WEBVTT - The Plot Against Trump with Kash Patel

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<v Speaker 1>So as we see the January six circus unfold and

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<v Speaker 1>the media's attention to a Congress's attention to it wasting

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<v Speaker 1>your tax dollars, by the way, but as we see

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<v Speaker 1>the circus unfold, that keeps going through my mind is

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're putting all this attention on one day

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<v Speaker 1>when there's still questions about what the FBI's involvement wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>it Anyways, So as we put all this attention on

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<v Speaker 1>one day, what about for four years when the deep state,

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<v Speaker 1>in the administrative state, essentially attempted a coup against Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>when we had our own government trying to go against

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<v Speaker 1>a dually elected president, of trying to essentially bury a

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<v Speaker 1>dually elected president. We think about how many calls with

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<v Speaker 1>foreign leaders were leaked, one of them with Ukraine, with

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<v Speaker 1>President's Lensky was the basis of an impeachment against President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we see those same calls leaked with Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>All you have to do is listened to him speak

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<v Speaker 1>for two seconds to realize the kind of crazy coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth, or we honestly to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>he is not saying all sorts of crazy things. The

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<v Speaker 1>foreign leaders that's if his handlers even let him on

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls with foreign leaders. But it's all such bogus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the double standard that we're also used to. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that someone like Peter Navarro was arrested for contempt

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress from January six committee, but Hillary Clinton's campaign

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer Michael Sussman was acquitted of lying to the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>So this double standard that we've all sadly gotten accustomed to,

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<v Speaker 1>but we should continue to fight. So that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do today. Right We're gonna revisit Russia Gate with

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<v Speaker 1>Cash Patel. You guys know him very well. He's out

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<v Speaker 1>with a new book called The Plot Against the King.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a children's book that really explains what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>the Russia Gate, also just talking about things like due

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<v Speaker 1>process and the importance of getting to the truth. Cash

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<v Speaker 1>was the former chief of staff to the Defense Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, Christopher Miller, who was the acting Defense Secretary.

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<v Speaker 1>He also previously worked as um the Deputy Assistant to

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<v Speaker 1>the President and Senior Director for counter Terrorism at the

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<v Speaker 1>National Security Council. In addition to that, he worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a national security advisor for the Senior Council for the

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<v Speaker 1>House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence looking at a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the Russia stuff. So this guy was part of

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<v Speaker 1>the inside. He saw the FBI, the d o J

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<v Speaker 1>up close. He knows what he's talking about. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna revisit Russia Gate, get into some of these double

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<v Speaker 1>standards if due process even exists in America right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also going to ask him, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's ever, ever, ever going to be any

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<v Speaker 1>accountability for these bad actors, any accountability from the Special

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<v Speaker 1>Council investigation John Durham's investigation. So that's what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into today. So stay tuned for my interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Cash Patela. That's the last time I saw you.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at an event, we got to sit next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. That was my first time meeting you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was awesome. I really enjoyed meeting you and

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<v Speaker 1>we had great conversation. So it's awesome to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Yeah, we can. Thanks so much. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a blast at the Independent Women's Forum Gallow with

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<v Speaker 1>you and so many others, and I'm so happy we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on your show, which is doing so amazing. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, and you've got a new book out

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get into as well. But you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking the other day about, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>this January six circus, it's getting so much attention, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I was thinking to myself, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we've got all this focus on January six, But for

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<v Speaker 1>four years, the deep state, the administrative state, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it, essentially attempted to coop against the

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<v Speaker 1>sitting president for four years. Is that not wild to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is it his hypocrisy or even the

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<v Speaker 1>right word. I mean, I don't even know that they

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<v Speaker 1>they the liberal left even know it means, look at

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who ran the Russia Gate investigation, shouldn't expose

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<v Speaker 1>the entire criminal conspiracy that the Hillary Clinton campaign paid

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<v Speaker 1>for the dossier? And now the Alpha Bank thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>leads to John Durham, which just shows you the heights

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<v Speaker 1>or the depths, I guess, of their their hypocrisy. And

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<v Speaker 1>now they're the ones when you fast forward to January six,

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<v Speaker 1>who are saying President Trump, you know, it's attempting a

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<v Speaker 1>coup of the democracy. And you know, at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was chief of staff of the Department of Defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I've been saying just this week that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand where this language from the January six

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<v Speaker 1>Committee about a coup comes from, because the chain of

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<v Speaker 1>command at the White House ordered the Department of Defense

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<v Speaker 1>to transition the presidency to the incoming Biden administration. So

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<v Speaker 1>those two facts don't sit well together, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to cover the fact that the White House ordered

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<v Speaker 1>us to transition and so there would be no coup. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also, you know, you look at a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff that happened with the incoming administration. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to derail a president who just got

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<v Speaker 1>elected with President Trump as he was transitioning to the

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<v Speaker 1>White House. So I mean, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you had, like the Obama administration using the FBI to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate an incoming president of the you know, opposing political party.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just insane. I mean, there's never any accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>The media has never given it justice and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention and let us know what really happened. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody was there what really happened? Yeah? Wow, RUSTI

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<v Speaker 1>Gate lived it, breathed it, still doing it. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hired by Devin Unez, the Chairman of House

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<v Speaker 1>until to run the Russia Gate investigation. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think either of us at the time knew would be

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<v Speaker 1>the depravity of the criminality would be so far reaching.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we kept the same concept of we

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<v Speaker 1>owe the American people the facts and the truth, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where it leads us. And then because the facts

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<v Speaker 1>and the truth led us to proving that the Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton campaign illegally used campaign funds to spend tens of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars through a law firm to hire the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Usan Gps and Christopher Steele, and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about tech executive Joffey. They ran two lines of effort.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran the Steel dossier and Track one, and a

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<v Speaker 1>parallel effort will call it the Alpha Bank Server line

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<v Speaker 1>of effort on Track two, all of which was funded

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<v Speaker 1>entirely by the Clinton campaign. And what they did was

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<v Speaker 1>they've got false information statting to the FBI. The FBI

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was false, and on Track one, they utilized

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<v Speaker 1>that information to unlawfully surveil and lie to a federal

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<v Speaker 1>court to unlawfully surveil a presidential candidate in this campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as a former federal prosecutor who used the fies,

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<v Speaker 1>the process the target terrorists, I was just stunned that

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<v Speaker 1>this was this could occur in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>But if, as if that wasn't enough, on a parallel track,

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<v Speaker 1>they paid this tech executive, Rodney Joffey Um to burrow

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<v Speaker 1>into the White House servers. I mean, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff up, and to report out that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and his building in New York City were somehow connect

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<v Speaker 1>that to Russia when they weren't, and the FBI knew

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<v Speaker 1>all of the information they received was from the Clinton campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>They hid that they also knew the information was totally false.

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<v Speaker 1>And what you have is people's lives being ruined and

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<v Speaker 1>the likes of Adam Shift coming in this disinforming America

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<v Speaker 1>in the world for four years. It's really tragic when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, and you hit it right on

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<v Speaker 1>the head. Americans want accountability and they're just haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>much um, which is why I hope, you know, John

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<v Speaker 1>Durham comes up with a little more of this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's really frustrating, to your point, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>knew this information was false. I mean they knew this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the CIA. According to Michael Horrotz, the Independent

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<v Speaker 1>Inspector General the d o J and his investigation of

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<v Speaker 1>all this, if the CIA chalked it up to an

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<v Speaker 1>Internet rumor, right, it was known that Carter Page was

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<v Speaker 1>working on behalf of the United States government, not against it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like they knew who This was a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the most disgusting part of it

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<v Speaker 1>and the most chilling part of it for so many

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<v Speaker 1>Americas as we're sitting here saying we can't trust the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>right like they actively worked against a Republican president, they

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<v Speaker 1>actively worked against the American people and our wishes. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right. And you know me as a former

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<v Speaker 1>intel guy, you know who's did on tours in the civilian,

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<v Speaker 1>in the military, and intel community. It was shocking to

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<v Speaker 1>learn that John Brennan, then the head of the Central

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence Agency, would go to the President of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States Obama in December of sixteen and report this information

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<v Speaker 1>to Obama. And all we have are some scribbled notes

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<v Speaker 1>about what John Brennan said, but he from those notes

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to glean that he informed Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting president that Hillary Clinton, a campaign for president, was

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<v Speaker 1>orchestrating a plan to take down Donald Trump. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know where that where's that memo that John

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<v Speaker 1>Brennan gave and briefed Barack Obama to back then? And

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<v Speaker 1>if it got to the President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>why wasn't their actual action taken rather than they what

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<v Speaker 1>they did was they continued to surveil Donald Trump after

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<v Speaker 1>he got into the White House, and they did it

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<v Speaker 1>on the information, as you said, which they knew to

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<v Speaker 1>be totally false. Um, it's just outrageous. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now the media is like blown past their lives for

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<v Speaker 1>four years by saying, oh, whatever, you know that happened

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<v Speaker 1>so long ago, let's just focus on January six. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost as if they none of them want to correct

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<v Speaker 1>the record. And Adam Ship is still talking about Russia

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<v Speaker 1>Gate as if it happened yesterday, and if as if

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<v Speaker 1>if Donald Trump is still an agent of Russia, and

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to keep going and we're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>out as much information as we can. Um, the show

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<v Speaker 1>that's completely false. Well, and I think to me, what

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<v Speaker 1>really just highlighted what a scam it all was. And

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, this just like has always come to

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, is that meeting. I believe it was January six,

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<v Speaker 1>when before President Trump was inaugurated and the FBI director

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<v Speaker 1>James Coby had briefed Trump in Trump Tower, but only

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<v Speaker 1>only on the SILESIAUS details of the dossier, and then

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<v Speaker 1>somehow it ended up leaking to the media this meet

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<v Speaker 1>in between James Comey and Trump, which then gave the

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<v Speaker 1>media the ability to go and publish the dossier because

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't publish it previously because of course it was unproven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still unproven because it's not true. It's in fact

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<v Speaker 1>Russian disinformation. But so that gave the media the leeway

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<v Speaker 1>to then publish something that they couldn't substantiate. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it just shows you, you know, just the ties

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<v Speaker 1>between the way the media worked along with the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>along with the Clinton campaign to try to bury Donald Trump. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, the right. It showed you the how the hierarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>if the FBI could selectively politicize law enforcement and the

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence community against the political candidate. It's that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect in a banana republic, not in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. And we would go on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>In our investigation that this reverse, this briefing that James

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<v Speaker 1>Comey gave to then candidate Trump or then elected President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was only done as you said in part, but

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time, we proved that they were giving the

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton campaign full and complete reverse briefings, as we

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<v Speaker 1>call them, to keep her aprise of national security matters

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<v Speaker 1>that impacted her campaign. Why the two different levels of

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<v Speaker 1>comparison or to two different levels of standards in briefings

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<v Speaker 1>for issue to Clinton versus Donald Trump. And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the politics. Andy McCabe, the deputy director of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI, and James Comey orchestrated this entire enterprise lied

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people and the federal court system just

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<v Speaker 1>because of their hatred for Donald Trump. I mean, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you and I are having this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>in the US is just striking. And most people in

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<v Speaker 1>America four years later, unfortunately, just think, oh, what's Russia Gate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's thing where Donald Trump, you know, acted on

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of Russia. And that's totally not true. And we

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<v Speaker 1>put up all the information for free on places like

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<v Speaker 1>durhamwatch dot com. All the pleadings, all the transcripts. I

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<v Speaker 1>took sixty sworn testimony myself when I was doing the

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<v Speaker 1>Russia Gate investigation, because we want Americans to go there

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<v Speaker 1>and read the black and mites for themselves, read with

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<v Speaker 1>Podesta and Luke and Sullivan, infusion, GPS in the cave,

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<v Speaker 1>and Combe and Struck and all these corrupt actors said

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<v Speaker 1>under oath, because that's the best way to educate people

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<v Speaker 1>on what happened, not giving him a summary, but giving

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<v Speaker 1>him the opportunity to read it for themselves. Well. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's also I mean, you look at how much these

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<v Speaker 1>people hated Trump, right like if Robert Mueller could actually

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<v Speaker 1>have if he actually was able to find any anything,

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<v Speaker 1>any semblance of a tie between do not think he

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<v Speaker 1>even tried to bury him at the end by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hanging over this, uh you know, the obstruction

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<v Speaker 1>but not really good you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to leave that carrot carrot out there for

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<v Speaker 1>for the So if he had something like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, that would have been the base, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, they would have gone for that so

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<v Speaker 1>hard after all the crap they put Trump through and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have anything and so it's like that that

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<v Speaker 1>right there shows you they didn't have anything, and so

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<v Speaker 1>many people in the media have missed that point. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad you you put that on. You know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>there that you lead with your best facts. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are a special counsel, and you know the January six Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll talk about it. They're doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They put on this Hollywood blitz like Mueller tried to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they actually had incriminating evidence evidence said Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trumper's campaign committed a crime or did something unlawful or unethical,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have led with it. The fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't lead with it tells you they didn't have anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Muller didn't find any information to substantiate a claim. And

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<v Speaker 1>as my friend John Durham excuse me, John Ratcliffe, the

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<v Speaker 1>former d n I said so beautifully back then when

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<v Speaker 1>he was questioning Mueller under oath, was you have now

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<v Speaker 1>created a new standard for lawyers at the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're asking them to to not prove a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>but to prove someone didn't do something, which has never

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<v Speaker 1>been a standard in the United States of America. But

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Muller attributed that standard to Donald Trump, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love that the Left sinks that that's actually an actual

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<v Speaker 1>legal standard and has completely disbanded with due process. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's or their their version of selective due process.

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<v Speaker 1>They only like to apply it when the targets are

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<v Speaker 1>their political enemies, like the FBI did. But you're absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>right they would have led with it. They didn't because

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't any information to support their claims. And again

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<v Speaker 1>just on like a very base level. What's always blown

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<v Speaker 1>my mind as we spent all this tax paramony, all

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<v Speaker 1>these resources of the FBI and then a special council

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<v Speaker 1>to look at you know, quote unquote Russian interference, when

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<v Speaker 1>in fact it was the Hillary Clinton campaign and our

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<v Speaker 1>own government that we're pushing Russian disinformation in the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the dossier. So it's like, I think that just

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<v Speaker 1>blows my mind, as you know, we spent all this money,

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<v Speaker 1>all this intention, or all this attention when in fact

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<v Speaker 1>it was like our own government in the Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>campaign embracing Russian disafformation. Yeah, and what I tell people is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go back and read the nunest memo that

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<v Speaker 1>I drafted, you know, some four years ago and see

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<v Speaker 1>if it's switched to the test of time, because what

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<v Speaker 1>we put in the Nunest memo were hard facts obtained

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<v Speaker 1>by the FBI's own documents and by their own foreign

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<v Speaker 1>testimony about the activities of Bruce or being a cutout

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Or being a top level prosecutor at the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice, and the FBI using him as a source

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<v Speaker 1>to get to Christopher Steele when Christoper Steel was fired

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<v Speaker 1>for lying to the FBI um and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know where they lied to the Federal Court UH

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<v Speaker 1>to get a surveillance warrant on Donald Trump, but they

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<v Speaker 1>withheld information including evidence of innocence, basically evidence showing that

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<v Speaker 1>the target of the warrant was actually innocent of the

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<v Speaker 1>crime that they were alleging in that warrant application. And

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<v Speaker 1>to me, as a former and after security prosecutor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>acts like this aren't actually seditious acts. You're you're intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>utilizing government falsely to take out members of government or

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<v Speaker 1>members who were elected to serve in government. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just outrageous that most of America has

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<v Speaker 1>been led so far down a path of misinformation by

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<v Speaker 1>the likes of Adam shift that you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Devin and I and you know even President Trump are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to stop trying to get out there and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure people have access to the real information. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very thankful you're still talking about it today. Quick

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<v Speaker 1>commercial break back on the other side with cash Ptel.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did the investigation into the Trump campaign open?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the the FBI. I know that you've referenced in

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<v Speaker 1>your book The Plot Against the King, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>children's book that is out now officially, I think right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's out now officially. Yeah, it's out now officially, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you reference that it started with the dossier,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI claims and the media claims it started. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the counterintelligence investigation started based off of what George Papadopoulos

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<v Speaker 1>told Alexander Downer. Everyone knows, the Australian diplomat. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>When when what does the timeline look like? When when

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<v Speaker 1>did the investigation actually begin? You know, I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing that up because the fact that I put that

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<v Speaker 1>in my children's book and the fact that the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times, I think in like three other entities have

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<v Speaker 1>done hit pieces on on me and it based on that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Russia Gate is based on the Steel dossier,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christopher Steele started putting that dossier together in the

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<v Speaker 1>spring of It doesn't be the FBI pretended and used

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<v Speaker 1>as a pretext the meeting with Alexander Downer in the

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<v Speaker 1>bar room chit chat to quote unquote launched their investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that's when the investigation started. That just

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<v Speaker 1>means when the FBI put it to paper. But a

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<v Speaker 1>source for the FBI, Christopher Steele began working on his

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<v Speaker 1>dossier in at least the spring of sixteen, if not earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I put it in the children's book. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the single piece of information that kicked off the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI's you know, quote unquote interest in the Donald Trump campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>So I stand by that. I think it's which the

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<v Speaker 1>test of time, and the fact that the fake news

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<v Speaker 1>media is attacking a children's book on Russia Gate, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is just hilarious to me. Well, and it sort

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<v Speaker 1>of defies reason that Christopher Steele has not seeved more scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the man does not have credibility. He also

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<v Speaker 1>had a clear animus against President or than you know,

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<v Speaker 1>candidate Trump, as well, So it sort of defies logic

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<v Speaker 1>that he hasn't received more scrutiny. You know, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get into just the the double standard innerjustice system.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, We've obviously touched on it, you know, quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit here, but I mean, you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the January six Committee is using contempt of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress charges to arrest people like Peter Navarro. Yet yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you see Hillary Clinton's campaign lawyer Michael Sussman acquitted of

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<v Speaker 1>lying to the FBI. We saw the same thing with

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI's treatment of the Hillary Clinton campaign and the

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<v Speaker 1>emails or Hillary Clinton in the email server with giving

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Cheryl Mills and Humba Abadan things like immunity

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<v Speaker 1>while sticking it to Michael Flynn, Peter Struck interviewed all

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<v Speaker 1>of them in different outcomes, right, So so you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's just yeah, I guess just you get into that

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<v Speaker 1>for for the audience, just this gross double standard heard

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<v Speaker 1>and our justice system. You know, I guess you know

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<v Speaker 1>how entrenched is it? You're right, and look as it

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<v Speaker 1>infuriates me probably more than anything else because I was

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<v Speaker 1>a public defender first when my career started, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I became a federal prosecutor, tears and prosecutor. And I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think then that there could possibly be two standards,

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<v Speaker 1>but I now firmly believe that there are. And it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it shreds, you know, it shreds the constitution. Uh. You

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<v Speaker 1>highlighted probably the best examples of what this double standard is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the suspen jury. Real quick, they were they

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<v Speaker 1>were literally played the videotape of the bank robbery. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they acquitted this man because the jurors went out

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards and literally said this, this case was a total

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<v Speaker 1>waste that should never been brought, which means they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to acquit him no matter what because of their politics,

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<v Speaker 1>because the fact that four of the jurors were Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton donors and AOC donors, and so they violated their

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<v Speaker 1>oaths and and this case, you know, should This is

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you bring cases in d C. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's it doesn't stop there. You know, you brought up

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Steel. Christopher Steele wrote to the FBI when he

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<v Speaker 1>was creating his phony Dostier that he actually despised Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and he would do anything to get him to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent him from being elected. They failed to provide that

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<v Speaker 1>information that they knew to the federal court. And Steele

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<v Speaker 1>was the source of the entire Russia Gate hoax. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the type of information the FBI suppressed. And then, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so many other examples we could go down.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you mentioned, like how the FBI investigated the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Michael Flynn, they did the same thing to him.

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<v Speaker 1>There was actually evidence of innocence of Michael Flynn that

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI suppressed before, during, and after they brought charges

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<v Speaker 1>against Michael Flynn. When I was Deputy Director of National Intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>me and Rick Grannell actually declassified the information that the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI hid from the world, and we forced the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice to then acknowledge this information. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Flynn's case was ultimately thrown out. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't supposed to happen in America, where the FBI selectively

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<v Speaker 1>sits on um information that favors a charge, clients or

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<v Speaker 1>a defendant. Um a completely shredding due process knowingly does

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<v Speaker 1>it not by accident. They knew about it, they collected it,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew it to be false. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>jam six Commission is just an extension of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>can speak to that personally as the first person who

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<v Speaker 1>is subpoena by the January six commission. Cost me two

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<v Speaker 1>d thousand dollars in lawyer fees to adjudicate the subpoena,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I went before them, I said, why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you guys just call me? I've got nothing behind the

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<v Speaker 1>chief of staff of d O D. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly what we did. I can tell you exactly

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<v Speaker 1>when Donald Trump authorized National Guard troops forty eight hours before,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that Nancy Pelosi is a Capitol police

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<v Speaker 1>and Mayor Bowser declined that National Guard service. But they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear any of that. They wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>politicize the national security apparatus. And I have to find

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<v Speaker 1>out about my subpoena from a late night phone call

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<v Speaker 1>from the Washington Post. You can believe it, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe it. Sadly, I wish I couldn't, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the world that we live in. I also, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like to apply a common sense standard to everything

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<v Speaker 1>in life. It's like they're trying to tell us the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI had no involvement in January six. However, even liberal

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<v Speaker 1>outlets like The Daily Beast reported that I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was more than half of the people involved, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchman Gretchan whitmore a plot, were you know, agents of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI or FBI informants or whatever. But then we're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to believe that January six couldn't be the same,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, we're we're told that, you know, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Struck and Lisa Page texting about how they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop Trump. They hate him. He's like basically Satan Hitler

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<v Speaker 1>all the you know. I mean, they didn't say that specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, they might as well write that somehow

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to taint their objectivity in looking at that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like it's like we're not idiots, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just all you have to do is apply the

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<v Speaker 1>common sense standard to most things in life, and common

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<v Speaker 1>sense typically prevails not for society, but if you actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, want to find the truth, it's typically just

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<v Speaker 1>what appears to be common sense. No, you're absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the common sense standard is what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to tell jurors. That's what we told them when we

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<v Speaker 1>were when I was trying cases before before juries and

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<v Speaker 1>state in federal court. And the truth is, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, what you know, those who in government.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I served for sixteen years, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the mission and it just got torn to shred intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>by government agents. I mean, that's what led me to

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<v Speaker 1>write a children's book on Russia Gate. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>plot against the king isn't a political story. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>you should be a conservative or liberal or democratic Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>Those words don't even appear in the pages. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the biggest criminal scandal to occur to American modern

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<v Speaker 1>history should that truth should be told to our children.

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<v Speaker 1>So we said it in medieval times with the characters

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<v Speaker 1>like Hillary Clinton and a shifty Night and a duke

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<v Speaker 1>named Devon. You know, we had fun with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>we told them the importance of doing finding the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>going on a quest for the truth. And the illustrations

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<v Speaker 1>are hilarious and they're fun, and the fact that Google

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<v Speaker 1>and Amazon just shut the book down is is laughable.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that the Humpington's Post is do hit pieces

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<v Speaker 1>on me because I wrote a children's book about Russia

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<v Speaker 1>Gate just means to me, what the same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>was five years ago we're so over the target. They

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<v Speaker 1>hate the fact that we discovered the truth and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're triggered that we're educating the truths to our kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and and selfishly, if I can say,

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<v Speaker 1>the Plot against the King dot Com is where you

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<v Speaker 1>get the book. But it's the number one kid's book

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. And and I'm gonna keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have two more books now coming. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been so popular about telling the truth to our kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. And and also just do process right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm due process is something that separates the United States

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<v Speaker 1>from other countries. And I guess my broader concern and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is we've just seen the breakdown and institutions,

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<v Speaker 1>trust institutions. We've seen the breakdown of due process, the

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<v Speaker 1>rule of law in America. And when you lose these

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<v Speaker 1>things that make America America like, we really just end

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<v Speaker 1>up descending into chaos. And then we descend into these

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<v Speaker 1>situations where you've got people in the January six Committee

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<v Speaker 1>not allowing for due process and to destroying lives just

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<v Speaker 1>based off of their political beliefs. The following is not

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<v Speaker 1>something I've ever discussed on on any interview I was

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<v Speaker 1>a public defender for eight years, and you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I got there, I just went there because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>everybody deserved, as you said, due process and all the

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<v Speaker 1>rights in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not selectively,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody. And you know, the public defender community is

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<v Speaker 1>largely a liberal community, and when I went there, I

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<v Speaker 1>was shocked to learn from my liberal colleagues that they

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<v Speaker 1>would say, oh, I'm only going to do this case

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<v Speaker 1>or take that case. The same group of people that

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<v Speaker 1>selectively applied due process but talked about in the media

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<v Speaker 1>as if they were the exclusive you know, warriors of

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<v Speaker 1>due process stopped talking to me when Donald Trump got

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<v Speaker 1>elected and I ran the rush of Gate investigation. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just shocked to learn that they could actually selectively

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<v Speaker 1>apply due process to their targets that they wanted and

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<v Speaker 1>then only allowed you process for their clients that they

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<v Speaker 1>thought had the right to it. I didn't know due

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<v Speaker 1>process was something that was hijacked by the liberal left.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was just extraordinary to me to learn

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<v Speaker 1>that lesson and those people haven't called me in eight years, um,

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<v Speaker 1>which just shows you how divided and how how how

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<v Speaker 1>how hypocritical. Um. Folks in government can be and it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was one of the most stinging lessons

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned. But do process, as you said, it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the bedrock of our society. It's why it

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<v Speaker 1>was a public defender and a prosecutor, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few people to ever do that. And um, it's selective

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<v Speaker 1>application in January six just is an extension of their hypocrisy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're throwing out not just subpoenas, but they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting out subpoenas but criminal indictments because they want

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<v Speaker 1>this narrative to carry on that Donald Trump tried to

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote hijack the election or do a coup or

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<v Speaker 1>all this false information. And now the committee itself is on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they took a day long pause because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much in fighting they can't get their stories straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that this is what happens when you lead with

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<v Speaker 1>politics and not the facts. So I think this Commission's

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<v Speaker 1>days are are numbered, and America's at least most of

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<v Speaker 1>America is hip to the fact that they're putting out disinformation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know now they're going after Jenny Thomas Clarence.

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Clarence Thomas is. I mean, they're just using it

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to hit people that they don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean Trump was right when he said everything

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<v Speaker 1>turns to ship because they've ruined everything right that, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, like the f the left is ruined, the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>the left is ruined, the d o J the left

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<v Speaker 1>is room to the NFL, the left is ruined. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they left is ruined, the even tainting the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 1>which with the leak of the reverse way to pit right,

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<v Speaker 1>like they've literally ruined everything in America, and like all

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<v Speaker 1>of our issues really stem from them. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>we both got some time constraints, so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, do you think there's ever going to be

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<v Speaker 1>any accountability from this with the Special Counsel John Durham's investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Been one of the few proponents of John Durham since

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, because I know how long it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>put together these types of prosecutions. It takes years and years,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's on year two to an alf and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a team of like five folks. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I say it is because and for those in your

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<v Speaker 1>audience who want to dive into the details, go to

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<v Speaker 1>durham Watch dot com totally free, where we constantly put

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<v Speaker 1>up all the information, all the pleadings. But he leveled.

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<v Speaker 1>He laid out a joint venture conspiracy and as you know, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a legal term. Um during the Sussmen prosecution, where

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<v Speaker 1>he told the federal court under oath, i'm I have

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<v Speaker 1>many more targets to this investigation. This is just one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. The targets include the Fusion GPS is of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. They include tech executive Rodney Joffe, where John

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<v Speaker 1>Durham explicitly said the man continues to be a target.

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<v Speaker 1>They include Fusion GPS who will perpetuate this fraud, Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson and Company. And it includes FBI agents who admitted

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<v Speaker 1>during the Sussman case on the witness stand that they

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<v Speaker 1>are targets of a federal investigation for lying while overseeing

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<v Speaker 1>the Russia Gate hopes. So all of this information leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to believe that John Durham is building a criminal

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy case um that takes time. I think he utilized

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<v Speaker 1>the Suspen trial knowing it was going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>d C and knowing it's gonna likely be very tough

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<v Speaker 1>to get a connection. But look at all the information

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<v Speaker 1>he's put out there, everything I just talked to you about,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the targets he has publicly said our targets

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<v Speaker 1>of his investigation. So I think this summer you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a couple of more indictments against the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>and the likes of Fusion GPS, and you know, encourage

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<v Speaker 1>people to go to durhmawatch dot com and read all

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the transcripts and testimony for yourselves that we did during

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<v Speaker 1>our Russia Gate investigation, which John Durham is now using

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<v Speaker 1>those documents in his prosecution of the people um who

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<v Speaker 1>perpetuated this fraud. I don't think it'll go to Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>James Comey, that'll that'll be in the Durham report at

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<v Speaker 1>the very end. But I think we will have some

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<v Speaker 1>form of meaningful accountability by the time we u we

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<v Speaker 1>see this year come to a close. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible to get justice in the swamp. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I made a big point in on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on after the last verdict, that these cases need to

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<v Speaker 1>be brought outside of the swamp, and at least the

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<v Speaker 1>den Shanko case, the one sets for trial in the

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<v Speaker 1>fall Dan chanco is Christopher Steel. Source that John Durham

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<v Speaker 1>is indicted is in Virginia. Um, you know John Durham,

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<v Speaker 1>I've publicly advised him. I don't know. I haven't talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him personally. But these cases can be brought elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the country because they can find jurisdiction elsewhere. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be brought in and around d C.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what John durhams one flaw as these

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<v Speaker 1>two by the book in the Department of Justice guidelines

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<v Speaker 1>recommend to you where you can bring cases and and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he should start bringing them elsewhere so

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<v Speaker 1>he can show America that, you know, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>more of this two standard tier of justice. Um, they've

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen what the swamp produces and that's why they

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they can't stand it. So hopefully bring some

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<v Speaker 1>of these cases in the future away from Washington. Yeah. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully the assessment verdict has opened his eyes to up

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<v Speaker 1>against Cash. But tell I appreciate your time. The plot

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<v Speaker 1>against the King it is out, now go get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the left wing meet it hates it, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that Cash is doing something right. So I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to talk to you, and uh, you know, good

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<v Speaker 1>luck with the book and congrats on the success so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, we'll talk to you and have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>That was cast until really enjoyed the interview with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's seen it from the inside, so he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what's up. So and I think it's good to revisit

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<v Speaker 1>this right Like, if the media doesn't want us to

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, then we should talk about it. So

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