WEBVTT - *Bonus* Wu Tang: An American Saga 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.080 Based on the formation of the most influential group of 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.640 hip hop history, Woutang Clan in American Saga is now 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.639 streaming only on hu What's Up as Angela yef from 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.319 the Breakfast Club And if you know me, you know 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.640 I'm excited about this Woutang series coming to Hulu. Now, 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.120 let me give you some of my favorite Woutang memories. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.800 I got my start working in the music industry interning 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.600 for Woutang Management when I was in college, and then 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.959 when I graduated, my first job was working for Woutang Corporation. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.080 How I even got the job was crazy. So I 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.880 was coming from a job interview at Columbia Records, and 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.440 I was like, let me stop by the office and 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.959 say hi to the people I used to intern with. Well, 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.720 when I got there, it was the same day that 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.160 they were doing a huge concert in New York City 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.040 and things went left on the concert. The guys got 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.080 on stage and they started cursing out the host of 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.960 the radio station, and they actually ended up getting banned 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.400 from the station after that, And that band was on 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.040 for years. But it just told you how Woutang really 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.800 didn't give an f about anybody. They were just going 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.600 to do what they were doing. His risen in mathematics, 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.160 describing how the legendary logo came about mathematics. You created 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:06.000 the wootang logo. Yeah, yeah, that's a dope shot too. Yeah, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.320 I got a lot of wood tank. Thank you for 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.360 the wilet. Rizzen came in here with gifts. How do 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.000 you come up with the logo? What was? How do 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.000 you think of that? One? Actual logo actually came just 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.400 one night. God called me, was like, yo, getting these 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.600 joints punting up, punting it up tomorrow. I need I 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.440 need a logo tomorrow. So I was like, worried tomorrow. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.479 So I came home from work. I was like all right, 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.120 I sat on the floor on the living room floor, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.200 just started came up, came up with what I came 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.640 up with. So I just remember, you know, we discussed 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.720 a few things, you know what I mean, that's editing 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.080 and all that. But yeah, and then who was the 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.479 first person you showed the rizzo? Yeah, okay, they came 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.400 up to the job. Him goes power and divine. I 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.039 remember all of them looking at it like bad because 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.080 I this is it and it was this right here 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.080 this w yeah, wow, all of the wootang merchant. As 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.440 we see, I can targeting everywhere. Like who gets the 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.200 money for that? That goes to the company. I mean 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.000 law man did joy. But how much I paid you 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.400 for that back then? M bucks something like that. Jesus, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.519 Jesus ya at the time that was happening at the time. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.160 That was half my rent money. And so I mean 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.760 he enjoyed it, but you know it was you know 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.480 it was it was a paid for a service, you 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.519 know what I mean. So it's owned by the company. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.400 I owned the company, so the majority of it goes 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.520 to the company, all the licenses and everything. So y'all 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.320 reach forever off a logo. Yeah, mathematics, you want to renegotiate. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.919 So the Nike guy did the Nike logo for two 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.200 hundred and fifty dollars. Here's you guy talking about how 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.080 the Woo was formed? How did the WU ting form? Well, 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.919 that was that's a crazy situation because we always was 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.399 together some form of fashion. You know, when when when 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.639 Jesus with Genius and Rizzard comes to the hill, it 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.240 comes to the OO building. They come with six Steven 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.000 went in front of the OO building. Me me math uh, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.040 you know dak Kappa used to live in the building, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.520 so that was our little building and raised the right 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.720 the building the course right right right next to it. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.560 But he had his gate, you know, him and Power 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.040 had the gate in the unto twenty five. So Ray 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.280 had to go when he was hustling, he had to 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.040 go all around, drop his little bombs off, and come 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.680 allay back whatever he was doing. I'm saying so, but 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.440 when they used to come to the hill, we used 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.880 to drop everything going back, drink ballence time with me, 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.680 Dirty Genius and Wristle. We're just going back and just 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.720 start versing and just chilling in. You know. It was 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.600 it was that was our brothers back there. You and 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.600 Math really had a very special relationship, and you focused 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.800 on that a lot. What I did like was you 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.160 talk about being a team player in the book, and 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.160 that's important for a lot of people, I think in 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.160 life in general. Because you knew, Okay, Math is not 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.000 going to be doing this street stuff. He has all 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.880 this talent and he's working really hard for it. So 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.040 I'm gonna make sure he's good. But I'm gonna keep 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.120 doing what I'm doing because you felt like I have 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.680 to take care of my brother. Him and Dirty were 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.280 like out of here mentally when it comes to right 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.200 and rhymes and raps and on, and so I had 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.440 to had to protect him because he was stuf. He 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.960 was just that dude. And I always tell him like, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.880 yo dog, you got something, especially when he had an 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.320 old lady. They used to scream out the window to him, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:08.840 this is a note. This is a straight up story. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.720 He'll tell you the same thing. It's old as you know. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.880 She was an alcoholic whatever whatever, but she was a 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.600 good woman and she used to be out there within 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:19.479 him like sing for me, singer, to sing for me. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.240 And she used to be telling that the Meth. She said, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.400 you're gonna be a star. I used to be laughing 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.479 at him, like yo dog. She used to because but 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:26.880 every time we used to be on the block, she 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.120 was old, but I'm wanted to sing for me, singer. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.479 And then Meth start beating on his test, you know, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.640 doing his little routine and stuff like that, and they 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.599 used to make her day, you know, and she was 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.680 and she was right. But even just hearing how Cream 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.520 took off for you guys, basically the performance and the 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.400 money falling from the ceiling and then you said, the 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.760 song went gold within hours of you guys performing cream 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.480 Yeah yeah, and pride of that we was going to 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.320 be worried about he was gonna make it or not, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.320 you know, man. And then we already had all the 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.200 videos in the can. So when you know, we draw 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.880 cream offs into your hall. Next day we got the 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.320 the record reports. He was like, what just went because 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.640 he was already like a hundred twenty thousand sales with 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.680 his head spots and all this stuff he put out. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.120 He was already twentyth thousand sales. And soon as we 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.840 dropped that just jumped the fire hunting and just kept going. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.080 That's amazing how an appearance on our send of your 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.560 hall affected. That was the platform back then to this day. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.360 If you ever need, if he ever need, ain't anything. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.560 So he just hit me, DM me getting contact with me. Bro. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.480 You get anything, man, you get you know, from from 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.839 any brother man, anyone. Wou Tang, an American saga, is 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.159 inspired by the Wou Tang Manual and based on the 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.760 true story of the Wou Tang clan. Set in the 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.920 early nineties New York at the height of the crack 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.640 cocaine epidemic, The show tracks the Clan's formation, a vision 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.719 of Bobby Digg's aka The Rizzer, who unites the men 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.119 torn between music and crime, but eventually rise to become 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.960 the unlikeliest of American success stories. The show stars Ashton 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.839 Sanders as The Rizzer, as well as rappers Dave East 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.080 Player Met the Man, and Joey bad as Player and 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.400 Inspect the Deck. Woutang Klan and American Saga is now 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.680 streaming with new episodes every Wednesday only on Hulu. What's 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.600 Up as angela Ye from the Breakfast Club and if 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.960 you know me, you know I'm excited about this Boutang 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.560 series coming to Hulu. Now, let me give you some 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.640 of my favorite Woutang memories. I remember not knowing how 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.200 huge Boutang were as stars, just because I knew them 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.480 like my brothers. And one day metha Man asked me 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:22.920 to come at him to the bank when I was 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.880 in the office. Now he said we had to take 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.480 a cab, but the bank was only three blocks away, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.520 so I said, why are we taking a cab? Why 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.920 don't we just walk there? So I remember walking down 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.440 the street with meThe Man, and it took us like 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.680 two hours just to get to the bank because everybody 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.000 was stopping him on the street because those guys were 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.160 already huge superstars and I didn't even realize it. Here's 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.360 another great moment from our conversation with the cast of 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.839 the Wu Tang and American Saga now screaming only on 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.920 Hulu Erica. Is this Doctor series you think nostalgia for 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.000 the older generation or lessons for the younger generation both. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.480 That's a really good question. I think that narrative and 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.080 storytelling has always been hijacked by white men in studios 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.839 and told us our narrative in their history. And now 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.920 we have these street poets. We've grown up, and now 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.080 they are the heroes of our you know, older so 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.320 called you know, going into their forties and fifties and sixties. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:17.680 And then they're also um real sort of badasses for 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.640 the young people because we placed them up and they'll go, wow, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.400 it's like telling the story of Star Wars. You know, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.600 you had to be there, except you didn't have to 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.280 because it just keeps going on and on and on. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.240 So I think it's actually beautiful. It's like a full circle. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.120 But I the best thing about is that shows that 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.440 the narrative at least of this century will be told 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.920 by people of color. And um, I'm glad that Riza 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.000 is so good in communicating his story. We talked last 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.440 time we were here about our writing. You know, the 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:48.240 people who can write there there, they'll be eternal, you know. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.160 And and to me to write the stories of so 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.239 called American saga and be the new Waltons, that's power. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.360 What do you think Aston, what's the lesson of the 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:01.160 younger generation can learn from this story of of passionate 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.720 story of we kind of see the cultivation of you know, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.560 if you have a dream, you know, sticking with that, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.320 you know, like no matter what your circumstances are, you know, 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.800 like living through them or not letting your circumstances like 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.200 kind of define what the outcome is going to be. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.080 And so I think you just cut through this character 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.560 of Bobby. We watch all of that within the character. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.080 It's so specific to his life and his story. But 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:27.840 at the same time, I feel like it's something that 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:32.160 everybody's going to be able to be inspired by outside 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.000 of like the music. So I think that's going to 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.120 be though. Erica said something that made me think earlier 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.360 talking about like how they're making the movies of all 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.720 of our heroes that grew up in the nineties. Like 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.360 you think that's a good thing a bad thing, because 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.880 it's usually all celebrities are, it's all artists. You know, 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.360 we grew up on autobiography of malcaelm X and like 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.439 things that have like a real socially redeemed value. Not 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.959 saying that the Raptors didn't. But you think that's a 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.719 good thing a bad thing, that these are heroes. But 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:02.040 I think we valorize the things that that make us feel. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:07.280 And frankly, especially in that time, music became a source 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.200 of not only you know, of empowerment, but also how 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.480 we expressed our rage and our frustration. So if you 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.520 don't and if everybody shooting at each other, the thing 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:23.040 that you you might talk about um or remember, or 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.960 want to at least historically place your life in is 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.560 are these people who you may not know, but they 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.840 are telling the story of your real life. And frankly, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.240 I mean, if we look at what reporting and journally 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.520 you talk about journalism today, they weren't. I mean it 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.280 was it was bizarre. They were sort of telling us 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.680 who who they thought we were, and who they thought 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.800 we were were evil and drugged out and all this stuff. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.040 But then you look back and you see, I love 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.640 the character Sadiq Thoughtersho plays and he does it so well. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.920 He plays Dennis there he was taking care of two 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.720 of his brothers who where I had multiple corrosive yeahs 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:09.160 a child. He's reframing the narrative, and so that's why 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.000 I think it's really good to sort of come back. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.000 Sure it would be great to talk about other people 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.160 who are there, but you know, that's how it is. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.120 The media stole everything, and one thing it stole was 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.560 the fact that it stopped talking about people like James 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.720 Baldwin and it sort of gave us a narrative that 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.280 was only focused on people who were in the streets, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.880 because that's how it happens, even with all gangsters, the 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.040 gangster movies, the mafia. So that's what we're talking about. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:34.760 That's what you like this flick so well because you 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.439 see all sides. You know, I'm a huge utang fan, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.040 so I only see the side of the MPVs and 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.080 the things in the streets. That's what I agree with you. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.840 But nah, it's like I gravitated to the five percent, right, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.680 So you know, there's so many different things that people 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.360 gravitate to, you know. But you see the other side. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.360 You see ghosts taking care of his brothers, you know 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.520 what I mean, and wipe and his brother's lip. So 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.960 you see that sensitive side again that was so and so. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.240 But then you see ray on this side. So you 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.880 get to see all those sides. That's what I love 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.160 about it. Well, and also you think like you said 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.720 about you know, you know, you know Malcolm X and 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.680 the great heroes that inspired us right at the end 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.400 of the day though then you know that was the 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.880 sixties generation that inspired us who become the nineties generations? Right, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.640 We grew up in the seventy eighties and then our 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.400 voice comes out in the nineties. So it's it's actually, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.200 I think proper that the nineties is now the the 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.400 with the lenses at because no, there's there are a 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.480 lot of heroes that brought that message forward, you know 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.400 what I mean, that bought the audiology for that bought 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.360 the movement. You know, you think about, umlet's just talk 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.600 about you know, you look at Sonny Carson, right, remember, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.600 and then then he has his son, uh, the overseer 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.240 right right, and then you know we come into the 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.040 then we get the public enemy coming, you know what 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.960 I mean. It's like these people become the voices that 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.319 started from there. So I think it's really positive and 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.280 all reality that the that the that the lens is 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.800 being turned onto the nineties. Now we of course we 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.640 can find more than just the hip hop source of it, right, um. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.520 And and the beauty of it is that these heroes 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:24.640 or these people are not just linear. They're multi facet 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.880 you know what I mean. When University had did the 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:31.880 movie American Gangster, I was proud for the fact of this. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.200 I just want to say this out loud. And I 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.400 remember thinking one of the executives, he's like, I was like, yo, 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.720 you came to New York City spent over one hundred 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.040 million dollars, you know what I mean in about three months. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.840 All the Harlem silvias was full, was being sold out, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.040 all the food sold out, Brooklyn everything, everybody making money, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.320 ice cream trucks. Coun't keep ice scream on the trucks, right, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.720 because all this money has come to the city and 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.880 they were telling the story of a black man, even 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.320 though he was a drug dealer, it still was this 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.320 money is being spent on the story of the black 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.200 Man and now here we are on the ever where 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.560 it'll be spent on maybe a hip hop artist. I mean, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.160 you know, something to that nature that's that's a different 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.200 look at it, you know, and even the story that 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.719 I know, I'm here to promote our show, but when 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:26.800 I watched the Ava show, Um, yeah, it's like, yo, 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.080 that's a lot of money being spent on exposing a 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.120 truth that really equipped with our city, you know what 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.520 I mean? So I think I think you know these 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.040 writers and what we act right now, as they say 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.440 in Hollywood, I think that our lens is pointed at 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.120 the right direction and hopefully a lot more these stories 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.319 to get out. Now, what's the relationship with what? I know? 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.640 It was rocky at times, but it seemed like this 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.160 could have got everybody together because it was so many 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.640 different stories and reliving the nineties and reliving when y'all 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.959 were younger on that ground, what's the relationship now with everybody? 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.520 I mean, the relationship is is peace. You know, we know, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.320 you know, it's a brotherhood. So it's always you know, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.960 like you said, the up and down. Um, I think 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.040 more so than ever though, I think you know, at 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.520 this such mature age now, everybody is just letting everybody 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.319 live there, live there, Lane, you know what I mean. 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.439 So I'm a i'men. I've been making I'm been in 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.760 Hollywood for about thirteen years now. I mean, I right movies, yo, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.240 direct movies. That's what I do. It's like that's my 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.760 craft and so and so that's my job to tell 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.320 that part of the story, you know what I mean. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.880 Where where other brothers could be into, you know, whether 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.480 they're making songs or still. You know, Jill did this 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.240 this whole science show, but he loves science and mathematics, 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.600 and he goes to the schools and he older colleges 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.120 and do speeches. And you go up there and you 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.640 see Jill there telling us about they're trying to turn 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.360 light into liquid. Right, you're seeing this liquid science. Think 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.880 he does yo yo yo. It's it's like twelve episodes 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.680 on science hosted about the JUSTI on that Flix and 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.440 my son watched it and he was picking up wisdom 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.920 because he because he vold with it. So anyway, but 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.120 let me pass the mic. Woutang and American Saga is 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.320 inspired by the Woutang manual, set in early nineties New 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.560 York and the height of the crack cocaine epidemic to 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.760 show tracks to clans Formation, a vision of Bobby digs 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.320 Ak eight to Rizzo, who unice the men tone between 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.320 music and crime, but eventually rods to become the unlikeliest 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.080 of American success stories. The Wu Tang Clan has sold 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.760 forty million albums worldwide, and the group is often held 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.720 as one of the most influential groups in the history 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.120 of hip hop, with a unique sound and distinct image. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.160 Its producers include members of the Wu Tang Clan, Rizzle 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.120 and Mefi Man. Wou Tang and American Saga is now 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.440 Screaming with new episodes every Wednesday only on Hulu. What's 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.360 Up is angela Ye from the Breakfast Club And if 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.720 you know me, you know I'm excited about this Woutang 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.320 series coming to Hulu. Now, let me give you some 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.600 of my favorite Wou Tang memories. What I learned the 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.880 most from working for Wu Tang was just how important 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.400 it is to have your business together. I remember on 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.360 the back of my business card they were like ten 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.760 different businesses listed. So it wasn't just Woutang the group. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.880 It was Raised Sharp Records, Liquid Sort into Tayman thirty six, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.560 Chambers Studio, method Man Entertainment, Inspected Deck Entertainment, just a 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.040 whole lot of different companies. They definitely spread out, And 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.840 what I really like about it was it's not having 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.000 all your eggs in one basket. Wu Tang had their 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.680 artists signed to all the different labels, so it was 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.040 a great opportunity for them to spread out and get 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.000 that money. There's another great moment from our conversation with 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.120 the cast of the Wu Tang and American Saga now 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.880 screaming only on Hulu. There was no social media back then, 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.080 no no internet service like that. Back then, we didn't 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.560 have access to that, very little access to cell phones. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.160 So when you see it, I lived it, but I 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.440 didn't live that part of it. So like when I'm 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.360 watching it, because we got to see the first episode, 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.120 I'm sitting in and I thought ray Kuon and ghost 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:48.280 Face with breast friends from That's how I looked at them. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.320 But then when you watch and you'd be like, it 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.840 really almost killed each other, I'm like, that's crazy. How 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.280 did you I didn'tee the rest of the second second season, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.600 but second episode, how did you get them cool? Well? 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.880 And this and this is real yeah, well in all reality, right, 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.760 it's like, you know, Stapleton and park Kill just had this. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.240 I mean, the beef was was was from God's older 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:18.840 than me and and and yet you know, Staten Island 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.920 is still uh isolated island. One thing that Staton Alan did, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.119 I would say is that when we left Staten Island, 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.080 right and we go to Brooklyn or we go to 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:34.600 Sensations in Jersey, we did fight together. If you go 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.160 to the Square and you got some staton Alans in there, 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.040 even though we're from all different hoods, we always fought 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.520 together regardless. But then back on the Rock, it's like, yeah, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.920 it's all any enemies, you know what I mean. So, 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.440 but more importantly, you know, there was a common denominator, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.280 you know what I mean between me and the Woo 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.480 brothers and that common denominator. Um, it's something that helped 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.640 meilt that energy, you know what I mean. Um, And 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.359 you know, you know, just you know, not to give spoilers, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.040 but as you go through the show, you'll see some 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.200 of that common denominator evolved and answer some of the 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.440 questions like you know, because that's one of the challenges 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.000 that you know that Aston has to face his Bobby. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.879 You know, my favorite you know, one of my favorite 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.280 scenes is in the episode two which comes up next 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.720 when the when these confronted by shot. The SHOT's not 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.200 really fine, yeah right hey, and then he's he's just like, yo, Bobby, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.679 where's my gun? Son? Like yo, you let that stapid 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.240 tis nigga eat my food like you know, And and 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.919 and that kind of energy of of of of friendship 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.600 and then being pulled between you know, what's going on 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.600 with your friends and what's going on with your brother 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.920 or what's going on in the streets. That dynamic, I mean, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.439 that dynamic was strong then, but even that dynamic finds 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.680 itself and the equation these days, yeah, because it could 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.879 be business or personal. Yeah, and you never know, I like, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.520 you know sometimes you know, you know how that you 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.280 may come with the one thing about you know about 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.600 coming from the hood or come from I may have 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.480 a guy with me that's tight with me, but he 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.480 ain't tight with you, you know what I mean? Now 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.400 you see him, it's like, yo, but man, you tight. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:16.199 You know what I'm saying. I might not even know 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.800 that y'all signed two years ago my man's pockets, you 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.359 know what I mean? So all that kind of energy exists, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.320 and you know the show with the show that though 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.600 the show took a lot of time and how to 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.760 squeeze an egg, you know, like Ever was explaining. You 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.040 know when you go to my uh from outside of 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.320