1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh, welcome in.

2
00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,680
Speaker 2: I hope all of you are having a fantastic Tuesday

3
00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,200
Speaker 2: wherever you may be across this great country.

4
00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,400
Speaker 1: Or around the world.

5
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,000
Speaker 2: I am around the world a bit in Israel, where

6
00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,599
Speaker 2: we have been touring so many different amazing places and

7
00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,800
Speaker 2: seeing a lot of what the front lines of a

8
00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:27,960
Speaker 2: war looks like from Lebanon down. Yesterday, Buck, we were overlooking Gaza.

9
00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good stuff that's up at Clay

10
00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,120
Speaker 2: and Buck, of what we are seeing here, you got

11
00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,480
Speaker 2: while we're here the situation in Syria, which I'll probably

12
00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,159
Speaker 2: ask you about in a little bit because I'm curious

13
00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,280
Speaker 2: how you would break.

14
00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,319
Speaker 1: All that down. But I did want to make sure that.

15
00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,280
Speaker 2: We played this cut because there have been a lot

16
00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,040
Speaker 2: of people out there, Buck, as we have been talking

17
00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,240
Speaker 2: about Daniel Penny and the not guilty verdict in the

18
00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,880
Speaker 2: subway case, and also the arrest of the individual as

19
00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,040
Speaker 2: we were just talking about in the healthcare system for

20
00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,840
Speaker 2: the murder of Brian Thompson, there have been some people

21
00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,280
Speaker 2: out there trying to analogize these two situations as if

22
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 2: they are similar. In particular, a woman named Audi Cornish

23
00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:23,640
Speaker 2: is on CNN and I saw this clip and I.

24
00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Couldn't believe it was real. But she a pair.

25
00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,880
Speaker 2: She compared them both and said, tell me why one

26
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,200
Speaker 2: vigilante action is okay and the other one is not.

27
00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,600
Speaker 2: Listen to this, this is CNN. This is what they

28
00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,320
Speaker 2: are putting on CNN these days. Hey, basically these are

29
00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,800
Speaker 2: the same.

30
00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,240
Speaker 1: Listen.

31
00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240
Speaker 3: Later in the night, we're also going to talk about

32
00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240
Speaker 3: Penny and the verdict. There there, you also have a

33
00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,639
Speaker 3: victim who somebody determined did not deserve to continue living.

34
00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,400
Speaker 4: No, no, no.

35
00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me tell me which Tell me which vigilant

36
00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,080
Speaker 3: the action is okay?

37
00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,920
Speaker 4: One is being proactive?

38
00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,880
Speaker 3: Right, So this kid who executed someone executed a guy

39
00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,440
Speaker 3: walking away from him, shot him in the back, shot

40
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,720
Speaker 3: him in the for no reason whatsoever.

41
00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,520
Speaker 4: Damiel Penny is a hero.

42
00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,000
Speaker 1: You can say anything you want. Talk to people who

43
00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,280
Speaker 1: ride the subway every.

44
00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,520
Speaker 2: Day, because I do all the time, I do all

45
00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,880
Speaker 2: the I can't find anyone who rides the subway and who's.

46
00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,880
Speaker 4: Unhappy about this verdict.

47
00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,079
Speaker 2: Okay, buck is audi cornish. That was a good responsive

48
00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,960
Speaker 2: defense that was. Let me give him credit.

49
00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,720
Speaker 1: Arthur A. Dalla, I'm not sure how you pronounced that

50
00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,200
Speaker 1: last name.

51
00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:37,640
Speaker 4: A Galla.

52
00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,840
Speaker 2: Rial attorney, and then you also had Scott Jennings jumping in.

53
00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,760
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll play that as well on CNN. But do

54
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,400
Speaker 2: you think this woman Audi Cornish really finds the situation

55
00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,920
Speaker 2: similar or do you think this was an intentionally daft comparison?

56
00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,640
Speaker 2: Because this is frequently what identity pology requires. It requires

57
00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:08,320
Speaker 2: trying to strangle and stretch and completely alter the trajectory

58
00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,400
Speaker 2: of a story to fit your preconceived narratives. Is she

59
00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,000
Speaker 2: too dumb to realize what she's doing? Or is she

60
00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,519
Speaker 2: intentionally dishonest here? What do you think?

61
00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,760
Speaker 4: I think, as there's an awakening in America about what

62
00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,280
Speaker 4: has happened with criminal justice in recent years, when the

63
00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,800
Speaker 4: left has gotten their way, we have seen laid bare

64
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,880
Speaker 4: more than at any time I think in my adult

65
00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:40,000
Speaker 4: lifetime that there is on the left a purely race

66
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:47,320
Speaker 4: identified or a race first view of criminal justice, and

67
00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 4: that people feel the need to support whatever in the moment.

68
00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,600
Speaker 4: The narrative is of white people doing bad things to

69
00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,320
Speaker 4: black people, and that is what the system perpetuates and protects.

70
00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,640
Speaker 4: And even when the facts do not align with that narrative,

71
00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,880
Speaker 4: there's a tremendous amount of resentment for the system and

72
00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,000
Speaker 4: resentment for people who don't go along with this. So

73
00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,480
Speaker 4: I think that the racial identify, you know, sort of

74
00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,240
Speaker 4: racial solidarity, if you will, of the left in these

75
00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,840
Speaker 4: incidents is becoming very clear. And let me give you

76
00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,400
Speaker 4: an example as to how this is or what we

77
00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,360
Speaker 4: see going on here. There have been people on the

78
00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360
Speaker 4: left who have said, I don't want to I can

79
00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,800
Speaker 4: think of a couple, but I'm not I might be

80
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,120
Speaker 4: getting the name wrong, but who have publicly said in

81
00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,440
Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours, Oh, if this had been different,

82
00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:48,040
Speaker 4: if Daniel Penny had been a forty something time arrested

83
00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,279
Speaker 4: violent criminal with a schizophrenia, long drug history, et cetera,

84
00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,760
Speaker 4: et cetera, and the black marine on the subway had

85
00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400
Speaker 4: stepped in and did this, all the people who are

86
00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:07,360
Speaker 4: currently supporting Daniel Penny would completely switch. That is just

87
00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,280
Speaker 4: a lie that does not take into account the fundamental

88
00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,119
Speaker 4: philosophical approach of conservatives on this issue. We want people

89
00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 4: to be safe. We believe citizens and Americans of any

90
00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,120
Speaker 4: color of any creed should be safe and should be

91
00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,679
Speaker 4: able to defend themselves. And we should support black, white,

92
00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:33,440
Speaker 4: Hispanic Asian anyone who in good faith intervenes to protect others, black, white, Hispanic, Asian,

93
00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,120
Speaker 4: et cetera. Right, But see, they believe this Clay. They

94
00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,760
Speaker 4: believe it's always what color is the perpetrator, what color

95
00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,240
Speaker 4: or the you know, the aggressor what color is the victim.

96
00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,320
Speaker 4: That's the thing that matters the most. And it's toxic

97
00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,360
Speaker 4: and it's gross and it's wrong.

98
00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,040
Speaker 2: It's the foundation of identity politics. I'll go a step further.

99
00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,920
Speaker 2: If that happened, the hypothetical that you just gave, no

100
00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,760
Speaker 2: no one would even know it happened because no media

101
00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,200
Speaker 2: would cover it. I mean, there are stories every day

102
00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,440
Speaker 2: where white people are victims of black violence, where Asian

103
00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,200
Speaker 2: people are victims of black violence, and the story just

104
00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,279
Speaker 2: goes away. And if you're out there and you're saying,

105
00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400
Speaker 2: what are you talking about, remember the end Asian hate thing?

106
00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,320
Speaker 4: Stop it stop Asian, Stop Asian. It was a huge

107
00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,679
Speaker 4: deal until they realized that ninety percent of the people

108
00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,040
Speaker 4: attacking the Asians were black.

109
00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the story disappeared. Story

110
00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,240
Speaker 2: just vanished, storied all over the country. Asian people are

111
00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,839
Speaker 2: getting attacked. Man, the rate of Asian violent crime is

112
00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,640
Speaker 2: off the charts. And then they started to realize who

113
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,120
Speaker 2: was getting arrested. It was overwhelmingly black men, and they

114
00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,320
Speaker 2: just said, yeah, this Asian hate thing's not that big

115
00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,880
Speaker 2: of a deal. They just stopped covering it. So if

116
00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,720
Speaker 2: your scenario happened, it's not just that the first of all,

117
00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,120
Speaker 2: there would be no charges brought.

118
00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,800
Speaker 1: The media wouldn't even cover it.

119
00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,200
Speaker 2: This is why when they go or and they I hope,

120
00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,440
Speaker 2: I hope that their legitimacy is so destroyed that they

121
00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,800
Speaker 2: can't do this anymore. But do you remember when they

122
00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,360
Speaker 2: would go around at the protest, there were some honest

123
00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,600
Speaker 2: media and they would ask people, hey, how.

124
00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,160
Speaker 1: Many police do you think?

125
00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760
Speaker 2: How many black men do you think gets shot and

126
00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,520
Speaker 2: killed by police every year? And they would ask people

127
00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,920
Speaker 2: at these protests and they would say like, oh, one

128
00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,120
Speaker 2: hundred thousand, ten thousand, like as if it were always happening.

129
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,760
Speaker 2: And the data reflects that seventy five percent of people

130
00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,160
Speaker 2: that are shot and killed by police are white, Asian

131
00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,240
Speaker 2: or Hispanic and people, so twenty five percent or black,

132
00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400
Speaker 2: but people had no idea that there were anybody else

133
00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 2: getting shot by police. And this ties in buck because

134
00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,800
Speaker 2: the data reflects that CNN and MSNBC's audiences have collapsed

135
00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,080
Speaker 2: I think that finally people are aware that they've been

136
00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,200
Speaker 2: taken advantage of in terms of the stories that are

137
00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080
Speaker 2: being selected and whether they're representative or not of the

138
00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,720
Speaker 2: real world.

139
00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:11,320
Speaker 4: Clay I spoke to Richie McGuinness for the buck Brief podcast,

140
00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,600
Speaker 4: which is one of our podcast offerings in the network.

141
00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,080
Speaker 4: It's really interesting talking to him actually because he's he

142
00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,360
Speaker 4: covered He was there during the Writtenhouse shooting. I mean

143
00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 4: right there, had video of Kyle Rittenhouse right before it,

144
00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,960
Speaker 4: so he was at A bullet actually whizzed past him,

145
00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,360
Speaker 4: So he was right there for that. He was there

146
00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,439
Speaker 4: covering events on January sixth. He was there for a

147
00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,400
Speaker 4: lot of the BLM riots. And when you were when

148
00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:42,480
Speaker 4: you recall how just horrifically nihilistic and destructive some of

149
00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,280
Speaker 4: those BLM riots where they burned down a police station

150
00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,920
Speaker 4: in Minneapolis. Nothing. You know, who's serving thirty years in

151
00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,679
Speaker 4: prison for that? By the way, you know what I mean,

152
00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,600
Speaker 4: who is getting the book thrown at them for burning

153
00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,120
Speaker 4: down like some insurgency burning down the police station? And Clay,

154
00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,800
Speaker 4: this is this is they're saying because a black man

155
00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,520
Speaker 4: was killed by a white police officer. The Washington Post

156
00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,920
Speaker 4: zone numbers show. This happens fifteen times, perhaps a year,

157
00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,600
Speaker 4: and that doesn't mean that in every case the cop,

158
00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,840
Speaker 4: by the way has acted wrongly. Just unarmed black man

159
00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,160
Speaker 4: killed by white police officer. It's fifteen times a year,

160
00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,960
Speaker 4: thirty times more people in the United States, as a

161
00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:28,120
Speaker 4: matter of numbers, pure numbers die from beastings than unarmed

162
00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,080
Speaker 4: minorities are killed by police in a country of three

163
00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,400
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million. And they burned down neighborhoods and

164
00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,040
Speaker 4: caused billions of dollars of damage and needed to have

165
00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,600
Speaker 4: a national racial reckoning. This was insane. The whole thing

166
00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,800
Speaker 4: was completely insane.

167
00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and I got I pulled this data because I

168
00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,920
Speaker 2: think it ties in. We have millions of people who listen.

169
00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 2: We are thankful for you all over the country every

170
00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,440
Speaker 2: single day, and we enjoy spending our time with you.

171
00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,840
Speaker 2: Our numbers continue to grow, I think because over time, basically,

172
00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,920
Speaker 2: media is a test do you trust this person or

173
00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,240
Speaker 2: do you not. The last week of November, which is

174
00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,800
Speaker 2: the last full week we have data for MSNBC, had

175
00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,440
Speaker 2: only twenty nine thousand viewers buck in the age of

176
00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,200
Speaker 2: twenty five to fifty four bracket, which is by far

177
00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:31,160
Speaker 2: the most valuable advertising bracket. CNN had forty one thousand viewers.

178
00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,800
Speaker 2: That's less than would be in an average football stadium.

179
00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,160
Speaker 2: They've collapsed, and I think it's because of arguments like

180
00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,840
Speaker 2: the one that Audie Cornish made. It's just as honest,

181
00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,040
Speaker 2: and I do give CNN credit because Scott Jennings reacted

182
00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,559
Speaker 2: and explained the difference as well. So at least CNN

183
00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,800
Speaker 2: has some people who are willing to call out the

184
00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,120
Speaker 2: more absurd arguments that are made. Listen to cut seven

185
00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,760
Speaker 2: in case you needed to wonder what is the difference

186
00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,440
Speaker 2: between a innocent healthcare executive being shot and killed in

187
00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,679
Speaker 2: cold blood and Daniel Penny trying to protect people on

188
00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,959
Speaker 2: the subway from a crazy man who's threatening violence. To listen,

189
00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,400
Speaker 2: if you're on the American left tonight, here's my chart.

190
00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,719
Speaker 2: The good guys today, Daniel Penny, the bad guys. Luigi Man.

191
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,240
Speaker 2: I think he ought to get metal.

192
00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,760
Speaker 4: I think they ought to build a statute of this

193
00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,880
Speaker 4: guy in New York City.

194
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:27,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say it.

195
00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say the dreddit our word race plays a

196
00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,160
Speaker 5: role in this, right and so we see it, Yes, absolutely,

197
00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:41,880
Speaker 5: because wasn't when people kill people who are white, they

198
00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 5: tend to get harsher sentences, especially.

199
00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,800
Speaker 4: If they're people of cold What about the Georgia our

200
00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,839
Speaker 4: criminal justice system.

201
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,240
Speaker 1: First, I'm not going to stop.

202
00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,960
Speaker 4: Because race absent.

203
00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,160
Speaker 2: I gave Jennings credit, but actually CNN just went down

204
00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,280
Speaker 2: the racial rabbit hole, which is one hundred percent dishonest,

205
00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,680
Speaker 2: as the data all reflects. And so this is why

206
00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,840
Speaker 2: I think their audience has finally collapsed. All the lies

207
00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,920
Speaker 2: that they've told building up through COVID first Trump term,

208
00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,600
Speaker 2: people finally have tuned out, and I think there is

209
00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:22,560
Speaker 2: a panic setting in over these businesses, which is what

210
00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,920
Speaker 2: MSNBC and CNN are make no mistake, their media businesses,

211
00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,000
Speaker 2: all of them collapsing.

212
00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,360
Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls, will react.

213
00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,520
Speaker 2: Also, I love that Trump has said he is officially

214
00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,600
Speaker 2: going to end birthright citizenship. We want to play some

215
00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,480
Speaker 2: of that. That was in an interview for Meet the Press.

216
00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,440
Speaker 2: In the meantime, this holiday season, Tuntle of Towers is

217
00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,120
Speaker 2: delivering dozens of mortgage free homes to deserving recipients across

218
00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,080
Speaker 2: the country. During its Season of Hope, Tuntle the Towers

219
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,360
Speaker 2: welcomed US Army Captain David Christopher into his mortgage free

220
00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,840
Speaker 2: smart home. During a prior Season of Hope, David sustained

221
00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,640
Speaker 2: severe injuries in an accident the day before he was

222
00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,800
Speaker 2: set to deploy to South Korea. David set a mortgage

223
00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,760
Speaker 2: free smart home from Tunnel to Towers enabled him to

224
00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,720
Speaker 2: help other veterans he fills his purpose in his life

225
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,280
Speaker 2: is to help others.

226
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:07,680
Speaker 1: He said.

227
00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,680
Speaker 2: Receiving a smart home made him feel appreciated for the

228
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,640
Speaker 2: first time for his military service. He intends to pay

229
00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,480
Speaker 2: it forward and continue to help others in similar situations.

230
00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,080
Speaker 2: The Season of Hope campaign our opportunity to stand united

231
00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,560
Speaker 2: and make a difference in the lives of those who

232
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,880
Speaker 2: sacrifice so much for our safety and freedom. Help heroes

233
00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,959
Speaker 2: and their families now. Donate eleven dollars a month to

234
00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,800
Speaker 2: Tunnel to Towers at T two t dot org. That's

235
00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,319
Speaker 2: t the number two t dot org Saving America one

236
00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,080
Speaker 2: thought at a time. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

237
00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,920
Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

238
00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,160
Speaker 6: get your podcasts.

239
00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,880
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in. We're talking about the situation

240
00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,000
Speaker 4: that has unfolded in Syria and also how the incoming

241
00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,720
Speaker 4: Trump administration is going to be handling the Middle East

242
00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,680
Speaker 4: will dive into this. Tulci Gabbard, a former Democrat member

243
00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,120
Speaker 4: of con or some Hawaii and a veteran, is now

244
00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,679
Speaker 4: slated to be Trump's Director of National Intelligence. Very curious

245
00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,319
Speaker 4: to see what she's able to do in that role.

246
00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,760
Speaker 4: I am very much unconvinced that the d n I

247
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,000
Speaker 4: as a role should exist. That has nothing to do

248
00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,680
Speaker 4: with Tulcy Gabbert. It's just there's you know, it's just

249
00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,360
Speaker 4: like creating an umbrella atop all these other unwieldy agencies.

250
00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,200
Speaker 4: Maybe she can fix this, maybe she can do something

251
00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,520
Speaker 4: about it. But on the issue of Siria specifically, you've

252
00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,360
Speaker 4: had jihadists, effectively Islamist people are going to use a

253
00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:42,880
Speaker 4: lot of different terms, but radical Islamic militants have over

254
00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,960
Speaker 4: have taken over the country. I mean, Assad fled, his army, crumbled,

255
00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,040
Speaker 4: didn't even really fight. It's all over. Sod's now in

256
00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,119
Speaker 4: russia's going to be doing the eye doctor thing. Apparently

257
00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,400
Speaker 4: he's an ophthalmologist, so he's going to be, you know,

258
00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,000
Speaker 4: helping people get their bifocals or whatever in in Moscow.

259
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,840
Speaker 4: And there's a big question as to what happens in Syria,

260
00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 4: and now that you've got the guy effectively running Syria

261
00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 4: is a former I don't know how former you can

262
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,840
Speaker 4: really be when it comes to this, but a former

263
00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360
Speaker 4: member of al Qaeda. That's not encouraging. I think that's

264
00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,640
Speaker 4: fair to say. That's pretty concerning. Tulsea Gabbard, though, spoke

265
00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,560
Speaker 4: out on how Trump views this situation, and this matters

266
00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,960
Speaker 4: because she's going to be atop the intel community. This

267
00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,760
Speaker 4: is sixteen play.

268
00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,920
Speaker 7: I want to address the issue that's in the headlines

269
00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,320
Speaker 7: right now. I stand in full support and will hardly

270
00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,640
Speaker 7: agree with the statements that President Trump has made over

271
00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,440
Speaker 7: these last few days with regards to the developments in Syria.

272
00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,440
Speaker 2: My own views.

273
00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,360
Speaker 7: And experiences have been shaped by my multiple deployments and

274
00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,120
Speaker 7: seeing firsthand the cost of war on the threat of

275
00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,560
Speaker 7: Islamist terrorism. It's one of the many reasons why I

276
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,560
Speaker 7: appreciate President Trump's leadership and his election, where he is

277
00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,880
Speaker 7: fully committed, as he has said over and over, to

278
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 7: bring about an end to wars, demonstrating peace through strength,

279
00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,560
Speaker 7: and putting the national security interests and the safety, security,

280
00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 7: and freedom of the American people first and foremost.

281
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,440
Speaker 4: Now, nothing wrong with anything she said there I appreciate

282
00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,880
Speaker 4: all the sentiments. What do we do, if anything, about

283
00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,600
Speaker 4: Assyria that is now run by Gihantists. Nothing until we

284
00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,360
Speaker 4: have to hopefully nothing is what we're able to continue

285
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,960
Speaker 4: to do or what we'll be able to do.

286
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,120
Speaker 2: I think the question I want to get your take

287
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,360
Speaker 2: on this because I'm in Israel right now, and this

288
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,440
Speaker 2: has obviously been a huge story all over the world,

289
00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,760
Speaker 2: but particularly here because they border Syria. We've got the

290
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:46,880
Speaker 2: issues with fighting Hezbola and Lebanon and Gaza. Obviously with

291
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,960
Speaker 2: the terror attack that happened on October seventh. All of

292
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,400
Speaker 2: that has been funded by Iran. The Ayatola is not

293
00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,560
Speaker 2: in good health reportedly, and he's elderly. Lot of people

294
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,680
Speaker 2: forget what Iran was like before the Islamic Revolution in

295
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,880
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine.

296
00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,120
Speaker 1: How much of.

297
00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,480
Speaker 2: Siria's collapse is also tied to the decline in Iran

298
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,200
Speaker 2: and is now I think this is the big debate

299
00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,480
Speaker 2: that they're having in the Trump administration. Is now the

300
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 2: time to exert maximum pressure on Iran, potentially including major

301
00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,800
Speaker 2: strikes on their nuclear capabilities, in order to try to

302
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 2: once and for all end their power grip on much

303
00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,800
Speaker 2: of the Middle East. That I think is what they

304
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 2: are debating because Iran rose with Joe Biden in office

305
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,119
Speaker 2: and the power seemed ascendant, and now all of a

306
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,680
Speaker 2: sudden everything has collapsed around them. They're really the straw

307
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,480
Speaker 2: that stirs the proverbial drink in the Middle East. Right now,

308
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,360
Speaker 2: what happens next, we'll talk about it. Price picks continues

309
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,399
Speaker 2: to be the best place to get real money sports

310
00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 2: action while watching games. You can make your holidays bigger

311
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,919
Speaker 2: and brighter with Prize Picks. You can win up to

312
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 2: two hundred times your money on Prize Picks. Download the

313
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,119
Speaker 2: app today, open a free account.

314
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:08,760
Speaker 1: Buck.

315
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 2: I promise this week I'm gonna be out on Friday,

316
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 2: but I am going to get you picks, and you

317
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,679
Speaker 2: were gonna have to read them. Should be able to

318
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,560
Speaker 2: get it done. I've been traveling on both Fridays. But

319
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,160
Speaker 2: if you just want to be entertained and you want

320
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,199
Speaker 2: to see whether or not Buck can read the picks

321
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 2: that I am going to give, go ahead and get

322
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,199
Speaker 2: signed up right now. You get fifty dollars when you

323
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,360
Speaker 2: play five dollars. Use my name Clay. All you need

324
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,240
Speaker 2: to do is go to prizepicks dot com. Code Clay.

325
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,000
Speaker 2: You can get hooked up. They have incredible Christmas offers

326
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,840
Speaker 2: for all of you. That's prizepicks dot Com Code Clay.

327
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 2: Download the app today. We'll see if Buck can read

328
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 2: the picks. Prize picks dot Com Code Clay.

329
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 1: Walking back again, Clay.

330
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 2: Travis Buck Sexton show a big story over the weekend

331
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 2: may prove to be big for some time to come.

332
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 2: Syria loses, as Buck pointed out, Asad the son of

333
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: the initial dictator.

334
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: This one was not expected to be the follow up.

335
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 1: His older brother died in.

336
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 2: A car accident, I believe, and so this Assad, who

337
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 2: was an eye doctor in Europe, ended up the dictator

338
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 2: of a Middle Eastern country forced out. There now is

339
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: a power vacuum in Syria. Buck, what's the right thing

340
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 2: to do for Donald Trump as he comes in in

341
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 2: regards to the Middle East? The hostages are a huge story.

342
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm in Israel right now. They're over one hundred of them.

343
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 2: I toured the Kibbutz, one of them that was run

344
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 2: over and attacked. I was at the Nova Dance, the

345
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 2: music festival where over four hundred young people were killed

346
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 2: on October seventh. I have toured all all these different

347
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 2: places with our friends at the IFCJ. I'm here until

348
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 2: we're doing the show Wednesday and Thursday. Also from Israel,

349
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down tomorrow with the speaker of the basically

350
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: the House in Israel. He's the number three overall politician.

351
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk about Syria, but doesn't it

352
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: all come back to Iran and the decision that the

353
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 2: Trump team is going to have to make regarding what

354
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 2: to do about their nuclear ambition.

355
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 1: Isn't that to me?

356
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: That's really You can talk about all these smaller countries, yes,

357
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 2: Lebanon and Hamas, but they're really all funded by Iran,

358
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: which is the big dog in the Middle East.

359
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: Right now, What should the Trump team be doing? In

360
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: your mind?

361
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 4: I think the Trump team is going to do a

362
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 4: lot of what we saw in the first four years

363
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 4: when it comes to foreign policy. Foreign policy for the

364
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 4: Trump administration one point zero term one was one of

365
00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 4: the clear bright spots. Really, I don't know if unassailable

366
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 4: is the word, but it's something close to that. The

367
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 4: fact that no foreign wars started. I mean, I think

368
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 4: on a foreign policy alone scope, you'd have to give

369
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 4: Trump an a I mean, maybe the kind of person

370
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 4: who doesn't believe in given an a you maybe give

371
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 4: Hi an a minus. There were a number of things

372
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 4: you could point to you to back this up. I

373
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 4: would just note, though, the biggest thing is no new wars,

374
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 4: not getting involved in foreign conflicts. Our whole generation Clay

375
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: has millions of people who served in these wars. And

376
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: what was once termed the GWATT the Global War on Terror,

377
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 4: and then the Obama administration came in, and I truly

378
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: can't even remember. I was in the CIA when they

379
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 4: came in in two thousand and eight or two thousand

380
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: and nine rather, and I don't even remember what they

381
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 4: wanted to call it, but it was something like overseas

382
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 4: contingency operations against foreign extremist elements. I mean, it was

383
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 4: the craziest, longest thing because they were trying to be

384
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 4: PC and when dealing with the head chopping suicide, vest

385
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: maniacs of AQI and the Taliban and Connie Network, etc.

386
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 4: So Trump, I think, will return to a lot of

387
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: what we saw, which is a first and foremost, do

388
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: no harm to our troops and to our interests. Don't

389
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 4: put them in harm's way without there being an absolutely

390
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 4: necessary cause. Trump destroyed Isis, as we remember very rapidly,

391
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: by allowing the military to do what they needed to

392
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: do on the Middle East. Now, I think Trump is

393
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: actually in a stronger He's inheriting a stronger position than

394
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: anybody has in the post nine to eleven era. I

395
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 4: really believe that the failures of the Iran nuclear deal,

396
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 4: I think are apparent to anybody who is paying attention.

397
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: Giving Iran more leeway, giving the Molas more money was

398
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: a disaster. It did not make them more willing to

399
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 4: play ball with the international community and stop being the

400
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: biggest supporter of terror. The best thing that's happened is

401
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 4: Israel has largely defanged the Iranian serpent through Hamas and

402
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: Hezbela being reduced as fighting forces to the lowest strength

403
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 4: in decades. Clay, at this point, I'm sure you're seeing

404
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: and hearing a lot about this from the people that

405
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: you're on the ground there with in Israel. But taking

406
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 4: the fight to Hamas and to Hesbela in the way

407
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 4: that Israel has, whether it's the Pager operation, the operations

408
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: in Gaza, major military operations there, this opens the doorway

409
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: to I think, much more lasting diplomatic agreements and a

410
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: forward moving Middle East, because Iran is far less capable

411
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 4: to extend its tentacles and strangle these things. So you

412
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: might have the Gulf States moving more toward Israel, which

413
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 4: I think would be a very good thing. I think

414
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 4: you could have Egyptian Israeli relations moving in the right direction.

415
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: So what does Trump do? I mean, there's a lot

416
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: we're talking to the Middle East. We could obviously do

417
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 4: a sho on this every day, a whole show on it.

418
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: But what does Trump do? I think He's got good

419
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: people in place, Mark or Rubio is a solid and

420
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 4: experienced foreign policy hand at Secretary of State, and he's

421
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 4: going to back Israel in our allies and answer the

422
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: fundamental question about foreign relations, which is your allies should

423
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: know who they are and be treated as such. Your

424
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: enemy should know who they are and be treated as such.

425
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 4: And that's the way Trump is going to going to

426
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: deal with it. So I think that there's a very

427
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: I think that the outlook in the Middle East, for

428
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 4: despite all the bloodshed and the atrocity of October seventh

429
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 4: against Israel, now going forward there's a greater opportunity for

430
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: stability than we've seen.

431
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: In a while.

432
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: With the exception of Syria. I am very concerned about

433
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: the trajectory of Syria right now, which I know is

434
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: something that's also on the radar of the people that

435
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 4: you are talking to in Israel. So one of the

436
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 4: challenges with all of these situations is we seem to

437
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: always believe that things can only get better, and oftentimes

438
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 4: you can replace someone who is bad with someone who

439
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: is worse, and there's never, really, it feels to me,

440
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: a recognition of that danger. For instance, Iraq seems to

441
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: have calmed down now, but for some time the situation was, Oh,

442
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: if we replace Saddam Hussein, Iraq's gonna be fine. We're

443
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: going to create a laboratory for democracy and the Middle

444
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: East will completely change.

445
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: And that didn't happen. Right.

446
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: We spent trillions of dollars of taxpayer money, We wasted thousands,

447
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: unfortunately lives for a situation that did not materially change

448
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: the overall trajectory of the Middle East, at least so far.

449
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: My wonder is, is now the time to really put

450
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: the pressure on the Ayatola and try and wipe out

451
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: Iran's ability to get a nuclear weapon, because if they

452
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: get nuclear weapon, they're gambling that they're going to be

453
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: in a position where nobody can mess with them. That's

454
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: why North Korea wants nuclear weapons. That's why Russia has them.

455
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: They have right, Russia has them, Yeah, but that's why

456
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: Ukraine wishes that they hadn't given them up, which in

457
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: very little discussion about the fact that Ukraine gave up

458
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: its nuclear weapons, and we said, we'll always protect you Ukraine,

459
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: and then Ukraine gets invaded and they're.

460
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Kind of on their own right.

461
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: If you could go back in time, I bet Ukraine

462
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: wishes they had kept all the nuclear weapons they had,

463
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: and I bet Russia wouldn't have invaded if they had done.

464
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: So my point is we could talk all the time

465
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: about democracy and then the flourishment of freedom, Ultimately there

466
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: has to be forced to back it up or else

467
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: it's all for naught, particularly in the Middle East.

468
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: So I think Trump is going to come in and

469
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: be a lot tougher on Iran. I think he should be.

470
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: I think the question is how tough should he be

471
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: and how far can he take it?

472
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: Because I think Iran, like you can talk about Syria,

473
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: I think Iran is close to revolting once the Ayatola

474
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: is gone and who knows what that country may look like. Historically,

475
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Iran was actually pre seventy nine. You may know better

476
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: than me, Buck, Like, I mean, for a Middle Eastern country,

477
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: the people had pretty basic human rights compared to what

478
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: they have now.

479
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: Well, it was far more western eyes. Women were walking

480
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: around in high heels and skirts at University of Tayaan

481
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: back in the sixties. I mean it was a yeah.

482
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: I mean, the the Islamist menace, you know, ran roughshot

483
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 4: with the Iranian Revolution and through the broader Middle East,

484
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 4: caused enormous suffering in a whole bunch of different countries.

485
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 4: So the question, though, becomes, does Israel strike the Iranian

486
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: nuclear reactors? This is something like the China going for

487
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: ti wand conversation that we've had it for so long

488
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: and so many iterations of it that I think it's

489
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: hard to think that it's any different right now than

490
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: it has been in the past. Or rather, when it happens,

491
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: we'll have spoken about it so much that it will

492
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: feel like a surprise because it'll be the thousandth time

493
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: we've gone through the discussion. But that would be a

494
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: major change in the region. And I think that the

495
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 4: reality is if the Israelis think they have the military

496
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: capability for it, which people assume these things, I don't know.

497
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: I mean I would, I would think the Israelis could

498
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: pull that off, although the Iranians have had a lot

499
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: of time to harden and hide their nuclear capabilities. I

500
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: think the Trump would back them on it if they

501
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: decided to go for it. And I think that the

502
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: proxy armies that Iran has been able to kind of

503
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: wave around as a threat against any Israeli action against

504
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: the nuclear program, they are a shadow of what they

505
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: used to be. So could we see that happen. Yeah,

506
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: but that's what we would call in the CIA or

507
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: I think people just say this in general in like

508
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: risk analysis, right, low probability, high impact. I think it's unlikely,

509
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: but if it did happen, it would be a really

510
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: big deal. The main thing that I think the Trump

511
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: administration is looking at when it comes to our military,

512
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: at least from what I'm hearing so far, is reforming

513
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: it and strengthening it internally and here and not using

514
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: it as some kind of a police and rebuilding foreign

515
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: nation's force in these particularly in these Muslim majority countries.

516
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: So I do not foresee them trying to get more

517
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: involved in the situation sereal, though I will point out,

518
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes the enemy gets a vote in these

519
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: things too. And Trump was leading the fight against ISIS

520
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: back in twenty sixteen as commander in chief. You have

521
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: an entity that's very similar to ISIS right now in ideology.

522
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, they would argue with that. But we'll see

523
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: that has just taken over the whole country of Syria,

524
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: right IS has had this corridor really in the east

525
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: and up along the border with Iraq in Syria. That's

526
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: why it was the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

527
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: Right now they've got the entire country, and the Israelis

528
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: are hitting stockpiles of munitions hoping that they don't fall

529
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: into the hands of these individuals. That's a pretty strong

530
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: thing to do. I mean, that's that's the Israelis engaged

531
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: in a real politique of yeah, I don't trust that

532
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: these guys aren't going to be a nightmare for us.

533
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: So that's this is the troubling change in the.

534
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: Dynamic over there.

535
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: And I'll just say that everybody who is either celebrating

536
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: or fear mongering on this, you know, we don't We

537
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: just don't know. I am more pessimistic about the future

538
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 4: of Syria than a lot of people right now who

539
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: are dancing in the streets and firing off AK forty

540
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: sevens in the air. But maybe I'm wrong, Probably not,

541
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: though probably not. I'm just throwing that out there, these

542
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: things that tend to be a little bit right. But

543
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: we'll see. Here's a gift idea for where all of

544
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: your family members of all ages comes from a company

545
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: that is doing great things with technology. Taking an old

546
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: school technology and made it the coolest thing you're gonna

547
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: get this holiday season by upgrading it and turning it

548
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 4: into something that you've never seen before. That's right, it's

549
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 4: walkie talkies, but on a nationwide LTE network. This company,

550
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 4: Rapid Radios, has these modern day walkie talkies. They are

551
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: souped up. They are incredible. I've got them, Clay's families

552
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: got them. They're so advanced compared to the walkie talkies

553
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: that you think of from the past. You can talk

554
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: to a family member with a push of the button,

555
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: or every family member at the same time. The distance

556
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: between you and the intended connection point doesn't matter. Anywhere

557
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: in the US, you can talk to relatives and friends

558
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: coast to coast, and that's the point of having these.

559
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: You can easily be in touch for a limited time.

560
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: We got a great deal for you on these incredible radios. Look,

561
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: if you want your kids to be able to have

562
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: instant communication with you that haven't rely on a something

563
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: that gets them on the Internet and all this other stuff,

564
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 4: Rapid Radio is amazing for elderly relatives you wanted to

565
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: be able to talk to you in real time. It's

566
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: like having an intercom, but it's across the whole country

567
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: for a limited time. Go to rapid radios dot com.

568
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: You'll get up to sixty percent off free ups shipping

569
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: for Michigan, plus a free protection bag. Add Code Radio

570
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: and get an extra five percent.

571
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: Off news you can count on and some laughs too.

572
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 6: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton find them on the free

573
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

574
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I want to

575
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: tell you to make sure this holiday season you are

576
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: checking out Crocket Coffee. My friends, you have subscriptions going

577
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: to be available soon, but give yourself the gift of

578
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: the most delicious coffee you're gonna find absolutely anywhere. Light

579
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: medium dark roast available. We've got decap whole being groundbean.

580
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: And not only is this the coffee company you are building,

581
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: but we give ten percent of the profits the Tunnel,

582
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: the Towers Foundation and subscribers. We love subscribers because you're

583
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: the people drinking the coffee every month. We love first

584
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: time ers too, if you just want to try it out.

585
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: But if you subscribe use Code Book, you get a

586
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: signed copy of American Playbook sent right to you, just

587
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: as our little thank you for becoming a new Crocket

588
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: Coffee subscriber. Think about you got that Clay Travis super

589
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: fan and your fam what are you gonna get them

590
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: for the holiday? Give yourself some Crocket Coffee subscription and

591
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: then you get the book and you can just give

592
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 4: the book, the signed copy of the book to that

593
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: family member and then you can all root for Alabama.

594
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Or Alabama season is over.

595
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: You're throwing some salt in the wound there, but you

596
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: can't get an incredible book. No, Alabama, they didn't make

597
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: the playoff. They came in thirteenth out of twelve made

598
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

599
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: I know, I legitimately did not know that. I thought

600
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: that was the safe bet. I thought that was the

601
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: team that would always be in at this point. So

602
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: I just messed that one up.

603
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: But Alabama used to be good at football. Now they're

604
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: more of a women's softball school. You know, everybody can't

605
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: be good at football. I mean it's just like this,

606
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: not everybody. But you know, again I think to Alabama

607
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: bucks suddenly, I just I mean again, it's important to

608
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: be good at a variety of things. Alabama used to

609
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: be good at football. Now they're good at women's college softball.

610
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean again, they are women's college softball school.

611
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that.

612
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a lovely sport. But if

613
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: you want an autograph copy of my book, you could.

614
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: You can go to Crocketcoffee dot com. We'll be opening

615
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: a Crocket Coffee in Tuscaloosa and we will have zero

616
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: customers tomorrow. Uh, but Crocketcoffee dot com and you get

617
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: an autograph copy of my book.

618
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: We got stuff out there, Yes, Oh, you got some

619
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: funny stuff. No, go ahead, I I was gonna be

620
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: serious again, let's be funny. Go ahead, what have you got?

621
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, I was just gonna say.

622
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: I think maybe the best trolling that Trump is doing

623
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: right now since being re elected. Calling Justin Trudeau the

624
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: governor of Canada is next level funny. And if you've

625
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: missed the interplay, Trudeau got nervous because Trump has threatened

626
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: tariffs on both Canada and Mexico. He rushed down to

627
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: mar A Lago to go to a dinner, and Trump

628
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: joked with him at the dinner, Hey, if you're really

629
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: upset about the tariffs, you can just become a state.

630
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: That way you'll be inside of the United States. And

631
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: then Trudeau, you can become the governor of Canada instead

632
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: of the President of Canada. And that was reported and

633
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: people said, oh, I don't know if I believe that

634
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: that's not now. Trump late last night put up a

635
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: statement on truth Social where he said that he looked

636
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: forward to working with the governor of California, Justin Trudeau,

637
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: or Governor of Canada Justin Trudeau on the tariffs going forward.

638
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: And when you.

639
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: Combine that with what seemed like, sorry to steal from

640
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: Taylor Lorenz, but a joyful reunion of Trump and the

641
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: world leaders at the Notre Dame Cathedral. Like Trump's playing

642
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: with a lot of swagger right now, Buck, he doesn't

643
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: even seem that troubled by criticism. I think because he

644
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: won the popular vote and the criticism is just kind

645
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: of bouncing off of him. It's like he's got armor

646
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: right now. A confident Trump is the best version of Trump,

647
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: and there doesn't even seem to be very much opposition

648
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: to him.

649
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: As we talked about earlier.

650
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: Let's talk about some of what Trump has laid out recently,

651
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: including in an interview with Kristen Welker over the weekend Clay.

652
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: He's taken some big swings on the illegal immigration issue,

653
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: on birthright citizenship. We should discuss where some of these

654
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: policies are and what it would look like to hit

655
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: the ground on them, because inauguration is just a little

656
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: over a month away. We'll dive into it coming up

657
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: next