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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate you all being here with us.

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Speaker 1: Clay is out today. He is doing fancy things. That's

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Speaker 1: Mara Lago Trump's Southern White House if you will, for

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Speaker 1: the Southern Command for the Trump Administration, and he'll be

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Speaker 1: back with us tomorrow. He sends you all his warmest regards,

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Speaker 1: of course, So it's just going to be me today,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting timing because Manufacturing Delusion is my book

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Speaker 1: and it came out yesterday and already, my friends, it

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Speaker 1: is rocketing up the charts because of all of you.

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Speaker 1: I am deeply gratified, grateful and humbled. But I need

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Speaker 1: those of you who are hearing this for the first time,

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Speaker 1: or have been busy or haven't had a chance yet

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Speaker 1: get your copy. I am in a head to head

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Speaker 1: struggle with anti Trump lunatic eachim who now used to

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Speaker 1: write history books now writes books about how Trump is

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Speaker 1: destroying the Republic. So yeah, we have to beat them,

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Speaker 1: have to beat the big lib offering this week, and

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Speaker 1: I need your help to do it. Otherwise the Smug

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe Table will be high fiving him for the

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Speaker 1: number one New York Times bestseller next week. We cannot

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Speaker 1: allow that. We cannot have it. I need you to

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Speaker 1: mount up get a copy of Manufacturing Delusion. It is,

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Speaker 1: as people are finding when I talk to them in

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Speaker 1: various interviews about the book, very topical. It is about

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Speaker 1: political madness. The Democrat Party, I would argue, has been

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Speaker 1: seized by political madness for years now. They are, in fact,

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Speaker 1: in the grips of continuous but shifting mass hysteria. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's climate change, sometimes it's BLMS, sometimes it's COVID, and

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Speaker 1: this is something. And obviously the transgender issue and the

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Speaker 1: transgender mass shootings that we've seen the last week bring

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Speaker 1: this to the forefront. It is time that we call

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Speaker 1: this what it is. It is massed illusion. And it

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Speaker 1: is only possible because there are tactics of mind control

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Speaker 1: that are being deployed against these individuals, and then en

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Speaker 1: mass they all come together and this is what ends

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Speaker 1: up happening. So this is why Manufacturing Delusion is such

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Speaker 1: an important book and I really need you to go

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Speaker 1: get a copy of it today. And I am going

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Speaker 1: to shamelessly plug it throughout the show because I wrote it,

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Speaker 1: I care about it. It matters. Also some cool CIA

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Speaker 1: stories in there, and stuff from the NYPD when I

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Speaker 1: was there. So things I've never written about or talked

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Speaker 1: about before, even if you've listened to me for fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: There are things in this book, some reminiscences that I

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Speaker 1: have that you will have never heard or you know,

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Speaker 1: I've never talked about before. And yeah, some stuff I

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Speaker 1: did in I Rock which you may find really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Some stuff I did in Afghanistan. So go get your

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Speaker 1: copy today. All right, now, I said mass illusion in

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Speaker 1: the grip of mass illusion democrats, that is certainly the

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Speaker 1: case for them, and we get Mamdaniism already on full display.

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Speaker 1: Now I get that for a lot of you, there's

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Speaker 1: going to be this feeling of schadenfreude. You're going to

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Speaker 1: feel like, you know, New York voted for this, New

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Speaker 1: York gets what it deserves. This is obviously Clay's point

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Speaker 1: of view on this. And this is something that you

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Speaker 1: think doesn't concern you. Here's why I think it does.

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Speaker 1: It concerns all of us. In the same way that

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Speaker 1: Venezuela is a cautionary tale as a nation state for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world. When you put social justice

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Speaker 1: above actual justice, and private property rights and capitalism and

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Speaker 1: individual individual rights. All this the situation in New York

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Speaker 1: a lesson for the rest of the country and what

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Speaker 1: happens when you put a totally unqualified individual in charge

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Speaker 1: things that he does as a result. This is not

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Speaker 1: somebody with any history of management experience, This is not

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Speaker 1: somebody with any policy expertise per se. He knows how

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Speaker 1: to sound charming to people while he tells them, while

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Speaker 1: he tells the ignorant and the resentful what they want

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Speaker 1: was apparently enough enough to become mayor of New York. Now,

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Speaker 1: you might point out that's more than Deblasio brought to

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Speaker 1: He did say the right thing on immigration, of course,

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Speaker 1: going to raise taxes. You know what, I'll let you

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Speaker 1: hear it from Kami Mamdanni himself. This is cut one

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Speaker 2: A heart of this path is a property tax increase.

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Speaker 2: This would effectively be a tax on working in middle

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Speaker 2: requires us to raid our reserves. It would mean with

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Speaker 2: drawing nine hundred and eighty million dollars from our city's

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Speaker 2: Rainy Day Fund in fiscal year twenty twenty six and

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Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty nine million dollars from the Retiree

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to get to drastic measures. Hold on

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Speaker 1: a second, Hold on a second, Mam Donni, Mam Donnie

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Speaker 1: million people, Florida twenty one million people. And Mamdani wants

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Speaker 1: to spend more tax payer dollars on New York City

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Speaker 1: its budget. And this is just completely insane. This is

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Speaker 1: roughly a fifty percent budget increase in five is called

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Speaker 1: six years. In six years, a fifty percent budget increase

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Speaker 1: My friends and I know we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: listeners in New York. We have fantastic WR radio listeners,

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Speaker 1: and many people listen on podcasts, and however they listen

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Speaker 1: to the show. And my family lives in Manhattan, still

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Speaker 1: of us that sit around and just say, well, of course,

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Speaker 1: York City's public school system is awful overall. There are

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Speaker 1: just insane. Twenty six percent of this budget is going

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Speaker 1: and I think actually state in local New York City

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Speaker 1: absolutely egregious taxes in New York so that you can

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Speaker 1: be spending fourteen billion dollars a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: York City budget. There are so many lessons from this,

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Speaker 1: never enough money. Whatever the Mamdani's of the world, whatever

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Speaker 1: Kami Mamdani and his progressive left wing lunatic base, whatever

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Speaker 1: learn the lesson? How many times? But this is where

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Speaker 1: same for a lot of Democrats and a lot of

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Speaker 1: with the ideology of New York City. It's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom and Mamdani really see things the same way.

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Speaker 1: They pander to the takers by scapegoating the makers. They

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Speaker 1: tell people who have resentment for whatever their financial situation is,

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Speaker 1: it's because of those rich fat cats who aren't paying enough.

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Speaker 1: The fat cats, meanwhile, are paying without the top one

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Speaker 1: is preposterous, Like, you lose fifty percent of the revenue.

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Speaker 1: One percent is paying fifty percent, but that's not enough.

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Speaker 1: And the failures of not just the failures that will

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Speaker 1: streets aren't gonna get safer, The free bust thing is

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Speaker 1: never gonna happen. I mean, all these different things. It

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Speaker 1: will be blamed on the people who are paying the

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Speaker 1: taxes that are never enough and that will be wasted

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Speaker 1: communism is a religion. Leftist progressive political thought is a

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Speaker 1: religion replacement. It is in fact a civil or civic religion,

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Speaker 1: if you will. It is their view of themselves. They

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Speaker 1: the right thing to do. They have to pay more

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Speaker 4: There's so many layers today. It's really interesting story. At

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Speaker 1: Coming to light. Here is a media analyst on CNN.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of this guy before, Bill Carter. I

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Speaker 4: Well, you step back. There's a rule that's been on

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Speaker 1: Well, this seems to be a replay at some level

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Speaker 1: We're speaking of FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr right now. And Commissioner,

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Speaker 4: It really is. So in order to broadcast, that means

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Speaker 4: out for is your own viewpoints, your own partisan politics,

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Speaker 4: whatever you want. So you have a license, the government

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Speaker 4: says you must stand in the shoes effectively of people

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Speaker 4: that were denied that microphone. And so you have an

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Speaker 4: obligation to operate with what we call is any public interest,

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Speaker 4: But broadcast is a licensed by the government. It means

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Speaker 4: bargain that you agree to to get free access to

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Speaker 1: I don't even have cable TV commissioners, so I'm kind

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to broadcast television, are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. Isn't that like how remember the old TVs

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Speaker 1: would are people watching CBS via the broadcast or is

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Speaker 1: it digital? How does that work? Just the technology of it,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about.

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Speaker 4: There's a fault per center people that still get their

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Speaker 4: the old rabbit years that we used to have to

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Speaker 4: get it obviously through their cable service as well. And

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Speaker 4: the rules and regulations effectively apply to broadcasts over cable

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Speaker 4: programming that you would get over the year. But also

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Speaker 4: highlights why I think it's important to enforce these rules,

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Speaker 4: with the rules and regulations that apply to it. And again,

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Speaker 4: over the years, the FCC had simply walked away from

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Speaker 4: enforcing that. I don't I don't think we're better off

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you, as would it fall under your

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Speaker 1: remit at the FCC these spam texters is the can

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Speaker 1: you fix this? Commissioner?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, go ahead, we are we are, we are

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Speaker 4: for foreign call centers to deliver traffic here, even legitimate

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Speaker 4: foreign call centers like I've United as a call center

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Speaker 4: in Guatemala. We are looking at additional regulations to compel

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Speaker 4: them to disclose that this is a call center outside

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Speaker 4: doing a lot of work. It's not just us, it's FTC,

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Speaker 4: it's state attorney generals. We're all working to try to

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Speaker 4: but obviously we're a ways all from mission accomplished on that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just good to know someone's on it because

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Speaker 1: it drives me and I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: listening with us right now drives them nuts. And it's

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Speaker 1: so it's such a time waster. It also opens the

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Speaker 1: door to a lot of elder their fraud because people

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Speaker 1: just assume I got a call, a number showed up,

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Speaker 1: you know, the person sounds nice and legitimate, and they're

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Speaker 1: actually from you know, my whatever company or my credit

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Speaker 1: card company, and of course, you know, it turns out

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Speaker 1: that it's it's a scam. So cutting down on this,

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Speaker 1: I just think across the board. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably like a ninety five. There aren't

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Speaker 1: that many issues in politics, but I think cutting down

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, And we're going to be continuing to

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Speaker 4: ramp up our efforts here because we're seeing increasingly, to

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Speaker 4: your point, elder fraud or people are impersonating bangs. You

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Speaker 4: see it with direct messages to people through Facebook either

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Speaker 4: claim any businesses or people. It is a rampant vector

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Speaker 4: right now for fraud. I think almost everybody either has

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Speaker 4: And I do think you're going to see us continue

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Speaker 1: FCC Commissioner, Car appreciate you really explaining in detail what's

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Speaker 1: going on here, setting the record straight, and please come

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Speaker 1: back anytime.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: We're just talking about older fraud using text messages and

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Speaker 1: SEC Commissioner about this. And you want to be protected

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Speaker 3: You don't know what's you don't know, right, but you

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Speaker 3: just on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Want to take your

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Speaker 1: top acts and your calls My friends and UH also

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Speaker 1: remind you that Chip Roy's gonna join us in a

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Speaker 1: third hour. We're gonna do a politics policy nerd deep

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Speaker 1: dive into the Save Act, into the partial government shutdown,

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Speaker 1: the demands about ice from the Democrat Like, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: know more from the conversation we're going to have with

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Speaker 1: Congressman Congressman Roy than anyone who's going on TV over

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Speaker 1: at the MS. Now, that's for Darning sure, talking and

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Speaker 1: spouting off about it. So I really want to get

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Speaker 1: get into that because those those are important issues. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the integrity of our election, something this administration is still

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Speaker 1: very energized by and focused on for obvious reasons, really

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Speaker 1: does matter. And I think that the American people need

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Speaker 1: to know where the two sides, Democrat and Republican fall

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Speaker 1: on this issue. So we will, I promise you, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into some real real policy stuff on that one.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chip Roy knows knows the ins and outs

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Speaker 1: on that, and we have a talkback a let's hit it.

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Speaker 1: This is David and Hendersonville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Wanted to thank you all for carrying on after rush

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Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one, I lost two of the

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Speaker 4: most important people in my life.

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Speaker 1: Spesshlan Law on my mother.

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Speaker 4: So thank you all for carrying on and take care well.

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Speaker 1: David in Tennessee, thank you so much for listening and

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Speaker 1: condolences on your losses there. And yes, we all lost

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Speaker 1: Rush five years ago yesterday, a voice that brought us

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Speaker 1: all so much, so much comfort was a friend. Also,

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Speaker 1: I just can't give a better answer than this. Whenever

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Speaker 1: someone asked me this, say how did you how did

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Speaker 1: you know you wanted to do talk radio? And how

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Speaker 1: did you learn how to do talk radio? And the

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Speaker 1: answer that the real answers is listening to Rush. It's

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Speaker 1: how I learned. It's how I know or how I

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Speaker 1: knew that I wanted to do it. So there was Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's when someone has had that profound and effect on

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Speaker 1: your life. As I sit here now doing radio for

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Speaker 1: a liming yeah, of course you think back to it

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Speaker 1: and the team by the way that is with us

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Speaker 1: here that pulled together a tribute for Rush that you

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Speaker 1: could listen to yesterday, and many of you did. Some

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Speaker 1: of them were with Rush for over twenty years. So

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about someone that they remember in

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Speaker 1: the fondest terms and had the most profound impact on

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Speaker 1: their lives. A team that's still running this show to

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Speaker 1: day was with Rush for twenty most of them worth

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Speaker 1: Rush for twenty plus years. So we got all your

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Speaker 1: emails and all of your feedback on our remembrance of

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Speaker 1: Rush yesterday, and we we really do appreciate it, and

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Speaker 1: we every year, you know, every year we'll take that

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Speaker 1: moment to say thank you for what he did and

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Speaker 1: for the role that he played in so many of

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Speaker 1: our lives as a trusted voice and a trusted friend

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Speaker 1: and obviously a patriot for this country, someone who did

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Speaker 1: so much good. Now we have, like I said, we

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Speaker 1: want to get into this the issue of where things

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Speaker 1: This is having a real effect, and there's some breaking

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Speaker 1: they will take action on. That is what manufacturing delusion

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Speaker 1: is about. And I bring it up one because I

648
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Speaker 1: do need you to go get a copy of the book.

649
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Speaker 1: If you have not yet, please do you know where

650
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Speaker 1: to get If you have a local bookstore, call them

651
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: and see if they have it, because that's great. We

652
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: love to support our local book stores. Otherwise you know

653
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: how to get it online. The audiobook, I read it,

654
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Speaker 1: and it is my voice. It is me reading the

655
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Speaker 1: whole thing. So hopefully you like my voice if you're

656
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Speaker 1: listening to the show, and you will enjoy listening to

657
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: the audiobook as well. The book is doing well so far.

658
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm very sanguine about these things. You know, there's probably

659
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: some you know, some children's book about like a non

660
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: binary polar bear that's going to you know, rocket today out.

661
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Whatever the point is for a political book. It's doing well,

662
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: and we have to beat Meacham's book because he's a

663
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: smug lib who trashes Trump on MSNBC. And there's a

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Speaker 1: chapter in the book though where I get into what

665
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: I was talking about yesterday, a bit which is menticide,

666
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: and menticide is obviously killing of the brain. Coined by

667
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Speaker 1: Juice merlu who was a psychiatrist and in the Second

668
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: World War War Well really debriefed Nazi prisoners of war

669
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Speaker 1: and came to understand very much the Nazi He did.

670
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Speaker 1: He did counter propaganda for the Allies merely was a

671
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Speaker 1: he was Dutch, and then as part of that was

672
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Speaker 1: debriefing Nazis and learned about their propaganda efforts. But he

673
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: came up with mental side, mental annihilation, the murder of

674
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Speaker 1: the mind, and the ways that you achieved this, and

675
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: confusion and degradation again are the twin pillars. If you're

676
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Speaker 1: going to simplify it down, confusion and degradation are essential. Now,

677
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: there are a lot of ways to confuse people, a

678
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: lot of ways to degrade people. You can confuse people

679
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: by putting them in extreme isolation and bombarding them with

680
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: with noise, music sounds that there's all these different things

681
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: that you can do, or you can just be in

682
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: a society where you were constantly bombarded with lies fire

683
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: fire hose of falsehood. It is called it's actually a

684
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: term taken from a rand Rand study on this, and

685
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: these are the ways that you can get people to

686
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Speaker 1: believe crazy things. And it's not quite Pavlov's dogs, which

687
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Speaker 1: we start out with. And Pavlov wasn't working on brainwashing.

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Speaker 1: He was working on the brain body connection, right, what

689
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Speaker 1: what can your brain process, whether it's sight, sound, what

690
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Speaker 1: did What does your brain process in that way that

691
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: then has actual physiological effect. And this is where we

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Speaker 1: get the s salivary reflex of dogs that had come

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Speaker 1: to associate a metronome or a buzzer, not a bell,

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Speaker 1: with feeding time. And unfortunate, if you're a dog lover,

695
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Speaker 1: you'll find out that Pavlov was quite rough with some

696
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Speaker 1: of the dogs, some of the certain some of the

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Speaker 1: animal let's just say that there was no peda some

698
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Speaker 1: of the I won't get into this, but the point

699
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Speaker 1: is this is he was very much interested in the

700
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Speaker 1: digestion of dogs and and this was all to understand

701
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Speaker 1: better how this works in the higher order creatures, human beings.

702
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Speaker 1: But it turns out that even though there were some

703
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Speaker 1: lessons from it, it's also really complicated. Some dogs are

704
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Speaker 1: as anyone knows now, he wasn't training dogs. Pavlov would

705
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Speaker 1: have never said he was training dogs. He was exploring

706
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Speaker 1: this brain body connection, and this is when nobody else

707
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Speaker 1: was doing this, So it was revolutionary work at the

708
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Speaker 1: time he was doing this, of course, before we knew

709
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Speaker 1: what DNA was. He was doing this before the rise

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Speaker 1: of widespread antibiotics. I mean, this was early. It was

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Speaker 1: really turn of the twentieth century, and then the early

712
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Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties when he was doing a lot

713
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Speaker 1: of this work. And what you find is that each

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Speaker 1: individual animal, again working with dogs here, had its own circuitry,

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Speaker 1: and so some of them were much easier to get

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Speaker 1: certain training through to or certain reflexes. Actually conditional reflex

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Speaker 1: in the original Russian. It wasn't just you know, we

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Speaker 1: think of this as like Pavlov and conditioning and conditioned

719
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Speaker 1: conditioned reflex. It was conditional reflex and that's what he

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Speaker 1: was looking at, the reflex of the brain into the

721
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Speaker 1: body and how these things affect each other. So that

722
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Speaker 1: was a revolutionary as I said, revolutionary scientific discovery at

723
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Speaker 1: the time, but always there was this, well, hold on,

724
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Speaker 1: it works better with some dogs than others because they're

725
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Speaker 1: not machines, just like we're not machines. We actually aren't machines.

726
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Speaker 1: And our circuitry, our underlying biochemistry, our soul, these things

727
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Speaker 1: take us out of the realm of science into something else, right,

728
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Speaker 1: something that can't yet be fully understood by charts and

729
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Speaker 1: tables and data and beakers and Bunsen burners and all

730
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Speaker 1: of this. Now that's worth noting because for each and

731
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Speaker 1: every one of us, there's going to be different approaches

732
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Speaker 1: that we have to be particularly mindful of, and different

733
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Speaker 1: things that will work on us. And we are in

734
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Speaker 1: a society now that is more. We are more bombarded

735
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Speaker 1: with information than any other era of the human species

736
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Speaker 1: by far. It is not even close. And you know

737
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Speaker 1: this is true. We carry around in our poet I

738
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: carry more knowledge with my smartphone, or at least access

739
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Speaker 1: to more knowledge than existed in the you know, the

740
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Speaker 1: Great Library of Alexandria. I mean, there's there's just it's endless.

741
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Speaker 1: But also because particularly of social media, there's a feeding

742
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: and refeeding into the system and we have to become

743
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Speaker 1: aware of how this is affecting our circuitry. Again, we

744
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: use the when we talk about ourselves, we use the

745
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: language of electronics and robotics. But of course, as I said,

746
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: there's something different about us too, and even Pavlov noted

747
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Speaker 1: that there's something that you can't just account for with experiments,

748
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Speaker 1: charts and tables. We are all different, We're all unique.

749
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Speaker 1: You might even say, we're all created in God's image

750
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: and therefore or there's something very special and unable to

751
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: be charted on a graph about each and every one

752
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: of us. But this is where I turned to, how

753
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: is it that we became a society with more knowledge,

754
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: more advanced knowledge than anyone else before us, with discoveries

755
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: and with computation and analysis truly unfathomable, even I don't

756
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: know one hundred years before, even in the time of

757
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: the year, certainly the earlier days of Pavlov's research. And

758
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: yet we are a society that has allowed children to

759
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Speaker 1: have genital mutilation surgery in the furtherance of a mass yesteria,

760
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: which is this transgender stuff, something that is increasingly and

761
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: this is also why you'll note it is getting more

762
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: desperate and more violent as an ideology, and as it

763
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: more clearly fails in every respect, which is often the case, right,

764
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: people can become most dangerous when they are feel their

765
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: cornered and they have nothing to lose. This ideology, this

766
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: transgenderism that became a true culture, really a sort of

767
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: mind virus that was spreading very rapidly, and it occurred

768
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: in the twenty first century overwhelmingly, and really in the

769
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: last ten to ten to fifteen years is when this

770
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: gained tremendous momentum. We're now seeing the pushback against this,

771
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: a pushback against this mass hysteria. But I think that

772
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Speaker 1: the way that we were able to get there. Oh,

773
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Speaker 1: the news story I should tell you, the breaking news

774
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: on this is that Nyu Langone Hospital System has said

775
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: that because of the current regulatory environment, it will discontinue

776
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: its gender medicine program for minors. This is a massive

777
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: step forward, This is enormal. This goes to show you

778
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: that just a few years ago there were people who

779
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: were saying it's never going to change, this is here

780
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: to stay. There was a sense even among people I

781
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: think who recognized how wrong this was, there was a

782
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: sense that this could be with us forever because the

783
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: medical associations and big medicine in the hospitals and all

784
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: this were pushing this and believed that somehow this was

785
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: giving people care. And now and now this is something

786
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Speaker 1: that I think is going very clearly in the other direction.

787
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Speaker 1: Here you go. This is and someone in an interview,

788
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Speaker 1: the Manhattan Borough President, Brad Holly Hoyleman Siegel, it's a

789
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Manhattan Borough president, not a doctor, said it was his

790
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: understanding m Yu Lang Gooing would no longer provide hormone

791
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: treatment and other gender related care to transgender youth. Mister

792
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: Houleman Siegel said he was worried that some of m

793
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Speaker 1: Yu langoings transgender patients would struggle to find doctors willing

794
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: to continue their care. I'm horrified at the consequences. It's

795
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: crucial they find alternative care. They deserve care, they should

796
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Speaker 1: get care, psychiatric care. You are not a woman because

797
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: you think you're a woman. That is not reality. That

798
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: is not real. You can never become a woman. There

799
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: is no surgery that can effectuate that. It is not reality.

800
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Speaker 1: And that medicine entered the right And you know I'm right,

801
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: you know as I say those words, what I am

802
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: saying is true, and the other side cannot defeat that truth.

803
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Everything they say is an obfuscation or an evasion or

804
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: an emotional manipulation, but the fundamental truth that you cannot

805
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: be some other gender, You cannot be the other because

806
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: you deem it or wish it, or insist on it

807
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: being So that reality is emerging right now in a

808
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: way way that I think, is I hope going to

809
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: continue with a momentum to stop this, because at this

810
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: point it's just you're saving young people from ruining their lives.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every day that these systems are shut down,

812
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: or every day that they this is horrible the stuff

813
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: that they are doing. And to do this kind of

814
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: thing under the guise of medicine, it's such a betrayal

815
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: of the hippocratic oath, such a betrayal of medical ethics.

816
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: It's very obvious. And this is why when you start

817
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: to ask people, say, how do you fight against the

818
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: manufacturing of delusions? When you ask honest questions, you should

819
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: get answers or honest answers from people who are trying

820
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: to push a certain point of view or push a policy.

821
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Speaker 1: If all they want to do is shout you down

822
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: and bully you. There's a problem. You know, you've established

823
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: something with that. And for as long as there has

824
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: been this transition under really psychological contagion, this phenomenon, as

825
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: long as this has been ascendant in this country, it

826
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: has been clear that if you ask questions about this,

827
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: the people who push it don't want to answer your questions,

828
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: and they want you to shut up or else, and

829
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: they will hurt you. They will hurt your career. As

830
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: we've seen, they'll do more than just hurt your career.

831
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Speaker 1: There is something obviously of the radical in these individuals.

832
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Speaker 1: There is a sense that this is not something they're

833
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: willing to discuss. Really, what other area of medicine are

834
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Speaker 1: they are we not able to have a conversation about, Hey,

835
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Speaker 1: what are the long term prospects for this? What are

836
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: the failure rates? What are the complications? I can ask

837
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Speaker 1: any doctor in America that about a knee surgery and

838
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: they're you know, if they're a decent doctor, they'll sit

839
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: down and they'll talk to me. But if I want

840
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: to get you know, you know how many times I've

841
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: tried to get a transgender doctor in the past to

842
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: come on a show and explain the procedure and what's possible.

843
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: It is not.

844
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Speaker 1: They won't do it. They won't do it. Why not, Oh,

845
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: because you know you're mean and you're right wing. No, actually,

846
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: I actually really want to know. I want people to

847
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: know the reality of this that Nyu Lang gone is.

848
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: And I just let these democrats tour saying, oh, where

849
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: they going to get care? You mean, where are teenage

850
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: girls going to find a doctor that's willing to surgically

851
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: remove their breasts because they're going through a psychiatric disorder.

852
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: Hopefully nowhere because it's not going to turn out well

853
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: for them. And if it was going to turn out

854
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: well for them, by the way, don't you think we

855
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: would all have the long term data and the studies.

856
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: They just say that we don't have these things. We

857
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: don't have these studies. They do some observational study they run.

858
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: It's just like with COVID. They just try to smother

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