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Speaker 1: I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through fan in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: That is the radio flagship home of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: As always, we've got the three times Super Bowl champ

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Speaker 1: and six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton here, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: our special Cowboys alumni this evening is one of the

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Speaker 1: NFL's all time greatest sack artists. Since the NFL started

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Speaker 1: tracking sacks in nineteen eighty two, he is second all

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Speaker 1: time in Cowboys history, and at the time of his retirement,

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Speaker 1: he was one of fifteen players in NFL history with

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Speaker 1: one hundred sacks. Wow, I'm talking about former first round

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Speaker 1: pick and two times Super Bowl champions, Gim Jeff cot Wow, Jim,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: You know I enjoy this. This is the best time

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Speaker 2: of the year when I get to get on with

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Speaker 2: you guys.

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Speaker 3: We always love.

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Speaker 4: Talking to you.

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Speaker 1: And you know it was I was hearing you and

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Speaker 1: Nate talk about something before we started here that he

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Speaker 1: was referencing that you were from Jersey, and I know

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Speaker 1: that that's where you started. So you were, if I've

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Speaker 1: got the trajectory right, you were in New Jersey. You

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Speaker 1: were a nose guard. Initially, you were not a no no, no,

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Speaker 2: I was announced. I had never put my hand in

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Speaker 2: the garden.

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Speaker 3: That's what it was. It is no hand to the ground.

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Speaker 1: You were in New Jersey, you let her in wrestling,

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Speaker 1: your first team All American.

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Speaker 3: Then you chrisscross all the way to.

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Speaker 2: Arizona State, Yeah, almost across the country.

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Speaker 1: And then you're a first round pick and you go

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Speaker 1: all the way over to Dallas here with the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and of course you wrap up your her.

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Speaker 3: You went all the way up to Buffalo, New York,

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Speaker 3: and well you was.

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Speaker 4: Close to it. It's forty five minute flight.

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Speaker 1: You're just you're crossing all over everything. So just talk

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Speaker 1: to me about your high school career and how you

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Speaker 1: ended up in Arizona State of all places.

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Speaker 2: Well, my high school when I first started, I didn't

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Speaker 2: play football until I was a freshman in high school,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't very good. My mother made me good. Uh,

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Speaker 2: she would make me go out there and hit Brodac

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Speaker 2: sapskin and stuff. She says she wasn't gonna have kids

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Speaker 2: that weren't tough. That was at my mama. She had

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Speaker 2: four boys and one girl, and she could have been

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Speaker 2: the heavyweight champion of the world because she had the

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Speaker 2: best left hook, and my dad would just shake his head.

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Speaker 2: But she pushed me to be as good as I

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Speaker 2: could be and everything she challenged me. And she challenged

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Speaker 2: me in the classroom. She was a teacher, and she

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Speaker 2: challenged me on the field. I remember one time me

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Speaker 2: and my dad were watching us. I'll never forget this,

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals game, and this dude he fell down

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Speaker 2: and all the trainers ran out after him. He got

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Speaker 2: up and ran off the field. So I thought I

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Speaker 2: was going to do the same thing in the next game,

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Speaker 2: and she she came out of the stands and she said, oh,

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Speaker 2: she's going to check on her baby. She reached over

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Speaker 2: me and said, you better get your behind up.

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Speaker 4: I jumped up. True story, I never made to tell you.

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Speaker 2: I never was on the ground in high school, college

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Speaker 3: They got you the right way.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's obviously we always hear about you know ed

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Speaker 1: then he decided no, I got to be closer to home,

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Speaker 4: You ended up.

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Speaker 3: How did you have to Arizona?

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Speaker 2: And what happened was I was getting recruited all over

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Speaker 2: and they left me and watch the USC's in Watsington.

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Speaker 2: They left me on the corner and watched, and my

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Speaker 2: we became good friends. But I knew I wasn't going there.

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Speaker 2: And when I got to Arizona State, Arizona State before

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Speaker 2: It was a bowl game they played in in back East.

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Speaker 2: And what happened was is I saw this dude and

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Speaker 4: That's a samoan.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I said, what's a samoan?

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Speaker 2: He said, they got they come from these islands over

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Speaker 2: the dude became His name was Tony Luisa became one

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Speaker 2: he was my host out there when I came out,

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Speaker 2: and we just hit it off.

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Speaker 1: We just hit it off, and that was Was there

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Speaker 2: Lot of What happened was is I went to Michigan

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Speaker 2: And then I went to Penn State. They came in

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Speaker 2: last I thought it was the mafia shoot. I'm from

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Speaker 2: the Jersey for you gotta watch out. They came in

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Speaker 2: and pen strike suits, Joe Patano and them.

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Speaker 2: I said, oh, I ain't going there. Then I went

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Speaker 2: story right there. Them gate to Go Getters had me,

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Speaker 2: but my mom wasn't having it. She wasn't having it.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't gonna let me do that.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you talked about you mentioned that you had

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Speaker 1: always been a stand up Euros to stand up outside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You never kind of put your hand of the when

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Speaker 1: did that process come around for you? Were you were

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Speaker 1: you having to learn that when you're at Arizona stage

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Speaker 2: What happened was is I had to go there and

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Speaker 2: I played every position on the line at Arizona State

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Speaker 2: because I started my freshman year as an outside linebacker. Well,

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Speaker 2: we got a couple of guys that got in trouble

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Speaker 2: and they had to put me down with my hand down.

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Speaker 2: I had never I started playing in a four point stamps.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I just shoot, I just go get things.

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Speaker 2: But and then I got I felt more comfortable. My

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Speaker 2: sophomore year, I had six sacks as a noseguard. My

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Speaker 2: junior year, I had ten sacks as a right end.

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Speaker 2: ten sacks season. So wow, those things. So that's when

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Speaker 2: when the Cowboys drafted me. The great story about that

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Speaker 2: is the great Gil Brand God rest his soul called

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Speaker 2: me a week before the draft and he had picked

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Speaker 2: me in a mock draft and he called me, and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was I grew up in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like the Cowboys at that time. I thought

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Speaker 2: somebody was playing a joke on me, so I hung

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Speaker 2: hang up. I'm really gil brand I picked you in

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Speaker 2: a mock draft and I'm gonna pick you in the

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Speaker 2: regular draft next week. I said, well, yeah, whatever, But

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Speaker 2: then Al Davis called me. Al Davis called me and

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Speaker 2: said he was gonna take me. They had the last pick.

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Speaker 2: They had won the Super Bowl that year, and he

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Speaker 2: said I was He said, you're a Jersey kid.

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Speaker 4: I like you, and he was from New York.

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Speaker 2: And what happened was is the Cowboys had to pick

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Speaker 2: before uh the Raiders, and they they chose me with

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Speaker 1: You know, Nate, when I when I hear Jim talking

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Speaker 1: about that about gil Brandt clearly being a believer in

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Speaker 1: him right from the start. You talked about a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, how how important it was to you

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Speaker 4: And your player.

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Speaker 1: How big is that to have, whether it's a coach

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Speaker 1: or a front office member or a veteran on the team,

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Speaker 1: How big.

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Speaker 3: Is it for for both of you guys? The idea

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Speaker 3: of just having.

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Speaker 1: A sponsor, somebody who's like gonna go to the bathroom,

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Speaker 1: just say, hey, like, we need to believe in this guy.

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Speaker 3: How big is that for both of you?

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Speaker 4: It's everything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, have a veteran guyspas the guys that me

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Speaker 5: and Jeff watched on TV. You know, even though he

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Speaker 5: didn't like him, he liked the Giants, he liked the Jets.

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Speaker 4: And so he had to play the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: So he's always seen them and they've been dumbinant players

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Speaker 5: and Randon. So when you have guys that willing to

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Speaker 5: work with you and you can watch them and.

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Speaker 4: See how they true professionals, that's a great thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the gym and and random used to be

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Speaker 5: doing it. All these hand techniques and all this stuff

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Speaker 5: you know mister Miyagi karate and he do.

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Speaker 4: You got to tell him about the job.

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Speaker 2: What happened was is that Ernie Startner our d line

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Speaker 2: coaching was he's in the Hall of Fame. He's six,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five and he's in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame as a defensive lineman. So you know how

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Speaker 2: tough he was. He told Randy and Ed it was

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Speaker 2: Martin abruptly retired after my first year. And Randy would

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Speaker 2: amazing thing. He would never blink. We'd be watching those

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Speaker 2: eight milimeter films and he would showing me everything he

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Speaker 2: just better than everybody else. Some people are born that way.

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Speaker 2: And Ed would teach me a shoot. I couldn't do

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Speaker 2: things Ed with Shoot. He's six' nine, right.

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Speaker 3: His arms go all the way.

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Speaker 4: Out. Shoot he could touch the moon with them. Arms.

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Speaker 2: Shoot But randy would take time with, me And ed

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Speaker 2: would take Time Harvey, martin and they showed me the

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Speaker 2: little things in the flex defense and playing defensive line

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Speaker 2: in THE. Nfl AND i really appreciate all those guys

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Speaker 2: working with me because they could have just threw me

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Speaker 2: to the, wolves you.

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Speaker 4: Know it.

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Speaker 1: Was it's Interesting we've had a couple of different guys

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Speaker 1: come in here and talk about their experience of the

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Speaker 1: transition From Tom landry To Jimmy, johnson and and for

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Speaker 1: a lot of, guys a lot of, veterans that was

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Speaker 1: a difficult, transition that that was something where you, know all,

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Speaker 1: right this isn't gonna work. Out Everson wallas has talked

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Speaker 1: about that there were some challenges he moves.

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Speaker 3: ON i know there Were, gosh who.

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Speaker 1: Was at the Old michigan defensive tackle you guys, Had Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Brooks Kevin brooks requested a trade out of here pretty fast,

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Speaker 1: after you, know realizing he And jimmy didn't exactly kind

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Speaker 1: of link. Up why do you think for, you as

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Speaker 1: somebody who came from being like A landry, guy you

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Speaker 1: were able to get through that and see the side

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Speaker 1: and and reach the pen of The Super?

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Speaker 3: Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Absolutely and they probably agree with. Us they talk

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Speaker 2: about how Physical jimmy's practices. Were, shoot we were doing

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Speaker 2: three hour practices with Coach.

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Speaker 4: Landry thank.

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Speaker 2: You jimmy never went more than an hour of forty five,

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Speaker 1: jimmy just Goes Darren woodson starting at safety and it's, like,

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Speaker 1: that ninety two team the acquisition Of Charles.

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Speaker 2: Haley, well it's, Interesting. Jimmy when they Acquired, Charles jimmy

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Speaker 2: Haley but he, Said i'm gonna make you very. Valuable

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Speaker 3: And you had.

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Speaker 1: It you had a really strong season of ninety, Yeah

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Speaker 2: I did because he kept me. Fresh And jimmy was

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Speaker 2: That But jimmy did take care of, me you.

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Speaker 5: OTAs thank you, guys Thank Jimmy johnson for. That he

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Speaker 1: Super bowl twenty, seven AND i think it's it's the

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Speaker 1: That's Mark schlareth has been in the news this week

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Speaker 1: Zach but But, SLAITH i, know has told the story

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Speaker 1: that he was With washington and he said he was

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Speaker 1: single guy who would start for that football. Team we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get our asses sick. Today LIKE i knew we

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Speaker 1: You guys carried yourself and kind of transitioning it to present,

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Speaker 2: POUNDER i, mean they get the Big they're getting hit

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Speaker 2: Them so you gotta have fresh guys that can go.

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Speaker 2: In that gives you the only opportunity to play against

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Speaker 2: just sit those guys take a pounding in. THERE i,

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00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: mean you need at least three or, four Like nate,

439
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 2: said whittles down when you get to the. Playoffs but

440
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: you gotta have some fresh bodies. Inside it's easier to

441
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: play defensive end than it is to play defensive.

442
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: Tackle, YEAH i mean that's something that you, Know Nate

443
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: Tyron crawford's talked, about is the idea of. Man WHEN

444
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: i had to play on the, INTERIOR i felt Like

445
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: i've been in a car. Wreck the next, Day Michael

446
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: parsons before he left, here talked about rushing up the a.

447
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: Gap he took a beating in there BECAUSE i, mean

448
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: that's the job that you guys are trying to do

449
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: on the, inside is you're you're bracketing, them you're double

450
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: team and you're trying to beat them up there on the.

451
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: Interior, yeah it's just.

452
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 4: WOW i mean WHEN i don't do errors.

453
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 5: Anymore you know you heard me, SAY i don't do

454
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 5: errors because What Ernie, stottman his, coach defensive line, goal

455
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 5: what they went through in the fifties and sixties was

456
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 5: a little bit different than the six in the. Seventies

457
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 5: in the eighties was a libit difference in the, nineties

458
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 5: in the early two thousand and. Now one THING i

459
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 5: do like about, now AND i tell, people is not

460
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: everybody's on the same.

461
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: Page, yes like.

462
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: Like, uh the forty nine ers used to practice two

463
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 5: hours and fifteen, minutes but they basically be in no.

464
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 5: Pads they just wide, open running as fast as they,

465
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 5: can whereas we was gonna be one forty, five but

466
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 5: we're gonna be padded up at least half of, them

467
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 5: and it's gonna be. Physical it's gonna be. Physical so

468
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 5: each coach was allowed to run his. Organization but now

469
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 5: that's that's out the. Window you get the same amount

470
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 5: of paddy. Practices these practices can't go but so long and,

471
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 5: players you, know so you're. Fresher LIKE i was telling To,

472
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: Jim jim is he was a workout. ANIMAL i was, Like,

473
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: jim you could have played to you eighty five because

474
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 5: he was because he kept himself. Right i'm, serious, man no.

475
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 5: Yoke he whereas, ME i probably would have played an

476
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 5: extra few, years but the bill would have got.

477
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: Me you know What i'm. Saying but here's the.

478
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: Thing And i'm Not Martin leevey was a heck of a,

479
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: coach but they were the similar to what they do, today.

480
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: RIGHT i think that because we were so physical in

481
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: nature of our, Practice, yes that kept us healthy because

482
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: we didn't have a lot of injuries because we were

483
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: acclimated to the.

484
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 4: Hitting, yes.

485
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i mean that's something that you, know a

486
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: lot of players have talked about today that you, know

487
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: the ramp. Up we're hearing a lot about that right

488
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: now With Trayvon. Dicks like the ramping up and getting

489
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: yourself ready to be able to take hits and the

490
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: process that you got to go through with. That let's

491
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: go ahead and take our second break here on THE

492
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: Slbbc Cowboys. Crosstalk we Got Jim Jeff co joining us.

493
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Tonight when we come, Back we're going to dive into

494
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: This detroit game a little bit and we're gonna get

495
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: the thoughts Of jim And nate both on This George

496
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: pickens situation quote, unquote The George pickens discussion that's taking

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00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: place in the media right. Now that's next on THE

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Speaker 1: Slbbc Cowboys Crosstalk.

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Speaker 3: Steps from at and T.

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Speaker 7: Ston cowboys Hos No cowboards.

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Speaker 9: And you're live back back at S Wbc, Mortgages Dallas

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Speaker 9: Cowboys crosstalk check just broadcasting live from The Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Club as a star In, FRISCO i want to use

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Speaker 3: what the pros use And Mickey.

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Speaker 1: Bagnola Jack black is the official men's skincare brand of

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Speaker 1: The Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys does it Get Jack black Dot?

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Speaker 3: Today he? Does he loves. It what he said here

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Speaker 3: he told. Us how about you love Get Jack. Black

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00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: welcome back.

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00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: To The, Cowboys belove The star And frisco for THE

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00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Swbc Cowboys Cross talk coming to you live on The

514
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio, Network Dallas cowboys Dot com and all

515
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: other associated social media. Platforms I'm Bobby belt from ONE

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00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: o five through to fan that's the radio flagship home

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00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: with The Dallas, cowboys joined tonight as always by the

518
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: three Time Super bowl, champs six Time Pro Bowler Nate

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00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: dudon and our Special cowboys. Alumni this evening is defensive

520
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: End jim Jeffco so we talked about this guy's a

521
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: little bit going to the. Break first, off before we

522
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: get into some of the, SPECIFICS i guess about This

523
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: George pickens, Discussion i'd like to hear from both of,

524
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: You jim and Then, nate just overall takeaways from the,

525
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: game what you saw out there with the three game

526
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: winning stream getting snapped.

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00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Well before the, game one of my friends asked me about.

528
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: IT i, said if they can stop to, run they

529
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: have an, opportunity because the most frustrating thing for a

530
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: defense is a team being able to run the ball.

531
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Consistently and they. Were and THEN i mean they have

532
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Sat Saint john's and Say brown and he's an exceptional

533
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: receiver and they do have that, talent but that running

534
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: game is what got him at the running game and

535
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: having success in, that and that's. Difficult if you can't

536
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: stop the running, game you can't rush the, quarterback.

537
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 5: And they did WHAT i call a Classic San francisco,

538
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: move whereas there was Let montgomery kind of beat up that,

539
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: exactly and then they would they was Like jamier hit

540
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: up in there right on the corners of the, edge

541
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 5: but then they would have thrown to. Him they throw to,

542
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 5: them making our linebackers Become it made us very.

543
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: Vulnerable so now we had to spread out to deal

544
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: with this.

545
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: Exactly then we Had omar doing his, thing Then james

546
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 5: and they did a masterful job as a coaching staff

547
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 5: and out flinking us with their. Players they they got

548
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 5: the mismatches they needed all game.

549
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: Long, yeah and they.

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00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Showed up and it felt like some of, that you,

551
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: know the leak out throws to To Junior gibbs that

552
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: completely killed. Them wanting to blitz the. Drive they were

553
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: going blitz, heavy and then they it was clear.

554
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: They're, like, ah we were.

555
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: Gonna make it way too vulnerable to What gibbs is doing,

556
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: here especially BECAUSE i don't think they Thought i'm in

557
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Ros Saint brown was gonna. Play, yeah and then when

558
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Amanas Saint brown is out there and he clearly looks totally,

559
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: fine and that's more like AN nba injury. Report the

560
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: line's put out, there but he looked totally fine out

561
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: there and was able to run.

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: At full speed and was basically Doing roquette high.

563
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: Kicks pregame that when you Have Saint brown out, there

564
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: you gotta count for. Him now that changes up what

565
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna have to vote resources and

566
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: they get.

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00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: To stop on the first.

568
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Drive but you could see the the explosiveness Of gibbs

569
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: even on that first, drive and it felt like it

570
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: changed things.

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00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: Up, Nate i'm curious for.

572
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: You on the offensive, side felt like this was a

573
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: tough game for them to be able to Protect dak.

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00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Consistently he was he was feeling a lot of heat

575
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: in this. Game what did you see when you went

576
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: back and watched the offensive?

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: Line you, know every week you've heard me sit here

578
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 5: in uh been. Trying our offensive line has not performed

579
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: as good as everybody thought Because dak has been doing

580
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 5: a masterful job of manipulating the. Pocket he couldn't do

581
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 5: that this. Week you couldn't do that last. Week he

582
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: didn't not manipulate that, pocket and it showed up.

583
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: Across the. Board we had breakdowns and, that and.

584
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: That's what you can't have if it's one, thing when

585
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: it's one tackle or another, tackle you can turn the.

586
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: Protection but when the middle of your your, offense your

587
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 5: centers and guard are not playing, well you got.

588
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: Problems and it got us.

589
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: That it got, us that got us In, denver it

590
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: got us in The chicago, game he got us in

591
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 5: The carolina. Game whenever our middle don't perform, well that's

592
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 5: guards and center and two guards don't perform well above.

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00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: Average this is what you can.

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00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: Expect, yeah AND i mean it was a there's a

595
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: give them credit for they, scrapped they, fought they they,

596
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: brought they brought it back to that. Possession they were

597
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: not able to get that one stop in the fourth,

598
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: quarter which is, honestly that's been kind of the story

599
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: of the year that when they lose, games it usually

600
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: they can't get one. Stop it's they need one stop

601
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: and they can't get.

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00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: It and they will tell you, this especially with the offensive.

603
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: Line it's.

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00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: Continuity and the injuries disturbed that continuity for the offensive.

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: Line and that was the thing you saw on the

606
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: offensive line is, uh the left tackle was out and

607
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: things guiding and stuff like, that and you need that.

608
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: Continuity this is one, thing AND i don't want to

609
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 5: make people mad at, me BUT i gotta tell you, this.

610
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: And this is what happened When jimmy.

611
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: Came you can sustain winning longer when you have better.

612
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: Talents.

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00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 5: True when when when we got to where we, was,

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00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 5: yeh Jim jeff's could, start you, know him And jimmy

615
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: worked it, out, so, okay you become a great pass

616
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: rusher instead of.

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00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: Been out every down defensive.

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00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: End we Had Russell, maryland we had to we had

619
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: we had four or five starter. Leftters but when you

620
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: when you have that as your, depth you can win.

621
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: Longer it happens in baseball all the.

622
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: Time it ain't that we got a home run, hitter

623
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 5: but we got guys that can play around him and

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00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: get him.

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00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 4: Sustained and that's the. Thing we don't have that, depth.

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00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: Y'ALL i mean we don't have.

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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i, mean and it's hard in this day

628
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: and time because of salary cap and, yes what it,

629
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: is but you look at. It When nate was saying

630
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: that you Had Kevin, Gogan, yeah you Had John. GIESE i,

631
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: mean you had guys that could go in there and

632
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: they start on all the other.

633
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: Teams we.

634
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 5: Geezek we got as a starter from me from uh

635
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 5: from The. Raiders we Got Kevin gogan and he left

636
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 5: and went to the, ratings became an all. Pro we

637
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 5: we Got alan Vine grad back up From Green, bay

638
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 5: came here and started, left came here and played back

639
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: then and left here and. Started Ron stone left. Here

640
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 5: it became all At New.

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00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: York come, on, corners, baby, Yeah and he's you know,

642
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: what guys that would not leave because Big baby could

643
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: have went somewhere else and he started all those years.

644
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: And, yes it's same with. Corners he could have. Left

645
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: and when it started, Somewhere carl, like, Nah.

646
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm, Good i'm. Good come, on.

647
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: Man and you know when we talk about that depth

648
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: and some of the things that you, have when you're

649
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: talking about on the offensive. LINE i remember us talking

650
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: to somebody in Player personnel a couple of years ago

651
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: and they were talking about offensive line in THE nfl

652
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: today and they're, like offensive line is a talent starved.

653
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: Position In, yes he, started he, said.

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00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: We don't Have he, said you need one hundred and

655
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: sixty offensive lineman to get starters for every. Team he's,

656
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: like we don't have one hundred and sixty good Offensive and.

657
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: There's a reason behind, that AND i coached college, football.

658
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: Is the schemes are.

659
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: Different yes they. Are there's no pounding. Anymore just Like nate,

660
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: said they're doing the same. Thing they're not hitting as

661
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: much and they're not teaching and developing. It and that's

662
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: hard on them and it's not their. Fault you're seeing

663
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: guys that are physically, gifted, yes, sir but do they

664
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: understand how to play the, position the, angles the?

665
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 5: Leverage? Man you right, now you go and look and you, said,

666
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 5: man what's that big grass spout where all the grass?

667
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: Go and you go digging all that grass and the

668
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 5: three men and seven man slid exactly. Rusty but it's

669
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 5: happening in all. Positions, yes and that's unfortunately because you're

670
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 5: losing some of the things that made the game so.

671
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 4: Beautiful, Right, well.

672
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: Let's talk about one of the big things that came

673
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: out of this.

674
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Game we're being joined to night By jim jeffco here

675
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: on THE Swbc Cowboys Cross. Talk so one of the

676
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: big narratives that came out of this game Was George.

677
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Pickens George pickens obviously has had a great year for The,

678
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: cowboys a lot of discussion about whether the effort was

679
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: there the way you would, want whether he performed at

680
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: a level that you, want particularly WANT cd without went

681
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: out with the concussion which Ceedee lamb looked like he

682
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: was about on pace to three hundred yards in this.

683
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: Game they could not cover, him but a lot of

684
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: discussion coming to. That dak even after the game said,

685
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: yeah not his best. GAME i think he'd tell you,

686
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 1: that you know. Shot he talked about having a discussion With,

687
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: george but it's created a lot of intense. Scrutiny Richard

688
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: sherman had a lot of negative things to say him

689
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: right after say about him right after the. Game Kirk

690
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: kirbstreet was saying a lot of negative things during the.

691
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: Game mark Schlaire, i who we mentioned last segment earlier

692
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: this week on our station one oh Five through The,

693
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: fan had said that that's an example right there why

694
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: he would never Sign George pickens to an. Extension so

695
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy criticism. Nationally i'm curious for you,

696
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: guys former, players what was your take on what you

697
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: saw From pickens On thursday and what it means moving?

698
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: Forward if a.

699
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: First correct, me If i'm, Wrong he was injured earlier

700
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: in the. Week, yeah remember he was. Injured he was

701
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: injured earlier in the, week and he never complained about.

702
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: It he went and did his. BUSINESS i think it

703
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: was an ankle. Injury and there are gonna be, times

704
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 2: and that's why you GOT, cd AND i KNOW cd

705
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: got injured In george and why they make a good

706
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: combination in the young. Kid, YEAH noi, yeah and somebody

707
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: else has to step. Up some, days you're not gonna

708
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: be your, best no matter how good you. ARE i,

709
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: mean the only guy that's the best every time Is Miles.

710
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Garrett but other than.

711
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: THAT.

712
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 4: I, know but some days he.

713
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: Still has more sacks THAN i think The bengals and

714
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: the forty nine.

715
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: ERS i.

716
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Know but the thing you got to realize is some

717
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: days you can work as hard as and it's not

718
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 2: gonna go your. Way for whatever. Reason is the guy

719
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: that's playing against you is talented or they're playing coverages

720
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: that you struggle. With but he admitted. It and the

721
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: same thing at the week, before if you Remember cee

722
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: had a rough game and whether he came back two weeks, Before,

723
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: SIR i guarantee You George picking is gonna show.

724
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: Up this, Week, nate what are your thoughts on?

725
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: It you, know.

726
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: And we talked about this. Before this is the GUY

727
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: i saw At. Pittsburgh this is his routes has been

728
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: basically the. Same and you could go in there and

729
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 5: you can.

730
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: Pick out us up, man go right To pittsburgh and

731
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: it's the.

732
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: Same where he lost contact With pittsburgh is he got

733
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 5: a little flamboyant with it with the off the field,

734
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: things or to come in. Late and so The stillers

735
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: are the no nonsense. Guys they that's just who they.

736
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: Are we are living at more lenient here with the.

737
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 5: COWBOYS i say this right, here Mister, sherman you can

738
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 5: say what you, want your national. Guy, okay say what you.

739
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 5: Want sla got you, KNOW i got mother love was

740
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: fla uh. Y'all we played too many games to go

741
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: out of player like.

742
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 4: That we played too many. Games you.

743
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 5: Know we've Seen sherman get. Burnt we've Seen Nate noon

744
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 5: give up. Sex we've Seen slur give up. Sex so

745
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: when you critical of another, player you, know find out the.

746
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: Backstory say, okay got leave. Ahead twelve great. Games the

747
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 5: thirteenth game is a sub part. Game i'm not going

748
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 5: at that, kid like that, Right i'm not.

749
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: And plus wide receivers the. Deeps, yeah you want a

750
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: little of. That you gotta be on that. Island you

751
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: want a little bit of like cocking. Is i'm curious

752
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: for you, Specifically. Jim you were you mentioned you were

753
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: a coach and and you had to coach. Players i'm

754
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: sure there were times that when you're watching, things you'd

755
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: see your guys in the film and go, like that's

756
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: that's not the.

757
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: EFFORT i will that's not what and that's that's.

758
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: True how do you how do you differentiate that when

759
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: you're looking at how do you look at do you

760
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: have to be really careful to question?

761
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: Effort to say it has to be really.

762
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: So you gotta find out what's going on and why

763
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: this is not giving. You, yeah he might tell you, you, hey,

764
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: coach my, ANKLE i can't, move or he might, say,

765
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: HEY i had a bad. Day ain't gonna happen. Again

766
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: but you can't beat him down because you got to

767
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: lift them. Up if you know you better than. That

768
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: you got too much skill and you've been too you

769
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: come too far, Right and that's the way you talk to.

770
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: Him you don't just say well you and it Wasn't

771
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't his best. Effort but we know THAT i,

772
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: guarantee LIKE i, said he'll he'll give a better effort this.

773
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: Week that's not The George pickens and you'll.

774
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: Be like wow and we We we have this discussion

775
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: earlier today on Media mash a little bit On Dallas

776
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: cowboys Dot com that, uh you know new He scruggs

777
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: was talking, About, hey you know there's, uh there's Also

778
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Jake ferguson fumbled And cavante, terpinentally like why are we

779
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: not talking about some of these other guys in the

780
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: same sort of.

781
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: Context it feels like it's, just you, know.

782
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: The the the memory of what the narrative was coming

783
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: out Of pittsburgh just feels like it may be present

784
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: here of just like whenever he has a game that's,

785
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: down that's what's gonna be the. Expectations people are going

786
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: to bring that.

787
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: Up exactly they.

788
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: Are but you got to understand that how many games

789
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: have they, played as you, said? Thirteen SO i mean

790
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: that takes a toll on. Me And i'm not making

791
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: excuses for, him but your body changes as the season,

792
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: progresses and this kid has been playing SUPER i Mean

793
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: he's made some spectacular catches AND i think he will

794
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: do it. AGAIN i think he just had one of

795
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: those days and they happen no. Matter, yeah it's THE,

796
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: nfl THE, nfl, Bro it'll humble you.

797
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Mane, now obviously you guys are saying don't overreact to,

798
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: it but would if you would have seen. That let's

799
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: say you guys are on that team and you see that, PERFORMANCE,

800
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: o there are either of you going just like checking out,

801
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: him like hey you? Good or are There either are

802
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: the discussions players would. Have would you expect that to

803
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: be a head coach conversation or more player to play,

804
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: like hey go check in on, him make sure he's.

805
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: Good, yeah because there could be other things going on within,

806
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: him and there could be something off the field that

807
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: we don't know, about and things like.

808
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: That some things.

809
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: Happen LIKE i, SAID i think sometimes we overreact to certain,

810
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: things especially with. Players AND i think that he's going

811
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: to do well because the kid has been playing really.

812
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, ridiculous it's been.

813
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 4: Crazy you have one in one. Game But i'm gonna never.

814
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: Forget this is The Dallas cowboys where everything would get.

815
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: Overblown you can catch one hundred yards and never call

816
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 5: for one hundred Yard now you're a. Superstar, yeah you,

817
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: know so it's just that it comes with the.

818
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Star, Yeah AND i Mean George, PICKENS i think in

819
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: the lead up to that, game he had the quote

820
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: something to the effect, of you, KNOW i felt like

821
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: WHEN i was In, pittsburgh everybody heard. Me When i'm In,

822
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: DALLAS i feel like everybody sees, me and like like

823
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: there's a there's a power behind That. Cowboys but it's

824
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: a double edged.

825
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: Sword.

826
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Obviously that comes to, that, like, hey you're gonna have

827
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: to deal with a lot of national criticism whenever anything

828
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: is is not going right.

829
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Well and that makes a good point because that's why

830
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: a lot of players have failed here is because they.

831
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 4: Can't take the.

832
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: Expectations you play in the, Medium, MARK.

833
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: I Mean Kansas city In dallas was the highest ranked, Game,

834
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: yeah MOST. Nfl, right that's like that's the. Expectations your

835
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: expectations are bigger, here and that's just the reality of.

836
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: IT i, mean if you're not winning Super bowls where

837
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: you're not that, good, yeah, yep it has.

838
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Been Thirty is that that Is Nate newton that you

839
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: just heard From Jim jeff got a second. Ago he's

840
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: our guest tonight on THE Slwbc Cowboys Cross. Talk let's

841
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: take our final break when we come, Back let's look

842
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: ahead a little bit to this game Against, minnesota talk

843
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: about some of the things that The cowboys will need

844
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: to get ready and whether or Not Trayvon diggs will

845
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,719
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00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,680
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Speaker 1: com and all other associated social media. Platforms On Bobby

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00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,360
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00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,719
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00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,719
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862
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: Special cowboys alumni is defensive End Jim. Jeffcoat so we've

863
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: got The minnesota game coming up. Here this is not

864
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: A minnesota team.

865
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 4: That is is just.

866
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: TERRIBLE i don't know that the record totally matches. Up,

867
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: defensively they've been really strong this. Year they Beat, chicago

868
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: you know you weren't able to do. That they've Beaten

869
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: detroit this. Year They've they've had some decent victories out,

870
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: there and that's been a football team that over the

871
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: last couple, years their m their calling card is generally

872
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: they kind of fight and that they're going to be

873
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: a difficult.

874
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: Out but one of the.

875
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Questions that is out there this week is the question

876
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: Of Trayvon diggs and Whether Trayvon diggs will. Return he

877
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: had had his practice window activated last. Week there was

878
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: an expectation he was going to be, available then he was.

879
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Not Today Brian onheimer's asked about his. Availability this is

880
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: what he. Said he, said he's still in the ramp up.

881
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: Period he does feel. HEALTHY i know he wants to,

882
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: play but at the end of the, day we have

883
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: to do what we think is in the best interest

884
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: of not just, him but also this football. Team when

885
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: you miss, time there's a ramp up period or not

886
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: just your, body but your mind figuring out the. Defense

887
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: and there's some new faces in the. Huddle and this

888
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: was the key. QUOTE i got a lot of attention.

889
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: TODAY i love him as a, player but ultimately he's

890
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: got to show us that he's ready to do everything

891
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: the right.

892
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: Way so when you.

893
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Hear something like, that what do you think shot he's

894
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: talking about in terms of getting?

895
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 3: Ready is that just a you, know time on task.

896
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: Thing when you hear something like, that is that more

897
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: about fitting into what is a very different defense than

898
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the one That Trayvon diggs last played, in since the

899
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: entire middle of the defense is. Different, now how do

900
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: you generally approach that sort of a?

901
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: Question you know, what? MAN i learned what it was

902
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 4: to be a team.

903
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: Guy Jeff quote has always been a team, guy and

904
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 5: SO i had to learn it wasn't About, nate it

905
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: was about the team. Exactly and for a, coach you

906
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 5: have to go through that which you just went through

907
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 5: and read and, said you, know Ta Ron digg got

908
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 5: all the talent in the, world but does he want

909
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: to be a part of this? TEAM i don't. KNOW

910
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: i can't say one way or, another BUT i want

911
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 5: to want the coach to say what this coach just.

912
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: Said that's just me AND.

913
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: I agree with. It wasn't they saying because it's team.

914
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: First this team, first the more successful for your. Team

915
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: everybody eats, yes and that's the. Thing he has to realize.

916
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: That you, know he can go somewhere and be a.

917
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: Star but there's a lot of stars in this league

918
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: that never won Super bowls or never had the opportunity

919
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: to play for Super.

920
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: Bowls and that's the.

921
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: Thing they had the individual, awards but the whole team

922
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: gets towards when you put a A when we put

923
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: up that, trophy it didn't matter who would and how

924
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: much you, played it was that you were part of that.

925
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 3: Team, yes so we do have the vikings this. Week

926
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: digs obviously would be a big boost for.

927
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: Them it feels like they've played every game. Essentially it

928
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: feels like for the last twelve weeks with three healthy.

929
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: Corners going into a.

930
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: Game it seems like as soon as one guy gets,

931
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: healthy somebody else gets banged.

932
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: Ups has not been a lot of availability there. There

933
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: they've obviously got.

934
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: A kevin O'Connell passing game come to, town that very creative.

935
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Mind they've had some struggles, obviously trying to figure out

936
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: their quarterback. POSITION jj McCarthy is back now after dealing

937
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: with some injuries this. Season but you, Know Aaron jones

938
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: is a big time running. Back they've had some success

939
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: With Jordan mason this. Year they've had some efficiency in

940
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: their run. Game is this another game we're looking at

941
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: here like last week where you're, saying, hey just stop

942
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: the run game primary number.

943
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: One, WELL i think they'll stop the run game because

944
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: they also Have mason who's been running for. Him but

945
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: the thing is is McCartney is not being healthy and

946
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: they've been, inconsistent and you have to take advantage of.

947
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: It plus you have any advantage when you're playing here

948
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: In texas as opposed to playing In. Minnesota that's gonna help.

949
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: Him that's gonna help. Him their defense is it's a

950
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: little bit unusual some of the things they, do but they're.

951
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: Going dad is really good at, home as we all,

952
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: know and he takes advantage of. It his big games

953
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: have been In texas are at AND T.

954
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: Stadium, Yeah AND i mean it's something Where nate when

955
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: you look at that that dychadomy that, exists like the

956
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: way they playing the road versus at, home and at

957
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: home they do put up a lot of. Points there

958
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: was a stretch there of about four. YEARS i think

959
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: that When dak was healthy they averaged almost forty points

960
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: per game at. Home so when you see, that is

961
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: that just about playing, surface being able to play. Fast

962
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: when you see that that they play better at, home

963
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: do you see anything instantly that makes sense of?

964
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: That they might just feel more.

965
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: Comfortable BUT i promise you they better be ready because

966
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: Coach fleur is coming with.

967
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 4: It, yeah and he's coming with a.

968
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: Blitz so.

969
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 5: Exactly i've always felt that the REASON dak is played

970
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: well at, home, well we're more of a run team at.

971
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 5: Home and MAYBE i don't that's where my eyes. See

972
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: you're more of a run team at. Home offense. Relaxing

973
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: people more comfortable at home because you, know they dealing

974
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: with the noise and the mass. Confusion they can hear,

975
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 5: everything so, yeah you can hear at, home and people

976
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 5: are a little bit more of. CONTROL i don't know

977
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 5: if there'll soul lot of tickets to The, snowbirds you

978
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 5: know What i'm. SAYING i hope will have fifty buffalo

979
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 5: blew up in. There but, hey everybody's. Home they're. Comfortable

980
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: the noise level is what he needs to. Be they

981
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 5: can make.

982
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: Adjustments a couple of different injury questions heading the end

983
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: of this. Game they Missed Jadavion clowney last. Week clowney

984
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: has Been clownie's really settled into being a really strong

985
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: run defender for, them somebody who holds the. Edge he

986
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: he's had a couple different games where he's rushed the passer.

987
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: Well so they missed. Him he was practicing in a

988
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: limited capacity. Today that's that's an encouraging. Sign he was

989
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: close last. Week you didn't Have Tyler. Guy last week

990
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: you Lost Seed. Lamb those are gonna be the big.

991
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: Questions lamb was a limited participant, today.

992
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: But they specifically on. Guiding how big for.

993
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: You is it to just, say let's get back to

994
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: the guys who have all been playing. Together let's make

995
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: sure that that group's out.

996
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 5: There What i'm gonna say is this right, here if

997
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 5: my center and two guards are playing, well it's guiding

998
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 5: to be all. Right but IF i center and two,

999
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 5: guards Because i'm telling, You flores.

1000
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 4: Won't get in your middle and confuse your. Center.

1001
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: Bro if these three guys play, Well guiding's gonna be.

1002
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 5: Okay but if our, center because they ab, Blitzers, bro

1003
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 5: look at the, film they want to confuse you in that.

1004
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 5: Middle so if those two three guys in the middle

1005
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: are playing, Well giden's gonna be.

1006
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: Alright and.

1007
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Uh The Javian cownley is similar to WHAT i did

1008
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: at the end of my career in the Same. Personnario, yeah,

1009
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: Yeah but what he does is he creates. Chaos, yes

1010
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 2: and he does. IT i MEAN i think a couple

1011
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: of games ago he had six tackles and two the

1012
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: city In Kansas, city and he's creating chaos and he

1013
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: knows he's an old vent he understands the, game and

1014
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't. Play you, know seventy eighty plays a. Game

1015
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna play thirty five the most forty, plays, right

1016
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: and that's where he should.

1017
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: Be.

1018
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: Well hopefully they are able to get some solid footing

1019
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: this week against The. Vikings big news On, Monday eagles obviously.

1020
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: Lose that's continued good news for The cowboys as they

1021
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: look to stay in this playoff.

1022
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: Fight go, Ahead, nate which you got.

1023
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 4: Hey this guy right, here we don't know who he.

1024
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: Is he just showed Up.

1025
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: Newton, Jim Jeff coat and this guy who showed.

1026
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: UP i love.

1027
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: It thank you so much for joining. Us we'll talk

1028
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: to you again next week on THE.

1029
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1030
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,600
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