1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Alrighty, you're ready. Yeah, I'm ready. I have to like 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: play the theme song in my head. No, I don't know. 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jets podcast All three too, like 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: on the World You Played to Win the Game's gotta 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Jet tuxdown. You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, 6 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: a Jets three sixty production. All right, we're back in 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: studio here on the Official Jets Podcast. Ethan Greenberg, Rik 8 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Allen Here. It's been a while. It's been like a month, 9 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's been you know, it's like a month. 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: It feels like a mom A lot has happened. They 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: gotta give props out to Matt Miller. He was our 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: last guest an Official Jets Podcast, and he did a 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: tremendous job as far as breaking down the draft for 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: us as we just got back from Indianapolis and the 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine and then previewing free agency. But by 16 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: the time we put that up, a lot of deals 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: were being consummated in that legal tampering period. The legal 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: tampering period really gets you because free agency officially starts 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, or it started on a Wednesday, but most 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: of the priority free agents deals were done before that time, 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: so everything became official then or at that point moving forward. 22 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: But you know, I was debating whether we should come 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: into the studio today because actually I continue to look 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: at our numbers sometimes and I just see that free 25 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: agency preview podcast that numbers going up and up and up. 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: So people are still listening to all We'll make you guarantee, 27 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: or at least I'll make you guarantee right here on 28 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: the Official j podcast, is that moving forward from here 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: to the draft, we will be better at getting in studio. 30 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: We've been all over the place, A lot has happened, 31 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: but we're not gonna go in chronological order here e A. 32 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: Because the big news since we've last been in the 33 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: studio is that the Jets have traded up to number 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: three overall in NFL Draft. They go from six to 35 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: three with the Indianapolis Colts. This move really shaped the 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: draft in a different manner. And what we were talking 37 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: about with Matt Miller because we were debating, oh what 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: happens with the Colts at three and the Browns at 39 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: fourn't saying all along that the Indianapolis was the flashpoint. 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: You did you did? You did? You have said, not 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: trying to give myself credit, but I I just let 42 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: that I looked at that that spot is the natural 43 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: trading spot early on and put Boy, was I surprised 44 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: on March seventeenth, when you were writing the article up 45 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: on New York just dot com that the Jets have 46 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: traded up from six to number three overall. So surprised. 47 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: In fact, I was in basking Ridge taking my dogs 48 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: on a dog walk where they surprised at the trade 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: at Lord Sterling Stables. Yes, they barked out loud when 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: I told him about it. Okay, So when you heard 51 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: about the trade, and let's go over the details here, 52 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: and is that the Jets swap first round picks with 53 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: the Colts, so the Colts cat number six overall, the 54 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Jets go up to number three. And to move up 55 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: those three spots, the Jets traded their two second round 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: picks from this year and second round pick as well. 57 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: So when you saw the compensation, you know what was 58 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: your initial reaction? Because since you've talked with a number 59 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: of people throughout the league, just at the NFL Annual 60 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: League Meeting, it seems that people have different opinions on 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: what the Jets gave up. Well, you know it's so 62 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: early to say, Okay, we're gonna grade this trade. I 63 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: think that's actually foolhardy. What I will say is that 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I think most people I talked to from external perspective, 65 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: of course, the Jets are gonna be happy about it, 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: because they would have made this trade unless they were 67 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: gonna be happy about it. But I think a lot 68 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: of pundits out there, a lot of people are covering 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the National Football League, think that a the Colts did well, 70 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: be the Jets did well. So if there is a 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: trade where both parties came out of it looking good 72 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: and very happy with what ultimately happened. This is one 73 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: what Chad Pennington said to me in Orlando, and we'll 74 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: hear from him later in the show, was that, hey, listen, 75 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: the same people in my clamoring for years that the 76 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: Jets need a quarterback are now saying they gave up 77 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: too much in terms of compensation. I've always been of 78 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: the thought process that you never can give up too 79 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: much if you like what you're getting. Most people externally 80 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: think the Jets are making this move in order to 81 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: get one of these top quarterbacks in the two eighteen 82 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: draft clad and we'll touch on the quarterbacks in a 83 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: couple of minutes here, but just on a compensation perspective, 84 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: is you know, I think Albert Brewer said it best 85 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: when you interviewed him, is that you know this has 86 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: the potential one it's a win win for both teams 87 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: because a lot of people think the Colts needed to 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: stack up on picks and they're still in the top ten, 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: still can potentially get one of the blue chippers in 90 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: this draft. And then from a Jet perspective, is you 91 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: make a move to get one of the players that 92 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: you believe will change your franchise moving up from six 93 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: to three, whether it's a quarterback. Coach Boll said that 94 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: there's five or six players that the team has in mind. 95 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: But I think that you know, if the Jets hit 96 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: on whatever player it is at three and we're in 97 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: these seats a couple of years from now, no one's 98 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna remember the three second round picks because you went 99 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: up and you got your guy. And I know a 100 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: lot of people point to Carson Wentz and the Eagles 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: when they traded up. They gave up a lot and 102 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: it panned out for them so far. Well, Jerry go 103 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: off to the Rams coving up, and then last year 104 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: we saw the Bears move up just one spot to 105 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: get Mitchell Rubinsky. Um, when I look at the package, 106 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the three twos, what stands out 107 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: to me is a nice job by Mike mccagnet prior 108 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: to the two thousand seventeen regular season sending each Oldon 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: Richards in the Seattle not only getting Germaine curse back, 110 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: but also getting a second round pick. He packaged that 111 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: pick this year along with the Jets two thousand eighteen 112 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: original second and then obviously two thousand nineteen second as well. 113 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: So nice job by mccagnet there. I think on a 114 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: macro level, you're sitting there at six and mccagne is 115 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: drafted well at six so far during his ten years. 116 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: Judge G, I'm getting Leonard Williams, a Pro Bowl defensive lineman. 117 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: And then two thousand seven thing to come back with 118 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Tomal Adams and the Jets secondary is really looking like 119 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: a formidable unit as we progress here, and Adams is 120 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: a big part of that. But they did not want 121 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: to be the outside looking in, and indeed, if they 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: do have their eyes on a quarterback, Green's they could 123 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: have sat there at six and maybe three or four 124 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: of their top guys on their board all could have 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: been gone by the time they drafted it six. A 126 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: couple of things I really like about this trade is 127 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: one the timing of it, because there's always a surprise 128 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: team in the first round somewhere that's gonna want to 129 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: trade up and get a quarterback. Last year was the 130 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs when they traded up from the twenties all the 131 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: way up to ten and got Patrick Mall. So there's 132 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: always gonna be a team like that. And by trading 133 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: up two number three, you've now forced teams that really 134 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: want to trade up. And let's say they want to 135 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: go to number two to the Giants to get ahead 136 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: of the Jets. One, they not a lot of a 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: room to get ahead of the Jets, because it doesn't 138 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: seem like the Browns are giving up their number one 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: overall pick. And two is that now you're gonna have 140 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: to give up a lot because the Giants saw that 141 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: the Jets gave up. And the teams that I'm just 142 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: gonna use them as an example is the Bills. A 143 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: lot of people pegg the Bills as one of the 144 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: teams that has the draft capital to move up. So 145 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: if they decide to move up, you know, if they 146 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: want to go to number two, they're probably gonna have 147 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: to give up a lot more than what the Jets 148 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: did because they're at twelve. Well, and I wonder what 149 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: that compensation is too. If the Bills really want to 150 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: get up there, is it three once? Is it twelve 151 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: in twenty one this year and then an additional one 152 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen that might do it? That's a lot. Also, 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Giants would want to move 154 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: back that far. I do think that there could be 155 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: a possibility obviously where the Jets are going to be 156 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: the second team which takes a quarterback. Because I was 157 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: in Orlando Greens, the feeling I got was Cleveland is 158 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: either going to take Sam Donald out of USC with 159 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: that first overall selection and maybe outside possibility at Josh 160 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Allen number two. Now the Giants ultimately become that flashpoint. 161 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Did they stay there, do they take a Barkley, do 162 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: they taken Nelson? Did they take a Bradley job? Or 163 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: do they trade out? And like you were mentioning, is 164 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: a team like Buffalo, is a team like Miami Arizona, 165 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: who knows what. It's gonna take a lot to get 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: up there to number two, but we'll have to see 167 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: what happens. And if Giants don't go quarterback, then the 168 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Jets could be sitting there with a lot of fascinating names. 169 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: But as it stands now, even if quarterbacks go one 170 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: too and you take a quarterback three, he's gonna be 171 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: a good player and a player a lot of people 172 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: have talked highly about throughout their college careers, no matter 173 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: who it is, are real quick before we hear from 174 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Jets general manager Mike mccagnet is that the one other 175 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: thing that I love about this trade is that the 176 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: Jets kept the first round pick next year in twenty nineteen. 177 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: I think that was a big reason why Mike mccagnan 178 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: felt like it was important to get up to three 179 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: without giving up a number one next year. Whereas, let's 180 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: say he wanted to go up to number one with 181 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the Browns, you probably would have had to give up that. 182 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: It's a great point, Greens, and and that's one thing 183 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: that we all have to keep in mind that the 184 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: Jets still have six selections in two thousand eighteen, and 185 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, they still have their first round or 186 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Ideally you want to build this 187 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: thing through the draft. You still have six draft picks. Again, 188 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: credit mccagne the Richardson cursed deal when you look at this, 189 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: But for us to fairly look at the trade, we're 190 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about this on a podcast in 191 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one, in two thousand twenty two. But 192 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: I like the aggression. I think a lot of the 193 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: fans like the aggression, and they were lauded for this 194 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: move by most people I talked to in Orlando, even 195 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: though the compensation was great. All right, I think it's 196 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: about time that we hear from the architects himself and 197 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Jets GM Mike mccagnets. We felt very good about potentially 198 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: moving up in this draft. There are some very good 199 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: players in the top part of the draft, and the 200 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: third spot was a good spot to be in from 201 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the players we liked and we think 202 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: may potentially be there. When Toime and I first came here, 203 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: our long term goal was to have a team that 204 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: had a, you know, a young core of players, but 205 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: also be a team that got there and compete for 206 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs on a early basis. You know, we obviously 207 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: gave up some good picks, but we're able to hold 208 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: on to our first round draft pick going forward. But 209 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: it was important to us and we feel we can, 210 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, have a solid draft here and maybe get 211 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: a player or two that we really targeted. We'll see 212 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: how it plays out going forward. Great stuff there from 213 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Mike mccagnet e, a coach Bowls met with the media 214 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: for an hour during the time in Orlando, and he 215 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: said that they're about five to six guys that the 216 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: team has its eye on right now. As we stand 217 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: in early April, the draft is less than a month away. 218 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: This is exciting times, especially if you're a just fan. 219 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Because we've talked about it. We're number three in the 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, top three selection coming up April e A. 221 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: I know a lot of fans, a lot of pundents 222 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: across the league believe the Jets are gonna select a 223 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: quarterback at number three. So let's break down these guys 224 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: real quick. The four guys that everyone believes are the 225 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: top four guys, and I'm not everyone, probably not most 226 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: people believe is the top four. Sam Donald out of USC, 227 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen out of u c l A. Josh Allen 228 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: at of Wyoming and the Heisman Trophy winner Baker Mayfield 229 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma. Another guy you can thrown in the mix, 230 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's a wild card is Lamar Jackson. 231 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: Do I think he's gonna be drafted over any of 232 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: those four? Probably not, But it wouldn't stunned me if 233 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: maybe Jackson bolts over one of those guys, but I 234 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: still say probably not. Maybe he's the fifth guy taken 235 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: off the board. Maybe it's Mason Rudolph at Oklahoma State. 236 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: There's some other interesting players in this draft that you covered, 237 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Donna Mobile at the Senior Bowl. But let's just start 238 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: off with Donald. I think as of today, again, this 239 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: can change tomorrow when the podcast uh goes up on iTunes. 240 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: As a day, you would say that Sam Donald is 241 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: the favorite to land with the Browns. Just twenty years old, 242 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: young guy. He can't even buy a drink at a 243 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: bar yet, but somebody is going to give him the 244 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: keys to their franchise. What people like about him most Greens. 245 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: We've talked about this a lot. He's bigger, he's thick, 246 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: he can improvise, he can run with the football a 247 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: little bit and he's very comfortable thrown the football on 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: the run. Also, a lot of people praise him for 249 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: his leadership qualities. Could be the Browns number one overall selection. 250 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: I think there's an outside chance that guy could be 251 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The more I talked to people in the league, 252 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: the more you hear about this buzz developing around Josh Allen. 253 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, a Green's. The big knock on him has 254 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: been completion percentage of fifty six guy at Wyoming. But 255 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: he has elite arm talent, and the other thing he 256 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: has is that he's a good athlete. That's the thing 257 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: that people are under rating about Allen. He's a guy 258 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: can talk it and run and he's a monster six 259 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: five two or thirty pounds. People saying, Okay, well, why 260 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: is someone like that playing for a mid major at Wyoming? 261 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Is at I was reading an article today. He was 262 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: like five nine, one seventy in high school. He was 263 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: a very late bloomer. He went to he actually went 264 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: to a community college, read Ley Community College in California, 265 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: and then transferred to Wyoming. Has the same head coach 266 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: as Carson Wentstead at North Dakota State. So a lot 267 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: of people have compared them as a pro comp for 268 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: him in Carson Wentz just because the major major big 269 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: guys the athletic ability. And obviously Carson Wentz has panned 270 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: out so far through two years in the NFL. But 271 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is an intriguing case because he's He's very 272 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: well polished in all his interviews, He's very well spoken, 273 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: he has a ridiculous arm strength, and he's a freak athlete. 274 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys are freak athletes. But 275 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, he he sure looks good when he throws 276 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: the ball in a pair of shorts and a T shirt. 277 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are saying, Okay, well, 278 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: how are you gonna tell me that Josh Allen's completion 279 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: percentage has improved since we saw him at Wyoming to now. 280 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: And for a lot of pundits that have analyzed Josh 281 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: have said that his feet look better from a mechanic standpoint, 282 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: which enables him to deliver a more accurate ball. Well, 283 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: that's the key with all these guys is that what 284 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: are they now as a prospect and also what are 285 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: they joining? Who is gonna be coaching these guys up 286 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: at the next level? Because that is key. As far 287 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: as organizational structure, I like what the Jets have here 288 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: because I thought Jeremy Bates did a fantastic job last year. 289 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: The other thing that the Jets did, and we'll talk 290 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: about this when we review free agency, as they brought 291 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Josh comback. McCown is a perfect mentor for whatever quarterback 292 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: you potentially add to the equation because he's a guy 293 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: who still plays at a high level. He understands this system, 294 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: he has thrived under Jeremy Bates, and he's the consummate professional. 295 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: So I'm feeling very good about the structure that Jets 296 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: currently have in place. You mentioned Wyoming's coach and Josh Allen. 297 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to the other Josh. Talk about Josh Rosen. Wow, 298 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: each day something different is coming out from the West 299 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Coast from his former coach Jim Moore. Respected guy who 300 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: had success in the National Football League with Atlanta falcons 301 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: um coach U c l A the last few years. 302 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: Rosen was a prize recruit. He is a tremendous mechanic guy. Rosen, 303 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: as far as just sitting in the pocket, I think 304 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: he's the best pure pocket passer on the entire group, 305 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: really solid footwork. He looks like a pro quarterback. With 306 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: that being said, we're not talking too much about his 307 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: physical skills right now, we're talking about what his former 308 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: college coach has said about him or hasn't said about him. 309 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Green's it's pretty interesting hearing Jim Mora, who coached Rosen, 310 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Like you said, take National TV and say that the 311 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: brown should take Sam Donald number one overall, that he'd 312 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: be a better fit, and c he'd be better a 313 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: better fit in Cleveland. Mind you, Sam Donald and Josh 314 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Rosen are both California boys. They're both they both went 315 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: to California schools. They both grew up in California. And 316 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: then Morris said he'd be a better fit for one 317 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: of the New York teams, whether to be the Jidge 318 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: of the Jets. He said, if if either the Jodge 319 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: of the Jets had the first pick, he'd take Rosen instantly. Yeah. 320 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: The paraphrase more is that he said that Rosen is 321 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: a millennial, He's an intellectual and he needs to be 322 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: challenged and he can thrive. But what is he going 323 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: to be doing off the field? So uh, he has 324 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: been in the media a lot lately. I know he 325 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: made an appearance on NFL Network uh Peter King from 326 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback. Former guests of the podcast uh here 327 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: also wrote about more this week. So it seems like 328 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: there's new news coming out each and every day about him. 329 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: But again, you can't deny this guy's talent. He's a 330 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: talented football player. Does he love the game? Do you 331 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: want him to have the keys of your franchise? These 332 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: are things that I'm not asking that other people throughout 333 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: the league are asking. If you take him, you have 334 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: to be sure. But you can say that about any 335 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: of these guys, and many believe that he's the most 336 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: pro ready out of the four because you can you 337 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: can put him on the field. Like you said, he's 338 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: one of the most polished pastors of recent memory in 339 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: the NFL draft. He anticipates throws well, and when you 340 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: watch throws, guys open and you have to do that. 341 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: He's very impressive when you look at him throw the ball. 342 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: And the question has never been an on field It's 343 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: always been off field. And someone else that you were 344 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: about to bring him up that's had off field concerns 345 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: in the past. Is Baker Mayfield out of Oklahoma? Again, No, 346 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: one's questioning his on field performance either because he's very efficient, 347 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: even though he played in a system that's quarterback friendly. 348 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: He completed near seventy of his passes for his career. 349 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: He walked on at both Texas Tech and Oklahoma. You 350 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: won the Heisman Trophy, his ridiculous stats, touchdown of interception 351 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: ratio through the roof. But you're on social media all 352 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: the time. I get the sense, not all the time. 353 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: Most time, I've Twitter open all day, though sometimes your 354 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: phone is glued to your head. But I would say that, 355 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: don't you think that Jets fans there is a loud. 356 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a minority or majority. On 357 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: social media. They're in the Baker Mayfield I think personally, 358 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield has New York written all over him. 359 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: He likes he likes the spotlight. He shines bright when 360 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: the lights are big, even though you might bring up 361 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. He had a tremendous first half, not 362 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: so much in the second half. But he's someone that 363 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: just kinda he does his own thing, and I think 364 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: New Yorkers kind of like the attitude about him. I 365 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: don't think they're saying they like when he gets run 366 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: down by the cops or you know what. He makes 367 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: his project the Kansas sidelines. But I think some people 368 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: did like that one though, because if you don't know 369 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: anything about that game, Baker Mayfield was at the coin toss. 370 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: He's one of the team captains. One of the shake 371 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: his head and they got in his face and Baker 372 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: Mayfield licked them up. Here's the thing about Baker Mayfield's 373 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: hunter and one touchdounds, thirty interceptions. You mentioned his completion percentage. 374 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: The one quality that stands out about him more than 375 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: anything else is that he is hyper competitive and you 376 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: gotta love that. Now, how did teams raid him as 377 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: far as his size are their detractors Remember Russell Wilson 378 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: as a guy lasted into the third round. He was 379 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: tremendous college quarterback, not just at Wisconsin but a CE State. 380 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: I think he's more of polished runner or more of 381 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: an explosive runner. I don't think you're talking yeah, I 382 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think Baker Mayfield is a runner wet. 383 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: We should look at him as a guy who can 384 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: extend plays, but he's looking to make plays down the field, 385 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think that's a bad thing at all. 386 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's not unique from that standpoint. Remember 387 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Drew Brees way back in the day, when he was 388 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: coming out, people questioned his height, so San Diego took 389 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: a flyer on him. What was it late first or yeah, 390 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: it panned out, yeah, late first round, and he's been 391 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: able to be successful despite being six one. I have 392 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a comparison for Baker Mayfield's pocket awareness and movements because 393 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned a lot of people comparing to Drew Brees. Well, 394 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is you know, he's more of a statue 395 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: back there, even though he's he's obviously I think he's 396 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: got fantastic No, no, I'm saying, but he's not someone 397 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: that's scrambling. I agree with that. I would say someone 398 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield is similar to in that aspect would 399 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: be someone like Tony Romo. You know, he escapes pressure, 400 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: he runs laterally and if he needs to after he 401 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: looks down fields, we'll tuck it and run for you know, 402 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: five yards and slid. But I think that would be 403 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: a similar compare arison in the way that they dance 404 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: around in the pocket and behind the line of script. 405 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: I actually asked serious X ms Jim Miller about Baker 406 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Mayfield and the Jets specifically, just saying, hey, did they 407 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: match as far as system is concerned? And Jim Miller 408 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: thinks that Baker Mayfield would succeed, would excel in a 409 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: system that Jeremy Bates has here with West Coast concepts, 410 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: and he thinks it's right up his l That's funny 411 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned that because I was That was My next 412 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: point is, out of the guys that we just mentioned, 413 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: you talked about Jeremy Bates before, we don't really know 414 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: what kind of offense it's gonna be, but we know 415 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Bulls Balls has talked about that. The one thing we 416 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: can expect this here is some more balance. Okay, so 417 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: out of the quarterback crops, how do you think these 418 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: guys would in theory projected a Bates style offense? And 419 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: not only that is we we we said Rosen was 420 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: the most pro ready. Who do you believe maybe would 421 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: sit for a year and kind of really embrace the 422 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: mentee role to someone like Joshua. I would hope none 423 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: of them would want to say, you know what I mean, 424 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: But you said embrace, I'm serious. I'm not taking a 425 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: shot at you what I'm saying, I want these guys 426 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: come out and you want the football now. I think 427 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: if any of them were here under McCown they would learn. 428 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: Even Baker Mayfield, who's been on records saying that I'm 429 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: not going anywhere to be a backup quarterback, well, that's 430 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: all well and good. But if McCown out performs your 431 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: early and McCown will be the Jets starter heading into 432 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: training camp, regardless of whether the Jets take a quarterback 433 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: at number three overall, Todd Bowles has been clear about 434 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: that is that I think any of these guys would 435 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: not flourish, but that would help them take their next 436 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: steps as a pro learning under a guy like McCown 437 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: and also learning under Jeremy Bates. System Wise, I think 438 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: they all have the potential to be good NFL quarterbacks. 439 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: Two very good and maybe outstanding greens. I would not 440 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: be scared of any of them as far as the 441 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: system is concerned or the situation they're walking in here 442 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: with the Jets, because not only they have McCown, but 443 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: they have Teddy Bridgewater. I don't know Teddy too much. 444 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: They got a chance to interview him, sit down with 445 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: him for like three or four minutes when he came 446 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: in here and he signed his contract. Everybody talks about 447 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: these two guys has unbelievable character people, and we know 448 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: about McCown firsthand. So now you have Bridgewater into the mix. So, uh, 449 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a great quarterback room for 450 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: any young quarterback to walk into. All right, enough from us, 451 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Let's go check in with Chad Pennington. You caught up 452 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: with him at the annual league meeting to get his 453 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on the quarterback Still, to me, it's a very 454 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: dynamic group. It's diverse. I think you can look at 455 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: each one of these quarterbacks and say, Okay, this guy 456 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: does this very well, and then the next guy does 457 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: something a little bit different. I think when you draft 458 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: a quarterback as young as Sam Donald, you have to 459 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: really take a page of history and look at the 460 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: Alex Smith situation. Can just place the organization on his 461 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: shoulders at twenty it's just not gonna work. How about 462 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen and he was so productive out of the 463 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: pocket at U c l A. Well. I think when 464 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: you look at his footwork, he's polishing his footwork. I 465 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: think on film he's shown that he will stand in 466 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: the pocket and make throws under duress. And so what 467 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: you look at is can he handle the volume of 468 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: information you wanted to handle, how fast can he do that? 469 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: And does he fit in your long term plan? How 470 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: about Allen? He played at Wyoming, so a lot of 471 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: folks didn't get a chance to see him. But people 472 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: love his arm strength and he's a big guy. Yeah, 473 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a guy who has tremendous upside. I 474 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: think you look at his athleticism, his arm talent, and 475 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: you say, this is a guy that will also need 476 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: some time to develop, but if we handle him correctly, 477 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: he could certainly be a very productive professional in the future. 478 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to really focus on the 479 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: the accuracy issue as far as um completion percentage. You 480 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: need to really study those throws and see what's happening. 481 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: You also go say, hey, he can play in cold weather, 482 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: he can play in bad weather. Playing in Wyoming, It's 483 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna be some similar situations playing in New York. So 484 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: that's something that's a positive that he can handle. What's 485 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be the key for Baker Mayfield as he 486 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: makes his pro transition hunter thirty one touchdowns at Oklahoma 487 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: just thirty interceptions. He's a guy who's got good feet, 488 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: can move around in that pocket. He's always looking to 489 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: extend to play and make the right decision. On the 490 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: other side of the coin, a lot of people are 491 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: questioning maybe as some of his personality off the field, 492 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: perhaps some of his personality issues or ideas off the 493 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: field are overblown. I don't think we should go down 494 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: that rabbit hole with him. I think what you look 495 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: at him first of all, in my opinion, is probably 496 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: the most purest passer in this draft. When I watched 497 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: him at the combine, the ball came out really clean. 498 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: He understood mechanics and fundamentals. I think from a football perspective, 499 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that if you draft Baker, 500 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: that you put him in the right position to be 501 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: successful within your system. There's certain things you're gonna ask 502 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: him to do and certain things that you're not gonna 503 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: ask him to do. You've got to look at some 504 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: of the other ways other teams have done that with 505 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: smaller stature quarterbacks. And then finally, you gotta make sure 506 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: the structures around him where he understands. As long as 507 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: he keeps them about football, he'll be fine. If he 508 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: lets other things, the entertainment value of this league get 509 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: to him, that's when it makes it really challenging and difficult. 510 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: All Right. That was Chad Pennington here on the Official 511 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Jets Podcast and again Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen bringing 512 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: a trade news as it's been a while. As we mentioned, 513 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: trade news, trade breakdown, trade breakdown, thank you, that's a 514 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: better word choice, trade breakdown. Because last time we were 515 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: in these seats it was pre free agency. So let's 516 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: actually touch on free agents now, because we have yet 517 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: to do that. The Jets made a number of moves 518 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: very early in the free agency period, whether it be 519 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: the legal tampering period or when free agency actually began 520 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: that Wednesday, March fourteen at four pm, and Mike mccagan 521 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: said very early. He said in January, we're gonna be active. 522 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna be active on the first day, and he 523 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: kept true to his word. So many places to dive in. 524 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? I think he got 525 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: started Truman Johnson because mcagnan said, we'll be looking at 526 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: big ticket players and they punch your ticket with tremain Johnson. 527 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: You can make the argument that he was the top 528 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: cornerback on the market. I know Malcolm Butler went from 529 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: New England and Tennessee, but Tremaine Johnson, I think it's 530 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a perfect fit here. Not only does he 531 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: join those ascending young safeties who are gonna help him patrol, 532 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: but he's also a guy flourished under Jets defensive backs 533 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: coach Denard Wilson with the Rams, so there's familiarity there. 534 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: I like that, and the Jets set and dairy. I 535 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: think that's where you have to start with free agency. 536 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: It's the Jets secondary. Bull said that this is the 537 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: most versatile an athletic group he will have coached here, 538 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: and there's no doubt about that because not only they 539 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: add Trueman Johnson, but they resigned Morris Clayborne. That one 540 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: under the radar big time. So Buster screens still here. 541 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: He probably figures to maybe play more Nickel next year. 542 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: But Bull said, hey, listen, depending on the situation, they 543 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: all can go. Busters still can go outside, and obviously 544 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: you got the safety. So when you're thinking about the Jets, 545 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to mind is their secondary. 546 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: They got better there again, because not only is True 547 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: part of this unit, but so true true part of 548 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: the unit. So that is a pun in there. So 549 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, that was a big resigning. I think the 550 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Morris Clayborne resigning really solidifies that room to the next level. Obviously, 551 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson comes. He's a big tick get guy. He's 552 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, eighteen interception sixty seven past defenses in six seasons, 553 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: very impressive long range e he said he can play anything. 554 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: He said, he's a playmaker. I think that room, that 555 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: New jack City room they like to call themselves, that 556 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: is with Johnson, Clayborne, screen Adams May, I mean Bull 557 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: said it perfectly. Is that this most versatile and athletic 558 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: group he's been a part of, and that he's coach. 559 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: And I from an outsider's perspective, from someone that doesn't 560 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: coach that room, I would agree. And I think it's 561 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: a very talented room. I'm excited to see how they 562 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: gel on and off the field. And you actually talked 563 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh at the owners meetings about Truemain Johnson 564 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: and he was raving about Johnson. Yeah, he's a special player. 565 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: You know. I think the one thing about Tremaine is 566 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: he's one of those rare athletes that he's got the size, 567 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: the rare ball skills, but then he can also come 568 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: up and bumpy. He can play off with visions. So 569 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: he's one of those players that really fits into any 570 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: sort of system. He is a true corner that influences 571 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: and affects the game in a variety of ways. And 572 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, he was voted captain by his teammates last year, 573 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: So you know you're getting a guy that's gonna come 574 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: in and be the right kind of guy in the 575 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: locker room. And you know, I hate to lose him. 576 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: You know, very fortunate to have that year of experience 577 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: with your main and you know, wish him nothing but 578 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: the best, and you guys are getting a great one 579 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: at him. Not only did the Jets sign Johnson and 580 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: re signed Clayborn, but then they have a new MICA 581 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: linebacker and Avery Williamson who came over from the Tennessee Titans. 582 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Tomorio Davis went down to the Big Easy and he's 583 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: now a member of the New Orleans Saints. Williamson is 584 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: someone that just listening to Coach Bowl Speak last week 585 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: that he's very excited to see what Williamson can do, 586 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: because he described him a tackling machine. He's like twenty 587 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: six years old. He's young, he's hard hitting. He finally 588 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: has a nose for the ball. And then the Jets 589 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: also beefed up their defensive line. They've resigned to Xavier 590 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: Cooper like Panell going back to Williamson real quick. Is that? Uh. 591 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I also found it very interesting that given Adam Schefter 592 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: in his podcast to plug this, that Bowles said that 593 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: he's a guy we really expect to step up as 594 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: far as communication verbally and taking the next step as 595 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: far as maybe as a leader is concerned. Because no, 596 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: Damario Davis and the Jets were very thankful for his 597 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: contributions and we all wish tomorrow, well what a what 598 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: a great professional he gotn't revived his career here last year, 599 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: and you just signed with the Saints and all I 600 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: have a chance to probably go to the playoffs and 601 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: have an extended run anytime you pair up with Drew Brees. 602 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: But Bowls did say, Darren Lee, you know he's expecting 603 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: big things out of him. So I thought that was 604 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: very interesting. So then he flipped an offensive side up 605 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: all offensive line. Spencer Long comes in Bowls like that 606 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: position flexibility. That's one thing he stressed is that guy 607 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: started out as a guard. He transitioned over to center 608 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: so he can play that position for the Jets. Isaiah Crowall, 609 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: former member of the Cleveland Browns, a hard charge and 610 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: running back. A guy who was an accomplished runner in Cleveland. 611 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: And he also can catch the ball of the backfield. 612 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: And finally to Roll Prior. I thought that was interesting 613 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: signing because he didn't put up much numbers in Washington 614 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: last year, but he was banged up the previous year 615 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen, he was a I was 616 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: in yard receiver and he's another guy that Bowls likes. 617 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: He's got, you know, the interesting size speed combination because 618 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: he's a big guy, tall ranging and he can run. 619 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: You actually asked Hugh Jackson about both those guys, and 620 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: he coached both of them before Prior went to Washingtons. 621 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: Very athletic. You know, he's a big guy. He has 622 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: the ability to catch the ball, he can run with anybody, 623 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: and he's bigger than those defensive backs. So uh, he's 624 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: a very talented player. I expect him to do great 625 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: things in New York. I want to talk about Prior 626 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: for a second, because this guy is a converted quarterback 627 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: from college and the NFL. He came to the NFL 628 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: as a quarterback, then he made a transition to receiver, 629 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: had a very successful season in twenty sixteen when Josh 630 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: McCallen was in Cleveland there, And I mean, if you 631 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: watch some of some of his highlights, they're very, very impressive. 632 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: And the rate at which he developed to becoming a 633 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL is astronomical to me, because 634 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: you know, it seemed like overnight he just became one 635 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: of the league's top receivers. And last year he was 636 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: hampered by injuries. And he seems to be very excited 637 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: to come here based on the social media post. And 638 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see what this wide receiver's room 639 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: looks like in camp because you add in the addition 640 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: or the readdition of Quincy and Nona, who missed all 641 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: of last season with the neck injury. Right, So, yeah, 642 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: a couple of injury up to its real quick is 643 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: that Bull said that he likes to see an run 644 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: around a little bit in the spring. He said, you know, 645 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: that's one thing he's looking forward to. Marcus May is 646 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: still a little bit banged up with the ankle. Uh. 647 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: Bulls did not say whether he's gonna be able to 648 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: part in spring. He expects him back for a training camp. 649 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: And then last but not least, we got to speak 650 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: about the quarterback position free agency that's resigned Josh McCown 651 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater added to the mix Bowls set. He'd 652 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: like to see Bridgewater throw in the spring. He expects 653 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: him to throw. And Bridgewater did pass his physical obviously, 654 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: and he's a new member of that quarterback room. A 655 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: lot of analysts really liked the Teddy Bridgewater signing because 656 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: it's very low risk, potentially high reward. I mean, before 657 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: he had his gruesome knee injury with the Vikings, he 658 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: was a pro bowler in his sophomore year and that 659 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: what they went. They made the playoffs, the other one 660 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: the NFC North and then the devastating the injury two 661 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. He played a handful of snaps last 662 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: year in two thousand seventeen. You know, this is a 663 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: chance for him uh to restart. Uh. You know, he 664 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: obviously worked so hard to get back on the field 665 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: last year, so we'll have to see what happens. But 666 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: Bowls again, he him to throw in the spring. Uh. 667 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, this is potentially a high reward signing for 668 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: the Jets um but getting a comback was huge as well. 669 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: And you know, so the Jets, as expected, very busy 670 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: in free agency. The big ticket guy was Johnson. He's 671 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: the guy that stands out to me. But then you're 672 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: getting complimentary parts along the way. We talked about it 673 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: before free agency started is that sometimes what happens in 674 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: free agency is there's a lot of teams position with 675 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: cat flexibility and these guys with monster names that you 676 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: anticipate are gonna be calm free agents and really doesn't 677 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: happen for the Jets this year. They went after Kirk Cousins. 678 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: He was the big fish, so to speak. When it 679 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: became clear that he was going to sign with the 680 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, they quickly pivoted and they moved on. Just 681 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: for the record, I know in different interviews and whatnot, 682 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Plan A the term coin for Kirk Cousin and then 683 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,479 Speaker 1: Plan B is what's currently happening. Plan B and Plan 684 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: A do not have a significant drop off to me, 685 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: because Christopher Johnson said it, Plan B has A is 686 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: looking like it's gonna be pretty What was aworthy. Pretty magnificent, 687 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: pretty magnificent. Yeah, well, let's see what happens. You know. 688 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: The bottom line is that that trade two number three 689 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen, or didn't become clear that it 690 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: was going to happen until it seemed very real that 691 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: Cousins is going to go to Minnesota because the Jets 692 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: brass in Orlando said, listen, we've been talking about a 693 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: trade up since the season ended. Once they looked at 694 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: Cousins and it became clear that he was not going 695 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: to be joining the Green on white, then they moved 696 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: on not only getting the Cown, not only getting Bridgewater, 697 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: but making that trade. It is a very exciting time, 698 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: not only this year because the Jets made a number 699 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: of moves in free agency number three overall, picking the draft. 700 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: But then real quick before we close up shop, here 701 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: is when you look at a long term plan ahead 702 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: e A. You've talked about it number of times that 703 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: the Jets have almost a hundred million dollars in cap 704 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: space again next free agency, and if you look right now, 705 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the market. There are some very 706 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: intriguing players, and obviously there's a lot of time between 707 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: now and that, and that could change, but as it 708 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: stands now, the Jets are not only setting themselves up 709 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: this year but for the years to come. Yeah, you 710 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: just rather have flexibility moving forward. You never want to 711 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: enter a season and where you're saying, hey, we don't 712 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: have much room to maneuver again, much like this spring, 713 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: the Jets will have room to maneuver again. To keep 714 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: pointing that, you know, comments full circle to the trade 715 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: is the Jets still has six picks in the two 716 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen draft, They still have their first round or 717 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. They still want to build this thing 718 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: through the draft. And again, what that money means next year, 719 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: Greens is you can potentially pick up another guy like 720 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: a Truemaine Johnson, you know, because it's not all the 721 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: time guys like Tremaine Johnson hit the market, and when 722 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: they do, will you have the flexibility to go after 723 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 1: a guy like that. And in this case, the Jets 724 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: were so automatically you look at their secondary and say, wow, 725 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: they really solidified themselves. Now with this trade to number 726 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: three overall, the Jets could be poised be taking a quarterback. 727 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: Who that is, we don't know. The guessing games are 728 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: going to continue over the next three weeks. Again, I 729 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: think the flashpoint of the draft becomes Crosstown. Now it's 730 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: the Giants that to what do they do if they 731 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: don't take a quarterback? Are they poised to move out? 732 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: Would they take a running back that early like a 733 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley after trading Jason p r Paul? Would 734 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: they take a Bradley Chubb that early? And you mentioned 735 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson before in the interior lineman. Yes, you want 736 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: to build your lines on both sides of the ball 737 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: and be strong in the trenches. We fortified in the trenches. 738 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: But me from outsider's perspective, I'd be surprised if they 739 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: think Quentin alson number two. So what happens there because 740 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: the Jets could be staring at three of those top 741 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks. If the Giants don't take a quarterback at two, 742 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: potentially though they could move out. Don't have trade conversations. 743 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: All those teams gonna have trade conversations. Remember mckagnan, before 744 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: completing that trade with Indianapolis, he had talks with Cleveland 745 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: had number one. Overall, he did not have talks with 746 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: the Giants. Six words here for the audience. Before we 747 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: wrap up here is we will be back next week 748 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: because E and I have only had two podcasts on 749 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: the official Jets podcasts since the start of free agency. 750 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: But we will be back next week and the week 751 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: after that and the week after that and the week 752 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: after that, and then it's the NFL Draft and then 753 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: the week after that and the week after that. The 754 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: show must go on again. This is the Official Jets podcast, 755 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen bringing you all things Jets. 756 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: That was the trade free agency recap, and again be 757 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: sure to tune in next week. Okay,