1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Based on the formation of the most influential group of 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: hip hop history, Woutang Clan in American Saga is now 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: streaming only on hu What's Up as Angela yef from 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club And if you know me, you know 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this Woutang series coming to Hulu. Now, 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: let me give you some of my favorite Woutang memories. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: I got my start working in the music industry interning 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: for Woutang Management when I was in college, and then 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: when I graduated, my first job was working for Woutang Corporation. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: How I even got the job was crazy. So I 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: was coming from a job interview at Columbia Records, and 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I was like, let me stop by the office and 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: say hi to the people I used to intern with. Well, 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: when I got there, it was the same day that 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: they were doing a huge concert in New York City 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: and things went left on the concert. The guys got 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: on stage and they started cursing out the host of 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: the radio station, and they actually ended up getting banned 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: from the station after that, And that band was on 20 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: for years. But it just told you how Woutang really 21 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: didn't give an f about anybody. They were just going 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: to do what they were doing. His risen in mathematics, 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: describing how the legendary logo came about mathematics. You created 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the wootang logo. Yeah, yeah, that's a dope shot too. Yeah, 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: I got a lot of wood tank. Thank you for 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the wilet. Rizzen came in here with gifts. How do 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: you come up with the logo? What was? How do 28 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: you think of that? One? Actual logo actually came just 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: one night. God called me, was like, yo, getting these 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: joints punting up, punting it up tomorrow. I need I 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: need a logo tomorrow. So I was like, worried tomorrow. 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: So I came home from work. I was like all right, 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: I sat on the floor on the living room floor, 34 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: just started came up, came up with what I came 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: up with. So I just remember, you know, we discussed 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: a few things, you know what I mean, that's editing 37 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: and all that. But yeah, and then who was the 38 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: first person you showed the rizzo? Yeah, okay, they came 39 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: up to the job. Him goes power and divine. I 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: remember all of them looking at it like bad because 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I this is it and it was this right here 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: this w yeah, wow, all of the wootang merchant. As 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: we see, I can targeting everywhere. Like who gets the 44 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: money for that? That goes to the company. I mean 45 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: law man did joy. But how much I paid you 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: for that back then? M bucks something like that. Jesus, 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: Jesus ya at the time that was happening at the time. 48 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: That was half my rent money. And so I mean 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: he enjoyed it, but you know it was you know 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: it was it was a paid for a service, you 51 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's owned by the company. 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I owned the company, so the majority of it goes 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: to the company, all the licenses and everything. So y'all 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: reach forever off a logo. Yeah, mathematics, you want to renegotiate. 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: So the Nike guy did the Nike logo for two 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. Here's you guy talking about how 57 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: the Woo was formed? How did the WU ting form? Well, 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: that was that's a crazy situation because we always was 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: together some form of fashion. You know, when when when 60 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: Jesus with Genius and Rizzard comes to the hill, it 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: comes to the OO building. They come with six Steven 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: went in front of the OO building. Me me math uh, 63 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: you know dak Kappa used to live in the building, 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: so that was our little building and raised the right 65 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: the building the course right right right next to it. 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: But he had his gate, you know, him and Power 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: had the gate in the unto twenty five. So Ray 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: had to go when he was hustling, he had to 69 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: go all around, drop his little bombs off, and come 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: allay back whatever he was doing. I'm saying so, but 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: when they used to come to the hill, we used 72 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: to drop everything going back, drink ballence time with me, 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Dirty Genius and Wristle. We're just going back and just 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: start versing and just chilling in. You know. It was 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: it was that was our brothers back there. You and 76 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Math really had a very special relationship, and you focused 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: on that a lot. What I did like was you 78 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: talk about being a team player in the book, and 79 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: that's important for a lot of people, I think in 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: life in general. Because you knew, Okay, Math is not 81 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: going to be doing this street stuff. He has all 82 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: this talent and he's working really hard for it. So 83 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure he's good. But I'm gonna keep 84 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing because you felt like I have 85 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to take care of my brother. Him and Dirty were 86 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: like out of here mentally when it comes to right 87 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: and rhymes and raps and on, and so I had 88 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: to had to protect him because he was stuf. He 89 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: was just that dude. And I always tell him like, 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: yo dog, you got something, especially when he had an 91 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: old lady. They used to scream out the window to him, 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: this is a note. This is a straight up story. 93 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: He'll tell you the same thing. It's old as you know. 94 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: She was an alcoholic whatever whatever, but she was a 95 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: good woman and she used to be out there within 96 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: him like sing for me, singer, to sing for me. 97 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: And she used to be telling that the Meth. She said, 98 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a star. I used to be laughing 99 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: at him, like yo dog. She used to because but 100 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: every time we used to be on the block, she 101 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: was old, but I'm wanted to sing for me, singer. 102 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: And then Meth start beating on his test, you know, 103 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: doing his little routine and stuff like that, and they 104 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: used to make her day, you know, and she was 105 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: and she was right. But even just hearing how Cream 106 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: took off for you guys, basically the performance and the 107 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: money falling from the ceiling and then you said, the 108 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: song went gold within hours of you guys performing cream 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and pride of that we was going to 110 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: be worried about he was gonna make it or not, 111 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, man. And then we already had all the 112 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: videos in the can. So when you know, we draw 113 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: cream offs into your hall. Next day we got the 114 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: the record reports. He was like, what just went because 115 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: he was already like a hundred twenty thousand sales with 116 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: his head spots and all this stuff he put out. 117 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: He was already twentyth thousand sales. And soon as we 118 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: dropped that just jumped the fire hunting and just kept going. 119 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: That's amazing how an appearance on our send of your 120 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: hall affected. That was the platform back then to this day. 121 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: If you ever need, if he ever need, ain't anything. 122 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: So he just hit me, DM me getting contact with me. Bro. 123 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: You get anything, man, you get you know, from from 124 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: any brother man, anyone. Wou Tang, an American saga, is 125 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: inspired by the Wou Tang Manual and based on the 126 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: true story of the Wou Tang clan. Set in the 127 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: early nineties New York at the height of the crack 128 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: cocaine epidemic, The show tracks the Clan's formation, a vision 129 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: of Bobby Digg's aka The Rizzer, who unites the men 130 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: torn between music and crime, but eventually rise to become 131 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: the unlikeliest of American success stories. The show stars Ashton 132 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: Sanders as The Rizzer, as well as rappers Dave East 133 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: Player Met the Man, and Joey bad as Player and 134 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Inspect the Deck. Woutang Klan and American Saga is now 135 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: streaming with new episodes every Wednesday only on Hulu. What's 136 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Up as angela Ye from the Breakfast Club and if 137 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: you know me, you know I'm excited about this Boutang 138 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: series coming to Hulu. Now, let me give you some 139 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: of my favorite Woutang memories. I remember not knowing how 140 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: huge Boutang were as stars, just because I knew them 141 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: like my brothers. And one day metha Man asked me 142 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: to come at him to the bank when I was 143 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: in the office. Now he said we had to take 144 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: a cab, but the bank was only three blocks away, 145 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: so I said, why are we taking a cab? Why 146 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: don't we just walk there? So I remember walking down 147 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: the street with meThe Man, and it took us like 148 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: two hours just to get to the bank because everybody 149 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: was stopping him on the street because those guys were 150 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: already huge superstars and I didn't even realize it. Here's 151 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: another great moment from our conversation with the cast of 152 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: the Wu Tang and American Saga now screaming only on 153 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: Hulu Erica. Is this Doctor series you think nostalgia for 154 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: the older generation or lessons for the younger generation both. 155 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I think that narrative and 156 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: storytelling has always been hijacked by white men in studios 157 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: and told us our narrative in their history. And now 158 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: we have these street poets. We've grown up, and now 159 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: they are the heroes of our you know, older so 160 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: called you know, going into their forties and fifties and sixties. 161 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: And then they're also um real sort of badasses for 162 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: the young people because we placed them up and they'll go, wow, 163 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: it's like telling the story of Star Wars. You know, 164 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: you had to be there, except you didn't have to 165 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: because it just keeps going on and on and on. 166 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's actually beautiful. It's like a full circle. 167 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: But I the best thing about is that shows that 168 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the narrative at least of this century will be told 169 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: by people of color. And um, I'm glad that Riza 170 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: is so good in communicating his story. We talked last 171 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: time we were here about our writing. You know, the 172 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: people who can write there there, they'll be eternal, you know. 173 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: And and to me to write the stories of so 174 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: called American saga and be the new Waltons, that's power. 175 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: What do you think Aston, what's the lesson of the 176 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: younger generation can learn from this story of of passionate 177 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: story of we kind of see the cultivation of you know, 178 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: if you have a dream, you know, sticking with that, 179 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, like no matter what your circumstances are, you know, 180 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: like living through them or not letting your circumstances like 181 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: kind of define what the outcome is going to be. 182 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: And so I think you just cut through this character 183 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: of Bobby. We watch all of that within the character. 184 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: It's so specific to his life and his story. But 185 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like it's something that 186 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: everybody's going to be able to be inspired by outside 187 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: of like the music. So I think that's going to 188 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: be though. Erica said something that made me think earlier 189 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: talking about like how they're making the movies of all 190 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: of our heroes that grew up in the nineties. Like 191 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: you think that's a good thing a bad thing, because 192 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: it's usually all celebrities are, it's all artists. You know, 193 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: we grew up on autobiography of malcaelm X and like 194 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: things that have like a real socially redeemed value. Not 195 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: saying that the Raptors didn't. But you think that's a 196 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: good thing a bad thing, that these are heroes. But 197 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I think we valorize the things that that make us feel. 198 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: And frankly, especially in that time, music became a source 199 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: of not only you know, of empowerment, but also how 200 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: we expressed our rage and our frustration. So if you 201 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: don't and if everybody shooting at each other, the thing 202 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: that you you might talk about um or remember, or 203 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: want to at least historically place your life in is 204 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: are these people who you may not know, but they 205 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: are telling the story of your real life. And frankly, 206 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if we look at what reporting and journally 207 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: you talk about journalism today, they weren't. I mean it 208 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: was it was bizarre. They were sort of telling us 209 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: who who they thought we were, and who they thought 210 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: we were were evil and drugged out and all this stuff. 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: But then you look back and you see, I love 212 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the character Sadiq Thoughtersho plays and he does it so well. 213 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: He plays Dennis there he was taking care of two 214 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: of his brothers who where I had multiple corrosive yeahs 215 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: a child. He's reframing the narrative, and so that's why 216 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: I think it's really good to sort of come back. 217 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: Sure it would be great to talk about other people 218 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: who are there, but you know, that's how it is. 219 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: The media stole everything, and one thing it stole was 220 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: the fact that it stopped talking about people like James 221 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: Baldwin and it sort of gave us a narrative that 222 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: was only focused on people who were in the streets, 223 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: because that's how it happens, even with all gangsters, the 224 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: gangster movies, the mafia. So that's what we're talking about. 225 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: That's what you like this flick so well because you 226 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: see all sides. You know, I'm a huge utang fan, 227 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: so I only see the side of the MPVs and 228 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: the things in the streets. That's what I agree with you. 229 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: But nah, it's like I gravitated to the five percent, right, 230 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: So you know, there's so many different things that people 231 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: gravitate to, you know. But you see the other side. 232 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: You see ghosts taking care of his brothers, you know 233 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, and wipe and his brother's lip. So 234 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: you see that sensitive side again that was so and so. 235 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: But then you see ray on this side. So you 236 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: get to see all those sides. That's what I love 237 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: about it. Well, and also you think like you said 238 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: about you know, you know, you know Malcolm X and 239 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: the great heroes that inspired us right at the end 240 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: of the day though then you know that was the 241 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: sixties generation that inspired us who become the nineties generations? Right, 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: We grew up in the seventy eighties and then our 243 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: voice comes out in the nineties. So it's it's actually, 244 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: I think proper that the nineties is now the the 245 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: with the lenses at because no, there's there are a 246 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: lot of heroes that brought that message forward, you know 247 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, that bought the audiology for that bought 248 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: the movement. You know, you think about, umlet's just talk 249 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: about you know, you look at Sonny Carson, right, remember, 250 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and then then he has his son, uh, the overseer 251 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: right right, and then you know we come into the 252 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: then we get the public enemy coming, you know what 253 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like these people become the voices that 254 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: started from there. So I think it's really positive and 255 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: all reality that the that the that the lens is 256 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: being turned onto the nineties. Now we of course we 257 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: can find more than just the hip hop source of it, right, um. 258 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: And and the beauty of it is that these heroes 259 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: or these people are not just linear. They're multi facet 260 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When University had did the 261 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: movie American Gangster, I was proud for the fact of this. 262 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: I just want to say this out loud. And I 263 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: remember thinking one of the executives, he's like, I was like, yo, 264 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: you came to New York City spent over one hundred 265 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: million dollars, you know what I mean in about three months. 266 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: All the Harlem silvias was full, was being sold out, 267 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: all the food sold out, Brooklyn everything, everybody making money, 268 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: ice cream trucks. Coun't keep ice scream on the trucks, right, 269 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: because all this money has come to the city and 270 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: they were telling the story of a black man, even 271 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: though he was a drug dealer, it still was this 272 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: money is being spent on the story of the black 273 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: Man and now here we are on the ever where 274 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: it'll be spent on maybe a hip hop artist. I mean, 275 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, something to that nature that's that's a different 276 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: look at it, you know, and even the story that 277 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: I know, I'm here to promote our show, but when 278 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: I watched the Ava show, Um, yeah, it's like, yo, 279 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money being spent on exposing a 280 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: truth that really equipped with our city, you know what 281 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean? So I think I think you know these 282 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: writers and what we act right now, as they say 283 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, I think that our lens is pointed at 284 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: the right direction and hopefully a lot more these stories 285 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: to get out. Now, what's the relationship with what? I know? 286 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: It was rocky at times, but it seemed like this 287 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: could have got everybody together because it was so many 288 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: different stories and reliving the nineties and reliving when y'all 289 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: were younger on that ground, what's the relationship now with everybody? 290 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the relationship is is peace. You know, we know, 291 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a brotherhood. So it's always you know, 292 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: like you said, the up and down. Um, I think 293 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: more so than ever though, I think you know, at 294 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: this such mature age now, everybody is just letting everybody 295 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: live there, live there, Lane, you know what I mean. 296 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: So I'm a i'men. I've been making I'm been in 297 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood for about thirteen years now. I mean, I right movies, yo, 298 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: direct movies. That's what I do. It's like that's my 299 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: craft and so and so that's my job to tell 300 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: that part of the story, you know what I mean. 301 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Where where other brothers could be into, you know, whether 302 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: they're making songs or still. You know, Jill did this 303 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: this whole science show, but he loves science and mathematics, 304 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: and he goes to the schools and he older colleges 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: and do speeches. And you go up there and you 306 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: see Jill there telling us about they're trying to turn 307 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: light into liquid. Right, you're seeing this liquid science. Think 308 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: he does yo yo yo. It's it's like twelve episodes 309 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: on science hosted about the JUSTI on that Flix and 310 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: my son watched it and he was picking up wisdom 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: because he because he vold with it. So anyway, but 312 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: let me pass the mic. Woutang and American Saga is 313 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: inspired by the Woutang manual, set in early nineties New 314 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: York and the height of the crack cocaine epidemic to 315 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: show tracks to clans Formation, a vision of Bobby digs 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: Ak eight to Rizzo, who unice the men tone between 317 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: music and crime, but eventually rods to become the unlikeliest 318 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of American success stories. The Wu Tang Clan has sold 319 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: forty million albums worldwide, and the group is often held 320 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: as one of the most influential groups in the history 321 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: of hip hop, with a unique sound and distinct image. 322 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Its producers include members of the Wu Tang Clan, Rizzle 323 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: and Mefi Man. Wou Tang and American Saga is now 324 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Screaming with new episodes every Wednesday only on Hulu. What's 325 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Up is angela Ye from the Breakfast Club And if 326 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: you know me, you know I'm excited about this Woutang 327 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: series coming to Hulu. Now, let me give you some 328 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: of my favorite Wou Tang memories. What I learned the 329 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: most from working for Wu Tang was just how important 330 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: it is to have your business together. I remember on 331 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: the back of my business card they were like ten 332 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: different businesses listed. So it wasn't just Woutang the group. 333 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: It was Raised Sharp Records, Liquid Sort into Tayman thirty six, 334 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Chambers Studio, method Man Entertainment, Inspected Deck Entertainment, just a 335 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: whole lot of different companies. They definitely spread out, And 336 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: what I really like about it was it's not having 337 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: all your eggs in one basket. Wu Tang had their 338 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: artists signed to all the different labels, so it was 339 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for them to spread out and get 340 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that money. There's another great moment from our conversation with 341 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: the cast of the Wu Tang and American Saga now 342 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: screaming only on Hulu. There was no social media back then, 343 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: no no internet service like that. Back then, we didn't 344 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: have access to that, very little access to cell phones. 345 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: So when you see it, I lived it, but I 346 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: didn't live that part of it. So like when I'm 347 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: watching it, because we got to see the first episode, 348 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in and I thought ray Kuon and ghost 349 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Face with breast friends from That's how I looked at them. 350 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: But then when you watch and you'd be like, it 351 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: really almost killed each other, I'm like, that's crazy. How 352 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: did you I didn'tee the rest of the second second season, 353 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: but second episode, how did you get them cool? Well? 354 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: And this and this is real yeah, well in all reality, right, 355 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, Stapleton and park Kill just had this. 356 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the beef was was was from God's older 357 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: than me and and and yet you know, Staten Island 358 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: is still uh isolated island. One thing that Staton Alan did, 359 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: I would say is that when we left Staten Island, 360 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: right and we go to Brooklyn or we go to 361 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Sensations in Jersey, we did fight together. If you go 362 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: to the Square and you got some staton Alans in there, 363 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: even though we're from all different hoods, we always fought 364 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: together regardless. But then back on the Rock, it's like, yeah, 365 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: it's all any enemies, you know what I mean. So, 366 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: but more importantly, you know, there was a common denominator, 367 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean between me and the Woo 368 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: brothers and that common denominator. Um, it's something that helped 369 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: meilt that energy, you know what I mean. Um, And 370 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, you know, just you know, not to give spoilers, 371 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: but as you go through the show, you'll see some 372 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: of that common denominator evolved and answer some of the 373 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: questions like you know, because that's one of the challenges 374 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: that you know that Aston has to face his Bobby. 375 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: You know, my favorite you know, one of my favorite 376 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: scenes is in the episode two which comes up next 377 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: when the when these confronted by shot. The SHOT's not 378 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: really fine, yeah right hey, and then he's he's just like, yo, Bobby, 379 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: where's my gun? Son? Like yo, you let that stapid 380 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: tis nigga eat my food like you know, And and 381 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: and that kind of energy of of of of friendship 382 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: and then being pulled between you know, what's going on 383 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: with your friends and what's going on with your brother 384 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: or what's going on in the streets. That dynamic, I mean, 385 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: that dynamic was strong then, but even that dynamic finds 386 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: itself and the equation these days, yeah, because it could 387 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: be business or personal. Yeah, and you never know, I like, 388 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: you know sometimes you know, you know how that you 389 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: may come with the one thing about you know about 390 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: coming from the hood or come from I may have 391 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: a guy with me that's tight with me, but he 392 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: ain't tight with you, you know what I mean? Now 393 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: you see him, it's like, yo, but man, you tight. 394 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I might not even know 395 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: that y'all signed two years ago my man's pockets, you 396 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So all that kind of energy exists, 397 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: and you know the show with the show that though 398 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: the show took a lot of time and how to 399 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: squeeze an egg, you know, like Ever was explaining. You 400 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: know when you go to my uh from outside of 401 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the family and talking, you know, you only see him 402 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: four of the children. You can't put on laming children 403 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: in the TV show that the Waltons, I know, right, 404 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: but you know so so so we so you got 405 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: to condense, condense it and you gotta dramatize it the 406 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: way to make it all fit within a construct. How 407 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: did the other seven siblings feel about that? Though I 408 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: ain't no, this is this is yo. Everybody knows that 409 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: this is you know, this is art yo, and so 410 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: nobody well nobody didn't openly say nothing. They didn't see 411 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: the show yet either, but but they'll give you an example. 412 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: My brother Chamber is my oldest brother, right, his government 413 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: name is Randy um and so um. But I gave 414 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: that name to my younger brother and the show, you 415 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean, So, my my four younger brothers um, 416 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: I didn't use their names. I just used my older 417 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: brother and then my and then Sophie, who's my older sister. 418 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: But in the show, my sister is Shari, my younger sister, 419 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and so when I explained everything to my writer's room, 420 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: we was able to take both of their personalities emerged 421 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: right Solda, so that so the energy of that household 422 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: remains the same, you know, Sophie being the one who 423 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: has to take care of the kids and then Shari 424 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: being a younger one trying to find ourselves. And then 425 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: we emerged those two into one person and gave our 426 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: actress a lot to play with. It's a hard doing 427 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: period pieces now because listen, man, nineties hip hop eighties 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: was a totally different ball game. You know what I'm saying. 429 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things us as many didn't know. 430 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: You unlearned a lot of the BS behavior. So do 431 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: you do you leave certain things out to avoid backlash 432 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: now or do you have to tell how it really was? No? 433 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I think, I think. I think. You know, when you 434 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: watch the actors portrayed in nineties and they get a 435 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: chance to know, to remind us of whether we were 436 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: stupid or whether we were smart, you know. No, I 437 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: love the scene with Ashton he goes um and many look, 438 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: many producers and hip hoppers in New York City, right, 439 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: wanted those drum machines, one of those turntables. Right. And 440 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: episode one starsh off with our character wanting to get 441 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: that SP twelve hundred For those who don't know what 442 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: ESP twelve hundred is, the was the sampler that Easymo 443 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: b had um famire. Everybody used this to make hip hop. 444 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: And and how many people growing up in New York 445 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: wanting to get that when that came out, right, and 446 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: then we watch him trying to get it now and 447 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: all it does is sample twelve seconds, right, you know 448 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: for two thousan dollars. Now you can sample ten years 449 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: on your computer. Yo. Basically you know what I mean? 450 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: And so you know and so and so you know 451 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: the show like the ambition and the struggle of what 452 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: that was the show that uh you know, it's he 453 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: going to the parks and Manhattan. Remember the chess players 454 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: used to be down by the World Trade Center. We 455 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: see that in the show. But at the same time, 456 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: the World Trade Center, the Twin Towers and still standing. 457 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: You got kids who they can't even fantom with the 458 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Twin Towers, right, they couldn't fantom that, Yo. That's an 459 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: area that people were sitting there playing chessing and and 460 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: and and the Israelites and the guards is out building, 461 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So there's a scene where 462 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: he's sitting there listening and the guards are talking about, Yo, 463 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: you got knowledge yourself and all that. I mean, that's real, 464 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: that's what that's real. It's real. Where did you learn? Like? 465 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Where did you learn that? Because when I seen that, 466 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: I know that you were chests, But I'm like, but 467 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: where did you learn that? Coming out of stating anal 468 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: that's something that that you would taught or just going 469 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: to the to the city all the time I was taught. 470 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: I was blessed with a girl that took my virginity 471 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: and taught me chess man. She hit me with a 472 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: two for one. Based on the formation of the most 473 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: influential group in hip hop history, Wu Tang and American 474 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: Saga is now streaming with new episodes every Wednesday only 475 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: on Hulu.