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Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: The world's of Bige Podcas Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: We got an ASKDFW from one of his former teachers 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: who says that he had Gerard in the seventh grade 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: Algebra one class. Please give Garad the message that I 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: still have a project that he submitted titled why will 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: algebra help Me in the future, which, of course the 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: answer is it won't. 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Big day, big big hoo ha. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: So right, it's got the big hoo ha. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Something different. Oh really, actually I do. 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: I do have one of the greatest calls. How someone 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: could actually say that. 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: Out loud, like, well, actually you can't. Well actually the 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: media don't at me with this, but I'm just putting 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: the scenario out there into the ether. Bring back Josh, 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: you put Mac back in there. Give him Marvin Harrison, 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: you draft him a tackle at the top of the 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: second round. You see what happens to the door. That's 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: what I want to do. I come at me. 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered. 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 5: Presented by Toyota's official website. For deals, buy a Toyota 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: dot com. 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium. And I was just talking to Paul, 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: like moments before the show. It's it's a different feeling. 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's more it's positive or negative. 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: It's just different. It's like yesterday we had, you know, 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: the Jirodmeo introductory U press conference, and now today what's 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: supposed to happen? Like what are we supposed to do? 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, Like it's it's kind of a weird feeling, 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: you know. I think Bill leaving created such a vacuum, 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, and understandably everyone's questions is how is that 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: vacuum going to be filled? We know who the new 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: head coach is, but what kind of head coach is 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: that going to be? What's his staff going to look like, 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: who's going to be having final say in different matters? 44 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: And we don't really know the answers to that. They 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: weren't answered yesterday understandably, you know, I'm sure Mayo is 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: still filling out his staff and he doesn't want to, 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, tip his hand or say something before he 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: knows it himself. So but it's kind of a weird 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: feeling that I have anywhere. 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel it. We're the off season. 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what And I mean I get what 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: you're saying yesterday, and I definitely, but it's. 53 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: A little bit different off season'd it was. 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 4: And that's I mean, and that's why I think, at 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: least from my experience the last few years, it's it's 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: like you have to use this time to decompress a 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: little bit and you know, to refocus on what's going 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: to happen. But I agree, like you just you're kind 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: of I mean, I almost said it was talking about 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: it yesterday with my wife. It was like, you know, 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: we spent so much time speculating about Bill being gone 62 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: and what that could look like. And you know, I 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: use the term like into the wilderness almost like saying 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: the team is into the wilderness. But now I feel 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: like we're all actually in the wilderness. I don't really 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: realize exactly. There's nothing you know and say everything you 67 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: will about Bill, but there was just a certain way 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: that everything was done and you knew what to expect, 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: and you know, for better or worse, that's how it was. 70 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: And now you don't know, you don't really know who 71 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: to look to. You don't And I mean, look, I'll 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 4: just say I really like Jaab Mayo. And you know, 73 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: I know that people probably have issues with how this 74 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: is all going down with you know, GM searches and 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: OC's and all that kind of stuff. But for me, 76 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm at least starting from a point of I really 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: like this guy. I you know, I think he deserves 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: this shot that he's getting. And you know, I think 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: yesterday I kind of had a feel art this he 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 4: seems like a head coach. Now he seems like that 81 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: to me. I don't know how it's going to go, 82 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: but but I like the guy, and I think it's 83 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: easy to kind of get behind him. 84 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: And as he starts this like, I want him to 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: succeed for for him, but I also want him to 86 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: succeed for us. Yeah. Oh yeah, you know it's life's 87 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: a lot better when you're winning, and. 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: That's where that wilderness stuff that Mike just talked about, 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: like you don't know exactly which direction you know, things 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: could go. So I agree with you, you know, and you're like, 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: the off season is here. I feel like now, like 92 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: what Fred's talking about, we really haven't had any days 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: where it was like you could tell it's the off 94 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: season until probably today. Yeah, you know, it's been you know, 95 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: what's going to happen with Bill? Okay, so you know, newsflash. 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: But when something that big is going to happen, when 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: it happens, that's not when you can start work. You know, 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: you're sort of preparing yourself that for the possibility that 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: a change was coming, so you you had a lot 100 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: of work to do in that regard. Then it happens 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: and you have to, you know, sort of get it 102 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: all out there and and express how you feel about it. 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: Then you find out that they're naming girod Mao the 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: next day, Like, there have been no off days in 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: the off season I think until today. 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: No chance, like you said, is to decompress. Yeah, you know, 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: it's we're compressed. 108 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and it's a whole new set of things 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: that you know, I mean, just even as simple as 110 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: you know, whatever we've come to believe as what they 111 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: like as draft prospects, like does that really hold water anymore? 112 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: You know it's going to change, you know, right but 113 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: I mean it's I think right now it's a little 114 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: bit disconcerting and you feel a little bit like you 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: don't really you know, have a gravity to the situation. 116 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 4: But I assume it will, it will begin to develop. 117 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: And oh, you know that was the the takeaway from 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: yesterday was you know, this is what Mayo's doing right now, 119 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: is as we kind of knew, he's stepping into this 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: role and he's got to reevaluate every last little detail 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 4: within this place. And you know it's I mean, I 122 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: had a lot of fun less in a Felger yesterday, 123 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: you know, dissecting every everything he said. And that's I mean, 124 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: something I guess I've realized you have to be aware 125 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: of in this town is that if you're going to 126 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: step up there do a media like, everything you say 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: is going to be put under a microscope. And it 128 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: certainly was yesterday for him for you know, some of it, 129 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: I grease. 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't catch much of my shows unfortunately, 131 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: so I don't know exactly. I mean, I have an 132 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: idea because. 133 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 6: I negative, Yeah, my guess is they all My guess 134 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: is they fixated on sort of some of the references 135 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 6: to Belichick and things like that, as opposed to you know, 136 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 6: sort of trying to do things maybe in a little 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: bit of a different way. 138 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: Good Paul, it's almost like you've been going on that. 139 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: Show because we were you know, we were here doing 140 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: doing TV here, so I didn't actually get to do 141 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: my my spot that's I was listening, you know, with 142 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: with with the Boys. But I do think there was 143 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: you know, an element of you know, as Fred said, 144 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: like kind of like that fresh you know start, that 145 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: that that I think we were all looking for. I 146 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: think we got an element of that. 147 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: You know. 148 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: I even you know, kind of silly and it's not important, 149 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: but even the venue, different venue than we used to 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: be in really impressive area of the stadium in the atrium. 151 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: So I just felt like the whole thing was a 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: fresh start. I would admit that there was probably a 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: little too much you know, direct or indirect references to 154 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: Belichick kind of in a negative light for my liking, 155 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: but I thought the overall message was what Mike said, 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: you know, like, this is a guy that I think. 157 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: He stands up there and he's a guy that you 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: can get behind. He's a guy you can root for 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: because I do think that he has maybe some different 160 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: ways of looking at things. And I don't care. After 161 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: twenty four years, I don't care how successful. Sometimes you 162 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: need some different perspectives. 163 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Speaking of what he said, it wasn't at the press conference, 164 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: but Chad in Atlanta writes in he says, I'm sure 165 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: you all heard what head coach of the New England Patriots, 166 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Girod Mayo said about the third overall pick. He said, 167 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: and this was the Steve Burton. Yes, we're going to 168 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: draft the best player at the most important position. To me, 169 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: that at least means a quarterback. Which quarter back, though, 170 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: is the question in my opinion, which seems to be 171 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: a hot take. I say they should trade up and 172 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: get Caleb Williams. I know it's contingent on what the 173 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Bears do, but he is indeed the consensus best player 174 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: at the most important position. I didn't hear that until 175 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: later in the day, and. 176 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, it'spread like wildfire. As soon as 177 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: they put it up on social media. 178 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 179 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: That was so either he's you know, not afraid to say, yeah, 180 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: we're in the quarterback market, or he's putting out a 181 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: little misinformation out there. But it was eyebrow raising to 182 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: hear him say that. Mac Jones was present at the 183 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: press conference, by the way, so it's something to talk about. 184 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: He said, ride and shotgun alongside Matt Smith's. 185 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: So quick funny story. After the press conference, I got 186 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: in the elevator alone and then someone came around the 187 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 4: corner was like, hold that, and it was Mac. So 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: it was me and Mac solo right elevator and it 189 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: was like, you know, a million different things go through 190 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: your mind and we did. You know, it was just 191 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 4: kind of small talk. I was like, you know, where 192 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: are you going? You know, it's like I'm just trying 193 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: to get back to football, Like like, I guess I'll 194 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: put you here. And then there was that moment of like, 195 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: you know, a billion different things you could say to him, 196 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: and what I came up with not not not the greatest, Bob, 197 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: uh have a great off season. It's like that's what 198 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: I should have said. I had nothing. I don't know 199 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 4: what I mean. There were so many things like you know, 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: it's like and so many jokes went through my mind, 201 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: and like, man, they just got you. Marvin Harrison, Man, 202 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: you'd be cooking like you know, but start pumping them 203 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: up a little bit. 204 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: What do you bench? 205 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: How much you bench? But it's so Mac, Like, it's 206 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: so Mac that he's still here, He's still in the 207 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: weight room, like he's still working. He came up. Yeah, 208 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: I mean, and I like, I'm not I'm not trying 209 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: to go back to my take from Tuesday where we 210 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: run it back, but maybe we should just run it 211 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: back with Mac because he's here and he's working hard 212 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: and he's dedicated, y'all. 213 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 7: Oh lord. 214 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 215 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: But uh but no, Mac was there, and and you know, 216 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting to Marcusington. I mean that 217 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: was the big thing I was interested in, just who 218 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: kind of comes up to to, you know, show support. 219 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: Certainly all the front office people and the scouting staff. 220 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: That's what he said to me. 221 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Uh, Bill O'Brien was no Bill O'Brien. 222 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: Marcus Marcus Covington was the only coach. They're all on vacation. 223 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 224 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: Well there were a lot of staff, you know, like 225 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: we saw Smitty. 226 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's personnel. The coaching staff was sent home last week. 227 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: True. 228 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Covington was the only one that I saw. 229 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I'm not telling you to weren't 230 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 3: any others. That was the only one I saw what 231 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I saw. 232 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: Of course, Troy Brown is going to be coaching at 233 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: the at the at the Senior Bowl in a couple 234 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: of weeks. But Bentley, Jones, Mac Jones, Jonathan Jones, Cardona, Cardona. 235 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: And those are five players that I saw at the 236 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: five plus mccordy and Ninkovich is a lumps. 237 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: They hopped up media. 238 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but it was, I mean, it's funny just 239 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: sitting there because I mean, you guys have I guess, Paul, 240 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: you only one you only with party the bills, right, 241 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: Bill Bills. But Fred, you've only had what two or 242 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: two of you? 243 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Pete I had Pete, I had Bill. I had Parcels departing. Yeah, yeah, 244 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: I had Pete departing. 245 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 8: Yeah. 246 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: That was another thing that got that got mentioned with 247 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: the little crossfire there on parcels. Yeah, and uh and 248 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 4: and and Girodd's line of I needed a break from 249 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: Bill and they would look on Probert Kraft's face when 250 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: he said that just kind of like, yeah, tell me 251 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 4: about it, Like it looked like one of those. But 252 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, I didn't think it was all. You know, 253 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: there were definitely moments where you read in between the 254 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: lines about you know, kind of what they're you know, 255 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: certainly that the game has changed a lot over this time. 256 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: Don't want to be in an echo chamber. 257 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so those things I think you're easy. 258 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: But I also I mean, and I wrote a piece 259 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: on it, and I mean I highlighted too. Just I 260 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: like the hard work works. I like that. I mean that, 261 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 4: you know, I think is of all the tenants of 262 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick my two you know, guys really work hard 263 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: here and and you know, I think short term focus 264 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: on the immediate, what can you do right now? Those 265 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: are two big things I always took away from Bill. 266 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: So I mean, I do think that, you know, he 267 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: sprinkled in a couple of compliments, but I think. 268 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: It was interesting to hear it. And I knew the 269 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: answer to this without hearing Robert say it. But why 270 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Drod Like? What what was it about him? And you know, 271 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: and he went back to when Belichick left here in 272 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: ninety seven, and his instinct was to hire him, but 273 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't do it. He didn't do it 274 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: because it was just too close to parcels. And that 275 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: was the whole part when you were talking about, Yeah, 276 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: and he didn't do it, And he said, that was, 277 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, one of the few times where I went 278 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: against my instinct and I was wrong. And so I 279 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: jumped at the chance when I had it again in 280 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: two thousand to get Belichick and and but this time 281 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I listened to my instinct. And you know we talked 282 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: about when he brought him over to Israel. I would 283 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: have loved to hear what it was on that trip 284 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: that you saw that really impressed you. And maybe at 285 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: some point we can get your Rod on the show 286 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: and we can talk to him about that. But I 287 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: would you know, I get what Robert why he did 288 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: what he did. You know, his instincts said this is 289 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: the right guy for the job. And you know some 290 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: people might say, well, that's not the. 291 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: Way to make decisions. 292 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: I feel a little comfort for that because throughout Robert 293 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Kraft's life, his instincts have done pretty well for him. 294 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, so if a guy like that tells me 295 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: my instincts, tell me that the most critical position on 296 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: this team. This guy's right for it. And you know, 297 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: let's let's face it, if Girod doesn't do well, it's 298 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: not good for the Crafts. 299 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: And so this is all Yeah, that's the spotlight now. 300 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if he's saying that, that gives me some comfort, 301 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: and I would think for Patriots fans, I'm telling you 302 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: you should take some comfort in that too, just my advice. 303 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: You don't have to, but my. 304 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: Advice loves to you how you should. 305 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but my advice is to take comfort in that 306 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: because it's coming from a guy whose instincts have served 307 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: him well over time. 308 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting you brought that up, friend, because I 309 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: found myself asking the question of was it a mistake, 310 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: like was it't a like? Would it have worked the 311 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: same way if he had just hired Bill, if he 312 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: had gone from Parcels to Belichick? Or was there some 313 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: kind of value that was taken out of having Pete 314 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 4: Carroll here? For I think it was. 315 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Good for the Crafts to go of the direction which 316 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: they did with Pete a player's guy, a guy, you know, yeah, 317 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: and to learn from that because the way they did 318 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: it was wrong, and the whole structure after parcels was wrong. 319 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: It was too many cooks in the kitchen. There wasn't 320 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: that singular, you know voice, and it didn't work out. 321 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: And I felt bad for Pete because it wasn't fair 322 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: to him. Now say WHOA, Okay, so what's happening now? 323 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: Seems like there's too many voices. We'll see, we'll see. 324 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I hope though, that they don't make that same mistake 325 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: where you know, various people are answering to different people. 326 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: You can't have that. You cannot have that. I'm sorry. 327 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, Fred, because I think if 328 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: he had gone right to Bill. I think one of 329 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: the things at the time that was talked about was 330 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: that they wanted to sort of be more involved, and 331 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: there was a lot of stories, some of them kind 332 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: of legends, some of them actually you know, based in fact, 333 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: but about how they were, you know, intimately involved in 334 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: the draft and the players and scouting and you know, 335 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: you know, do you remember the infamous line that Robert 336 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: used about to Bucky Jones, calling him a press corner, 337 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, stuff like that that really like rubbed people 338 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: the wrong way. So I think if Belichick had come 339 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: in then and wanted all the you know, sort of 340 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: to eliminate that it would have been butting heads, just 341 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: like he was with parcels, and the fact that Pete 342 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: came in and it allowed him to see, Okay, maybe 343 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: I don't want all of this stuff because it's going 344 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: to cause me to get mocked a little bit in 345 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: the in the me then Belichick was able to come 346 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: in three years later and say, Okay, this is the 347 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: way we want to do things, and he knew that 348 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: Robert was very conscious of that negative publicity that he 349 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: got by Yeah. Yeah, So I think it was a 350 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: better time. 351 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: It was a good learning experience for a young owner. 352 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: And people say, if you don't make mistakes, then you're 353 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: not stretching yourself, you're not challenging yourself. And I think 354 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: that was a good opportunity for them to learn. 355 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: Another interesting thing I thought came out was Michael Hawley 356 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: seemed very like suddenly assured that they're going to hire 357 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: a GM did I don't know if you guys saw that. 358 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: He was talking about it a little bit last night 359 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: and he said, I don't know where he got that from. 360 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: If he were mac Row and Elliott Wolf, he would 361 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: get there. They would get they should get their resumes ready. 362 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 3: I think he's one for two. I think one of 363 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: those guys will stay, and I think it's Wolf. 364 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: Do you think they're kind of auditioning over the next 365 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: couple of months? 366 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 8: Is that? 367 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 368 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how long Grow will 369 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: be here. 370 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 8: Yeah. 371 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone down there at this point 372 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: that can say, I know I've got a job. 373 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 7: No. 374 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: But but knowing that the draft is three months away, 375 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: even if you're playing ultimately, is to hire a GM. 376 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: I think you got to keep Elliott Man around because 377 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: they've done all the work. You know, you don't want 378 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: to have to start over. 379 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: If you don't hire someone, then you absolutely have to 380 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: because you can't just go with like a collaborative and 381 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: Girod's going to be involved in it and whoever else 382 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: is going to be involved in it, and then you 383 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: don't have Matt and Elliott Wolf to sort of weigh 384 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: in and ride all your scouts. You have to keep. 385 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: But I think if you got somebody and then you 386 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: wanted to sort of restructure your personnel department, I think 387 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: you could do that. But you know, in O one, 388 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: you know Peoli came, Yeah, but they still kept Bobby Green, right, It's. 389 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: Very common for the existing structure to stay until the 390 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: draft and then they go. 391 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 4: If you bring a guy in early though to kind 392 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: of a maybe. 393 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: Yea, I think if you're planning on hiring a GM, 394 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: which I don't know that they are, right, we certainly 395 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: didn't get any insight into that yesterday. That's why I 396 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: was no insight. I don't think into that yesterday. But 397 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: if they're planning on hiring one, I think sooner or 398 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: rather than. 399 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: It may not. If they do, it may not even 400 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: have the title of GM. It could be executive director 401 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: of Player Personnelity. 402 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: Certainly won't have general manager because it seems like they're 403 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: really conscious of that they have never had a general manager. 404 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: Well that's again Bill was the GM. 405 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: Again, you don't have to be children had a guy 406 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: who's served in that role. 407 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, But what I think, going back to what I said, 408 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: I think you do need that person who has the 409 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: ultimate say. You know, the times where they didn't on 410 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: this team toward the end of ourselves, it caused problems, 411 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: and certainly during Pete it caused problems. Things settled when 412 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: Bill came and a person had the ultimate say, you know, 413 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: you that has to happen. 414 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: Like right, and it's just history repeating itself with the 415 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: same thing with Terry Glenn when you know that was 416 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 4: the draft pick. And I think they're facing a similar 417 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: kind of not crossroads, but just this it's a hard 418 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: decision to make when you need you need to turn 419 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: the franchise around, you need, you know, Girod talked a 420 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 4: little about the offense. What does the offense need, Like 421 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: I mean, in a perfect world, you can draft that 422 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: quarterback that you can march out there, just like they 423 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: did with Mac And it was like wow, you know, 424 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: you just felt this new energy and this is a 425 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 4: new team now and this guy's gonna lead us, and 426 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 4: you know it's it's I can see how a new 427 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 4: group would want to make that pick and not try 428 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: to come out and sell the we need to draft 429 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: the tackle guys, like you know, even with the wide receiver. 430 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: It's like, but even even even in a collaborative environment, 431 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: which is good at the end of the day, not 432 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: there's no way you can always agree on everything, right. 433 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: At some point, somebody's got to make the decision, right, 434 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, even to the stupid things like we do 435 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, I try to be as collaborative as possible 436 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: include people. But there's sometimes where I just have to say, Okay, 437 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. 438 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you know the decider, you gotta have the designer. 439 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: Right, friend's right, Like what happens if Okay, so we'll 440 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: go back to Gerard's sort of you know comment to 441 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: Steve Burton, you know, which may or may not have 442 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: been one hundred percent serious. So let's just say that. Okay, 443 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 3: you know we're all in agreement. Right, we got to 444 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 3: take a quarterback. But what if Gerard likes Jaydon Daniels 445 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: and you know, Elliott Wolf likes Drake may or what 446 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: if someone else comes in, What if Matt grow comes 447 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 3: in and says, you know what, neither one of these 448 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: two guys in the answer, We need to do everything 449 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: we can to trade up and get Caleb Williams, who 450 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: makes the final call as to what you're going to do. 451 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 4: Not to mention all the personal angles that everyone's going 452 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 4: to have. For Elliot Wolf might be making this pick 453 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: to get the job. Gerard needs long term success. He 454 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: needs to put you know that, and and and I 455 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: also can't help but look at it through Gerard's defense guy, 456 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 4: Is he really going to draft an offensive lineman? You know, 457 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: like it's just like as a defensive offensive lineman, like 458 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. It's just all those kind 459 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: of bias and and and you know experience that you 460 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: have when then the game comes into play. It's uh tough. 461 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: I just found it hard to be like, does Gerard 462 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: have any clue who they're gonna pick at this point? 463 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 4: Like I don't know. Part of me wonders if he 464 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: got a little bit over his skis on that one. 465 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: And it was kind of a lesson of you can't 466 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: really play coy with this because everyone's going to read 467 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: into it what they want to. And like I said, 468 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: everything's dissected. You gotta be. 469 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: Careful, I'm gonna say, and you guys are gonna laugh 470 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: at me and say, what the hell is he talking about. 471 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: I think that there were times yesterday when Gerard was 472 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: so intent on showing you how he is the anti 473 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: Belichick that he probably got himself well the situation. 474 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: Came out and said it. He came out and said, 475 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: you can probably tell just by listening to me right now. 476 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: It's another to me, unnecessary shot. But I do think 477 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: that he was so intent on coming across in a 478 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: different way that maybe he ends up saying, you know, 479 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna be an important position. 480 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: I just hope that what we saw yesterday is drawn Mayo. 481 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: In other words, that's who he is, and he's not 482 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: putting on a show. You know, I think no one, 483 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: no one succeeds if they're not true to themselves. You know, 484 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: players can see through that in an instant. They know 485 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: when you're bs ing them, they know when you're putting 486 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: on a show. You know, they know when you know, 487 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia comes in wants to be mister tough guy 488 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: in Detroit, and guys aren't buying it because they can 489 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: tell that's that's not offen. 490 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: People ask me, right, you know, like what were you 491 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: what were your impressions? And that was the first Really 492 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: my only takeaway is that he was intent on showing 493 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: everybody that he is not going to fall into the 494 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: trap that McDaniels did, that, Mangenie did that, as Fred 495 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: just alluded to Matt Patricia did. He's not going to 496 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: try to be Bill. He's not going to replicate He's 497 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: not going to try to replicate how Bill did everything. 498 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: But you know, that was that was painfully obvious yesterday. 499 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: But I'm also saying, if that is your tendency, then 500 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: you should lean into that. Don't worry about being, you know, 501 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: a disciplinarian if that's who you truly are, are you. 502 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: Know, because that's what your point about. I hope that's. Yeah, 503 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: that's he's not trying to put on a show. 504 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Because it's it's no good if you're like mister player's 505 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: coach and then you're one and four and all of 506 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: a sudden you turn into you know, sergeant, sergeant whatever. 507 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's not good either. You have to be consistent. Yeah. 508 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: No, he seems like he has a pretty good sense 509 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: of who he is. And I mean just over the 510 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: last two years, whenever we've talked to him, it's always 511 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: when I get my own ship or so, it just 512 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 4: seems like mentally he has been preparing for this and 513 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: you know, understands everything that comes with it. But even 514 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 4: if you understand it, it's overwhelming. And I think, as 515 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: we saw yesterday, the smallest little misstep with your words 516 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: can kind of come back to bite you a little bit. 517 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 4: And it's it's the hard part of this job is 518 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: everything you do is under the spotlight now, yeah. 519 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Yep, and you know, I you know, I hope that 520 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: like if he's getting feedback, oh you should have said that, 521 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: should have said that, that that that doesn't discourage him, 522 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: and that all of a sudden now he's clamming up, 523 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, just do it in a more thoughtful, thoughtful way, 524 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: you know. You know, Parcels always said I'm in the 525 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: business of getting information, not giving it, and that should 526 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: hold true for every coach. But there's a way to 527 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, give information without giving information and still being friendly, 528 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, so we'll see. It's it's a whole new world. 529 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: There's a million reasons why, you know, we're all rooting 530 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: to work, but to me, as big as any is 531 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: just to show that you don't have to do it the. 532 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: Other way, right, there's different ways to do it. 533 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: You don't have to be you know, secretive with absolutely 534 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: everything that you have. I'm not telling you to give 535 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: us the game plan, no one's looking for that. But 536 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 3: you can be like Girod was yesterday and that doesn't 537 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: sacrifice your chances of winning. 538 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree, And especially as we've gotten into 539 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 4: where the team hasn't been as good and it's you know, 540 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: having a finger on every single detail. It's like, man, 541 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 4: like you're losing the forest for the trees here. We're 542 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: you know, trying to break down these little nuances and 543 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 4: it's like, just get the special teams to not you know, 544 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: top the ball up or turnover. But I I think 545 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 4: he's I think he's he's doing it the right way 546 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 4: at least to start. But it's you know, there's a 547 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: lot of challenges and you know, I I'm trying to 548 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: think of what else you know, kind of stuck out 549 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: to me, just uh, like the weight room stuff. I 550 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 4: don't know, there's just some interesting things that kind of 551 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: pop through that you're like, what what's that mean? You know, 552 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: the little little nuggets like those Deron Mayo And if. 553 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: You think about it, you know that you know Vinci code. 554 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: But even Felgrim as you know, getting into the squats 555 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: and all that. You know, the word squats gets in 556 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 4: and you know or well, we know that that was 557 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: kind of the. 558 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: Old coach about Yeah, that's kind of some of the 559 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: things that I'm talking about. 560 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: You know, was it on purpose or you know, because 561 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: sometimes these things it seems like but you know, it's 562 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: like you want. Sometimes I wonder, I'm like, are these 563 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 4: just are talking points? Like are these things that they 564 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 4: even really cross these guys? Right? 565 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Aar. 566 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 4: But I think what that, you know, showed me that yes, 567 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 4: yes it does. And I mean I think there was 568 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: an effort to, like to Paul's point, to try to 569 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: you know, see things are going to be a little different. 570 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I would think that, you know, he didn't 571 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: elaborate on it, but when he's talk about weight room, 572 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: it's how hard are you doing the things that you 573 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: need to be doing? Like not everybody needs to be 574 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: doing squads, maybe you need to be doing something else, 575 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: but are you working hard at that something else? You know? 576 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Because when you're in the weight room, you know, you 577 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: fool around, you listen to music, you know, but you're 578 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: in there to do to achieve a goal, to get bigger. 579 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing you know or whatever? You know? 580 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: So I should go I'd like flowing around. 581 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: Maybe over his years he's learned that you do learn 582 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: a lot from a guy and how he does his 583 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: work in the weight room, you know, maybe that's his experience. 584 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: So I look again, I go back to what I said. 585 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: I I get comfort that Robert Kraft without ever seeing 586 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: this guy be a head coach, believes that he can 587 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: be a head coach, you know, because a lot is 588 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: riding on this for him, a lot. 589 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: And I seem to identify it pretty quick. I mean, 590 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 4: clearly knew him as a player. But then I mean 591 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: what I mean, he came back here in like March 592 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 4: of twenty nineteen. I think they went to Israel sometime 593 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: later that spring, so I mean it was, you know, 594 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: it had to be on his mind pretty quick, that 595 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: this guy. And I mean, you know, as you've been saying, Fred, 596 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: it's you know, what are those traits? What are those 597 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: things that that make somebody, you know, a leader? And 598 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 4: everyone just says, oh, he's a leader, he's a leader. 599 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: What you know? What is it? 600 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: Right? 601 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: I think Evan's back in the back room trying to 602 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: trying to dial down on that with with some of 603 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: his old teammates. So maybe he'll have an answer, yeap, 604 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: all right? 605 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: Eight five to five PATS five hundred is the Ace 606 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: ticket houtline. Web radio at Patriots dot com is the 607 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: email address. Other news, uh Bill. The Cowboys have officially 608 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: said that they're not getting rid of their coach. Doesn't 609 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: look like the Eagles are either. Because Siriani is doing 610 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: interviews for coaches. 611 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: I hold off on that one. 612 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I. 613 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: Already did that. They did that with Doug Peterson. 614 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? 615 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: And they didn't get the answers they were looking for 616 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: and then they fined. Right, So we'll see. Maybe Siriani 617 00:27:59,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: has the right answer. 618 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: Maybe, but I still think that Atlanta's the best options. 619 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: You know, we had another in second. 620 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think, you know, for Bill, this 621 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: is the most upside, uh with the least downside. If 622 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: you go to Dallas and you don't do better than 623 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: what they've been doing, then you know, are you really 624 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: that good? And even if well, if you go to 625 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta and you make the playoffs, oh my god, you're 626 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: the best. 627 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: If you go to Dallas and you and you do 628 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 3: really well, there will be naysayers that say, well, yeah, 629 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: you needed to go and get the ready made team, 630 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: right right. You just you know, you're a better coach 631 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: than Mike McCarthy, so you put him over the top. 632 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: And no one would argue that he's not a vastly 633 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: superior coach to Mike McCarthy, you know, except for now 634 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: all Patriots fans, but you know, you know what I'm saying. 635 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm just so interested to see what what he installs 636 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: and is it, you know, the full Bill Belichick regime. 637 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: You know, this is how everything's going to be from 638 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: the top to the very bottom or is it gonna be? Look, 639 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 4: I don't I mean I was reading a little bit 640 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: about Atlanta's GM on office structure and how they have 641 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: decision making, you know, I mean, is it it almost? 642 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: I mean we talked about there's no way it was 643 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: gonna happen here. You were gonna take personal away from him. 644 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: But it's almost like, wouldn't he love to just like 645 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: just focus on coaching the team? Don't you know, have 646 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: to worry about everything. I just I wonder where he's at. 647 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: Or he looks at that that way and says, yeah, 648 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: I I need to say, but I don't have to 649 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: have thus say, and you know, just give me control 650 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: of the team, you know, I mean, whereas that wasn't 651 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: going to be the same here. 652 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 4: He's like b Jeon Robinson anything. 653 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about like he 654 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: could never do that here because he had it and 655 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: it would be something that was taken away, whereas if 656 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: he goes to another team, he doesn't have anything anything, 657 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: it's all new, and so he might be willing to 658 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: settle for not full control. But you know, if he 659 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: stays true to himself, he knows that's the way to 660 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, yeah, that any team needs that person who. 661 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 3: Has also, don't forget that he's yeah, I agree, but 662 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: don't forget that he's probably what is he looking at it? 663 00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: Two year window? 664 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: No, but he wants to win. 665 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: No, No, I know, so he's gonna say, yeah, I 666 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: don't need that, but he's going to do it. Yeah, 667 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: it's you know what I. 668 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Mean, because he believes that's the way to win. 669 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 7: Right. 670 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: But we can have like we can butt heads for 671 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: a couple of years and by the time you know, 672 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 3: those really become problems, I'm ready to go. Yeah. It's 673 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: like point right. 674 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: It's like everyone says, oh, Parcels went to Dallas and 675 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: everything was fabulous. No, it wasn't. There was a reason 676 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: he left. 677 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, you know it was fine. That was a 678 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: short term. That was like an arranged marriage. That was 679 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: all for the that was all for the stadium, right, it. 680 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Will that it wouldn't have lasted beyond. 681 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: No, but they both sides went in knowing it. 682 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 683 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Parcels does say it was it worked fine. 684 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: He thinks that Bill would have been fine there, and 685 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: I agree, yeah. 686 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: Because period exactly. 687 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't think Bill could go to work 688 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: for Jerry Jones for twenty four years and have it worked. 689 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: No, I don't think that would anybody could. Do You 690 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: think big Gym is going to get an Atlanta Falcons 691 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: hoodie to kind of troll. 692 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: Then no, because he's team Tom. 693 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: Team just didn't know if that's you know, I would 694 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: call him out. 695 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: You remind me, I'll call him for you. I know, 696 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: you get your feelings shirt on those things. 697 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Well, you know that's another thing. You know. We'll get 698 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: to the calls and emails in a minute. But the 699 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: feeling that we had when Tom left verse the feeling 700 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: that we have or versus is a. 701 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: Verse versus versus unless you're a kid verse. 702 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, let versus the feeling we have now with Bill leaving. 703 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: And I would say with Tom leaving, we were much 704 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: more sensitive about did he say goodbye? Did he say 705 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: he loves us? And with Bill not so much of that. Yeah, 706 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: you know I would say, I mean, because he never 707 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: gave us that anyway, you know, it's great. 708 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: Did get choked up when he talked about the fans? 709 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: No, I know he did, But I'm just talking about 710 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: fans like like, oh, is he gonna is he gonna 711 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: say goodbye to us? Is he going to do this? 712 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: But that's my point is Bill did do that. That's 713 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: the part that he got emotional lot. 714 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I feel a lot different about this, 715 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: and like like I'm kind of like Evan was, like, 716 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: just the sight of Brady in the Tampa uniform, it's 717 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: just right. 718 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Will you have the feeling if you don't think I will? 719 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think so either. 720 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: What was worse for you seeing Brady in the Tampa 721 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: or seeing him in the Patriots. 722 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Which hates him anyway? 723 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: You good, Peter Brady distracted? 724 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you walked on your own joke. But I don't 725 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: think people will be that upset seeing him in the Falcons. Now, 726 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: if he wins a Super Bowl, that could be a 727 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: different story, you know, but just seeing him on the 728 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: sideline and winning games, I don't think people will have 729 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: the the reaction that they did with Braid. 730 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't feel the emotional investment of it. 731 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is at this point. I 732 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: just I kind of like would just I'm more curious. 733 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 4: I'm more curious than anything of just to see what 734 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: it looks like somewhere else with him, because Tom was Tom. 735 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: Tom's gonna go down there, He's going to be Tom. 736 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: He's gonna do Tom. But like Bill, like does it 737 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: completely not work? 738 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: Like I don't know, Like Brady's first game and I remember, 739 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: I want to say it was New Orleans, but I 740 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 3: remember really looking forward to that first game. I wanted 741 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: to see what it looked like. I wanted to see 742 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: if he could still play. And you know, like those games. 743 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: You remember that first year that they lined it up 744 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: so they would double headers every week, you know it 745 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: was Patriots and then yeah, Bucks almost every week and 746 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: we would glued to the red zone. I don't have 747 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: that for Bill, And I don't know if it's just 748 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: because it's a coach. 749 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 4: He's just standing there on the side and you. 750 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Don't have the same But you know, yeah, I'll be 751 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: keeping track of whether or not he wins. I'm not 752 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: going to say I'm I don't care but I don't 753 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: really care. I don't It's not as important to me. 754 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: Does this team buy into what he's selling? I mean, 755 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: are they still you know, do their. 756 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: I'd like to see, you know, the things that I'm 757 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: interested in is does he try to play the same 758 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: way Robinson? Well, no, you know for him it would 759 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: be no be Jahn Robinson, you're too town. Did you 760 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: go sit over there? Algier, you go sit over there, 761 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: cord Aero Patterson, You're going to be my jack of 762 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 3: all trades because you play on all four downs, You're 763 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: going to get the majority of time. 764 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: Like right, just totally up the alp Car obviously for. 765 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: Those of you out here that you know that the 766 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: the died in the world. But Bill, guys, I'm joking. 767 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 3: I'm making an exaggeration to prove a point. But I mean, 768 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: does he try to They have a good like Atlanta? Okay, 769 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: they do have a really good defense, like on paper. Now, 770 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm not going to pretend to tell you that I 771 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: can give you the too deep you know, I mean 772 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: a j Terrell. You know that's you know, that's about 773 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: as far as I go, Like, I don't know all 774 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: the personnel. I know, Jesse Bates. You know that secondary 775 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: they played really well last year. That to me, that's 776 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: what he wants to do. I want to lean on 777 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: this defense and if I can get a quarterback, if 778 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter is the guy, and I can find a 779 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: way to make him not make any mistakes and we 780 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: you know, I think I can win doing that. And 781 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 3: does he continue to play that way or does he say, 782 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 3: you know what, that's how they played last year, That 783 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: how Arthur Smith plays. They ran the ball, they played defense, 784 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: and they went seven and ten. Yeah, so does he 785 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: try to do it different? 786 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: Kathy in Texas wants to know Mike which one of 787 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: uh ask Mike which one of his friends in Atlanta 788 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: will be taking over the hoodie database. She just loved 789 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: this effing show so much. 790 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: Thank you. 791 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: That's not very nicely said too. 792 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: I like that. 793 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. 794 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 9: Sometimes you have friends in Atlanta. 795 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't. But I can always just look at a 796 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: picture and see what he's wearing him right down. 797 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: You can keep it up. 798 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: I don't have to write. 799 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: Should you put an add out for a freelancer? 800 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: You just have to have an ask Rick on all 801 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: the entries from this point. 802 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: On, I suppose I should twenty five dollars a week 803 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 3: must watch beginning of Falcons game report on a tire. 804 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: It was, it was. 805 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: I mean, this was the most lackluster hoodie sees. I mean, 806 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 4: I don't have to tell you, guys, I'm sure you're 807 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 4: well aware of it already, but the most lackluster hoodie 808 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: to all time. Like he just I mean, he wore 809 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: that won a couple of times. There was no real 810 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: blast in the past. Maybe one time. 811 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: But what if in Atlanti starts wearing a suit on 812 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: the sidelines. Well, you know, that's just complete one eighty. 813 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 4: It's one of life's great questions. Fred of why did 814 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 4: Bill just all of a sudden this year decide to 815 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 4: wear button down shirts to button down shirt, rolled up 816 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: sleeves every press conference. 817 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: I have a theory. M yeah, it's a conspiracy theory. 818 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: I like it. He didn't want to wear Patriots stuff anymore, 819 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: not that he ever did. Sometimes he turned it out 820 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: inside out, but at least you knew you'd see the 821 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: sitrat He didn't. He wanted completely to not wear any 822 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Patriot stuff. So this was the way. You say, well, 823 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm wearing button down that's a good way of doing 824 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: it without, you know, just wearing a sweatshirt. 825 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: I'll just look presentable, right, So that's you. 826 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: Know, But really it was because he didn't want to 827 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: wear the logo. 828 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh down the rabbit hole, you know me. 829 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: I like to send the messages, but I mean, like 830 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: the whole years. 831 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead, yeah, go ahead. Yeah. By the way, I 832 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: have a newfound appreciation for Hardy. I found out yesterday 833 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: morning that he's into magic and I am too. Really, 834 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm proud to say it. I'm not afraid to say it. 835 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 4: Can you do well? 836 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: I have an extensive collection of tricks really, yeah, I'm 837 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: more of a gadget guy, like close up magic type 838 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: of stuff. But I don't have them from video. 839 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 4: Now we need to see this. 840 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't have to excuse me. I'm getting all choked up. 841 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: I don't have the patience to get really good at 842 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: it because you know, you just did. I just love 843 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: to do it and find out how it works, you know. 844 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: But I've never had any designs like, oh, I'm gonna 845 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: did you get an act together? 846 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: You didn't have a magician name picked out yet? 847 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 7: Well? 848 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: Was Jake Steele back then too? Yeah? But no, I 849 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: just I've always I've always loved magic tricks and little 850 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: gadgets and stuff like that. And Hardy used to be 851 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: a magician's assistant. He was on the road like women, 852 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: they tore it all over and he was their stage. Yeah. 853 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 4: Really, we're going to ask him about this. I'm never 854 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 4: gonna see him again. 855 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 856 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: Uh. You know Magic Castle in LA that's a that's 857 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: a popular oh yeah, secret kind of but there's some 858 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 4: crazy close up magicians yeah there that they get for 859 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 4: like rap parties and stuff, and you just love that 860 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 4: walking around and they would, yeah, you know, come up 861 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,479 Speaker 4: to you and. 862 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mostly car tricks. 863 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. 864 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: Is that like the guy that does the NFL stuff? 865 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 3: Is that different? 866 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: Who's that? 867 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: Who's that? I don't know? 868 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: Oh he's the mentalist. Oh yeah, yeah no, that's that's 869 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: a different type of magic. But it's the same idea. 870 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: It is magic, right, it's all magic. 871 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know what it is. But he comes 872 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 4: to a lot of those NFL teams and it's like how. 873 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 3: They like, that's what's your pin? 874 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 4: Like what's your phone? Like what's your ATM pin? Just 875 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: don't tell me, just yeah. But there's like seven nine 876 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 4: to five, like everything. 877 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: Comes down to the umbrella of magic. But then there's 878 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: close up magic. There's mentalist magic, there's illusionists where you 879 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: get the big stage production right, you know, but they're 880 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: all magic, you know, the David Blaine type stuff where 881 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: he you know, freezes himself for twenty days. 882 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 4: He holds his breath in a really long time. Yeah, 883 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 4: but I don't know. 884 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: You know, if I knew that with Hardy, I would 885 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: have had this whole line of comment. We wouldn't just 886 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: be able to talk about music. We could talk about 887 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: magic man. We could do the trade and then we 888 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: could talk about it. 889 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: Says he knows some magic, so Hardy would have had 890 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 4: some Yeah. 891 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. And he was a juggler too, like a really 892 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: good juggler, and like he wrote her unicycles, basically, he 893 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be a clown when he was young. 894 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm a good juggler. 895 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: You're a good juggler. I can juggle pretty well, nice, 896 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: like you feel like chainsaws and stuff on fire. 897 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 10: And all that. 898 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 5: I've never tried that, but I probably could give it 899 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 5: to me. 900 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: Really, you're that good. 901 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 5: We had a teacher when I was in the fifth grade. 902 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 5: She left and we had a fill in for the 903 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 5: year in whose secondary job was a clown for Barnum 904 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 5: and Bailey. 905 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 906 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 3: She taught the entire class to juggle. 907 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: I could see uh Afghanistan like juggling rocket launchers, you know, 908 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: and like explosives. Yeah, grenades. Let's take the pin out 909 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: of this one. Let's see. 910 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's make sure it's in the air when it 911 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: goes off. 912 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: All right? All right? So eight five five pass five 913 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: hundred is the a sticked hotline web radio at pages 914 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Let's get to the phones. We'll start with 915 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: Nate in Ohio. What's up, Nate, Nate? I love this, Nate. 916 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 4: Nate. 917 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: Well, we just mentioned Hardy, so that had to happen. 918 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: All right, Nate, call back if you can. Todd is 919 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: in Gardner, North Carolina. 920 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 11: Todd, gentlemen, how are you doing? 921 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: Good talk? 922 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 12: I got two. 923 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 13: Little things that have kind of concerned me about this 924 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 13: moving forwards here with Mayo. Number one, I listened Toggression 925 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 13: for you in a little bit of Andy, and they 926 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 13: felt that there was not enough substance with where the 927 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 13: team is going and how to move it forwards and 928 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 13: who's going to be doing what he said, where's the plan? 929 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 13: And they all they heard was I'm going to evaluate 930 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 13: the team. I'm going to evaluate the team, and that 931 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 13: makes me nervous and leads into my second point, and 932 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 13: I'll take your answers to both these off the air. 933 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 13: My second point is it really feels weirdly like here, 934 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,959 Speaker 13: I'll put it out there. I'm going, if if mac 935 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 13: Jones is not on the team starting next season, like 936 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 13: not as the starter, but on the team somehow somewhere, 937 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 13: I'll buy you guys lunch, because it just feels like 938 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 13: they're the way they attack Bill, the way they said 939 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 13: they know, we got to evaluate everybody here, it's like, 940 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 13: we know what we're doing. Bill's out of the office. Now, 941 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 13: you know we got this. This is going to go on. 942 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 13: And it's almost as if they're especially Mayo, felt like 943 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 13: they had to prove something now and I'm like, guys, 944 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 13: just get rid of mag Jones. We start just focus 945 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 13: on offense. And that's kind of my fear that they 946 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 13: think that they can do something and I'm worried about that. 947 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: Okay, take care, guys. Thanks listen. I understand people want answers, 948 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 1: but I also understand that he probably is looking at 949 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: everybody that's currently on the staff, and do I keep 950 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: this person or do I not? If you start talking 951 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: about how you're going to change the offense all of 952 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, if it's you know, I'd love to do 953 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: more mobility. Mac Jones knows he doesn't have a giant 954 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: you know, so like you can't get too specific yet 955 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: or else. It has a trickle down effect to individuals 956 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: who may or may not be here. So it is 957 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: too early for him to give you those details now. 958 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: If a month from now we still have the same 959 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: questions now, I'm worried. Yeah, but I would hope that 960 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: in short order a lot of this stuff starts to 961 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: get revealed to us. 962 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, something's working on. I mean, I was, I mean, 963 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 4: I was just a little bit more encouraged that it 964 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 4: sounded like they might actually look outside and hire some people. 965 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 4: Like to me, going into that press conference yesterday, which 966 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 4: is what it was, it was a press conference, I 967 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 4: didn't expect them to you know, chart out the whole plan. 968 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 4: But at least I felt like it seems like they're 969 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 4: going to be interviewing people, They're going to still be 970 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 4: considering people. It didn't feel like a possibility to me 971 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 4: heading in, it seemed like they were basically just gonna 972 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 4: run it back. 973 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: With what I'm with, Fred, it's too early, like I 974 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they could. Sis is wrong 975 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 3: because they didn't give you anything yesterday. But it's too 976 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: early to be worried about it because they don't have 977 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: anything to give you yet. And I think they're going 978 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 3: to go outside too. I don't think they have a choice. 979 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 3: I think all the offensive guys are gone. They're not 980 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 3: coming back. That I don't think Bill O'Brien wants to 981 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: come back. So you either going to get a new 982 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator or van put someone that's staying on defense 983 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: and make them the offensive coordinator. I mean, I just 984 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: don't think they're going to have any options. 985 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean and that in itself, I just 986 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 4: feel like is automatically kind of refreshing to just get 987 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 4: off of the offensive coordinators that you've had for the 988 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 4: past what twenty years. I mean, those two guys have 989 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 4: been the offensive coordinators for twenty years. 990 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: It's only refreshing if they didn't want them, right, Like, 991 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 3: I just wonder if, well, if given their option, would 992 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 3: they be running it back. That's, you know, to Todd's 993 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: second point about Mac Jones. Yeah, and that would concern me. 994 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 4: I mean another part of it too, is you know 995 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 4: Toroy Brown being named offensive coordinator of the Senior Bowl, Like, 996 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: does that say anything about his job status right now? 997 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 4: I mean it seems like he would be a person 998 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 4: who'd be at the forefront of some of these decisions 999 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 4: that have to be made. And you know, on one hand, Troy, 1000 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 4: I mean he was what he head coach last year 1001 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 4: at the Shrine Bowl. He's an offensive cocordate for the 1002 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. I mean it shows that the league is, 1003 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 4: you know, taking notice of him. I'm tiredly sure why, 1004 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 4: but you know, we'll see how. How was Senior Bowl 1005 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 4: seems I just I thought that was interesting yesterday and 1006 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 4: I wonder how that's going to play out. 1007 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jay in Minnesota. What's up, Jay? 1008 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 11: Hello, guys, second time calling in. I had a couple 1009 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 11: of questions. I had seen that Julian Edelman was talking 1010 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 11: about the top five PAT teams of all time. Yeah, 1011 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 11: and I think his list was number five oh one 1012 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 11: and then four oh seven, sixteen and then fourteen. I 1013 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 11: kind of agree. I would like to see your thoughts 1014 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 11: on that. And then to my actual question, how aggressive 1015 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 11: do you think that Jeron Male would be in the 1016 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 11: draft trading? Do you see him taking what comes to 1017 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 11: him in terms of quarterback and weapons or I don't know. 1018 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 11: I feel like he might be aggressive and. 1019 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know either. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Like 1020 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: there's nothing that I have no indicator about whether he's 1021 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: a trade up guy, a stay put guy, a trade 1022 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: down guy. I don't know. 1023 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 11: Would you like to see him take the people that 1024 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 11: come to him, Like if it ends up being Caleb 1025 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 11: Williams and then Drake Made, do you want to take 1026 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 11: Jane Daniels or. 1027 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 7: No, I may be back. 1028 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,479 Speaker 1: Tell me who's available, tell me, like, let me see 1029 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: their board. 1030 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 4: You know. 1031 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: It's so you know when you talk about that with 1032 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: the draft, there's no like, oh they should always stay 1033 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: put or should they should always be aggressive? It really 1034 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: depends on your scouting. 1035 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: It's hard at three, right, because you know the three 1036 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 3: guys that you're doing, So it's the one you like 1037 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 3: the best. I would like Caleb Williams the best out 1038 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 3: of those three. So yeah, I'd be interested in trading, 1039 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: but at what cost? Like it's it's never just in 1040 00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: a vacuum. 1041 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so you don't want to. 1042 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 11: Have a bad draft, you know, right on his first year. 1043 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 3: Right. 1044 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 11: And then my last question and not take it off there, 1045 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 11: what do you think the expectations are in your eyes? 1046 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 11: And then from Robert Kraft? Do you just want to 1047 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 11: see a better season than last year in a little 1048 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 11: progression or do you think that Robert is expecting, you know, 1049 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 11: a whole new overhaul and maybe even making the playoffs. 1050 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I don't think he's expecting the ladder. 1051 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1052 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to expect that anyway. But 1053 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, personally, I want to see a team that's 1054 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: playing together, not making the mistakes that they made last year. 1055 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: You know, you're upgrading your personnel, You're in the right direction, 1056 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 1: and hopefully you got a quarterback of the future. 1057 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: More young guys would promise, and a plan on offense. 1058 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, talent in place. 1059 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 3: I don't care what the record is, honestly. 1060 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mention the record. 1061 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1062 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, although i'd rather not before and thirteen. 1063 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 3: No, and they probably won't be. Yeah, but it doesn't 1064 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: there any better, No, Like you know, the example I 1065 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 3: used when we were talking about this with somebody yesterday, 1066 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 3: Like you know, like someone goes, well, you know they're 1067 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: gonna go six and eleven, and I go, okay, well 1068 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 3: are they gonna be any better? And he goes, well yeah, 1069 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 3: I go all right, So let's just say that the 1070 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 3: season unfolded and you beat the Colts and you beat 1071 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 3: the Giants? Were you any better? Right? 1072 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: Like? 1073 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 3: Those those two games you lost ten six and ten seven? 1074 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 3: Right Like, so obviously one play could have won both games. 1075 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel any better about anything that I saw, 1076 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: would you, Right? 1077 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 4: No, Yeah, And that's what I mean. I think, just 1078 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 4: you know, we can put all names to the claims 1079 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 4: and that I just they need to rebuild, and like 1080 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 4: it's not a one year plug with number three pick 1081 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 4: into this team and they're going back to the playoffs. 1082 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 4: It's you know, they just they have to be measured 1083 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: and they have to hit on these draft picks like that. 1084 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: This is the mistake that people make, particularly when you're 1085 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: talking about football. Wigi was on this morning, and he 1086 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: made a mistake, and he was making the case, you 1087 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: know that they got they moved too fast on Bill 1088 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: getting rid of them, that he over the last four years, 1089 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: he's only only two of them ad been bad because 1090 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, the COVID year was the COVID year. I 1091 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: throw that out, COVID year. And then and then of course, 1092 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: you know the first year they drafted back, that was 1093 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: a good year. But you have to take everything in context. 1094 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: The second half of that year was not good. They 1095 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: went in the wrong direction, and then there were a 1096 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 1: lot of things besides record that added up to Billlieving 1097 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: and you have to take it all into consideration. And 1098 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,280 Speaker 1: Wigi was not doing He's just simply going by the record. 1099 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 1: And that's the Paul's point. If they're six and eleven 1100 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 1: next year and everything's a mess, that's not better. 1101 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: Like if you still have no offense, but you find 1102 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 3: a way to win a couple more games because the 1103 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 3: ball bounced differently, right, that doesn't make it. 1104 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: You can't go by the record when you're just if. 1105 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 3: You have some like Mike made the point about the 1106 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 3: draft class, if you have some young guys playing prominent roles, 1107 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 3: like more so than you know, like like Gonzalez was, 1108 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 3: if you had like two or three young guys like Gonzales, 1109 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: Like I'm not talking about Keon White, you know what 1110 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Like I'm not I'm not that King of 1111 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 3: White was a bad pick, but it's fine. He didn't. Yeah, 1112 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 3: he was just there. He was out there. Like if 1113 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: you have guys playing prominent roles and playing well, and 1114 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 3: your offense is showing signs of evolving and being more 1115 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 3: productive and more consistent, those would be positive signs regardless 1116 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 3: of what the record. 1117 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: That was the thing with Gonzalez to me, it's like 1118 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 4: you just knew instantly when you like this. This kid 1119 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 4: moves different than everybody else, Like he just you could 1120 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 4: just tell. And there haven't been a lot of those guys, 1121 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,919 Speaker 4: I mean to Wiki's point, And it sounds stupid because 1122 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 4: they went to the Super Bowl in seventeen and eighteen, 1123 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 4: but I would say that this has been a team 1124 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 4: and kind of declined since twenty sixteen when they won 1125 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 4: that Super Bowl against Atlanta and the pieces, you know, 1126 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 4: in credit to Tom Brady and you know Bill's coaching 1127 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 4: to keep it together, but it feels like they've been 1128 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 4: kind of bleeding talent since that point and they haven't 1129 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 4: really been able to put a stop to. 1130 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 3: So let's go back on the original call ranked it. 1131 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, see five teams. 1132 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 3: This is of the dynasty. Because when I'm gonna go 1133 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 3: back too yeah. 1134 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 4: I mean I'd probably just bump seventy eight. I'd bump 1135 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 4: oh one off, you know, for for two thousand and three, 1136 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 4: because I think that was a team that was. 1137 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 3: I would agree really special. Three three was probably number five. 1138 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think fourteen was you know, fourteen might be 1139 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 4: my number one team by in two thousand and four. 1140 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: That's what Edelman said, didn't he say that fourteen he 1141 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: had his two teams. 1142 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 4: He's also fourteen. Yeah, he had sixteen and fourteen. 1143 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't put sixteen anywhere near there, and I 1144 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 3: would put I would put four ahead, I would put 1145 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 3: seven ahead, but then fourteen would be in there. Yeah, 1146 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 3: but you know, obviously everybody has different things that they love. 1147 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in terms of like and again, teams 1148 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: in their era, like the you know, seventeen was kind 1149 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: of ahead of their time in terms of like pinball. 1150 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: But I'm like, I would say seven, three, four, fourteen, 1151 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: and then one would put. 1152 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 3: Three ahead of four or this is no particular order. 1153 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: No, I would I know, I'm sorry, four ahead of three, Okay, Yeah, 1154 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,439 Speaker 1: so four to me, seven, three, four, fourteen, and then 1155 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 1156 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 3: Four to me was as close to a perfect team 1157 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 3: it was they had no weakness, right, but. 1158 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sure like this year, if O four would 1159 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: have the same success. 1160 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, that's different. 1161 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You have to take a judging 1162 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,959 Speaker 1: context of that year. Yeah. 1163 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think I wouldn't want to be lining 1164 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 3: up with like, you know, like. 1165 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 1: I think I think seven. I think, oh seven today 1166 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: would still be good. 1167 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: I mean, uh, the defense would struggle. 1168 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 4: The defense struggled then slow zone defense. 1169 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, if everybody was playing the way they play now, 1170 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: that defense would have been okay. 1171 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: All right maybe yeah, like Ellis Hobbes, Yeah. 1172 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 3: We turned from the other studio. 1173 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, how are you just extended Catch twenty two? 1174 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 3: I didn't know. 1175 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: We're not done yet. 1176 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 4: Catch twenty two after Dark, Alex's seventh round, Sleepers coming 1177 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 4: on catch. 1178 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 14: Up what they call it Felger does like after the 1179 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 14: after show on Facebook Live. 1180 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 4: That's what no. 1181 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: I was. 1182 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 14: I was actually talking to one of the members of 1183 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 14: the twenty fourteen Super Bowl champions, Jamie Collins. Oh and uh, 1184 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 14: he used I said to you. I was joking with 1185 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 14: him that he used to duck us in the locker 1186 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 14: room the media. I mean, uh, totally fair and warranted 1187 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 14: and he would like show his head in and then 1188 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 14: like see us in there and like be line it out, 1189 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 14: and he'd gave me. I was talking to him about 1190 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 14: Grod Mayo and he gave me a great interview. I 1191 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 14: was like, you should have done this more often, like 1192 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 14: you're you got stuff to say, Like he was great. 1193 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 14: And I also talked to one of my personal favorites, 1194 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 14: Brandon Spikes, about Mayo as well, So that was cool. 1195 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 9: You inspired me, Fred, Yeah, so I. 1196 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 1: Think we talked about it and it was your idea 1197 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: about you know, talking about ex teammates from Gerrod, like 1198 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: why you think he could be a good head coach 1199 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 1: And so you're calling a lot of the linebackers that 1200 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: he was closest to. 1201 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 14: Yes, I called, well, you know, pr obviously helps, Aaron 1202 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 14: got me, Jimmie Collins, Brandon Spikes, we're working on High Tower. 1203 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 14: That's like the Golden Goose, right, so we're trying to 1204 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 14: track him down. And I spoke to Rob Nikovitch was 1205 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 14: at the press conference yesterday, so I spoked to him 1206 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 14: a little looking forward to that. Yeah, And Jamie Collins 1207 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 14: said had a great story. 1208 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 9: He said that. 1209 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 14: Girod used to call meetings players only meetings after all 1210 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 14: of the meetings were already done for the day, and 1211 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 14: Gerrod would run the clicker and they'd watch film together 1212 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 14: of the next opponent, and he was like, you know, 1213 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 14: Girod would be in there and you know, he'd run 1214 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 14: the clicker and we'd all be like why do we 1215 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 14: like we want to go home, like why do we 1216 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 14: have to see the Yeah, like why do we have 1217 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 14: to do this? And and then but Jamie said that 1218 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 14: then we get out on the field on Sundays and 1219 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 14: stuff that we talked about with Gerard would come up 1220 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 14: in the game and so I would be like, this 1221 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 14: is why why we do it? And Brandon Spike's mentioned 1222 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 14: just that when he was at Florida, actually that Urban 1223 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 14: Meyer at Florida would circle Girod Mayo at Tennessee and say, 1224 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 14: this is like we cannot let this guy get off 1225 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 14: on us, you know, like this is right, this is 1226 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 14: like one of their you know we always talk about 1227 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 14: like Tuesday players like this is one of their guys. 1228 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,720 Speaker 14: And so that was cool too. But yeah, the Collins 1229 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 14: story about him holding like basically running meetings himself, Yeah, 1230 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 14: as a. 1231 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 9: Player was crazy. 1232 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 4: That's kind of interesting. I forget Paul would hate that 1233 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 4: what Jerad's role was in fourteen and fifteen, those last 1234 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 4: two years, because I know it was hurt for a 1235 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 4: big majority of it. And I think we all remember, you know, 1236 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 4: high towern Collins really emerging in twenty fourteen with you know, 1237 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 4: like those double mug looks up front, and you know, 1238 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 4: they made great use of that stuff. But it almost 1239 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 4: seemed like at that point he was kind of transitioning 1240 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 4: more to a coaching role because he was I mean, 1241 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 4: I want to say twenty fifteen, he I don't even 1242 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 4: know if he played more than just the hand full 1243 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 4: of games, if even and really maybe that that was 1244 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 4: a chance to. 1245 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 14: Yeah, that was there's reporting out there that him and 1246 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 14: Steve Belichick in twenty fourteen that's when they started to 1247 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 14: get a relationship because Gerard would would work with the 1248 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 14: coaches because he was on IR so he would work 1249 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 14: with the coaches, you know, with the game plans and 1250 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 14: stuff like that. But you know, Collins is cool because 1251 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 14: he played with Gerard and then played for Gerrod, so 1252 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 14: it's like that unique thing. And he just said that 1253 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 14: you know, him and Steve Belichick where just they had it. 1254 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 14: No one really knew, like who was doing what. But 1255 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 14: they were so in sync with like everything, and they never, 1256 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 14: like at least out in the meeting rooms, never like 1257 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 14: disagreed in front of the players or anything like that. 1258 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 14: And they were always on the same page. And just 1259 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 14: the way people talk about their relationship really makes you 1260 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 14: wonder if Steve Will will end up staying here. 1261 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder. We don't know yet, no, but it's 1262 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 4: just it's hard to watch that yesterday and hear some 1263 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 4: of the Bill things, and you know, just wonder what 1264 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 4: Steven Bryants thoughts would have been if they had been there. 1265 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, it just seems awkward to. 1266 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,959 Speaker 1: Me they weren't up there. 1267 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm sure they've heard. 1268 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Brent and Reno. What's up Brent? 1269 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 15: Hey, guys, few things and I'll take them both off air. 1270 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 15: Number one and obviously, less importantly, how wild of a 1271 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,240 Speaker 15: pipe dream is it to think of Julian Lleman coming 1272 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 15: back into a offensive coordinator position and number two being 1273 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 15: one of the only Patriots fans on the West coast 1274 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 15: in a forty nine er family, my kids do March fifth, 1275 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 15: and I've already got in Patriots binkies bottles onesies, but 1276 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 15: my mother in law bottom of niner onesie. How do 1277 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 15: I ensure that this boy remains a Patriots fan? My 1278 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 15: wife shot me down on getting a tattooed. 1279 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 3: But anyways, rights, right, it's GOI me tough if the 1280 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 3: forty nine ers win the Super Bowl, because then you 1281 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 3: got all. 1282 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: Ruined. The onesie in the wash, like do something, put 1283 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: some bleach in it and just like destroy it so 1284 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: we can't wear it. 1285 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 3: We got that with might get you out of having 1286 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: to do laundry in the future, right. 1287 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, my kids, we got a lot of Lakers stuff 1288 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 4: from like you know, l A families and so that 1289 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 1290 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's much shot you have of 1291 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 3: Julian Edelman. No, you don't bother me when I'm talking 1292 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 3: to my mama. 1293 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 4: Those have been great. I gotta listen to the whole 1294 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 4: Brady one with Moss talking about all the crazy times 1295 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 4: with those guys. I mean at. 1296 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 3: That impersonations is like perfect, that's just gold. 1297 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 14: Yeah. He I think he likes his job too much 1298 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 14: in the media. He's having way too much fun with that. 1299 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's has he given any indicators like you know, 1300 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: someday I'd like the coach. 1301 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 4: I think anybody wants that. 1302 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 3: He looks like he's enjoying life, like laying on that 1303 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 3: couch when he's doing the podcast. 1304 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 14: By the way, I wonder if the caller maybe he 1305 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 14: got Wes Welker and Julian Edelman that could be Miami 1306 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 14: Wide Receivers coach currently. Yeah, he is on the OC 1307 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 14: track Julian Edelman. 1308 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, and now. 1309 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: He's got the freedom to come back. 1310 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. Right, Mike McDaniel Predigree, Yeah. 1311 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 14: I do wonder if you will see, yeah, that Jirodd's 1312 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 14: the coach, if we will see some former Patriots on 1313 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 14: the staff though, because the two guys I spoke to 1314 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 14: were like, if he calls, I'm coming, you know, oh yeah. 1315 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,479 Speaker 14: And Brandon Spikes is he's at Florida. He's working back 1316 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 14: at the Alma Mada and uh and he's you know, 1317 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 14: he's helping out Florida's program, trying to get them back, 1318 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 14: you know, to where they were when he was there 1319 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 14: and things like that. 1320 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 9: And so is he. 1321 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: Still on the internet. 1322 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: I asked that yesterday. 1323 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know, I'm going to plead you want 1324 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 3: his only fans account a license for that thing. Yeah, 1325 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 3: that was a great That was a great moment in 1326 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 3: PFW and. 1327 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh, you guys just covered the who does 1328 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 4: a Google search of Brandon Spike is junk and Frank goes. 1329 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: I have seen it, I have seen, and then I 1330 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: said it in the EV yesterday and then Paul starts 1331 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: grilling you have you seen? 1332 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 1333 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,439 Speaker 1: Have you seen? 1334 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1335 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 3: I just go I don't get that. I have no 1336 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 3: desires re search. 1337 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 9: You guys should have heard what said yesterday. I'm not 1338 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 9: going to repeat it. It's not for it was. 1339 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 4: It was good good where out of nowhere I didn't. 1340 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 9: Know me and Neil Perry almost fell on the ground. 1341 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 4: Good times and Spikes. 1342 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chris, I'm just gonna add to it. 1343 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: But ye, Chris is in New Hampshire. Hey, Chris, Hey, 1344 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: fellow's going good? 1345 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 4: Hey quick. 1346 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 16: Two quick points about that press conference. The first one, 1347 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 16: maybe it was just two directed to watching Bill, but 1348 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 16: I kind of got used to and started enjoying. Bill 1349 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 16: is just awful interaction with the media, and it was 1350 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,479 Speaker 16: sad do not have that. The other thing was every 1351 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 16: time Mayo called Craft thunder, Yeah, I was don't call 1352 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 16: him thunder and then thunder again? 1353 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, seven times I felt, I'm with you, Chris, thanks 1354 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: for the call. I felt uncomfortable with that me too, 1355 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Me to thunder really like. 1356 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 4: The first one. I was like, oh, that's kind of funny. 1357 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 4: Then like you doing again? 1358 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1359 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, thinking is that why you got hired? 1360 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 4: Like what are we doing? 1361 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 7: Like? 1362 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know Bill used to call him, at least 1363 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 14: call him rock, right, Yeah, I don't have to go 1364 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 14: all mister Kraft like you're the head coach. 1365 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not big on the mister Craft part of 1366 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 3: it for a coach. 1367 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: If I'm the owner, Like, I don't know if I 1368 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: want this guy that I just gave this big job 1369 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: giving me a nickname. 1370 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 4: You know, you gotta be careful giving people nick Yeah. 1371 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: It's like I I hated it that Cam Newton came 1372 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 1: in and immediately started giving people nicknames. 1373 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 4: Screw do you own me? Remember that? Questions? So you 1374 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 4: got nicknames? Can you run them all down for us? Cam? 1375 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1376 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 4: It was a dark year, all right, Yeah we're desperate 1377 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 4: waiting on a zoom call. 1378 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 11: Dirty day smoking Joe, Yeah, I think right. Twin number one, 1379 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 11: Twin number two, I. 1380 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Think half the reason he did is because he couldn't 1381 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: remember people's real name I know, probably like me, I 1382 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: don't know. Hey guy, are you yeah? 1383 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 9: Hey, this one was Niki Harry dough boy. 1384 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Do boy. 1385 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that told you a lot. 1386 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, didn't. 1387 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: And then you know, what's so, what is mac Jones's 1388 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: middle name? 1389 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 9: Everybody knows McClellan. 1390 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 4: Know that. You guys don't even know this. His middle 1391 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 4: name is actually McClellan. 1392 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 7: Lell No, it's it's not. 1393 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to Scott and Wellesley. Hey, Scott, Hey, guys. 1394 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 12: I'm enjoying the show. I said a couple of quick 1395 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 12: questions about Yeah, first of all, you know the report 1396 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 12: that bit Ard had a few weeks back that people 1397 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 12: said that they would rub people the wrong way in 1398 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 12: the building. You know, in light of that, it made 1399 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 12: me feel like a lot of the comments that Maya 1400 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 12: were making were small gigs at Bill, and I wondered 1401 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 12: if you guys got that impression. And then my second question, 1402 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 12: essentially was when Kraft talked about how he was thinking 1403 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 12: about hiring Belichick in ninety six, but he had such 1404 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 12: a bad relationship with Parcels and he didn't know if 1405 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 12: he could trust Bill. If that's the case, and given 1406 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 12: you know, obviously all the leaks have been going towards 1407 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 12: from the crafts towards Bill. Now, how would he feel 1408 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 12: about keeping the Belichick kids around, you know, because he's 1409 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 12: still try giving the teams like there aren't big feelings 1410 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,320 Speaker 12: going towards Bill from him or either his coach. And 1411 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 12: but the last thing was I couldn't stand the thunder 1412 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 12: thing either. It killed me every time he said it. 1413 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 17: Yeah. 1414 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: No, it's good questions. And I guess you'll take it 1415 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 1: off the air because I'm just causing you. 1416 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 15: No. 1417 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: I in terms of the kids, Listen, they have a 1418 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: career in front of them. It behooves that them to 1419 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: do if they stay, to do the best possible job 1420 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: they can do and to not undermine themselves by you know. 1421 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 3: I think that's a concern. 1422 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't. 1423 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 3: I I think not not that they're not going to 1424 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 3: do the best possible job. That's not a concern. Yeah, 1425 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. But the father's influence, 1426 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 3: I think that's a concern. 1427 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 1: But again, I go, like I said the other day, 1428 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: if I'm Bill Belichick, even if I'm the head coach 1429 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Falcons, I want my kids to succeed. 1430 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 1: They're my kids. I want them to succeed no matter 1431 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: where they are, you know, so I'm not going to 1432 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: give them negative influence. Okay, that's just my feeling, Like 1433 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: I just putting myself in a father's role. 1434 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, like I'm talking about the kids. No, I know, 1435 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 3: but like if they hear things that they don't. 1436 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Like about Bill, like all to it, I would imagine 1437 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: that after today, after yesterday, there's going to be an 1438 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: organizational effort down there in football to move on from 1439 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Like we're not talking about Bill anymore. It's 1440 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: it's a new regime, I know, But I would imagine 1441 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: that they're going to make every effort to move forward. 1442 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 4: Now, certainly public facing. I mean, I think, like Paul's 1443 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 4: concern of mine too, is that things used to be 1444 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 4: like this around here, but this isn't how it's going 1445 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 4: to be like anything in that game. 1446 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 3: Which was basically the entirety of then. 1447 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: No, I know, but I think after yesterday that's it. 1448 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: And I think I think the message to me anyway, 1449 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: the message it says to me if Steve and Brian 1450 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 1: stay is they're good coaches, and I don't care who 1451 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: your daddy is. If you're a good coach, we want you, 1452 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, and to me, that's a good message to 1453 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the staff. 1454 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 4: That's just my feel I just I can't. I don't 1455 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 4: think it's going to happen. I just can't get on 1456 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 4: beyond the awkwardness of it all. And like the reports 1457 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 4: that they're you know, open to coming back, I just 1458 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really believe it. I mean, I 1459 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 4: think that I think that they're I think the organization 1460 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 4: wants to put forward. Look, they're welcome to stay, but 1461 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 4: everybody knows like they're going to probably go with Dad. 1462 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 4: And I mean I know, and I think and I 1463 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 4: think the best thing for those guys would go somewhere else. 1464 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 4: Just go get a new job, start somewhere out that, you. 1465 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 3: Know, get out of, get out of this cycle, get 1466 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 3: out of don't go to anywhere, don't stay here, go 1467 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 3: somewhere else. 1468 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: But is Steve gonna be able? And I'm just assuming 1469 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 1: that is Steve gonna be able to go somewhere else 1470 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: and be the defensive coordinator because I think he might 1471 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: be here. 1472 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 4: I mean probably not. But I mean they're interviewing people 1473 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 4: for defensive coordinator too, so of course it's I mean, 1474 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 4: I don't know I just I think they do have 1475 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 4: to interview people, right, Oh yeah, yeah, so but I 1476 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 4: just yesterday that you know, the one thing that stuck 1477 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 4: out to me and I we we did this already 1478 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 4: on catch point two. 1479 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 14: But just everybody's gone but Bill. I mean, everybody's here 1480 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 14: but Bill. Right, Like it's like so forward facing, like 1481 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 14: public facing. Bill was the problem. Like that's the way 1482 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 14: the organization is ending it. Like as I sit there 1483 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 14: and I watch macro and Elliott wolf in the entire 1484 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 14: personnel department walk in and Girod up there with Robert, 1485 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 14: the only person that wasn't in the room other than coaches, 1486 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 14: but like that's a different type of situation was Bill. 1487 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 9: So like they just are putting this. 1488 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 3: All on Bill. 1489 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Well, no, there's a lot of people that weren't in 1490 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: the room, Like who Bill O'Brien. 1491 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 3: He said, coaches. 1492 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 14: Yeah, but the coaches those are Bill's coaches, right, that's 1493 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 14: his staff. 1494 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, And Girod made that very clear. I did not 1495 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 9: hire these people. 1496 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 14: So that to me tells me that they really are 1497 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 14: trying to tell us that Bill was the biggest problem. 1498 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 14: And they cut the snake off at the head. 1499 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think he was you know, I think there's 1500 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: no doubt that they're saying that are also he'd still 1501 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: be here. But I think that I think you will 1502 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: see new coaches in here. 1503 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 4: Me too. 1504 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, but I kind of put the coaches in 1505 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 14: the in the billbox. Well yeah, right, so like it's 1506 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 14: all to me, like Bill O'Brien is just an extension 1507 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 14: of Bill, So it's all kind of one. 1508 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: But if Bill O'Brien, if they really wanted him, they 1509 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,919 Speaker 1: he'll be back too. Yeah. 1510 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 4: I mean I think right now, I don't think it's 1511 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,919 Speaker 4: a snapshot. Yeah, I mean, I just think may. 1512 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Not want to be here. But I'm just saying that, 1513 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 1: excuse me. If a coach isn't here, it's for the 1514 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: most part, it's because they didn't offer him a job. 1515 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 4: I I just think we're in a snapshot, a snapshot 1516 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 4: of time right now. And that's it's hard, and it's 1517 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 4: it certainly does look that way at this particular moment. 1518 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 4: But I still hold out hope that the offensive coordinator 1519 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 4: hired that the offensive staff, that that's going to inspire 1520 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,800 Speaker 4: some change, and you know, we'll see with Elliot Wolf 1521 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,959 Speaker 4: and Macrol. I mean, there is an element of truth 1522 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 4: that all these people trained under Bill Belichick and to 1523 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 4: throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak, 1524 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 4: like you don't want to do that. But there's a 1525 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 4: fine line between saying like, look, it was just Bill, 1526 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 4: and now he's out of the way, and now you know. 1527 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: But but every time a head coach gets fired, they 1528 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 1: don't immediately just clear everybody out. There's a process by 1529 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: which who do we keep who who lives. I think 1530 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: it's the same here. 1531 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 3: I just think that I'm going to keep an eye 1532 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 3: on that because there haven't been any coaches hired yet 1533 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 3: so except for this one. So I'm going to keep 1534 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 3: an eye on that because I don't think that's true. Okay, 1535 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 3: I think that they're very unique. 1536 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 14: Like we were sitting like sitting in that in the 1537 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 14: GPA trium, right and the only person that wasn't still 1538 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 14: there was Bill. 1539 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: I know, we just announced him as a head coach yesterday. 1540 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Let's give him a week, you know. 1541 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 3: No, Like, yeah, I'm I'm in between you two guys. 1542 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 3: I understand what you say, thank you for the introduction, 1543 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,560 Speaker 3: here's my staff. But the mic part, I agree with 1544 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 3: you with your mentality on on Stephen Bryant. I kind 1545 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 3: of think that they're going to stay. Like I'm getting 1546 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 3: the vibe that they're going to stay. I just I 1547 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 3: don't really, I don't really, I don't understand it. I 1548 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 3: don't understand why you'd want it. And I think that 1549 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 3: you can make coaches. Yeah, I know that there are 1550 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 3: other good coaches. They're not the only two good coaches 1551 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 3: on the planet. 1552 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,640 Speaker 1: And if they were such good but if you know that, 1553 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: you know who it is is, you know, like yeah, 1554 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: like Evan says, they have to interview for all these jobs, 1555 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: and they're. 1556 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 9: Going to appoint an actual defensive court. 1557 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 3: No, that's different, the defensive coordinator. And he said very 1558 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,879 Speaker 3: that was probably the strongest thing that he said yesterday 1559 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 3: is I do believe in titles. 1560 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: I love that. 1561 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that there's no question that there 1562 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 3: will be a defensive coordinator. 1563 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: You know. 1564 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 4: What I liked about it, though, is that it acknowledged 1565 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,799 Speaker 4: what Bill was trying to do by not getting titles, 1566 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 4: but without getting into the over the top ridiculousness of 1567 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 4: no one gets to know, like I get it, Like 1568 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 4: I understand you want you don't want this hierarchy where 1569 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 4: people are afraid. I understand that inward facing, but you know, 1570 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 4: I thought that was the nuance that jirob pointed out 1571 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 4: that look, they're important outward facing, and I think we 1572 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 4: all believe that if you want to go somewhere and 1573 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,600 Speaker 4: get a job, other companies need to look at you 1574 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 4: and see what you did. But you know, but at 1575 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 4: the same time, I think at least it gave an 1576 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 4: acknowledgment to why was that in place it was, I 1577 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 4: mean there was a purpose. Did they take it over 1578 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 4: the top, take it to kind of crazy degree, sure, 1579 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 4: but you know, I like that aspect of how we 1580 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 4: handled that part. 1581 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 8: Of it all. 1582 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,800 Speaker 4: But one more thing I was gonna say too, Paul, 1583 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 4: is like, it's not just the coaches, it's the players, 1584 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 4: Like the players talking crap about Bill and like, you know, 1585 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 4: like Juju walk a mile, like oh man, we didn't 1586 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 4: do that last year, and then Steve overhears it, you know, 1587 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 4: like it's well, like Jia will button it up and 1588 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 4: the coaches staff won't really talk about it anymore, but there's. 1589 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 3: They won't like it's going to hang over the team. 1590 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 3: If you think that more stuff was mentioned about Belichick 1591 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,759 Speaker 3: in a forty minute press conference in front of the world, 1592 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 3: then we'll be walking around on a random Tuesday in 1593 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 3: the middle of the off season in the weight room. 1594 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, his name is going to come up 1595 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 3: way more behind closed doors than it did yesterday. 1596 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 14: Definitely a value in just as much as you can 1597 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,879 Speaker 14: with it, promoting somebody from within, starting from scratch, to clean. 1598 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 9: Out all of this. 1599 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 14: And I think one of the things that he said 1600 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 14: was that we have to rebuild relationships, which I thought 1601 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 14: was really interesting because I think that goes back to 1602 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 14: like the Badard report that the caller was talking about. 1603 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 14: He knows that there are people that aren't on his 1604 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 14: side that are in this building, and he needs to 1605 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 14: figure out who those people are. I'm not necessarily saying 1606 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 14: that is Stephen Brian, but it might it obviously look 1607 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 14: like it would be Stephen Brian. Maybe it's Bill O'Brien 1608 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 14: who felt like he should have been the heir apparent. 1609 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 9: You know, or whatever. Who knows. But I ultimately that 1610 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 9: that stood out to me a. 1611 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 1: Lot that that's a good takeaway, that comment that he 1612 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 1: made knowing that there were silos, knowing that there was division, 1613 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 1: no echo chambers, and yeah, and it's my job to 1614 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 1: repair that now. 1615 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, a lot of it just seemed like it was 1616 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 14: culture related with Bill, like the culture had erosion. 1617 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 1: And weld we talked about that, you know, two years ago, 1618 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: what would it take for Bill to have to leave? 1619 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: And we talked about the erosion of the locker room? 1620 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, absolutely, Freddie. 1621 01:11:54,840 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Let's go to Michelle in South Carolina. Hey, Michelle, then, 1622 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 1: how are you good? 1623 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 18: But your show's not on enough. 1624 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Our show's not on enough. 1625 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 3: That's a compliment, as Michelle needs to talk to us 1626 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 3: every day. 1627 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I want to keep you wanting more, though, Michelle, I 1628 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: want to keep you wanting more. 1629 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 18: Well, see this is what happens, though I have too 1630 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 18: much to say. Oh okay, hey dude, you looked very 1631 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 18: handsome yesterday. 1632 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you got right on that, right on 1633 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 4: that stream, thanks Michelle. 1634 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 3: This boyish charm. He's married. 1635 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 1: To his database with. 1636 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,720 Speaker 18: Seve Belichick. I was listening to the guys earlier and 1637 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 18: they seem to think he's not going to be highed 1638 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 18: as the defensive coordinator, and that to me seems like 1639 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 18: a reason for him not to stay. But I think 1640 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,879 Speaker 18: it would not behoove him to go with Bill, because 1641 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 18: if Bill's not going to be Atlanta in Atlanta, I 1642 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 18: don't think for more than if he goes there two years, right, 1643 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 18: I mean, I can't imagine he would be there for 1644 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 18: that long. And to talk about breaking the record, that 1645 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 18: to me is the stupidest thing I heard, because it's 1646 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 18: going to get broken by the guy in Kansas City. 1647 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,760 Speaker 1: It might be I don't know. 1648 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he could win it all this year and retire. 1649 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he went there. 1650 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 3: I mean I was thinking this guy, no, but he's 1651 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 3: talked about it the last couple of years. 1652 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: I agree with your first two points, you know, not 1653 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: having heard you know, they they may not offer him 1654 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 1: d C. And if they don't, then he would probably leave. 1655 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 1: And I agree with you that if they go with 1656 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 1: their father to Atlanta, assuming that's or Bill goes, that 1657 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the necessarily the best thing for them. So 1658 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,560 Speaker 1: I agree with those first two things absolutely. 1659 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 18: I mean, yeah, because if they're not gonna want to 1660 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 18: stay in Atlanta, well they might why. 1661 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 3: Not what if it went so well? 1662 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, Steve Belichick, Yeah. 1663 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 3: What if it went so well that three straight titles 1664 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 3: he inherits? The teams? 1665 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 18: Ask is Bill going here? Because is going to give him? 1666 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: First of all, we don't know he's going there. Yeah. Now, 1667 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 1: I would assume that, you know, knowing where Atlanta is 1668 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 1: a college football town, Georgia football is ranks way higher 1669 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: than Atlanta Falcons. But by taking a big swing and 1670 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: getting Bill Belichick, you start to become a little bit 1671 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 1: more relevant. And I think that's the gamble that Arthur 1672 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 1: Blank wants to do in bringing in Bill. So I 1673 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: think if Bill wants more power, he'll get it. 1674 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 14: They do have a GM, and they have a yeah, 1675 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 14: and they like their rosters like, okay, you know they've 1676 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 14: done a decent job with the roster. 1677 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1678 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:07,600 Speaker 9: So I don't know. 1679 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 14: I just I when you look at the musical chairs, 1680 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 14: like the music is starting to stop, and Bill's only 1681 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 14: chair really is Atlanta, I know? I mean, Dallas is 1682 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 14: not hiring a new coach. 1683 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: Paul thinks Philly is still on the I think Philly is. 1684 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 3: Still on the table. 1685 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 14: At least definitely Philly's still on the table. I would 1686 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 14: agree with that. But at the same time, some of 1687 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 14: their players and the exit interviews and stuff like that, 1688 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 14: and on trash back day like one, I think it's 1689 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 14: Fletcher Cox like scoffed at a reporter that even suggested 1690 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 14: that Nick Sirianni could be out of a job like 1691 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 14: he was like, that's ridiculous to even talk about, you know, 1692 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 14: type of like. 1693 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 3: I've been reading about it a little bit and it's 1694 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 3: very similar to the way it was set up with Peterson. 1695 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 3: And they wanted some changes to the staff. They brought 1696 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 3: him in, they wanted a plan. They didn't like his plan. Yeah, 1697 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 3: he didn't like their suggestions and they fired him. So 1698 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe Siriani does what Fred says, but 1699 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 3: he goes there, goes and gets two more experienced coordinate. 1700 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 15: Yeah. 1701 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 9: Like they're not giving away roster control from Howie Roseman though, 1702 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 9: So if he. 1703 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Goes there, he's done a good job. Yeah, Michelle, thanks 1704 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 1: for the call. Paul's foods here, So we've got to 1705 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 1: take a break when we come back. 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Let's listen to some of his introductory 1730 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 5: press conference. 1731 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,879 Speaker 8: It's what I think my family first and foremost. 1732 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 10: You know, I see a lot of you guys on 1733 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 10: the front row, first two rows, and this has definitely 1734 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 10: been a dream of mine. I know one thing that 1735 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,559 Speaker 10: Thunder talked about was I had always been a coach 1736 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,599 Speaker 10: in his mind. I would say, I'm a huge believer 1737 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 10: in just developing people, whether it's on the football field, 1738 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 10: whether it's off the football field, in the media world, 1739 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 10: in business. My calling is to be a teacher and 1740 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 10: to develop people and help them see pretty much what 1741 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 10: they don't want to see but they need to see. 1742 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 10: So my job has always been that. That is my calling. 1743 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 10: Becoming a Patriot, it's never really felt like a job. 1744 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 10: When I first got here in two thousand and eight, 1745 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,400 Speaker 10: I was the first round draft pick two thousand and seven. 1746 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,519 Speaker 8: You know, you know the season two thousand and seven. 1747 01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 8: Don't worry about that one. 1748 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 10: But I come into an organization where the culture was 1749 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 10: established the people, not only the players, but the people 1750 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 10: that worked around the building. And I was like, man, 1751 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 10: maybe I'm the missing piece, right, So maybe I'm the 1752 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 10: missing piece. So I was drafted in two thousand and eight, 1753 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 10: and then the first game of the season, first game 1754 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 10: of the season, Tom Brady gets hurt. 1755 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 8: He's out for the year. 1756 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 10: Most people wrote us off that season, but that's when 1757 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 10: I really had an opportunity to see the culture at work. 1758 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:30,760 Speaker 8: Many people they. 1759 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,440 Speaker 10: Look at culture as a retrospective way of either validating 1760 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,000 Speaker 10: success or you know, validating a losing season. I would 1761 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 10: say here, the culture starts at the top, mister Kraft 1762 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 10: in the family starts at the top, but it also 1763 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,679 Speaker 10: has to permeate throughout the organization. And I've always tried 1764 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 10: to carry that flag for the Craft family. As He's 1765 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 10: told you. Look, these guys went at a lot. They 1766 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 10: went at a lot, and I love in here. I 1767 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 10: took a break. I went to Optum. I needed a 1768 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 10: break from Bill. I went to opt them for about 1769 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 10: four years and I came back and one thing I 1770 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 10: came back with I learned a lot at optim Larry Renfro, 1771 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 10: Mike Matteo, those guys. 1772 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 8: I learned a lot at. 1773 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 10: Optum about diversity, right, about diversity and inclusion. And you 1774 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 10: better believe it. Being the first black coach here in 1775 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 10: New England means a lot to me. But those guys 1776 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 10: taught me you have to take ideas from other people. Black, white, green, 1777 01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 10: yellow really doesn't matter, old young. One thing you'll notice 1778 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 10: about me in our interaction as we continue to go 1779 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 10: is I don't like echo chambers. I want people around 1780 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,719 Speaker 10: me that are going to question my ideas or question 1781 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 10: the way we have done things in the past, because realistically, 1782 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 10: this game is a lot different. 1783 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 8: Than when I was drafted in two thousand and eight. 1784 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,679 Speaker 10: At the same time, that's why I try to spend 1785 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 10: so much time in developing young men and young women 1786 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 10: so they know I don't want to teach them, you 1787 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 10: know what, what to think. I want to teach them 1788 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 10: how to think. And once we get to that point, 1789 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,840 Speaker 10: I think we can get back to where we need 1790 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 10: to be at the top. And I'm an open book. 1791 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 10: I'm honored, I'm ready to go, and I'm excited to 1792 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 10: be the next head coach of the Patriots. 1793 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 8: Let's start with UH. 1794 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 9: With Mike Breese here in the front row, this question 1795 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 9: is for Robert. 1796 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 4: There's gonna come a time when you have to turn 1797 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 4: into draft card and make a pick official or make 1798 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 4: a signing official. Who will have the final say on 1799 01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 4: those decisions. 1800 01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:56,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, well this is his day. We wanna celebrate Jerrod 1801 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:58,759 Speaker 7: taking this position. 1802 01:20:59,760 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 1803 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,640 Speaker 7: What we know, we have a lot of people internally 1804 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,320 Speaker 7: who have had a chance to train and learn under 1805 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,920 Speaker 7: the greatest coach of all time and a man whose 1806 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 7: football intellect is very special. So in the short term. 1807 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 7: We're looking for collaboration as our team has a tremendous 1808 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 7: opportunity to position itself right given our salary cap space. 1809 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 7: And you know, we've never drafted in my thirty years 1810 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 7: of ownership, We've never been drafting as low as we're drafting, 1811 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 7: So we're counting on our internal people whom we're still 1812 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 7: learning and evaluating. So we're going to let that evolve 1813 01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 7: and develop, and before the key decisions have to be made, 1814 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 7: we will appoint someone and at the same time we'll 1815 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 7: probably start doing interviews and looking at people from the outside. 1816 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,679 Speaker 7: But my bias has always been in all our family 1817 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:21,719 Speaker 7: companies to try to develop a culture from within where 1818 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 7: we understand one another. I'll just give you a little factoid. 1819 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:36,879 Speaker 7: In the thirty years that we've owned the team today, 1820 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 7: so it's really thirty one, this is the third coach 1821 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 7: that our family has hired. 1822 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 8: In that period. 1823 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 7: There have been two hundred and forty four coaches hired 1824 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 7: in the NFL, which means an average of roughly eight 1825 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 7: coaches per team, which means there's a turnover every three 1826 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 7: and a half years. And the teams we like to 1827 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:10,799 Speaker 7: get continuity in our company get the most competent people 1828 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,920 Speaker 7: and then try to build stability. And so before we 1829 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 7: just rush and hire people, we wanna understand what we 1830 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 7: have internally. It's a long answer, but an important question in. 1831 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 4: These questions for dried Congratulations thinks it's been reported in 1832 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 4: recent days you set up interviews for a defensive coordinator 1833 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,799 Speaker 4: position and special teams coordinator position. 1834 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 8: I'm curious if you'll open a search for an. 1835 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,519 Speaker 4: Offensive coordinator and if so, what traits and experience will 1836 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 4: you prioritize. 1837 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 10: That's a great question. I would say, just like Thunder 1838 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 10: alluded to, everything's still under consideration. Obviously, the staff that 1839 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 10: I've been working with isn't the staff that I have chosen, 1840 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 10: but everything's under evaluation. One thing I would say with 1841 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 10: all of my coaches is the number one thing is 1842 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 10: developing people. And with this generation, I mean back when 1843 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 10: I first started playing, most of the time guys, you know, 1844 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,519 Speaker 10: coach would say something and guys would do it. I 1845 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,720 Speaker 10: think with this generation it's about you have to show 1846 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 10: them that you care about them before you get into 1847 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 10: you know, competency as far as x's and no's are concerned. 1848 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,679 Speaker 10: And that's one thing I feel like with all my coaches, 1849 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 10: they should know the players. They should know their room 1850 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 10: better than I do. They're closer, they're closer to those 1851 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 10: guys and they have that day to day interaction. But 1852 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,560 Speaker 10: to me, whether we're talking offensive coordinator, defensive corder, a 1853 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 10: special teams coordinator, all that stuff is under eval and 1854 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 10: my number one thing is I want to bring in developers. 1855 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:53,560 Speaker 20: Hi, Gerada, congratulations on the job. Just a thought on 1856 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 20: kind of following that up. Do you plan to officially 1857 01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 20: name an offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator special teams? What's your 1858 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 20: vision of what you want from this team, both offensively 1859 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 20: and what we've seen from you defensively? 1860 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 9: And will the Belichicks remain on the staff. 1861 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 10: That's like four questions and one only. That's about four 1862 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 10: questions in one. 1863 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:14,639 Speaker 16: Uh. 1864 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 8: The first one was what what's the first question? 1865 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 7: Again? 1866 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 8: Break it down, coordinators. I think it's important. 1867 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 10: I think titles are important, and I know no knock 1868 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 10: to Coach Belichick, who has been a huge mentor to 1869 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,799 Speaker 10: me over the years as a player and as a colleague. 1870 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,639 Speaker 10: What I would say is, I believe titles are important 1871 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,800 Speaker 10: outward looking, but as far as in the building, I 1872 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 10: don't care what your title is. It's what's your job? 1873 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,600 Speaker 10: What value do you bring to the organization? And I 1874 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 10: think that's the most important thing. And sometimes I think 1875 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,880 Speaker 10: in business and sports people get caught up in titles. 1876 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,599 Speaker 10: But I also understand the other side. If you want 1877 01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 10: to get if you want to continue to get promoted. 1878 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,320 Speaker 8: People have to know exactly what you do. 1879 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 10: But like I said earlier, inside, it's all about collaboration. 1880 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,679 Speaker 10: That's what Thunder talked about, and that's what I'm about 1881 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 10: as well. 1882 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 17: Hey, Rod, what's the difficulty of replacing the greatest coach 1883 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,320 Speaker 17: of all time and filling those shoes and you know, 1884 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 17: honoring and keeping the DNA that he infused and altering 1885 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 17: it in the ways that you see fit. 1886 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1887 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,759 Speaker 10: You know, this organization has had a lot of success 1888 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,760 Speaker 10: over the years for a long time, and there have 1889 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 10: been many teams that, you know, they have one good 1890 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 10: year and then they're out for three years. One thing 1891 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 10: I learned from coaches and from Thunder is about just 1892 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,040 Speaker 10: surrounding yourself with good people, right, surrounding yourself with good people. Now, 1893 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 10: as far as our staff and things like that, we're 1894 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 10: gonna be good. We're gonna be a lot better now. 1895 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,760 Speaker 10: Bill always says this managing expectations for me. I'm not 1896 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 10: trying to be built. I'm not trying to be built. 1897 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 10: I think that that Bill is his own man. If 1898 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 10: you can't tell by now, I'm a little bit different 1899 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 10: even up here. 1900 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:05,640 Speaker 19: Uh. 1901 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 10: But what I will say is, you know, the more 1902 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 10: I think about, the more I think about, like the 1903 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 10: lessons that I've taken from Bill. Hard work works, right, 1904 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,840 Speaker 10: hard work works, and and that's what we're all about. 1905 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 8: Hey, Giah, good to see you here. 1906 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:34,799 Speaker 3: And now great moments in history. 1907 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 4: I just feel like you got to break them into 1908 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 4: a little ball busting when they're kids, right, Like you 1909 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 4: got to understand that, like you're gonna joke and I'm 1910 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 4: not like trying to hurt your feelings. 1911 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 1: You know, it's like we're kind of I would kind 1912 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,600 Speaker 1: of tell your coach, I've got my eye on you. 1913 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 3: I'm watching it. 1914 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 1: It's like I'm looking. And then I would say, yeah, 1915 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 1: your coach asked me to come and you know, give 1916 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: a cradling clinic to the guys. 1917 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,840 Speaker 4: You know, that's funny. 1918 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:06,320 Speaker 3: Cradling clinic. Friend Connor was probably in the fact, really in. 1919 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,520 Speaker 1: The old house, I used to use the shower downstairs 1920 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,679 Speaker 1: and that's where like he would watch TV with his friends. 1921 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 1: So I come out with a towel, like, you know, 1922 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,360 Speaker 1: oh god, his friends would I go, uh hey, Sean, 1923 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 1: did you get those tickets to the gunshot? 1924 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 9: And you know, my son's just shaking his head because 1925 01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 9: he knows it's coming. 1926 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,880 Speaker 1: And the other kid just, you know, walk on. 1927 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 4: It's a masterclass, a master class of dadding. Right, I 1928 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 4: just walk out. 1929 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 3: I gotta start, I gotta start a little bit. 1930 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 1: That's another great moment from all right back here in 1931 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Patriots on Film today. Five five past five hundred is 1932 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,599 Speaker 1: the ace ticket houtline web radio at Patriots dot com. 1933 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Is the email addressed Paul? What is this? Brendan and 1934 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 1: Edmonton writes in I just ran on Twitter. He says 1935 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: that Paul is the highest graded on air personality in 1936 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: the Northeast. Congratulations Paul. That's hopefully this enacts your bonus. 1937 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 3: And your contract that was from Boston Cream. Yeah, this 1938 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 3: is my buddy, this job. I believe they were making 1939 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 3: fun of me. 1940 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 1: Oh okay, unfortunately, because you know they have these polls 1941 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 1: every once in a while. 1942 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,719 Speaker 3: Also said I was in my thirty eighth season. 1943 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: Okay. 1944 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 9: The Channel Market survey or whatever that's called. Dall, we're 1945 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 9: always on that. 1946 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,599 Speaker 3: It's nice we are you know that right? Yeah, okay, I'm. 1947 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Saying necessarily yeah, but I didn't know if that was 1948 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:30,559 Speaker 1: and it's something I didn't know about. 1949 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 4: Well, it should be true. 1950 01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 3: Is that really coming? Did that really come out today? 1951 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 7: No? 1952 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So in all seriousness, it's impressive that we're on 1953 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 3: that because we're not in a category. We're like a 1954 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,920 Speaker 3: write in unless they've changed it. So the last time 1955 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,839 Speaker 3: that I had the raw data, it was like favorite 1956 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,559 Speaker 3: sports related podcast or something like that, and it doesn't 1957 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,760 Speaker 3: give you like like quick Slants was one of the 1958 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 3: things for you know, Tom Curran's thing. Ours wasn't one 1959 01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:01,080 Speaker 3: of the options, and we got like the third most percentage. 1960 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that this past round might have been 1961 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,839 Speaker 14: they might have whittled it down now to like favorite 1962 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:13,000 Speaker 14: Patriots podcast, Favorite Celtics podcast. But we're definitely unfiltered, definitely 1963 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,240 Speaker 14: on there whether whatever category to get Catch twenty. 1964 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,760 Speaker 1: Two and listen to all our listeners. If you are 1965 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: ever get one of these, please write us in, please 1966 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 1: for box whatever. It's all good. We appreciate that Ash 1967 01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,640 Speaker 1: and London a bit of a change of topic from 1968 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,759 Speaker 1: Bill and Mayo. But I noticed in Mike Reese's Sunday 1969 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 1: roundup he pointed out two of this year's London teams 1970 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 1: are on the Patriots schedule. Do you think he was 1971 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,519 Speaker 1: just connecting dots or was it informed speculation? Cough twice 1972 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,040 Speaker 1: if you can't say, but are coming like well if 1973 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 1: like cough it's not because of that. No, we don't know. 1974 01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:54,360 Speaker 1: But usually even before the schedule release, the International Games 1975 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,479 Speaker 1: are sometimes announced, so maybe we'll find out. 1976 01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,640 Speaker 3: And Mike was just pointing out. We actually said that 1977 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 3: last week on this show that two of the teams 1978 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 3: that were deemed as hosts for the International Games are 1979 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,839 Speaker 3: opponents for the Patriots. Yeah, road opponents, I wrote, opponents. 1980 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,479 Speaker 1: I'd be open to going to London again. 1981 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean will we will we do it up? 1982 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,680 Speaker 4: Or would that just be kind of like the team and. 1983 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,280 Speaker 1: They know it would be the it's not our home 1984 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:20,600 Speaker 1: market team. Yeah, wouldn't be. 1985 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,800 Speaker 4: We will we send Patriots on filtered there because the 1986 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:24,839 Speaker 4: fans probably are clamoring for maybe. 1987 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 3: Maybe you could go to. 1988 01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,479 Speaker 4: We definitely have to break back to journey. 1989 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:31,720 Speaker 3: I'd be in year thirty. 1990 01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Nine your show and listen all the time. 1991 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:35,600 Speaker 4: You guys are hilarious. I want more of that in 1992 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 4: my life. 1993 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:42,599 Speaker 3: Uh like suddenly turned into like a late seventies like Rocker. 1994 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Harry in Connecticut. What's up, Harry? Hey, guys, 1995 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:51,720 Speaker 1: I just. 1996 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 21: Wanted your take on where where is the bar? 1997 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 15: For you? 1998 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,800 Speaker 21: Guys are talking about a last episode? Just you want 1999 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 21: it the progression, whether that's you know, a couple more wins. 2000 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 21: You know, I don't know where that that bar is. 2001 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 21: I think Robert Kraft on his Don Mao's introduction was, 2002 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 21: you know, saying he was very confident that this is 2003 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,680 Speaker 21: the guy that he wants. But is he going to 2004 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,439 Speaker 21: be very confident if we have a couple more losing seasons? 2005 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:21,200 Speaker 21: Like how long did you give them? 2006 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 1: By question? Yeah, it's a good question. 2007 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,679 Speaker 4: Now, I mean at least at least what three years? 2008 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I would say that's the minimum, but it's 2009 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 4: it's it's just finding Harry. I think two Yeah, I 2010 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:33,639 Speaker 4: mean that's fair. 2011 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:35,880 Speaker 3: It would have to be, but it would have to 2012 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,200 Speaker 3: be really what does it look like? 2013 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:38,040 Speaker 1: What's happened? 2014 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2015 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 1: You know that would have to look really bad. 2016 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's just that feeling of coming out of 2017 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 4: a season. I mean, we've talked about a bunch of 2018 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,680 Speaker 4: times with what the ninety four season, where you know, 2019 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,200 Speaker 4: it's like started to come together a little bit, you know, 2020 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,600 Speaker 4: you felt like you had something. I think that's just 2021 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 4: the feeling you want to come out of the season with, 2022 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:54,720 Speaker 4: whether you know, of course you want to be in 2023 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 4: the playoffs. And you know, I just I'm I'm so 2024 01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 4: impressed with green Bay. Like, I just love how they've 2025 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 4: built things post FARV and you know how they took 2026 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,720 Speaker 4: care of Ara Shaan Gary and you know, they're I 2027 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,639 Speaker 4: just think they're doing it the right way. They drafted 2028 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of wide receivers and they got Jordan Love 2029 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,320 Speaker 4: some time to develop and they you know, stuck with 2030 01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 4: him and you know. 2031 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:18,519 Speaker 9: He's a green Bay Packers. 2032 01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,639 Speaker 3: That's the only way to make a quarterback succession plan 2033 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,519 Speaker 3: is to draft one four years. 2034 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 1: Before your and you happen to have a Hall of 2035 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 1: Famer in place. 2036 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, but I know, but that's not even for me. 2037 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:32,679 Speaker 3: It's Patriot situation. 2038 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 4: I know, I know, but it's just you know, it's 2039 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,360 Speaker 4: the two tight ends last year, it's the two receivers, 2040 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 4: it's Christian Watson's here, and you know and it's like, look, wow, 2041 01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:41,080 Speaker 4: what happens in. 2042 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 14: Todays are the Patriots could have easily been the green 2043 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,760 Speaker 14: Bay Packers in a different universe, Like they could have 2044 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,800 Speaker 14: had all the players that that green Bay currently is 2045 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,720 Speaker 14: in the playoffs with. Could all I mean not all, 2046 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 14: but you know what, you know, all their young core, 2047 01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 14: Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs. 2048 01:33:58,720 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 4: They were all available. 2049 01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 9: Comes down to they have the receiver Jane. 2050 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, how did you pronounce his first name? 2051 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 4: J Jayden read Red? 2052 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 9: Yeah? 2053 01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:10,560 Speaker 4: Would you have would you come up with? 2054 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 9: Jordan Love? 2055 01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 14: Was John Jarren Jordan twenty I think twenty twenty draft. 2056 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,840 Speaker 14: So they ended up they took Kyle Dugger, they ended 2057 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 14: up trading out, and I think Jordan Love went like 2058 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:23,080 Speaker 14: twenty sixth I. 2059 01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 3: Think you're right. It's just like it's the simple equation. 2060 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,720 Speaker 3: When you draft well, you can do things like I 2061 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,439 Speaker 3: don't think if the Patriots, if Jordan Love was the 2062 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,080 Speaker 3: quarterback of the Patriots last year, I think they might 2063 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,000 Speaker 3: have gone four and thirteen. I'm like, maybe they would 2064 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 3: have won a couple more games. But he they he's 2065 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 3: developed well, and I do think that something to be said. 2066 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:47,800 Speaker 3: I don't think you have to sit as long as 2067 01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 3: Rogers in love set like you can sit a year, 2068 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:55,519 Speaker 3: you don't have to hit three. Yeah, but they also 2069 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 3: have done with Mike said, those young guys around him 2070 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,480 Speaker 3: Mos have been pretty and Aaron Aaron Jones is a pretty. 2071 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 9: Good back, like they have. 2072 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,040 Speaker 3: They have some good talent. Now the defense is a 2073 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,679 Speaker 3: train wreck that I don't know what Dallas did last 2074 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,720 Speaker 3: week because that that guy Joe Barry has been like 2075 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you follow anybody like outside, like 2076 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,679 Speaker 3: that guy that you guys were with, Aaron Nagler. Nagler, 2077 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 3: Oh my god, does he destroyed Joe Barry every single week? 2078 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,920 Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like Joe Barry is one week he's fired, 2079 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,800 Speaker 14: the next week he's he's back. But like it's very 2080 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 14: sea sawing with him. He runs that that fangio too 2081 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 14: high safety type of defense. 2082 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,599 Speaker 1: But I told you what happened. Paul del Rio, Green 2083 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,880 Speaker 1: Bay got a call from a certain freelance head coach 2084 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 1: about how to attack Denver Dallas's offense. 2085 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,479 Speaker 4: It didn't work, and it didn't work. He didn't get 2086 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 4: him out. 2087 01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 1: No, but now I have the second part of that. 2088 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:56,200 Speaker 1: Dallas found out about that. 2089 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,800 Speaker 4: Oh, and they're like, we're not jokes on you. We're 2090 01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,720 Speaker 4: not even gonna fire him to mind us. 2091 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:02,960 Speaker 3: So can I ask a serious question and there's no 2092 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,360 Speaker 3: answer to it, Just wondering what you guys all think. 2093 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 3: Do you think Jerry Jones reached out at all to 2094 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,040 Speaker 3: Bill or do you think there was any communication between 2095 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,400 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones and Bill at all? 2096 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:14,600 Speaker 9: I think maybe a little bit. 2097 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 1: But if that happened, don't you think it'd be out there? 2098 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,080 Speaker 1: It would get out somehow with Bill? 2099 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,040 Speaker 9: I mean, it just depends on what they like. 2100 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 14: A text is a text, right, like with a conversation, 2101 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 14: and there's different lines. 2102 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Bill still has an agent, right, I. 2103 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 14: Think he has somebody that helps him with the number 2104 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,600 Speaker 14: the actual I don't think he has an agent. It 2105 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 14: was Neil Cornridge, but I don't think that they I 2106 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,160 Speaker 14: don't think he's formally You know what agents do is. 2107 01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,200 Speaker 1: They want people to think my client is in demand, 2108 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,280 Speaker 1: so they get this stuff out there so other teams know. 2109 01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 14: I am sure there is somebody, whether it's Neil Cornridge 2110 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 14: still or somebody else that's doing Bill's bidding. 2111 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not, Maybe they didn't reach out. 2112 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't I don't have the answer. 2113 01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,720 Speaker 3: I just thought it was interesting, Like, yeah, do you 2114 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,600 Speaker 3: think that maybe Jerry Jones, like, because you can make 2115 01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 3: an argument on a lot of different sides to make 2116 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,400 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones said, Okay, you know we're gonna stick with 2117 01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 3: McCarthy because I reached out to Bill. He wasn't really interested, right, 2118 01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:14,040 Speaker 3: you know? Or like Jerry Jones has a reputation for 2119 01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,680 Speaker 3: being pretty patient with his coaches. He does like he 2120 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 3: doesn't you know, Jason, Jerry stuck around for a long 2121 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,200 Speaker 3: time when people thought every year he was going to 2122 01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:22,719 Speaker 3: get fired. 2123 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:27,320 Speaker 1: See Ioways shot that up to Jerry doesn't really want 2124 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:29,960 Speaker 1: another Jimmy Johnson. 2125 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,840 Speaker 3: He doesn't want a strong He wants a puppy. 2126 01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,639 Speaker 1: He really wants to be in charge and he doesn't 2127 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,679 Speaker 1: want to And as long as my coach is doing 2128 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 1: what I tell him to do, leave him there. 2129 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,679 Speaker 4: You didn't hear big Jim did a bit on this yesterday. 2130 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:42,960 Speaker 4: He did the fake call. Did you hear it? You 2131 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,679 Speaker 4: know I'm talking about you heard it? Just too good, 2132 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:46,799 Speaker 4: so funny. 2133 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 3: And then when he breaks in, when he breaks character 2134 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:50,960 Speaker 3: and he goes back to his own voice like in 2135 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 3: the middle of it. Number one I'll give you my 2136 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 3: number one. 2137 01:37:58,160 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 4: I give my number one. 2138 01:37:58,920 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 1: Whore what it's going to take. 2139 01:37:59,720 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 4: Bill, Like. 2140 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,759 Speaker 1: Colin Denver writes in I'm extremely disappointed with Robert's decision. 2141 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,519 Speaker 1: I wanted a fresh start. But if Robert had interviewed 2142 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,960 Speaker 1: several candidates and considered all the options before concluding that 2143 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,519 Speaker 1: the best head coach candidate was Mail, then I would 2144 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,439 Speaker 1: have accepted that crafted his due diligence and made a 2145 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,439 Speaker 1: well informed decision. But this, I mean, come on, he 2146 01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:22,280 Speaker 1: didn't even try to pretend that he was looking for 2147 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,160 Speaker 1: the best candidate. He just picked the guy who was 2148 01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,560 Speaker 1: in front of him. I sure hope Mayo makes this 2149 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 1: email look stupid over the next few years, but I 2150 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 1: don't have any reasons to believe that he will. I'm 2151 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,880 Speaker 1: telling you, Cole, if you didn't hear the beginning of 2152 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:41,200 Speaker 1: the show, my advice to you is, in Robert Kraft's 2153 01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 1: eighty two years of existence, his instincts have served him well. 2154 01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 1: And he said yesterday that he basing this decision on 2155 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 1: his instincts. And I'm taking some solace in that. I'm, 2156 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, hoping that that works out like it has 2157 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:57,360 Speaker 1: in the past. 2158 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,840 Speaker 3: Fred is reminding me of like Jess Up and in 2159 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,080 Speaker 3: a few good men, it's like, you know, please tell 2160 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 3: me you've given them something other than my favorite color. 2161 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:11,439 Speaker 3: You know, two marines lives are at stake here yet, right, 2162 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,479 Speaker 3: you know, and like friends like well, Robertson's thinks have 2163 01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:15,719 Speaker 3: never failed over the past. 2164 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,560 Speaker 14: I just I would say that I've talked to a 2165 01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,160 Speaker 14: lot of people at this point about Girard and like 2166 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 14: everybody that knows Gerard or knew Gerard when he was 2167 01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:29,439 Speaker 14: a player, like nobody's surprised that he that he were here, 2168 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:30,880 Speaker 14: Like nobody's surprised by it. 2169 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and that's a good point. You know, 2170 01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:38,559 Speaker 1: Cole for example, and there are others are not happy 2171 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,559 Speaker 1: with Robert didn't talk to a lot of other candidates. 2172 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 1: But that's not to say that Robert didn't talk to 2173 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people about Gerard, and in that he 2174 01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 1: it became an informed decision, like I have a good 2175 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 1: feeling about this guy, but I'm gonna make sure. And 2176 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,280 Speaker 1: maybe he talked to dozens of people about Gerard. 2177 01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,680 Speaker 14: May I mean there's people that said to me that 2178 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,920 Speaker 14: he was born to be the Patriots head coach, Like literally, 2179 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,720 Speaker 14: those are the words out of their mouths, like, I 2180 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,040 Speaker 14: don't know if he's going to be a good coach 2181 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,400 Speaker 14: or not, but the fact is is. 2182 01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,760 Speaker 9: That he he has like some sort of gravitas, and I. 2183 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,600 Speaker 3: Can I agree with it. I think he's you know, 2184 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 3: when he was talking yesterday, he commanded the room. I 2185 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,360 Speaker 3: think there's something to that. We've been told that about 2186 01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,360 Speaker 3: the shared defensive coordinator thing, that he delivers the message 2187 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 3: because he's better at it than Steve, you know, so 2188 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,600 Speaker 3: you could see some of that yesterday. I don't have 2189 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,360 Speaker 3: any issue with the selection only My only question was 2190 01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,639 Speaker 3: just I just I didn't necessarily need to have people 2191 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,599 Speaker 3: he talked to about Gerard. I wanted him to talk 2192 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,760 Speaker 3: to other people about other ways of doing things. I 2193 01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,439 Speaker 3: get it, that's all. I'm just if you wanted to 2194 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,760 Speaker 3: pickture Odd. I love the guy. I mean, I think 2195 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,120 Speaker 3: he's a strong presence. I'm like you said at the 2196 01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,599 Speaker 3: very top of the show, Mike, it's like refreshed. 2197 01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,599 Speaker 1: But Jarrod basically said, we're going to do things differently. 2198 01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,760 Speaker 14: We just need to see the people that put I 2199 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 14: have no problem whatsoever with Gerrod Mayo. I think he's 2200 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,080 Speaker 14: a really good coach, a really good person. I think 2201 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,879 Speaker 14: he is a head coach. I think he's head coach material. 2202 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,960 Speaker 14: But who's who's making personnel decisions? Who's the offensive coordinator? 2203 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 14: Like I don't necessarily worry as much about the defense 2204 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,720 Speaker 14: because that's his expertise, But they're if they're going to 2205 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,280 Speaker 14: draft a quarterback third overall, who the offensive coordinator is 2206 01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 14: is humongous, Like that is such a huge deal. 2207 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:29,479 Speaker 3: I did it again. Who's the you know, the decision makers? 2208 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,320 Speaker 3: To your point, how are they determining which one of 2209 01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 3: these three? You know, Like when you guys were finishing 2210 01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 3: up catch twenty two, you know, Alex was saying, you know, 2211 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,559 Speaker 3: it's one of the three, and you know, I don't 2212 01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,800 Speaker 3: want that. Yeah, I don't want them to say, oh, 2213 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 3: I'd be happy with any of the three. I want 2214 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 3: them to identify the one that they like the best. Yeah, 2215 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,800 Speaker 3: and then if they if they can get them. Now, 2216 01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 3: maybe you can't, maybe maybe you don't think the trade 2217 01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,360 Speaker 3: is worth it, right if you can't guarantee that that 2218 01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,720 Speaker 3: that one is going to be available. But I don't 2219 01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 3: like the idea of I'd be happy with any of 2220 01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 3: those three. Because now we're into the Felger part of it, 2221 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,519 Speaker 3: where yeah, there'll be four or five guys taken and 2222 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:10,960 Speaker 3: one or two and the will be able to play, 2223 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 3: you know. And I think that if you look at 2224 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:23,200 Speaker 3: the history, the third quarterback taken isn't generally great, right yeah, true, 2225 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,640 Speaker 3: h QB three. As as the kids like this, just yea, 2226 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 3: we got two picks. 2227 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh my god? All right, just one one 2228 01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:37,559 Speaker 1: quick thing, just a little business related things. In the past, 2229 01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:39,639 Speaker 1: we had a show where somebody called up and gave 2230 01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:42,880 Speaker 1: us some Ben Johnson anecdotes about it. 2231 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,960 Speaker 3: Turns out it was really a bad guy. 2232 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,040 Speaker 1: No, according to this guy Josh and Edmonton. That's a 2233 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,759 Speaker 1: whole Reddit thing. And they think it's people from Detroit, 2234 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,120 Speaker 1: Detroit who didn't want to lose him putting that out there. 2235 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,400 Speaker 1: I so we might have gotten played a little. 2236 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 9: This guy Jared playing like we didn't. 2237 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we made fun of it. We made fun 2238 01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:05,920 Speaker 1: of the guy I did anyway, I know, But we 2239 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:07,840 Speaker 1: gave him a platform. 2240 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 9: Jared Jared Goss playing like an m v P. And 2241 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:10,800 Speaker 9: that's Jared Goff. 2242 01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 1: So I gotta be a better story. 2243 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,680 Speaker 3: Goff can't play. You have to listen to my shows more. 2244 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,640 Speaker 9: He can't. He's well, they think everybody besides. 2245 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 3: Like correct home and he doesn't count because he was tenth. 2246 01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:24,639 Speaker 4: This gotta be a better story to make up about 2247 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,760 Speaker 4: why Ben Johnson's a bad guy than he stood up 2248 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:28,680 Speaker 4: in front of like his kids play and was like 2249 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 4: watch my kid. Like that's just that. 2250 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,960 Speaker 9: Should have been the first do you remember? 2251 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,240 Speaker 3: What do you remember at the time? And listen, I 2252 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,599 Speaker 3: get duped by these things all the time. Andy Hart 2253 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,439 Speaker 3: called into the show. I didn't know it was Andy 2254 01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,519 Speaker 3: Hart Rogers, so I get I get duped on this crap. 2255 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:42,880 Speaker 4: All the time. 2256 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 3: I didn't buy that one for a second. 2257 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's like when what's her name didn't know that 2258 01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,400 Speaker 14: it was her It was Donnie Wahlberg and the Mass singer. 2259 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it should have been like he stole my wife 2260 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:52,680 Speaker 4: from me, you know, like something like. 2261 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,600 Speaker 3: I saw Donny on the Singer and Jenny didn't know 2262 01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:57,000 Speaker 3: it was him. 2263 01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's funny, Yeah, it is funny. 2264 01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:03,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, all right, maybe that was a bit, you know, maybe. 2265 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,400 Speaker 3: I always love when they do the reveal it's like, oh, 2266 01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,160 Speaker 3: it's Evan Lazare from Catch twenty two and of course 2267 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,200 Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered, like they have to tell you everything about 2268 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:18,400 Speaker 3: the time Grammy Winner seven. 2269 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:18,800 Speaker 9: Time, Oscar. 2270 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't watch mask Singer, so I have no interest. 2271 01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 1: All right, So we had we had a ton of emails, 2272 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,080 Speaker 1: a ton of calls. We can't get to them all. 2273 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 1: I apologize, but we'll be back next week. But it 2274 01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,760 Speaker 1: is pickstime and Alex isn't here. 2275 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:37,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what she is. 2276 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 1: I know, I wonder why. I wonder why Alex is. 2277 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,760 Speaker 3: There's a reason, there is a reason, and as we suspected, 2278 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,760 Speaker 3: I will get to the the results from last week, 2279 01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 3: and you can put two and two together as to 2280 01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:53,040 Speaker 3: where Alex is. Fred. It's time to separate the men 2281 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 3: from the boys. Playoff time Fred five and one, Fred, 2282 01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,880 Speaker 3: followed by Paul at four and two, always second place, 2283 01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,360 Speaker 3: Mike and Evan three and three, and well the. 2284 01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,360 Speaker 4: Queen Alex two and four. 2285 01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:11,799 Speaker 1: Well, you know, now is the time that it really counts. 2286 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,600 Speaker 9: This is her turn, you know, this is her denarious moment, like. 2287 01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:14,960 Speaker 8: She just. 2288 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:22,160 Speaker 3: With the spread. Paul four and two and everybody else 2289 01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 3: was three and three. Okay, all right, perfectly, So I 2290 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,280 Speaker 3: did I did touch I did touch base with Alex, 2291 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,880 Speaker 3: and I have her picks. I will put them in between, 2292 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:36,440 Speaker 3: Like why is she she's working on a RKK thirty anniversary. 2293 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,200 Speaker 1: She couldn't take fifteen minutes to do this. 2294 01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you for. I don't 2295 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,519 Speaker 3: know what I do. I don't know what kind of 2296 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,000 Speaker 3: department you guys are up there? 2297 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,920 Speaker 1: All right, rugs. The first game is Sounds like You 2298 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:52,759 Speaker 1: Do Saturday at four thirty. This is on ESPN, ABC, 2299 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,200 Speaker 1: ESPN plus ESPN Deportes. 2300 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:56,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 2301 01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,120 Speaker 1: It is the ten and seven Texans at the thirteen 2302 01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:00,120 Speaker 1: and four Rave. 2303 01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:04,400 Speaker 3: Baltimore war by nine and a half. Oh wow, oh jeez, 2304 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:05,679 Speaker 3: oh jeez. 2305 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,920 Speaker 1: That's a big playoff number. 2306 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Baltimore to win, but I'm gonna 2307 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,320 Speaker 4: take nine and a half points to Cleveland. They're they're 2308 01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:13,360 Speaker 4: they're feisty. 2309 01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:14,200 Speaker 9: Clevelan's at home. 2310 01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,519 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Houston, Houston, thank you. I'll still take that. 2311 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 3: I was gonna write down Cleveland another would give a loss. 2312 01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm no, it's also Baltimore, but she'll take the points. 2313 01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,400 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I think that 2314 01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 14: the Ravens might come out a little bit what's the 2315 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 14: word like nervous, No, like more like nervous because they 2316 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,720 Speaker 14: have a lot of at steak. You know, Lamar has 2317 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,479 Speaker 14: never really wanted the playoffs, and they have a lot 2318 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,000 Speaker 14: of steak, so I think that they might come out 2319 01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:43,120 Speaker 14: a little a little nervous. 2320 01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,640 Speaker 3: Evan's gonna probably explain to me why I'm wrong on this, 2321 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 3: probably because I have nothing, nothing empirical to add on this. 2322 01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,479 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Baltimore and I'm gonna take the points. Also, 2323 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,679 Speaker 3: I know the Ravens defense statistically is off the charts? 2324 01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:00,120 Speaker 3: Am I wrong to think? I don't really understand how Like, 2325 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,840 Speaker 3: I don't think it's quote unquote it's good. I'm not 2326 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 3: telling you it's not good. I watched them play against him. 2327 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 3: I watched them play against San Francisco when I thought 2328 01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,800 Speaker 3: they played really well that night. But I've seen them 2329 01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,000 Speaker 3: play a few other times and I haven't really noticed. 2330 01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 9: Yea, and being there defensive coordinator is the balls? 2331 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:16,200 Speaker 3: Okay? 2332 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:17,639 Speaker 9: Yeah, that guy knows what he's doing. 2333 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,639 Speaker 3: So I will take the points though, because I think 2334 01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,320 Speaker 3: I think c J. Stroud, I think that group. I 2335 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,800 Speaker 3: don't know if the weather's supposed to be a factor. 2336 01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 9: But I like it's going to be a factor in Detroit. 2337 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:27,680 Speaker 4: I like that. 2338 01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,479 Speaker 3: I like that Bobby Slowic offense. So I'm going to 2339 01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:32,320 Speaker 3: take the points here. 2340 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,360 Speaker 1: Here's here's what you have. First of all, what's the 2341 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:35,599 Speaker 1: weather going to be like in Baltimore? 2342 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 3: I just asked that I have no idea. 2343 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:43,200 Speaker 1: When when the when the points centers give you such 2344 01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,360 Speaker 1: a big spread nine and a half in the playoffs, 2345 01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:50,280 Speaker 1: you have to Yeah, the sharps know something. The Sharps 2346 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,879 Speaker 1: know something. So this is where you know, you accept 2347 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,760 Speaker 1: the points. Paul, Well, you accept the spread and you 2348 01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:59,920 Speaker 1: take the Ravens both way. 2349 01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a long way to Grandmaselfs. 2350 01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ravens both ways in this game because the 2351 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,639 Speaker 1: Sharps know something. It you know it should it should? 2352 01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, raise the red flag when you see that 2353 01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,360 Speaker 1: biggest spread. That's because the Sharps know something. So you 2354 01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 1: go with the Ravens both ways. Eight fifteen Fox and 2355 01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,320 Speaker 1: by the way, Fox Deportist they have at the Portaste too, 2356 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,320 Speaker 1: nine and eight. Packers are at the twelve and five 2357 01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:27,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. 2358 01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:28,760 Speaker 3: San Francisco by nine and a. 2359 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,320 Speaker 4: Half, nine and a half. 2360 01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:34,280 Speaker 3: Again, Buffalo was fared by ten last week. 2361 01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, I I I'm gonna that made sense though, it 2362 01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:37,320 Speaker 9: was amazing. 2363 01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna listen to Fred's advice from that 2364 01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,840 Speaker 4: last from his last rent right there, I'll take San 2365 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:43,559 Speaker 4: Francisco and I'm actually gonna lay the points. 2366 01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:48,640 Speaker 14: I'm gonna take the Niners both ways. I think that 2367 01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:52,280 Speaker 14: you know, historically, the Niners have owned the Packers in 2368 01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 14: the playoffs, right, That's that's true, But that was what 2369 01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:55,040 Speaker 14: Ann Rodgers. 2370 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,439 Speaker 9: I still think it's the Niners. 2371 01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,720 Speaker 14: I just I'm not totally so old that Jordan Love 2372 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,599 Speaker 14: is about to like put the team on his back 2373 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:04,040 Speaker 14: and bring him on a run. 2374 01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,280 Speaker 3: So I don't think they're gonna run like that against 2375 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 3: the Niners. Alex also has the Niners both ways. I'm 2376 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:13,439 Speaker 3: going to join the boys and in Alex be like. 2377 01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,200 Speaker 14: That Niners Seahawks game last year, where like it's close 2378 01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 14: at half and then the blew him out in the 2379 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:19,000 Speaker 14: second half. 2380 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:24,080 Speaker 1: Here's where you have to you have to look at 2381 01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 1: the hot team in the playoffs, and right now, how 2382 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:30,799 Speaker 1: can you argue that it's not the Packers. 2383 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,680 Speaker 9: We've only played one week, all right, but. 2384 01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,720 Speaker 1: They beat they beat a highly the top seed right now, 2385 01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:40,320 Speaker 1: the second seed. We beat the second seed, so still 2386 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 1: very good. 2387 01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:42,639 Speaker 3: They're the only team that pulled an. 2388 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,559 Speaker 1: Upset, so forty nine ers win, but they don't. 2389 01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,000 Speaker 3: It's the only road team, right, only road team wins. 2390 01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:49,720 Speaker 3: There's the only road team to win. 2391 01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,080 Speaker 4: Listen, Sorry Sharps didn't know something on this. 2392 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,960 Speaker 1: One, right, This is where the forty nine ers are 2393 01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:00,360 Speaker 1: overvalued in the market. In the market, why get them 2394 01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:04,040 Speaker 1: waving all? They trying to bring in the Green Bay money. 2395 01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,559 Speaker 9: You real base are upset the Niners and I am 2396 01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 9: never going to end with But the Green. 2397 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,120 Speaker 1: Bay people aren't notorious betters, so they're trying to bring 2398 01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 1: in the Green Bay you know. 2399 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,120 Speaker 3: So you have to you have to know who's still 2400 01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:17,479 Speaker 3: going to do it. 2401 01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:19,720 Speaker 1: You have to know how the Sharps think and how 2402 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 1: the betting houses think. 2403 01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:22,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know how they think. 2404 01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 3: Are you going to make a pick or not? 2405 01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:25,519 Speaker 1: Good? 2406 01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:25,960 Speaker 4: He did? 2407 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:30,400 Speaker 1: I like when Paul gets yeah for the forty nine 2408 01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 1: ers win, but they don't cover Okay, all right, I'm 2409 01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,799 Speaker 1: just trying to give you know, our listeners some into. 2410 01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:38,240 Speaker 3: Sight zoned out in the middle of that wisdom with 2411 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:39,080 Speaker 3: the you know these people are. 2412 01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:43,719 Speaker 1: I apologize for talking over then I do not Sunday 2413 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 1: we move on to Sunday three o'clock. This is on 2414 01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:50,040 Speaker 1: NBC Peacock and Universo the Cock. 2415 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 3: This is on NBC on Sunday, Brand and Spice Channel. 2416 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,439 Speaker 3: That's rare Sunday afternoon on NBC. 2417 01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:02,160 Speaker 1: The old Interview. Yeah, nine and eight Buccaneers are at 2418 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 1: the twelve and five Lions. 2419 01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:08,280 Speaker 3: Destroys by six and a half. Supposed to be cold Detroit. 2420 01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:09,720 Speaker 4: They're gonna turn that. 2421 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:10,599 Speaker 9: They're prepping. 2422 01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,240 Speaker 4: I know, I know to what you are referring that was. 2423 01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 4: That was pretty funny. Every reporter's nightmare, right like, just man, 2424 01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,639 Speaker 4: it's just one of those weird games. I'm gonna take 2425 01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 4: Detroit and I'm gonna just what the point six and 2426 01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:30,240 Speaker 4: a half. Hey, I'm gonna do it now, you know 2427 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:31,760 Speaker 4: what I'm not. I'm gonna take Detroit, but i'm gonna 2428 01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,000 Speaker 4: take the points for Tampa. My apologize. 2429 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:42,320 Speaker 3: I have crossouts. Okay, Alex also has Detroit with Tampa 2430 01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:43,479 Speaker 3: to the points. 2431 01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 14: I'm gonna take Detroit both ways, and I've been you know, 2432 01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:48,880 Speaker 14: Dan Campbell is not my thing, Okay. I'm not a 2433 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,680 Speaker 14: kneecaps guy. I'm not a red face motivator type of 2434 01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:55,719 Speaker 14: coach type of guy. But I'll give him some props. 2435 01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 14: You know, he's he's winning me over a little bit. 2436 01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,400 Speaker 14: I think those he's got that. That team pretty buttoned up. 2437 01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,080 Speaker 14: So I'm going to take the Lions both ways. It's 2438 01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,360 Speaker 14: a nice draw for the Lions though, to get the Buccaneers. 2439 01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:06,519 Speaker 3: He yes, oh. 2440 01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:07,800 Speaker 1: Huge, it's great. 2441 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to take the Lions both ways too. 2442 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,559 Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of pressure on them 2443 01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,000 Speaker 3: last week. They were able to get the win. I 2444 01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:19,120 Speaker 3: think they play a little looser and then who knows 2445 01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 3: getting the conference championship game. 2446 01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:28,000 Speaker 1: Ye, here's where the books got it right. Lions both ways, Lions, Yep, 2447 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,240 Speaker 1: the run of Baker comes to an end. Although I'll 2448 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 1: be rooting for Baker to Actually, this is a tough 2449 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,559 Speaker 1: game for me. I want I like both teams right now. 2450 01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 9: The Lions might be the most fun team. 2451 01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my like. 2452 01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:42,840 Speaker 3: I enjoyed the Rams game, but it was frustrating because 2453 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,439 Speaker 3: I was rooting for both teams to score every time. 2454 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,880 Speaker 1: I love watching Baker bake, but I think the Lions 2455 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:51,639 Speaker 1: went Uh. Now we go to six thirty, six thirty 2456 01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:55,080 Speaker 1: Game of the Weday Night on CBS and Paramount Plus. 2457 01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 9: You gotta have Paramount, you got a plus, got to 2458 01:52:58,240 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 9: plus it up. 2459 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:00,479 Speaker 1: Eleven and six Chiefs. 2460 01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:02,640 Speaker 3: None of these games are on that stuff, right, No, 2461 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:03,760 Speaker 3: I don't regular. 2462 01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think any of them are. 2463 01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that stuff. 2464 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,960 Speaker 1: Eleven and six Chiefs. No historic games, Paul. That was embarrassing. 2465 01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,400 Speaker 3: They no historic games with like eighty million people watching, right, 2466 01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:14,439 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 2467 01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:18,760 Speaker 1: It's eleven and six Chiefs at the eleven and six Bills. 2468 01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:22,400 Speaker 3: Buffalo by two and a half. Oh by far and away. 2469 01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,080 Speaker 3: The closest weather it. 2470 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:26,360 Speaker 9: Could be a factor in this game. 2471 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:28,519 Speaker 1: They're getting more Yeah, they're supposed to get more snow, 2472 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,680 Speaker 1: but they think they'll be okay to have the game. 2473 01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have to cancel it. 2474 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,200 Speaker 4: They they said it's a great this is a great game. 2475 01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:37,760 Speaker 4: This is a fun one. Lot of storylines, a lot 2476 01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 4: of history between these teams recently. And I like Buffalo 2477 01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,280 Speaker 4: to get over the home at home against Kansas City. 2478 01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,000 Speaker 4: Send Taylor Swift home. I mean, tough day for Taylor 2479 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 4: Swift there in Buffalo. I'll take Buffalo, lay the points. 2480 01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 3: Alex also takes Buffalo both ways. 2481 01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,080 Speaker 14: I'm taking the Chiefs until the Chiefs lose. I just 2482 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:01,400 Speaker 14: am going to ride the Chiefs. I think that you 2483 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,639 Speaker 14: have the best quarterback. I think they have the best coach, 2484 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,800 Speaker 14: and they're gonna keep riding it until maybe, you know, 2485 01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,519 Speaker 14: I just don't think Buffalo is good enough to really 2486 01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:14,439 Speaker 14: mask those weaknesses of Kansas City to make those come out. 2487 01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,320 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take the Bills or excuse me, the Chiefs. Yeah, 2488 01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,799 Speaker 3: I think that's a logical. I'm going to pick Buffalo 2489 01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:24,559 Speaker 3: at home. But yeah, I think betting against Kansas City 2490 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:25,639 Speaker 3: is not wise. 2491 01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:26,400 Speaker 9: I just can't. 2492 01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,080 Speaker 14: I'm just not sold that the Bills are are gonna 2493 01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,200 Speaker 14: get over the hump, like they're the Bills. 2494 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:35,600 Speaker 3: And I also and I also would have like Kansas 2495 01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,600 Speaker 3: City is kind of a different team that you know, 2496 01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,800 Speaker 3: they contend to run Pa Checko between the tackles and 2497 01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:45,680 Speaker 3: all of those guys being out for the Bills. They 2498 01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:47,720 Speaker 3: lost a lot of guys during that game. I don't 2499 01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 3: know who's coming back, who's going to be able to play. 2500 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,080 Speaker 3: If Bernard can play, that's a big loss. They're already down. 2501 01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,600 Speaker 3: Liked h Klein is out there playing like the whole 2502 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:59,240 Speaker 3: second half last week. But I'm I'm just gonna bet 2503 01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:00,960 Speaker 3: on Josh Allen to get it done. 2504 01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:04,480 Speaker 14: Isn't this a game though? That's like the Chiefs have 2505 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:08,480 Speaker 14: become tough. Like the Chiefs are of a good defense, 2506 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:11,160 Speaker 14: good offensive line. It's kind of like some of the 2507 01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,520 Speaker 14: Patriots teams you know later on in Brady's career, like 2508 01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,920 Speaker 14: eighteen Patriots right, where like it's not all this like 2509 01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,120 Speaker 14: forty point offense anymore, more like. 2510 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:21,120 Speaker 1: The three Patriots. 2511 01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:21,760 Speaker 9: Oh yeah sure. 2512 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,520 Speaker 14: But the Bills, I just I feel like they're soft, right, 2513 01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:27,280 Speaker 14: and I feel like the Chiefs are just going to 2514 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:27,680 Speaker 14: bully them. 2515 01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2516 01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,120 Speaker 3: I didn't think the Bills was soft last week though. 2517 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:31,320 Speaker 3: Did you watch that game? No? 2518 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,640 Speaker 9: But I think they just were playing a tomato. 2519 01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,360 Speaker 1: My instincts are quite what Robert crafts are. They're up there, 2520 01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:41,120 Speaker 1: but not quite I think. And my instincts tell me 2521 01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:43,280 Speaker 1: that the Chiefs win this game. 2522 01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,720 Speaker 4: Wow, that panel is Yeah, so. 2523 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,480 Speaker 3: This is one like the Kansas City, I mean, the 2524 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,480 Speaker 3: the Rams Detroit game. For me, like I normally would 2525 01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,400 Speaker 3: root for both of these teams if they were playing 2526 01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:54,280 Speaker 3: someone a great game. 2527 01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 4: You just want to see both teams succeeds. 2528 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 9: This is when I started against Allen. Yeah, I know 2529 01:55:58,920 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 9: I don't need the Bills, wouldn't it. 2530 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,120 Speaker 3: I just like watching Mahomes and Josh Allen play, so 2531 01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,320 Speaker 3: I enjoy that you're the real winner. I like watching offense. 2532 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:11,520 Speaker 3: Is it that late? 2533 01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:14,000 Speaker 1: I have a meeting? 2534 01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 3: Allow me to Okay, we can. 2535 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,400 Speaker 1: Go, so the picks are in uh, and we'll see 2536 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:23,360 Speaker 1: what happens. I can't wait. 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