bernardric to just kind of play

933
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: because Cush would say, b Mac, you got this, you

934
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: got that, and it kind of just let him play.

935
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: And you saw b Mac get better and better by

936
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: the week, and then eventually he knew the defense cold

937
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: and then he was the one directing everybody. But that's

938
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: what allowed him, I remember that distinct. That's what allowed

939
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: him to play. Having Cush really kind of just helped, Hey,

940
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: here here, So I think that'll help. But this week,

941
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: oh boy. The good thing, if there is good news, Mark,

942
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: what is it's that they're gonna see some similar stuff

943
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: to what they saw against the Titans. Now, not from

944
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: a personnel angle, you're not facing Derrick Henry again. In fact,

945
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: you're facing probably the polar opposite and a smaller back

946
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: at Aaron Jones. But some of the scheme stuff, with

947
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: the motion and the shifts and all that, I think

948
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of the same things with

949
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. It's just that it's Aaron

950
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers at quarterback, which scares me to no end. What

951
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: do you think of the rest of the personnel though,

952
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: because this has been a narrative from the outside looking

953
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: in that they didn't really beef up what he's got

954
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: to work with. I know Jones is a good back,

955
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, I know that you have at least one

956
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: really good wide receiver. But you know, Mercedes Lewis, they're

957
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze whatever droplets of football or left in

958
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: his career and that kind of thing. I think there's

959
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: a difference between not having help and having help that

960
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: nobody really knows. And why I say that is, you know,

961
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: tight end Robert Tonyan guys caught a lot of touchdowns

962
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: this year. Nobody knows who he is, right, But it's

963
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: like he's good help for Aaron Rodgers. He's really good

964
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: down in the red zone and the low red I mean,

965
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: he's a really but people don't know who he is.

966
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, doitly help? And I don't. I

967
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case. You guys, Davante Adams and

968
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: he could always rely on Vante Adams, And I would

969
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: imagine that that Bradley Robey's gonna have that that responsibility

970
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: but Adams run such good routes. I think what will

971
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: help the Texans is they got a chance to see

972
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: that offense last year. I know it's different personnel for

973
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: the most part on the Texans side, but you know

974
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: that some of the guys saw that offense last year

975
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: when we went up to Green Bay and got a

976
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: chance to face Aaron Rodgers and kind of went through

977
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: that Oh my god, it's Aaron Rodgers face. They don't

978
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: have to kind of feel that way, and he's get

979
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: on the field and hopefully hopefully get it done. But

980
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's I would imagine that's the one thing

981
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to face. But you know, coming off

982
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: that lost to Tampa Bay, you just kind of hope

983
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: that funk is still there. But I just worry that

984
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: it's not like that was a one game blip and

985
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: the Packers get kind of get back up on the

986
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: horse this week, and that's worries me a little bit. Well, look,

987
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: this was a tough game for them. You know, the

988
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay defense number one in the league in yards

989
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, they're they're a top

990
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: five type defense, you know. According to Wayne Laravie, Voice

991
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers. And I just think that

992
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: that was a tough game, no doubt. But this could

993
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: be a tough game too for the Packers. Right, they're

994
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: going on the road again. The Texans know that the

995
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: bias coming. This is not a last house on the left,

996
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: but you know it has those elements to it. Johnny,

997
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you lose this one, you're one in six. Yeah,

998
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean that could be good night, you know. And

999
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: with the Redskins, the Washington football team as we know

1000
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: them now one in six and the RG three rookie

1001
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: year when they went on the big run and finished

1002
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: nine seven to one the division, it's pretty close, something

1003
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: like you know, when you got to reach for those things.

1004
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: You know, it's a rough start, a rough start. We're

1005
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: way through the start. It's a rough midsection of the

1006
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: season here. Uh. And the schedule shows no mercy. But

1007
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: if you think you can't beat them, you're wrong. You

1008
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: can beat the Packers. It's just easier said than done. Well,

1009
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: you know who was one in five who and didn't

1010
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: win the division but ended up winning nine of their

1011
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: last ten. You remember twenty eighteen Andrew luck in the

1012
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. They were one in five, they were five five.

1013
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: We beat them to make them one in three. They

1014
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: turned around, went to New England on Thursday night with

1015
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: nobody lost by two touchdowns, and the Jets beat them

1016
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: in New York forty two thirty four. And then they

1017
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: got on a roll and then it waxed and they

1018
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: beat the Texans in the playoffs as a road wild

1019
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: card weekend team. Sign me up for some of that.

1020
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: I'll go up there and beat them, no doubt I'd

1021
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: sign up for that as well. Mark appreciate, Thank you

1022
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: very much. Thanks Johnny. All right, coming up, let's dive

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Speaker 1: All right, we are to our second hour of this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday issue of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: football analyst and sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. So

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Speaker 1: glad to be with you this evening. I feel like

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Speaker 1: let's kick off the second hour with a little drews dozen.

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty sits down with a player. Each and every

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Speaker 1: week and just rifles through some non football questions, some

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Speaker 1: football questions, but mostly non football questions. And this week's victim,

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Speaker 1: I mean interviewee is Carlos Watkins, defensive linement for your

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans Drew take it Away time now for twelve

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Speaker 1: questions with defensive lineman Carlos Cans. Carlos, It's always good

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Speaker 1: to see you, and I miss seeing you because it

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01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: seems like back before COVID, you and I are times

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Speaker 1: in the cafeteria would line up and I would always say, hey,

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Speaker 1: what are you eating there, Carlos, And you'd show me

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Speaker 1: and I'd wind up trying it. And sometimes you'd say, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's that? Looks good and you'd wind up trying what

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Speaker 1: I eat. So let's talk a little food. What is

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Speaker 1: the perfect postgame meal after you guys get a win

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Speaker 1: at n RG Stadium, after say a noon game, what's

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Speaker 1: your perfect meal there after a win? I would probably

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Speaker 1: like a little a nice State from you know, State

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Speaker 1: forty eight or Masstros, like a nice Rabbi medium whale.

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01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes a medium depends. You know, you gotta have your

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01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: mac and cheese, your magic tators, and you gotta have

1166
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: a green you know, if I get If I get

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Speaker 1: all of those, you know, that's a complete good post

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01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: game meal after a win. You know, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: satisfied after I eat too, So that's even better. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I can eat with you. That sounds like

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Speaker 1: something that I wouldn't mind having as well. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a big chat. Tell me what makes you laugh. I'm

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Speaker 1: a goofy guy, really, you know, it don't take too

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Speaker 1: much and any laugh, you know, it could be somebody

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Speaker 1: doing something. It might be on accident, they might trip

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Speaker 1: up and let's say hurt. I don't laugh. Most of

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Speaker 1: the guys you got, we got funny guys on the team,

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Speaker 1: you know who made jokes. You know, watching the film,

1179
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: you see a lot of funky things. People fall in.

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Speaker 1: You might see a player bump into a fish show

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Speaker 1: or something, and it's just like, it's just hilarious to

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Speaker 1: see those things like that. I'm a goofy guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: always laughing, honestly. Who is the first person you text

1184
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Speaker 1: or you call after a game? My dad? We were

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Speaker 1: kind of we were kind of doing that for a

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Speaker 1: long time. Also, one of my former coaches, coach McDowell,

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Speaker 1: you know, he kind of gives me a like the

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Speaker 1: whole game thing, you know, him watching it really just

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Speaker 1: for me, you know, watching me and how I play,

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Speaker 1: and then we might discuss, you know, what happened in

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Speaker 1: the game and whatnot. But it's probably my DA or

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Speaker 1: a coach McDowell for sure. So are they giving you

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Speaker 1: kind of constructive criticism that that type of thing, Yeah

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Speaker 1: for sure. I mean I ain't gonna say it's too

1195
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Speaker 1: constructive right at the game, especially if it's lost. But

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Speaker 1: you know, that gave me some feedback that I definitely

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Speaker 1: need to hear it. Okay, let's do this one through five.

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Speaker 1: Let's rank the famous Carlos is you got yourself, Carlos

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Speaker 1: Watkins the astro shortstop, Carlos Correa, Carlos the Jackal, Carlos

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Speaker 1: Santana the guitarist, and Carlos the baby from the Hangover.

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Speaker 1: Where do they rank? One through five? I would probably

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Speaker 1: put myself at five, Oh, okay, all right, if you're

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: very humble, Yeah, yeah, I'll put myself at five, all right.

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Speaker 1: Next I'll probably go Carlos Santana, okay, and then I

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Speaker 1: might go who career? Carreer is cold? He gotta be

1206
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Speaker 1: knowing to who you said, Carlos the jackal, Yeah, the assassin.

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of a bad guy. Maybe we should

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Speaker 1: leave him off the list. All right, I started, I'll

1209
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Speaker 1: put him at five, and I'll be four, okay. Then

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Speaker 1: I'll put Carlos Antenna at three, okay, And then I

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Speaker 1: would put a caller's career at two, and then baby

1212
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Speaker 1: Carlos from the Hangover, the baby's number one. All right,

1213
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Speaker 1: we're lifting the children of the world up. I like you, Carlo,

1214
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Speaker 1: good now tell me this. We're in the pandemic. We're

1215
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: all wearing masks when we're around others, and we're being careful.

1216
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: But once this all ends, do you think when you

1217
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: go to a movie, theater or a restaurant that we

1218
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: should have to check our shoes at the door, take

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: our shoes at the door. Yeah, our shoes. And I

1220
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's that crazy. I don't think we should

1221
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: do that because honestly, I know people who really don't

1222
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: wear at socks and the feet really stinks bad, bad,

1223
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: And I couldn't imagine, you know, being in a movie.

1224
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: Then they're trying to watch a movie and you smell

1225
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: the whole time. But yeah, I think that might be

1226
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: taking it over boy right there. Yeah, you know one

1227
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: of the one of the guys that set that shot

1228
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: up that you were doing this interview on that set

1229
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: the camera. He thought we played a plat practical joke

1230
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: on him. And he thought that when he moved to

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Speaker 1: Texas that there was a law stating you had to

1232
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Speaker 1: take your shoes off when you went into a movie theater.

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Speaker 1: So oh, man, that'd been crazy took them off. Hey,

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Speaker 1: speaking of movies, Carlos, what's the first movie or the

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Speaker 1: only movie, or tell me the first movie that gave

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: you nightmares? Chuck Chucky? Huh, Yeah, I had. I had

1237
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: older cousins, you know, I was, I was younger than time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they you know, they was just

1239
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: I knew they wanted to scare me. It definitely. It

1240
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: definitely got to man. I really didn't sleep. I really

1241
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to sleep the whole night. I ain't I'm

1242
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: falling to sleep, but you know, yeah, I kind of

1243
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: messed up my mind a little bit. But I mean

1244
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: I'm good now. I don't have to the exact stat

1245
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: in front of me, but I believe that cousins are

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: as responsible for ninety three of the scary movies watched.

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, like, you don't watch a scary movie unless

1248
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: like your cousin has tricked you into that. Definitely, that's

1249
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't think cousins are not good at They've got

1250
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: a lot of other good qualities. I don't think that's

1251
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: especially especially the older cousins. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you

1252
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: on that. I'm with you, all right. What's the last

1253
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: thing you do before you go to sleep at night? Honestly,

1254
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: I uh, ice cream before a bid Almost every at night.

1255
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like a ritual. Now, I get

1256
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: the chocolate Halo ice cream strawberry. Those are my two favorites,

1257
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: you know. And they got a birthday cake that's pretty good,

1258
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: you know. I just eat a pint of that and then,

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Speaker 1: you know, go to bed. It's kind of like, I

1260
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: guess it culs me off too, So you know, something cold,

1261
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Speaker 1: and I just gonna be right that it's a ritual.

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01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: I hondestand I do it at night. Okey doke, all right,

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Speaker 1: what is the one app on your phone that you

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Speaker 1: cannot live without? I guess it's sad to say it

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: would be Instagram for sure. A lot of you know,

1266
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Speaker 1: you got a lot of friends and especially teammates, and

1267
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: you know that's where the good laugh come from. They

1268
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,839
Speaker 1: find funny videos on there, and you know that DMU

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, where other than that first quarter, nothing really

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01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: seemed to go right for Green Bay. So the big

1476
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: message that Matt Lafleur has been preaching to the locker

1477
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: room this week is that while it was disappointing and

1478
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: you have to learn from this, and you've got to

1479
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: figure out what went wrong in those last three quarters,

1480
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: you also need to make sure that you do what's

1481
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: right this week to not let it go against you

1482
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: this Sunday against a Houston Texans team, and you know

1483
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: this better than anybody. It's a lot better than what

1484
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: their record says. Considering the opponents that they faced, Green

1485
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: Bay's taking nothing for granted. They know this is going

1486
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: to be a challenge. So Aaron Rodgers, he threw his

1487
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: first pick six, I mean, that's something he rarely does

1488
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay and it seemed like things sort of

1489
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: downward spiraled from there. How does a guy like Aaron

1490
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers bounce back after something like that? And what was

1491
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: he saying after the game? Yeah, I mean it's funny.

1492
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: Fifteen years, twelve, thirteen seasons now as a starter, that

1493
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: was his third pick six of his career. Just so happens.

1494
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: That was the second one though against Tampa Bay had

1495
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: happened to him back in two thousand and nine as well,

1496
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: but back to back series. He had not thrown an

1497
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: i NT this season until that game, and obviously everything

1498
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: sort of rolled against them. But historically, if you look

1499
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: at Rogers, I mean when he's had a down performance,

1500
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: he's typically bounced back in a big way the next week.

1501
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: Even Green Bay underneath Matt Laflour last season. Other than

1502
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: obviously the NFC Championship Game loss, they came back the

1503
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: next week after a loss and had a victory. So

1504
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: Rogers I think the major message that he was trying

1505
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: to send after the game is he looks at as

1506
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: an anomaly. You know, things did not go their way.

1507
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: They had a couple different things that were working against

1508
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: them offensively, and you know, just weren't able to find

1509
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: their rhythm and really established any kind of, you know,

1510
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: sustainable offense. They had one three and out through the

1511
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: first four games of the season. They had like six

1512
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: or seven of them against Tampa Bay. So a very

1513
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: good defense and they're trying to learn their lesson and

1514
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers is trying to be better now going into this

1515
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: game against the Texans. Well, it's year sixteen brand Rodgers,

1516
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: and he was off to a very hot start. Minus

1517
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: the two interceptions in the loss to Tampa Bay, he

1518
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: had thirteen touchdowns for the season, one hundred and nine

1519
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: point seven passer rating, which, according to Next Gen Stats

1520
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: powered by AWS as the fifth best in the NFL.

1521
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: So what's a year two like for him? Under Matt Lafleur,

1522
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 1: we were up there in green Bay for joint practices

1523
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: last year. We're very familiar with Matt lafloor down here

1524
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 1: in Houston. He spent some time here with the Texans,

1525
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: but it seemed like it got off to a rocky start.

1526
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: But the two are really meshing together. Well, So how

1527
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: has that chemistry really developed and how are the two

1528
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: working together? Yeah, it's developed in a big way. DP.

1529
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something where you look at where

1530
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: they were last year when Matt Lafleur was trying to

1531
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: implement his style of offense, his terminology in meshing it

1532
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: with what Aaron Rodgers did well for so long in

1533
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's system. That took time to really get it

1534
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: sort of streamlined and making sure that the personnel fit

1535
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: the vision of what Lafleur wanted to do this offseason.

1536
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: They took the virtual offseason program extremely serious. When some

1537
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: teams were trying to figure out, Okay, do we even

1538
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: do anything on zoom? Did we just come back for

1539
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 1: training camp, Lafleur made it known right away he wanted

1540
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that they did whatever they could to

1541
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: get guys in the classroom understanding the system and the concepts,

1542
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: and they started off fast in training camp. It was

1543
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: a lot smoother than I expected, and they really shot

1544
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 1: out of the gate too in that game against Minnesota.

1545
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: So I think you're blending the concepts of what Lafleur

1546
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: does so well, the pre snap motions, bunch formations, building

1547
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 1: stuff off the run and setting up big plays downfield,

1548
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: with the passing game, with a lot of the things

1549
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: that Rogers does well in his ability to sort of

1550
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: decipher what's happening at the line of scrimmage and make

1551
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: those kind of adjustments. It's been a really good marriage

1552
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: so far. They've had to go through a lot of

1553
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: different injuries and personnel offensively, but I think because of

1554
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: how good the scheme has really been tailored to what

1555
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: Rogers wants to do, they've been able to persevere through

1556
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: it up until, of course, that game against Tampa Bay. Well,

1557
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Devantae Adams, we all know what he can do up

1558
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: there for Green Bay. He's coming off such a big

1559
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: season in twenty nineteen, and it seems like twenties headed

1560
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: in the same direction for him. What makes him such

1561
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: a go to target and so hard to cover for

1562
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: defenses just that sixth sense that he has with Rogers.

1563
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: I mean He's a guy that developed underneath Jordy Nelson,

1564
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb now at the Texans, and some of those veterans.

1565
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: A very close friend of James Jones, a longtime Packers receiver,

1566
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: he understood what it is required of receivers in this

1567
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: offense to not only make plays, but really be able

1568
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: to stay on the same page with Rogers at all times.

1569
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: And he's developed in that system and he's grown in it.

1570
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: He's become a three time Pro Bowl receiver now. But

1571
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: the real big X factor for him, and you can

1572
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: ask anybody at the league level, is just how good

1573
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: his footwork is. In his fundamentals. I mean, there is

1574
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: just something about the way that he can beat guys

1575
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage and create separation for himself

1576
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: that is just out of this world. He is a

1577
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: master of the entire route tree. And I think when

1578
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: he's healthy, and now certainly he's been working through a

1579
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: little bit of a hamstring tweak, but when he's healthy,

1580
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at one of the top ten

1581
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: top five receivers in this league right now. And Rogers

1582
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: trusts him wholeheartedly. Last week, they were trying to get

1583
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: back on the same page after Adams missed two games

1584
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: and then obviously the bye week, But you know, six

1585
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: catches sixty yards. I think that gave them sort of

1586
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: a building block for what they want to try to

1587
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 1: do now moving forward, because he's a huge part of

1588
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: what this offense wants to do well. In the off season,

1589
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: it seemed like the Packers were really relying on free

1590
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: agent Devin Funches to get back there behind Davante Adams.

1591
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: They didn't draft a wide receiver and a pretty wide

1592
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: receiver heavy draft, so then Funcius goes out upside of

1593
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season due to COVID. What does a

1594
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver group look like behind Davante Adams. How challenging

1595
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: was that for the offense to sort of compensate for

1596
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: the loss of a free agent that they thought was

1597
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: going to be a pretty big part of this offense. Yeah,

1598
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: the Devin Funcis thing I think took a lot of

1599
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: people by surprise. But if you understand, you know where

1600
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: he's coming from and what is exactly how that's affected

1601
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 1: his family, It made a lot of sense for his

1602
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: decision to step away this year. Wants to get his

1603
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: career back going in twenty twenty one, a guy that

1604
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 1: the Packers were really excited about. What they did instead though,

1605
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: is they looked inside. I mean, this was a decision

1606
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: that was made on the eve of training camp, so

1607
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: it became a lot of Davante Adams again, but also

1608
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, who is a receiver that you probably won't

1609
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: be seeing on Sunday. He's dealing with a core muscle

1610
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: injury a game in which he had one hundred and

1611
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: forty six receiving yards and a touchdown against the New

1612
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. So Thizard really grabbed that number two role

1613
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: and he didn't relink with shit in camp. Rogers again

1614
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: another guy that he really trusts. But beyond that, it's

1615
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: come down to really making the most out of the

1616
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: other skill positions. I mean, certainly they still have receivers

1617
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: there that he likes and that can help this offense.

1618
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: Mark quez veld Is Scantling, the fifth round pick from

1619
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen, is a big, over the top

1620
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: target and a guy that could threaten that next level

1621
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: of the defense. But it's also fallen on Aaron Jones

1622
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: and in Jamal Williams to be parts of this passing game.

1623
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: Robert Tunyan the third year tight end, former receiver that

1624
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: they converted to that tight end spot. He's become the

1625
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: number one target there and also we'll have to see

1626
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: whether or not he's actually on the field, But former

1627
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Houston Texan Tyler Irvin has been a big part of

1628
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: what they do with their presnap motions. Kind of a

1629
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: tweener player, you can do both the receiver stuff. He's

1630
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: with the receivers in that room, but he's technically also

1631
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: a running back. So they've just had to rely on

1632
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 1: more pieces because it just hasn't been you know, those

1633
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: one or two three type veteran players that were always

1634
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 1: so prominent Mike McCarthy's offenses. Yeah, Tyler Irvin certainly a

1635
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Swiss Army knife. We knew what he could do here

1636
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: just to help seemingly an issue for him always. You

1637
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: mentioned the run game, so let's talk about that. Aaron Jones,

1638
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, they both out there, you know, adding to

1639
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 1: the ground game for the Packers. How are they different

1640
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: in their skill sets and how do they like to

1641
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: use them? Last year, you know, you saw it so

1642
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: much with how they both grew in Matt Lafleur's system.

1643
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: But they grew in different ways. I mean, these are

1644
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: guys that are best friends off the field. They both

1645
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: came in in the twenty seventeen draft, one round after

1646
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,799
Speaker 1: each other, and they share the same agent, Lee Steinberg

1647
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: and Chris Cabots, so they've known each other for four

1648
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 1: years and just seeing how their relationship has flourished. It's

1649
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: a one two combination that you're very rarely going to

1650
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: see in the National Football League. And they're just really

1651
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 1: totally different running backs. Aaron Jones is the one that

1652
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of acclaim just because of you know,

1653
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: what he can do and how shifty he is, and

1654
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: there's always a big play that's potentially there for him

1655
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: to make. But Jamal Williams is one of the most

1656
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: well rounded running backs I've ever covered. And if it

1657
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: wasn't really for Aaron Jones being drafted a year after

1658
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: him in twenty seventeen, this is a guy that could

1659
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 1: have really easily been a bell cow for this offense.

1660
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: He's a power back. He made it a point this

1661
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: year to get leaner. He dropped about ten pounds, he

1662
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: improved his route running. He had a career high ninety

1663
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: five receiving yards before the bye week against Atlanta, so

1664
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: they'll use both of those guys at any given time.

1665
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: When Irvin was missing in this game against Tampa Bay,

1666
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: they were using Aaron Jones in the prestap motions. They

1667
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: also drafted second home pick aj Dillon that they're trying

1668
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: to get involved in the offense more too, so Matt

1669
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Lafleur comes from that Kyle Shanahan Mike Shanahan coaching tree.

1670
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: They like getting multiple running backs involved. They like being

1671
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: able to keep Aaron Jones healthy and really fresh for

1672
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: the fourth quarters. So they're going to rely on a

1673
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: lot of different backs to get them not only through

1674
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: this game against the Texans, but the entire season. And

1675
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: that's why, at least during my time on the beat,

1676
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: this is definitely the deepest that they've been at that position.

1677
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk about the pack. There's defense.

1678
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,799
Speaker 1: It's hard to get a gauge on what their identity

1679
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: is on the field. They're sort of in the middle

1680
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: of the pack against the pass, against the run. You know,

1681
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: they sort of struggle in the takeaway department, much like

1682
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: the Texans. They've only had three for the season, even

1683
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 1: though Aaron Rodgers has been pretty clean the Texans have

1684
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,160
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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week, second time he's earned that

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Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about Randall Cobb. We've seen

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1748
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1756
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Speaker 1: those lots, a lot of other businesses around it, and

1893
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: there's about fifteen cars on a lot, none of them

1894
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: look good, and you got a little air air blowy

1895
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 1: thingy that's going all over to the place. Of course,

1896
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: imagine I have a bad hairpiece. I'm not bald. I

1897
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: just got a haircut, and we would see it. Yes, sir,

1898
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: it's a little bit too short for my life. Anyways,

1899
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 1: I's got a bad hairpiece, a nineteen seventies plaid jacket,

1900
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: a big big wide tie, and I'm trying to get

1901
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: you into this? Can I get you? Can I interest

1902
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 1: you in this? My friends, and don your name John Well,

1903
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,560
Speaker 1: John John? What would you think if I told you

1904
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: that I could get you a game where the Texans

1905
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: are plus two in turnover differential? Is that something you'd

1906
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 1: be interested in? Okay, You've got my you've got my attention.

1907
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: This is more than just a thirty second elevator test. Okay,

1908
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 1: so improved on that. What if I got you a

1909
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: quarterback into Shaun Watson who threw four touchdowns and zero interceptions?

1910
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: Is that something you'd like? Might you be interested in

1911
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: that type of a deal? Okay? No, wait a second.

1912
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: You are a sleazy car salesman and you're telling me

1913
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 1: that I get plus two in turnovers. I am, and

1914
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: and I get four touchdowns from Shaun Watson and no

1915
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: turnovers going the other way. That's right? And how you

1916
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: seem like a nice guy, and you know, you seem

1917
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 1: like somebody I enjoy talking with. So I'm gonna let

1918
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: you in on something else. How about I get you

1919
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: a blocked field goal? Would you like that? Those other

1920
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: two things come on? That's now that Now it's just

1921
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: too much. Man, I'm gonna do it for you. I'm

1922
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: gonna do this. I'm gonna do it. Which was that

1923
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 1: all of it? Yes, all those things? Okay, Um, I listen.

1924
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: I like all those things. And if I get all

1925
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 1: of them in one car, I mean, I mean, I

1926
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 1: would love that. I'll take that today. Hold on again. Okay, yeah,

1927
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: in my imaginary, my managers telling me this, but I'll

1928
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: throw this in. Okay. Texans are gonna start at the

1929
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: thirty one yard line average their own thirty one yard line.

1930
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be their average starting field position. Titans aren't

1931
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 1: going to start at their twenty one. So I'm gonna

1932
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: give you ten yards a field position every drive. You

1933
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 1: like that? Okay? I mean seriously, I mean where I

1934
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: mean drew the car sales and where do I sign?

1935
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Where do I sign? I I can tell you're ready

1936
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 1: to sign. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a good dude.

1937
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I want to let you in on something else. I

1938
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: want to let you we got something else for you. Okay, okay,

1939
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I trust you, I trust you.

1940
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: What do you got for me in the red zone?

1941
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna go four for four? Cool with that? I

1942
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: mean I told you I'm already interested. I mean you're

1943
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 1: just you're just driving it home. I mean you're basically

1944
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: telling me that I do not have to call my

1945
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: wife to get confirmation of me making this purchase. Like

1946
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: this is all I mean, I'll be able to tell

1947
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: her all these great things I'm gonna get. So yeah,

1948
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, you don't have to tell me anymore.

1949
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just hand me the pen. I'm ready, I'm

1950
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: ready to sign. That's not how we do things here

1951
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: at Doherty Automotive Dealership. Dad, okay, because old Dad a

1952
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: great deals, doesn't he Hey, Dad gets good deals. That's yeah,

1953
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: it's a great tagline. Sometimes sometimes you gotta go to

1954
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: fourth down. You don't want to go to fourth down

1955
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: too much? Yeah, but what do you go to third,

1956
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: fourth down three times and you convert all three of them?

1957
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: That is that's something that could maybe turn your tension,

1958
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: maybe drive this thing home for good. Put the nail

1959
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: on the coffin. Um. Absolutely, I mean, you're giving me

1960
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: more touchdowns already, no turnovers created or no turnovers to

1961
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 1: the other team. You're giving me two turnovers that they

1962
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: don't get. You're giving me a block field goal and

1963
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: you're giving me three forty three on fourth down. Yeah,

1964
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 1: so here about go ahead, Can you sign right there

1965
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: and this this uh this car as your Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

1966
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: I will sign. Okay, it's okay. The deal's official. Okay,

1967
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: deals official. Okay, John, Well, the cars yours, you're gonna

1968
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: need to uh put some new wheels on it, um,

1969
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: not just new tires, but new wheels. And one of

1970
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: the axles is split and it also needs a carburetor.

1971
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: So thanks for your business. We appreciate everything. But I

1972
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: forgot to mention that the Titans had six hundred yards

1973
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 1: of offense. And yeah, it was. It was kind of tough.

1974
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: All right, Better Business Bureau needs to hear about this nonsense.

1975
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: You can't give me all of that without me knowing

1976
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: six hundred one your cards a total offense. I didn't

1977
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 1: give me just three good things to think about. I

1978
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: gave you six good things to think about it. Yeah wait,

1979
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 1: hold up, that's but but you didn't you buried the

1980
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: lead car salesman, Drew Dad, I mean Drew Automotive d

1981
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: I mean I'm a car sales I'm not very happy.

1982
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 1: I'm a car salesman, not a journalist. Well, I guess

1983
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: you got me on that one. Definitely got me on

1984
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 1: that one. Well, it's been good doing business with you.

1985
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I hope I can bring your business back next Tuesday

1986
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: and perhaps do it again. Does that sound fun to

1987
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 1: use that something the deal you might be interested in. No,

1988
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: I mean, if you are going to give me all

1989
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 1: that great stuff and then tell me, oh, it's six

1990
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: hundred and one yards a total offense, a ninety four

1991
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 1: yard run in a fourth quarter, basically untouched, you're gonna

1992
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: tell me all that, You're gonna give me all those

1993
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 1: good things, but then you're gonna give me all that

1994
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: on the back end, and I tell me about that

1995
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: after I sign No, I don't want to deal with

1996
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Dorty Automotive ever again. Fair enough, Okay, So all those

1997
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: things go down. The Xan's fall, it was. It was ugly.

1998
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some major major problems defensively that we

1999
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: saw on the ground through the air. I mean, you

2000
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 1: can't just say it was just the run defensive time,

2001
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:16,759
Speaker 1: because he had three hundred plus passing yards. Romeo Cornell

2002
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 1: he called a spade a spade in the postgame press conference.

2003
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: He said on the ninety four yard touchdown run, excuse

2004
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: me the final touchdown the wildcat, he said, I didn't

2005
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: call time out because we practiced that play. Is it

2006
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: simply a matter of guys just on a one by

2007
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: one basis, simply not doing their jobs and trying to

2008
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: do a little bit more than what they should be doing. John,

2009
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: Is that what you saw on Sunday? You know, Drewid's

2010
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: interesting in a game of eleven people on either side,

2011
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:52,560
Speaker 1: you can have a breakdown of one person, and you

2012
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: know a lot of times it's a breakdown of more

2013
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 1: than one, but you can have a breakdown of one person.

2014
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: You can circle one person to say, watch this play

2015
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: and this is why this play worked for the opposition.

2016
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: And that happened on the Will full or fifty three

2017
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: yard touchdown for some reason, Malcolm Butler. The Titans got

2018
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:16,560
Speaker 1: good pass rush. Everybody else is pretty much covered. But

2019
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler just forgot what his coverage responsibilities were and

2020
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: Will Fuller just kept running down the field. Sean saw

2021
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 1: him and threw a ball deep. One guy got Tennessee

2022
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: beat on that play. And it was a good scheme, yes,

2023
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:36,600
Speaker 1: but he blew the coverage. One guy sometimes is the

2024
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 1: breakdown for this defense and it's not the same guy

2025
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: every time, you know, it's not always you know, I

2026
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: would say this true. This is gonna sound weird. You know,

2027
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 1: the defensive tackles inside. I know when you think of

2028
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: run game, that's what you think about. Oh there's no

2029
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: DJ reader. Oh those defensive tackles are getting squashed. That

2030
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 1: really is not the case. You know, Brandon done at

2031
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 1: PJ Hall have done a decent job inside, but PJ

2032
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:07,639
Speaker 1: Halls so surprisingly remarkably and probably been a bright spot. Yeah,

2033
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: on a very rough season otherwise for this defense. Yeah,

2034
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: but defensively, and you talk about gap integrity and responsibilities,

2035
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:24,759
Speaker 1: and you know, look, sometimes when you have otherworldly talent,

2036
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, like a JJ Watt, sometimes you're not always

2037
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna do what. Okay, I know my gap is here,

2038
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: but I've been playing this game for so long I

2039
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,560
Speaker 1: recognize this run set. I'm gonna jump out of my

2040
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 1: gap and go here and go make the play. And

2041
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is people on the defense start

2042
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: feeling like, man, I need to go make a play.

2043
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: I need to go make a play, and so you

2044
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: start trying to do some other guys out, Hey, look,

2045
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I want to dart in here. Because I think I

2046
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: can make it, and you end up getting nudged or

2047
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:58,679
Speaker 1: pushed out of the way, and all of a sudden

2048
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: they run the ball where you were supposed to be.

2049
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 1: And I think a great example of that was the

2050
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 1: ninety four yard run by Derrick Henry. Brandon Dunn and PJ.

2051
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Hall did a really nice job of clogging it up

2052
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: on the place side. Yeah, on the left, on the

2053
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: left side, and then the hole on the right, yeah, yeah, right,

2054
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: And so Terrell Adams jumps up to fill that thing,

2055
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: got the whole like a wall built. But Henry sees

2056
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 1: that gap to his right and nobody can get in

2057
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 1: that gap, and Zach Cunningham had to jump over needed

2058
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 1: to jump over to that gap sooner because of what

2059
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: the guys in front of him were doing. The guys

2060
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: in front, Brandon Dunn and PJA Hall are doing a

2061
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: good job holding things up if Zach just follows the

2062
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: rules of gap integrity, like, hey, these guys are taking

2063
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 1: care of these gaps. I better bouncing this gap. Make

2064
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 1: sure that he doesn't show up here, because if he did,

2065
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: he would hit him right in the face. With him

2066
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: in a two yard game, but acting get there fast

2067
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: enough Henry does, and now he's off to the races.

2068
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 1: And now you're talking about guys six three, two forty

2069
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: seven who might be the fastest guy in the field

2070
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 1: at that point, with one guy in front a safety

2071
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: and all the room to make him miss, and he's

2072
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 1: off to the races. And look, MC guy ran for

2073
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve yards. I'll never take anything away

2074
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: from Derrick Henry. I've been a big, big Derrick Henry

2075
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: Finn for a long time. He played Ulee High School,

2076
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: which is just outside of Jackson, though, so I've fought

2077
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 1: him for a long time. He's always been a man

2078
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: among boys. He still is in the NFL a man

2079
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: among boys. But the Texans made it easy for him

2080
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: easier than that. Yes, yeah, and really, if you take

2081
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: away that nine four yard run, which I know kind

2082
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: of makes me ill to even say it, but if

2083
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 1: you take away that ninety four yard run, Let's say

2084
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,600
Speaker 1: you stuff him there and you create a three and

2085
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 1: out and get the ball back and then finish the game.

2086
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: At that point, Henry has one hundred twenty five hundred

2087
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: thirty yards and then you don't go in overtime, so

2088
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't have another fifty three in the receiving game.

2089
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 1: So he walks out there with a little bit, a

2090
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: little bit more than he's had in games this year,

2091
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 1: and you probably win that game. And yet that's a

2092
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: bust up front for one guy, maybe a second guy. Now,

2093
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,719
Speaker 1: did the Titans block it up pretty well? Sure, yeah,

2094
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: they did a decent job blocking it up. But what

2095
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: happened was because of the way that Dunny and PJ

2096
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 1: played it, the place should haven't stopped. And so after

2097
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: that play, I was in my moat and I was

2098
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 1: like right in line with the defense, and I see

2099
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: Donny have a surface or an eyecad or whatever you

2100
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: having sidelines and he gets up, he throws it down,

2101
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,280
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Speaker 1: I could feel his pain. It's like I'm down in

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Speaker 1: then you explain to the guy if you're mad about

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Speaker 1: and that's what he did. So I knew that Brandon

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Speaker 1: They knew it was coming. It wasn't like you saw

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Speaker 1: It was perfectly. The personnel was perfect. They knew what

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Speaker 1: gonna take a yard. So my point in saying all that,

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Speaker 1: Drew is, I think this defense, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: okay man p J. Hall has been doing some good things.

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Speaker 1: don't take advantage. The Titans took advantage of all of

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Speaker 1: of total offense. And hopefully that's not gonna happen ever again.

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Speaker 1: But the Texans will get tested with the Packers coming

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